Episode 279: Modesty
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- Опубликовано: 15 ноя 2024
- Modesty is maybe a word you’ve heard in Christian circles, but what does it even mean? Is “modesty” an out of date idea, or does it matter for our life today? Before you think about what to wear, watch this episode!
Kathy’s trying to be real and Nate can’t seem to stay serious. Kathy was making a great point and got visibility frustrated with Nate when he can’t make it through a mature conversation. You can’t expect to have a real conversation about a mature topic without being direct.
Thank you Kathy for this!!!!
Could you address when people both inside and outside the church sham and ostracize someone (teen girl then eventually young woman) for choosing to dress modestly. As well as regarding waiting for marriage.
Such happened to me in my teens and twenties and I received much disrespect for those two things that I prioritized(and still do) because of my relationship with God. Thanks!
Love this! Also speaking of clothing, I’d love to know where Cathy got those jeans! Stylish and modest which is hard to find. Let me know!!
Finding affordable, comfortable, AND modest swimsuits is becoming increasingly hard. Even just finding a “normal” coverage swimsuit requires a search. And as a younger person, this is starting to apply to clothing as well.
Also I completely agree with Kathy about the taller guy thing. I don’t know if it has biological or societal origins but being with or around a taller guy does feel more “secure”. The only other way I can describe it is that I feel more “lady-like” when I’m smaller.
Lime Ricki has cuuuute modest swimsuits!!! :)
5 mins in and here to confirm: Kathy is right
Cathy, clarify on 27:10.
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So, are you more modest if you wear more? Is that what makes you more modest? I feel like that's how you're judging what's modest. I don't think that's a good way to judge modesty. And why does more clothing make a person holy or holier? The Pharisees broadened the boarders of their garments and Jesus said they were hypocrites. That's not what makes a Christian holy, it's only Jesus's righteousness. Like why can't people look good? I don't even like limiting liberty because then you start judging people who are exercising their liberty. The Bible says "Do not let your adornment be merely outward-arranging the hair, wearing gold, or putting on fine apparel". But you said your beauty should not come from the outward. That's very different than to not only to be beautiful outwardly but let it also be inwardly.
I don't think you should eat pizza or drink soda or wear pants, because the world does those things. You said to not dress worldly, but yet you pick and choose and make up your own judgement of who is dressing worldly and yourself of course is not worldly. Yet I could find Christian's who would judge you all as very immodest people based on your coverage.
I don't get how you define modesty when it's only just a bit more covered than others in society wear. That's not modesty. People stick out in their "modest clothes", and that's not modesty. People feel "modest" by being more covered than others; that's not modest either. To achieve modesty by a covering elevates one's own accomplishment resulting a bit of pride. Humiliate yourself, and you'll find more humility. Jesus wore only a towel and washed His disciples feet, and I bet that felt uncomfortable, but what humility to dress like a servant in front of them. Some "modest" people I think would benefit from wearing a little bikini just to get their eyes off judging people (including themselves), but what people wear. The bible says If you walk in the spirit, you can not fulfill the lust of the flesh. You can't do it, so this whole thing of it'll make my brother stumble is irrelevant. Anyone who lusts to rape needs to really repent. Seeing privates is against God's law, and our law; repent. But don't make the thighs nakedness and feel all condemned for seeing someone in their underlayer of clothes. We're a temple, and Ezekiel's temple had three areas; outer court, inner court, and holiest of holies. The public were in the outer court, but the inner court of protection could still be seen from the outer court. However, the holiest of holies was intimate, whoever saw into it was to die. Same for anyone who saw someone's nakedness' was to die. This is a good type and shadow that shows that we do have an inner and outer layer that can be seen, but what's under it all can not be seen except for one and only one. I just wish people would judge modesty differently than an external appearance.
"Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment." John 7:24 Yet this whole modesty video is making people judge, even themselves, by their external appearance. That's not good.
Why can't we fit in to the society that we're in, and dress relatable to whom we're with, and dress as beautiful as we can, and have a heart that's as beautiful as can be? I did agree with one point. Love should motivate what you wear. Just my two cents coming from an "extremely modest person" who swam in pants and a shirt.