Hurricane Milton came through last night and took out 4 panels last night. I paid a lot of money to do two sides of my yard. I looked up how to put it together found your video and did it myself with two of my neighbors. The poles are cemented in. I cannot believe how easy it was. I should have done this from the beginning. I spent a lot of money to have it installed. It looks almost the same. Thank-you for the info. I’m glad I was able to do it myself with the help of your video thank- you again.
You also can mix the concrete to a soupy mixture pour it in the hole first, then work the post in, that way you have concrete inside your vinyl post to hold it down better.
The U channels that go against the post should be screwed into the fence posts. If they are not screwed into the fence post, they are useless. They're called expanders, when the vinyl expands and contracts due to the weather, the U-channel will hide the gap between the last fence picket and the post.
@@LaceyFamilyFarm,Most professional installers do it the way you showed, because no one explains how it should be installed. Your fence looks great by the way!
I installed Country Estate Fence for years and this was the most popular style. Theirs was called the "Lakeland." I know this brand's instructions are like the video, but . . . 1. There's an easier way to install those bottom rails. Set all your posts first in concrete using a spacer between each one at the distance set by the factory. The panel width is this distance or it is typically 96" center to center of post. Then, put the bottom rail in the EMPTY post first and snap back into the previous post that has a rail in it. No need to tilt the post. 2. DO NOT "engage the clips" with the posts. Vinyl will shrink and expand based on the outside temperature. When the vinyl contracts in the cold, it will pull those tabs out of the post. Those bottom rails need to "float" in the posts, not be captured. Also, in a heavy wind, when the fence flexes, the clips will pull out if they are tight. 3. Install the panels after all the posts are in. Put the tongue and groove planks all in, then snap the top rail down on them. Slide one end of the top rail into the EMPTY post, and back into the post with a rail already in it.
Hi, I'm just starting my investigation in how to do this. What do you mean by "spacer"? Probably a dumb question but like I said I'm pretty green. Thanks
Hi Jimmy. A spacer is just a piece of scrap wood/ plastic whatever-which is cut at a length that allows you to do repeated measurements. By using the same length of wood to mark out where you want to dig the holes you will be able to dig the holes for your posts in the exact position needed every time. When you come to concrete the posts in the panels will fit perfectly@@JimmyPetty-ez6em
Just spent an hour failing to put my first panel up following the instructions. Put the bottom rail in, then each board, then I could not in any way get the top rail in. Thanks for this, this approach seems much better.
Great video and much appreciated! I am going to assemble the same fence at my house. I will take a before and after picture and post it when I get started and finish!
Thanks for the helpful video. One thing that should make it easier is to just put the top rail on after installing all the vertical slats. There's no real reason to put the top rail on first and then fight it with the last few slats.
We are just trying to get 126 ft installed (by someone who knows what they are doing) and I saw how long your fencing was. DUDE!!! I can’t even imagine. We are doing good installing the goat wire with wood on the back. Lol You have it going on there!
rent a little beaver, if the ground's rough which is rarely is nice you will have much better experience. those auger's are really just made for ice fishing. you can use the rail as a guide to measure the next post location, just easier then using a tape. You can set all your posts and then fabricate it, the rails have enough room to slide in. I would recommend fabricating the line and adjust the height with a sledge hammer, if your too low pull the post up and pack it to reset it. I would recommend getting a buddy to help out, it makes this whole process a lot easier. depending on the material you get some will come with holes, try to fill the hole with concrete, this prevents the post from seperating from the post but this is usually mostly important in colder climates. Also if you live in a colder climate and you don't want the posts to heave over time I would highly recommend belling out your hole, basically making the bottom of the hole wider then the top.
Top rail can hang with no pickets. I've done hundreds of fences post panel with rail hanging with out breaking. I have broken top corner of post hitting with sledge. I fixed that by using oscillator until post cap covered chunk missing. Also wet setting is the best method. Dry set works too just don't do it before a big storm. Dig holes bigger than this for a much easier time.
Great video! Quick question… Do you need to let the concrete “set” and do one panel at a time before you install the next panel… or is it okay to do multiple panels at one time and pour the concrete for all the posts last???
We have a vinyl fence and one of the corner post has heaved up from the ground. Many years ago it did this and I called the installer and he came out (when I wasn’t home) and did what he had to do to get it level again. He has since sold the business and I don’t know what he did to lower it and I am wondering if there is a trick to do so? We are in the Midwest and the frost can do this sometimes. Thank you!
How has it stood up to the wind? I’ve read it doesn’t need wood post inserts but i want to put them in anyways. Have you had any issues with the wind wiping any pieces out?
Great video. This is exactly what I needed. I live in the high desert too, up near the San Gabriel foothills and I wanted to know how these are holding up with our infamous winds? We have very strong south flowing winds in the fall and spring. I was also thinking about planting Thuja Green giants along the fence line on drip irrigation as an alternative. Nice place you got there btw.
It’s not meant to be removable. It might do some damage if you do remove them, so they are replaceable if you pull them off, but they will probably get damaged when you pull them off. I hope that answers the question that they are not removable.
So these do not have to have a 4 x 4 wooden post inside of them? I wouldn’t think they would be sturdy enough with just the vinyl since most white post are just sleeves or at least the ones I’ve worked with in the past
I have a video coming out next weekend detailing it, but the quick and dirty is we had about 450 feet of fencing with 3 gates and with tax it was about 11,000$ in total. Check out the video coming up and I’m going to go through how I got that number and how you can accurately guess the cost for you.
Thank You for your guidance. Due to vandalisim I have to replace vinyl fence. How do I insert new panel ( 3 section together in each panel) without damaging?
Sorry, I just saw your message for some reason. Your only option is probably going to be following the instructions in my video on replacing a post, and then when you have the post out you can replace the fencing panels.
No need to also have a wood 4x4 inside the vinyl post for extra support? I’ve seen some people do & some people don’t add it. Just want to be sure my fence will be strong enough to withstand high winds.
Yea. You don’t need it. You only need reinforcement in the posts holding up gates. And the 4x4 would interfere with the bottom and top rails. Trust me, we live in the high desert of California, it’s super windy here, and our fence is just the same when I put it in.
Around about how much did the fence cost you considering the size of your back yard? My backyard is almost the same size and I’m wanting to put a fence like this one around it.
I have a video coming out next weekend detailing it, but the quick and dirty is we had about 450 feet of fencing with 3 gates and with tax it was about 11,000$ in total. Check out the video coming up and I’m going to go through how I got that number and how you can accurately guess the cost for you.
What do you do if you notice on the level that the post isn’t leveled. Do you put something against it on the opposite side of the lean as the cement is drying?
Do you let the concrete setup before moving to the next section I would think starting another section would cause the prior post to move out of level. Why not just set all the post in concrete and level them then build after they dry. That’s how I saw a pro installer do it.
@@LaceyFamilyFarm I took it as....what a smart and much simpler way to install it like you did! Hands down the best way I've seen it done! I'm a female and am positive after watching this that I can tackle this myself! Thank you so much!
You have noted down all the materials in the video explanation, but the type of fence and where we can order it is missing. Your explanation makes the assembly very easy, but this video only covers shallow surfaces and not steep surfaces or uneven terrain.
I have a video coming out next weekend detailing it, but the quick and dirty is we had about 450 feet of fencing with 3 gates and with tax it was about 11,000$ in total. Check out the video coming up and I’m going to go through how I got that number and how you can accurately guess the cost for you.
Interested in the sequence. The manufacturer's instructions on my brand say to set both end posts in concrete first, then do all the mid posts with the bottom rails next (in half the bad of dry concrete. Then once you have all posts set in position wet the concrete. But this sequence looks a bit different. Any reason why you are doing them full-blown sequentially like this?
You could theoretically do that, I didn’t for a few reasons though. First one was I was only doing one or two sections at a time after I got home from work. And second it was just easier to make sure they stayed straight and level by only having to focus on one or two posts at a time. I feel like it would be hard to make sure they’re all straight and level after you have wet concrete on multiple of them.
@@LaceyFamilyFarm I'm a fence contractor, we only do wet concrete with no bracing. it holds up extremely well typically and you can always adjust it when you do your top line even if a post is out of line. typically you fudge it and bring the top in line with the rest by pushing it either in or out. The main advantage to setting everything at once is most yards won't be level, or straight without making massive sacrifices in overall height so it's better to set them all and then figure out what your top line is going to be. Also even if your off say a 1/8th or so you won't ever see it tbh, unless it's like a 4 foot tall fence and you can actually look above it but still you can always go back and run a line at each end and line it up with the end posts. And side to side, referring to the panel side doesn't typically matter because the panel your building will usually straighten the pole out, but we don't usually build perfect panels because it's a bit more time consuming and doesn't really provide much benefit as far as looks because once you get around 8 feet you won't be able to tell if it's a few inches shorter.
Oh no! You won’t be able to get the bottom and top rail in if you put a post inside it. You can and should use a metal I beam that’s made for these on posts that have a gate attached. This allows for the bottom and top rails to stick into the post
@@LaceyFamilyFarm Thanks for the pricing, but where did you get them for this price? Big box stores i've seen have them for well over these prices. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
I still don't understand and I haven't seen anyone put steel rods or smaller steel tubes inside the tubes that are the struts of the fence and pour cement inside the tubes up to a height of 2' above ground level. so that it is a monolithic piece with more strength because the rains pass and the winds soften the pillars and then you have a fence that looks like a hammock moving from side to side. Sorry if my observation bothers anyone but it is my observation. and I hope this maybe helps you improve the installation🙏🏽
If I’m understanding correctly, you could do that, but it’s going to be hard to get the top rail on while keeping the middle panels snug against the post.
@@LaceyFamilyFarm yea, you understood my question correctly based off of you answer. I’m about to do my backyard. I’ve done a chain link fence before, not vinyl. Just doing my homework. It’s the leveling after all is installed that has me a little off.
@@joejones56 yea. Just make sure your post hole is big enough for a little movement. Then connect everything up, and make sure everything is tight. Then pour your dry fast setting concrete. Check level on the post. Wet your concrete and then check level again. Then after 20 minutes check level again.
That’s what I did for all my about 70 panels and it works out perfect. About the time I was done with the next panel I went back and checked level on the previous post before I poured concrete on the next one
@@LaceyFamilyFarm I appreciate the input. Would you recommend to stay away from the self expanding stuff in the bag? Have you seen it ? Also, should the post caps be sealed to keep water out of the posts? Or just a screw is ok.
You just cut the top and bottom rail shorter by the amount of vertical panels you are removing. Just keep in mind the rails won’t have the little notches to help keep them in anymore, so you might need a screw or some vinyl glue
I’m going to put together a video for this. But in the meantime I’ll just show you in a short video. Can you send me an email at laceyfamilyfarms@gmail.com ? I’ll respond back later today.
You can do that, but dont need to. As long as you cement each post, it will be secure. On high stress posts, like the ones connected to gates, you can purchase an I Beam to go inside it. the 4x4 could be problematic also, because the top and bottom rails need space inside the post when they go into their holes.
Hurricane Milton came through last night and took out 4 panels last night. I paid a lot of money to do two sides of my yard. I looked up how to put it together found your video and did it myself with two of my neighbors. The poles are cemented in. I cannot believe how easy it was. I should have done this from the beginning. I spent a lot of money to have it installed. It looks almost the same. Thank-you for the info. I’m glad I was able to do it myself with the help of your video thank- you again.
Not understanding the process for repairing panels in the middle of a fence run. Did u remove all the posts downstream of the damaged area?
I'm in the same boat. Going to do it myself
That would be my guess@@bluedrew
You also can mix the concrete to a soupy mixture pour it in the hole first, then work the post in, that way you have concrete inside your vinyl post to hold it down better.
This video took a lot of the doubt away I had about doing it myself. Thanks.
Good! I’m glad! Your welcome!
😂lol
how did it go?
@@neofoo Unable to get to it yet. A roof replacement wrecked my budget temporarily. Home ownership is such fun.
Top rail always goes on last…. No need to fight it.
Never heard of vinyl fencing. Thank you for sharing this information. Have a blessed weekend.
Your welcome! You have a good one as well!
The U channels that go against the post should be screwed into the fence posts. If they are not screwed into the fence post, they are useless. They're called expanders, when the vinyl expands and contracts due to the weather, the U-channel will hide the gap between the last fence picket and the post.
That’s a great point. I never thought of that honestly. Thank you! I appreciate it
@@LaceyFamilyFarm,Most professional installers do it the way you showed, because no one explains how it should be installed. Your fence looks great by the way!
They also hide the tongue side, giving the 'boards' a uniform appearance👍
Are you telling me that the fence will expand and contract 1/2 to 3/4 of an inch
Thank you
I installed Country Estate Fence for years and this was the most popular style. Theirs was called the "Lakeland." I know this brand's instructions are like the video, but . . . 1. There's an easier way to install those bottom rails. Set all your posts first in concrete using a spacer between each one at the distance set by the factory. The panel width is this distance or it is typically 96" center to center of post. Then, put the bottom rail in the EMPTY post first and snap back into the previous post that has a rail in it. No need to tilt the post. 2. DO NOT "engage the clips" with the posts. Vinyl will shrink and expand based on the outside temperature. When the vinyl contracts in the cold, it will pull those tabs out of the post. Those bottom rails need to "float" in the posts, not be captured. Also, in a heavy wind, when the fence flexes, the clips will pull out if they are tight. 3. Install the panels after all the posts are in. Put the tongue and groove planks all in, then snap the top rail down on them. Slide one end of the top rail into the EMPTY post, and back into the post with a rail already in it.
That’s a great idea! Thank you!
Can you like come and install mine
Hi, I'm just starting my investigation in how to do this. What do you mean by "spacer"? Probably a dumb question but like I said I'm pretty green. Thanks
Hi Jimmy. A spacer is just a piece of scrap wood/ plastic whatever-which is cut at a length that allows you to do repeated measurements. By using the same length of wood to mark out where you want to dig the holes you will be able to dig the holes for your posts in the exact position needed every time. When you come to concrete the posts in the panels will fit perfectly@@JimmyPetty-ez6em
Well, that just made it 7362728 times more confusing.
Just spent an hour failing to put my first panel up following the instructions. Put the bottom rail in, then each board, then I could not in any way get the top rail in. Thanks for this, this approach seems much better.
So glad it helped!!
Great video. I'm learning about replacing pvc fence posts that milton bent back.
Thank you! Glad I could help and hope you and your family were safe!
Great video and much appreciated! I am going to assemble the same fence at my house. I will take a before and after picture and post it when I get started and finish!
Absolutely great video. Thank you for sharing it. This definitely going to help me negotiate with my contract.
Of course! Glad I could help!
Thanks for the helpful video. One thing that should make it easier is to just put the top rail on after installing all the vertical slats. There's no real reason to put the top rail on first and then fight it with the last few slats.
We are just trying to get 126 ft installed (by someone who knows what they are doing) and I saw how long your fencing was. DUDE!!! I can’t even imagine. We are doing good installing the goat wire with wood on the back. Lol You have it going on there!
Haha. Thanks! Don’t get me wrong, it was a lot of work and done in stages. It took about a year for the whole fence.
Dang! Looks good, been thinking the past year of these and thankfully your video just sold me on it. Great installation instructions
Thanks!! I appreciate it! Let us know if you have any questions or issues
rent a little beaver, if the ground's rough which is rarely is nice you will have much better experience. those auger's are really just made for ice fishing. you can use the rail as a guide to measure the next post location, just easier then using a tape. You can set all your posts and then fabricate it, the rails have enough room to slide in. I would recommend fabricating the line and adjust the height with a sledge hammer, if your too low pull the post up and pack it to reset it. I would recommend getting a buddy to help out, it makes this whole process a lot easier. depending on the material you get some will come with holes, try to fill the hole with concrete, this prevents the post from seperating from the post but this is usually mostly important in colder climates. Also if you live in a colder climate and you don't want the posts to heave over time I would highly recommend belling out your hole, basically making the bottom of the hole wider then the top.
Good easy demonstration. Thnx
Your welcome! Glad I could help!
Top rail can hang with no pickets. I've done hundreds of fences post panel with rail hanging with out breaking. I have broken top corner of post hitting with sledge. I fixed that by using oscillator until post cap covered chunk missing. Also wet setting is the best method. Dry set works too just don't do it before a big storm. Dig holes bigger than this for a much easier time.
What if you need to shorten the length of the panel? Can you show that?
weird that you do the post concrete last, but actually looks pretty easy haha
It’s just so that it’s all put together and solid before being concreted.
Great video! Quick question…
Do you need to let the concrete “set” and do one panel at a time before you install the next panel… or is it okay to do multiple panels at one time and pour the concrete for all the posts last???
Install the bottom rail, insert the boards, then cap the top rail to finish the fence panel.
I have always added some screws hanging out a bit at the base of all post so the concrete has something grab on to
That’s a great idea! Thanks
Would you be able to link the exact vinyl fencing you used here or all of them standard like this?
Great video! Thank you so much!
Your welcome!
We have a vinyl fence and one of the corner post has heaved up from the ground. Many years ago it did this and I called the installer and he came out (when I wasn’t home) and did what he had to do to get it level again. He has since sold the business and I don’t know what he did to lower it and I am wondering if there is a trick to do so? We are in the Midwest and the frost can do this sometimes. Thank you!
I pour the concrete to make sure I’m even. The last one I keep warm to bend well. Guess I should start keeping the last topper unlocked
How has it stood up to the wind? I’ve read it doesn’t need wood post inserts but i want to put them in anyways. Have you had any issues with the wind wiping any pieces out?
Great video. This is exactly what I needed.
I live in the high desert too, up near the San Gabriel foothills and I wanted to know how these are holding up with our infamous winds? We have very strong south flowing winds in the fall and spring. I was also thinking about planting Thuja Green giants along the fence line on drip irrigation as an alternative.
Nice place you got there btw.
They are actually holding up great! I haven’t noticed a single issue. I did cement every single post just in case.
You made my day easy! Thank you!
So glad I could help! Let me know how your install went!
@@LaceyFamilyFarm perfect thanks to you!
If i got 100ft wall, how many panels should I put together and cement them at a time ?
Thanks for your video
Great video
Thanks! We appreciate it
Thank you this really help
I’m glad!
Thanks bro 👍🏽
How deep did you dig fot the gate post and fence posts?
Are the panels removable? I need access to a side for a preassembled storage shed
It’s not meant to be removable. It might do some damage if you do remove them, so they are replaceable if you pull them off, but they will probably get damaged when you pull them off. I hope that answers the question that they are not removable.
What brand of fence are you using?
So these do not have to have a 4 x 4 wooden post inside of them? I wouldn’t think they would be sturdy enough with just the vinyl since most white post are just sleeves or at least the ones I’ve worked with in the past
PLEASE walk me through these steps. I am trying to fence my yard. Veteran just trying to save some money by doing this myself 👍
I'm a newbie, so be gentle. If you have two people would it be easier to assemble the panels outside the holes and then set them in?
If you only had one panel, yes, but since the previous panel is in the ground already, then no.
Thanks for this, a company is quoting me $5k to do a fence, this looks like Legos! I’m sure going to do it myself!
The vinyl alone is 5k here. 😭
Nice job.. looks great.. question how much do you spend on this project?
I have a video coming out next weekend detailing it, but the quick and dirty is we had about 450 feet of fencing with 3 gates and with tax it was about 11,000$ in total. Check out the video coming up and I’m going to go through how I got that number and how you can accurately guess the cost for you.
Thank You for your guidance.
Due to vandalisim I have to replace vinyl fence. How do I insert new panel ( 3 section together in each panel) without damaging?
Sorry, I just saw your message for some reason. Your only option is probably going to be following the instructions in my video on replacing a post, and then when you have the post out you can replace the fencing panels.
Try cutting a vertical taper on both ends. Same method as sistering 2x12 floor joist . Just a thought. God bless
How big is your property, and how much material did you need?
do you use one whole bag of concrete per post,what is the distance between post ,is that standard
Thank you! Not so scary now!
Your welcome! Glad I could help!! Let me know if you need help or have more questions
Do you concrete each section at a time or all at once?
My question is if I need to get fence down to do felling a tree how can I pull apart a section to get vehicle in back yard ??
The first banana wind blows away the fence, I should put 3 to 4 bags of cement.
Thank you Lacey for the video, just wondering where did you purchase your vinyl fence?
Storm knocked out 3 panels and I can’t get them back in. Help!
How many bags of 50lb cement did you use per pole?
About 1/2 bag per post
What brand/what store was the fence purchased from?
Hi do you need to put steel in the bottom panel?
Nope. Just in the posts that will be used with gates. They don’t even make steel to go in the bottom panels.
Do you know how to stop water from getting in the bottom rail and draining into the posts?
Honestly I use concrete on all of my posts so it doesn’t matter if water runs off from the rails to the posts
Good afternoon I am at Palm Springs California. Do you know the company that makes that and where I would buy these pieces locally
No need to also have a wood 4x4 inside the vinyl post for extra support? I’ve seen some people do & some people don’t add it. Just want to be sure my fence will be strong enough to withstand high winds.
Yea. You don’t need it. You only need reinforcement in the posts holding up gates. And the 4x4 would interfere with the bottom and top rails. Trust me, we live in the high desert of California, it’s super windy here, and our fence is just the same when I put it in.
@@LaceyFamilyFarmhow would you reinforce the posts for the gate?
Another word for Bright Colored String (lol) is Mason Line.
Can you DIY this fence down a slope?
Yes, I made a video in fact for this! ruclips.net/video/urrCxLXeV34/видео.html
Where did u buy the fence and posts ?
Can you put the concrete first so it’s level then put the panels?
You could do that, it just might make it harder to move the post around to get the top and bottom rails on
Plumb - not level. I like how you added the concrete last. Allows for correction.
Good point. thank you!
do we need to use the U channels? I did ask Menards about the U channels, but they said fence don't need it , right or not , pls help
Around about how much did the fence cost you considering the size of your back yard? My backyard is almost the same size and I’m wanting to put a fence like this one around it.
I have a video coming out next weekend detailing it, but the quick and dirty is we had about 450 feet of fencing with 3 gates and with tax it was about 11,000$ in total. Check out the video coming up and I’m going to go through how I got that number and how you can accurately guess the cost for you.
How deep did you make the post holes? Would it bee the same depth no matter the fence height? We need to go with 4ft panels because of our HOA
I believe they make posts for the 4 foot fence segments
I was just wondering why you didn't put all the panels in, then put to top on?
Can i buy just one panel lost mine in a storm
Yes, you can buy the posts individually and the panels individually at Lowes.
What do you do if you notice on the level that the post isn’t leveled. Do you put something against it on the opposite side of the lean as the cement is drying?
The cement I use is fast drying so I just level it once and then just monitor it for about 15-20 minutes and then it’s setup.
Do you let the concrete setup before moving to the next section I would think starting another section would cause the prior post to move out of level. Why not just set all the post in concrete and level them then build after they dry. That’s how I saw a pro installer do it.
How much of the concrete bag did you use in each post hole?
Probably about 1/2 to 2/3 a big but it will depend on how wide you auger the hole
How many holes can a bag of concrete fill?
Man’s to slick
What do you mean?
@@LaceyFamilyFarm I took it as....what a smart and much simpler way to install it like you did! Hands down the best way I've seen it done! I'm a female and am positive after watching this that I can tackle this myself! Thank you so much!
@@shonashook2497 I’m so glad!!!
You have noted down all the materials in the video explanation, but the type of fence and where we can order it is missing. Your explanation makes the assembly very easy, but this video only covers shallow surfaces and not steep surfaces or uneven terrain.
I just posted a video about doing it on hills!
ruclips.net/video/urrCxLXeV34/видео.html
Where did you buy the vinyl fencing? I'm in antelope valley ca
Thank you
Your welcome!
Looks like Apple Valley Ca...
What kind of glue do you recommend to use to glue the top caps on?
They have a type of vinyl glue that works great for gluing vinyl stuff together.
Use thermal setting elastomeric Caulking.. just a small dab on 2 inside of the cap.
Hi how much did you spend on this, how many sq feet? Thank you
I have a video coming out next weekend detailing it, but the quick and dirty is we had about 450 feet of fencing with 3 gates and with tax it was about 11,000$ in total. Check out the video coming up and I’m going to go through how I got that number and how you can accurately guess the cost for you.
Interested in the sequence. The manufacturer's instructions on my brand say to set both end posts in concrete first, then do all the mid posts with the bottom rails next (in half the bad of dry concrete. Then once you have all posts set in position wet the concrete. But this sequence looks a bit different. Any reason why you are doing them full-blown sequentially like this?
You could theoretically do that, I didn’t for a few reasons though. First one was I was only doing one or two sections at a time after I got home from work. And second it was just easier to make sure they stayed straight and level by only having to focus on one or two posts at a time. I feel like it would be hard to make sure they’re all straight and level after you have wet concrete on multiple of them.
@@LaceyFamilyFarm I'm a fence contractor, we only do wet concrete with no bracing. it holds up extremely well typically and you can always adjust it when you do your top line even if a post is out of line. typically you fudge it and bring the top in line with the rest by pushing it either in or out. The main advantage to setting everything at once is most yards won't be level, or straight without making massive sacrifices in overall height so it's better to set them all and then figure out what your top line is going to be. Also even if your off say a 1/8th or so you won't ever see it tbh, unless it's like a 4 foot tall fence and you can actually look above it but still you can always go back and run a line at each end and line it up with the end posts. And side to side, referring to the panel side doesn't typically matter because the panel your building will usually straighten the pole out, but we don't usually build perfect panels because it's a bit more time consuming and doesn't really provide much benefit as far as looks because once you get around 8 feet you won't be able to tell if it's a few inches shorter.
Wait...you don't need to stick in 4*4 lumber in the post tube?
Oh no! You won’t be able to get the bottom and top rail in if you put a post inside it. You can and should use a metal I beam that’s made for these on posts that have a gate attached. This allows for the bottom and top rails to stick into the post
What is the drilled out hole that is on the fence post @2:23?
It’s to help water even out and cement go inside to help keep the post in the hole
@@LaceyFamilyFarm got it. thanks for the response and thanks for doing the video!
How do you do a gate on a vinyl fence
Unfortunately I didn’t make a video about that part but I will make one that will come out later this summer.
What covers the end post with the exposed hole
The hardware store has caps that cover the holes.
How to do a 90 degree corner
think this would be good for a big dog like strong enough ?
I think so. As long as you cement in each post. We just got a great Pyrenees, so we will let you know when she gets bigger
Cool video. How much they cost
They are about 110$ for each panel about about 30$ for each post.
@@LaceyFamilyFarm thanks
@@LaceyFamilyFarm Thanks for the pricing, but where did you get them for this price? Big box stores i've seen have them for well over these prices. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
@@Adam12SD it was from Lowe’s, but that was about 6-9 months ago now. So it may have gone up since
I still don't understand and I haven't seen anyone put steel rods or smaller steel tubes inside the tubes that are the struts of the fence and pour cement inside the tubes up to a height of 2' above ground level. so that it is a monolithic piece with more strength because the rains pass and the winds soften the pillars and then you have a fence that looks like a hammock moving from side to side. Sorry if my observation bothers anyone but it is my observation. and I hope this maybe helps you improve the installation🙏🏽
How do make sure each post is level with the other
I would use my level on the bottom rail and make sure that’s level. That would indicate both are level.
where did you get the vinyl fencing from?
I got it from Lowe’s.
@@LaceyFamilyFarm Thank you!!!
Can you set the panels all the bottom rail first , and the put the top rail on?
If I’m understanding correctly, you could do that, but it’s going to be hard to get the top rail on while keeping the middle panels snug against the post.
@@LaceyFamilyFarm yea, you understood my question correctly based off of you answer. I’m about to do my backyard. I’ve done a chain link fence before, not vinyl. Just doing my homework. It’s the leveling after all is installed that has me a little off.
@@joejones56 yea. Just make sure your post hole is big enough for a little movement. Then connect everything up, and make sure everything is tight. Then pour your dry fast setting concrete. Check level on the post. Wet your concrete and then check level again. Then after 20 minutes check level again.
That’s what I did for all my about 70 panels and it works out perfect. About the time I was done with the next panel I went back and checked level on the previous post before I poured concrete on the next one
@@LaceyFamilyFarm I appreciate the input. Would you recommend to stay away from the self expanding stuff in the bag? Have you seen it ? Also, should the post caps be sealed to keep water out of the posts? Or just a screw is ok.
The hole for the post is 24 or 29?
Either one would work. You just need it about double as wide as the post to effectively concrete it in.
What size auger did you use?
This is the exact one I used. I think it’s an 8 or 6 inch bit
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@@LaceyFamilyFarm Thanks man! I am going to attempt this thanks to you.
How deep are the holes?
im trying to calculate how to buy the vinyl and buy the correct one
What if you don't need a full panel?
You just cut the top and bottom rail shorter by the amount of vertical panels you are removing. Just keep in mind the rails won’t have the little notches to help keep them in anymore, so you might need a screw or some vinyl glue
What about an area that is slopped or hilly?
I have a video about that! Lol
White Vinyl Fence on a Hill
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How do you line up the bottom hole on the fence post?
The bottom of the post? I used a string connected to large nails in the ground to make sure I had the posts in a straight line
I'm thinking of doing this job myself to save us some money from having someone else do it. How do you deal with installing them on a hill?
I’m going to put together a video for this. But in the meantime I’ll just show you in a short video. Can you send me an email at laceyfamilyfarms@gmail.com ? I’ll respond back later today.
Where do I order this vinyl fencing?
I got mine through lowes, but you can get them through Home Depot as well.
isnt it easier to just push the top rail down onto them when they are already in the bottom rail
I’ve been told to insert an 8’ 4x4 inside each post to make it stronger against wind, snow and kids possibly pushing on the fence. Is this necessary?
You can do that, but dont need to. As long as you cement each post, it will be secure. On high stress posts, like the ones connected to gates, you can purchase an I Beam to go inside it. the 4x4 could be problematic also, because the top and bottom rails need space inside the post when they go into their holes.