Thank you for the video! I've just fixed my phone by following the steps. Can't say if this is temporary or permanent, but is solved my problem. Thanks again!
Worked for me! Thanks! But I did not do everything in this video. I extracted the mainboard and removed all plastic parts and rubber parts. After that I protected the rest of the sensitive components with aluminium foil, such as the standby button and and the volume rocker, the sim card tray and the proximity/lux sensor. Than I used a heat gun (approx 180 °C for 90 seconds) to heat up the same chip like in this video. After cooling down I assembled everything and it started successfully for 2 minutes. After that the bootloop started again. So I repeated the process with approx 210 °C. But directly after the 90 seconds of heating up I pushed the chip gently towards the mainboard with a wooden stick. After cooling down and assembling, it works permanently for me. Never had a bootloop again. I recommend to assemble the phone completely except of the back cover with the NEXUS text on it. But I would assemble the cooling plate and the plastic backplate and also the screws, because they are pressing the heat spreader against the chips. So if it continoues to boot but because of heating issues, this wont help you. I did not use any fluid or (ESD-)toothbrush. Just heat. I had a heat gun without temperatur adjustment. I measured the temperature before with my weber grill temperatur indicator. So not that accurate, that is why I started a little bit lower. So if you tried it and you got only a temporarily fix, just try it again with pushing the chip gently downwards. Maybe this will work for you.
Worked for me. First we used a flux pen as this was the only flux we had. We applied the flux over all the "faulty" chip and all the components and chips around the "faulty" chip. We then heated the motherboard with a common household heatgun and had a thermometer (thermocouple) located just above the chip in question. Note we could not focus the heat to only the faulty chip as our heatgun had a big nossel. We approximately used the following heat profile: 100C for 1min, 150C for 1min, 210C for 50sec, 150C for 1min and finally 100C for 1min. The temperature was adjusted by simply moving the heatgun closer or further away. We did not clean the motherboard for residual flux as we forgot to do so - and btw there was also no flux residues to be seen. I will update this comment if our fix continue to work or not. ...Update: The fix worked for only one day :-(
If you cannot afford a hot air station, take the cover off the phone and use a hair dryer on full heat for about 1:30 seconds around the area with the most surface area (processor area) after it's nice and hot, leave the cover off and try turning on your phone, it should boot long enough to retrieve your personal information. I was just given one of these phones and spent hours banging my head, I thought it was a software problem, here it was a hardware problem all along. (pretty common with processors that don't have adequate cooling) Anyway, if you want a decent phone, buy a Motorola, they are built like tanks.
So far, so good. Good enough to backup data. Fingers crossed it stays long enough I can get my money's worth out of this phone. I was skeptical buying the 5x because I had 2 Nexus 5s prior to this that both fell into bootloops. I suppose my skepticism was validated...again. Thanks for this post!
1:24 You also want to use plastic tools to avoid damaging the plastic pieces. The actual chance you will short or bridge something taking off the plastic piece is very small.
@@ICDTTechnologies thank you, I am located in Turkey so no chance to have it fixed to them. I ordered a new screen from aliexpress, I hope it is a good replacement part. Reviews are good. Sadly I broke the screen while opening the case to replace the battery, pixel case is hard to open, nexus is easy.
Mine right now is out for repair and the initial reflow didn't work. :| so now it's out for a new power chip or something. Honestly I'm so mad about these dang phones but I appreciate every video out there to help folks work through the issues with them.
I sent mine into LG for the bootloop, but they apparently found "water damage" and they did not repair it (there was no water damage, and I have since learned they commonly use this excuse). They sent it back (after getting $19.95 for a diagnostic fee), but when I opened it, I realized they left out the L-shaped EMF metal shield. I am going to call them (preparing to be frustrated), but in the meantime, is it okay to use it without that shield?
I replaced my failed 16gb with a used 32gb and put the non-working one in a drawer. You're welcome to use it as a test subject and see if you can replace the RAM chip and get it working, if it's not too costly.
Great video, very informative. I have a bit of a different problem... I can't get my phone to turn on or even take a charge unless one special battery back which is super old and I assume doesn't have some sort of overfeed protection... It happened after a beta update to 8.0...before that the phone was getting very hot and extremely sluggish. After watching your video I decided that it's possible that there was a defective solder joint on the main board where the USB type-c port may have been damaged... I inspected everything and didn't see any visible cues... Do you have any other recommendations?
I wonder if this is partly due to the lead free solder being more susceptible to cracking as the CPU & RAM expand and contract as the CPU heats up during use. Could reballing both the RAM and the CPU with old school leaded solder be more of a permanent fix?
hey.... can we use hair dryer instead of that heating gun...? please reply what was that when you sprayed after the chipquick gel...? was that water...? is there any other alternative for that chipquick gel
Thank you for posting. Most hair dryers have a max temp of around 150° - 200° F. They do not get hot enough to reflow the solder. Also, the spray was not water. It was 91% isopropyl alcohol. There are many alternative manufacturers for the flux (I use ChipQuik). I recommend using only the "no-clean" flux. I also recommend using a hot air rework station, so that you can accurately control the temperature and airspeed. If you only have a heat gun, you should use a laser thermometer, to monitor the temperature of the board, and set the heat gun to the lowest airspeed.
What happens when the SoC gets in direct contact with the heat ?? It had worked the first time then the error came again. I did it again and the device worked again. The device has no root and the bootloader is too. I installed Substratum the next morning and Andromeda from XDA ran the script on the pc. Later, the device did not start anymore and stayed in fastboot mode. Now it does not start anymore. So I ask if it can be that it does not start because the Snapdragon was too hot. because otherwise everything looks good. ??????
hello, i have an inquiries on nexus 5x. I have changed my battery on my nexus 5x but it end up heating up the component near the fingerprint area. i tried to boot it up & it is working but there is no display & the fingerprint area is still hot. i know it is working when i tried to connect to my pc and the pc detected my phone. my questions is, whats the reason for this? what should i do?
Angeal Hayleyy Without looking at it I would say that the same problem is starting to happen on your phone. I would recommend backing up all you data while it is still working. The emmc and SOC are stacked together as one (shown heating in the video) and is located right under the finger print sensor.
ICDT Technologies i would say that it is already too late so back up my data due to the lcd did not display anything. all i can hear is the sound of battery charging. so should i proceed to this method or not? i only have the heater in my workshop right now along with electronic cleaner and some alchol swabs. is it enough for this operation?
I believe that you do need to do this. The heat is coming from the processor looping and working too hard. Please let me know how it works out. We are still offering the data recovery service if you need help.
@@ICDTTechnologies yes i can access bootloader but when i select recovery mode its goes back to google logo and keeps that repeating again
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Hi! I'm having a similar boot loop problem with my Nexus 5. My first idea was that only the power button is failing (a new one is on the way), but i tried to wash it through with contact spray, even with wd-40, since i had nothing to lose. But it had no effect. Do you have any idea, how could i test if the power button is the problem, or something like the one in your video? I'm afraid i have to start looking for a new phone... :/
Hi ! unfortunately this saved my phone during one day and now issue came back. Could you please tell us what is the liquid you put on the chip before warming it ? Thanks.
I don't know, but I will definitely look into it. at the very least I can see that the copper and thermal paste are applying pressure to the back of the chip, which can help close the contacts that are broken. I will research this and if it is a viable solution I will post a new video. Thank you.
Hi, did you have the chance to check it? I have this problem, tried with a Hair dryer the phone boot for 1 hour, and then frozen again. I tried again, but this time the phone won't turn on. Is completely dead. Thanks!
I have a Nexus 6P that started boot looping. Tried reflashing all partitions (except userdata) and no luck. Cannot even get into recovery only fastboot. I tried flashing modified boot and recovery images to disable big cores also. Is there anything else like this to try?
ICDT Technologies yeah, I tried to freeze me phone, then switch it on a hundred of times; when it switched on I tried to clean the memory; then I heat it and cleaned it like in this video and now it works (even if maybe not for long) ... and I've got no idea what was the problem. Maybe you know?
We recommend that you NEVER freeze your phone, when trying to repair it. This will promote condensation, which can lead to corrosion. We are still offering the data recovery service and LG and Google are still covering warranties on this fault.
Watching on a Nexus 5X. Strange that on two occasions mine bootlooped and the first one stopped after Factory Reset. The second incident got fixed by uninstalling Shareit. Other vids recommended using a copper plate heatsink. Any thoughts how much longer mine will last with a heatsink mod?
I am facing the same problem .Saw your video got little hope for my Nexus 5x to get alive. But confused, Is it a permanent fixing method or temporary? And concern that the phone you fixed after heating is working fine till date..
This is what I would call a semi-permanent fix. The customer for this device is still actively using his phone (6 days as of this reply). I would use this technique to retrieve data and maybe able to use till you are able to replace the phone.
What you should do if you have this problem is, if you want to get the data off the phone, do this and get the data off it first, but if you don't care about the data on it you can skip that and follow this guide:forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-5x/general/tool-bootloop-death-blod-workaround-t3819497 If you want automatic updates, follow the directions in the second thread on that post. If you are going to do this I recommend also flashing an OmniROM-based ROM for the most seamless installation of updates. If you want increased security, you can generate your own signing keys and replace the ones in the zip with them, then transfer the updated zip to your phone.
i tried as in the video but nothing it started and after few minutes went down so i used another temperature cos 380 °F was not enough so i used for 1 minute 450 F with a peak of 500°F with a square tip for solder hot air. Now is working it s almost passed a day, it seems everything s ok. Anyway i putted a large piece of tape biadhesive in the rear of the chip, so it's more pressed.
Marco Esposito what I did is flash a costum kernel and boot image via fastboot, this way the phone only uses the little cluster cores and bypasses the big cluster (the effected chips). Google Nexus 5x BLOD fix
If I have that option I wouldve done that. My problem is that I dont have any warranty or LG support here in my country. Watched your video before I came here and time wasted. You shouldve changed your title of that vid
Julian Teoh I am sorry you don't have the warranty and support that we have here. There is no way for me to know how this works in other countries. I titled my video the way I did on purpose, as I believe it is truly the only viable option for: fixing the bootloop in a way that does not void the warranty, fixing the problem for free, and fixing the problem in a way which provides a 90 day warranty on the work; all through the manufacturer of the device. I want those who do have the warranty option (but do not know that) to see this option first; before they destroy their phones or have a false sense of security that their phone is fixed, when the problem will just return again. If you want your phone to work, just know that the problem is a bad motherboard. That is what LG replaced in my phone. I hope you can find a reliable repair shop that can replace that part for a reasonable price. I don't know of any other real solution for you.
Hello, I have the bootloop issue in my Nexus 5X and LG representative in my country (Dominican Republic) diagnosed my phone with a bad motherboard and told me that I have to replace it. Do you have the part number or any identifier of the motherboard LG placed in your phone?...I need to buy the motherboard but I'm not sure how to find the one without the bootloop issue. Thanks in advance.
I had this happen to my phone today. I don't have the tools to really do this repair myself, although it looks like this is only a temporary fix. Do we know what the actual fix is? Where can I find a place that can do this fix? Any idea of the cost for the fix? Thanks!
Hi there my phone has exact the same problem. Here is my question . What type of Thermal Compound are you using ? Is it MX-4 by Arctic ? Wish me good luck i will need it . Thank you for your video. It gave me hope to retrieve my pictures.
Reeeeealy great video, man. Thank you. I will try your method this week. Can you please tell me what was that on the syringe? Can I use a "regular" Heatgun?
Thank you so much for the compliment. The syringe is Chip Quick No-clean Flux. It helps transfer heat to the chip and prevents the solder joints around the chip from oxidizing. I also do not recommend a heat gun, because it blasts a heat at a wide area. Also, the air speed on a heat gun is too fast, even on low setting. It may be too fast and you risk blowing components out of place or off the board. Please let me know how it turns out.
I'm in Brazil...the "Chip Quick No-clean Flux" I never heard from and I think it will be hard to find. The machine you used I have never seen it too. =/ Just got cold feet after this informations. hehehehe....Should I isolate the others components from the heat gun blast with Tin Foil?
The flux can be found on Amazon. smile.amazon.com/ChipQuik-SMD-291-Clean-Syringe-Nozzle/dp/B00CM2A97S/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1500874596&sr=8-5&keywords=no+clean+flux The machine is called a hot air rework station. You can use a budget hot air station, but if you only have a heat gun, use a laser thermometer. And if you want to isolate the chip, I would use kapton tape. It has a very high resistance to heat.
吴灏葱 I think you may be talking about the small tin on the base of my microscope. That is actually tinning paste to clean and care for my soldering iron tips.
southpaw the chips are due in tgis week. If its successful, I will post a new video immediately upon completion. I already have the phone to be repaired.
The back cover is difficult. You can just use your hand very gently or us a plastic safe open tool to work the clasps loose on the sides. I start opening from the charging port. I hope this helps.
Use the corner of an expired plastic (credit) card if you don't have a plastic tool for this. Definitely start from the charging port or the SIM card slot with the tray removed.
Thank you for posting. I am sorry that you are having trouble. I would recommend trying again. Maybe increase temp to 390°F - 400°F but no higher than 400°F. While you are heating the chip in a circular pattern, closely observe the small components around the chip for the solder reflowing (the solder will become shiney). At that point remove the heat and allow it to cool.
ICDT Technologies thank you for your time...i tried but after a while it goes into bootloop again..i tried heating 380-400 but it works for a day or so
Do it once to get it booting temporarily and enable "OEM unlocking" in developer settings (and backup any data), then apply the better software solution from Xda to work around the bad chip: forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-5x/general/untested-nexus-5x-bootloop-death-fix-t3641199
J Peterman this actually fixed my device. Thanks a lot! But the only problem is that it cannot multi task like before and the phone is a bit slow when opening the camera
hey, thanks first of all. I followed your steps as same as you have showed. though it's still on bootloop. but the bootloader only works. what should I do?
Thank you for your question. I am sorry that you are having trouble with your phone. I am unable to diagnose further without looking at the phone. it could be a completely faulty logic board, critical memory space, corrupted ROM, or bad battery. I would recommend inspecting the physical components, or trying the heat again. I wish you the best of luck.
You are right. However the RAM is an eMMC, which means that it has a contoller and flash memory in the same chip. I have found that the problem is inside the chip and not the solder. I will be rediting and reposting a new video on this, to include information on warranty replacement and refunding through LG and that this is a temp repair for data recovery.
if it isnt the solder, do you still need flux when you use this heating method? or would just hitting the chip with heat do the same thing no matter what? I was thinking about picking up a cheap rework station (to have better control of temp and air flow rate) and some flux, but if its overkill for no reason, i have a standard heat gun that i can use. what do you think?
Tony Tran I did it with a heat gun which has an air reductor so that the air comes out in a small area, the speed was too high though so I had to do it carefully. I didn't use flux. After doing it I could use the phone for at least one week, then it died again, I tried heating it again but it didn't worked.
thanks for the reply Nicolas. 2 more questions, does your heat gun have speed settings? mine has a high and low, wondering if it'll still be too strong. next, how long did you apply heat for?
Yes, I did it with low speed, it's maybe too much but I did it in an intermittent way, I can also regulate the temp on my heatgun, I don't remember how much time but remember that is a temporary fix, heat it not too much nor too little so you can recover your photos, if you live in USA you should call LG for the replacement/refunding.
i am Chinese,also a fan of google phone,i updated it to android o,but it has been in bootloop recently,so i try my best to fix this problem according to your video, but i don't know what is on the emc Chip,can u tell me OP???thanx
I am not sure I understand. If you are asking what I am putting on the chip before heating, that is ChipQuick No-clean Flux. If you are asking what the chip is, it is a dual layer chip with the eMMC RAM chip that is mounted on top of the SoC chip.
@@ahmadchaudhry sorry to hear. We are still offering the data recovery service, and please note the ICDT Tech "no fix-no pay" policy. Please call or email for more information.
I gave it to a shop and I believe the person performed the same and worked for few days and again went off. Kindly help me please shall I again reheat ?checked battery voltage it’s fine. It’s a special gift pls help me
This is only a temporary repair to collect data. You can repeat this to reactivate and download contacts, pictures, text messages, etc. I am sorry that this is happening to your phone, and I understand it is even worse when it is a special gift from someone special to you. I wish you the best of luck.
Fk this phone... never will be fixed . Don't waste your time....buy a new one...i had a Nexus which bootlooped 1 months ago...tried everything bt all was a temporary fix. Get a new one ...
I have received a phone and will be completing a permanent repair and upgrade soon. I will be replacing the faulty RAM chip with a new one that will not only repair the Nexus 5x, but also upgrade the RAM from 2Gb to 4Gb. Video will be coming soon. Please watch for it. Thank you.
Any luck with this new fix and video? Thanks for your persistence on this issue. You will be helping many people like myself caught up in this nonsense by LG.
It was working fine for two weeks. Then the boot loop started again. I repeated the procedure and it was working for another four days. Then I had enought and brought it to the repair shop. They changed the mainboard. This fix ist ok to copy all your data off but in my case not for long therme.
The only way to actually is the flash a custom rom onto the phone but it will void the warranty and you will lose all your stuff so if you still have warranty and this happens then i recommend just getting a new phone
A) why is it factory resetted when it suddenly went into bootloop - one would expect it to be set up already.... B) why fixing the emmc when everyone reported it to be a issue with the perf cluster of the 808? Smells fishy, sorry but this insults my mind...
This procedure takes advantage of thermal expansion and allows the phone to work temporarily to recover data. You are correct that the eMMC is the problem and not the RAM chip. Thank you very much for you input. I am always looking to learn and expand my knowledge and abilities
@@ICDTTechnologies not trying to troll you here but I didn't say anything about the RAM nor the EMMC, it's commonly known that the performance cluster of snapdragon 808 (or the soldering of the chip) is the problem, that's why the software-sided solution of a modded boot image works, it disables the 2 performance cores and leaves only the 4 other cores of the CPU enabled - that's why I don't understand your approach to the problem and I'm still wondering why the device is resetted if it unexpectedly felt into bootloop, the bootlooping doesn't factory reset the system, this does not make sense at all....
@@samhausmann1479 This devise did not factory reset. This belonged to a French doctor who reported that all of his data was recovered successfully by this procedure and that the device functioned for 3 weeks after the recovery. We also offer the 4 core kernel installation. I know you are not trolling and I grately appreciate your comments.
@@ICDTTechnologies thanks for understanding that I'm honestly interested! But if you check the end of the video you posted it clearly shows a reseted device, this welcome screen only appears on very first start up, also this SIM screen and the encryption password is also missing - this is by no means a "used" device, in fact it shows all signs of being factory resetted, hence my doubts, as this is "the proof" that the device was successfully repaired, it however shows the absolute opposite, I'm also wondering how you diagnose the issue, how you determine if EMMC, RAM, or CPU (perf cluster)? Not meant to be disrespectful but this whole video raises more questions than it actually answers, I have serious doubts on it being legit, like it being a kind of PR stunt!
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Also, performed this exact procedure. Worked great for about 2 hours, then went back to bootloops.
Thanks @ICDT Technologies, you saved me! I followed you instructions and my Nexus 5x came back to life!
Thank you for the video! I've just fixed my phone by following the steps. Can't say if this is temporary or permanent, but is solved my problem.
Thanks again!
Worked for me! Thanks!
But I did not do everything in this video.
I extracted the mainboard and removed all plastic parts and rubber parts. After that I protected the rest of the sensitive components with aluminium foil, such as the standby button and and the volume rocker, the sim card tray and the proximity/lux sensor. Than I used a heat gun (approx 180 °C for 90 seconds) to heat up the same chip like in this video. After cooling down I assembled everything and it started successfully for 2 minutes. After that the bootloop started again.
So I repeated the process with approx 210 °C. But directly after the 90 seconds of heating up I pushed the chip gently towards the mainboard with a wooden stick. After cooling down and assembling, it works permanently for me. Never had a bootloop again.
I recommend to assemble the phone completely except of the back cover with the NEXUS text on it. But I would assemble the cooling plate and the plastic backplate and also the screws, because they are pressing the heat spreader against the chips. So if it continoues to boot but because of heating issues, this wont help you.
I did not use any fluid or (ESD-)toothbrush. Just heat.
I had a heat gun without temperatur adjustment. I measured the temperature before with my weber grill temperatur indicator. So not that accurate, that is why I started a little bit lower.
So if you tried it and you got only a temporarily fix, just try it again with pushing the chip gently downwards. Maybe this will work for you.
thanks
Worked for me.
First we used a flux pen as this was the only flux we had. We applied the flux over all the "faulty" chip and all the components and chips around the "faulty" chip.
We then heated the motherboard with a common household heatgun and had a thermometer (thermocouple) located just above the chip in question. Note we could not focus the heat to only the faulty chip as our heatgun had a big nossel. We approximately used the following heat profile: 100C for 1min, 150C for 1min, 210C for 50sec, 150C for 1min and finally 100C for 1min. The temperature was adjusted by simply moving the heatgun closer or further away.
We did not clean the motherboard for residual flux as we forgot to do so - and btw there was also no flux residues to be seen.
I will update this comment if our fix continue to work or not.
...Update: The fix worked for only one day :-(
If you cannot afford a hot air station, take the cover off the phone and use a hair dryer on full heat for about 1:30 seconds around the area with the most surface area (processor area) after it's nice and hot, leave the cover off and try turning on your phone, it should boot long enough to retrieve your personal information. I was just given one of these phones and spent hours banging my head, I thought it was a software problem, here it was a hardware problem all along. (pretty common with processors that don't have adequate cooling) Anyway, if you want a decent phone, buy a Motorola, they are built like tanks.
Perfectly agreed 😎..
So far, so good. Good enough to backup data. Fingers crossed it stays long enough I can get my money's worth out of this phone. I was skeptical buying the 5x because I had 2 Nexus 5s prior to this that both fell into bootloops. I suppose my skepticism was validated...again. Thanks for this post!
Perfect Guy ! It works and it saved "my life". But your next video should explain why warming this component solve the bootloop issue. Thanks again.
It Works! I didn't have a heat gun so I used a lighter
1:24 You also want to use plastic tools to avoid damaging the plastic pieces. The actual chance you will short or bridge something taking off the plastic piece is very small.
that toothbrush does not look like it's ESD certified
This worked for me. Thank you!
I broke my pixel2's screen so I have to use my Nexus 5x until I receive the new screen for pixel.
I recommend uBreakiFix for your Pixel repair. They are Google certified repairers and the parts are OEM Pixel. Thank you.
@@ICDTTechnologies thank you, I am located in Turkey so no chance to have it fixed to them. I ordered a new screen from aliexpress, I hope it is a good replacement part. Reviews are good.
Sadly I broke the screen while opening the case to replace the battery, pixel case is hard to open, nexus is easy.
Mine right now is out for repair and the initial reflow didn't work. :| so now it's out for a new power chip or something. Honestly I'm so mad about these dang phones but I appreciate every video out there to help folks work through the issues with them.
To be clear I'm mad because I LOVE this phone and I'm upset that my RMA'd one will probably die the same way at some point.
You should advertise your services as a John Goodman substitute voice actor. Close your eyes, and John Goodman is giving hot air workstation advice.
Lol. I think I hear what you are talking about. Thank you for watching.
hi, what's the liquid in the syringe called?
Flux
@@ICDTTechnologies in
In Italian es flusso
I sent mine into LG for the bootloop, but they apparently found "water damage" and they did not repair it (there was no water damage, and I have since learned they commonly use this excuse). They sent it back (after getting $19.95 for a diagnostic fee), but when I opened it, I realized they left out the L-shaped EMF metal shield. I am going to call them (preparing to be frustrated), but in the meantime, is it okay to use it without that shield?
Yes
Im gonna put thermal grease between the chip and plate..is that okay?
I replaced my failed 16gb with a used 32gb and put the non-working one in a drawer. You're welcome to use it as a test subject and see if you can replace the RAM chip and get it working, if it's not too costly.
Where do you get orange spudgers? We have black ones at our shop but never saw orange before.
Great video, very informative. I have a bit of a different problem... I can't get my phone to turn on or even take a charge unless one special battery back which is super old and I assume doesn't have some sort of overfeed protection... It happened after a beta update to 8.0...before that the phone was getting very hot and extremely sluggish.
After watching your video I decided that it's possible that there was a defective solder joint on the main board where the USB type-c port may have been damaged... I inspected everything and didn't see any visible cues... Do you have any other recommendations?
I wonder if this is partly due to the lead free solder being more susceptible to cracking as the CPU & RAM expand and contract as the CPU heats up during use. Could reballing both the RAM and the CPU with old school leaded solder be more of a permanent fix?
is there any permanent fix for this issue?
hey.... can we use hair dryer instead of that heating gun...? please reply
what was that when you sprayed after the chipquick gel...? was that water...? is there any other alternative for that chipquick gel
Thank you for posting. Most hair dryers have a max temp of around 150° - 200° F. They do not get hot enough to reflow the solder. Also, the spray was not water. It was 91% isopropyl alcohol. There are many alternative manufacturers for the flux (I use ChipQuik). I recommend using only the "no-clean" flux. I also recommend using a hot air rework station, so that you can accurately control the temperature and airspeed. If you only have a heat gun, you should use a laser thermometer, to monitor the temperature of the board, and set the heat gun to the lowest airspeed.
What happens when the SoC gets in direct contact with the heat ?? It had worked the first time then the error came again. I did it again and the device worked again. The device has no root and the bootloader is too. I installed Substratum the next morning and Andromeda from XDA ran the script on the pc. Later, the device did not start anymore and stayed in fastboot mode. Now it does not start anymore. So I ask if it can be that it does not start because the Snapdragon was too hot. because otherwise everything looks good. ??????
fixed! i want to know how long will it last...
Tomas Lenarcic this is a temporary repair and should be used for data recovery. The next step is to contact LG and Google for warranty replacement.
What is that at 3:40 pls tell me
Its flux
What soldering flux did you use for this fix?
ChipQuik SMD291NL Flux.
However the regular SMD291 is easier to clean.
hello, i have an inquiries on nexus 5x. I have changed my battery on my nexus 5x but it end up heating up the component near the fingerprint area. i tried to boot it up & it is working but there is no display & the fingerprint area is still hot. i know it is working when i tried to connect to my pc and the pc detected my phone. my questions is, whats the reason for this? what should i do?
Angeal Hayleyy Without looking at it I would say that the same problem is starting to happen on your phone. I would recommend backing up all you data while it is still working. The emmc and SOC are stacked together as one (shown heating in the video) and is located right under the finger print sensor.
ICDT Technologies i would say that it is already too late so back up my data due to the lcd did not display anything. all i can hear is the sound of battery charging. so should i proceed to this method or not? i only have the heater in my workshop right now along with electronic cleaner and some alchol swabs. is it enough for this operation?
I believe that you do need to do this. The heat is coming from the processor looping and working too hard. Please let me know how it works out. We are still offering the data recovery service if you need help.
ICDT Technologies understood, i will try to do it later & will be sure to update here if anything happens. thanks for the responses good sir!
Am having the sane issue with my nexus 6p..
How can i buy new memory chip?
The 2 most common causes for boot loop on the 6P is bad processor or critical memory (Memory storage is full). Are you able to access the bootloader?
@@ICDTTechnologies yes i can access bootloader but when i select recovery mode its goes back to google logo and keeps that repeating again
Hi! I'm having a similar boot loop problem with my Nexus 5. My first idea was that only the power button is failing (a new one is on the way), but i tried to wash it through with contact spray, even with wd-40, since i had nothing to lose. But it had no effect. Do you have any idea, how could i test if the power button is the problem, or something like the one in your video? I'm afraid i have to start looking for a new phone... :/
meu celular tava 6 anos parado em casa fiz e deu certo . muito obrigado parabéns
I just did this. It works! Thank you!
What was that air spray you used?? where to buy it from?
Hey I'm about to perform this on a friend's n5x would it be ok if i used some flux paste? I have some SRA rosin paste flux that I plan on using.
pnbr0014 i recommend using "no-clean" flux.
Hi ! unfortunately this saved my phone during one day and now issue came back. Could you please tell us what is the liquid you put on the chip before warming it ? Thanks.
it worked for me, very well. I hope it last. Thank you so much !
Have you seen the method in this video: "Nexus 5x bootloop fix 4pda 2017 New method: heatsink + copper" What can you say about it?
I don't know, but I will definitely look into it. at the very least I can see that the copper and thermal paste are applying pressure to the back of the chip, which can help close the contacts that are broken. I will research this and if it is a viable solution I will post a new video. Thank you.
Thank you!
Hi, did you have the chance to check it?
I have this problem, tried with a Hair dryer the phone boot for 1 hour, and then frozen again.
I tried again, but this time the phone won't turn on. Is completely dead.
Thanks!
I didn't try this new method. =/
What is the liquid that you put on the chip
I have a Nexus 6P that started boot looping. Tried reflashing all partitions (except userdata) and no luck. Cannot even get into recovery only fastboot. I tried flashing modified boot and recovery images to disable big cores also. Is there anything else like this to try?
didn't work for me..I don't have any blower or tools like described so I used hair dryer for heating and didn't worked.
why does the heat fixes it ? it seems like everyone does it and it works =/
Elijah Mayorov It is strange. We are taking advantage of thermal expansion.
ICDT Technologies yeah, I tried to freeze me phone, then switch it on a hundred of times; when it switched on I tried to clean the memory; then I heat it and cleaned it like in this video and now it works (even if maybe not for long) ... and I've got no idea what was the problem. Maybe you know?
We recommend that you NEVER freeze your phone, when trying to repair it. This will promote condensation, which can lead to corrosion. We are still offering the data recovery service and LG and Google are still covering warranties on this fault.
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merely fixes it, only for about a month then itll screw up again
hi, would you want to fix mine
I would be happy to help. Please email us at icdttech@gmail.com and we can help get started
Where's the new perm fix video?
Watching on a Nexus 5X.
Strange that on two occasions mine bootlooped and the first one stopped after Factory Reset. The second incident got fixed by uninstalling Shareit.
Other vids recommended using a copper plate heatsink.
Any thoughts how much longer mine will last with a heatsink mod?
Aren't you supposed to remove the chip and reball ?
he said the ram is faulty. reballing does nothing
Any update on this? Is there a way to fix it permanently?
I am facing the same problem .Saw your video got little hope for my Nexus 5x to get alive. But confused, Is it a permanent fixing method or temporary? And concern that the phone you fixed after heating is working fine till date..
This is what I would call a semi-permanent fix. The customer for this device is still actively using his phone (6 days as of this reply). I would use this technique to retrieve data and maybe able to use till you are able to replace the phone.
Hmm.. Ultimately I have to change my Board..
Does anybody know know if the LG warranty is still good?
What you should do if you have this problem is, if you want to get the data off the phone, do this and get the data off it first, but if you don't care about the data on it you can skip that and follow this guide:forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-5x/general/tool-bootloop-death-blod-workaround-t3819497
If you want automatic updates, follow the directions in the second thread on that post. If you are going to do this I recommend also flashing an OmniROM-based ROM for the most seamless installation of updates.
If you want increased security, you can generate your own signing keys and replace the ones in the zip with them, then transfer the updated zip to your phone.
can you do one for lenovo k8 note ?
its on bootloop .
oye amigo que es lo que le untas (colocas ensima) al chip????
Tio Ramirez flux
黑屏。查了不少救砖都不行，这个方法一次成功。正常使用中！多谢分享
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hi i tried thiss and it works, but when it cool down it fails again, any suggestion?
Guillermo Cuesta Blanco I am still researching a more permanent solution. In the mean time I believe LG is still doing warranties and refunds.
ICDT Technologies do you how I can get to the warranty if it's off the time?
marcdan25 Check my newest video. There is a link to the google site to start the warranty.
i tried as in the video but nothing it started and after few minutes went down so i used another temperature cos 380 °F was not enough so i used for 1 minute 450 F with a peak of 500°F with a square tip for solder hot air. Now is working it s almost passed a day, it seems everything s ok. Anyway i putted a large piece of tape biadhesive in the rear of the chip, so it's more pressed.
Marco Esposito so does it still work?
Vladislav Matveev It works for 2/3 days then no.
U ve to remake the process in my case everytime.
Marco Esposito what I did is flash a costum kernel and boot image via fastboot, this way the phone only uses the little cluster cores and bypasses the big cluster (the effected chips). Google Nexus 5x BLOD fix
Marco Esposito I think it would work if one would completely resolder the chip and then add a copper plate as heat sink and for pressure
Temporary fix ....
If I have that option I wouldve done that. My problem is that I dont have any warranty or LG support here in my country. Watched your video before I came here and time wasted. You shouldve changed your title of that vid
Julian Teoh I am sorry you don't have the warranty and support that we have here. There is no way for me to know how this works in other countries. I titled my video the way I did on purpose, as I believe it is truly the only viable option for: fixing the bootloop in a way that does not void the warranty, fixing the problem for free, and fixing the problem in a way which provides a 90 day warranty on the work; all through the manufacturer of the device. I want those who do have the warranty option (but do not know that) to see this option first; before they destroy their phones or have a false sense of security that their phone is fixed, when the problem will just return again. If you want your phone to work, just know that the problem is a bad motherboard. That is what LG replaced in my phone. I hope you can find a reliable repair shop that can replace that part for a reasonable price. I don't know of any other real solution for you.
exactly ,its only a temporary solution, works only for few minutes
Hello, I have the bootloop issue in my Nexus 5X and LG representative in my country (Dominican Republic) diagnosed my phone with a bad motherboard and told me that I have to replace it. Do you have the part number or any identifier of the motherboard LG placed in your phone?...I need to buy the motherboard but I'm not sure how to find the one without the bootloop issue. Thanks in advance.
Yup. I just got another phone for about $200. Much happier with it anyway!
I tried this. Phone came to normal working state and after 5 days again im having bootloop issues. Should i need to repeat this procedure again?
I had this happen to my phone today. I don't have the tools to really do this repair myself, although it looks like this is only a temporary fix. Do we know what the actual fix is? Where can I find a place that can do this fix? Any idea of the cost for the fix? Thanks!
Don`t you mean 380 degrees Celsius, as solder flows at 650 degrees Fahrenheit. 350 degrees fahrenheit will not flow solder...
Hi there my phone has exact the same problem. Here is my question . What type of Thermal Compound are you using ? Is it MX-4 by Arctic ? Wish me good luck i will need it . Thank you for your video. It gave me hope to retrieve my pictures.
Reeeeealy great video, man. Thank you. I will try your method this week. Can you please tell me what was that on the syringe? Can I use a "regular" Heatgun?
Thank you so much for the compliment. The syringe is Chip Quick No-clean Flux. It helps transfer heat to the chip and prevents the solder joints around the chip from oxidizing. I also do not recommend a heat gun, because it blasts a heat at a wide area. Also, the air speed on a heat gun is too fast, even on low setting. It may be too fast and you risk blowing components out of place or off the board. Please let me know how it turns out.
I'm in Brazil...the "Chip Quick No-clean Flux" I never heard from and I think it will be hard to find. The machine you used I have never seen it too. =/ Just got cold feet after this informations. hehehehe....Should I isolate the others components from the heat gun blast with Tin Foil?
The flux can be found on Amazon.
smile.amazon.com/ChipQuik-SMD-291-Clean-Syringe-Nozzle/dp/B00CM2A97S/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1500874596&sr=8-5&keywords=no+clean+flux
The machine is called a hot air rework station. You can use a budget hot air station, but if you only have a heat gun, use a laser thermometer. And if you want to isolate the chip, I would use kapton tape. It has a very high resistance to heat.
I can't thank you enough!
I tried with a heat gun and the phone was up for 7h. =/
Any ideas?
is that Scaling powder？
吴灏葱 I think you may be talking about the small tin on the base of my microscope. That is actually tinning paste to clean and care for my soldering iron tips.
ICDT Technologies my mean is, what do you drop on on the cpu?thanks
ICDT Technologies what is inside the needle
ICDT Technologies or ,do you have twitter? we can disscuss in it. thanks
@@houchongng4907 Flux
working very well! thank you !
Thanks for the very informative video. Have you managed to try replacing the eMMC chip yet?
southpaw the chips are due in tgis week. If its successful, I will post a new video immediately upon completion. I already have the phone to be repaired.
looking forward for it
Fantastic. I really look forward to hearing the results. Would it be possible to film the entire replacement process?
Sadly it's just a temporary fix like this. I had to reball the chip and get all the old bad solder out to completely alleviate the issue.
reballing work ?
Can I send in to fix my 5x, and how much is $, thx
We are happy to help. Please contact me at icdttech@gmail.com
How the heck did you get it open?
The back cover is difficult. You can just use your hand very gently or us a plastic safe open tool to work the clasps loose on the sides. I start opening from the charging port. I hope this helps.
Use the corner of an expired plastic (credit) card if you don't have a plastic tool for this. Definitely start from the charging port or the SIM card slot with the tray removed.
we can use this method for nexus 6p
I'm from india...
Thankx you soo much. It works perfectly 100000%.
But not sure is it a permanent fix or temporary fix.
But overall thankx again.
Man , is this work for Nexus 6p bootloop
I did this for one of mu friend..it worked initially but after around 1 day the issue started again..can you let me know what needs to be done here
Thank you for posting. I am sorry that you are having trouble. I would recommend trying again. Maybe increase temp to 390°F - 400°F but no higher than 400°F. While you are heating the chip in a circular pattern, closely observe the small components around the chip for the solder reflowing (the solder will become shiney). At that point remove the heat and allow it to cool.
ICDT Technologies thank you for your time...i tried but after a while it goes into bootloop again..i tried heating 380-400 but it works for a day or so
Buy an iPhone
Do it once to get it booting temporarily and enable "OEM unlocking" in developer settings (and backup any data), then apply the better software solution from Xda to work around the bad chip: forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-5x/general/untested-nexus-5x-bootloop-death-fix-t3641199
J Peterman this actually fixed my device. Thanks a lot! But the only problem is that it cannot multi task like before and the phone is a bit slow when opening the camera
how to communicate with LG and GOOGLE?
hey, thanks first of all.
I followed your steps as same as you have showed. though it's still on bootloop. but the bootloader only works.
what should I do?
Thank you for your question. I am sorry that you are having trouble with your phone. I am unable to diagnose further without looking at the phone. it could be a completely faulty logic board, critical memory space, corrupted ROM, or bad battery. I would recommend inspecting the physical components, or trying the heat again. I wish you the best of luck.
What you're heating is the "Samsung K3QF3F30BM-QGCF 2 GB LPDDR3 RAM", not the eMMC
You are right. However the RAM is an eMMC, which means that it has a contoller and flash memory in the same chip. I have found that the problem is inside the chip and not the solder. I will be rediting and reposting a new video on this, to include information on warranty replacement and refunding through LG and that this is a temp repair for data recovery.
if it isnt the solder, do you still need flux when you use this heating method? or would just hitting the chip with heat do the same thing no matter what? I was thinking about picking up a cheap rework station (to have better control of temp and air flow rate) and some flux, but if its overkill for no reason, i have a standard heat gun that i can use. what do you think?
Tony Tran I did it with a heat gun which has an air reductor so that the air comes out in a small area, the speed was too high though so I had to do it carefully. I didn't use flux. After doing it I could use the phone for at least one week, then it died again, I tried heating it again but it didn't worked.
thanks for the reply Nicolas. 2 more questions, does your heat gun have speed settings? mine has a high and low, wondering if it'll still be too strong. next, how long did you apply heat for?
Yes, I did it with low speed, it's maybe too much but I did it in an intermittent way, I can also regulate the temp on my heatgun, I don't remember how much time but remember that is a temporary fix, heat it not too much nor too little so you can recover your photos, if you live in USA you should call LG for the replacement/refunding.
i am Chinese,also a fan of google phone,i updated it to android o,but it has been in bootloop recently,so i try my best to fix this problem according to your video, but i don't know what is on the emc Chip,can u tell me OP???thanx
I am not sure I understand. If you are asking what I am putting on the chip before heating, that is ChipQuick No-clean Flux. If you are asking what the chip is, it is a dual layer chip with the eMMC RAM chip that is mounted on top of the SoC chip.
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the first answer is what i wanna ,thanx dude,but i heat it up,it still has the bootloop problem,how can i solve it
What was that in the test that you put on this processor and what kind of blower do you use from how much cotton ???
I have one that is bootlooped so I'm going to try this
If you want to try the replacement technique of the chip I’d volunteer my phone.
Now I hate LG and Google(((
LG's fault...
Definitely LG fault
what is this black pasta?
Man! you are a life savior, I've followed your method, and it worked for me, thanks a lot!
How long has it been working for you?
Yes.. how long did it last?
LG fixed my phone for free, well out of warranty too!
Kya hua hoga
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@@ICDTTechnologies i did the same but no work
Sahi nhi hota ye fone
@@ahmadchaudhry sorry to hear. We are still offering the data recovery service, and please note the ICDT Tech "no fix-no pay" policy. Please call or email for more information.
I gave it to a shop and I believe the person performed the same and worked for few days and again went off. Kindly help me please shall I again reheat ?checked battery voltage it’s fine. It’s a special gift pls help me
This is only a temporary repair to collect data. You can repeat this to reactivate and download contacts, pictures, text messages, etc. I am sorry that this is happening to your phone, and I understand it is even worse when it is a special gift from someone special to you. I wish you the best of luck.
i am trying this with my heat gun but in it doesn't work you are more than welcome to try a repair.
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ICDT Technologies you have had my phones for over 3 months now. Can I have them back now please?
Fk this phone... never will be fixed .
Don't waste your time....buy a new one...i had a Nexus which bootlooped 1 months ago...tried everything bt all was a temporary fix. Get a new one ...
I have received a phone and will be completing a permanent repair and upgrade soon. I will be replacing the faulty RAM chip with a new one that will not only repair the Nexus 5x, but also upgrade the RAM from 2Gb to 4Gb. Video will be coming soon. Please watch for it. Thank you.
Any luck with this new fix and video? Thanks for your persistence on this issue. You will be helping many people like myself caught up in this nonsense by LG.
WNA architects chips are arriving from China Thursday or Friday. I will be working on it very soon.
Great. Thank you!
WNA architects i still think..do the ppl have enough time to do this stuff
Working for me, thank!!!
We are happy to have been a help for you. If you have any questions please let us know.
Is this a permanent fix ?
No. This should be considered a temporary fix for data recovery. I am investigating a permanent repair, but am not ready to post that yet
yes its working for me
Very nice video, thank you.
How long can it last? Your procedure made my cell phone work again. Thank you
Fixed my phone. Thank you!
is it sill working !
It was working fine for two weeks. Then the boot loop started again. I repeated the procedure and it was working for another four days. Then I had enought and brought it to the repair shop. They changed the mainboard. This fix ist ok to copy all your data off but in my case not for long therme.
even with the mainboard being changed it didnt fix it ? ;( so your giving up on it
Hi, changing the mainboard has finaly fixed the Phone.
+Daniel Keller such a great news ! i will order the motherboard online and try it on my friends phone , thank you very much !
It does work but it is quite faulty.
The only way to actually is the flash a custom rom onto the phone but it will void the warranty and you will lose all your stuff so if you still have warranty and this happens then i recommend just getting a new phone
my personal experience i would never buy a nexus phone ever again had 3,4,5 and all develop the same issue
@ICDT Technologies I am actually willing to send my phone
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This good technic i m verry happy
Mera phone bootloop nhi ho Raha
totally worked, thanks
3:25
After heating for 1min my phone complete dead no screen light totally dead
A) why is it factory resetted when it suddenly went into bootloop - one would expect it to be set up already....
B) why fixing the emmc when everyone reported it to be a issue with the perf cluster of the 808?
Smells fishy, sorry but this insults my mind...
This procedure takes advantage of thermal expansion and allows the phone to work temporarily to recover data. You are correct that the eMMC is the problem and not the RAM chip. Thank you very much for you input. I am always looking to learn and expand my knowledge and abilities
@@ICDTTechnologies not trying to troll you here but I didn't say anything about the RAM nor the EMMC, it's commonly known that the performance cluster of snapdragon 808 (or the soldering of the chip) is the problem, that's why the software-sided solution of a modded boot image works, it disables the 2 performance cores and leaves only the 4 other cores of the CPU enabled - that's why I don't understand your approach to the problem and I'm still wondering why the device is resetted if it unexpectedly felt into bootloop, the bootlooping doesn't factory reset the system, this does not make sense at all....
@@samhausmann1479 This devise did not factory reset. This belonged to a French doctor who reported that all of his data was recovered successfully by this procedure and that the device functioned for 3 weeks after the recovery. We also offer the 4 core kernel installation. I know you are not trolling and I grately appreciate your comments.
@@ICDTTechnologies thanks for understanding that I'm honestly interested! But if you check the end of the video you posted it clearly shows a reseted device, this welcome screen only appears on very first start up, also this SIM screen and the encryption password is also missing - this is by no means a "used" device, in fact it shows all signs of being factory resetted, hence my doubts, as this is "the proof" that the device was successfully repaired, it however shows the absolute opposite, I'm also wondering how you diagnose the issue, how you determine if EMMC, RAM, or CPU (perf cluster)? Not meant to be disrespectful but this whole video raises more questions than it actually answers, I have serious doubts on it being legit, like it being a kind of PR stunt!
works for 2 days then no go