Debate: Bitcoin vs Gold with Anthony Scaramucci and Peter Schiff

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  • Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024
  • This debate is a part of Intelligence Squared Crypto a new series from Intelligence Squared debating the rise of cryptocurrency and future of money.
    Since the world economy was plunged into crisis due to COVID-19 many economists have predicted a period of great instability. In normal times, investors would seek to hedge against volatility by buying gold. But this time, some are putting their money elsewhere - into #Bitcoin and other digital assets. And that raises a fundamental question: will Bitcoin or #gold be the trusted store of value and asset of the future in a time of rising #inflation?
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  • @Mista_Awesomeness
    @Mista_Awesomeness 3 года назад +178

    Peter literally has Intelligence coming through his forehead

    • @ryanunknown4181
      @ryanunknown4181 3 года назад +10

      I really don’t think you are kissing ass. He is crazy smart. Very clear.

    • @michaelric3540
      @michaelric3540 3 года назад +2

      Ha!

    • @moonovermiami9787
      @moonovermiami9787 3 года назад +4

      Mooch is now trying to mooch Schiff audience... to grab customers for the NWO. I'm not buying.

    • @hellenjoyer9406
      @hellenjoyer9406 3 года назад +3

      Ashkenazi jew

    • @justa8419
      @justa8419 3 года назад +1

      I see intelligence squared

  • @abeaboud272
    @abeaboud272 3 года назад +155

    Schiff knows his stuff inside and out, but Scaramucci... well, things went over his head it seemed. Honestly, his claim that we're the last industrial country that still has "white dead males" on its currency (not even five minutes into the whole thing) just killed it for me. He needs to get out more.

    • @muddyriverdogz
      @muddyriverdogz 3 года назад +18

      He should put a black dead male on a picture of BTC.

    • @NGC-gu6dz
      @NGC-gu6dz 3 года назад +7

      Korea has Koreans from past dynasties on their currency. China has Mao. Japan has dead Japanese males. Countries put historical figures on money. I was shocked to discovery white men dominate the founding and development of the United States. And they're dead!

    • @AY-qf4pg
      @AY-qf4pg 3 года назад +7

      @@NGC-gu6dz they're putting a dead black lady on one of the notes soon.
      How disrespectful is that, to ignore the significance and achievement of a person and just call them dead, insert skin color and insert gender.

    • @KK_818
      @KK_818 3 года назад +7

      Ditto. Can we have a discussion about anything without the stupid virtue signaling? Smh

    • @Bonescratcher
      @Bonescratcher 3 года назад +1

      Well one of them has been right for the past ten years while the other one has been wrong

  • @oozieligus
    @oozieligus 3 года назад +186

    Scaramucci lost me at "dead white men".

    • @nyceyes
      @nyceyes 3 года назад +28

      Same here. Virtue signalling. Then later, he blames the Boomer generation for everything bad. Seriously? The generation that had the rug pulled out from under them by likes of Kissinger, Zbigniew Brzezinski, etc. in a decades managed decline? No wonder he lost this debate.

    • @RJN4444
      @RJN4444 3 года назад +25

      They’re called the Founding Fathers

    • @awakentotruthmichaelsmith4698
      @awakentotruthmichaelsmith4698 3 года назад +12

      I have nothing against putting a black mam or woman on the US currency. I don’t want the founding fathers to be taken away, or any of the other “dead white men.”
      I think it honors them to add great American contributors of color. However, does Africa have white men? Does Mexico have Europeans on their money?
      Yet, it’s only the face baiting leftist that obsess over these kind of things.

    • @milbo007
      @milbo007 3 года назад +7

      Those dead white men are only the founding fathers of the most powerful nation in history

    • @joedoe2407
      @joedoe2407 3 года назад +5

      he missed to underline that they were also *straight* white men :-)

  • @Al-yf7tm
    @Al-yf7tm 3 года назад +53

    They should have had Schiff argue bitcoin and Scarramuch argue for gold - Schiff still would have won...

    • @hubblebublumbubwub5215
      @hubblebublumbubwub5215 3 года назад +2

      I'd REALLY like to see this

    • @MacroAnarchy
      @MacroAnarchy 3 года назад +2

      Yup, probably true, Schiff knows his opponents arguments just like his own. One of the last real debaters out there.

    • @Cokie907
      @Cokie907 3 года назад +1

      That's brilliant! I'd love to see it.

    • @bahmak2003
      @bahmak2003 3 года назад +2

      Schiff has been debating bitcoin since it was under 100usd. Now that bitcoin is is over 40k usd it’s very clear Schiff is winning the hearts and pockets of investors!😂😂😂🤣

  • @Cokie907
    @Cokie907 3 года назад +93

    Peter is to intellectual firepower what Chuck Norris is to kicking tail.

    • @danielacaster110
      @danielacaster110 3 года назад

      Too master ba tory 👎

    • @Cokie907
      @Cokie907 3 года назад

      @@danielacaster110 I don't get it. Is that something homosexual? 😂

    • @danielacaster110
      @danielacaster110 3 года назад

      @@Cokie907 no you are beating your own meat thinking of Peter schiff and it shows

  • @l-esprit_de_l-ouest
    @l-esprit_de_l-ouest 3 года назад +58

    Did that guy just said woke silly stuff about white faces printed dollars ? 😂

    • @christopherhernandez3909
      @christopherhernandez3909 3 года назад

      It should be animals/landscapes on money not faces. It’s just poor judgment.

    • @AY-vi2ld
      @AY-vi2ld 3 года назад +8

      @@christopherhernandez3909 huh?
      Most coins have monarchs, emperors and rulers on them.
      America chose the men that founded the nation and made it great.

    • @andybay2669
      @andybay2669 3 года назад

      @@AY-vi2ld Founded? Yea they "founded" it alright.

    • @Sinha010
      @Sinha010 3 года назад +4

      @@andybay2669 Yes. So what are you saying?

  • @cassandra5390
    @cassandra5390 3 года назад +48

    "Our identities ARE GRANTED TO US BY THE GOVERNMENT". - Smucchi
    THAT is where you lost me completely.

    • @Hibernial
      @Hibernial 3 года назад

      @@chadwickfairbanks Part of the weird issue with crypto scene are the attention seeking grifters spoiling things, and turning people away.

    • @sten260
      @sten260 3 года назад +4

      he talks a bunch of nothing, speculating about future and all that nonsense, doesn't mean anything. Peter just talks facts and common sense that's why he won the debate

    • @acali18
      @acali18 3 года назад +3

      @@sten260 the bitcoin arguments are always the same… “more people will buy it so better buy it now” . Sounds familiar

    • @hendricusderuijter9671
      @hendricusderuijter9671 3 года назад +2

      he's still right though, your passport is assigned to your by government at the date of your birth. they own your identity

    • @mydadletsmeshootatcats6754
      @mydadletsmeshootatcats6754 3 года назад +1

      @@chadwickfairbanks Yep, he's just a shill. I'm getting strong sociopath vibes off him. Not unlike Jordan Belfort. He probably knows that Peter is right but just wants to profit from the crypto hype.

  • @jbwentworthe6082
    @jbwentworthe6082 3 года назад +36

    "Value" in the moment does not equal a "store of value". FB and AMZN will be gone one day. Gold is here to stay, an indestructable element.

    • @martinlutherkingjr.5582
      @martinlutherkingjr.5582 3 года назад +4

      Humans will also be gone so how does it matter what people buy

    • @pablo369
      @pablo369 3 года назад +4

      The problem here is your stock portfolio can be seized at any moment. Do you really own the stock if it can be taken from you? You could say that gold in your possession cannot be taken from you, which is true, as long as you can defend it properly, but try boarding a plane and let me know how that works out for you. Bitcoin is the only asset in the world that if you hold it, no one can take it from you. You can store it in your brain, which is even better than storing it under your bed

    • @HughesEnterprises
      @HughesEnterprises 3 года назад +6

      @@pablo369 Except to redeem it you need access to electricity, a computer, and an internet connection without a governmental firewall.

    • @pablo369
      @pablo369 3 года назад +3

      @@HughesEnterprises I'd rather deal with that than deal with gold that has been taken over by a cartel and is now highly manipulated and you have to rely on third parties to verify the authenticity

    • @pablo369
      @pablo369 3 года назад +1

      @@chadwickfairbanks and that right there is the problem. Only wealthy people can escape. You don't give a fuck about grandma or anyone else who has to deal with customs and border patrol, which is why they will be using bitcoin. Gold is a massive failure in this regard, as are you

  • @coffeyjjj
    @coffeyjjj 3 года назад +22

    McElvoy needs to talk about 90% less.

  • @bahamaslive
    @bahamaslive 3 года назад +19

    I believe Anthony had his ass handed to him ..

  • @Intelligence-Squared
    @Intelligence-Squared 3 года назад +47

    A great debate from Peter and Anthony. Let's see if Michael Saylor takes up the offer to be your next opponent!

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      @mhfinreplied6689 3 года назад

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    • @mhfinreplied6689
      @mhfinreplied6689 3 года назад

      Hit me up directly for further assistance on crypto earning....

    • @lukaspasak7339
      @lukaspasak7339 3 года назад +2

      Lol he’s too busy doing crack

    • @bahmak2003
      @bahmak2003 3 года назад

      Lol Peter schiff will be a laughing stock! 😂😂😂

    • @lukaspasak7339
      @lukaspasak7339 3 года назад

      @@bahmak2003 and all youtube hodlers will be billionaires😂😂😂

  • @MW-eh1sz
    @MW-eh1sz 3 года назад +101

    Even when he is trying his best to be serious, thoughtful and polite, Scaramucci comes across as such a sleazy, untrustworthy individual.

    • @clarkwatson3217
      @clarkwatson3217 3 года назад +10

      Lol so true. A democrat corporate

    • @greeneyes7392
      @greeneyes7392 3 года назад +2

      Hmmm....perhaps...I don’t know him well...I will certainly say he would be an excellent mercenary (but better be sure you pay him well, cause he looks the type to take higher offers)

    • @vladav313
      @vladav313 3 года назад +2

      @@greeneyes7392 haha wow, one of the most elegant ways of saying 'Fuck you' without actually saying it I've ever heard. Let me borrow that one.

    • @Misael8924
      @Misael8924 3 года назад +2

      Real Musical Instruments over Electronic any day.
      Scaramucci gives a bad name to Italian's. By promoting it/rush this pase of Control. While Profiting from it. And It's Contact Tracing Funcionality Electronically. He's doing his part. While Yet, the 1% have all, if not all the Physical Wealth, by Steeling it from the Nations. Cloud Base Society. At the End... Everything will be Worthless, except you're Soul.

    • @leakingfaucet
      @leakingfaucet 3 года назад +7

      Anyone who agrees with Cathie Wood can't be trusted

  • @robichard
    @robichard 3 года назад +36

    Moderator speaks too much fluff and interrupts just when valid points are being made. She should talk less and moderate more ensuring that each participant has the opportunity to make their case in full on each issue. She is unbelievably annoying !

    • @markdarling4487
      @markdarling4487 3 года назад +2

      You got that right! Seems that the moderator likes the sound of her own voice too much.

    • @bar8665
      @bar8665 3 года назад +1

      Mark got it spot on. Lot of British love hearing themselves

    • @b4ph0m3tdk9
      @b4ph0m3tdk9 3 года назад

      And her mic level was way too high in comparison to the guests, very annoying in deed.

  • @zaazoo4886
    @zaazoo4886 3 года назад +40

    Shiff always getting double teamed and interrupted but decisively winning debates like a boss.

    • @bahmak2003
      @bahmak2003 3 года назад

      Schiff have been debating against bitcoin when it’s price is under 100usd. Now that’s Bitcoin price is over 40k usd it’s very clear that Peter Schiff is winning the mind, heart, and pockets of investors! 😂😂😂

    • @carlmarston1687
      @carlmarston1687 Год назад

      @@bahmak2003Howd that work out for you

  • @kevinr8431
    @kevinr8431 3 года назад +20

    Did you notice how Anthony ended? He said he’s going to buy more Bitcoin. Right there shows his true color - his interest is getting you to buy more.

    • @user-qx9pk4yg6t
      @user-qx9pk4yg6t 3 года назад +4

      Like Peter will buy more gold 🤷🏼‍♂️

    • @rogerburn5132
      @rogerburn5132 3 года назад

      Mr Charles Ponzi would have been proud of Bitcoin

  • @vernondecker9532
    @vernondecker9532 3 года назад +26

    Just getting started but Peter's smile tells me he's gonna devour this guy.
    And that's what I think also.
    40 min Peter as he thought and I also decimated the challenger.

    • @Andrew_2414
      @Andrew_2414 3 года назад

      He lost the debate.

    • @fluffyisyermom7631
      @fluffyisyermom7631 3 года назад +3

      @@Andrew_2414 we know whose holding bitcoin lol

    • @Andrew_2414
      @Andrew_2414 3 года назад

      @@fluffyisyermom7631 Yea: me, over 100 million other people, hedge funds, private companies, public companies, Fidelity, Black Rock, and a foreign government.

    • @vernondecker9532
      @vernondecker9532 3 года назад +2

      @@Andrew_2414 lots people believe socialism is better also until reality sets in.

    • @Andrew_2414
      @Andrew_2414 3 года назад

      @@vernondecker9532 Fiat currency is more similar to socialism than is Bitcoin. Nobody controls the supply of Bitcoin--it is set in stone, so to speak.
      Gold will never be a technology, it will always be a metal. Our technologically advanced society cannot perform global commerce using heavy metals, and if we go back to using bank notes that are "backed" by gold then we'll just end up back to where we started and inevitably repeat the 1971 Nixon shock all over again.
      When you give people the power to produce money, or money substitutes, at no cost... they will!

  • @SimplyEconomics
    @SimplyEconomics 3 года назад +25

    Actually already saw this one on their channel. I think he’s a pretty smart guy, but your arguments are just way better Peter.

    • @bahmak2003
      @bahmak2003 3 года назад

      Lol way better at what?😂😂😂

    • @plastifiedmetal5682
      @plastifiedmetal5682 3 года назад

      @@bahmak2003 the arguments are better. There no "at what" that applies here..

    • @bahmak2003
      @bahmak2003 3 года назад

      @@plastifiedmetal5682 what Schiff arguments that are better?😂😂😂

  • @capodeleone
    @capodeleone 3 года назад +18

    This lady is disturbing the debate… please go out and let them debate…

  • @jeddmohlenkamp6870
    @jeddmohlenkamp6870 3 года назад +32

    Bitcoin is not a hard asset.. it's a penny stock at best

    • @Andrew_2414
      @Andrew_2414 3 года назад +5

      When is the last time you saw a penny stock worth 1 trillion dollars? Use your brain.

    • @DB-gf5gu
      @DB-gf5gu 3 года назад +1

      BTC is a giant scam,. BSV is the original Bitcoin that scales and actually works.

    • @uraldamasis6887
      @uraldamasis6887 3 года назад +2

      @@DB-gf5gu BSV is a scam and the network has literally zero security. It could disappear overnight.

    • @DB-gf5gu
      @DB-gf5gu 3 года назад

      @@uraldamasis6887 wanna bet?

    • @Andrew_2414
      @Andrew_2414 3 года назад

      @@adidabax6809 It's worth less than the Bitcoin network.

  • @borisdavidovich3742
    @borisdavidovich3742 3 года назад +65

    The guy's tense face vs Peter's relaxed...tells much...

    • @rollingthunder6406
      @rollingthunder6406 3 года назад +5

      Peter enjoys this.

    • @leroyjones6170
      @leroyjones6170 3 года назад

      Peter is this

    • @jasonpost7538
      @jasonpost7538 3 года назад

      Peter has nothing to hide

    • @vertitis
      @vertitis 3 года назад

      He looked so personally offended when the poll didn't favour his... view.

    • @bahmak2003
      @bahmak2003 3 года назад

      Lol Peter have been debating Bitcoin since it was under 100usd! Now Bitcoin is at 40k usd. Clearly Peter is winning the mind of investors on every debate!😂😂😂

  • @pkl8811
    @pkl8811 3 года назад +25

    GOLD.EVERY.TIME.

    • @blakemcclaren
      @blakemcclaren 3 года назад +2

      what % of remittance payments to EL SALVADOR are in gold vs btc vs USD?? And in 2 years, what do you think the %s will be???

    • @martinlutherkingjr.5582
      @martinlutherkingjr.5582 3 года назад +1

      Not during digestion

  • @yjfoo23
    @yjfoo23 3 года назад +25

    Peter Schiff wins. Flawless victory!

  • @august4633
    @august4633 3 года назад +37

    I'm a believer in Bitcoin, but he lost me at the part about dead white men. We don't need brainwashed woke culture in this debate please...

    • @99.99
      @99.99 3 года назад

      @Nicholas P 😂

  • @alexanderpetrov7027
    @alexanderpetrov7027 3 года назад +39

    She's so annoying interrupting like this and she's clearly biased in favor of BTC

    • @jadenkutz
      @jadenkutz 3 года назад +2

      I totally agree

    • @psychoja
      @psychoja 3 года назад +4

      Actually, I think that she did good here.

    • @michaelqp
      @michaelqp 3 года назад +4

      The British tradition of moderation and journalism is more confrontational and oppositive. I think that's in play more than anything

    • @jerrydwyer9057
      @jerrydwyer9057 3 года назад +2

      She let her bias be known for sure. Could have been much worse.

    • @doubleuponbob3397
      @doubleuponbob3397 3 года назад

      She is also clearly biased in favor of BBC

  • @exzackt
    @exzackt 3 года назад +28

    The moderator is so rude, constantly interrupting. No one tuned in to listen to you cut off and interject, let them talk.

    • @fishjohn014
      @fishjohn014 3 года назад

      Agreed, they should have muted her and this Italian poser....

  • @coimbralaw
    @coimbralaw 3 года назад +2

    I like the Mooch because he hates Trump but he’s insane to think Bitcoin is anything but tulipomania. Schiff rhetorically wiped the floor with him.

  • @good2goskee
    @good2goskee 3 года назад +3

    The moderator is 100% annoying...
    Ultimately, I think Anthony Scaramucci has a Western lens in understanding money which fails him. Different cultural lenses (mainly from the East) and history of money (history of gold/silver) makes the case for BTC weaker. The history and cultural universality value is definitely gold and maybe BTC. But, the tactile aspect of gold separates it from BTC. That tangible aspect of gold adds another layer of value. Having a digital currency backed by gold or a basket of strategic commodities is better than straight BTC, but but but..... digital means big brother can always watch= not cool
    Also, all human knowledge doubles every 13 months. It is arrogant to think humans will not find a better crypto tech than BTC at some point.
    Reality is.... it better for our freedom to have gold, BTC, anchored dollars, and as many exchange mediums as possible. Alternatives are good.

  • @jerrydwyer9057
    @jerrydwyer9057 3 года назад +8

    Mooch is right that the network is going to stick around (much longer than btc) because it can track every grain, transaction, and asset very easily for the bankers.

  • @cap007a1
    @cap007a1 3 года назад +45

    Are Anthony's books really organized by color?

  • @michaeloebiye
    @michaeloebiye 3 года назад +1

    LOLOL....12:50 ...."....at the end of the day, at least you had a flower"

  • @palookakj6622
    @palookakj6622 3 года назад +36

    Gold: the original decentralized monetary system.

    • @freegender930
      @freegender930 3 года назад

      It's happened once and it will happen again . World Banks flood the mark with gold to crash the the value to bring back the value of the dollar
      🌎 🏦 ⬇️ 🪙 ☝️💵

    • @palookakj6622
      @palookakj6622 3 года назад

      @@ivo9328
      Not sure I follow. Please elaborate

    • @palookakj6622
      @palookakj6622 3 года назад

      @@freegender930
      Sounds like a good buying opportunity. Where do the banks get all that gold? There isn't an unlimited supply, and they sure as hell aren't digging it out of the ground

    • @freegender930
      @freegender930 3 года назад

      @@palookakj6622 they have been buying it for decades. and now they have such a big supply. That they can crash the gold prices at any time. After they crash the gold prices people buy a bunch of gold because it's so cheap and they can get the dollars back from the people to repeat the cycle.

    • @palookakj6622
      @palookakj6622 3 года назад

      @@freegender930
      Seems like that wouldn't last long. You say they crash gold to have a strong dollar, and then people using a strong dollar get the gold which then makes the dollar weak (i.e. worth less gold). So, the banks are selling low and buying high?

  • @tjhunter3288
    @tjhunter3288 3 года назад +20

    Wish she would've just let the two of you talk. You both were respectful and reasonable but she mismanaged the topics to create a convoluted interview.

  • @Ryan-um5xe
    @Ryan-um5xe 3 года назад +21

    Could do without the white bashing from scaramucci, what does their race have to do with anything?

    • @MilanElan
      @MilanElan 3 года назад +3

      He hates himself

    • @huemann7637
      @huemann7637 3 года назад +4

      @@MilanElan can you blame him?

    • @CyrusVatankhah
      @CyrusVatankhah 3 года назад

      riding the left's wave

    • @rogerburn5132
      @rogerburn5132 3 года назад

      Politicaly corekt Nothing more I em surprised they didn't put some women Face on the dollar to represent today days.

  • @00000vi
    @00000vi 3 года назад +4

    Peter thanks for speaking truth. After watching this video. Only one word for you. RESPECT

  • @Heklasfire
    @Heklasfire 3 года назад +6

    Great debate. Nice job to you all.
    Great points Anthony!
    But
    Pete won!

  • @ConsciousOne369
    @ConsciousOne369 3 года назад +5

    Peter for the win!

    • @Andrew_2414
      @Andrew_2414 3 года назад

      Peter Schiff lost the debate.

  • @azncs11
    @azncs11 3 года назад +11

    Anthony emphasizes that he got fired from the White House, yet he got hired back to be a shill

  • @Openhousetexas
    @Openhousetexas 3 года назад +3

    This was not so much a match on intelligence but a match in facts and in my opinion Peter blew this debate out of the water.

  • @ag47phoenix14
    @ag47phoenix14 3 года назад +9

    Peter is wrong about one thing, gold is NOT the most useful metal on earth, Silver is!!! In fact, silver has the most uses out of all the other precious metals combine!! If we wake up tomorrow and there are no more gold we would be ok without it! But if we wake up and there are no more silver, our world would probably look like the early 1900s. Not the modern world that it is today without silver.

    • @cosmosaic8117
      @cosmosaic8117 3 года назад +1

      Yup...the true debate is Silver vs. Gold, and I prefer Silver. But other than that I agree with Schiff on everything. However, the one thing Gold has over Silver is that it never tarnishes even under the Ocean over thousands of years. So keep that in mind. But I still prefer Silver because it has so many uses. BUT...Gold is more monetarily stable because it has less industrial uses, and remains a Store of Value because it does have SOME uses as a Commodity.
      In other words, Silver vs. Gold is the true debate. Bitcoin is irrelevant.

    • @ag47phoenix14
      @ag47phoenix14 3 года назад +2

      @@cosmosaic8117 totally agree with there!!!

    • @Soulmodulation
      @Soulmodulation 2 года назад

      @@cosmosaic8117 One benefit to gold is the wealth density - much easier to move around than a bunch of silver. Gold is also found in our Thymus gland (which strengthens the immune system) and gold micro particles raise testosterone levels. I am still very bullish on silver tho; I think it will have problems appreciating compared to gold, because gold is hoarded, and silver has historically been for day to day transactions

  • @God-w-
    @God-w- 3 года назад +19

    This moderator is clearly invested in bitcoin.

  • @StoicBarbarian
    @StoicBarbarian 3 года назад +4

    "I thought you were already all in?" Lmao

  • @moonovermiami9787
    @moonovermiami9787 3 года назад +11

    LOL! OMG! Bitcoin is tracked! Mooch: "Gold is a representation of value" , "Bitcoin doesn't need to go through other parties" ... Mooch is a joke.

    • @moonovermiami9787
      @moonovermiami9787 3 года назад +1

      @@chadwickfairbanks The website hijacks for ransoms are done by the FBI & CIA (fr offshore).

    • @panzervalkyrie9299
      @panzervalkyrie9299 3 года назад +2

      Gold is Money ..Bitcoin is digital fiat nearly unlimited supply of SatoshiZs and one of 10500 Cryptos.. I’m out!

  • @Chuculainn9
    @Chuculainn9 3 года назад +5

    Congrats Peter!

  • @SaxoEnergy
    @SaxoEnergy 3 года назад +5

    Really informative from both but schiff was more to the point for me

  • @makarenkoa
    @makarenkoa 3 года назад +9

    Moderator was too impudent, got in the way of discussion

  • @ivanpadilla7820
    @ivanpadilla7820 3 года назад +1

    Peter I'm a millennial and totally agree with everything you said. I'm a pro gold and silver and I believe there's no other better Commodity than precious metals to fight against inflation. Also you won this debate by far.

  • @jankone19
    @jankone19 3 года назад +7

    Great debate, but that woman is so annoying.

    • @nicosmind3
      @nicosmind3 3 года назад +1

      A bit annoying but I've seen much worse

  • @b4ph0m3tdk9
    @b4ph0m3tdk9 3 года назад +1

    Guest's mic's level way down and moderaters mic level cranked up. That was highly irritating. Please fix this in post next time.

  • @AbdulRahman-ARM
    @AbdulRahman-ARM 3 года назад +6

    Wow 😯! That was a strong 💪🏾 opening truth for Mr. Peter .

  • @martinlutherkingjr.5582
    @martinlutherkingjr.5582 3 года назад +1

    Peter + Bitcoin at…
    $10: It’s a scam
    $30: This bubble won’t bounce back
    $100: This is definitely a bubble
    $200: It’s gonna pop soon, buy gold!
    $400: Well this is gonna crash so hard
    $1200: No financial institutions will buy this scam
    $3000: Just because Bitcoin’s marketcap is way bigger than silver doesn’t mean it ain’t a bubble
    $6000: Bitcoin’s about to crash
    $20,000: This is the top! It will never be breached!
    $30,000: Watch as this bubble goes back under $20,000
    $50,000: ….
    $65,000: …

    • @pablosabhlok
      @pablosabhlok 2 года назад

      When the Fed raises interest rates to normal levels, Bitcoin will crash. Or do you not realize that low interest rates create bubbles?

  • @puddleglum5610
    @puddleglum5610 3 года назад +6

    This moderator was terrible. Other than that, great interview.

    • @themountain3461
      @themountain3461 3 года назад

      A moderator implies it was a debate, not an interview

  • @seekingsolutions7078
    @seekingsolutions7078 3 года назад +2

    What is Bitcoin backed up with.
    “A network of people.”
    “I can’t withdrawal a network of people.”
    Me: 🤣😂🤣😂

  • @troymccully
    @troymccully 3 года назад +8

    We live in fiat delusion land, soon it will be digital zombie land🤔

  • @jodysin7
    @jodysin7 3 года назад +1

    Unfortunately, most people have never heard of or will even take 5 minutes to research tulip mania. Bitcoin is just another stock and will eventually be nothing.

  • @edwarddiaz1130
    @edwarddiaz1130 3 года назад +5

    If gold has financial value, why isnt the continent of Asia the wealthiest to exist. Technically those nations possess the most gold in the world, yet ones like India have the most poverty and the least access to the global wealth. Gold isnt money, its an element that will be mostly used for industrial purposes in the near future. No need to hold gold, when it isnt fungible, because it can be counterfeited, it isnt divisible in real world use, because the average person cant break 1/10 ounce from their gold bar to purchase goods, it isnt easily transportable, because you cant send 1 mil in gold to purchase a, lets say a home, on the other side of the planet, by conventional means. In other words, bitcoin and crypto is succeeding where gold has failed. BOOM!!!

    • @IBIRIEAIK91
      @IBIRIEAIK91 3 года назад +1

      In the event of technology failing All wealth is gone Boom

  • @mrg7407
    @mrg7407 3 года назад +2

    Words Mean Things. Rush Limbaugh Always said that. In 2021 Words mean whatever you want them to mean.
    Peter understands that Words Mean Things.

  • @blackbeardgoatjr2434
    @blackbeardgoatjr2434 3 года назад +9

    Does anybody else feel embarrassed for those who defend bitcoin? Especially against Peter Schiff lol

    • @panzervalkyrie9299
      @panzervalkyrie9299 3 года назад +1

      lol it’s no contest .. champion heavyweight vs total novice!

    • @qlus
      @qlus 3 года назад

      I'll defend it based on the money to be made from it... Fuck the fundamentals

  • @timk8830
    @timk8830 3 года назад +2

    Peter wins again as usual. He is so sharp on so many issues. I think we have to thank his Dad for this.

  • @kirkworthley3221
    @kirkworthley3221 3 года назад +3

    I hear the Winkelvi use the same "if we capture a meteor that has gold in it..." What a silly argument. Peter's counter that BTC is technology and technology is always improving is much more compelling.

    • @walden6272
      @walden6272 3 года назад +1

      Technologies also gets outdated and discarded for better technologies. Something Bitcoin fanatics don't even realize.

  • @diegomorales8616
    @diegomorales8616 3 года назад +6

    Digital fiat is still fiat.

  • @jamesgregory1144
    @jamesgregory1144 3 года назад +5

    2:44 To everyone they are friends with each other but these are the 2 best guys and the debate was destroyed by that moderator you need to have a open debate.

  • @vertitis
    @vertitis 3 года назад +1

    It felt obvious that Scaramucci did not understand what Peter was talking about when he
    made an argument that Peter had already addressed. It was almost like he thought that
    repeating the same points would make it true. I would never have had the patience that Peter has.
    Awesome as always Peter! :-)

  • @bbustin1290
    @bbustin1290 3 года назад +15

    The. “Technology” used for bitcoin and cryptos would not exist without networks that are created with the elements on the periodic chart. Ie gold , silver etc etc. way ahead of you there... speaks as if cryptos are on the periodic chart

    • @rchicks22
      @rchicks22 3 года назад +1

      That’s a great point. Another argument I’ve been thinking about lately is that if you removed Bitcoin entirely, the world wouldn’t lose anything. Other crypto coins & networks could fill any void it left behind within months. If you remove gold entirely from the Earth, then we would lose a very valuable metals. Sure, silver, platinum, and other metals could substitute for gold, but they would not be nearly as effective. The world would be poorer without gold.

  • @antoinesims4119
    @antoinesims4119 3 года назад

    next time we should put Peter Schiff vs. Dave Ramsey debate on gold.

  • @chriseustace9734
    @chriseustace9734 3 года назад +4

    Anthony focused upon the Dollar when the debate was about gold vs Bitcoin, so he lost his opportunity to win.

  • @pixelmartyr8532
    @pixelmartyr8532 3 года назад +1

    All of the infrastructure used to mine bitcoin requires rare earth minerals. It's no less environmentally damaging than gold mining.

    • @walden6272
      @walden6272 3 года назад +1

      Gold doesn't have to be mine over and over and over again consuming resources and energy. Once gold is mined it's out in a form of bars, coins, or jewelry or other usages. And can be re-used indefinitely.

  • @ms863
    @ms863 3 года назад +4

    - 12:28
    Chain letter
    Peter is a funny guy

  • @MichaelJohnson-
    @MichaelJohnson- 3 года назад

    "@ least with a tulip, at the end of the day you have a flower" lol.

  • @tonydalton6756
    @tonydalton6756 3 года назад +4

    Shot down in flames, well done Peter. "Intellectual odds" Lol
    Maybe we need a Peter coin, limited at only 100. (Patent pending) Haha

  • @andychim1972
    @andychim1972 3 года назад +1

    Well done Peter. That was the most convincing facts you have presented yet.

    • @bahmak2003
      @bahmak2003 3 года назад

      What facts?😂😂😂

  • @mediumrare377
    @mediumrare377 3 года назад +4

    Peter for the win, (KO) First Round! Mismatch! Foreman VS Frazier!!!!🤣

  • @godpilled9077
    @godpilled9077 3 года назад +2

    This is the content I subbed for. FIGHT!

  • @fireman1226576
    @fireman1226576 3 года назад +3

    "the reason that gold is a store of value is because you store the value of the metal gold"

  • @janeyar2428
    @janeyar2428 3 года назад +1

    GREAT JOB PETER!! KILLED IT!! IT REALLY DOESN'T TAKE A SMART PERSON TO DETERMINE THAT GOLD IS BETTER. IF YOU'RE HAVING TO BE ALL NERDY AND USE TECHNOLOGY, THEN YOU AREN'T THAT BRIGHT!!!!! KISS!!!

  • @jasonpost7538
    @jasonpost7538 3 года назад +8

    Bitcoin is a 100% depended on the USD you purchased the Bitcoin in USD and when you sell you are given USD

    • @christopherhernandez3909
      @christopherhernandez3909 3 года назад +1

      Exactly lol

    • @mycovision3272
      @mycovision3272 3 года назад +1

      ITts a trap " lol

    • @Atem_S.
      @Atem_S. 3 года назад +2

      Actually Bitcoin is tied to Tether that is tie to the USD... And Tethers are being created out of thin air and block any information you request. Cofeezilla has ben trying for weeks and keeps getting rejected! Guess free access of information act doesn't apply here!

    • @uraldamasis6887
      @uraldamasis6887 3 года назад +1

      The same is literally true about gold, so you just defeated whatever argument you were trying to make.

    • @jasonpost7538
      @jasonpost7538 3 года назад +2

      @@uraldamasis6887 it's literally not the same when I can trade physical gold for another physical commodity or a service literally that's real life

  • @peterbarrett5496
    @peterbarrett5496 3 года назад +1

    Rekt. The mooch thought he was in a new investors meeting for bitcoin. He should have known that Peter is operating at a higher level when debating other bitcoiners, he already has arguments for all mooches points from years ago

  • @DavidFox
    @DavidFox 3 года назад +3

    Peter just destroyed that fool LMAO

    • @martinlutherkingjr.5582
      @martinlutherkingjr.5582 3 года назад +1

      But even still, he’s wrong about Bitcoin.

    • @DavidFox
      @DavidFox 3 года назад +2

      @@martinlutherkingjr.5582 I disagree...I think he's spot on...

  • @filiperosario1078
    @filiperosario1078 2 года назад

    I didn't see Anthony's arguments being disproven. I saw a lack of vision from Peter. But the main take away at least was having Peter stating at which point he will fold to bitcoin. I thought it would be harder. I also enjoyed someone arguing in the favor of bitcoin on its adoption and potential, instead of the price. Price is just a consequence, but the main take away is adoption

  • @whoyatoya
    @whoyatoya 3 года назад +2

    BLAH BLAH BLAH --- Schiffty needs some new material. Same old rhetoric over and over. Every debate is exactly the same with Schiffty. He's simply memorized the same unless lip service. Once again Schiffty gets his ass handed to him.
    Bitcoin for the win...

  • @X_StreamClipz10
    @X_StreamClipz10 3 года назад

    Great debate Peter, truly appreciate the upload to your channel otherwise I would have missed it! I would like to respectively mention you are 1 of very few of my mentors, you cover EVERY angle I continue to forget being a crypto enthusiast/maximalist...mark it down as complacency I guess, but you happen to be the ONLY one covering the downsides & bringing a strong argument as to why gold is sound over bitcoin (from which I didn't take your advice lightly...I've been diversifying those bitcoin profits to gold, something I've NEVER owned before bitcoin so thank-you!). Duly noted there are however arguments on both sides, crypto has potential & I think you know it..is it overvalued? Maybe...which is why you carry a VERY large influence as a mentor to me because of your courageousness & "real" knowing/understanding of downsides/risks along with true/real world value. On another note, it also gives me just as much argument as to why I do invest in crypto. Either way your advice does not go un-noticed & you'll be right either way whether bitcoin goes to the moon or not...you can't buy & flash off bitcoin watches/jewelry...but you can buy 'real gold' ones with it! Touché, blessings from Australia!

  • @ThomasThomas-xg9vk
    @ThomasThomas-xg9vk 3 года назад +10

    "6 minutes... that's almost as long as my white house career." I miss the mooch already.

  • @christanharper
    @christanharper 3 года назад +2

    Keep in mind, Peter Schiff doesn't understand crypto well, and has been wrong about every prediction he has made about bitcoin. I would suggest to listen to him talking about anything but crypto, he knows his stuff elsewhere.

  • @richardmather7561
    @richardmather7561 3 года назад +4

    Could just buy both , I feel both have value . Gold has timeless value , Bitcoin more cutting edge . No the less good luck to all.

  • @AlexeyVedernikov
    @AlexeyVedernikov 3 года назад +1

    Surprisingly civilized discussion 👏🏻👏🏼👏🏾

  • @mixmastermaverick3336
    @mixmastermaverick3336 3 года назад +5

    I find in all these "debates" that the Bitcoiners simply repeat the properties of Bitcoin (scarce, decentralised, etc.) rather than making any actual argument about why it's better than gold/fiat.

    • @user-qx9pk4yg6t
      @user-qx9pk4yg6t 3 года назад

      Weeell... those are pretty gold arguments 😅

    • @user-qx9pk4yg6t
      @user-qx9pk4yg6t 3 года назад

      Good*

    • @mixmastermaverick3336
      @mixmastermaverick3336 3 года назад

      @@user-qx9pk4yg6t not really. It's not hard to come up with a system that outperforms another system in arbitrary dimensions. That doesn't mean the system you came up with is useful or better or will be adopted etc.

    • @user-qx9pk4yg6t
      @user-qx9pk4yg6t 3 года назад

      @@mixmastermaverick3336 Well it's been adopted faster that the internet. I'm not going to debate over gold because I'm a proponent of it but thinking that for the rest of our lifetime gold will be the only option it seems pretty foolish. Bitcoin is a superior means of exchange in a world that is turning digital. There's a ton that I can say but it will take forever to write here. We didn't knew we needed smart phones to call somebody 20 years ago but then innovation happened and we are addicted to the convenience of having one. Having a trusless network that is a hybrid of a store of value and currency that is also highly liquid and you can split it easily is a convenience that we didn't knew we needed. Then you add the convenience of safe storage in the blockchain through a cold wallet that's accessible anywhere in the world is just plain elegant. A porfolio with a % in gold and BTC will be the new standard.

  • @mikhailutkin5910
    @mikhailutkin5910 3 года назад

    Bitcoin can’t be disrupted?! Imagine: it’s February 2021. You’re in Texas. Then the arctic storm comes and the power is out for days…

  • @mayne242
    @mayne242 3 года назад +3

    Mooch's ego was hit at the end there haha

  • @francoisschneegans8881
    @francoisschneegans8881 3 года назад

    I am surprise about how many people give the win of the debate to Peter. Peter is very knowledgeable, but he hasn't grown from his debates. I watched so many of them. Most of his arguments haven't changed even if they have been very efficiently counter-argued. Also, Peter argues IDEAS, the real world and the market, so far, says Peter is wrong. You talk about Scaramucci's customers... how about yours Peter? How is gold performing?

  • @jakesandstorm8329
    @jakesandstorm8329 3 года назад +3

    Do you think that Ethereum could be money since it actually has uses unlike Bitcoin(NFTs, smart contracts, etc)?

  • @FrostW1nd
    @FrostW1nd 3 года назад +1

    Beautifully done, thank you both of you, to be able to co-exist as friends even as ideas and believes diverge, I think it speaks volume of your true friendships. Thank you for making this public for us all peasants to see, fascinating talk.

  • @haroldloz2967
    @haroldloz2967 3 года назад +5

    I'll go to put 30% of my BTC position in physical gold. Good points Mr Schiff.

  • @shadahampton2528
    @shadahampton2528 3 года назад +1

    Peter won 👏

  • @greeneyes7392
    @greeneyes7392 3 года назад +3

    Peter - my money is on you. Having that said , Anthony Scaramuci is a talented and highly skilled presenter - hats off to you both

  • @erikolsen3017
    @erikolsen3017 3 года назад +1

    That was an excellent debate!

  • @awakentotruthmichaelsmith4698
    @awakentotruthmichaelsmith4698 3 года назад +3

    Peter Schiff Vs Scaramucchi? That’s like Pittsburgh Steelers playing a high school team, and Schiff is the Steelers

  • @brandonray4801
    @brandonray4801 3 года назад +1

    Peter got em imo. Nice debate over such an interesting/valuable topic of the times! 🔥

  • @thedeerslayer3247
    @thedeerslayer3247 3 года назад +5

    Peter is iconic!!! It's like he has a crystal ball....

    • @Andrew_2414
      @Andrew_2414 3 года назад +1

      Peter is one of the worst asset managers out there.

    • @BullsEye3333
      @BullsEye3333 3 года назад

      What on Earth are you talking about? Now that we have had an enormous global pandemic we can see how horrible Peter's major predictions has been all these years.
      1. Gold prices.
      Gold barely went up but nowhere near the 10, 15, 20 thousand he predicted. ruclips.net/video/99fjdbFy3So/видео.html In fact, the price of everything has skyrocketed except gold. He lies and tells his clients that gold is both a safe haven and you will make a huge return on it. Every investor knows that high returns only come with high risk and high volatility. On March 3, 2020 He even said you would be able to buy the entire Dow with just one ounce of gold. That will NEVER happen.
      2. Silver prices.
      Silver barely went up and nowhere near the new all time highs of $49.83 that he predicted. Here's Peter saying buy silver for the potential new highs way back on Oct 2, 2012: ruclips.net/video/uOuAdZcGzoo/видео.html Silver was $34.60 at the time.
      3. Gold standard.
      He predicted that we will go back to a gold standard but that is not even being considered. He even said it was inevitable. ruclips.net/video/ajmIWQLRfFM/видео.html We now know that they are working on a CBDC and not even considering a gold standard.
      4. Stock market.
      Nobody could be more wrong when it comes to the stock market. He has literally never been bullish on the stock market and it just keeps going up.
      5. Worthless crypto.
      Another thing that he predicted that will NEVER happen is bitcoin going to near $0. Bitcoin is here to stay and the price is going much higher. He even thinks all cryptocurrencies are worthless but obviously we have a brand new asset class to invest in. How do you miss an entire new asset class? He is obviously lying to his clients because he knows that crypto is vastly superior to metals. That is just flat out fraudulent financial advice.
      6. Worthless dollar.
      Another thing that he predicted that may never happen within the lifetime of his clients is the dollar becoming worthless. ruclips.net/video/6K9Jcar8VgY/видео.html That might happen but it will probably take decades and most of his clients will be dead before it happens. And if it does happen it won't be because people want gold. It will be because people want crypto instead of the dollar. And they won't be buying gold. They will be dumping gold and buying crypto.
      7. Interest rates.
      He said they would never raise them. Then they did and Peter said they're going to be doing QE4 not raising rates again. ruclips.net/video/aYQUiLnYp9I/видео.html But of course Peter was wrong again and they kept raising them 8 more times.
      8. Another housing bubble.
      He has been saying housing is in another bubble since at least May 2014. ruclips.net/video/hlkn5Ky5Z1Q/видео.html If you wanted to buy a home but listened to Peter and didn't buy, you'll never be able to get the home you wanted because home prices have skyrocketed and wages barely move up. You may even be stuck renting for the rest of your life.
      9. Recession soon.
      And according to Peter, there is always a recession right around the corner even when we're coming out of a recession.

    • @Andrew_2414
      @Andrew_2414 3 года назад +1

      @@BullsEye3333 Yup. Peter is a terrible asset manager. I probably out-performed him in my personal portfolio even without Bitcoin.

  • @joshuasmith2814
    @joshuasmith2814 3 года назад +1

    I like Peter but to say BTC has no value because there is nothing tangible means things like advice, idea, service would also not be able to hold value. And if that's the case is Euro Pacific offering their investment advice/services for free too?

  • @gdc8403
    @gdc8403 3 года назад +4

    BTC scarcity is a red herring since it can be created in any digital coin. The only advantage it has is the existing network - which will be subject to extreme regulation going forward since no powerful government and/or central bank is going to tolerate a competition for it's monopoly on the money supply.

  • @markhoward9743
    @markhoward9743 3 года назад +2

    What language was the host speaking? Anyone.