Without price this just isn't very useful. It's ranking a Koenigsegg in S tier and a Honda Civic in B tier. People are usually looking for the best bank for their buck panel, not the best panel or the cheapest panel. In the end we're trading money for electricity, so both price and efficacy of panel matter.
Qcells just announced they are spending $Billions on a new factory in the USA (Georgia) the factory will be completed at the end of 2024. Puts them high on my list !
I ended up buying the REC panels for my house. Total of 39 panels with Tesla Wall 3 batteries. We produce so much energy, I wished I had bought more batteries. However, I did invest in some Anker Batteries to use in my home to capture more inside so I keep more of my energy and not push it to the grid. The REC panels turned out to be a phenomenal investment for my house.
Do you not have the Q.cells Q.Tron panels in the US? I've got them on my house and they are certainly a tier ahead of the older Q.Peak series, with better efficiency, better temperature coefficient and warranted to still be producing over 90.6% at year 25.
Jinko Solar JKM465M-7RL3-TV 465W, Bifacial x 6 =2790 watts peaks at 3414 watts and 680 watts in overcast. 465w producing 569 watts. The only performance that matters for my set up is what I can get through clouds Nov to Feb. March to Oct temp coefficient doesn't matter because months before it even gets hot here the system is in float charge at 9am or earlier. If not for cost I would have got Sunpower but glad I got these instead.
Thank u for this. I definitely was more focused on the company for solar and not the panel itself. Also why is no one talking about how fine this man is? 😂
I have not seen Meyer Burger offered much in the USA… they have mainly focused on Europe for a long time. I know they just opened a new factory in Arizona, so I’m curious to see the specs on the panels that they will start making there.
@@jackthesolarguy Their panels are being offered by Renova Energy here in the Coachella Valley of Southern California as a potential alternative to Maxeon panels. I think the Goodyear Arizona factory came online last week using cells from their factory in Germany until their Colorado Springs cell factory comes online.
Blockbuster Video gave me a Lifetime Warranty on the DVD's I purchased from them. A 25 year Warranty means very little if the company who issued it no longer exists. I think efficency and price point, if degradation is all your worried about, most all of them rate them for 25 years or longer for use ..... better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick
You didnt mention that high temperature coefficient is a bonus also in cold climate region as it boost our voltage and thus increase our solar production a bunch in winter. Also you ranked those solar panels without having any price to it. I checked one of those panasonic panel from your S tier and came out with a 450$ price tag... I could get 2 or 3 panels of equivalent power from Trina for the same price. I mean panasonic is all nice and everything, but when your not a top 5% earner its kinda outrageously expensive to buy them. I dont see those panel standing the test of a price vs quality comparison.
Depends on where you live and what panels are available. Comparing best panel from one manufacturer against worst panel from another is just comparing Apple vs Pears, and will always produce these stupid comparisons. Shame Jinko Tiger Neo with 87.4% after 30 years wasn't used in the comparision.
I agree. I made sure to bring that up with the Aptos panel when speaking about its relative pros for certain areas of the country. To your point, many manufacturers have varying panel options, and I tried to select the panel from a manufacture I see most commonly sold on the residential market.
The benefit of using SunPower is the microinverter output. SunPower Maxeon 440 watt panels are paired with a 384 watt AC output. This means less inverter clipping. There are 6 different versions of the IQ8 series. An REC 420 watt paired with an IQ8+ is only 290 watts continuous. Newer doesn’t necessarily mean better.
You are correct in that the SunPower can only work with the iQ7 because of the output power. This is why the new Enphase IQ8X will be beneficial to any homeowner looking to use high-wattage REC panels or others of similar output.
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Without price this just isn't very useful. It's ranking a Koenigsegg in S tier and a Honda Civic in B tier. People are usually looking for the best bank for their buck panel, not the best panel or the cheapest panel. In the end we're trading money for electricity, so both price and efficacy of panel matter.
What about bificial panels
What a great presentation. I learned quite a lot. We happen to have Q cells -so far so good.
Qcells just announced they are spending $Billions on a new factory in the USA (Georgia) the factory will be completed at the end of 2024. Puts them high on my list !
Q Cell is going to be making some great products coming soon!
Will the way the Silfab panels are made with the cooper backing help improve the temperature coefficient?
I ended up buying the REC panels for my house. Total of 39 panels with Tesla Wall 3 batteries. We produce so much energy, I wished I had bought more batteries. However, I did invest in some Anker Batteries to use in my home to capture more inside so I keep more of my energy and not push it to the grid. The REC panels turned out to be a phenomenal investment for my house.
Do you not have the Q.cells Q.Tron panels in the US? I've got them on my house and they are certainly a tier ahead of the older Q.Peak series, with better efficiency, better temperature coefficient and warranted to still be producing over 90.6% at year 25.
Jinko Solar JKM465M-7RL3-TV 465W, Bifacial x 6 =2790 watts peaks at 3414 watts and 680 watts in overcast. 465w producing 569 watts. The only performance that matters for my set up is what I can get through clouds Nov to Feb. March to Oct temp coefficient doesn't matter because months before it even gets hot here the system is in float charge at 9am or earlier. If not for cost I would have got Sunpower but glad I got these instead.
Do you have these Jinko panels on a ground mount? If so, how high are they off the ground to benefit from overcast days?
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Thank u for this. I definitely was more focused on the company for solar and not the panel itself. Also why is no one talking about how fine this man is? 😂
How about comparing watts per dollar?
I just found your channel and I am completely impressed with your engineering based evaluations. You are a Pro indeed. Well done. 😊
Awesome Energy Power Energy spot on very honest no sales gimmick.
Glad you found it helpful!
Thank you for this information. I know that REC panels are based on Meyer Burger technology. What are your thoughs on Meyer Burger panels?
I have not seen Meyer Burger offered much in the USA… they have mainly focused on Europe for a long time. I know they just opened a new factory in Arizona, so I’m curious to see the specs on the panels that they will start making there.
@@jackthesolarguy Their panels are being offered by Renova Energy here in the Coachella Valley of Southern California as a potential alternative to Maxeon panels. I think the Goodyear Arizona factory came online last week using cells from their factory in Germany until their Colorado Springs cell factory comes online.
Blockbuster Video gave me a Lifetime Warranty on the DVD's I purchased from them. A 25 year Warranty means very little if the company who issued it no longer exists. I think efficency and price point, if degradation is all your worried about, most all of them rate them for 25 years or longer for use ..... better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick
😀👍Good Stuff, Great Tips
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5:55 good pt
You didnt mention that high temperature coefficient is a bonus also in cold climate region as it boost our voltage and thus increase our solar production a bunch in winter. Also you ranked those solar panels without having any price to it. I checked one of those panasonic panel from your S tier and came out with a 450$ price tag... I could get 2 or 3 panels of equivalent power from Trina for the same price. I mean panasonic is all nice and everything, but when your not a top 5% earner its kinda outrageously expensive to buy them. I dont see those panel standing the test of a price vs quality comparison.
literally no different from the IQ7 and IQ8 except sunlight backup which sucks! and the IQ7 they use is 384w output
Have u ever heard of sunpal solar
Hey man which microphone do you use to film your videos?
In this video I was using a cheap lavaleer mic from Amazon
Does S tier mean anything technical beyond tippy top?
Superior
I suspect the Qcell Q.tron panel would be at a higher tier, but is not reviewed here.
Where is Tesla? It's on the thumbnail but not in the video
Solar technology move too quickly I don't understand how they offer a 25yr warranty they won't make these panel in 1 -2 year. So warranty is a lie.
Your chart colours are backwards
Correct, just noticed that.
Depends on where you live and what panels are available. Comparing best panel from one manufacturer against worst panel from another is just comparing Apple vs Pears, and will always produce these stupid comparisons. Shame Jinko Tiger Neo with 87.4% after 30 years wasn't used in the comparision.
I agree. I made sure to bring that up with the Aptos panel when speaking about its relative pros for certain areas of the country. To your point, many manufacturers have varying panel options, and I tried to select the panel from a manufacture I see most commonly sold on the residential market.
The benefit of using SunPower is the microinverter output. SunPower Maxeon 440 watt panels are paired with a 384 watt AC output. This means less inverter clipping. There are 6 different versions of the IQ8 series. An REC 420 watt paired with an IQ8+ is only 290 watts continuous. Newer doesn’t necessarily mean better.
You are correct in that the SunPower can only work with the iQ7 because of the output power. This is why the new Enphase IQ8X will be beneficial to any homeowner looking to use high-wattage REC panels or others of similar output.
Warranties are usless when companies are no longer in business . . . . .
Correct
If you have to put them on a roof . You need to leave the city
This list is laughable
Not worth the watch. Most of what you did was just copy data sheets.