New Shroud of Turin Evidence Points to SHOCKING Conclusion | Dr. Jeremiah Johnston | TBN
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- Dr. Jeremiah Johnston joins Raj Nair to discuss the latest scientific analysis of the Shroud of Turin uncovering signs of severe trauma, blood and hundreds of lashes. As the mystery of the shroud continues to unravel, do these new findings lead to one bold conclusion? Watch now on Can I Trust the Bible? on TBN!
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I think the biggest argument for this, being that the shroud is 2000 years old, how would you do that in the first century? Especially if no one can do it today. Secondly, if it isn’t, Jesus, how else would that source of light be explained to produce that image.
Let’s not lose sight that if this is or isn’t the actual shroud, we still have the truth of Jesus Christ, dying for my sins on that cross bearing my punishment That I deserved. That image, no matter what, I don’t think, it should be worshiped, Jesus is the one that should be worshiped and praised.
Even if the argument was that it was created in the medieval era as incorrectly concluded initially, the technology wasn't available even at that time.
My expertise is 20+ years in Digital imagery and 3D development. The shroud is unique, using the photonegative, it creates a perfect relief map. 3D renders programs need relief maps to create exact terrains and landscapes. There is no relief map that can be scaled indefinitely without creating distortion except the shroud. It’s impossible using today’s current technology (2024). It also has stroboscopic photography, which is where several images are captured due to movement. The shadow turn also displays this with 5 subtle movements. So when the image was being created on the cloth, the body was in movement. God bless everybody, and God bless you for this channel! Thank you for spreading the good word and such beautiful truth ❤
Amazing, thank you. I'm always in awe how the deeper you go into any scientific field, the closer you get to God: cosmology, biology, physics, archeology, etc.
As the father of quantum mechanics Werner Heisenberg said, "The first gulp from the glass of natural sciences will turn you into an atheist, but at the bottom of the glass God is waiting for you."
This latest news just reinforces everything we have believed already. Awesome!
We so need Jesus, our redeemer. Praise God.
Hallelujah. His mercy endures forever and His love never fails. This video being released and the evidence and information presented in this video are worth more than all the diamonds in the world. All those willing to view this with an open and honest heart will be blessed forever.
All Praise, Honor, Glory to Our Lord Jesus Christ!!!
This is so awesome. I watched a show where two people researching the shroud and they were trying to figure out how the light transferred to the linen and they used an expensive huge scanner to show how the light that resurrected Jesus Christ could have been something like the light of a scanner and it was so amazing I watched that probably 15-20 years ago but this new evidence is coming to life in God’s perfect timing to show the world he is real and Jesus Christ is real.
Fantastic video! Thank you. Jesus is King of kings and Lord of lords. Blessings! 😊❤️
I was thinking about this and it seems to me that Jesus paid the price for the sins of the world then left the receipt! If He didn’t mean us to find it, He wouldn’t have left it behind.
This is mind blowing, thank you so much for the simplified and eloquent explanation Dr. I google blood type AB and it seems to be universal donor. Thank you for your blood Jesus! It's a true privilege to know and believe in you!!!
i have always known Jesus to be my Lord and savior.i do not need the shroud to believe but my heart and mind believe it is his ,
This evidence has been available for some years. I am so glad it is getting the attention it deserves lately
Which evidence you mean? According to the GOSPELS' CONTEXT the Shroud of Turin CANNOT BE the authentic burial cloth of Jesus Christ!
This can be checked quite simply by trying to answer the following questions on the basis of the Bible:
(1) What is the correct bible translation of the Greek word “sindón” - “a linen Shroud” or “linen cloth”?
There is no indefinite article "a" in the original Greek texts of Matthew 27:59, Mark 15:46 and Luke 23:53. So, the CONTEXT is decisive and the correct unbiased translation/interpretation of SINDON must be "linen cloth" because Joseph of Arimathea bought ALL the needed burial linen cloth: bandages/strips (OTHONION) and the head cloth (SOUDARION).
And John didn't mention SINDON in his gospel because he also didn't mention the all-inclusive purchase of Joseph of Arimathea. John focused more on the burial and resurrection details and there is nothing like the Shroud.
(2) What happened to the “burial spices” - a 32 kg sticky mixture of myrrh and aloes?
John 19
39Nicodemus, who had previously come to Jesus at night, also brought a mixture of myrrh and aloes, about seventy-five pounds [32 KG]. 40So they took the body of Jesus and wrapped it in linen cloths [OTHONION] with [META] the spices, according to the Jewish burial custom.
Nicodemus was a leading Rabbi who knew WHAT was needed, HOW MUCH and that there was ENOUGH TIME to do the burial spicing. Jesus died around 3 pm and Sabbath started around 6 pm. Enough time to take the body from the cross, to wrap/bind the body in linen cloths (OTHONION) W I T H the spices between those bandages/strips according to the burial custom of Jews at that time and to transport Jesus to the nearby rock-tomb.
(3) What the women intended to do after Sabbath - “anointing” or “burial spicing”?
As shown above, the burial spicing was completely done by Joseph of Arimathea and Nicodemus. This was observed by the women. After Sabbath they intended to ANOINT Jesus' head as an act of honour, removing and readding the head cloth (SOUDARION).
(4) Why to use an extra head cloth „soudarion“ when wrapping a body in something like the Shroud?
The head cloth (SOUDARION) fully covered the head and the rest of the body was wrapped/bound in linen cloths (OTHONION]) with the spices between those bandages/strips. The head cloth was part of the burial custom of (rich) Jews at that time. If used it remains on the head, as we can see in the gospel of John:
John 11:44
44The man [Lazarus] who had died came out, his hands and feet bound with linen strips, and his face wrapped with a cloth [SOUDARION]. Jesus said to them, “Unbind him, and let him go.”
(5) What convinced the people in the 1st century that Jesus rose the third day?
So, there is NO EVIDENCE for something like the Shroud in the gospels. It clearly contradicts the context and it didn‘t play any role from the beginning of the real church of Christ. No Shroud was and is needed to believe in the resurrection and overall in Jesus Christ:
Joseph of Arimathea bought all the needed linen cloth (SINDON). That means bandages/strips (OTHONION) and the head cloth (SOUDARION). Nicodemus organised about 32 kg spices. That means a sticky mixture of myrrh and aloes. Jesus was taken from the cross. Then the body - except the head - was wrapped/bound in situ with (META) the spices between the bandages/strips (OTHONION), according to the burial custom of (rich) Jews at that time. The head was covered with the head cloth (SOUDARION). Even then Jesus was carried to the nearby rock-tomb and was laid in there. The rock-tomb was closed with a stone and sealed. This was observed by the women from a certain distance. After Sabbath the women intended to anoint Jesus head removing and readding the head cloth (SOUDARION) but ...
1 Corinthians 15
1Now, brothers [siblings], I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received, and in which you stand firm. 2By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.
3For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURES, 4that He was buried, that He was raised on the third day ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURES, 5and that He appeared to Cephasa and then to the Twelve. 6After that, He appeared to more than five hundred brothers [siblings] at once, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep. 7Then He appeared to James, then to all the apostles. 8And last of all He appeared to me also, as to one of untimely birth.
All you have to know about Jesus Christ and for faith is in the Scripture. WITHOUT we don't know anything about Jesus, but WITH we even know all relevant burial and resurrection details. Read and trust the Bible!
2 Timothy 3
16ALL SCRIPTURE is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, 17that the man [woman] of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.
More details in a video presentation/description on my channel. Click icon W to the left-top of this comment.
1 Thessalonians 5:21
Test all things; hold fast what is good.
Be blessed - SHALOM!
This would be the greatest archeological find ever!
If this is the image of Jesus…there shouldn’t be any problems convincing the majority of the world to convert to Christianity.
Unfortunately, even if it was almost certain that this is the shroud of Jesus of Nazareth, it will for the large majority only be an historical evidence that Jesus has existed and has been crucified as presented in the gospels. To believe that the image comes through his resurrection and that he is God, that his death was for our salvation and eternal life will certainly not be accepted or understood by the large majority of the people on earth. Our faith is not based on the authenticity of the shroud and this shroud should not in the future be presented as a key element of the Christian faith ! Only the Word of God and the work of the Holy Spirit in us are what bring us in the kingdom of God. Nevertheless, if the shroud of Turin is genuine, this could be used by God to open the eyes of many persons concerning the authenticity of the gospels.
oh wow so now relics instead of faith needs to convert people???😂😂😂😂
People choose to ignore evidence and decide to not believe because they don’t want to believe.
@ChristianCrusader777 If this is a comment on my response, I would suggest that you return to school to learn reading and/or understanding written statements 😁
@@gerard9384 is your name written with that comment? i even do not see your comment.I guess you buy some glasses or learn how to read and react on comments 😂😂😂
The fact that the image is a photograph negative is amazing. Photography was not even invented untill the late 1800's
😂 its just the result of how the shroud was faked.
@@matswessling6600
Faked? Nobody knows how it was even made. Nobody can reproduce it.
@@matswessling6600 sure it is, which is why with all the technology we have today - scientists still can’t replicate it. But then you may be the first - I would go for it if you are so sure - $1 billion is up for grabs!
@@scottishmamalivingingodslight ? Luigi has already demonstraded how its done so you are wrong.
@@matswessling6600 Luigi may have created an image, but did he find a 2000 year old shroud, with fibres deteriorating at the precise rate of fibres seen from the time of the first century, then he would need to find the exact spores from plants only grown in Jerusalem at the time of year of the crucifixion 2000 years ago. Not to mention he would have had to provide three different blood types, one alive pre crucifixion from extreme torture, one where his oxygen levels were depleted and the other post mortem, then these blood types would need to be present at exactly the same locations as the crown of thorns, the scourging, the nailed hands and feet and the wound from the spear. Oh and for the blood to have seeped in just the right location in the expected quantities in all three types.
Then we can add that the scientists found no trace of paint or ochre as Luigi would put it. He might be able to produce an image like that today with some paint magic. But that’s not what the scientists found. However you keep blinding yourself from the truth all you want…
Just how the radiant unknown bright light source making the image is mind blowing. That is the main key to me!!!!😊
What the Bible says: Jesus’ dead body was wrapped, not in one piece of linen, but in multiple strips of cloth. His head was wrapped in a separate cloth. After Jesus was resurrected, one of his apostles came to the empty tomb and “saw the linen cloths lying there.” The Bible adds: “The cloth that had been on his head was not lying with the other cloth bands but was rolled up in a place by itself.”-John 20:6, 7.
The shroud contains markings presumed to be bloodstains from an unwashed corpse.
How can I get a printout of the image of the shroud that Dr. Johnston briefly showed during the interview?
You can purchase prints on the Shroud website. They also have full-size canvas prints.
You can pause the video do a screenshot and then edit and crop the photo...donit all the time
Fun fact! in the time of Jesus, Kings at dinner, would fold their napkins if they left the table, to let the server know they were coming back. The face cloth of Jesus was also folded. I believe it indicates that, by his own hand, he is saying that he, the king of all kings, will return! God bless you all! ❤
A 2000 year old selfie...an aid to faith...a calling card. Once we take it to be authentic and lines up with the gospel accounts the real challenge is the meaning behind it. As Dr. Johnston says it shows the extent of the suffering and points to the attributes of God. God is Love. God is Light. (That certainly fits this image of the resurrection and how we think it was created) God is Eternal Life.
It is the one and only shroud that enveloped the body of Christ and is a unique testimony of the miraculous resurrection of Christ.
Jesus WAS NOT wrapped in something like the Shroud and no relic was and is needed as testimony of the resurrection:
According to the GOSPELS' CONTEXT the Shroud of Turin CANNOT BE the authentic burial cloth of Jesus Christ!
This can be checked quite simply by trying to answer the following questions on the basis of the Bible:
(1) What is the correct bible translation of the Greek word “sindón” - “a linen Shroud” or “linen cloth”?
There is no indefinite article "a" in the original Greek texts of Matthew 27:59, Mark 15:46 and Luke 23:53. So, the CONTEXT is decisive and the correct unbiased translation/interpretation of SINDON must be "linen cloth" because Joseph of Arimathea bought ALL the needed burial linen cloth: bandages/strips (OTHONION) and the head cloth (SOUDARION).
And John didn't mention SINDON in his gospel because he also didn't mention the all-inclusive purchase of Joseph of Arimathea. John focused more on the burial and resurrection details and there is nothing like the Shroud.
(2) What happened to the “burial spices” - a 32 kg sticky mixture of myrrh and aloes?
John 19
39Nicodemus, who had previously come to Jesus at night, also brought a mixture of myrrh and aloes, about seventy-five pounds [32 KG]. 40So they took the body of Jesus and wrapped it in linen cloths [OTHONION] with [META] the spices, according to the Jewish burial custom.
Nicodemus was a leading Rabbi who knew WHAT was needed, HOW MUCH and that there was ENOUGH TIME to do the burial spicing. Jesus died around 3 pm and Sabbath started around 6 pm. Enough time to take the body from the cross, to wrap/bind the body in linen cloths (OTHONION) W I T H the spices between those bandages/strips according to the burial custom of Jews at that time and to transport Jesus to the nearby rock-tomb.
(3) What the women intended to do after Sabbath - “anointing” or “burial spicing”?
As shown above, the burial spicing was completely done by Joseph of Arimathea and Nicodemus. This was observed by the women. After Sabbath they intended to ANOINT Jesus' head as an act of honour, removing and readding the head cloth (SOUDARION).
(4) Why to use an extra head cloth „soudarion“ when wrapping a body in something like the Shroud?
The head cloth (SOUDARION) fully covered the head and the rest of the body was wrapped/bound in linen cloths (OTHONION]) with the spices between those bandages/strips. The head cloth was part of the burial custom of Jews at that time, as we can see in the gospel of John:
John 11:44
44The man [Lazarus] who had died came out, his hands and feet bound with linen strips, and his face wrapped with a cloth [SOUDARION]. Jesus said to them, “Unbind him, and let him go.”
(5) What convinced the people in the 1st century that Jesus rose the third day?
So, there is NO EVIDENCE for something like the Shroud in the gospels. It clearly contradicts the context and it didn‘t play any role from the beginning of the real church of Christ. No Shroud was and is needed to believe in the resurrection and overall in Jesus Christ:
Joseph of Arimathea bought all the needed linen cloth (SINDON). That means bandages/strips (OTHONION) and the head cloth (SOUDARION). Nicodemus organised about 32 kg spices. That means a sticky mixture of myrrh and aloes. Jesus was taken from the cross and maybe he was also washed. Then the body - except the head - was wrapped/bound in situ with (META) the spices between the bandages/strips (OTHONION), according to the burial custom of (rich) Jews at that time. The head was covered with the head cloth (SOUDARION). Even then Jesus was carried to the nearby rock-tomb and was laid in there. The rock-tomb was closed with a stone and sealed. This was observed by the women from a certain distance. After Sabbath the women intended to anoint Jesus head removing and readding the head cloth (SOUDARION) but ...
1 Corinthians 15
1Now, brothers [siblings], I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received, and in which you stand firm. 2By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain. 3For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4that He was buried, that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, 5and that He appeared to Cephasa and then to the Twelve. 6After that, He appeared to more than five hundred brothers at once, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep. 7Then He appeared to James, then to all the apostles. 8And last of all He appeared to me also, as to one of untimely birth.
All you have to know about Jesus Christ and for faith is in the Scripture. Read and trust the Bible!
2 Timothy 3
16All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, 17that the man [woman] of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.
More details in a video presentation/description on my channel. Click icon W to the left-top of this comment.
1 Thessalonians 5:21
Test all things; hold fast what is good.
Be blessed - SHALOM!
@@wipo3654 Wrong!
Not much doubt as to your Shroud ignorance. 1. 'And Joseph bought a linen *shroud,* and taking him down, wrapped him in the linen *shroud* [Mark 15:46] 2. 'And Joseph took the body and wrapped it in a clean linen *shroud'* [Matthew 27:59] 3. 'Then he took it down and wrapped it in a linen *shroud'* [Luke 23:53] Each of the synoptic Gospels mention Joseph of Arimathea making use of a single linen cloth to wrap the body of Jesus for burial. The Word 'Sindon' (singular noun ) means 'A clean sheet' and the Word 'Othonion' (plural noun) means 'bandages'. Luke uses the same plural noun (Othonion), “funeral linens,” in his account of the Resurrection (Luke 24: 12) after earlier speaking of the singular burial cloth (Sindon) or *shroud* (Luke 23 :53) . This plural noun mentioned in (Luke 24: 12) is intended to include all the funeral elements such as : 1) A long *shroud( - It's used to wrap whole body 2)A face cloth or 'Soudarion' - It's not used to wrap whole head but to wipe the perspiration from one’s face. The Greek word 'Soudarion' was derived from a Latin word for “sweat.” 3)A few stripes of linen - They help to tie a shroud around a body The Fourth Gospel never mentions such a 'Sindon'. Instead, John writes of Joseph and Nicodemus “binding the body of Jesus in strips of linen” The verb 'Binding' ( δέω) is frequently found in the context of binding a prisoner with chains. (Mark 5.3; 6.17; Acts 12.6; 21.33) John uses the same verb in Revelation for the 'binding' of the dragon (Rev 20: 2)
There is NO EVIDENCE for something like the Shroud in the Scripture. All starts with misleading Bible interpretations by Shroud defenders and by cherry-picking. All the biblical details that fit with their SHROUD CULT are emphasised: scourging, thorny crown, nails and spear wound.
But when it comes to the BURIAL DESCRIPTION of the gospels then they do not hesitate to ignore, twist, mystify and discredit the Scripture. Some collected NONSENS below:
The only correct translation of SINDON is "A linen shroud/sheet/cloth".
The head cloth was added on the cross and removed/folded by somebody in the rock-tomb (beverlyhurd8556).
The removal of the head cloth was a burial custom of Jews.
The spices were never or partly added due to lack of time.
Jars of spices were brought into the tomb but never used on the body due to fast-approaching Sabbath (Barrie Schwortz quoted by beverlyhurd8556).
The spices maybe were added as packages (Andrew Dalton on channel "The Gracious Guest")
The final wrapping was done in the rock-tomb.
The women wanted to do/finish the "burial spicing" after Sabbath because "anointing" means the same.
The Shroud is the "sign of Jonah" (jeffreyerwin3665).
The image of the Shroud is the reason why Peter and John "saw and believed" the resurrection.
The Shroud/Image was no longer mentioned after resurrection to protect it as a gift for the 20th and 21st century (jeffreyerwin3665).
Open your Bible and prove yourself. I did and the result you can find in a video presentation/description on my channel. Click icon W to the left-top.
Where and when in 2025 will the Shroud be on display? Planning on going to Italy next year
I saw it in TURIN, Italy... I was 100% convinced.
@@susan7517I don't think you had seen the original linen itself. Most probably, the picture of it in a bullet prove glass.
we’ve know for quite a few years that the carbon dated a replacement corner
Wonderful interview. This is very exciting. I worship and exalt you, Jesus Christ of Nazareth!!! You are the Holy Son of God of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob.
If they cannot replicate it with modern science technology, it is not a hoax. It is real.
Anyways, with the shroud or without the shroud, Jesus is my Lord. The shroud is only strengthen my faith in Jesus's name.
I would love it if they could put this news on the front of every new paper now but for some reason it’s hard for the truth to come out !… I really like channels like this making people aware
I always have known it is the burial cloth of Jesus even when the carbon dating results came out having many augments with friend About its authenticity
With technology getting so good, we will be able to find more archaeological history relating to the Bible exciting times
The Shroud is a love letter written by light on linen to the Church
It's actually a one frame video. Reflective imaging shows movement. About six seconds worth. It shows our Lord and Savior's first two waking breaths and His arms and legs begin to move to unwrap Himself. The Shroud had unwrapped by itself and the body was levitating when transfiguration happened. He was also facing down when put into the tomb but no "flat" areas in the image so the only thing would be levitation to explain it. A proton, neutron flash might produce that but neutrons destroy organic matter. Too perfect. Too good to be true. Then I realize this is Jesus and how else would He leave a video for all of history to witness? In epic fashion! Too perfect and too good...leaves no room for doubt. That's the face of Jesus Christ, our Maker.
I saw that also in what AI revealed. There are so many new facts about it.
@@camille11ize I use to be a hard line skeptic. Even tried to reproduce the image. Came close but nope. Even made a flagrum and held it and swung it. Puts everything into perspective. An instrument of pure torture. The Suffering. I've done my research into Roman scourging and what the purpose of it was. 120 lashes from two Roman centurions. They used two types of flagrum at the same time. To bring a man within a breath away from death so a quick death happens when crucified. The carrying of the cross beam is also to drain more blood for an even quicker death. Usually the crucified doesn't live past an hr. Every mark is shown. I can confidently say the Shroud of Christ is not a forgery. To look upon the face of Jesus...that's a priceless gift from God.
@@chankang3733God Bless you man ✝️
The flash mentioned on resurrection on the shroud is the same as the spark of life at conception !! Fascinating!
John 19
39Nicodemus, who had previously come to Jesus at night, also brought a mixture of myrrh and aloes, about seventy-five pounds [32 KG]. 40So they took the body of Jesus and wrapped it in linen cloths [OTHONION] with [META] the spices, according to the Jewish burial custom. 41Now in the place where he was crucified there was a garden, and in the garden a new tomb in which no one had yet been laid. 42So because of the Jewish day of Preparation, since the tomb was close at hand, they laid Jesus there.
John 20
5And stooping to look in, he [JOHN] saw the linen cloths [OTHONION] lying there, but he did not go in. 6Then Simon Peter came, following him, and went into the tomb. He saw the linen cloths [OTHONION] lying there, 7and the face cloth [SOUDARION], which had been on Jesus’ head, not lying with the linen cloths [OTHONION] but folded up in a place by itself.
1 Corinthians 15
1Now, brothers [siblings], I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received, and in which you stand firm. 2BY THIS GOSPEL YOU ARE SAVED, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.
3For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURES, 4that He was buried, that He was raised on the third day ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURES, 5and that He appeared to Cephasa and then to the Twelve. 6After that, He appeared to more than five hundred brothers [siblings] at once, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep. 7Then He appeared to James, then to all the apostles. 8And last of all He appeared to me also, as to one of untimely birth.
2 Timothy 3
16ALL SCRIPTURE is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, 17that the man [woman] of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.
There are more details in a video presentation/description/comments on my channel. Click icon W to the left-top of this comment.
According to the GOSPELS' CONTEXT the Shroud of Turin CANNOT BE the authentic burial cloth of Jesus Christ!
This can be checked quite simply by trying to answer the following questions on the basis of the Bible:
(1) What is the correct bible translation of the Greek word “sindón” - “a linen Shroud” or “linen cloth”?
There is no indefinite article "a" in the original Greek texts of Matthew 27:59, Mark 15:46 and Luke 23:53. So, the CONTEXT is decisive and the correct unbiased translation/interpretation of SINDON must be "linen cloth" because Joseph of Arimathea bought ALL the needed burial linen cloth: bandages/strips (OTHONION) and the head cloth (SOUDARION).
And John didn't mention SINDON in his gospel because he also didn't mention the all-inclusive purchase of Joseph of Arimathea. John focused more on the burial and resurrection details and there is nothing like the Shroud.
(2) What happened to the “burial spices” - a 32 kg sticky mixture of myrrh and aloes?
John 19
39Nicodemus, who had previously come to Jesus at night, also brought a mixture of myrrh and aloes, about seventy-five pounds [32 KG]. 40So they took the body of Jesus and wrapped it in linen cloths [OTHONION] with [META] the spices, according to the Jewish burial custom.
Nicodemus was a leading Rabbi who knew WHAT was needed, HOW MUCH and that there was ENOUGH TIME to do the burial spicing. Jesus died around 3 pm and Sabbath started around 6 pm. Enough time to take the body from the cross, to wrap/bind the body in linen cloths (OTHONION) W I T H the spices between those bandages/strips according to the burial custom of Jews at that time and to transport Jesus to the nearby rock-tomb.
(3) What the women intended to do after Sabbath - “anointing” or “burial spicing”?
As shown above, the burial spicing was completely done by Joseph of Arimathea and Nicodemus. This was observed by the women. After Sabbath they intended to ANOINT Jesus' head as an act of honour, removing and readding the head cloth (SOUDARION).
(4) Why to use an extra head cloth „soudarion“ when wrapping a body in something like the Shroud?
The head cloth (SOUDARION) fully covered the head and the rest of the body was wrapped/bound in linen cloths (OTHONION]) with the spices between those bandages/strips. The head cloth was part of the burial custom of Jews at that time, as we can see in the gospel of John:
John 11:44
44The man [Lazarus] who had died came out, his hands and feet bound with linen strips, and his face wrapped with a cloth [SOUDARION]. Jesus said to them, “Unbind him, and let him go.”
(5) What convinced the people in the 1st century that Jesus rose the third day?
So, there is NO EVIDENCE for something like the Shroud in the gospels. It clearly contradicts the context and it didn‘t play any role from the beginning of the real church of Christ. No Shroud was and is needed to believe in the resurrection and overall in Jesus Christ:
Joseph of Arimathea bought all the needed linen cloth (SINDON). That means bandages/strips (OTHONION) and the head cloth (SOUDARION). Nicodemus organised about 32 kg spices. That means a sticky mixture of myrrh and aloes. Jesus was taken from the cross. Then the body - except the head - was wrapped/bound in situ with (META) the spices between the bandages/strips (OTHONION), according to the burial custom of (rich) Jews at that time. The head was covered with the head cloth (SOUDARION). Even then Jesus was carried to the nearby rock-tomb and was laid in there. The rock-tomb was closed with a stone and sealed. This was observed by the women from a certain distance. After Sabbath the women intended to anoint Jesus head removing and readding the head cloth (SOUDARION) but ...
1 Corinthians 15
1Now, brothers [siblings], I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received, and in which you stand firm. 2By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.
3For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURES, 4that He was buried, that He was raised on the third day ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURES, 5and that He appeared to Cephasa and then to the Twelve. 6After that, He appeared to more than five hundred brothers [siblings] at once, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep. 7Then He appeared to James, then to all the apostles. 8And last of all He appeared to me also, as to one of untimely birth.
All you have to know about Jesus Christ and for faith is in the Scripture. WITHOUT we don't know anything about Jesus, but WITH we even know all relevant burial and resurrection details. Read and trust the Bible!
2 Timothy 3
16ALL SCRIPTURE is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, 17that the man [woman] of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.
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1 Thessalonians 5:21
Test all things; hold fast what is good.
Be blessed - SHALOM!
Have they tested the blood for chromosome count?
Yes, 23 X 1 Y 😊
WOW! Thank you so much for this video! I learned so much!!
So a burst of light is what caused the image to imprint on the shroud? That would be much like the burst of light that has been seen to happen at the moment of conception. Am I off base here?
Yup. Good connection!
no, it wasnt. Luigi Garlaschelli has found out how it was done.
@@matswessling6600
Nobody knows how the image was made and nobody has copied one.
@@sliglusamelius8578 Luigi has found a way to achieve the image. case is closed. only nutheads keep arguing that its "real".
@@matswessling6600lol you are funny
Hi...great presentation. I have learned that there were 2 floggers. One flogger was tall and the other shorter and one was more vicious. The cross beam was in the shape of a T and was inserted into a corresponding hole in a stake already in place. The crucified person was barely off the ground and naked. The cloth or Suderium of Oviedo, meaning the "sweat cloth" stored at Oviedo was usually carried by people to wipe sweat off their faces. As Yeshua Jesus was on the cross His sweat cloth was used to wrap around His head after death. When His friends took Him off the cross He was laid face down on the ground. When they got permission to place Him in the tomb they continued to carry Him face down. Someone tried to hold His nose closed as the blood and water were gushing (not my words) out of His lungs. Scientists gathered in Oviedo to study the sweat cloth and did 6,000 tests to determine why there was a "pattern" to the stains on the Shroud. I would direct you to a Dr. Mark Guscin who has recorded all this info. Blessings!! ❤
Ron Whyatt discovered blood on an artefact he discovered and had it tested, was the blood on the shroud tested the same way, or could the blood be tested the same way? The blood Whyatt tested had 23 chromosomes from the mother’s side, one Y chromosome only. And they said the blood is alive. Can you imagine if both blood samples matched 😳 🤯.
yes that would be speechless!!!
the Jewish photographer on the project from the start said he never believed it was real because the blood still looked red. But when he finds out that when a person goes into shock from torture, the blood will always stay red. So he believes it's real and was Jesus, but he still doesn't believe that he was their Messianic son of David.
I think Jewish people believe the Messiah would come once, conquer and rule. We as Christians believe he will come twice, defeating death (killed & rise), then rule.
Scripture is very clear about idols/statues, they are forbidden. Interestingly enough the Catholic church omits the second commandments, and makes two commandments of the tenth commandment. Guess who owns the shroud ?
The Shroud of Turin is owned by the person of the Pope, currently Pope Francis. The shroud has been kept in Turin, Italy since 1578 and is currently housed in the Cathedral of St. John the Baptist.
Guess who is unifying all religions under the leadership of the pope ?
So what are people to do now ? Bow down to the supposed image of Jesus Christ ??? and worship it ??? and pray to it ???
This is indoctrination by the Vatican. The anti christ will make people bow and worship a statue of him. The image on the shroud might just be that image.
Moses had an image of a snake put on a pole. All who were bitten by snakes could look on the image and be saved from death. This was a type of Jesus Christ dying for the sins of man. That snake image was destroyed by one of Israel's kings because the people made it an idol. Certainly God would not do the same with an image of His Son.
Jesus came from Nazareth but he was not a Nazarene. He did not have long hair. The males Jews didn't have long hair like a woman. In addition I believe I read that the closed eyes on the shroud had pagan coins over them !!! If this is true then certainly Nicodemus would not have done this when he prepared Jesus body for burial.
The Gospel is the power of God unto salvation, and not an image.
Faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the word of God, and not by an image.
The Gospel is foolishness unto men but it is the power of God unto salvation unto all who believe.
God is working with His Word to save people and NOT an image of any kind.............period.
Many other Scriptures point to this fact
Those of us that know the Bible know that only _man_ can make a graven image. Man did not put the image of Jesus on the Shroud, _God_ did. So in _no way_ could it be a graven image.
The Pope can't unify Christ's bride under 1 church. He can't even unify Roman Catholics, many of whom believe Pope Francis is an apostate.
I don't think they want people to worship the shroud. It's just nice to have even more remarkable evidence for the divinity of Jesus Christ!
So God told man not to make an image of Him and then He made an image of Himself ???
The shroud is an attempt to sidestep the Gospel of Jesus Christ by the Vatican, who has always opposed salvation by Faith alone in Jesus Christ, and has placed a curse on all who believe what the Scripture says.
Those of us who really know the Scriptures know what is going on and an how to rightly divide the word of God.
Lying signs, wonders, and miracles are the order of the day in these end times.
@@davidkaus5507 : Well said. If the shroud was real ( despite the Bible clearly talking of strips of linen and not a one piece shroud) then , it was created by God. God therefore did something that He had commanded us not to do… make an image. God cannot go against His word.
Images are not graven images unless the thing itself is worshipped as a God. No artifact is worshiped as a god by Catholics. None.
You can 100% trust the Bible…. Can you always trust TBN….
Well said at the end.
Constantin, Helena and many church-fathers wrote about all the reminding places and things of Jesus and built many remembering sites. Wy did they ignore this shroud?
just for the sake of the skeptic, let's say that the image is _not_ that of Jesus Christ. ok, fine. how was this holographic, x-ray-graphic, photographic-negative image imprinted into an ancient linen burial cloth? that question, in and of itself, has no naturalistic or humanistic explanation. and when you consider _who_ this image at least _appears_ to represent-the Lord and Savior of the world-you then have to ask yourself if this is but a mere coincidence. the image itself, is miraculous (in that it has no plausible explanation), but when the very same "miraculous" image also happens to look like Jesus Christ, w/ all the hallmarks of the Crucifixion, can we really just chalk this up as "coincidence?"
as for those who _still_ want to claim that it's a forgery, please provide 1 explanation for how someone could have imprinted a holographic, x-ray-graphic, photographic-negative image onto a non-light-sensitive material (like linen cloth) around the time period of the middle ages-or even TODAY, for that matter! just 1 explanation.
@@dirkryan5962 : Saying we don’t know HOW it was done is not the same thing as saying it is genuine.
@@GusShrednyThere is no natural explanation for the image. It’s either a forgery using techniques/technology unknown to us, or it was created from the resurrection
@@BeardedApeDad : Those are the options. I agree.
This is the reason I became Catholic.
ahhhhh the believe in relics and typical catholic stuff instead of having faith....🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@ChristianCrusader777 you ought to study Catholicism. Ain't nothing wrong with relics - I , being a Catholic we don't worship them nor the statues of the saints. They are reminders and advocates in heaven.
It's Christ's calling card.
@@gurucarcar I can show you tons of videos especially with mary 😂😂
Wow my dad had AB blood type
It’s the rarest blood type. What an honor. 😊
Awesome revelations
The shroud is immaterial. Whomever was placed in this cloth, Jesus or another, doesn't add or detract from that fact that Jesus and Jesus alone said he would beat death , and did. We dont need ANY physical evidence. It is about Faith alone. We dont need " props" for our Faith. I understand their excitement and zeal, however, lets get excited about what
Jesus of Nazareth said!
QUESTION: When testing the blood in the shroud, AB, does it signify that it is only genetically derived from the mother only and none from the (earthly) father? This would give more credence to the virgin birth because, as I understand it, blood shows both parental genes represented in the offspring of the parents.
I have been a firm believer in the authenticity of the Shroud for dozens of years. However, a friend and I were having lunch not too long ago, and she confidently "informed" me that she KNOWS it is a fake! Her reasoning? She stated that "God would not allow such an important artifact to be left on this earth, because we all have to believe that Jesus rose from the dead WITHOUT evidence or proof!!" I was flabbergasted, and -- of course -- voiced my own assurance, but she stuck to her statement. How would YOU have answered her?
I would recommend both of you to study the Bible.
According to the GOSPELS' CONTEXT the Shroud of Turin CANNOT BE the authentic burial cloth of Jesus Christ!
This can be checked quite simply by trying to answer the following questions on the basis of the Bible:
(1) What is the correct bible translation of the Greek word “sindón” - “a linen Shroud” or “linen cloth”?
There is no indefinite article "a" in the original Greek texts of Matthew 27:59, Mark 15:46 and Luke 23:53. So, the CONTEXT is decisive and the correct unbiased translation/interpretation of SINDON must be "linen cloth" because Joseph of Arimathea bought ALL the needed burial linen cloth: bandages/strips (OTHONION) and the head cloth (SOUDARION).
And John didn't mention SINDON in his gospel because he also didn't mention the all-inclusive purchase of Joseph of Arimathea. John focused more on the burial and resurrection details and there is nothing like the Shroud.
(2) What happened to the “burial spices” - a 32 kg sticky mixture of myrrh and aloes?
John 19
39Nicodemus, who had previously come to Jesus at night, also brought a mixture of myrrh and aloes, about seventy-five pounds [32 KG]. 40So they took the body of Jesus and wrapped it in linen cloths [OTHONION] with [META] the spices, according to the Jewish burial custom.
Nicodemus was a leading Rabbi who knew WHAT was needed, HOW MUCH and that there was ENOUGH TIME to do the burial spicing. Jesus died around 3 pm and Sabbath started around 6 pm. Enough time to take the body from the cross, to wrap/bind the body in linen cloths (OTHONION) W I T H the spices between those bandages/strips according to the burial custom of Jews at that time and to transport Jesus to the nearby rock-tomb.
(3) What the women intended to do after Sabbath - “anointing” or “burial spicing”?
As shown above, the burial spicing was completely done by Joseph of Arimathea and Nicodemus. This was observed by the women. After Sabbath they intended to ANOINT Jesus' head as an act of honour, removing and readding the head cloth (SOUDARION).
(4) Why to use an extra head cloth „soudarion“ when wrapping a body in something like the Shroud?
The head cloth (SOUDARION) fully covered the head and the rest of the body was wrapped/bound in linen cloths (OTHONION]) with the spices between those bandages/strips. The head cloth was part of the burial custom of Jews at that time, as we can see in the gospel of John:
John 11:44
44The man [Lazarus] who had died came out, his hands and feet bound with linen strips, and his face wrapped with a cloth [SOUDARION]. Jesus said to them, “Unbind him, and let him go.”
(5) What convinced the people in the 1st century that Jesus rose the third day?
So, there is NO EVIDENCE for something like the Shroud in the gospels. It clearly contradicts the context and it didn‘t play any role from the beginning of the real church of Christ. No Shroud was and is needed to believe in the resurrection and overall in Jesus Christ:
Joseph of Arimathea bought all the needed linen cloth (SINDON). That means bandages/strips (OTHONION) and the head cloth (SOUDARION). Nicodemus organised about 32 kg spices. That means a sticky mixture of myrrh and aloes. Jesus was taken from the cross and maybe he was also washed. Then the body - except the head - was wrapped/bound in situ with (META) the spices between the bandages/strips (OTHONION), according to the burial custom of (rich) Jews at that time. The head was covered with the head cloth (SOUDARION). Even then Jesus was carried to the nearby rock-tomb and was laid in there. The rock-tomb was closed with a stone and sealed. This was observed by the women from a certain distance. After Sabbath the women intended to anoint Jesus head removing and readding the head cloth (SOUDARION) but ...
1 Corinthians 15
1Now, brothers [siblings], I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received, and in which you stand firm. 2By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain. 3For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4that He was buried, that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, 5and that He appeared to Cephasa and then to the Twelve. 6After that, He appeared to more than five hundred brothers at once, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep. 7Then He appeared to James, then to all the apostles. 8And last of all He appeared to me also, as to one of untimely birth.
All you have to know about Jesus Christ and for faith is in the Scripture. Read and trust the Bible!
2 Timothy 3
16All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, 17that the man [woman] of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.
More details in a video presentation/description on my channel. Click icon W to the left-top of this comment.
1 Thessalonians 5:21
Test all things; hold fast what is good.
Be blessed - SHALOM!
@@wipo3654 Thank you, but I was NOT addressing you! You can quote the Scriptures for 24 hours straight, and it will NOT either prove OR disprove the Shroud of Turin. I KNOW the resurrected Jesus, and whether or not I believe this is an artifact from His tomb does not "make" or "break" my faith in His saving work.
@@elizabethhonaker4855
Sorry that I have bothered you, but it would be a surprise if you would get an answer from the host of this channel. I haven't seen at least one.
And be careful with your ironic words regarding Scripture. WITHOUT we wouldn't know anything about Jesus. But WITH we know everything that is needed for faith and even HOW Jesus was buried:
"wrapped in linen cloths WITH the spices"
John 19
39Nicodemus, who had previously come to Jesus at night, also brought a mixture of myrrh and aloes, about seventy-five pounds [32 KG]. 40So they took the body of Jesus and wrapped it in linen cloths [OTHONION] with [META] the spices, according to the Jewish burial custom.
John 20
5And stooping to look in, he [JOHN] saw the linen cloths [OTHONION] lying there, but he did not go in. 6Then Simon Peter came, following him, and went into the tomb. He saw the linen cloths [OTHONION] lying there, 7and the face cloth [SOUDARION], which had been on Jesus’ head, not lying with the linen cloths [OTHONION] but folded up in a place by itself.
The reason it could have been hidden for so long is that the Jewish prohibition of possessing any images. This most likely was in the hands of the disciples and generations subsequent. It may have DNA of Peter, John or Mariam??
See: "The Shroud," Wison, 2010. The Shroud was immediately spirited away to Edessa where it was outside of Roman authority and safe from the Jewish priests.
it went to europe etc.
“Breaking news?” this has been out since late last month…. Still it is exciting.
Hey guys, thanks for this discussion. I have a question: could you shed some light on the handkerchief on Jesus' head mentioned in the Gospel of John? How does it fit in this shroud discussion?
it is a real problem yes...book of john indeed speaks about a seperate head napkin.
One article said the nuns in charge of the shroud before being stored again vacuumed the shroud and possibly washed it. The image is barely intact
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Question for guest when he returns? It's said that the wattage to generate the Shroud image would be 6.4 gigawatts of radiation power. In layman's terms, what can that sort of power be compared to in our daily lives?
Thank you so much! :)
Sean Elliot Russell
The shroud is here for the same reason the Holy Bible was written, why Jesus was born and now more evidence. Well, Revelation says Jesus will show himself for the final piece of evidence.
Be sure and interview Gilbert Lavoie, who wrote a book about the shroud called “the Jesus shroud. “Includes photographs. I do believe this is the actual resurrection of Jesus Christ.
First of all Jesus was not a criminal. And you should refrain from calling him a criminal
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Hallelujah
My comment or request is this, can you please have a small picture of the shroud by you? The reason is because when it was being discussed way the wrap went around the head to hold the jaw shut, it was mentioned that it could be seen on the shroud where the beard was a bit creased in because of that wrap.
At times like that, maybe it could be pointed out to us where that place is. Just for information purposes. Thank you for your show.
But does it have traces of Myrrh and Aloes on it, which is what Nicodemas and Joseph of Arimethea buried Jesus with?
I have a number of issues with this shroud. Cant go into it too much, particularly with the vile gang up to denounce and then cancel a person from being proactive on social media.
I have a few questions:
1. If the cloth that covered Messiah's head was folded up neatly, why does this 'shroud' have the imprint of the whole body of this person?
2. If only one intact cloth was used as a burial shroud for Messiah, why does my Holy Bible says that the folded up cloth that covered His head was laying beside the CLOTHS (plural) that He was wrapped in....
3. Sunlight alone will bleach blood stains, and the energy of Light that was apparently generated when He was resurrected FAR surpasses that of 'sunlight'...so why does this 'shroud' contain definitive blood stains?
I have more questions, but I will be happy if just these few can be answered logically....
There was a head cloth, wrapped around the head but removed at the time of the burial. The shroud was wrapped around the body and possibly held together by strips of linens.
@@sliglusamelius8578 show me that bibleverse lol
i read a letter from pilate about malchus. he was a the tomb to watch for no wscape. he saw a big light come out of the tomb and he saw jesus rise.
It has been proven that the 1988 carbon dating was erroneous. And the results were locked in the English museum. The museum was paid 1 million pounds to keep results locked up.
The test piece had cotton in it…. the shroud is made of flax and has zero cotton….
A new test WAXS wide angle X-ray scattering dated the shroud to 50 to 70 AD…
John 20:8 - "he saw and believed". The next verse said "(NKJV) For as yet they did not know the Scripture, that He must rise again from the dead." So I assume that John and Peter didn't understand that Jesus resurrected. Or they won't thought that Mary and friends was telling "idle tales" and "didn't believe them" (Luke 24:11) So think Peter and John believed that Jesus was gone, not that He resurrected.
I agree and there is much more. According to the GOSPELS' CONTEXT the Shroud of Turin CANNOT BE the authentic burial cloth of Jesus Christ!
This can be checked quite simply by trying to answer the following questions on the basis of the Bible:
(1) What is the correct bible translation of the Greek word “sindón” - “a linen Shroud” or “linen cloth”?
There is no indefinite article "a" in the original Greek texts of Matthew 27:59, Mark 15:46 and Luke 23:53. Apart from this and considering the context, a correct unbiased translation/interpretation of SINDON must be "linen cloth" because Joseph of Arimathea must have bought ALL the needed burial linen cloth: bandages/strips (OTHONION) and the head cloth (SOUDARION).
And John didn't mention SINDON in his gospel because he also didn't mention the all-inclusive purchase of Joseph of Arimathea. John focused more on the burial and resurrection details and there is nothing like the Shroud.
(2) What happened to the “burial spices” - a 32 kg sticky mixture of myrrh and aloes?
John 19
39Nicodemus, who had previously come to Jesus at night, also brought a mixture of myrrh and aloes, about seventy-five pounds [32 KG]. 40So they took the body of Jesus and wrapped it in linen cloths [OTHONION] with [META] the spices, according to the Jewish burial custom.
Nicodemus was a leading Rabbi who knew WHAT was needed, HOW MUCH and that there was ENOUGH TIME to do the burial spicing. Jesus died around 3 pm and Sabbath started around 6 pm. Enough time to take the body from the cross, to wrap/bind the body in linen cloths (OTHONION) W I T H the spices between those bandages/strips according to the burial custom of Jews at that time and to transport Jesus to the nearby rock-tomb.
(3) What the women intended to do after Sabbath - “anointing” or “burial spicing”?
As shown above, the burial spicing was completely done by Joseph of Arimathea and Nicodemus. This was observed by the women. After Sabbath they intended to ANOINT Jesus' head as an act of honour, removing and readding the head cloth (SOUDARION).
(4) Why to use an extra head cloth „soudarion“ when wrapping a body in something like the Shroud?
The head cloth (SOUDARION) fully covered the head and the rest of the body was wrapped/bound in linen cloths (OTHONION]) with the spices between those bandages/strips. The head cloth was part of the burial custom of Jews at that time, as we can see in the gospel of John:
John 11:44
44The man [Lazarus] who had died came out, his hands and feet bound with linen strips, and his face wrapped with a cloth [SOUDARION]. Jesus said to them, “Unbind him, and let him go.”
(5) What convinced the people in the 1st century that Jesus rose the third day?
So, there is NO EVIDENCE for something like the Shroud in the gospels. It clearly contradicts the context and it didn‘t play any role from the beginning of the real church of Christ. No Shroud was and is needed to believe in the resurrection and overall in Jesus Christ:
Joseph of Arimathea bought all the needed linen cloth (SINDON). That means bandages/strips (OTHONION) and the head cloth (SOUDARION). Nicodemus organised about 32 kg spices. That means a sticky mixture of myrrh and aloes. Jesus was taken from the cross and maybe he was also washed. Then the body - except the head - was wrapped/bound in situ with (META) the spices between the bandages/strips (OTHONION), according to the burial custom of (rich) Jews at that time. The head was covered with the head cloth (SOUDARION). Even then Jesus was carried to the nearby rock-tomb and was laid in there. The rock-tomb was closed with a stone and sealed. This was observed by the women from a certain distance. After Sabbath the women intended to anoint Jesus head removing and readding the head cloth (SOUDARION) but ...
1 Corinthians 15
1Now, brothers [siblings], I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received, and in which you stand firm. 2By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.
3For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4that He was buried, that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, 5and that He appeared to Cephasa and then to the Twelve. 6After that, He appeared to more than five hundred brothers at once, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep. 7Then He appeared to James, then to all the apostles. 8And last of all He appeared to me also, as to one of untimely birth.
All you have to know about Jesus Christ and for faith is in the Scripture. Read and trust the Bible!
2 Timothy 3
16All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, 17that the man [woman] of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.
More details in a presentation video on my channel. Click icon W to the left-top of this comment.
1 Thessalonians 5:21
Test all things; hold fast what is good.
Be blessed - SHALOM!
STURP (Shroud of Turin Research Program 1978-1981) report confirms very good that the Shroud CANNOT BE the authentic burial cloth of Jesus:
I. SPICES
According to the Gospel of John the body was CERTAINLY wrapped/bound in linen cloths WITH the spices:
John 19
39Nicodemus, who had previously come to Jesus at night, also brought a mixture of myrrh and aloes, about seventy-five pounds [32 KG]. 40So they took the body of Jesus and wrapped it in linen cloths [OTHONION] with [META] the spices, according to the Jewish burial custom.
Jesus died around 3 pm and Sabbath started around 6 pm. So, enough time to take the body from the cross, to wrap it according to the burial custom of Jews at that time and to transport Jesus to the nearby rock-tomb.
So, there must be at least non biodegradable particles and stains like it is claimed for blood. But there was/is EMPHASISED NOTHING. Already that is enough to disprove the Shroud, comparing it with the biblical account.
II. IMAGE
And the image itself is a contradiction. There is no shading of the bodys' sides and the top of the head? Also the contact-distance pattern of the backside doesn't correspond the forensic pattern of a dead body lying e.g. on a plate. Folds, overlappings and wavy areas are inevitable as shown in a Shroud wrapping simulation video to explain "scientifically" (why without spices?!) the blood stain pattern:
III. FAZIT
Both, wrapping together with spices never would have resulted in such an undistorted 2D projection image. And other "scientific" discussions are irrelevant as long there is no BIBLICAL evidence that Jesus was wrapped in something like the Shroud.
More biblical details are shown in a video presentation on my channel. Click icon W to the left-top of this comment.
IV. SOURCES
(a) Excerpt of STURPs 1981 final report:
"Microchemical evaluation has indicated NO EVIDENCE OF ANY SPICES, OILS, or any biochemicals known to be produced by the body in life or in death.
It is clear that there has been a DIRECT CONTACT OF THE SHROUD WITH A BODY, which explains certain features such as scourge marks, as well as the blood."
(b) Channel: David Rolfe
:Shroud of Turin - How the Shroud wrapped the body"
There are two parts - the links you can find on my channels' Playlist. As you can see no use of 32 kg spices.
It was the custom at the time that if there was blood on the face or head of the decease person, before the body was laid out. They would take a cloth and cover the head and face while they moved the body. That was the second piece of linen that was found in the tomb.
I thought the church said no more study of the shroud. What was x-rayed?
The burial linen is not the shroud. He doesn't talk about the biblical descriptions. Where is the evidence of the spices? 100 lbs. of it. Why did it not appear for over 1000 years?
Luke 24:12 NKJV
But Peter arose and ran to the tomb; and stooping down, he saw the linen cloths lying by themselves; and he departed, marveling to himself at what had happened.
John 20:5-7 NKJV
And he, stooping down and looking in, saw the linen cloths lying there; yet he did not go in. Then Simon Peter came, following him, and went into the tomb; and he saw the linen cloths lying there, and the handkerchief that had been around His head, not lying with the linen cloths, but folded together in a place by itself.
Those of us that are both intelligent and know the Bible as well as the Shroud know that the facecloth of Jesus was wrapped around his head after he died but was still on the cross. After Joeseph of Arimathea and Nicodemus brought the body of Jesus into the tomb it was removed, folded, and set aside. It was never put back on him again. Had he been wearing it his image would be on there and not the Shroud. And those linen strips were for binding the body during rigor and for securing the shroud to his body. He was _not_ wrapped up like King Tut!
@@beverlyhurd8556 Exactly!
@sovereignmercy1 if you look at the different versions they are synonymous.
stegó: to cover closely (so as to keep water out), generally to bear up under
Original Word: στέγω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: stegó
Phonetic Spelling: (steg'-o)
Definition: to cover closely (so as to keep water out), generally to bear up under
Usage: I cover, conceal, ward off, bear with, endure patiently.
You can lookup the Greek word used as a noun.
The reference to the spices...
I used lbs but it's litres which is about 75 lbs.
38 Now after these things Joseph of Arimathea, being a disciple of Jesus, but a secret one for fear of the [a]Jews, requested of Pilate that he might take away the body of Jesus; and Pilate granted permission. So he came and took away His body. 39 Nicodemus, who had first come to Him by night, also came, bringing a [b]mixture of myrrh and aloes, about a [c]hundred litras weight. 40 So they took the body of Jesus and bound it in linen wrappings with the spices, as is the burial custom of the Jews. 41 Now in the place where He was crucified there was a garden, and in the garden was a new tomb in which no one had yet been laid. 42 Therefore because of the Jewish day of preparation, since the tomb was nearby, they laid Jesus there. John 19:38-42
Shroud believers do not discuss because they have no biblical answers. The fascination for the image makes them blind for the truth:
According to the gospels context - can the Shroud of Turin really be the authentic burial cloth of Jesus Christ?
This can be checked quite simply by trying to answer the following questions on the basis of the Bible:
(1) What is the correct bible translation of the Greek word “sindón” - “a linen Shroud” or “linen cloth”?
There is no indefinite article "a" in the original Greek texts of Matthew, Mark and Luke. Apart from this and considering the context, a correct unbiased translation/interpretation of SINDON must be "linen cloth" because Joseph of Arimathea bought ALL the needed burial material: bandages/strips (OTHONION) and the head cloth (SOUDARION).
(2) What happened to the “burial spices” - a 32 kg sticky mixture of myrrh and aloes?
According to the Gospel of John the body was CERTAINLY wrapped/bound in linen cloths WITH the spices. Nicodemus was a leading Rabbi who knew what was needed, how much and that there was enough time to do the spicing:
John 19
39Nicodemus, who had previously come to Jesus at night, also brought a mixture of myrrh and aloes, about seventy-five pounds [32 KG]. 40So they took the body of Jesus and wrapped it in linen cloths [OTHONION] with [META] the spices, according to the Jewish burial custom.
Jesus died around 3 pm and Sabbath started around 6 pm. So, enough time to take the body from the cross, to wrap/spice it according to the burial custom of Jews at that time and to transport Jesus to the nearby rock-tomb.
(3) What the women intended to do after Sabbath - “anointing” or “burial spicing”?
As shown above, the burial spicing was completely done by Joseph of Arimathea and Nicodemus. This was observed by the women. So, after Sabbath they intended to ANOINT Jesus' head as an act of honour.
(4) Why to use an extra head cloth „soudarion“ when wrapping a body in something like the Shroud?
The head cloth covered the head and the rest of the body was covered by the bandages/strips [OTHONION]. It was part of the burial custom of Jews at that time. The head cloth WAS NOT removed, as we can see in John 11 (resurrection of Lazarus).
(5) What convinced the people in the 1st century that Jesus rose the third day?
So, there is NO EVIDENCE for something like the Shroud in the Gospels. It clearly contradicts the context and it didn‘t play any role from the beginning of the real church of Christ. No Shroud was and is needed to believe in the resurrection and overall in Jesus Christ.
All you have to know about Jesus Christ and for faith is in the Scripture. Read and trust the Bible!
2 Timothy 3:16+17 (NKJ)
All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man [woman] of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.
Joseph of Arimathea bought all the needed linen cloth (SINDON). That means bandages/strips (OTHONION) and the head cloth (SOUDARION). Nicodemus organised about 32 kg spices. That means a sticky mixture of myrrh and aloes. Jesus was taken from the cross and maybe he was also washed. Then the body - except the head - was wrapped/bound in situ with (META) the spices between the bandages/strips (OTHONION), according to the burial custom of (rich) Jews at that time. The head was covered with the head cloth (SOUDARION). Even then Jesus was carried to the nearby rock-tomb and was laid in there. The rock-tomb was closed with a stone and sealed. This was observed by the women from a certain distance. After Sabbath the women intended to anoint Jesus head removing and readding the head cloth (SOUDARION) but ...
1 Corinthians 15
1Now, brothers [siblings], I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received, and in which you stand firm.
2By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.
3For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures,
4that He was buried, that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures,
5and that He appeared to Cephasa and then to the Twelve.
6After that, He appeared to more than five hundred brothers at once, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep.
7Then He appeared to James, then to all the apostles. 8And last of all He appeared to me also, as to one of untimely birth.
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1 Thessalonians 5:21 (NKJ)
Test all things; hold fast what is good.
i am asking those same questions for years already lol
I think the reason the shroud of Jesus is mentioned in the gospels is because the disciples knew of the image on the burial cloth. Could it be possible that the early church used this shroud as a piece of evidence to show the resurrected Christ to nonbelievers? Is it possible that Paul had the shroud on some of his missionary journeys? In 2 Timothy 4:13 Paul wrote to Timothy “The cloke that I left at Troas with Carpus, when thou comest, bring with thee, and the books, but especially the parchments”. The Greek word used here for cloak is not the normal greek word used for cloak. It is a unique word never used anywhere else in New Testament or other Ancient Greek manuscripts. The word used in 2 Timothy is phailonen (φαιλόνην). The normal Greek word used for cloak is Φελόνης or Χιτωυ. Could this be referring to the shroud? Also in Galatians 3:1 Paul writes “ O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?”. Why does he say to the Galatians that before their “eyes Jesus Christ hasty been evidently set forth”? And also says “Crucified among you”? Galatia is in the middle of modern day Turkey, no anywhere near Jerusalem. How could they have seen Jesus Christ, or seen him crucified? They couldn’t have unless they saw a photo of the crucified Christ. A photo that we now call the Shroud of Turin.
Hmmm. The moment he spoke about the "lightning bolt like flash of light" at the moment of resurrection made me instantly think of a recent discovery.
At the moment an egg is fertilized by sperm there is a release of billions of zinc atoms. This creates an instantaneous spark.
The shroud being real or fake…. Jesus is Lord….
You missed dislocated shoulder
I thought that too but this video changed my mind. Multiple images on the shroud. Its definitely real m.ruclips.net/video/xAVZp9tW5FU/видео.html
There is a statue made in Brazil using the 3D information from the shroud.
That sure is amazing if all that is true. But I thought that Vatican hasn't allowed any other extra samples or tests to be taken from the shroud for dating it, since 1988? How did he manage to get access to the fibers from the fabric to make these new X-ray tests, was he granted it by Vatican, or how did that all play out..?
This revelation was available 1 yr or so ago in Catholic circles by Barrie schwortz, who passed away a few months ago. It's basically not new . Perhaps there has been further ai information which is wonderful to see. Glorious picture of Jesus,so many artists got it right including me . Thank you.
😊 The shroud had a strip torn off it that had been reattached down the side. If you notice all the pics of Jesus being removed from the cross, they used a strip of the cloth to lower him from the cross as was common at that time. If you research it, you will see the strip sewn on long ways down the side. So at one time, it was in two long strips.
Don't know if that was helpful or if you knew that? God Bless 🙌
The obsession with relics, artefacts, images, and “supernatural manifestations” is trying to replace the need for the gospel in leading people to a saving knowledge of Jesus Christ. I don’t think it’s possible to develop an intimate relationship with the Lord without studying His Word and that you can only get by reading your bible and not by studying artefacts.
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How right you are! NO SHROUD was and is needed to believe in the resurrection and overall in Jesus Christ.
2 Timothy 3,16+17
ALL SCRIPTURE IS GIVEN [Old and New Testament] by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.
John 14,26 (gospels)
But the Helper [comforter, PARACLETOS], the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.
John 15,26+27 (acts)
“But when the Helper [comforter, PARACLETOS] comes, whom I shall send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify of Me. And you also will bear witness, because you have been with Me from the beginning.
John 16,13 (epistles and revelation)
However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come.
1 Corinthians 15
1Now, brothers [siblings], I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received, and in which you stand firm.
2By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.
3For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures,
4that He was buried, that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures,
5and that He appeared to Cephasa and then to the Twelve.
6After that, He appeared to more than five hundred brothers at once, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep.
7Then He appeared to James, then to all the apostles. 8And last of all He appeared to me also, as to one of untimely birth.
John 3,16
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
John 8
31Then Jesus said to those Jews who believed Him, “If you abide in My word, you are My disciples indeed. 32And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”
John 14,6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
1Joh 1,9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.
John 14,23
Jesus answered and said to him, “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him.
Hebrew 4,12
For the WORD OF GOD is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
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@@wipo3654 Wrong!
Not much doubt as to your Shroud ignorance. 1. 'And Joseph bought a linen *shroud,* and taking him down, wrapped him in the linen *shroud* [Mark 15:46] 2. 'And Joseph took the body and wrapped it in a clean linen *shroud'* [Matthew 27:59] 3. 'Then he took it down and wrapped it in a linen *shroud'* [Luke 23:53] Each of the synoptic Gospels mention Joseph of Arimathea making use of a single linen cloth to wrap the body of Jesus for burial. The Word 'Sindon' (singular noun ) means 'A clean sheet' and the Word 'Othonion' (plural noun) means 'bandages'. Luke uses the same plural noun (Othonion), “funeral linens,” in his account of the Resurrection (Luke 24: 12) after earlier speaking of the singular burial cloth (Sindon) or *shroud* (Luke 23 :53) . This plural noun mentioned in (Luke 24: 12) is intended to include all the funeral elements such as : 1) A long *shroud( - It's used to wrap whole body 2)A face cloth or 'Soudarion' - It's not used to wrap whole head but to wipe the perspiration from one’s face. The Greek word 'Soudarion' was derived from a Latin word for “sweat.” 3)A few stripes of linen - They help to tie a shroud around a body The Fourth Gospel never mentions such a 'Sindon'. Instead, John writes of Joseph and Nicodemus “binding the body of Jesus in strips of linen” The verb 'Binding' ( δέω) is frequently found in the context of binding a prisoner with chains. (Mark 5.3; 6.17; Acts 12.6; 21.33) John uses the same verb in Revelation for the 'binding' of the dragon (Rev 20: 2)
There is NO EVIDENCE for something like the Shroud in the Scripture. All starts with misleading Bible interpretations by Shroud defenders and by cherry-picking. All the biblical details that fit with their SHROUD CULT are emphasised: scourging, thorny crown, nails and spear wound.
But when it comes to the BURIAL DESCRIPTION of the gospels then they do not hesitate to ignore, twist, mystify and discredit the Scripture. Some collected NONSENS below:
The only correct translation of SINDON is "A linen shroud/sheet/cloth".
The head cloth was added on the cross and removed/folded by somebody in the rock-tomb (beverlyhurd8556).
The removal of the head cloth was a burial custom of Jews.
The spices were never or partly added due to lack of time.
Jars of spices were brought into the tomb but never used on the body due to fast-approaching Sabbath (Barrie Schwortz quoted by beverlyhurd8556).
The spices maybe were added as packages (Andrew Dalton on channel "The Gracious Guest")
The final wrapping was done in the rock-tomb.
The women wanted to do/finish the "burial spicing" after Sabbath because "anointing" means the same.
The Shroud is the "sign of Jonah" (jeffreyerwin3665).
The image of the Shroud is the reason why Peter and John "saw and believed" the resurrection.
The Shroud/Image was no longer mentioned after resurrection to protect it as a gift for the 20th and 21st century (jeffreyerwin3665).
Open your Bible and prove yourself. I did and the result you can find in a video presentation/description on my channel. Click icon W to the left-top.
Moment of Jesus Resurrection
The Shroud of Turin with its image of a tortured and crucified man never ceases to fascinate people. Some are convinced that it is the authentic burial cloth of Jesus Christ, while others firmly reject this.
Sindonology is the regarding formal study of the Shroud. The name is from the Greek word σινδών-sindón, the word used in e.g. the Gospel of Mark 15:46 to describe the type of the burial cloth.
But according to the gospels context - can the Shroud of Turin really be the authentic burial cloth of Jesus Christ?
This can be checked quite simply by trying to answer the following questions on the basis of the Bible:
(1) What is the correct bible translation of the Greek word “sindón” - “a linen Shroud” or “linen cloth”?
There is no indefinite article "a" in the original Greek texts of Matthew, Mark and Luke. Apart from this and considering the context, a correct unbiased translation/interpretation of SINDON must be "linen cloth" because Joseph of Arimathea bought ALL the needed burial material: bandages/strips (OTHONION) and the head cloth (SOUDARION).
(2) What happened to the “burial spices” - a 32 kg sticky mixture of myrrh and aloes?
According to the Gospel of John the body was CERTAINLY wrapped/bound in linen cloths WITH the spices. Nicodemus was a leading Rabbi who knew what was needed, how much and that there was enough time to do the spicing:
John 19
39Nicodemus, who had previously come to Jesus at night, also brought a mixture of myrrh and aloes, about seventy-five pounds [32 KG]. 40So they took the body of Jesus and wrapped it in linen cloths [OTHONION] with [META] the spices, according to the Jewish burial custom.
Jesus died around 3 pm and Sabbath started around 6 pm. So, enough time to take the body from the cross, to wrap/spice it according to the burial custom of Jews at that time and to transport Jesus to the nearby rock-tomb.
(3) What the women intended to do after Sabbath - “anointing” or “burial spicing”?
As shown above, the burial spicing was completely done by Joseph of Arimathea and Nicodemus. This was observed by the women. So, after Sabbath they intended to ANOINT Jesus' head as an act of honour.
(4) Why to use an extra head cloth „soudarion“ when wrapping a body in something like the Shroud?
The head cloth covered the head and the rest of the body was covered by the bandages/strips [OTHONION]. It was part of the burial custom of Jews at that time. The head cloth WAS NOT removed, as we can see in John 11 (resurrection of Lazarus).
(5) What convinced the people in the 1st century that Jesus rose the third day?
So, there is NO EVIDENCE for something like the Shroud in the Gospels. It clearly contradicts the context and it didn‘t play any role from the beginning of the real church of Christ. No Shroud was and is needed to believe in the resurrection and overall in Jesus Christ.
All you have to know about Jesus Christ and for faith is in the Scripture. Read and trust the Bible!
2 Timothy 3:16+17 (NKJ)
All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man [woman] of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.
Joseph of Arimathea bought all the needed linen cloth (SINDON). That means bandages/strips (OTHONION) and the head cloth (SOUDARION). Nicodemus organised about 32 kg spices. That means a sticky mixture of myrrh and aloes. Jesus was taken from the cross and maybe he was also washed. Then the body - except the head - was wrapped/bound in situ with (META) the spices between the bandages/strips (OTHONION), according to the burial custom of (rich) Jews at that time. The head was covered with the head cloth (SOUDARION). Even then Jesus was carried to the nearby rock-tomb and was laid in there. The rock-tomb was closed with a stone and sealed. This was observed by the women from a certain distance. After Sabbath the women intended to anoint Jesus head removing and readding the head cloth (SOUDARION) but ...
1 Corinthians 15
1Now, brothers [siblings], I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received, and in which you stand firm.
2By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.
3For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures,
4that He was buried, that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures,
5and that He appeared to Cephasa and then to the Twelve.
6After that, He appeared to more than five hundred brothers at once, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep.
7Then He appeared to James, then to all the apostles. 8And last of all He appeared to me also, as to one of untimely birth.
1 Thessalonians 5:21 (NKJ)
Test all things; hold fast what is good.
If you actually are so _incredibly stupid_ as to believe the Shroud is a fake, then you must explain how whoever fabricated it must have:
1. Known the precise methods of crucifixion in the first century.
2. Be proficient enough in over 100 scientific disciplines and also collectively outweigh the intelligence of the people who performed hundreds and hundreds of tests on the Shroud and who are not finding any indications of a forgery.
3. Possessed the medical knowledge of a modern expert surgeon.
4. Utilized an art process unknown to any great master, never duplicated before or since.
5. Be able to foresee and approximate principles of photographic negativity that would not be discovered for centuries.
6. Imported a piece of old cloth of Middle Eastern manufacture.
7. Used a coloring agent which would be unaffected by intense heat.
8. Be able to incorporate in his work details (that have only recently been discovered), that the human eye cannot see and that are visible only with the most advanced computer-scanning devices.
9. Be able to reproduce flawlessly, on a nearly flat linen surface, in a single color, undistorted 3-D characteristics of a human body in a 'negative format' on the tops of the threads, while conversely showing the 'blood' as positive and soaking all the way through.
10. Get somewhere the blood of a tortured man and apply it before creating the image.
11. Get limestone from Jerusalem, and pollen particles from the middle east, in special from plants with thorns, that flourish only between March and April.
@@beverlyhurd8556
No evidence for the Shroud in the Bible means that all your pseudo-science Sindonology garbage is the best evidence ...
1 Corinthians 3,19
... for the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, “He catches the wise in their own craftiness”.
@@wipo3654 While no one at this time can prove 100% that the Shroud of Turin once contained the body of Jesus, those of us that have studied it and have at least normal intelligence (which leaves you out), know that it once wrapped Jesus. You have not studied anything at all about the Shroud, have you? How the fabric, the pollen and dirt on it at date to Biblical days of Jerusalem? They have proven was that it contained a body that was beaten like Jesus was, scourged like Jesus was, was crucified like Jesus was AND wore a cap of thorns (only Jesus in recorded history was crucified wearing one of those) like Jesus was. To those of us that are blessed with better than average intelligence that spells it out quite clearly. And the thousands of manhours of research do a fine job at showing who was on the Shroud as well. These days, only the super dumb or the super ignorant will call the Shroud a fake.
@@beverlyhurd8556
The Shroud cult discredits the Authenticity of the Scripture. If Shroudies would study the Bible with the same intensity they wouldn't share the following collected NONSENS anymore:
The only correct translation of SINDON is "A linen shroud/sheet/cloth".
The head cloth was added on the cross and removed/folded by somebody in the rock-tomb.
The removal of the head cloth was either a burial custom of Jews or an instruction of an angel in the rock-tomb.
The spices were never or partly added due to lack of time.
Jars of spices were brought into the tomb but never used on the body due to fast-approaching Sabbath.
The spices maybe were added as packages.
The final wrapping was done in the rock-tomb.
The women wanted to finish the "burial spicing" after Sabbath because "anointing" means the same.
The Shroud is the "sign of Jonah".
The body was either in vertical position (lifted up), or gravity has been altered before the image creation by an unknown radiation/flash.
The image of the Shroud is the reason why Peter and John "saw and believed" the resurrection.
The Shroud/Image was no longer mentioned after resurrection to protect it as a gift for the 20th and 21st century.
Paul referred to the Shroud in Galatians 3,1 when writing "Jesus was portrayed as crucified".
Again - SINDONOLOGY is the best evidence ...
1 Corinthians 3,19
... for the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, “He catches the wise in their own craftiness”.
That's great that you found your proof but what does it matter? Do you really need proof to believe the word of God? Do you need signs and wonders to believe? Ppl should be careful not to idolize at the end of the day it is just cloth focus on the comforter who is much greater than material things that God sends us
People, this is the extraordinary evidence supporting the extraordinary claim. It is the best evidence outside of the bible. A close second would be the gospel in the stars.
Have they or could they check the blood DNA to see if the blood was from only the mother. Its just something that someone had said that Jesus had only the blood of Mary in his DNA.
How will they do that? Anyone got some her blood to test? Maybe a few strands of her hair?
Not relevant. In the first century Jesus was known as "Yeshu ben Pantera." See: Tiberius Julius Abdes Pantera.
I was talking about the blood type. Only one blood DNA would be there since he had only one early parent. An archeology years ago says he thinks he found the Ark of the covenant. The blood between the angels on the top of the Ark was tested , the blood type was AB and the DNA come back saying that the DNA testing results were that only female chromosones were found and no male. So only a mother's DNA was found. He said that where he thought he had found the Ark was near the garden tomb. I think his name was Ron Wyatt. I don't know if its true. It was just weird.
As for the Blood on the shroud
it contains some human Chromosomes, however other information on the DNA are either scrambled, missing or not looking human.
So even as the blood is human, it's not entirely human,
if you catch my drift.
@@jeffreyerwin3665this is a very weak argument introduced via the Talmud possibly during 2nd century in attempt to attack the Christian movement. Most scholars disagree with this theory, something revolutionary happened that led to so many Jews converting to their new faith .. if it was a Roman solider he would have been beheaded as Paul was and not crucified as told by the 4 witnesses statements of the gospels. The Jews were hellbent on trying to stop this movement but nothing was strong enough to stop it .. Christianity turned the world upside down and exploded across the Middle East and surrounding areas
The amazing thing about the blood is that it has mitochondrial DNA ONLY and only 24 chromosomes
I heard recently that they ran DNA on the blood and found all the DNA from the mother, but only 1 strand of DNA of the father. Is this true?
This is the Resurrection and in my view the most important event of Creation as most will find out in the coming months. Yeshua is upright and alive at the moment of Resurrection. God made sure all the info got safe to us for 2024 even after all the fires ect. This will convert all faiths to one, probably Catholic as the 12 emanate from Him including Paul and Peter .
We aren't turning to Roman Catholicism. Even the Eastern Orthodox have the same apostolic claims and we aren't turning to them. We are saved by faith in Jesus Christ, not through faith in Paul, Peter or the 12
@@uqvguerr : It’s a clever forgery. The only thing it will convert you to is the religion of the AntiChrist.
The people who say the shroud is fake or isn't Jesus are the same ones even if u had Jesus himself saying hey yep I took the first selfie, would still deny it being real because then they'd have to admit that the bible is true and they'd have to stop living in sin and accept Jesus as their Savior to get to heaven and they love their sinful life and don't want to change. So it's easier for them to deny what evidence is in their faces and says no it's a forgery and fake than change their lives around.
Hasn't lime stone been found on it now?
I’ve heard said many times another perspective, so suppose a question, Jesus, the resurrection, was an NDE experience, therefore if that be, the energy radiating, a laser beam bolt of lightening for life to continue, create an image in the process is nothing that can be truely measured & entirely possible, to be revived after such punishment be a miracle, no hoax
Don't you find it interesting that there are no other 'holy' relics? No holy grail, no remnants of the cross, no ark of the covenant...nothing, yet here is a shroud with a likeness of Jesus on it?
Nobody knows what Jesus looked like and our belief is rooted in faith. I find this difficult to believe.
Sudarium of Oviedo. Titulus Crucis. Tunic of Argenteuil. Valencia Cup. Ark in Axum, Ethiopia.
27:07
Love this show, thank you! So we have proof of substances, blood type, dating. But the rest is forensic opinion and the guest is admittedly not a forensic expert. There very well may have been others crucified in the same way, one cannot say whether or not this is true. I'm still skeptical that this says he is the Messiah. Even if it's Jesus, how does that say he's the Messiah? I ask this very respectfully, not with intent to prove it wrong. I am not an expert, however I've devoted my adult life to study. I believe that Faith will always be needed and yet appreciate the archeological and forensic studies. 🙏
Great question. Jesus is the Messiah because he died for the sins of all mankind (the entire human race) and was resurrected after 3 days. His death & resurrection saves us, & allows us to go to heaven when we die, if we accept him as our savior. This is all in the Bible. Hope that helps, friend.
There is no "even if", That's Christ, and you know it.
@@LVGirl4 thank you, I do know all that the faith claims. You just quoted the story from the Bible. 🤣 So, no, that didn't help at all, friend. As I said, it comes down to Faith not actual evidence. Have a great day and thank you!
@@CameronJohnstonKC : Only sinners need a saviour. If you don’t consider yourself a sinner who is on his way to eternal damnation , then you don’t need a saviour. But you will spend eternity in Hell.
T2.5 watts shine on the cloth printing the image of the Lord resembles the tree burning but not consumed by the fire or wattage that did not burn the shroud
What Type of pollen was embedded on the shroud
This might give you a clue
Gospel of John
John 19: 39
39 And there came also Nicodemus, which at the first came to Jesus by night, and brought a mixture of myrrh and aloes, about an hundred pound weight.
Can this Scientist check this out
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He called at 235 maybe a few seond before or a few seconds after he specifically said yeshua a crucifified criminal. Hes not a criminal why wouldnt he say savior ?
Is there any truth in the dna story connected to the shroud?
Don't need no false idols. No shrouds, no ark, no other then Jesus!💖🌞👑✝️😃 so if the shroud has a head to foot photo of Jesus's dead body, then how does the napkin (face cover) that was folded fit in? Double photo of His face?
Then Simon Peter came, following him, and went into the tomb. He saw the linen cloths lying there, and the face cloth, which had been on Jesus' head, not lying with the linen cloths but folded up in a place by itself. John 20:6-7
And why didn't Simon Peter see it and comment?
The facecloth of Jesus was wrapped around his head after he died. After he was brought into the tomb it was removed, folded, and set aside. It was never put back on him again.
@beverlyhurd8556 there are no Biblical references to removing the facecloth and folding it. There are references in each Gospel to Joseph and Nicodemus taking the body, wrapping it in linen and in John, 100 lbs of a mixture of myrrh and aloes that were wrapped in with the clean linens (plural). No mention of a shroud. And again Peter didn't say he saw the Lord's image on the linens.💖🌞👑✝️😃
the images of Jesus' corpse on his burial cloth suggest that his corpse vanished which in turn suggests that his resurrection also took place. The Jewish authorities would have searched out and destroyed this evidence had they learned of it.
@@ambassadorlight3146 No mention of the Shroud? What Bible have you been reading? 1. 'And Joseph bought a linen *shroud,* and taking him down, wrapped him in the linen *shroud* [Mark 15:46] 2. 'And Joseph took the body and wrapped it in a clean linen *shroud'* [Matthew 27:59] 3. 'Then he took it down and wrapped it in a linen *shroud'* [Luke 23:53] Each of the synoptic Gospels mention Joseph of Arimathea making use of a single linen cloth to wrap the body of Jesus for burial. The Word 'Sindon' (singular noun ) means 'A clean sheet' and the Word 'Othonion' (plural noun) means 'bandages'. Luke uses the same plural noun (Othonion), “funeral linens,” in his account of the Resurrection (Luke 24: 12) after earlier speaking of the singular burial cloth (Sindon) or *shroud* (Luke 23 :53) . This plural noun mentioned in (Luke 24: 12) is intended to include all the funeral elements such as : 1) A long *shroud( - It's used to wrap whole body 2)A face cloth or 'Soudarion' - It's not used to wrap whole head but to wipe the perspiration from one’s face. The Greek word 'Soudarion' was derived from a Latin word for “sweat.” 3)A few stripes of linen - They help to tie a shroud around a body The Fourth Gospel never mentions such a 'Sindon'. Instead, John writes of Joseph and Nicodemus “binding the body of Jesus in strips of linen” The verb 'Binding' ( δέω) is frequently found in the context of binding a prisoner with chains. (Mark 5.3; 6.17; Acts 12.6; 21.33) John uses the same verb in Revelation for the 'binding' of the dragon (Rev 20: 2)
And so what if Peter did not see Jesus' image on the Shroud? We have no idea how long it took to materialize now, do we? And besides, it's almost impossible to see it when you're close to it.
@beverlyhurd8556 yes, I had all 4 Gospels side by side and missed the word shroud. They were referred to linens. So, what is a shroud? Some say pieces or strips of cloth. And the Gospels say wrapped in not laid flat over the body from the head to the feet 14' long? And the spices were wrapped in them. I don't think this is real. There have been many artifacts over the years. The burial box with Jesus's name and bones inside. A statues of Jesus that was made by a wealthy woman around Jesus's time. It was destroyed. A cross in a Mexican church that keeps growing. A statue of Jesus? in a church that bleeds tears. So many false idols that Satan uses to distract and confuse followers of Christ. Faith is in the unseen.
John 20:7
Wow do you ever sound so dumb. Those of us that are both intelligent and know the Bible as well as the Shroud know that the facecloth of Jesus was wrapped around his head after he died but was still on the cross. After Joeseph of Arimathea and Nicodemus brought the body of Jesus into the tomb it was removed, folded, and set aside. It was never put back on him again. Had he been wearing it his image would be on there and not the Shroud. Is there any way possible that you can understand that? And those linen strips were for binding the body during rigor and for securing the shroud to his body. He was _not_ wrapped up like King Tut! Duh!!
The burial story of beverlyhurd8556 is pure fantasy. There is not one verse she can quote to give evidence for her nonsens.
“Then if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or ‘There!’ do not believe it. For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. See, I have told you beforehand. “Therefore if they say to you, ‘Look, He is in the desert!’ do not go out; or ‘Look, He is in the inner rooms!’ do not believe it. For as the lightning comes from the east and flashes to the west, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. For wherever the carcass is, there the eagles will be gathered together."
Matthew 24:23-28 NKJV
"It is an evil and unfaithful generation that asks for a sign. The only sign that it will be given is the sign of the prophet Jonah. For as Jonah remained in the belly of the sea-monster for 3 days and 3 night, so will the son of man be in the heart of the earth for 3 days and 3 nights."
Matthew 12:39-40
Of all the countless thousands of people who were crucified, why doesn’t anybody take into account that this could be any human being and not just Jesus? Maybe it’s the thief that was on his left side. Maybe it’s the thief that was on his right side. Maybe it was somebody who who was crucified from Israel
People, use the discernment that God gave you, not be deceived by emotional hype.
If you read the holy Bible, you will see that the materials that were used to bury Jesus do not match this single piece of cloth.
Isn't there another cloth, kept in a different location, that bares the image of his face only? It matches the shroud perfectly.
Sort of. There is the Sudarium of Oviedo which was used to wrap the head of Jesus after he died but was still on the cross. After Joesph of Arimathea and Nicodemus brought him into the tomb it was removed and set aside. It was not on him when he was resurrected. Had it been then his head image would have been on there instead of the Shroud. But there are like 130 points of congruity between the Sudarium and the Shroud which proves 100% that they both were on the same body at one time. ✝
@beverlyhurd8556 yes, that's the one! Thank you for clarifying!
The Shroud of Turin with its image of a tortured and crucified man never ceases to fascinate people. Some are convinced that it is the authentic burial cloth of Jesus Christ, while others firmly reject this.
Sindonology is the regarding formal study of the Shroud. The name is from the Greek word σινδών-sindón, the word used in e.g. the Gospel of Mark 15:46 to describe the type of the burial cloth.
But according to the gospels context - can the Shroud of Turin really be the authentic burial cloth of Jesus Christ?
This can be checked quite simply by trying to answer the following questions on the basis of the Bible:
(1) What is the correct bible translation of the Greek word “sindón” - “a linen Shroud” or “linen cloth”?
There is no indefinite article "a" in the original Greek texts of Matthew, Mark and Luke. Apart from this and considering the context, a correct unbiased translation/interpretation of SINDON must be "linen cloth" because Joseph of Arimathea bought ALL the needed burial material: bandages/strips (OTHONION) and the head cloth (SOUDARION).
(2) What happened to the “burial spices” - a 32 kg sticky mixture of myrrh and aloes?
According to the Gospel of John the body was CERTAINLY wrapped/bound in linen cloths WITH the spices. Nicodemus was a leading Rabbi who knew what was needed, how much and that there was enough time to do the spicing:
John 19
39Nicodemus, who had previously come to Jesus at night, also brought a mixture of myrrh and aloes, about seventy-five pounds [32 KG]. 40So they took the body of Jesus and wrapped it in linen cloths [OTHONION] with [META] the spices, according to the Jewish burial custom.
Jesus died around 3 pm and Sabbath started around 6 pm. So, enough time to take the body from the cross, to wrap/spice it according to the burial custom of Jews at that time and to transport Jesus to the nearby rock-tomb.
(3) What the women intended to do after Sabbath - “anointing” or “burial spicing”?
As shown above, the burial spicing was completely done by Joseph of Arimathea and Nicodemus. This was observed by the women. So, after Sabbath they intended to ANOINT Jesus' head as an act of honour.
(4) Why to use an extra head cloth „soudarion“ when wrapping a body in something like the Shroud?
The head cloth covered the head and the rest of the body was covered by the bandages/strips [OTHONION]. It was part of the burial custom of Jews at that time. The head cloth WAS NOT removed, as we can see in John 11 (resurrection of Lazarus).
(5) What convinced the people in the 1st century that Jesus rose the third day?
So, there is NO EVIDENCE for something like the Shroud in the Gospels. It clearly contradicts the context and it didn‘t play any role from the beginning of the real church of Christ. No Shroud was and is needed to believe in the resurrection and overall in Jesus Christ.
All you have to know about Jesus Christ and for faith is in the Scripture. Read and trust the Bible!
2 Timothy 3:16+17 (NKJ)
All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man [woman] of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.
Joseph of Arimathea bought all the needed linen cloth (SINDON). That means bandages/strips (OTHONION) and the head cloth (SOUDARION). Nicodemus organised about 32 kg spices. That means a sticky mixture of myrrh and aloes. Jesus was taken from the cross and maybe he was also washed. Then the body - except the head - was wrapped/bound in situ with (META) the spices between the bandages/strips (OTHONION), according to the burial custom of (rich) Jews at that time. The head was covered with the head cloth (SOUDARION). Even then Jesus was carried to the nearby rock-tomb and was laid in there. The rock-tomb was closed with a stone and sealed. This was observed by the women from a certain distance. After Sabbath the women intended to anoint Jesus head removing and readding the head cloth (SOUDARION) but ...
1 Corinthians 15
1Now, brothers [siblings], I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received, and in which you stand firm.
2By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.
3For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures,
4that He was buried, that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures,
5and that He appeared to Cephasa and then to the Twelve.
6After that, He appeared to more than five hundred brothers at once, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep.
7Then He appeared to James, then to all the apostles. 8And last of all He appeared to me also, as to one of untimely birth.
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1 Thessalonians 5:21 (NKJ)
Test all things; hold fast what is good.
@@wipo3654 With all we know about the Shroud of Turin today, there is _no one_ in their right mind that will call it fake. Impossible. Only a living in denial atheist and those that are simply out of their minds will call it a fake. That we know for sure.
@@beverlyhurd8556
No evidence for the Shroud in the Bible means that all your pseudo-science Sindonology garbage is the best evidence ...
1 Corinthians 3,19
... for the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, “He catches the wise in their own craftiness”.
This bit of cloth shows a face of a man that look well and in good condition yet the scripture’s say his visage was mard beyond the for of man
The man is marred. His face is terribly swollen and disfigured. I’m an artist, and I did a recreation of the image using AI Tech. It naturally came out with the swollen face and marks of a torture victim.
The artist-created image is just that.
@@delyta. If you are referring to God being the artist, then you would be correct. Because everyone with a brain knows that the image was not put on there by man.
As a good number of us know, after Joseph of Arimathea and Nicodemus took Jesus to the tomb they spent what little time they had before Sabbath forced them to stop cleaning his body. As the image on the Shroud _clearly shows_, he was horribly beaten, savagely scourged, had a cap of thorns smashed down on this head then he was crucified until dead. Patches of his beard were yanked out. Can anyone be dumb enough to think that this is not Jesus??
I was referring to the artist's rendering made by interpreting the "negative" on the shroud, not the shroud itself. The evidence does seem to point to the shroud being real. @@beverlyhurd8556
How do you explain the following Bible Verse: John 20:6-7
New King James Version
6 Then Simon Peter came, following him, and went into the tomb; and he saw the linen cloths lying there, 7 and the [a]handkerchief that had been around His head, not lying with the linen cloths, but folded together in a place by itself.
Footnotes
John 20:7 face cloth
The "linen cloths" refer to the strips of linen that were used to secure the "sindone" to the body. The "other disciple" saw these while he was still outside of the tomb. The other disciple then entered the tomb and he saw something which caused him to believe ("He saw and he believed.")
The two questions are: 1. What was it that this other disciple saw that so impressed him, and 2. Why doesn't John tell us what that object was? It must have been very important.
If that other disciple noticed an image of Jesus' dead body on the burial shroud, that would have caused him to believe. If there was such an image on Jesus burial shroud, that fact would have needed to have been kept a secret. If the authorities had learned of it, they would have searched out the shroud and destroyed it.
The SHROUD OF TURIN with its image of a tortured and crucified man never ceases to fascinate people. Some are convinced that it is the authentic burial cloth of Jesus Christ, while others firmly reject this.
Sindonology is the regarding study of the Shroud to prove its' authenticity. The name is from the Greek word σινδών-sindón, the word used in e.g. the gospel of Mark 15:46a to describe the type of the burial cloth.
But according to the gospels context - can the Shroud of Turin really be the authentic burial cloth of Jesus Christ? This can be checked quite simply by trying to answer the following questions on the basis of the Bible:
(1) What is the correct bible translation of the Greek word “sindón” - “a linen Shroud” or “linen cloth”?
There is no indefinite article "a" in the original Greek texts of Matthew, Mark and Luke. Apart from this and considering the context, a correct unbiased translation/interpretation of SINDON must be "linen cloth" because Joseph of Arimathea bought ALL the needed burial material: bandages/strips (OTHONION) and the head cloth (SOUDARION).
(2) What happened to the “burial spices” - a 32 kg sticky mixture of myrrh and aloes?
According to the gospel of John the body was CERTAINLY wrapped/bound in linen cloths WITH the spices. Nicodemus was a leading Rabbi who knew WHAT was needed, HOW MUCH and that there was ENOUGH TIME to do the spicing:
John 19
39Nicodemus, who had previously come to Jesus at night, also brought a mixture of myrrh and aloes, about seventy-five pounds [32 KG]. 40So they took the body of Jesus and wrapped it in linen cloths [OTHONION] with [META] the spices, according to the Jewish burial custom.
Jesus died around 3 pm and Sabbath started around 6 pm. So, enough time to take the body from the cross, to wrap/spice it according to the burial custom of Jews at that time and to transport Jesus to the nearby rock-tomb.
(3) What the women intended to do after Sabbath - “anointing” or “burial spicing”?
As explained above, the burial spicing was completely done by Joseph of Arimathea and Nicodemus. This was observed by the women. So, after Sabbath they intended to ANOINT Jesus' head as an act of honour.
(4) Why to use an extra head cloth „soudarion“ when wrapping a body in something like the Shroud?
The head cloth fully covered the head and the rest of the body was covered by the bandages/strips [OTHONION]. It was part of the burial custom of Jews at that time. The head cloth WAS NOT removed, as we can see in John 11 (resurrection of Lazarus).
(5) What convinced the people in the 1st century that Jesus rose the third day?
So, there is NO BIBLICAL-LOGICAL EVIDENCE for something like the Shroud in the gospels. It clearly contradicts the context and it didn‘t play any role from the beginning of the real church of Christ. No Shroud was and is needed to believe in the resurrection and overall in Jesus Christ.
All you have to know about Jesus Christ and for faith is in the Scripture. Read and trust the Bible!
2 Timothy 3
16All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, 17that the man [woman] of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.
Joseph of Arimathea bought all the needed linen cloth (SINDON). That means bandages/strips (OTHONION) and the head cloth (SOUDARION). Nicodemus organised about 32 kg spices. That means a sticky mixture of myrrh and aloes. Jesus was taken from the cross and maybe he was also washed. Then the body - except the head - was wrapped/bound in situ with (META) the spices between the bandages/strips (OTHONION), according to the burial custom of (rich) Jews at that time. The head was covered with the head cloth (SOUDARION). Even then Jesus was carried to the nearby rock-tomb and was laid in there. The rock-tomb was closed with a stone and sealed. This was observed by the women from distance. After Sabbath the women intended to anoint Jesus' head removing and readding the head cloth (SOUDARION) but ...
1 Corinthians 15
1Now, brothers [siblings], I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received, and in which you stand firm. 2By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.
3For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4that He was buried, that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, 5and that He appeared to Cephasa and then to the Twelve. 6After that, He appeared to more than five hundred brothers at once, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep. 7Then He appeared to James, then to all the apostles. 8And last of all He appeared to me also, as to one of untimely birth.
More details in a presentation video on my channel. Click icon W to the left-top.
1 Thessalonians 5:21
Test all things; hold fast what is good.
@@wipo3654 If you actually are so _incredibly stupid_ as to believe the Shroud is a fake, then you must explain how whoever fabricated it must have:
1. Known the precise methods of crucifixion in the first century.
2. Be proficient enough in over 100 scientific disciplines and also collectively outweigh the intelligence of the people who performed hundreds and hundreds of tests on the Shroud and who are not finding any indications of a forgery.
3. Possessed the medical knowledge of a modern expert surgeon.
4. Utilized an art process unknown to any great master, never duplicated before or since.
5. Be able to foresee and approximate principles of photographic negativity that would not be discovered for centuries.
6. Imported a piece of old cloth of Middle Eastern manufacture.
7. Used a coloring agent which would be unaffected by intense heat.
8. Be able to incorporate in his work details (that have only recently been discovered), that the human eye cannot see and that are visible only with the most advanced computer-scanning devices.
9. Be able to reproduce flawlessly, on a nearly flat linen surface, in a single color, undistorted 3-D characteristics of a human body in a 'negative format' on the tops of the threads, while conversely showing the 'blood' as positive and soaking all the way through.
10. Get somewhere the blood of a tortured man and apply it before creating the image.
11. Get limestone from Jerusalem, and pollen particles from the middle east, in special from plants with thorns, that flourish only between March and April.
@@beverlyhurd8556
No evidence for the Shroud in the Bible means that all your pseudo-science Sindonology garbage is the best evidence ...
1 Corinthians 3,19
... for the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, “He catches the wise in their own craftiness”.
@@wipo3654 While no one at this time can prove 100% that the Shroud of Turin once contained the body of Jesus, those of us that have studied it and have at least normal intelligence (which leaves you out), know that it once wrapped Jesus. You have not studied anything at all about the Shroud, have you? How the fabric, the pollen and dirt on it at date to Biblical days of Jerusalem? They have proven was that it contained a body that was beaten like Jesus was, scourged like Jesus was, was crucified like Jesus was AND *wore a cap of thorns* (only Jesus in recorded history was crucified wearing one of those) like Jesus was. To those of us that are blessed with better than average intelligence that spells it out quite clearly. And the thousands of manhours of research do a fine job at showing who was on the Shroud as well. These days, only the super dumb or the super ignorant will call the Shroud a fake.
The only problem is that image has long hair and according to there believe man would not have long hair. Unless he was given up to a nazerite vow but why would Jesus need to make a vow who would he make a vow to. Also he drank wine which you wouldn’t do under a nazerite vow