Your interpretation of Lysithea is so empowering and makes me emotional. I’m an autistic girl and I love headcanoning characters as autistic. It’s a way for me to feel like I belong and also understand myself more. It’s late and I’m not good at words right now but I wanted to leave a comment saying I really love your interpretation and I think you did such a good job clearly presenting your reasoning and defending yourself!! I especially love how you argued against the idea of Lysithea not being autistic because she’s just traumatised. I see that kind of argument all the time around similar headcanons and it’s really frustrating, because like, a lot of autistic people also have trauma and other disorders like anxiety and depression, but that doesn’t make them any less autistic!! Anyways, brilliant video, sorry you had to deal with so many rude and dismissive people, and know that this video will forever rattle around in my little ol brain
Discussing if characters are autistic is fun because in most fictional universes they probably wouldnt know what it is so theyd never outright say it so you can always speculate it Another banger video
It's fun to hear your take because I feel the same about Bernadetta, autism, gameplay, relatable traits, and all. Seeing someone have a similar experience with a character that I'm fond of but haven't had that consideration for is lovely! The deconstruction of Occam's razor through art for objective meanings rather than looking at it as a subjective experience, and considering what it makes you feel, why, and how you bond with it is something that I genuinely think is a great take on the pitfalls of media analysis, because talking about art is often times, to some degree, talking about yourself. Hope this isn't too nerdy and wordy but the point is, this was good!
Saw the thumbnail/title and immediately said “…oh yeah that makes sense.” Being something of a Fire Emblem head myself I’m naturally on the spectrum too and yeah a lot of this clicked naturally the second attention was drawn to it. I think I mainly just didn’t connect the dots with Lysithea because I’ve always been so focused on being in the “Byleth is absolutely a real rounded character you guys just aren’t paying attention” camp and a lot about them hit in that way for me in a way none of the other MUs did, emphasized even more by their increased characterization in Three Hopes. There’s definitely a good few characters all serieswide that can get an autistic reading fairly easily even if they’re definitely in the minority. So when’s someone hitting back with the autistic Bantu essay?
Linhart is way more autistic to me with his hyper fixation to his detriment, poor social skills, and his bafflement at certain norms (don’t speak ill of the dead)
Based video, sorry you had to deal with dumbass redditors though lol. I remember I once posted a meme about Ike being gay to the subreddit, and the thread was also locked after people came out of the woodwork to be like "oMg tHe DeVs diDnT inTenD tHat". Goes to show that a lot of FE gamers are also unfortunately Gamers (tm).
this video summarizes how i feel about media interpretation very nicely. there’s lots of characters in this series i resonate with for the same or similar reasons (being autistic+other things)and it’s very refreshing to know other people feel the same. thank you for sharing!
Great job on the script for this one! It turned out great and I’m glad you could get your thoughts on this subject out there and clear. Also, whoever made the art for the thumbnail must be a rather cool person…
As someone on the spectrum myself, I actually found Lysithea very hard to like for the longest time. I was mostly soured by her whole "I'm not a child" thing, and was especially put off by how she disrespected Hanneman, Marianne and especially Ignatz (though in hindsight Hamneman was also being somewhat insensitive himself). On one hand I thought that she was just being needlessly defensive against people who genuinely had no ill will or intent against her, but on the other hand there was always something about her reactions that hit a little close to home. I can act like that sometimes. Even against friends I've known for years, I can misinterpret a harmless jab or seemingly neutral comment as a personal attack, and I really have to sit back and think for a minute before opening my mouth, because if I opened my mouth in that moment it would be a reply similar to how Lysithea reacts. Once I thought on that, and also took some extra time to admire how dedicated she is to put the little life she has left to use, I warmed up to her quite a bit. Though I think Three Hopes did the most for me in making me like Lysithea. Primarily in that some of the supports in that game are written on the basis of the player having known how her original supports were, and 3 Copes Lysithea taking some initiative to admit where she was wrong. Her supports with Marianne and Ignatz were much needed in this regard (now make Hamneman playable already dammit). Hell, even in her Shez B support she tries her best to admit that she overreacted even though she clearly still feels slighted. I can't tell you the amount of times I've been in that exact same scenario. Ironically, I kinda ship her with Shez purely because his brutal honesty is exactly what she needs. With all that said, your video put a lot of stuff into perspective on whybI felt certain ways when reading her dialogue. While I personally don't know if I would say she's autistic, I can definitely see it, and I do think it makes the character even more interesting as a result!
Ever since I saw your Reddit post about this I was wondering if you'd make a video on it. I'm really glad you did, considering the... state it ended up in. One thing I will say about the "trauma argument" is that a lot of young adult literature features traumatized characters, or more generally, a traumatic event that serves as the basis for the plot, usually because it's relatable. Maybe not Lysithea's trauma specifically, but certainly characters like Raphael, Bernadetta, and Felix have relatable forms of trauma to some people. While your arguments for dismissing the "Lysithea is just traumatized"/Occam's razor argument are sound, Occam's razor also falls flat simply because many of the 3H cast is traumatized either at the beginning of the game, or at the start of the war phase. The differences between the characters often are found outside of their specific traumas. So when the trauma is not relatable, their character traits and goals at least are. All that said, I think your reading of Lysithea is a good one and I appreciate the fact that this is now in video form.
I usually don't take the time to comment on a vid, so that means something in this video really struck with me. I saw some posts on shitpostemblem and wondered what the original thing was about and I'm glad to see that it came from you. As someone on the spectrum as well as being queer, seeing non-hostile simple analysis like this is honestly just soothing. Unfortunately Lysithea really didn't quite click with me throughout the game as her brattiness and 'AM I A CHILD TO YOU?!?' was sometimes overplayed and hard to get through. But I think it's wonderful that so many people can see so much in different characters and relate to them in many different ways! And like you showed in the vid itself, a lot of people are really hostile towards the POSSIBILITY of a queer or neurodivergent reading of characters. So seeing both of those in your analysis of a character I overlooked by her first impressions (what were her Ignatz supports??), this was a real fun watch! Good luck in your hunt for a fun internship as well!
I mean every student has 1 or 2 traits that are being overplayed, like hilda and her laziness, bernadetta and her weird anxiety and "aaaaah get away from me", or raphael talking about food and training. And as brattinness goes there were worse characters like felix and sylvain
You could have also talked about Hapi also. She also had experimentation done to her although not terminal, Hapi is unable to do an action that others don't think about but she has probably the best mindsets out of the entire cast.. Basically Hapi is hot and the best character and I wish more RUclips Fire emblem people talked about her
Good video and thank you for making it, usually most of videos on her are just gameplay analysis or memes so it nice to see a character analysis, especially when it different from everyone else.
Hey sorry that people were being mean to you. Idk what their problem was. I was shocked that people in the meme reddit were clowning on you. I actually thought the meme mocking the meme making fun of you was the general consensus. I hope you dont feel deferred from making more earnest posts. I can relate to FE redditors being so needlessly mean after making something in earnest.
Excellent vid! I’m a big fan of Golden Deer characters (Ignatz being my favorite) so I like seeing analysis of the Deer squad Also I think Linhardt is definitely neurodivergent too
Ngl I never really thought much about her being such, but now that you pointed it out some things do make sense. Speaking as an autistic person she does hit a lot of boxes similar to me and what I've heard from my past doctors, although realistically by a certain age most people will usually grow out of certain symptoms, considering the medieval setting it makes sense why she'd somewhat struggle by a later age than most
as someone who is on the spectrum, thank you thank you thank you so much for making this. I saw the said reddit post you mentioned in the beginning and could not figure out how people could be utterly awful towards a theory with a lot of build up. Thank you for this
Lysithea is my favorite character because I relate a lot to her personality and I also just have always had a soft spot for the "magic genius" unit archetype. ✨
Lysithea and Sylvain are my two absolute favs for Three Houses, and I will always love them. Usually when I mention anything about enjoying Sylvain everyone gives me a certain look, but Actually I forgot where I was going with that. Anyhow, I got some of that sweet, sweet ADHD and I would gladly welcome Lysithea into the Neurodivergent t(h)reehouse
@@5Points Yeah, I did. Also I think what I was gonna say in regards to Sylvain is that some of the community has ripped me a bit of a new one as well for enjoying him, so I can kinda relate to the (undeserved) hate you've received in regards to saying Lysithea is potentially Neurodivergent
The biggest brain is that all Fire Emblem characters are autistic But seriously though, if someone sees themself in a character/have experiences that make them interpret a character differently from you, don't have a salty meltdown over it. There's no harm in thinking Lysithea or any character is autistic. Different people, different interpretations.
Now I watched the video and I can say is cool. I'm in the autistic spectrum so seeing characters in media fit in it is always a pleasure. If in some year I actually play three houses I'll choose golden deer so I can see if Lysithea dethrones Jungo from the hit game Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor 2 as my favourite character that could fit in the autistic spectrum.
Tbh, there are some more characters I found myself in. Linhardt is probably the most obvious one. Also I always loved Lysithea but never could quite get behind why.
I think I saw the original post, and I didn’t know it got so toxic. I didn’t really see it based on the limited info in that original post, and I said as much in a reply that was apparently not as toxic as what most people said in response. I actually see it now, so I think the more in-depth look here actually did a great job explaining why this head canon works. I’m honestly not sure whether they intended this, but it really works.
Great video. I wasn't gonna click initially because I don't give a shit about 3H and its characters, but this was a joy to listen to. I think it's always great to see people finding themselves represented in media, especially when it's autistic or queer people. I'm pretty surprised Engage was so open and diverse in its cast too, having many characters with at least a few autistic or queer traits, which I thought was pretty neat.
I appreciate this video not just for its topics, but for how insightful and articulate it is! I've been dabbling in writing FE characters (maybe for a ROM hack?), and I want to hint that a character might be autistic. I will definitely be coming back to this video for said writing purposes. :) It's a shame to be reminded that so few people care to understand autism still :/ But hey! You're helping pave the path forward with the way you discussed it in the video. Thanks!
one more argument is her as a unit, she pretty much only has 3 good growth stats with the rest being really bad, she also has the most weaknesses in the game at base along with bernie and yuribird and there are several supports and dialog wich actually seem to reference their strenghts and weaknesses(sylvain with reason, yuri with riding, hubert with flying, leonie with bows, claude with flying and marianne with riding and flying) so these are canon to some extend wich means even as a unit she is very picky about what she is good in
Watch the video and i agree i relate to her as an autistic person but i still stand by my original comment because i don't like the concept of death of the author but it's an interesting discussion and i wouldn't have objection if IS said she because it isn't like such concepts is foreign to Three Houses
I've only just found this video while it's a genuinely good analysis of Lysithea, your analysis of Edelgard is rather dismissive, in my opinion. 3:38 "If only there was another character that went through the same thing" but doesn't show the same traits of autism. - Edelgard doesn't hyperfixate: She does. A lot. If there's one thing Edelgard does, it's hyperfixate. She's hyperfixated on removing the crest system and the nobility. She started a war because of that. A lot of her supports mention either crests or nobility (Hanneman, Linhardt, Ferdinand.) She disregards Linhardt's studies as not only do crests not interest her but they go against what she does want. She does this until she realises that Linhardt's research *can* benefit her and then she fully supports him, enabling him to take his time and fully fund his research to get the best results possible. - Edelgard is well spoken: This is true but I believe it's a mask. Masking, as I'm sure you know, is a common tactic by autistic people to "blend in" with the neurotypical. The only person she doesn't wear this mask around is Byleth around the end of CF (as seen if you talk to her in her room in CF when she talks about her Byleth painting) after they completely turned tail on Rhea, saved her life from Kostas and chose to go to war with her even if they didn't agree with her methods. She even keeps the mask on around Hubert despite them knowing each other since they were children. In Azure Gleam, at some part during the game Edelgard become completely mute after being forcibly turned into the Hegemon Husk. I think this might be the "real" Edelgard, someone who's scared of anything and everything around them but she fights that fear with a brave face. - Edelgard is emotionably sensitive: No, I really don't think so. She starts a war at the age of 18 because she hates the heirarchy, ignoring any sort of opinion that it would be a bad idea. In her supports with Bernadetta and Ferdinand, she tends to lose her temper quicker than most characters that talk to them. She's also extremely harsh to Byleth for mourning their dad's death. She's downright cruel to Linhardt, basically saying that his crest research is useless and it will never amount to anything during the early supports. So my personal theory is that the crests are representitive of autism itself and that the experimentation was an unintentional reference to medical practices intended to "cure" autism. Although ultimately failing, history has tried to remove autism from the world or even use autism as a weapon in order to remove something else, vaccines being a very common example. Instead of "curing" autism, Twsitd tried to heighten it so they could create "superhumans" that can't focus anything other than their goals and then manipulate those that were tested upon to doing their bidding.
I always took Lindhart as autistic ... due to of his lack in interest any thing unless it was something he was interested in ....... which is a common trait for most autistic people
Incredibly so. As an autistic person, I’d say the most obvious autistic character is Linhardt. Next most obvious are Ferdinand and Lysithea. A lot of the characters are incredibly autism-coded but especially those three
"I am not a magical woman that kills people." UGH, UNSUBBED. jk. I think it's also worth mentioning that FE tends to have characters that have a small handful of quirky, personality traits that drives pretty much everything about them. You're bound to have one or two characters that fit some check boxes somewhere, intended or not. Still, love me my magic murder gremlins.
This kinda turned out to be more of an argumentative essay rather than an analytical one, so I'm somewhat dissapointed but I still really enjoyed the video!
As a minor note, Hapi undergoes a similar trauma as Lysithea and Edelgard. Does she also exhibit those same symptoms as Lysithea or no like Edelgard? I ask because as a neurotypical person I'm not sure if Hapi would also read as autistic.
I'm ok with this being a part of my headcanon. Also, there isn't much evidence to refute it, eh? And all the more reason to give her all the statboosters she could ever dream of, gotta baby our precious little Death Knight Luchador.
"Death of the Author" as an analytical ideology is not a strong argument in favor of completely ignoring a writer's intentions, frankly. When taken too seriously, it's basically a massive, arrogant cope used to justify reading subtext into a given work that isn't actually there. You can assert any nonsensical idea you want, making everything and thus nothing valid, depriving the work of meaning rather than adding it. The fact that you _can_ deconstruct anything subjectively like this by willfully deciding to ignore context and substituting it for whatever you want is not really that valuable or intelligent. It's just wishful thinking, and I've seen it get quite childish and malicious at times. That said, art is ultimately a communication of ideas between people, and complex communication, especially about ambiguous ideas born of our fantasies, will always be imprecise, thus open to interpretation beyond simple misunderstanding. As far as I can tell, you've only ever approached this notion that Lysithea could potentially be autistic as a theory, and you have considerable evidence from the game itself to support that theory. I don't think it's that controversial a take, given your claim isn't that it's surely true, but just a possibility, whether intended or not. That's the sort of interpretation that _does_ expand on the potential meaning and depth of a work, so it's a shame it garnered a hostile response. Part of it is that people are just twitchy these days. They're tired of someone from any given demographic "claiming" characters and acting like their headcanon is necessarily real, and if you disagree you're some sort of bigot. To be honest, when I clicked on the video, I was prepared for a much less humble and reasonable argument on your part. It doesn't justify people jumping to conclusions and then straight down your throat, though. There's still a needless stigma and othering lingering around autism, too. Another commenter mentioned that in many fictional universes, ASD _as a diagnosis_ doesn't exist, therefore it would never be called out anyway, so it stands to reason you'd need to read into a character to draw what is ultimately an intended conclusion. Given that, though, I think it's interesting how, without couching it in this specific context, the traits that support the idea that Lysithea could be autistic are just character traits. The behaviors which tend to result from neurology on the shallower end of the autism spectrum are really not that unusual at all. It's only in relatively recent history that the similarities in neurology to more severe cases were drawn, which is the association that scares people. Before these behaviors were pathologized, they were just the character that some people had that nobody thought anything much of... and practically speaking, that hasn't stopped being the case even now that it's been diagnosed and given a label.
I dont get the least biggoted redditor thing, if anything the comment seemed funny and just looking to make a joke rather than actually i dont know, hate autistic people or something like that, people need to grow some skin.
@@5Points I guess if we see it from that perspective then yeah, stereotypes are bad, but at the same time i found it funny and i doubt im the unique one.
Doesn't matter. Is it possible for someone to write that comment as bigotry? Certainly. Ironic bigotry forces others to either assume it's not ironic, or potentially ignore unironic bigotry. The latter is not a risk worth taking. You can still be funny and edgy without using bigoted language, just do that and make life better for everybody.
@@alienplatypus7712 Ok this is my biggest concern and i would like if you could answer it, how was that biggoted ? He didnt really insult in a direct way at max it was a stereotype that could be a bit disrespectful for autistic people or people that like either model trains or sonic oc's.
Mastermind is weaponized hyper-fixation and you cannot convince me otherwise.
Jeritza is my favorite autistic icon
This means Emile (Jeritza) is also autistic, which I totally agree with too
Three Houses Redditors when you try to have an actually interesting discussion about a character instead of just regurgitating the same five arguments
it's reddit, they only talk about "edelgard is evil, no fck you dimitri is evil" or dragon mommy with 2 big melons
Your interpretation of Lysithea is so empowering and makes me emotional. I’m an autistic girl and I love headcanoning characters as autistic. It’s a way for me to feel like I belong and also understand myself more. It’s late and I’m not good at words right now but I wanted to leave a comment saying I really love your interpretation and I think you did such a good job clearly presenting your reasoning and defending yourself!! I especially love how you argued against the idea of Lysithea not being autistic because she’s just traumatised. I see that kind of argument all the time around similar headcanons and it’s really frustrating, because like, a lot of autistic people also have trauma and other disorders like anxiety and depression, but that doesn’t make them any less autistic!! Anyways, brilliant video, sorry you had to deal with so many rude and dismissive people, and know that this video will forever rattle around in my little ol brain
Thanks! Making this video was a little stressful but I'll always be proud of for comments like these
Discussing if characters are autistic is fun because in most fictional universes they probably wouldnt know what it is so theyd never outright say it so you can always speculate it
Another banger video
It's fun to hear your take because I feel the same about Bernadetta, autism, gameplay, relatable traits, and all. Seeing someone have a similar experience with a character that I'm fond of but haven't had that consideration for is lovely!
The deconstruction of Occam's razor through art for objective meanings rather than looking at it as a subjective experience, and considering what it makes you feel, why, and how you bond with it is something that I genuinely think is a great take on the pitfalls of media analysis, because talking about art is often times, to some degree, talking about yourself.
Hope this isn't too nerdy and wordy but the point is, this was good!
Saw the thumbnail/title and immediately said “…oh yeah that makes sense.” Being something of a Fire Emblem head myself I’m naturally on the spectrum too and yeah a lot of this clicked naturally the second attention was drawn to it. I think I mainly just didn’t connect the dots with Lysithea because I’ve always been so focused on being in the “Byleth is absolutely a real rounded character you guys just aren’t paying attention” camp and a lot about them hit in that way for me in a way none of the other MUs did, emphasized even more by their increased characterization in Three Hopes. There’s definitely a good few characters all serieswide that can get an autistic reading fairly easily even if they’re definitely in the minority.
So when’s someone hitting back with the autistic Bantu essay?
They'd have 2 lines of dialogue to work with so it'd certainly be an interesting analysis
Linhart is way more autistic to me with his hyper fixation to his detriment, poor social skills, and his bafflement at certain norms (don’t speak ill of the dead)
Autistic Bantu is an interesting thought!
Based video, sorry you had to deal with dumbass redditors though lol. I remember I once posted a meme about Ike being gay to the subreddit, and the thread was also locked after people came out of the woodwork to be like "oMg tHe DeVs diDnT inTenD tHat". Goes to show that a lot of FE gamers are also unfortunately Gamers (tm).
this video summarizes how i feel about media interpretation very nicely. there’s lots of characters in this series i resonate with for the same or similar reasons (being autistic+other things)and it’s very refreshing to know other people feel the same. thank you for sharing!
I can get behind this headcanon and I think this video has a good message about media and art analysis.
Finally, a way I can appreciate your arguments (I can't read)
Great job on the script for this one! It turned out great and I’m glad you could get your thoughts on this subject out there and clear. Also, whoever made the art for the thumbnail must be a rather cool person…
As someone on the spectrum myself, I actually found Lysithea very hard to like for the longest time. I was mostly soured by her whole "I'm not a child" thing, and was especially put off by how she disrespected Hanneman, Marianne and especially Ignatz (though in hindsight Hamneman was also being somewhat insensitive himself). On one hand I thought that she was just being needlessly defensive against people who genuinely had no ill will or intent against her, but on the other hand there was always something about her reactions that hit a little close to home.
I can act like that sometimes. Even against friends I've known for years, I can misinterpret a harmless jab or seemingly neutral comment as a personal attack, and I really have to sit back and think for a minute before opening my mouth, because if I opened my mouth in that moment it would be a reply similar to how Lysithea reacts. Once I thought on that, and also took some extra time to admire how dedicated she is to put the little life she has left to use, I warmed up to her quite a bit.
Though I think Three Hopes did the most for me in making me like Lysithea. Primarily in that some of the supports in that game are written on the basis of the player having known how her original supports were, and 3 Copes Lysithea taking some initiative to admit where she was wrong. Her supports with Marianne and Ignatz were much needed in this regard (now make Hamneman playable already dammit).
Hell, even in her Shez B support she tries her best to admit that she overreacted even though she clearly still feels slighted. I can't tell you the amount of times I've been in that exact same scenario. Ironically, I kinda ship her with Shez purely because his brutal honesty is exactly what she needs.
With all that said, your video put a lot of stuff into perspective on whybI felt certain ways when reading her dialogue. While I personally don't know if I would say she's autistic, I can definitely see it, and I do think it makes the character even more interesting as a result!
Ever since I saw your Reddit post about this I was wondering if you'd make a video on it. I'm really glad you did, considering the... state it ended up in.
One thing I will say about the "trauma argument" is that a lot of young adult literature features traumatized characters, or more generally, a traumatic event that serves as the basis for the plot, usually because it's relatable. Maybe not Lysithea's trauma specifically, but certainly characters like Raphael, Bernadetta, and Felix have relatable forms of trauma to some people.
While your arguments for dismissing the "Lysithea is just traumatized"/Occam's razor argument are sound, Occam's razor also falls flat simply because many of the 3H cast is traumatized either at the beginning of the game, or at the start of the war phase. The differences between the characters often are found outside of their specific traumas. So when the trauma is not relatable, their character traits and goals at least are.
All that said, I think your reading of Lysithea is a good one and I appreciate the fact that this is now in video form.
I usually don't take the time to comment on a vid, so that means something in this video really struck with me. I saw some posts on shitpostemblem and wondered what the original thing was about and I'm glad to see that it came from you. As someone on the spectrum as well as being queer, seeing non-hostile simple analysis like this is honestly just soothing. Unfortunately Lysithea really didn't quite click with me throughout the game as her brattiness and 'AM I A CHILD TO YOU?!?' was sometimes overplayed and hard to get through. But I think it's wonderful that so many people can see so much in different characters and relate to them in many different ways!
And like you showed in the vid itself, a lot of people are really hostile towards the POSSIBILITY of a queer or neurodivergent reading of characters. So seeing both of those in your analysis of a character I overlooked by her first impressions (what were her Ignatz supports??), this was a real fun watch!
Good luck in your hunt for a fun internship as well!
Thank you!
I mean every student has 1 or 2 traits that are being overplayed, like hilda and her laziness, bernadetta and her weird anxiety and "aaaaah get away from me", or raphael talking about food and training. And as brattinness goes there were worse characters like felix and sylvain
You could have also talked about Hapi also. She also had experimentation done to her although not terminal, Hapi is unable to do an action that others don't think about but she has probably the best mindsets out of the entire cast..
Basically Hapi is hot and the best character and I wish more RUclips Fire emblem people talked about her
Hapi is ok, not that great honestly. And this video has nothing to do with her, she is kinda mid as a character
@@mihaimercenarul7467 I think they meant refer to her when comparing her with Lysithea in that section of the video
Sigh
Good video and thank you for making it, usually most of videos on her are just gameplay analysis or memes so it nice to see a character analysis, especially when it different from everyone else.
Hey sorry that people were being mean to you. Idk what their problem was.
I was shocked that people in the meme reddit were clowning on you. I actually thought the meme mocking the meme making fun of you was the general consensus.
I hope you dont feel deferred from making more earnest posts. I can relate to FE redditors being so needlessly mean after making something in earnest.
Excellent vid! I’m a big fan of Golden Deer characters (Ignatz being my favorite) so I like seeing analysis of the Deer squad
Also I think Linhardt is definitely neurodivergent too
Ngl I never really thought much about her being such, but now that you pointed it out some things do make sense. Speaking as an autistic person she does hit a lot of boxes similar to me and what I've heard from my past doctors, although realistically by a certain age most people will usually grow out of certain symptoms, considering the medieval setting it makes sense why she'd somewhat struggle by a later age than most
as someone who is on the spectrum, thank you thank you thank you so much for making this. I saw the said reddit post you mentioned in the beginning and could not figure out how people could be utterly awful towards a theory with a lot of build up. Thank you for this
This video is such an banger, thank you a lot, i love it a lot. Have a great day, as always King.
Well this explains why I love Lysithea so much
This would explain why I like her so much with me having Autism too.Shes my favorite three houses character.
Glad you liked the vid!
This why i can relate to her and she became my favorite character From three houses due to being on the spectrum myself i can relate to her❤
Analyze Frost next
Lysithea is my favorite character because I relate a lot to her personality and I also just have always had a soft spot for the "magic genius" unit archetype. ✨
Hell yeah I love it when people find good representation for themselves, even if it’s interpretation and not explicitly canon
Lysithea and Sylvain are my two absolute favs for Three Houses, and I will always love them. Usually when I mention anything about enjoying Sylvain everyone gives me a certain look, but
Actually I forgot where I was going with that. Anyhow, I got some of that sweet, sweet ADHD and I would gladly welcome Lysithea into the Neurodivergent t(h)reehouse
Glad you liked it?
@@5Points Yeah, I did. Also I think what I was gonna say in regards to Sylvain is that some of the community has ripped me a bit of a new one as well for enjoying him, so I can kinda relate to the (undeserved) hate you've received in regards to saying Lysithea is potentially Neurodivergent
Oh damn was this on Lysithea or a call out cuz damn does this resonate with me...ok not the trauma obviously, but still
Autistic person here! I agree. Personally I headcannon Byleth, Alear, Zelkov, Setsuna, Veloria, Corrin, and Selkie as autistic,
Oh that's cool, I love Veloria. Why do you think she's autistic?
I relate a lot to her love of finding little trinkets that others might find odd and I also have some of her mannerisms.
The biggest brain is that all Fire Emblem characters are autistic
But seriously though, if someone sees themself in a character/have experiences that make them interpret a character differently from you, don't have a salty meltdown over it. There's no harm in thinking Lysithea or any character is autistic. Different people, different interpretations.
I didn’t realize you were the original poster! The reactions to the post were so odd, but idk… what else do I expect from redditors
OMG never when would’ve thought she’d have it, but in retrospect this makes so much sense to not be the case
TIL I like Lysithea because she represents me.
Now this seems like a re-
*thinks about it for a minute*
okay that does sound about right carry on
Now I watched the video and I can say is cool.
I'm in the autistic spectrum so seeing characters in media fit in it is always a pleasure.
If in some year I actually play three houses I'll choose golden deer so I can see if Lysithea dethrones Jungo from the hit game Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor 2 as my favourite character that could fit in the autistic spectrum.
hell yeah
Enjoyed this, didn't consider that Lysithea could be on the spectrum too. Nice job dude
Tbh, there are some more characters I found myself in. Linhardt is probably the most obvious one.
Also I always loved Lysithea but never could quite get behind why.
I think I saw the original post, and I didn’t know it got so toxic. I didn’t really see it based on the limited info in that original post, and I said as much in a reply that was apparently not as toxic as what most people said in response. I actually see it now, so I think the more in-depth look here actually did a great job explaining why this head canon works. I’m honestly not sure whether they intended this, but it really works.
Great video. I wasn't gonna click initially because I don't give a shit about 3H and its characters, but this was a joy to listen to.
I think it's always great to see people finding themselves represented in media, especially when it's autistic or queer people.
I'm pretty surprised Engage was so open and diverse in its cast too, having many characters with at least a few autistic or queer traits, which I thought was pretty neat.
It makes me happy that I could get somebody how doesn't care about 3H at all to appreciate my favorite aspect of it
I appreciate this video not just for its topics, but for how insightful and articulate it is! I've been dabbling in writing FE characters (maybe for a ROM hack?), and I want to hint that a character might be autistic. I will definitely be coming back to this video for said writing purposes. :)
It's a shame to be reminded that so few people care to understand autism still :/
But hey! You're helping pave the path forward with the way you discussed it in the video. Thanks!
I totally agree ❤❤❤ I love lysithea as a disabled character and as just a very relatable character fjfjfjfkk
one more argument is her as a unit, she pretty much only has 3 good growth stats with the rest being really bad, she also has the most weaknesses in the game at base along with bernie and yuribird and there are several supports and dialog wich actually seem to reference their strenghts and weaknesses(sylvain with reason, yuri with riding, hubert with flying, leonie with bows, claude with flying and marianne with riding and flying) so these are canon to some extend wich means even as a unit she is very picky about what she is good in
I really enjoyed your OG post but I was too scared to discuss in the comments because well
It’s Reddit
The lysithea sweep!!!!
Watch the video and i agree i relate to her as an autistic person but i still stand by my original comment because i don't like the concept of death of the author but it's an interesting discussion and i wouldn't have objection if IS said she because it isn't like such concepts is foreign to Three Houses
I've only just found this video while it's a genuinely good analysis of Lysithea, your analysis of Edelgard is rather dismissive, in my opinion.
3:38 "If only there was another character that went through the same thing" but doesn't show the same traits of autism.
- Edelgard doesn't hyperfixate: She does. A lot. If there's one thing Edelgard does, it's hyperfixate. She's hyperfixated on removing the crest system and the nobility. She started a war because of that. A lot of her supports mention either crests or nobility (Hanneman, Linhardt, Ferdinand.) She disregards Linhardt's studies as not only do crests not interest her but they go against what she does want. She does this until she realises that Linhardt's research *can* benefit her and then she fully supports him, enabling him to take his time and fully fund his research to get the best results possible.
- Edelgard is well spoken: This is true but I believe it's a mask. Masking, as I'm sure you know, is a common tactic by autistic people to "blend in" with the neurotypical. The only person she doesn't wear this mask around is Byleth around the end of CF (as seen if you talk to her in her room in CF when she talks about her Byleth painting) after they completely turned tail on Rhea, saved her life from Kostas and chose to go to war with her even if they didn't agree with her methods. She even keeps the mask on around Hubert despite them knowing each other since they were children. In Azure Gleam, at some part during the game Edelgard become completely mute after being forcibly turned into the Hegemon Husk. I think this might be the "real" Edelgard, someone who's scared of anything and everything around them but she fights that fear with a brave face.
- Edelgard is emotionably sensitive: No, I really don't think so. She starts a war at the age of 18 because she hates the heirarchy, ignoring any sort of opinion that it would be a bad idea. In her supports with Bernadetta and Ferdinand, she tends to lose her temper quicker than most characters that talk to them. She's also extremely harsh to Byleth for mourning their dad's death. She's downright cruel to Linhardt, basically saying that his crest research is useless and it will never amount to anything during the early supports.
So my personal theory is that the crests are representitive of autism itself and that the experimentation was an unintentional reference to medical practices intended to "cure" autism. Although ultimately failing, history has tried to remove autism from the world or even use autism as a weapon in order to remove something else, vaccines being a very common example. Instead of "curing" autism, Twsitd tried to heighten it so they could create "superhumans" that can't focus anything other than their goals and then manipulate those that were tested upon to doing their bidding.
I always took Lindhart as autistic ... due to of his lack in interest any thing unless it was something he was interested in ....... which is a common trait for most autistic people
All I needed to read was the title and I was already onboard
Incredibly so. As an autistic person, I’d say the most obvious autistic character is Linhardt. Next most obvious are Ferdinand and Lysithea. A lot of the characters are incredibly autism-coded but especially those three
I gotta watch this later but this is about to be a 5 points banger
It has been 9 hours I have watched it and it was indeed a banger
but I forgot to hit reply until now oops
Another 5 Points banger. Word
"I am not a magical woman that kills people."
UGH, UNSUBBED.
jk. I think it's also worth mentioning that FE tends to have characters that have a small handful of quirky, personality traits that drives pretty much everything about them. You're bound to have one or two characters that fit some check boxes somewhere, intended or not. Still, love me my magic murder gremlins.
This kinda turned out to be more of an argumentative essay rather than an analytical one, so I'm somewhat dissapointed but I still really enjoyed the video!
9:26 bro why did you say it like if the one piece was real.
Seeing a nermal that man pfp is giving me psychic damage but in a good way
@@5Points you get used to it.
As a minor note, Hapi undergoes a similar trauma as Lysithea and Edelgard. Does she also exhibit those same symptoms as Lysithea or no like Edelgard? I ask because as a neurotypical person I'm not sure if Hapi would also read as autistic.
Idk I never beat the dlc since I thought that mission where the monsters kept respawning was ass
4:16 what you’ve never agreed that dice and belf are autistic?
I'm ok with this being a part of my headcanon. Also, there isn't much evidence to refute it, eh? And all the more reason to give her all the statboosters she could ever dream of, gotta baby our precious little Death Knight Luchador.
no she is a tactical nuke
She can be both
true
Algorithm spell \(0o0)/
Nope because the writers never wrote her to be jt
This comment is proof that you didn't actually watch the video
@@5Points I wrote this while I was slacking off in the toilet at work I'll watch it later
cow tools
"Death of the Author" as an analytical ideology is not a strong argument in favor of completely ignoring a writer's intentions, frankly. When taken too seriously, it's basically a massive, arrogant cope used to justify reading subtext into a given work that isn't actually there. You can assert any nonsensical idea you want, making everything and thus nothing valid, depriving the work of meaning rather than adding it. The fact that you _can_ deconstruct anything subjectively like this by willfully deciding to ignore context and substituting it for whatever you want is not really that valuable or intelligent. It's just wishful thinking, and I've seen it get quite childish and malicious at times.
That said, art is ultimately a communication of ideas between people, and complex communication, especially about ambiguous ideas born of our fantasies, will always be imprecise, thus open to interpretation beyond simple misunderstanding. As far as I can tell, you've only ever approached this notion that Lysithea could potentially be autistic as a theory, and you have considerable evidence from the game itself to support that theory. I don't think it's that controversial a take, given your claim isn't that it's surely true, but just a possibility, whether intended or not. That's the sort of interpretation that _does_ expand on the potential meaning and depth of a work, so it's a shame it garnered a hostile response.
Part of it is that people are just twitchy these days. They're tired of someone from any given demographic "claiming" characters and acting like their headcanon is necessarily real, and if you disagree you're some sort of bigot. To be honest, when I clicked on the video, I was prepared for a much less humble and reasonable argument on your part. It doesn't justify people jumping to conclusions and then straight down your throat, though.
There's still a needless stigma and othering lingering around autism, too. Another commenter mentioned that in many fictional universes, ASD _as a diagnosis_ doesn't exist, therefore it would never be called out anyway, so it stands to reason you'd need to read into a character to draw what is ultimately an intended conclusion. Given that, though, I think it's interesting how, without couching it in this specific context, the traits that support the idea that Lysithea could be autistic are just character traits.
The behaviors which tend to result from neurology on the shallower end of the autism spectrum are really not that unusual at all. It's only in relatively recent history that the similarities in neurology to more severe cases were drawn, which is the association that scares people. Before these behaviors were pathologized, they were just the character that some people had that nobody thought anything much of... and practically speaking, that hasn't stopped being the case even now that it's been diagnosed and given a label.
This is way too much
reddit moment
I dont get the least biggoted redditor thing, if anything the comment seemed funny and just looking to make a joke rather than actually i dont know, hate autistic people or something like that, people need to grow some skin.
Stereotypes are bad actually
@@5Points I guess if we see it from that perspective then yeah, stereotypes are bad, but at the same time i found it funny and i doubt im the unique one.
Doesn't matter. Is it possible for someone to write that comment as bigotry? Certainly. Ironic bigotry forces others to either assume it's not ironic, or potentially ignore unironic bigotry. The latter is not a risk worth taking. You can still be funny and edgy without using bigoted language, just do that and make life better for everybody.
I'm autistic and I found it funny.
@@alienplatypus7712 Ok this is my biggest concern and i would like if you could answer it, how was that biggoted ? He didnt really insult in a direct way at max it was a stereotype that could be a bit disrespectful for autistic people or people that like either model trains or sonic oc's.