300lb sparring partner kneed me in the cup passing my guard 3 times in a row. Don't think ill ever train with my cup off. I get kneed in the cup constantly...
Last week during a friendly roll I lapel dragged a lighter opponent with a bit too much force and they fell forward on top of me driving their knee hard into my groin. I waited for the intense pain to subside but it just wasn’t going away. I ended up getting taken to hospital in an ambulance where they took me to surgery. My right testicle was ruptured and had to be removed. Don’t underestimate the danger of groin shots. To ban foul cups in BJJ competition is completely irresponsible. I wrote to the IBJJF but got no reply. Something needs to be done to change this situation.
I wore a cup for a couple years until it shifted on me while doing an arm bar while practicing. So some of the package was out and some was inside. It wasn't pleasant. IBJJF doesn't allow them so I never use them now. And on mouth pieces, if you get one made from the dentist you really don't feel like you are wearing one.
Diamond cup is the only one I felt I could do martial arts with. I was practicing take downs with partner on my first few jujitsu classes and he complained to me during a inner thigh throw that I hit him in the groin. I felt it was just irresponsible for him to not be wearing a cup and he shouldn’t be being so pissed about someone who is new barely grazing him. I was absolutely shocked that anyone wouldn’t wear a cup as a white belt. At the time it felt like people are just embarrassed or lazy about wearing one. Doing like knee slide passes, uchimatas and all sorts of floating passes it seems like getting kneed or kicked would be something you should accept is you refuse to protect yourself. I wasn’t in anyway trying to hit him and was surprised when he made it so emotionally heated. Honestly I quit that day because I just couldn’t understand that gym at all. Everyone felt kinda down and depressed especially the teacher and realizing I was the only one wearing a cup I felt and trying to learn every mess up would be read as irresponsible but I have years of Muay Thai training and had never gotten a single complaint. Don’t know what my point is except I guess I just don’t understand why it isn’t something normal given JuJitsu has more shin to crotch and elbow to crotch contact than a Bruce Lee film. Why do so many people not protect themselves when there white belts? I feel like it was just a bad environment but what you’re saying makes no sense to me besides the competition rules. But the UFC allows metal cups and If your most likely injury in JuJitsu is getting hit in the junk why is it taboo?
Because it's practically cheating. If you armbar somebody with a cup, you have an unfair advantage because of the solid fulcrum. Wearing a cup in pure jiu jitsu is disrespectful to your training partners. If you can't handle being hit in the nuts, learn to avoid it. To be fair, I had to have surgery because of ruptured nut. I still won't wear a cup though, for the aforementioned reasons.
@@johnnycaralta dude. I wear a cup when I go out to the bar with friends or any place where violence might happen. Clearly you don't have saggy balls. You wouldn't understand. And it's not cheating if everyone protects their balls. Because THEY SHOULD. Why would I want soft Dick and Ball contact while rolling? Disgusting. Wear. A. Damn. Cup.
@@johnnycaralta Then just don't use your cup to leverage armbar it's not that deep. Most people care more about their nuts than bjj, you may feel superior putting your balls in danger but others do not care.
@@user-nk8zx1yw8s That's not how that works. "You're on steroids? Just don't use your strength. You have a rod in your leg? Just don't kick with that leg."
When I did MMA there was an instance a knee actually broke someones cup. Separate benefit is that the cup raises your groin area and will help your armbar get more leverage.
I can understand both sides of this but I think the risk of catching a hard knee elbow or a bigger guy just falling on you in the wrong way and nailing you in the nuts being a bigger risk. Some of these guys on here saying you just gotta man up and deal with it and saying it just hurts a little bit sounds crazy to me. That shit will put you down for several minutes
Can you do a video on how to not hurt your junk everytime you do a armbar or triangle or pretty much anything with your legs I know you alr did one like 5 years ago but I need a updated one chewwy
I am sure chewy will come out with fire video but I always thought armbar was to be finished on hip not crouch. Only had that issue first few times I tried arm bar.
When you do the armband you pinch your legs together to stop it from hitting the jewels and likewise for a triangle with the triangle you’re supposed to be choking the other person with their arm and your thing on their corroded arteries
A teammate of mine in the last tournament got his testicles ripped apart to the point he needed surgery, can't remember the exact details but he wears a cup always now so I don't blame anyone who does
When rolling with my coach , how should I go about it? Can you make a video? About what the best possible way to roll after a class, for improving as fast as possible
Try to focus on your technique. If you go like it's the mundials then they're likely to shut your shit down quickly. Whereas if you play at jiu jitsu and try to learn from it you'll both get a lot more out of it. Might be different at a top competitive gym but this is a general rule of thumb.
Hey, I had a question. Not sure if this comment section is the right place to post it. I go to a gym tat doesn't have a particularly high level of competition in jiu jisu. The highest we have here are blue belts but they're pretty good too. But the point is that alongside myself, there are tons of beginners who train there. Now, even though I'm a white belt, I have some experience with the techniques, especially with mount escapes and certain guard passes. Here's where I have a major doubt. When training with partners who are completely new to this, I often am in situations where they're either drilling the technique incorrectly, or stopping every couple of seconds because they're confused about what to do (and this is after the instructor demonstrates the technique a number of times, so they feel awkward to ask again). In such situations, should I just shut up and let them do their incorrect thing? Because I don't want to be "THAT guy" who sucks and still feels the need to instruct less experienced people about what to do. What makes it even more frustrating is that when the new person is doing the technique incorrectly, and insists that I am the one who doing it wrong and wants to instruct me instead of asking the coach. What should I do in such situations? Nowadays I don't worry about asking the coaches to repeat a technique as many times as I need to see it to understand it, but newbies still have that reservations. How can I get around this without choosing to exclusively train with more experienced people?
I always help people until it's perfect and if they're in the gym for the right reasons they appreciate it. when there's a disagreement I try both ways to understand their perspective - sometimes I need the help of a coach to explain exactly why we are doing things a certain way, even though I'm a higher belt nowadays I still miss little details at the start of the drills but by the end, me and partner are in a good spot with the technique. I want them to give feedback to me and therefore it is in my best interest to have them understand the technique so we can compare and improve
I was always afraid someome would feel it and get the wrong idea. Lol but man there are a few times i wish i could forget that i would have liked to be wearing one lol
One of my nuts usually slips out the side of the cup then if cup takes body pressure its pretty painfull. Testicular torsion is not somthing i want at bjj class.
Wear compression underwear it keeps the boys tucked in. I must have trained for like two years before trying out compression underwear total game changer
Hi thanks lov the channel. Still unsure what to do. In my school one Teacher said no cups cause of arm bars . And others teachers say ok just let your partner know. So defat trying to do that but would be nice to have clear rules/. Advise on this.
best gains i've made were after taking long breaks - up to six months forced break from the mats (although i kept myself fit and did watch a lot of JJ vids) i come back after a long break and have made noticeable improvements.
I wore a cup and a mouth guard when I first started grappling. They were both gone within a couple weeks. The mouth guard spent more time behind my ear than in my mouth and I just didn’t like how the cup felt. I legitimately don’t remember ever rolling with someone with a cup so I’d guess the vast majority of people are not wearing cups.
Put the mouth guard back in unless you have full dental 🤣 just for rolls and a 50$+ top side only one. In 5 years of training it saved my teeth about 5 times.
We had a guy get kneed in the balls during rolling that needed hospitalization. His testicle swole to the size of an orange. Doc said he was lucky not to lose it.
Mobility training and stretching, work out what the pain is caused from. I have lower back pain that is now manageable provided I stretch my hips properly
Pretty much out of the gate, I got sick of guys grabbing the gi material around my hip and occasionally getting part of my ball sack tangled up in their grip. I just don't wanna deal with that shit. I think I'm the only guy in my current gym who wears a cup, but whatever. Maybe I'm just a prude.
I remember and early NHB event which was I dunno if it was russia or ukraine against USA and the americans noticed it was taking longer and longer each fight for their opponents to get to the cage. They only had one groin guard between them and were swapping it each time...
hey guys could use some advice, I went to my 2nd class today, I went to an all levels class where the moves were a little more advanced and we were drilling a scissor takedown. I thought everything was going pretty smooth I was nailing it my partner (an other white belt) was nailing it only for the professor to come over and tell me I was just crumbling with the take down, so my partner wasn't actually executing the move. but I could not tell that I was just going with it, we did it a few more times and I was still doing it, and still couldn't tell. any advice would help. thanks guys.
There's a knack to putting in the appropriate amount of resistance when drilling techniques that you pick up soon enough. It depends on the relative size/strength/skill of your partner. It's good to make them work a bit to land the technique correctly but not so much that you fight everything to the death. With takedowns, breakfalls are an intentional action and you do 'choose' to go down safely a lot of the time rather than being thrown against your will, especially in drilling.
So you are saying that many BJJ-competitions don't allow cups because they can be used as brass knuckles for your thrust of freedom? Thats some Ameridotehate right there! 😅
I can't believe anyone isn't wearing a cup tbh (I don't do competitions). It saves my life every three months on average.
All the bjj, tkd, wrestling, boxing, muay thai that I do is with mma in mind so I am always wearing a cup and mouth piece when possible lol
"I didn't get anything from it" ... imagine explaining to Mrs. Chewy that you got something from sharing a cup with your buddy 😂
Sharing gi is one thing but my guy just took it next level haha
300lb sparring partner kneed me in the cup passing my guard 3 times in a row. Don't think ill ever train with my cup off. I get kneed in the cup constantly...
I come from an mma background therefore was shocked that most major tournaments don’t allow cups, personally would rather have one 😂
Love ur vids brother. You’re like my online coach. Thank you for all the knowledge 🙏🏼
Appreciate the comment bro.
Last week during a friendly roll I lapel dragged a lighter opponent with a bit too much force and they fell forward on top of me driving their knee hard into my groin. I waited for the intense pain to subside but it just wasn’t going away. I ended up getting taken to hospital in an ambulance where they took me to surgery. My right testicle was ruptured and had to be removed.
Don’t underestimate the danger of groin shots. To ban foul cups in BJJ competition is completely irresponsible. I wrote to the IBJJF but got no reply. Something needs to be done to change this situation.
Thanks for the response Chewy, I appreciate your insight..
I wore a cup for a couple years until it shifted on me while doing an arm bar while practicing. So some of the package was out and some was inside. It wasn't pleasant. IBJJF doesn't allow them so I never use them now. And on mouth pieces, if you get one made from the dentist you really don't feel like you are wearing one.
Diamond cup is the only one I felt I could do martial arts with. I was practicing take downs with partner on my first few jujitsu classes and he complained to me during a inner thigh throw that I hit him in the groin. I felt it was just irresponsible for him to not be wearing a cup and he shouldn’t be being so pissed about someone who is new barely grazing him. I was absolutely shocked that anyone wouldn’t wear a cup as a white belt.
At the time it felt like people are just embarrassed or lazy about wearing one. Doing like knee slide passes, uchimatas and all sorts of floating passes it seems like getting kneed or kicked would be something you should accept is you refuse to protect yourself. I wasn’t in anyway trying to hit him and was surprised when he made it so emotionally heated. Honestly I quit that day because I just couldn’t understand that gym at all. Everyone felt kinda down and depressed especially the teacher and realizing I was the only one wearing a cup I felt and trying to learn every mess up would be read as irresponsible but I have years of Muay Thai training and had never gotten a single complaint. Don’t know what my point is except I guess I just don’t understand why it isn’t something normal given JuJitsu has more shin to crotch and elbow to crotch contact than a Bruce Lee film. Why do so many people not protect themselves when there white belts? I feel like it was just a bad environment but what you’re saying makes no sense to me besides the competition rules. But the UFC allows metal cups and If your most likely injury in JuJitsu is getting hit in the junk why is it taboo?
Because it's practically cheating. If you armbar somebody with a cup, you have an unfair advantage because of the solid fulcrum. Wearing a cup in pure jiu jitsu is disrespectful to your training partners. If you can't handle being hit in the nuts, learn to avoid it.
To be fair, I had to have surgery because of ruptured nut. I still won't wear a cup though, for the aforementioned reasons.
@@johnnycaralta dude. I wear a cup when I go out to the bar with friends or any place where violence might happen.
Clearly you don't have saggy balls.
You wouldn't understand.
And it's not cheating if everyone protects their balls. Because THEY SHOULD.
Why would I want soft Dick and Ball contact while rolling? Disgusting.
Wear. A. Damn. Cup.
It's illegal in competition and not a big deal. I've been hit a couple times but it just hurts a little bit
@@johnnycaralta Then just don't use your cup to leverage armbar it's not that deep. Most people care more about their nuts than bjj, you may feel superior putting your balls in danger but others do not care.
@@user-nk8zx1yw8s That's not how that works. "You're on steroids? Just don't use your strength. You have a rod in your leg? Just don't kick with that leg."
When I did MMA there was an instance a knee actually broke someones cup.
Separate benefit is that the cup raises your groin area and will help your armbar get more leverage.
I can understand both sides of this but I think the risk of catching a hard knee elbow or a bigger guy just falling on you in the wrong way and nailing you in the nuts being a bigger risk. Some of these guys on here saying you just gotta man up and deal with it and saying it just hurts a little bit sounds crazy to me. That shit will put you down for several minutes
Cup during training, cup only when allowed at tournaments (rarely)
Dude...cup has saved me many times.
If you don't share your cup with your homies, are they even your homies?
Damn i litterally just gott kneed in the balls insanely hard at bjj practise and I come home and see this
😂
Can you do a video on how to not hurt your junk everytime you do a armbar or triangle or pretty much anything with your legs I know you alr did one like 5 years ago but I need a updated one chewwy
I'll see what i can do brother.
This
I am sure chewy will come out with fire video but I always thought armbar was to be finished on hip not crouch. Only had that issue first few times I tried arm bar.
When you do the armband you pinch your legs together to stop it from hitting the jewels and likewise for a triangle with the triangle you’re supposed to be choking the other person with their arm and your thing on their corroded arteries
@@jeremiah4195 thank you for this a few hours after commenting this I figured that out thanks
What about the accidental reach arounds he's going to miss out on!? 😅
No cup for me 🤙
A teammate of mine in the last tournament got his testicles ripped apart to the point he needed surgery, can't remember the exact details but he wears a cup always now so I don't blame anyone who does
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Just got his testicles ripped apart? What kinda illegal shit is he doing
Ripped apart?
Ripped apart? How?
Did his opponent try biting them off?
When rolling with my coach , how should I go about it? Can you make a video? About what the best possible way to roll after a class, for improving as fast as possible
Try to focus on your technique. If you go like it's the mundials then they're likely to shut your shit down quickly. Whereas if you play at jiu jitsu and try to learn from it you'll both get a lot more out of it. Might be different at a top competitive gym but this is a general rule of thumb.
Hey, I had a question. Not sure if this comment section is the right place to post it. I go to a gym tat doesn't have a particularly high level of competition in jiu jisu. The highest we have here are blue belts but they're pretty good too. But the point is that alongside myself, there are tons of beginners who train there. Now, even though I'm a white belt, I have some experience with the techniques, especially with mount escapes and certain guard passes.
Here's where I have a major doubt. When training with partners who are completely new to this, I often am in situations where they're either drilling the technique incorrectly, or stopping every couple of seconds because they're confused about what to do (and this is after the instructor demonstrates the technique a number of times, so they feel awkward to ask again). In such situations, should I just shut up and let them do their incorrect thing? Because I don't want to be "THAT guy" who sucks and still feels the need to instruct less experienced people about what to do.
What makes it even more frustrating is that when the new person is doing the technique incorrectly, and insists that I am the one who doing it wrong and wants to instruct me instead of asking the coach. What should I do in such situations? Nowadays I don't worry about asking the coaches to repeat a technique as many times as I need to see it to understand it, but newbies still have that reservations. How can I get around this without choosing to exclusively train with more experienced people?
I always help people until it's perfect and if they're in the gym for the right reasons they appreciate it. when there's a disagreement I try both ways to understand their perspective - sometimes I need the help of a coach to explain exactly why we are doing things a certain way, even though I'm a higher belt nowadays I still miss little details at the start of the drills but by the end, me and partner are in a good spot with the technique. I want them to give feedback to me and therefore it is in my best interest to have them understand the technique so we can compare and improve
Most at my gym wear a cup. I've never had someone use their cup against me.
Tried to finish an armbar with one and it hurt badly. Great vid!
Tried to finish an armbar without one and it hurt like crazy..
This! Im fine with a cup most of the time, but doing an armbar just hurts like hell..
@@kainthavampire Sports dude ?. .
@@jerrysign5027 fi you squeeze ur kneet togheter you create enough leverage where the arm dont Come near ur junk
I got blasted in the jewels on Tuesday and I debated it. Decided against it.
Bros watch out, and women have heat seeking missiles for shins when it comes to knee cuts
Haha. Yeah they're probably not as tuned in to that area as the fellas are.
That's the best cup story ever😂😂😂😂😂
I was always afraid someome would feel it and get the wrong idea. Lol but man there are a few times i wish i could forget that i would have liked to be wearing one lol
I've always wondered what most guys do, but not game to ask in my gym.
Wear a cup. Nobody wants to feel your junk with their elbow if you armbar them.
EXACTLY.
Isn't there an in-between option like D3o cup, something that offers some protection, but not make of hard plastic
i don't know what D3o cups are, but soft cups exist, which are made from foam.
A bit late but found one myself. The Shock doctor AirCore Soft.
One of my nuts usually slips out the side of the cup then if cup takes body pressure its pretty painfull. Testicular torsion is not somthing i want at bjj class.
Good guy chewy shares his cup with his friend
So + 3 pain points for armbar! Check!
I was gonna say a +2 but whatever.
Wear compression underwear it keeps the boys tucked in. I must have trained for like two years before trying out compression underwear total game changer
Hi thanks lov the channel. Still unsure what to do. In my school one Teacher said no cups cause of arm bars . And others teachers say ok just let your partner know. So defat trying to do that but would be nice to have clear rules/. Advise on this.
Do you think there’s such a thing as over training bjj like, for example going twice every day
best gains i've made were after taking long breaks - up to six months forced break from the mats (although i kept myself fit and did watch a lot of JJ vids)
i come back after a long break and have made noticeable improvements.
great story bro.
i got a cup... of coffee everyday before class
I wore a cup and a mouth guard when I first started grappling. They were both gone within a couple weeks. The mouth guard spent more time behind my ear than in my mouth and I just didn’t like how the cup felt. I legitimately don’t remember ever rolling with someone with a cup so I’d guess the vast majority of people are not wearing cups.
Put the mouth guard back in unless you have full dental 🤣 just for rolls and a 50$+ top side only one. In 5 years of training it saved my teeth about 5 times.
Mouth guards are fine if you get a good one.
We had a guy get kneed in the balls during rolling that needed hospitalization. His testicle swole to the size of an orange. Doc said he was lucky not to lose it.
This literally came up in class monday lol
Well idk if this is the right place to ask but, any tips to deal with back pain in jiujitsu? I’ve been struggling with it
Krill oil
Mobility training and stretching, work out what the pain is caused from. I have lower back pain that is now manageable provided I stretch my hips properly
Pretty much out of the gate, I got sick of guys grabbing the gi material around my hip and occasionally getting part of my ball sack tangled up in their grip. I just don't wanna deal with that shit. I think I'm the only guy in my current gym who wears a cup, but whatever. Maybe I'm just a prude.
Chewy thats gross bro 🤣🤣 thanks for the great video as always though!
I remember and early NHB event which was I dunno if it was russia or ukraine against USA and the americans noticed it was taking longer and longer each fight for their opponents to get to the cage. They only had one groin guard between them and were swapping it each time...
This episode should be called “2 Dudes, 1 cup”. I’ll see myself out …
hey guys could use some advice, I went to my 2nd class today, I went to an all levels class where the moves were a little more advanced and we were drilling a scissor takedown. I thought everything was going pretty smooth I was nailing it my partner (an other white belt) was nailing it only for the professor to come over and tell me I was just crumbling with the take down, so my partner wasn't actually executing the move. but I could not tell that I was just going with it, we did it a few more times and I was still doing it, and still couldn't tell. any advice would help. thanks guys.
also thanks for the videos Chewy you and Jocko are the reason I finally went to bjj
There's a knack to putting in the appropriate amount of resistance when drilling techniques that you pick up soon enough. It depends on the relative size/strength/skill of your partner. It's good to make them work a bit to land the technique correctly but not so much that you fight everything to the death. With takedowns, breakfalls are an intentional action and you do 'choose' to go down safely a lot of the time rather than being thrown against your will, especially in drilling.
@@Sankara561 thank you!
Im not a cup guy either or a mouth piece
2 guys, 1 cup. It’s a definitely a coin toss….
So you are saying that many BJJ-competitions don't allow cups because they can be used as brass knuckles for your thrust of freedom? Thats some Ameridotehate right there! 😅
PROTECT YOUR PHALLUS FELLAS
Jesus, did you at least rinse the cup off in the bathroom sink? 😂
Only real bro's share the cup.
Death, taxes, and scrambled egg passes
Omg the story 🤣
A cup? No.. Jiu-Jitsu will give you balls of steel. But I will use a mouthpiece.
So you’re afraid of getting your partner in the eye with a cup, but not have a cup and driving your junk in their eye, is that ok?
Yes. I’d rather have their junk than a hard plastic or metal cup hit my eye or drive into my spine.
Haha the story
I always wear a cup (even in public) so that my nuts are protected and so I always have a face mask on hand
🤣 protect yourself at all times