BJJ Blue Belt Cussed Out by Black Belt & Can’t Get Rolling Partners

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  • Опубликовано: 7 июл 2024
  • Today's video is about a BJJ Blue Belt who got cussed out by a Black Belt during training.
    The situation happened after the Blue Belt ,who is much larger than the smaller Black Belt, used a neck crank.
    He cranked on the Black Belt's neck for nearly 2 minutes (according to his story.) Eventually the Black Belt got up and said some things that were inappropriate for the mat and did so in front of everyone.
    Afterwards our friend is wondering what happened and what he did wrong.
    The Blue Belt also says that he has a hard time getting people to train with him during rolling. People tend to avoid him and he's not sure why.
    I think these two separate problems are 100% related.
    So in the video I talk about using Neck Cranks in Brazilian Jiu-jitsu and how they can be used effectively but tend to be more of a annoyance or injury creator for most people.
    I also jump into the idea of proper safety with submission in Brazilian Jiujitsu and being respectful with submissions at the point of finish.
    This is important because when you have a submission, it''s the point of maximum danger for the person and must be treated with respect.
    If you're in a similar situation I hope this helps. And if nothing else I hope this video maybe helps shed some light on using submissions in a safe way. This way you can train hard but not injure your BJJ training partners.
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  • @MacLethal
    @MacLethal 5 лет назад +1048

    I'd be curious to hear the black belt's side of this story. Just saying.

    • @mabh1967
      @mabh1967 4 года назад +16

      💯

    • @montydurand467
      @montydurand467 3 года назад +43

      Yo Mac wtf you doing here? 😂

    • @kramer1372
      @kramer1372 3 года назад +3

      100000%%%

    • @burneraccount6102
      @burneraccount6102 3 года назад +9

      Ya at somepoint you gotta realise your the factor that isn't changing

    • @colormesarge
      @colormesarge 3 года назад +1

      How bout you rap it?

  • @tijuas0918
    @tijuas0918 5 лет назад +2358

    How cool would it be if there was a tournament that only allowed people that nobody wants to roll with 😂😂😂

    • @threethrushes
      @threethrushes 5 лет назад +191

      LOL. Every gym would send 'that guy'.

    • @georgepagan4912
      @georgepagan4912 5 лет назад +9

      😂😂😂

    • @hparas1
      @hparas1 5 лет назад +98

      injuries and ugly jiu jitsu and a perfect video montage of WHAT NOT TO DO in jiu jitsu.

    • @AlexisLaplante
      @AlexisLaplante 5 лет назад +76

      Lmao everyone at the gym votes for their candidates. In The World Misfits BJJ Championship

    • @jeobonilla
      @jeobonilla 5 лет назад +71

      Palhares wins the whole thing

  • @2ndAveScents
    @2ndAveScents 5 лет назад +1086

    A matter of ego for the black belt and lack of education for the blue. Black should have tapped, educated, and moved on. You are rolling on the mat together in your school. Spread the knowledge that helps everyone become better training partners.

    • @kylethekidable
      @kylethekidable 5 лет назад +7

      @Sid Sidney if he was a wrestling champ I wonder how much of the dirty tactics he left out for sparring haha. Not to diss you by any means, just that in wrestling we are taught a hell of a lot of pain compliance to get our moves in, but unless coach was specifically drilling something it was a dick move to use too much. For example, I manage to get legs in but can't quite get a rear naked in due to you turtling your neck? Pulling back while I dig my knuckle in just next to the spine in the back of your neck loosens most guys up.

    • @vaughnordakowski8774
      @vaughnordakowski8774 4 года назад +1

      @@kylethekidable that would all be allowed in mma, sparring probably included even with teammates

    • @Krumpenstein
      @Krumpenstein 4 года назад +19

      It's ego for the blue belt too. He sounds like an asshole. The dude's an athletic 6'5" 240lbs and he's cranking on a guy neck who weighs 70lbs less. He's doesn't even need jiujitsu! He's so huge nobody's going to fuck with him. His motivation isn't coming from a good place. Maybe he can change but if not, he should stop training.

    • @jerometruitt1452
      @jerometruitt1452 4 года назад +2

      thats what I got from it.

    • @stuff485
      @stuff485 4 года назад +1

      Well said

  • @jdamagedgoods
    @jdamagedgoods 4 года назад +707

    You forgot to mention body odor as a possible reason why they don't want to roll.

    • @yodaone5764
      @yodaone5764 4 года назад +17

      Agree...some of these guys seem comfortable with themselves and odor. Also I could never get past the condition of the mats. That constant thought of God only knows what's growing on here?!

    • @TheRealParsonz
      @TheRealParsonz 4 года назад +4

      @@badgerking8511 well worth the read good on u for getting to the bottom of the mystery haha xD yuck !

    • @Adimas0
      @Adimas0 4 года назад +21

      jdamagedgoods this happened to me recently. I’m a beginner white belt and I just recently started learning. The guy that I was sparring with was indeed at a higher level but his body odor was just too much. I would just purposely tap to get his horrible smell off of me man. I wanted to tell him but I didn’t want to be rude. Next time he smells bad I’ll let him know because it’s just way too gross of a smell to spar with someone like that.

    • @bxrjr
      @bxrjr 4 года назад +3

      jdamagedgoods lmao

    • @caporegime1259
      @caporegime1259 4 года назад +16

      Ha Ha thats a weak reason not to roll with someone. Im a new BJJ whitebelt, and there are some guys that I train with who have bad body odor, I still roll with them, simply because the knowledge in their heads is more important than a few minutes of uncomfortable smell. If you dont roll with someone becauase they smell a little, (and at the gymn lol), you need to toughen up chief.

  • @jacobday3826
    @jacobday3826 5 лет назад +2395

    I feel like at blue belt you should be smart enough to know not to neck crank for 2 minutes.

    • @cjohnson3836
      @cjohnson3836 5 лет назад +261

      I feel like a black belt should have enough skill to get out of it.

    • @ronin2167
      @ronin2167 5 лет назад +210

      @@cjohnson3836 Then you are ignorant. Once someone has a hold, it's almost impossible to get out of it. Especially if the guy is 3 times your size. It's just not going to happen.

    • @ronin2167
      @ronin2167 5 лет назад +61

      Yeah, if a technique doesn't work in a few seconds...it's most likely not going to work at all. Move on.

    • @ajcook7777
      @ajcook7777 5 лет назад +57

      @@cjohnson3836 I dont think the black belt had good enough position to get the amount of leverage needed to get out against a far heavier and stronger opponent, that's what I gathered from it anyways

    • @otallono
      @otallono 5 лет назад +52

      @@ajcook7777 but he's a black belt.. he should know way more counter moves and there's no way he should be able to get trapped by a newbie. Where did he get his black belt, from a cereal box? And he's not even old, why are people acting like he's elderly.

  • @MarcYoder1
    @MarcYoder1 5 лет назад +1536

    “Why did a black belt curse me out?
    Why don’t people want to roll with me?”
    Because you’re “that guy”.
    I’ve seen guys told multiple times that they’re “that guy” and somehow walk away thinking people duck them because they’re too good. 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @ScrapMetalPanda
      @ScrapMetalPanda 5 лет назад +256

      @@ronaldt1932 found "that guy"

    • @hparas1
      @hparas1 5 лет назад +72

      there are cases though where people duck you........ i am barely 150 pounds (70 kilos) and was a blue belt for 5 years and I can honestly say that I was at a gym where many bigger higher belts ducked me and said I was going too hard. I always wondered that because I never injured anyone or held a submission long and I never complained when they just laid on top of me using their weight advantage (i also knew my limits due to my wrestling background). I'm a purple belt now at another gym and I could see that I had typical slightly overly agressive blue belt tendencies but that's to be expected at that level. As a higher belt now, I have to show these same aggressive blue belts who I was just like that technique eventually takes over by basically kicking their asses effortlessly with technique. It's up to the higher belts to put the lower belts in their place. Regardless, there is a fine line of being 'that guy' and being 'the guy' who everone ducks. As Chewie said, if the 240 pounder was holding a headlock more than 3 minutes, sounds like he's 'that guy' because I never held a failed submission longer than 3 seconds.

    • @jonnnyonion
      @jonnnyonion 5 лет назад +94

      Don't get caught in a neck crank then. Black belt just had a ego meltdown because he was being controlled and neutralized by a bluebelt, get out off it then you're supposed to be a black belt and the higher rank don't moan about being controlled. Leave your ego at the door before you step on the mats.

    • @ronaldt1932
      @ronaldt1932 5 лет назад +11

      @@ScrapMetalPanda I don't go around cranking people's necks because I'm pretty skilled but I'm only 150lb, however I came from a wrestling background and I love the grind and people complain about me being rough!

    • @ScrapMetalPanda
      @ScrapMetalPanda 5 лет назад +67

      @@ronaldt1932 settle down tough guy

  • @1fastmex
    @1fastmex 3 года назад +208

    The fact he is squeezing till his arms are gassed out tells the whole story.

    • @armbullytv
      @armbullytv 3 года назад +1

      What story😂

    • @jacobismith1201
      @jacobismith1201 3 года назад +6

      @@armbullytv that he’s strong asf and ruins others perspective

    • @Artix902
      @Artix902 3 года назад

      @@armbullytv the blue belt in the video....

    • @MrCmon113
      @MrCmon113 2 года назад +12

      @@jacobismith1201
      If you want out you can always tap.

    • @LOLLYPOPPE
      @LOLLYPOPPE 2 года назад

      My arms sometimes gas out after hand fighting on someones back for 3 minutes after 2 hrs of rolling,

  • @sevenman9672
    @sevenman9672 5 лет назад +383

    100% Ego. Whatever belt you both are, don't be too proud to tap. And a Black Belt should be the one with responsibility when sparring with a Blue Belt. No one was born knowing the niceties of safe sparring.

    • @samuraichilton
      @samuraichilton 5 лет назад +7

      You do habe a point. Roll ethic should definitely be taught. I dont roll w ppl like that.

    • @NefariousPorpoise
      @NefariousPorpoise 5 лет назад +36

      If you hear someone whimper, stop and check they are ok.. you don't fucking go for the kill. You don't have to know about 'safe sparring'; to look after your training partners health. All that requires is not being a fucking dick.

    • @CodyOsborn1
      @CodyOsborn1 5 лет назад

      Hear! Hear!

    • @daviddowney717
      @daviddowney717 5 лет назад +17

      Too proud to tap here doesn't apply. The blackbelt would be doing the blue a disservice to tap to a bad neck crank. That would make the blue think he had a good technique on his hands. If it was so good, 240lb dude wouldn't have had to gas himself out using it.

    • @iamtheai2759
      @iamtheai2759 5 лет назад +5

      david downey or, maybe the black belt should learn some scarf-hold escapes. Just sayin”.

  • @Nethezbet
    @Nethezbet 5 лет назад +559

    rofl, I once mentioned to a coach "Yeah, there is only one dude I won't roll with." The coach immediately said "Oh, you mean Soandso?" There is always that guy.

    • @markovic9441
      @markovic9441 5 лет назад +41

      Lmao i do warmups and teqhnics with one same gu for past 3 monhts its just easier
      He knows whats he doing i know what im doing
      If i mistake he corects me ,same for him
      No homo

    • @sk8er2420
      @sk8er2420 5 лет назад +109

      @Heelhook Leglocky Not sure if the "no homo" was needed... lmao.

    • @Horus-Lupercal
      @Horus-Lupercal 5 лет назад +46

      @@markovic9441 Chill on the "No homo" stuff man, it's 2019, come on.

    • @henrycaldwell4454
      @henrycaldwell4454 5 лет назад +135

      Jasper Auld that comment sounded kinda gay, you should add a no homo to the end of it

    • @largestarmsgreatestcharm8231
      @largestarmsgreatestcharm8231 5 лет назад +51

      @@henrycaldwell4454 I agree. No homo though

  • @sgtboz9730
    @sgtboz9730 5 лет назад +453

    I agree. Why, just the other night, I asked my wife "Do you feel it?"
    She said "No."

  • @johnbravo1034
    @johnbravo1034 4 года назад +45

    When you spar in boxing you don’t generally beat up your partner because you want to continue to HAVE a partner. Same here.
    As a teacher of mine once said “Some people are fighting in the UFC in their imagination.”

    • @FGKing-gc3xn
      @FGKing-gc3xn 2 года назад

      Idk man, I've been boxing for 11 years and those boxing wars get pretty brutal - even in sparring.

    • @insertnamehere2746
      @insertnamehere2746 2 года назад

      @@FGKing-gc3xn personally i'm fine with sparring getting kinda dicey IF it's permitted. But if the coaches establish that you're just gonna punch gloves and not the face and someone starts decking their parter then that idiot should be stopped

    • @MrCmon113
      @MrCmon113 2 года назад

      No one was beaten up. The idiot black belt just refused to surrender.

    • @bloodsports94
      @bloodsports94 3 месяца назад

      @@FGKing-gc3xn Sounds like you're not as good as you think you are then bud

  • @PeterRSCFF
    @PeterRSCFF 5 лет назад +31

    This is a great PSA for all sub wrestling/BJJ. I’ve never put on a gi in my life but everything you’re saying is spot on for my own experiences from starting out as ‘that guy’ in sub-wrestling to learning how to learn to communicating with drilling/sparring partners. The communication aspect is also really under appreciated for striking sparring.
    Great video

  • @jl8981
    @jl8981 5 лет назад +274

    I made the mistake of trying to put a purple belt in a neck crank. He was letting me work through stuff... working my technique. He tapped. And then I tapped... and tapped... and tapped... and tapped. He smashed my soul. Once it was over... he pulled me aside and explained my error. I learned my lesson that day. Never again.

    • @SwordTune
      @SwordTune 5 лет назад +27

      That's BS. Neck cranks are in catch wrestling. A complete grappler should be prepared for a variety of situations.

    • @josecuervo3351
      @josecuervo3351 5 лет назад +41

      @@SwordTune - They are doing BJJ, not catch wrestling. By your logic if you apply a neck crank, then i can apply ground and pound. :-)

    • @SwordTune
      @SwordTune 5 лет назад +14

      @@josecuervo3351 Yes, and they should be ready for that as a well-rounded fighters. It's immature to get upset over an effective technique just because you can twist words to make it seem illegitimate.

    • @josecuervo3351
      @josecuervo3351 5 лет назад +66

      @@SwordTune - That's cute, name calling and making false statements doesn't give credence to your argument. In competitive BJJ (i.e. tournements, sparring, etc.) a neck crank (aka spinal lock w/o a choke) is Illegal per IBJJF rules. And for good reason, risk of a spinal injury in the neck is significant enough that is not worth using it in a sparring situation. The fact that you are willing to use it to get a tap, knowing the possible repercussion if there is an accident speaks volumes about you. The safety everyone involved should always come first. A spinal injury in the neck can be life changing, and accidents do happen.
      If you want to use a spinal lock i suggest that go to sport that allows for that technique (i.e. Catch Wrestling), where everyone involved have by their participation accepted that risk. Hell if you want even more realism to help you in your road to be the Ultimate Warrior then do MMA. If that is not enough to feed your quest become a character from Street Fighter go to the favelas of Brazil an try your mettle there... LMAO.

    • @SwordTune
      @SwordTune 5 лет назад +4

      @@josecuervo3351 I don't know what you're talking about. But to make it clear to you, the OP is about a purple belt's behaviour, which was inappropriate.

  • @OldManNutcakez
    @OldManNutcakez 5 лет назад +458

    6'5 240lbs guy at blue belt should have enough control to know how to roll with smaller guys without smashing due to weight, size & strength. No wonder people don't want to roll with him.
    The black belt overreacted, should have better control of emotions & ego, but this seems like a situation that has been building up for a while.
    I actually question the instructor's supervision in not addressing the issue prior. It will result in a serious injury, if it has not happened already.

    • @EagleTrue
      @EagleTrue 5 лет назад +16

      The black belt should have escaped. He was just trapped. He can't just rely on waiting for the opponent to just let go his dominant position.

    • @EagleTrue
      @EagleTrue 5 лет назад +19

      @Caleb Imrie the question is why the black belt can't escape from a basic position executed by a blue belt ?

    • @coachsammy910
      @coachsammy910 5 лет назад +26

      Eagle the guy outweigh him by 65 pounds you can have all the technique in the world if a guy 240 pounds is squeezing with all of their might there is nothing you can do about it. Dean Lister is an escape artist and was tapped by this position. Technique only takes you so far. When is the last time anyone 175 and below had won a world title? Strength is a major factor in BJJ. If you talk to most high-level Black Belts, most of them say that bottom side control is the most frustrating position. Because guys can easily out muscle you.

    • @kanucks9
      @kanucks9 5 лет назад +1

      @@EagleTrue I agree, except that that pin is super hard to escape when held competently. See Judo and Wrestling.

    • @pawake
      @pawake 5 лет назад +9

      It’s between a black and blue belt. The expirence can make up for it. I’ve seen plenty of black/brown belts smash blue belts 60+ heavier than them

  • @quickrt2145
    @quickrt2145 3 года назад +15

    As a new person to jujitsu I’m so glad you did this video. I’m new to the sport and appreciate the advice and insight your videos bring. I love the name and message of your channel, as it always gives me something to “chew” on. Thank you

  • @benkimber8285
    @benkimber8285 2 года назад +16

    Mate you just taught me a great lesson. Sometimes I just squeeze for the sake of it. I’m only 3 months in, I’m 100% going to adjust how I attempted submission 👍🏻

  • @Makarislethal
    @Makarislethal 5 лет назад +145

    One unspoken rule i give myself as a slightly larger white belt with a wreslting background is that i try not to crank out submission that dont go "smooth ". My instructor had given me advise that led me to let submissions go that arnt clean and, arnt making my partner tap even if i know its close or hurts.
    Its somewhat of a self ego check. With a little bit of self awarness to understand the difference between training and competing even in free rolling.
    Btw chewy you were a big influence on me getting into bjj. Thank you love the videos that are full of wisdom and knowledge.

    • @momoswandelndesschloss4047
      @momoswandelndesschloss4047 5 лет назад +5

      El Cucuy true man. Also a unsucess full Submission costs a Ton of energy... need to know wich way to choose

    • @rocknroll19842
      @rocknroll19842 5 лет назад +3

      Ossss! That's a great attitude to have!

    • @adam121312able
      @adam121312able 5 лет назад +1

      Thats great that he explained techniques will dominate and you listened being the main thing you took from it as a lower rank allot of those guys have to get beat on to want to listen haha

    • @Makarislethal
      @Makarislethal 5 лет назад +1

      @@adam121312able thank you all, but yea i got beat up in wrestling and the army, ive eaten my fair share of humble pie.
      The gii is still a bit awkward to me and its hard to not be competitive at times but i just try to stay focused on my own simple progress.

    • @kylethekidable
      @kylethekidable 5 лет назад

      @@BuildinWings see for me the trouble is leaving out the pain compliance we were always taught. First class, first time rolling, the dude got legs in but I tucked my neck too tightly for the rear naked to go in. So I did what I was always taught when legs were put in back in wrestling...tripod to a sit through, plant the point of my elbow on his shin bone and started cranking his leg up into it by getting his foot...that was also the only day I almost started a fight in the class because he looked about ready to swing on me after I did that.
      Wrestling was just always so high energy, anything we did was pretty much live due to always needing to build that endurance for the matches, so when going live, pretty much anything I'd do in a match went with it...even if it meant grinding my knuckles into your rib cage to loosen up an arm for a power half.

  • @jessiesineath7702
    @jessiesineath7702 5 лет назад +316

    Chewy...you're so wise...like a miniature buddha...covered in hair

    • @aplus1080
      @aplus1080 5 лет назад +8

      Jessie Sineath fat Buddha is obvs more myth than reality. Chewie is a bigger, ripped Buddha.

    • @jessiesineath7702
      @jessiesineath7702 5 лет назад

      True

    • @Chewjitsu
      @Chewjitsu  5 лет назад +16

      @@aplus1080 Haha I don't know about ripped. But I am big and burly.

    • @jessiesineath7702
      @jessiesineath7702 5 лет назад +1

      @Rusy shacklfordIm not even mad.. that's amazing

    • @thekingguerra
      @thekingguerra 5 лет назад +2

      Follow Jesus Christ he loves you

  • @joewhitfield5561
    @joewhitfield5561 5 лет назад +9

    You kept it real on this guy. People don't know the difference between training and fighting. 👍

  • @garciastrength7817
    @garciastrength7817 Год назад +6

    You’re like an older brother figure for beginners in Jiu Jitsu. Thank you 🙏

  • @journal_to_reading5920
    @journal_to_reading5920 5 лет назад +55

    I love how much detail he puts into these videos he goes through the entire story and actually talks about different parts of it,fully, which is why I love this guy so much!

  • @Papasquatch73
    @Papasquatch73 5 лет назад +85

    The scarf hold aka head-arm hold is a diaphragm choke. At least in catch wrestling. No reason to squeeze any hard than needed just to hold the head and arm. You mentioned Josh. As far as I know, the way Josh does it is the same as anyone else trained by Billy Robinson. I have seen Josh many times in wrestling camps with Scientific Wrestling. He did it the same way I teach it. I remember there was a black belt who said he would never submit to it. He was submitted. It is a move that makes you feel like you are drowning if done correctly. The same guy said he would not tap to a crank. He did. Chin placement is the key to cranks. Most do not train properly with them to know this. Everyone taps to a neck crank done properly. Anyway like always good video.

    • @doritodip8410
      @doritodip8410 3 года назад +3

      Ye exactly what I was thinking kesa gatame in judo I've been submitted with it yes it feels like drowning not really a neck crank I'm glad someone said it

  • @thebee9907
    @thebee9907 5 лет назад +47

    The blue belt, is "that guy". Anyone thats been in an actual gym knows exactly what I am talking about....but based on the story, sounds like the blue belt had something to prove by going against a black belt...thinking submitting a black nelt was going to magically turn him into Pedro Sauer...who knows

  • @DonEasy
    @DonEasy 5 лет назад +4

    SUBSCRIBED. That was spot on. Awesome wisdom, brother.

  • @ghostduster1
    @ghostduster1 5 лет назад +6

    Your videos help me so much in training and even life. From the bottom of my heart, thanks for all you do for the sport. I'm glad to know there's people in BJJ that have integrity and a genuine love for this crazy thing we decide to invest so much of our life into. 👊

  • @markuscwatson
    @markuscwatson 5 лет назад +26

    Chewie always with the great advice!

  • @swishndflick7105
    @swishndflick7105 3 года назад +1

    I love this. You’re not there to hurt the ones you train with, your friends. Obviously it’s hard to know when you’re new where the limit is, and this video would be a good one to show everyone who rolls for the first time.

  • @FreshCoolBreeze
    @FreshCoolBreeze 5 лет назад +77

    The black belt should have tapped and gotten it over with. It's not like it's a tournament where there's anything on the line.

    • @jonnnyonion
      @jonnnyonion 5 лет назад +26

      Black belt got salty because he was being neutralized and controlled by a lower belt.

    • @mpforeverunlimited
      @mpforeverunlimited 3 года назад

      His pride was on the line

  • @Nate-bx5lf
    @Nate-bx5lf 5 лет назад +9

    True. Always be kind. It is how things works. No negativity. That's why I love you man. You show love to others.
    It is good to ask opponent. No need to necessary tap. It is not competition. Keep the good work man.

  • @Asphaltaperider
    @Asphaltaperider 5 лет назад +8

    This is the 1st video I've seen of yours. You, sir, are a GREAT coach. Just listening to your philosophy and ways you train, and how you teach others to train. New sub. I would truly spend the money to train with you if I lived near you.

  • @thomasfossett3345
    @thomasfossett3345 5 лет назад +7

    This is the most helpful BJJ video I have watched.

  • @ewekickemholder7963
    @ewekickemholder7963 5 лет назад

    Outstanding! Solid talk, and we need more of this discussion going on.

  • @gam3kid
    @gam3kid 5 лет назад +4

    I don't train any martial arts but I always find your teachings and wisdom invaluable

  • @MJFUYT
    @MJFUYT 3 года назад +3

    That's gotta be one of the best explanations for this particular topic that I've heard. If every BJJ practitioner could hear this...
    Thx for sharing! 💯

  • @thomashernandez6536
    @thomashernandez6536 2 года назад +1

    I need this type of calm collected teaching in my daily struggles. Holy buckets do I wish I knew how to stay calm like this.

  • @madashell2
    @madashell2 5 лет назад +3

    Great insight. Our training partners are our most valuable tool. We need to treat them with respect.

  • @FR-ty5vn
    @FR-ty5vn 5 лет назад +18

    Great 👍🏼 discussion! I was involved in a very similar situation. Talked it out & all cool now...

    • @Chewjitsu
      @Chewjitsu  5 лет назад +2

      Happy to hear it brother!

  • @mikemendez4686
    @mikemendez4686 2 года назад +4

    Unfortunately I did this to someone as a white belt with only a few classes under my belt (I wrestled in high school). The guy was not happy about it and I didn’t understand what was wrong with squeezing this hold. This video is enlightening, thanks.

  • @ericpender2280
    @ericpender2280 5 лет назад +1

    big help man, thanks for the insight.
    I'm looking forward to applying some of this on the mat tonight!

  • @austinrandall1273
    @austinrandall1273 4 года назад

    Big fan of your videos my man. Shit ton of great information for any skill level. I’ve procrastinated for many years making excuses for myself. I have no more excuses and have been training for months and can’t believe I’ve waited so long to pursue something I’ve been obsessed with since a child. I owe a thanks. Thanks 🙏

  • @tijuas0918
    @tijuas0918 5 лет назад +134

    As soon and I heard how big the dude was and what position they were in I knew that big ass blue belt was guilty

    • @jordanshockley3867
      @jordanshockley3867 5 лет назад +8

      tijuas0918 i agree just use a real submission instead of your weight shit is so annoying

    • @kristyhumphrey5869
      @kristyhumphrey5869 5 лет назад +39

      I feel as a blue belt, he should know what he was doing was bullshit. I mean if it’s a newbie, fine. But after 2+ yrs of rolling and you still think cranking someone’s neck all that time and not having a good position before submission is ok? Sounds like a blue belt I would avoid as well 🤷🏼‍♀️

    • @jordanshockley3867
      @jordanshockley3867 5 лет назад +7

      Kristy Humphrey your right if there still doing stuff like that after 2+ years they They need to fix there game. Iv been doing bjj for about 10 months and know when something not working to just give it up

    • @coeho
      @coeho 5 лет назад +3

      So true. He must think he does "UFC."

    • @tijuas0918
      @tijuas0918 5 лет назад +2

      @@jordanshockley3867 he is a blue belt , he doesn't have a game to fix .

  • @eddiehuff7366
    @eddiehuff7366 5 лет назад +33

    Really good explanation...thank you. I taught Kajukempo for 10 years. Your discussion and explanation points out very well the age old problem with all martial arts. There are 4 levels of activity:
    1. Training with your classmate hard but at a level of intensity that you can have that person to train with tomorrow again.
    2. Competing in a tournament and trying to win but not to cripple the opponent to the point that it will change their life forever.
    3. Defending yourself in a public area with a bunch of witnesses against some dumbass with little fighting skill.
    4. Defending yourself and or a loved one in a life or death situation with few if any witnesses.

    • @ZeroFucksLeft
      @ZeroFucksLeft 2 года назад

      I'm glad you attached your morals to number 2, but not everyone shares those values sadly. Some MF's in competition will try to end your career/life.

  • @tylindenthaler1619
    @tylindenthaler1619 4 года назад

    This needs to be heard by everyone. Thank you.

  • @stevecastro1325
    @stevecastro1325 3 года назад

    Awesome breakdown of the issues at hand; it’s given me some great points to bring back, as I also sometimes have challenges finding partners. I need to be more clear about the partnership.

  • @planktime
    @planktime 5 лет назад +4

    Chewie, As a 41 year old with a neck injury I can't do neck cranks. This is great advice. Remember kids the old guys who roll with you take twice as long to heal.

  • @robbertdijcks
    @robbertdijcks 5 лет назад +5

    Love the vids Chewy 💪🏻

  • @zakbennett2876
    @zakbennett2876 5 лет назад

    It's so neat the way you teach. So relatable and easygoing. I consider your videos my go to material when a question or argument comes up. " oh yeah? Let's see what Chewy says" lol same thing happened yesterday to me with a d'arse

  • @danielroque02
    @danielroque02 4 года назад

    So happy I found this video going on week 3 of starting BJJ and I love it so far. This is awesome advice and information... thank I will keep this in mind when I start learning to perform submissions

  • @MobiusCoin
    @MobiusCoin 5 лет назад +16

    I've hurt people with armbars where there arm wasn't fully extended or they were a new white belt and didn't know when to tap and tried to fight for too long. I've learned my lesson. The constant fight in jiu-jitsu is against your own ego. What you can do, how good you are, etc. At the end of the day, you should know when a submission is good, you don't need to force it through. It's better to let go then to fight to the bitter end. We're training, this isn't a tournament.
    As for the big guy, I'm surprised at blue belt he still doesn't know that his path forward isn't just brute forcing it through. The way to get better for anyone, but especially big guys, is to let go of the strength game. You're strength will always be there when you need it. It's technique that you need to cultivate.

    • @MrCmon113
      @MrCmon113 2 года назад +1

      Wtf are you talking about? The other guy couldn't escape. "Brute force" is as much part of the game as everything else. You just keep adding arbitrary rules removing sparring further and further from being a contest against a resisting opponent.

  • @TakeshixStudios
    @TakeshixStudios 5 лет назад +47

    I'm a large guy and smaller people (and women in general) are surprised that I have lots of control and no ego. Flow rolling is my go to when going with smaller people.

  • @MyChukis
    @MyChukis 5 лет назад

    Your a real down to earth dude from wha ive seen you just earned a new subscriber 👏🏼

  • @user-fo7il3pb2f
    @user-fo7il3pb2f 5 лет назад

    Thank you for posting this video. Anyone considering studying any martial art or playing any team sport, where your personal well being is or can be in the hands of another person (whether you know them or not), should watch your video and learn from it. Reading comments posted gives a realistic perspective on the types you can come across in these gyms. Can be dangerous...for everyone.

  • @Seven-fe8iu
    @Seven-fe8iu 5 лет назад +25

    why can't people just have honest conversations about how they want to roll, it's not that hard and takes a few seconds. Black belt should check his ego.

    • @juliasisoumankhara6745
      @juliasisoumankhara6745 3 года назад +2

      I agree I had an experience a few weeks ago. I’m new at BJJ and I was warned as a white belt stay away from other green white belts to avoid injury. Well, new guy showed up to class and asked to roll and I was upfront and said yeah that’s fine, but please don’t hurt me let’s kind of practice what we learned in class. Within one minute of rolling he kicked me in the throat so hard and tried to put me in an arm bar and I tapped instantly. He didn’t let go and almost broke my arm. I was so upset and all he said was oh I saw it on ufc so I figured I’d go for it. I could not believe this fool just did this, it completely ruined my night I was so upset, from now on I don’t roll with him and I avoid him at all costs.

    • @Thecelestial1
      @Thecelestial1 3 года назад

      I’ve spoken to the gym spaz at my gym, it didn’t change how he rolled which is hyper aggressive to the point of hurting people, kneeing elbowing, etc etc. the harder you go the harder he goes so there’s no point. Been doing Bjj and wrestling for 14 years so he knows what he’s doing too.

    • @stupidandboot4507
      @stupidandboot4507 2 года назад

      @@Thecelestial1 we had a dude who used to do that at my gym. The higher belts really put it on him one day and he stopped, decent training partner now

  • @Theslayermma20
    @Theslayermma20 5 лет назад +53

    1.) Honestly the black belt shouldn’t have ever cussed him out. There is no excuse for that.
    2.) In rolling, people get the better of someone. Everyone has a bad day.
    3.) If the black belt didn’t want to be in a neck crank he should not have put himself in that position. He is a black belt for Christ Sake.
    4.) If you do get in a position and you don’t get the submission then reposition.
    Happy rolling 🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽

    • @beingofstrange
      @beingofstrange 5 лет назад

      cant disagree with you

    • @volodiaarnaud599
      @volodiaarnaud599 5 лет назад +8

      @Brennan Cleveland - On your number 3) I would even add that the "dude if it is not working, let it go, move to something else" argument is bullshit. If you don't like the position then you have to escape. If you cannot escape it for 2 minutes then maybe you don't deserve that black belt

    • @drunkenbeer
      @drunkenbeer 5 лет назад

      Also tho on 3 he prob can tap him out easy so it not really teaching if hes just gonna tap him out ever sec. if you holding his neck for 2 mins and it hasn't work like he says try adjusting.

    • @beingofstrange
      @beingofstrange 5 лет назад +1

      @@volodiaarnaud599 and to add on even more to that, if you want out.. just tap

    • @rosem.a.4066
      @rosem.a.4066 5 лет назад +2

      Volodia Arnaud this is the comment i feel makes the most sense. if your in a bad position then you need to get out or tap...period. otherwise dont roll. i dont get the "unsafe" business hes talking about.

  • @mmocracy
    @mmocracy 5 лет назад +1

    7:00 right there. This is the best video I've seen from you Chewjitsu thank you

  • @xpansionteam1537
    @xpansionteam1537 3 года назад

    Love your channel dude brilliant videos

  • @isaacconditt9684
    @isaacconditt9684 5 лет назад +24

    I'm a bigger guy and I always communicate with my partner. This is suppose to be a head lock. Do you feel it....
    No....
    What am I doing wrong.
    I ALWAYS ask when I think they should be tapping and they're not.

  • @onezerotwofour184
    @onezerotwofour184 5 лет назад +21

    3:50 "you're hurting me"
    I know locked in chokes or submissions where someone will immediately consider tapping are acceptable in any BJJ practitioners book, but even if something isn't exactly a locked in sub, yet it's working (reducing blood flow or risking muscle/joint damage) how is that not part of the game?
    I know there is a line in the sand but neck cranks are a valid attack and I would be very careful and strongly consider tapping if I was defending unsuccessfully for so long.
    Imo the blackbelt let ego get in the way of the proper move which was tapping, then moving on.
    With that said I agree with your points about talking to the guy.
    It's clear that you train safer than I have which is smart, because I've been against those type of guys a few times and have had a lot of recovery time thrown into the mix as a result including hospital trips and time out of commission.

    • @lazydaze3134
      @lazydaze3134 5 лет назад +3

      The black belt lost his shit because deep down he knew if that was a real fight he could very possibly be dead.

    • @mikeyp3229
      @mikeyp3229 5 лет назад +1

      Maybe in a real fight, but nobody wants to get injured before they make it to competition.

  • @trench311
    @trench311 5 лет назад +1

    Great video. New to the sport. Need more videos like this on etiquette for training. 👍🏽👍🏽

  • @jacobabraham8045
    @jacobabraham8045 2 года назад

    Wow this one was an eye opener for me. Definitely keeping this is mind the next time I roll. Thanks so much for the advice!!!!

  • @nicholasbyram296
    @nicholasbyram296 4 года назад +14

    When I was 15, my Mom found Rolling Partners in my underwear drawer and I didn't get my driver's license for 3 years!

    • @herogibson
      @herogibson 4 года назад

      haha! my man!

    • @charlesswedenburg9449
      @charlesswedenburg9449 4 года назад

      What?

    • @Crowlo17
      @Crowlo17 3 года назад

      @ArchAingeal I think that’s what he’s getting at . At least I hope ..............

    • @autonomical
      @autonomical 3 года назад

      @@Crowlo17 girls... Are his "rolling partners"

  • @bbldox
    @bbldox 5 лет назад +43

    As one of those 5'6'', 130 lbp I can't add more to what has been said.
    When 240 lbp dude tries to sweep me.. well. HE WILL. Is he trying armbar? He can rip off my arm instead.
    Please, please, please, MIND YOUR SIZE.

    • @BowlHeadjr
      @BowlHeadjr 5 лет назад +22

      @Ry Pie Typing that out and posting a comment like that says a lot about yourself dude. Not in a good way.

    • @HikariSoulstrider
      @HikariSoulstrider 5 лет назад +9

      I’m virtually the same build as you, and it’s 100% true. The thing is, where as most people can get the technique half right, and fill the rest up with strength, I totally can’t. Therefore, you end up getting your technique 100% correct, cause otherwise, it won’t work cause you have no strength to fall back on.

  • @coachronhelpingtoheal7135
    @coachronhelpingtoheal7135 5 лет назад

    You are a caring teacher. Great video!

  • @dmj15a
    @dmj15a 4 года назад

    A thumbs up is not sufficient - This is an excellent response and explanation.

  • @todei79
    @todei79 5 лет назад +26

    If you care about your gym you should tell the person who is like this. They may not always be aware of these things. Give them a chance to grow and tell them.

  • @gronith
    @gronith 5 лет назад +101

    I find some people don't roll in a learning manner. I talk to my partner the whole time. I tell em when they are wasting energy on something. I also let em know if they almost have me and not to give it up. I know not everyone is going to have my mentality. I guess from teaching for a couple years in another art I have that we all rise together attitude. I had a partner get to mount and I had trouble getting him off and he asked if I wanted to reset. I had some more juice and told him not yet. Training isn't a competition even though it is competitive.

    • @abdullah2465
      @abdullah2465 5 лет назад +5

      Grant Smith you're a good training partner

    • @flipao1
      @flipao1 5 лет назад +23

      Well, talking to the guy while rolling can be annoying too :P

    • @gronith
      @gronith 5 лет назад +10

      @@flipao1 When you sweep me and I groan and say "aw crap" should be satisfying no? ;)

    • @rickt9569
      @rickt9569 5 лет назад +11

      I'm the same in my rolling...and sometimes have to convey that to the higher belts instead of just straight up smashing me why dont you work on your weaker aspects you're probably going to win either way but neither of us are learning a damn thing when you just destroy me

    • @mj9480
      @mj9480 5 лет назад +1

      Grant Smith Great thoughts, I like to approach training with the proverbial empty cup, I go to get filled with knowledge and understanding. That being said sometimes the understanding is how to get the most out of bad partners, not letting their bad sportsmanship carryover into my training.

  • @metalheavyawesome
    @metalheavyawesome 3 года назад +2

    Thanks for all the advice, as a new guy to this, I have found there are a lot of unwritten rules that I don't know and no one really mentions. I want to be someone that is fun to roll with and fun to train with and these videos help

  • @roymills7566
    @roymills7566 5 лет назад

    Such a good video brother. Love your point of view, keep it coming

  • @darrylgreer68
    @darrylgreer68 5 лет назад +58

    “I pissed off a blackbelt” think we have all been there 😂

    • @guusgeluk3693
      @guusgeluk3693 4 года назад

      Hahaha storytime?

    • @deltahunter4810
      @deltahunter4810 4 года назад +1

      Darryl Greer yeah I got yelled at by one cause I forgot to wipe my shoes on the entry mat 😂

  • @christinesimpson137
    @christinesimpson137 5 лет назад +4

    Awesome video! Would it be possible for you to do a tutorial on the rear naked choke and/or bulldog choke when your opponent ducks their chin, and you can't get under it? This seems to be an issue in my training, and I see it quite regularly, so your insights would be really helpful.
    Cheers,
    Christine

  • @jamesbreen0
    @jamesbreen0 2 года назад

    I recently put my GI back on after 6 years as I competed in MMA and really finding your videos and advice/positivity inspiring. 👌💪💪

  • @adamaceto1610
    @adamaceto1610 Год назад

    As a blue belt these videos are so great. I watch them on the treadmill. Thank you chewy!

  • @RyanJamesOfficial
    @RyanJamesOfficial 5 лет назад +5

    Similar thing happened to me. I was rolling with a black belt, got his back, neck cranked him for a few seconds (he put his chin down to defend and got cranked a little bit). I let it go immediately though because I didn't want to crank on him. He lost his shit and tried to get me to admit that "he could do anything to me"
    He has no striking whatsoever and I'm a BJJ bluebelt with many years of striking. Besides that, you can't say that kind of crap to people.
    Humility and black belts don't always mix.

    • @slicedtopieces
      @slicedtopieces 5 лет назад +1

      What a dickhead. I got my neck cranked badly a little while ago (a dude 30kg heavier than me pressing my head against my chest and wouldn't respond to tapping) so I know the value of a training partner that has awareness of not just himself. Seems weird to me that an instructor level dude hasn't gotten that sorted out yet.

    • @charlesswedenburg9449
      @charlesswedenburg9449 4 года назад

      Ya a lot of black belts suck

  • @Katcom111
    @Katcom111 5 лет назад +4

    I'm a small guy and everytime I roll with someone bigger than me. I have to adjust my submission when rolling with my partner but I do ask them questions like did I get the choke or the armbar, etc. Overall, I never experienced anything negative when rolling with higher belts but their very helpful enough to give me advice. Even though, my training in Jiu-Jitsu is on and off due to hardcore studying for college. I do squeeze in my time to train whenever I can.

  • @JMmodernJJ
    @JMmodernJJ 5 лет назад

    You have amazing content. Great job.

  • @3leed34
    @3leed34 11 месяцев назад

    For some you might be just a good jiu jitsu black belt out there doing youtube videos but for sure you're one heck of a worldclass human being. Appreciate all the insights and advice you're giving on and off the mat! Chew on!

  • @ryu9687
    @ryu9687 5 лет назад +7

    “You’re hurting me” 😂 dead

  • @johnkelly4359
    @johnkelly4359 5 лет назад +3

    I think one of the things that is most misunderstood by new students, and certain types of people is that training is not all about the "winning", it is about the improvement. It sounds like this guy was not being an intentionally a bad training partner but he was too focused on "winning" and not on developing skills with his training partner.

  • @Papamax45
    @Papamax45 4 года назад

    this is such a great message to send to people thankyou :3

  • @sawdawn5226
    @sawdawn5226 2 года назад

    And subbed. Great advice. The blue belt will also progress at a stunted pace with the win the roll at all cost attitude.

  • @colombnBAMBAM
    @colombnBAMBAM 5 лет назад +8

    The neck crank: the most dangerous white belt go to move when you can't submit your opponent.

  • @MrCarsix
    @MrCarsix 5 лет назад +23

    I wish i had a coach like chew

    • @quasar4601
      @quasar4601 5 лет назад

      You could relocate to his city and join up lol.

    • @yungkage1693
      @yungkage1693 5 лет назад +2

      i had a coach like that in prison, i remember when we were wrestling naked and he put me in a triangle and forced a blowjob.good times

    • @educatedscum5306
      @educatedscum5306 5 лет назад

      @@yungkage1693 lmao, brilliant

  • @tjnxray
    @tjnxray 5 лет назад

    your philosophy love it... lot of newbies need to hear this

  • @thinkinsidetheboxsquarecir3303
    @thinkinsidetheboxsquarecir3303 3 года назад

    I have my young sons who are both beginners at Bjj, watch your videos! 👍🏾👍🏾

  • @Horus-Lupercal
    @Horus-Lupercal 5 лет назад +30

    @Chewie I think it's better to be called a softie than a psycho in training, I know who I'd rather train with out of those two options.
    I really appreciate your general advice stuff btw, I subbed and I don't even roll, I'm a Kyokushin guy, but the general stuff is very applicable to every combat sport. Cheers.

    • @Chewjitsu
      @Chewjitsu  5 лет назад +2

      Awesome. I'm glad the information is useful in your Kyokushin practice. That's a very legit martial art. I sparred with some Kyokushin guys back when I fought MMA. They were super tough.

    • @Synthwave89
      @Synthwave89 5 лет назад +1

      Kyokushin is badass. I'm an ex Shotokan practitioner and I want to train BJJ and some form of striking (probably muay thai or some form of karate). Maybe kyokushin or kenpo.

  • @TheTonmartinz
    @TheTonmartinz 5 лет назад +5

    If you're rolling you need to watch this video.

  • @jasonkendall9811
    @jasonkendall9811 5 лет назад

    Always have a sage perspective much love

  • @CHRISMUSICO
    @CHRISMUSICO 3 года назад

    You touched on a very good subject; no one wants to train/roll with the spazz unsafe partner.
    As a career man in his 40s It is what has been keeping me off the mats, hell, I have to go to work the following day so can’t afford to get injured.
    Respect and look after your training partner
    OSS

  • @bryceolsen3527
    @bryceolsen3527 3 года назад +3

    Being 5'4" and 147 pounds I am glad that people are never nervous to roll with me because of my size. I'm a blue belt so people who are new see color and get scared, but no one looks at me and doesnt want to roll with me because of my size. One of the very few perks of being small in bjj I suppose.

  • @wildman4244
    @wildman4244 5 лет назад +3

    I have watched your videos for awhile and I just realized your gym is 50 minutes from me. How do you feel about drop ins?

  • @normundselksnitis5558
    @normundselksnitis5558 Год назад

    Chewie, you are the best with your videos. I realy like how you explain 👍🤙 Brilliant 👏 😅 So much truth in what you are saying 🙏

  • @miguelolmo6425
    @miguelolmo6425 5 лет назад

    awesome video and great advice.

  • @lima_wawae6283
    @lima_wawae6283 5 лет назад +6

    I trained Judo before starting BJJ and can honestly say as a smaller/medium sized guy (5'8, 160lb) Scarf Hold is one of my best pins and I mainly use it to transition into side control or north/south. That being said, I never work neck cranks from Scarf. Like Chewy mentioned, not a million subs from the position, however, I've played it long enough that I'm decent at catching the arm triangle.
    For the most part it seems to me like a lack of communication from both of these guys. Honestly, forget their respective levels of experience - at their age they should be able to talk to each other without getting a bruised ego.
    Lastly, if this were my gym, I'd partner them up for situational rolling from Scarf position so they'd both get better.
    Keep It Simple, Stupid!

  • @devilkazuma909
    @devilkazuma909 4 года назад +4

    LmaO I can so relate to this... I was like this when I first started and I felt like I was dominating but eventually I saw that I mainly used my weight and power against them and not really technique but When I made the switch though to use more technique people began to like to roll with me and that felt good and boost my game as well.

  • @willwade8050
    @willwade8050 4 года назад

    Excellent advice. If done properly both parties continue their martial arts journey confident in their ability to train safe and communicate effectively. Just found your channel and really enjoying it.

  • @joaoblade77
    @joaoblade77 5 лет назад

    Love this video man!

  • @jeffhanson6844
    @jeffhanson6844 5 лет назад +10

    I did that and the guy I was rolling with just quietly said "All your doing is squeezing my head".

  • @yesete777
    @yesete777 5 лет назад +6

    Just started rolling at a new gym closer to my house and they put me with their toughest, strongest guy who wrestled for 6 years in HS and college, to start because I'm a very large man. I have a year of experience in bjj and already knew not to power my submissions during the practice and I like being on the bottom to improve my defense. Anyways, the guy yanked my arm in an arm bar so hard and quickly I was hyper extended before I could tap. It's still sore a week after the fact. I was gracious and didn't say anything but I was a bit put off by the aggressiveness.

    • @dariocenturion9479
      @dariocenturion9479 5 лет назад +7

      you should say something. that´s not cool.

    • @quasar4601
      @quasar4601 5 лет назад

      Switch gyms !! That is sick. My gym they always go slow on arm bars and once I feel it extended- I tap

    • @quasar4601
      @quasar4601 5 лет назад

      Get out of the gym , FAST

  • @robertcarmona9212
    @robertcarmona9212 4 года назад

    Great advice, my man.

  • @outdoorandbushcraft39
    @outdoorandbushcraft39 3 года назад

    The wat you explained it all is so funny. I subscribed. Just started BJJ so I'm watching some videos to get advice.