Quick clarification, Sanji destroyed a laser. Lasers have always been shown either piercing their targets and the energy dispersing as it travels that energy exploding on contact. In other words, sanji's Flames had more intense energy than the laser. Or if you want to really break the laws of physics, you could read it as Sanji destroying energy, which is physically impossible.
sanji is definitely strong but unfortunately he's not stronger than zoro, zoro literally blocks a named combo attack from 2 yonkous even if it was only for a couple secs because if sanji tried that i guarantee you he wouldn't survive you can argue all you want but even you know i'm right and you can't deny it
It is oda who will decide the outcome and I am 100% sure sanji will be surviving or will tank better than Zoro given the tank he is proving to be in recent arc@@federalbubinspector1869
@federalbubinspector1869 if Sanji was on the rooftop, he would have thrown everyone out of the way. Cuz that's the smart thing to do. Why unnecessarily take damage to such a slow attack. Zoro did it for his pride and to test himself. But Sanji defenestrates things like honor when it comes to fighting. If there's a tactical advantage, he doesn't hesitate to exploit it. These differences are why, together, Sanji and Zoro are the wings of the Pirate King.
@@antwonechols2472 ok but I'm not asking what he would do in that situation I'm that compared to Zoro he's way smarter I'm saying that if sanji attempted to block it like Zoro attempted to block it sanji would have been wasted
The only person Sanji loses to in Zoro's enemy list is Mihawk If we are talking about "Could Sanji defeat this opponents back then?" Then that'd be 2 people. 1 Mihawk and 2 Daz Bones
@@isaacmybro9570 but he's the strongest Zoro victim. There is nobody between Zoro and Sanji in terms of power scaling. Besides, the only thing he lacks is conqueror's Haki.
As a zoro fan, Sanji wins. Zoro WAS playing with his food whether you like it or not. As soon as he got enraged did he go blow for blow with Lucci? No, he simply dodged all of lucci's attacks and blitzed him with one mid named attack. If you think Sanji is as fast as zoro then a serious Sanji should be able to do the same. Though he might still have to go blow for blow because his attacks don't really have the kick that Zoro's do.
What feats idiot Sanji is literally faster than zoro it’s common sense and Sanji is more stronger physically and got even more enhanced after he awakened tf u go cope abt it zoro rider not to mention he has better observation haki too feats my ass read the manga mf Sanji easily blocks light speed fruit n that’s like one of the fastest dudes in the series go cope again
Agree with the overall conclusion but one thing that does bother me is using both anime and manga feats interchangeably. Especially for the zoro and lucci scaling. Zoro is multiple times in the manga portrayed and flat out said to be far slower than flames off king. And neither scale to marco in speed properly. King with flames on got blitzed by him and he cut a very distraced marco. Nowhere does that scale flames on king to marco, or marco to zoro. Is flames off king faster than marco? Absolutely. Does zoro scale to that? Absolutely not. Also, though this may be my own misunderstanding (in which i apologize), when you say a character is capable of taking the force of their own attacks you don't mean all characters right? Zoro obviously can't tank his own attacks and I'd even say lucci probably couldn't shrug off a rokugan or full force finger pistol. One last thing is....you think that lucci could speed blitz base sanji when he couldn't even hit zoro? Or damage sanji post germa genes? I mean, the only damage sanji with genes on ever took was an off guard attack from kizaru which he basically ignored and was ready to scrap in seconds. And after sanji activates his genes I really don't think lucci has any chance of keeping up. Definitely not with diable jamble, let alone ifrit. Great video and I really like the pre-emptive debunks.
Lucci clashed and dodged Gear5 Luffy's attacks That alone puts Lucci speed wise >Marco and King Zoro and Lucci fought relative to each other until Zoro took the fight seriously and effortlessly dodged Lucci's attack and speed blitz him... Zoro also in Asura mode parried Hybrid Kaido's attacks then speed blitz him (that happened don't even try to argue against it) Hybrid Kaido speed wise > Marco and King Making Zoro faster than Lucci, King and Marco What you could argue for these characters are their movement speed is faster than Zoro's but not their combat speed
@@Knull575 C'mon man, luffy was playing around. We all know it. No ACOC, ACOO or ACOA. He clearly wasn't trying to speed blitz lucci, yet he still did. The entire fight he clearly outsped lucci, even doing things like grabbing his head and moving it to dodge or throwing a casual mole pistol and nailing lucci. Lucci using soru to dodge a super obvious bite does not put him on the level of even a casual luffy in speed. It doesn't, because it isn't serious in the slightest. And I hope you mean flame on king. This....supports my point???? He had asura active, which make is easy to parry. Blitz? I mean, if you say so. But that assumes that kaido wanted to dodge. If he did than that means zoro scales above hybrid kaido with ACOO. And that makes literally zero sense as he later gets blitzed. Hybrid kaido being above speed mode king isn't 100% tbh. Kaido is incredibly fast, especially when using an attack, but he hasn't managed to vanish (even temporarily like king did) vs a Commander level foe without a technique. I could be convinced otherwise on this one tho. Zoro is not faster than king, who blitzed him multiple times in the fight and was straight up said to be faster💀. Marco blitzed king and queen, so I really don't see zoro outspeeding him. Lucci being slower in combat speed after his two other fights makes sense....and also supports my points. You may need to rethink a little.
@@michaelcarney4220 your whole argument is about movement speed, obviously characters like flames off King, Marco, Sanji and Lucci has faster movement speed than Zoro... But when it comes to attack speed, reaction speed and perception speed Zoro is about them... Almost all Zoro's opponents got speed blitzed by him. King got speed blitzed by Zoro multiple times in their fight, while Zoro kept up and blocked all his attacks. King only landed hits on Zoro while Zoro got nerfed by enma but when he got control of it King was finished in 3 attacks
@@Knull575 Marco blitzed king and queen with attacks. Sanji literally moves and attacks so fast he turns invisible and is unable to even be reacted to. Zoro had to preemptively ready himself to be hit to attack king back. Lucci came of of two fights where he got the crap beaten out of him to fight zoro, and zoro could barely fight after. You overrate zoro in frankly ridiculous ways, even contradicting what is shown. You also seem to think combat speed=technique usage, which is 100% incorrect. Zoro had to open up his opponents before using a technique because otherwise it could be blocked or dodged. Lucci, king and Kaku all show this. He waits for the single moment they open their guard and then attacks with a technique. Otherwise, he has to fight defensively as they all surpass him in speed. This is literally the entire king fight. Also, king with his beak beam straight up blitzed zoro, who literally says that he couldn't block it. Enma didn't do a thing at that point. Yes, hitting an opponent in his def lowered form. Of course he 3 hit him, he was flames down. "It's like a laser beam!" Yet you said sanji, who ran up to and kicked away a laser beam, had slower reaction and combat speed? Bruh.
Wano Sanji vs Lucci goes either way, but Sanji’s egghead feats show that he is at least relative with Zoro with ACOQ. He wins in the same way as Zoro did, but with Diablo or Infra Jambe.
Zoro fans come on all of Sanji's posts to be delusional. You don't have to like someone, but you can invest intonyour interest rather than going out of your way to diminish others feats, stats, and potential. All this does is show that Sanji is a threat because those not a threat don't even need to be mentioned.
Eh w video but I always found seriphim durability to be a pretty inconsistent thing tbh why would zoro call them invisible flames on if he can damage them
@@FTL_SAN because writing a scenario is more likely how the battle goes Yeah it's Easy to say character b has a bigger dick that character a but what does that really mean during combat? Ofc there's a simulation so that people can factor in what could possibly happen during said fight What are the other disadvantages or advantages of character A over character B etc etc Also it's more fun this way than just comparing numbers that's so boring to begin with
I think anime fans are fan girls over swords ,yes it cuts things in half ,sanji burns shit alive Two completely different things yet both still affective .I’ve seen other anime characters do the same shit as zoro ,only character other than sanji I seen was vermillion and she be going up with the top ppl
@@sbthesage2100 nigga how am I supposed to prove that? We still haven’t seen Kizaru move bloodlusted like that he just been chillin the whole series and when he has his big role he don’t wanna do any of this bro literally hasn’t gone all out for us to see
doesn't matter Sanji is faster,More durable, Physical stronger,has better Regen and is wayyyy better with Haki to mention the fact Zoro was holding back against Lucci
@@onenormalguythatbreathes7603better haki ? Right with observation but not armament. Durable ? As if with that durability Queen wasn't able to make him bleed and I'm sure Lucci can by pass his dura by using rokuogan Speed ? Right but speed is all, not because you have speed means you are invulnerable, you can loss with speed if you're threat is having biq and hax
@rostandmarieminalambala1727 Aramamnt scaling is Really a wild card here Nothing suggests that Lucci's armament is stronger than Sanji and neither does Sanji it's really an objective take Only way to compare if it's an direct clash I would love to see Lucci try to land a Rokurogan when Sanji is faster with better Observation haki heck I would love to see Lucci at all try to Damage Sanji when he's tanked Fishman Karate germa genes off
@@onenormalguythatbreathes7603 * I would love to see Lucci try to land a rokuogan when Sanji is faster and better observation " That's why I was talking of hax and Biq and even with that observation Queen was able to touch and damage him and I largely think Lucci speed and AP are higher than that of Queen. Remember who's who was faster than jinbei but jinbei won cause he attracted who's who by lowering his armament and holding his tail after. Same for Lucci who holded Luffy by his tail when he dodge rokuogan in enieslobby. These are examples of Biq, same thing goes for hax
This fight is actually close because sanji literally cannot do the same damage as zoro does because zoro use weapons a sword that is far more affective than kicks and the fact that zoro couldn't put him down proof his high endurance so it go either way to me and i don't think sanji is any were close to zoro because when it comes to combat zoro's is far more affective than sanji's add the fact that he has advanced COC and armament haki sanji has none
But Sanji has advanced observation and armament plus speed blitz. A combo from sanji would be the same damage as zoro did if not more because it would be stacking Damage and we already see his jambe fire acting as ryou pre timeskip
@flerpmcflerp6996 sanji does not have any advanced level of haki literally. No it won't zoro cut the dude sanji won't have that luxury and the fight will be extreme diff because sanji is not close to zoro like you all assume he hasn't shown any feats close to zoro . Zoro was swapping hand's and left kaido with a scar sanji has zero feat of that level
@@4tuneJohn bro if you think that sanji wouldn’t dodge just exactly like zoro did and use jambe either ifrit or otherwise and combo lucci the same way ur delusional. He has better speed and observation Haki than both regardless of it being advanced or not. So I may have been wrong but I know that ifrit acts like Ryou and is a higher level of aramament. Plus zoro and sanji are each wings of the pirate king and have always supposed to have been comparable. It would be high diff at most until sanji speed blitzes Lucci and combos him.
I mean when Sanji kicked the hell out of queen. why Sanji kick wouldn't hurt Lucci. Lucci has much less durability compare to queen. Queen wan't just the most durable dinasaur but he was a cyborg too. sanji was Kicking the dinasaur skin + metal. which makes his kicks super strong. You are right in fight between Zoro vs Sanji it will always be Zoro wins but with extreme difficulty. The Strength gap between them will never be too much because technically their duo will be destroyed. It's more like Whitebeard vs Roger Whitebeard was stronger than roger but Gap was very thin.
Queen got two shotted by an amnesic big mom not even using her df or haki while Lucci fought a yonko with one of the most broken awakenings using haki and fall within three hits. Edit : I said fall not k.oed, cause we don't know of really he was
@@rostandmarieminalambala1727 Queen was still doing okay when LinLin two shot him, infect he was the one who literally knocked out LinLin. Lucci trying to fight luffy doesn't prove Lucci is strong, the whole fight Luffy was literally playing with Lucci. There wasn't even a single critical hit he landed on Luffy. You are really overrating Lucci. To me, Lucci at most is at average warlord level like crocodile, doflamingo or Jimbei.
@@amansharma4358 it's Normal he was doing okay after getting two shotted by an amnesic BM with no df and haki, and if you're saying he was okay what about Lucci ? Queen only managed to hit BM due to a define plan and as I said it was an amnesic Big mom. Trying to fight a yonko isn't a feat but tanking hits from him and getting up at a min is. He didn't did a critical hit and ? Even Saturn didn't landed a hit to Luffy with his tentacules. No way Queen which is slower than Lucci could achieve more in landing a hit
@@rostandmarieminalambala1727 If Jimbei is in water even zoro and Sanji can't defeat him bro. Doflamingo had one of the best control over his devil fruit. Zoro was literally Playing with Lucci for 6 six months. You think Sanji hits won't hurt Lucci?
Gear 5 does not make Luffy faster It increases his strength and durability but fundamentally it’s a human human fruit and Luffy is a human So g5 speed is base Luffy’s speed In the case where it’s an animal devil fruit it increases speed but for Luffy it’s a human one So you can’t use g5 to scale Lucci’s speed and I feel you lowballed Luffy to scale your characters
The logic in this vid is wild, sanji has a completely different fighting style to zoro, so events won’t play out like you described, sanji has no regen the way you imply it to be. his stamina when in Gemma would run out quickly before the fight even ends.
bro ngl bro..what the hell did i just watch?? what was that fight scenario?? you should have just put them both blood lusted in a infinite void and see who comes out instead
sanji is definitely strong but unfortunately he's not stronger than zoro, zoro literally blocks a named combo attack from 2 yonkous even if it was only for a couple secs because if sanji tried that i guarantee you he wouldn't survive
@ashokjadoun7384 Sanji is obviously more durable than Kidd. And Obviously more durable than Zoro and also has regeneration so quit d riding and glazing
I don't think Sanji wins, Zoro couldn't put Lucci down while he already fought Luffy and didn't use his armament haki or a stronger move like rokuogun and Sanji definitely doesn't hit as hard as Zoro, Sanji's main advantage is his speed but Lucci with his soru should be able to keep up, as well as him doing better against g5 than Sanji did against a fatigued Kizaru while non fatigued Kizaru and g5 are relative
lol sanji focus isnt even on kizaru and he has vegapunk on his back those are not fair comparisons, sanji has shown better feats in all stats. An awakened Ifrit combo is putting Lucci down
I want you to realize that Sanji’s devil leg literally burned through Jabra’s iron body and burned him down to the bone which means that it definitely does both external and internal damage. Now imagine what the ifrit would do. The whole Sanji doesn’t hit as hard as Zoro point is pointless as they don’t use the same styles of attacks. Zoro is a strength based swordsman who uses slices while Sanji is a well rounded fighter who uses blunt force. Sanji rolled Queen once Ifit was activated and keep in mind this was a Sanji who was already fatigued from holding off king and queen at the same time and who later had a psychological battle with himself. Doubt/hesitation makes you weak as stated numerous times in one piece. The moment Sanji cleared his doubt and activated ifrit Queen got cooked. I believe Sanji posses the speed to not only blitz lucci but also the damage output to put lucci down. Sanji Mid diff.
Zoro was already panting heavily when jimbei arrived at the scene, jimbei literally had to carry him to get out of battlefield after Mars arrived coz he can barely move after his fight with lucci that lasts 6 months(like 9 chapters long). I can understand Sanji defeating Lucci but using the excuse that Zoro could've 'low dif' lucci(which he couldnt do otherwise he would've done earlier to help the other straw hats) just to upscale sanji way higher than lucci since sanji and zoro are relative in strength is just ridiculous. Give my boi lucci some respect, he's also gotten more powerful.
This is some serious caping man. It’s bad enough to imply all of Kizarus attacks have the same ap… but pretending you don’t know what hax are so you could call Sanji “one of the most haxed” when we all know he has none is crazy. None of those abilities were hax and most weren’t even special for high tiers. Bro literally just moves and kicks 🤦🏽♂️
Hax and abilities mean the same thing also yes any light kizaru produces in beam for should have the same AP but varying amounts of DC it’s not that hard to comprehend if you know the difference between the two
@@sbthesage2100 Hax and abilities are not the same bro. I respect creators so I’m not trying to come at your neck but you’re just wrong on that. Also comprehending that DC and AP is different is no issue or even relevant. It’s that for the vast majority of characters in one piece or any other shows, named attacks are stronger than non named ones… that’s kinda the point. Baselessly saying Kizaru is an exception to that is a massive assumption.
@@B00MR0ASt3D it's not baseless tho Kizaru only ever manipulates the shape or size Of his beams and we've never seen them be more or less potent so yours actually the one who's making baseless claims like him saying a word makes his light more potent 😭 and even if you were to say that how much more potent are named Kizaru lasers than non named ones and how does it affect the video
Also i really don't care what your definition for the word hacks is for me it's a synonym for abilitys it's not like you can go into. Dictionary and find the definition for the vs battle term hacks
@@sbthesage2100 it’s not “my definition you can easily google “hax scaling definition” and see every definition validating me, like I said I’m trying to be a dick I was just being aggressive before cuz I thought you were being disingenuous. If you just want to be wrong that’s fine, but I’m just trying to help you at this point as a consumer of your content. Hax are named hax because it’s like your ability is like some sort of hacking or cheating in some way. Hax are a subcategory of abilities that either exceed the stats of the user/opponent, or interact with others in an unconventional way. And is not a commonly accessible ability. Examples: Naruto’s Rasenshuriken that ignores durability Goku’s instant transmission that far out scales his normal movement speed Aizens hypnosis Laws ability to swap places with people or cut them up without hurting them Ginyus body swap Meliodas full counter
I'm not going to lie, Wano, and Egghead was not good for Sanji. Raid suit Sanji was toyed with by Flames on King, and his new upgrade was not that good, Sanji stacked up all of his powers and abilities, and it did not do enough damage so he needed to use it dozens of times. (also it was against Queen, I'm sorry, but every queen moment he was humiliated, with his durability saving him.) Egghead, sure Sanji had small moments like tanking a seraphim punch to the face, and kicking a light attack, but ones not much of a feat, while the light feat was quickly made pointless because right after that Sanji failed to do it again to save Vegapunk.
@@ginnungagapabyss5639even just moving around sanji was hurting vegapunk i doubt vegapunk would survive if sanji was kicking lasers while carrying vegapunk sanji took no damage from the kizaru kick anyways so that's a good feat
what supports that what has sanji done to put him above marco. marco fought the admirals for ages without help he was considered for yonko why do people shit on marco soo much he has always looked impressive against everyone he has faced
@@doggybiscuit29 all he ever did was block peoples attacks he's not that strong bro and I'll have to explain why i think Sanji wins in a separate video
so sanji can block an attack from akainu then? stop sucking off sanji queen was trash and anyone worth their salt can block a single tiny lazer from kiz i can't believe people have sanji over goats like king kat and marco they would slap sanji
Quick clarification, Sanji destroyed a laser. Lasers have always been shown either piercing their targets and the energy dispersing as it travels that energy exploding on contact. In other words, sanji's Flames had more intense energy than the laser. Or if you want to really break the laws of physics, you could read it as Sanji destroying energy, which is physically impossible.
Faxs
sanji is definitely strong but unfortunately he's not stronger than zoro, zoro literally blocks a named combo attack from 2 yonkous even if it was only for a couple secs because if sanji tried that i guarantee you he wouldn't survive you can argue all you want but even you know i'm right and you can't deny it
It is oda who will decide the outcome and I am 100% sure sanji will be surviving or will tank better than Zoro given the tank he is proving to be in recent arc@@federalbubinspector1869
@federalbubinspector1869 if Sanji was on the rooftop, he would have thrown everyone out of the way. Cuz that's the smart thing to do. Why unnecessarily take damage to such a slow attack. Zoro did it for his pride and to test himself. But Sanji defenestrates things like honor when it comes to fighting. If there's a tactical advantage, he doesn't hesitate to exploit it. These differences are why, together, Sanji and Zoro are the wings of the Pirate King.
@@antwonechols2472 ok but I'm not asking what he would do in that situation I'm that compared to Zoro he's way smarter I'm saying that if sanji attempted to block it like Zoro attempted to block it sanji would have been wasted
Fax. sanji and zoro will always be relative to each other. it makes sense for wings of the future pirate king to be 'somewhat' equal.
A another w, sanji claps the zoro victim
The only person Sanji loses to in Zoro's enemy list is Mihawk
If we are talking about "Could Sanji defeat this opponents back then?"
Then that'd be 2 people. 1 Mihawk and 2 Daz Bones
Sanji is also a zoro victim
@@isaacmybro9570 but he's the strongest Zoro victim. There is nobody between Zoro and Sanji in terms of power scaling. Besides, the only thing he lacks is conqueror's Haki.
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@@isaacmybro9570My ass
As a zoro fan, Sanji wins. Zoro WAS playing with his food whether you like it or not. As soon as he got enraged did he go blow for blow with Lucci?
No, he simply dodged all of lucci's attacks and blitzed him with one mid named attack.
If you think Sanji is as fast as zoro then a serious Sanji should be able to do the same.
Though he might still have to go blow for blow because his attacks don't really have the kick that Zoro's do.
As a sanji fan, I agree 🫱🏻🫲🏽
Sanji is way faster
@@deathwraith3326 all feats say otherwise cope about it
What feats idiot Sanji is literally faster than zoro it’s common sense and Sanji is more stronger physically and got even more enhanced after he awakened tf u go cope abt it zoro rider not to mention he has better observation haki too feats my ass read the manga mf Sanji easily blocks light speed fruit n that’s like one of the fastest dudes in the series go cope again
@@thehdtv7552What feats say otherwise. I haven't seen Zoro disappear from a person's view before?
Rob Lucci:''I am losing consciousness"🤦.
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Faxs
Man can you you Lucci vs Jimbei I would really love to see that?
Lucci wins High diff
Fish is getting cooked
If the fight is in the water Jimbei wins with no diff. If its on the Ground Lucci wins with extreme diff.
Very accurate hypothetical fight!
Lucci finger breaks lol
🤣 caught me off guard, i agree 😂
Agree with the overall conclusion but one thing that does bother me is using both anime and manga feats interchangeably.
Especially for the zoro and lucci scaling. Zoro is multiple times in the manga portrayed and flat out said to be far slower than flames off king. And neither scale to marco in speed properly. King with flames on got blitzed by him and he cut a very distraced marco. Nowhere does that scale flames on king to marco, or marco to zoro.
Is flames off king faster than marco? Absolutely. Does zoro scale to that? Absolutely not.
Also, though this may be my own misunderstanding (in which i apologize), when you say a character is capable of taking the force of their own attacks you don't mean all characters right?
Zoro obviously can't tank his own attacks and I'd even say lucci probably couldn't shrug off a rokugan or full force finger pistol.
One last thing is....you think that lucci could speed blitz base sanji when he couldn't even hit zoro? Or damage sanji post germa genes? I mean, the only damage sanji with genes on ever took was an off guard attack from kizaru which he basically ignored and was ready to scrap in seconds. And after sanji activates his genes I really don't think lucci has any chance of keeping up. Definitely not with diable jamble, let alone ifrit.
Great video and I really like the pre-emptive debunks.
Lucci clashed and dodged Gear5 Luffy's attacks
That alone puts Lucci speed wise >Marco and King
Zoro and Lucci fought relative to each other until Zoro took the fight seriously and effortlessly dodged Lucci's attack and speed blitz him...
Zoro also in Asura mode parried Hybrid Kaido's attacks then speed blitz him (that happened don't even try to argue against it) Hybrid Kaido speed wise > Marco and King
Making Zoro faster than Lucci, King and Marco
What you could argue for these characters are their movement speed is faster than Zoro's but not their combat speed
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C'mon man, luffy was playing around. We all know it. No ACOC, ACOO or ACOA. He clearly wasn't trying to speed blitz lucci, yet he still did. The entire fight he clearly outsped lucci, even doing things like grabbing his head and moving it to dodge or throwing a casual mole pistol and nailing lucci. Lucci using soru to dodge a super obvious bite does not put him on the level of even a casual luffy in speed.
It doesn't, because it isn't serious in the slightest. And I hope you mean flame on king.
This....supports my point????
He had asura active, which make is easy to parry. Blitz? I mean, if you say so. But that assumes that kaido wanted to dodge. If he did than that means zoro scales above hybrid kaido with ACOO. And that makes literally zero sense as he later gets blitzed.
Hybrid kaido being above speed mode king isn't 100% tbh. Kaido is incredibly fast, especially when using an attack, but he hasn't managed to vanish (even temporarily like king did) vs a Commander level foe without a technique. I could be convinced otherwise on this one tho.
Zoro is not faster than king, who blitzed him multiple times in the fight and was straight up said to be faster💀.
Marco blitzed king and queen, so I really don't see zoro outspeeding him.
Lucci being slower in combat speed after his two other fights makes sense....and also supports my points.
You may need to rethink a little.
@@michaelcarney4220 your whole argument is about movement speed, obviously characters like flames off King, Marco, Sanji and Lucci has faster movement speed than Zoro...
But when it comes to attack speed, reaction speed and perception speed Zoro is about them... Almost all Zoro's opponents got speed blitzed by him. King got speed blitzed by Zoro multiple times in their fight, while Zoro kept up and blocked all his attacks. King only landed hits on Zoro while Zoro got nerfed by enma but when he got control of it King was finished in 3 attacks
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Marco blitzed king and queen with attacks.
Sanji literally moves and attacks so fast he turns invisible and is unable to even be reacted to.
Zoro had to preemptively ready himself to be hit to attack king back.
Lucci came of of two fights where he got the crap beaten out of him to fight zoro, and zoro could barely fight after.
You overrate zoro in frankly ridiculous ways, even contradicting what is shown.
You also seem to think combat speed=technique usage, which is 100% incorrect.
Zoro had to open up his opponents before using a technique because otherwise it could be blocked or dodged. Lucci, king and Kaku all show this. He waits for the single moment they open their guard and then attacks with a technique. Otherwise, he has to fight defensively as they all surpass him in speed. This is literally the entire king fight.
Also, king with his beak beam straight up blitzed zoro, who literally says that he couldn't block it. Enma didn't do a thing at that point.
Yes, hitting an opponent in his def lowered form. Of course he 3 hit him, he was flames down.
"It's like a laser beam!"
Yet you said sanji, who ran up to and kicked away a laser beam, had slower reaction and combat speed?
Bruh.
@@michaelcarney4220 aight this tells me exactly what I need to know, I'm done here 🤷♂️
Yo guys my bad for the video quality idk it was in 480p
Sanji destroys him and sleeps midway through the fight
lucci lookin like a jinbe victim
Nah. Jinbe is gettin cooked
Wano Sanji vs Lucci goes either way, but Sanji’s egghead feats show that he is at least relative with Zoro with ACOQ. He wins in the same way as Zoro did, but with Diablo or Infra Jambe.
Bruh this cp0 cat have nothing to put sanji down, 1 ifrit combo will send this shit flying
Zoro fans come on all of Sanji's posts to be delusional. You don't have to like someone, but you can invest intonyour interest rather than going out of your way to diminish others feats, stats, and potential. All this does is show that Sanji is a threat because those not a threat don't even need to be mentioned.
Eh w video but I always found seriphim durability to be a pretty inconsistent thing tbh why would zoro call them invisible flames on if he can damage them
That's a weird thing but we also never see him use ACOC against them which he uses to beat king
sanji destroying the laser has similar effects to the photon gloves that were introduced earlier in the arc. could possibly just be that
That makes no sense, just give Sanji the feat, and the boots argument is head canon anyway
@@brothsipper-h5o I said could possibly, not an absolute. Go look at it I’m just bringing it up
zoro and sanji are exactly like goku and vegeta with goku always being a step ahead but vegeta eventually catching up to him
Luffy is goko Zoro is Vegeta
@@saidbachlil2612Luffy is Whis,
Zoro is goku and Sanji is Vegeta
@@GDlikepower1st Zoro is second main character after Luffy deuteragonist like Vegeta
@@saidbachlil2612 I was speak about power/strength and not the main character or something like that
@@saidbachlil2612 🙏🤝
Why do fans try to simulate and write up a script for the fight? We don’t know what they’d do. It’s best to just stick to the stats.
So people can understand better
@@Lusidoius but it’s an interpretation that is most likely bias.
@@FTL_SAN because writing a scenario is more likely how the battle goes
Yeah it's Easy to say character b has a bigger dick that character a but what does that really mean during combat?
Ofc there's a simulation so that people can factor in what could possibly happen during said fight
What are the other disadvantages or advantages of character A over character B etc etc
Also it's more fun this way than just comparing numbers that's so boring to begin with
@@onenormalguythatbreathes7603 that’s gay, why is the first analogy you think of about dick? Is there penis on your mind guy?
I think anime fans are fan girls over swords ,yes it cuts things in half ,sanji burns shit alive Two completely different things yet both still affective .I’ve seen other anime characters do the same shit as zoro ,only character other than sanji I seen was vermillion and she be going up with the top ppl
what your point sanji is still a zoro victim
@@roronoaDzoro1111 yea in your imagination
@@ifritThe8th you wrote a bunch of words to say nothing
Zoro betta Sanji a bum
When he learns how to use conquerors haki then you have a case
@@roronoaDzoro1111 whatever helps you sleep at night
2:27 Is Sanji turning on the Germa genes consciously? I wish Oda explain it a little. Have 2 pages of Chopper or VegaPunk testing Sanji's body.
I did wanna mention Kizaru didn’t wanna fight Sentomaru so he wasn’t going all out but Lucci WAS trying to kill Sentomaru and used a piercing attack
Prove that going all out Kizaru does better
@@sbthesage2100 nigga how am I supposed to prove that? We still haven’t seen Kizaru move bloodlusted like that he just been chillin the whole series and when he has his big role he don’t wanna do any of this bro literally hasn’t gone all out for us to see
Zoro used king of hell agaist lucci definitely lucci wins sanji high mid diff
doesn't matter
Sanji is faster,More durable, Physical stronger,has better Regen and is wayyyy better with Haki
to mention the fact Zoro was holding back against Lucci
@@onenormalguythatbreathes7603better haki ? Right with observation but not armament.
Durable ? As if with that durability Queen wasn't able to make him bleed and I'm sure Lucci can by pass his dura by using rokuogan
Speed ? Right but speed is all, not because you have speed means you are invulnerable, you can loss with speed if you're threat is having biq and hax
@rostandmarieminalambala1727 Aramamnt scaling is Really a wild card here
Nothing suggests that Lucci's armament is stronger than Sanji and neither does Sanji it's really an objective take
Only way to compare if it's an direct clash
I would love to see Lucci try to land a Rokurogan when Sanji is faster with better Observation haki
heck I would love to see Lucci at all try to Damage Sanji when he's tanked Fishman Karate germa genes off
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BIQ against Sanji and hax? Lmao at this point you're joking
@@onenormalguythatbreathes7603 * I would love to see Lucci try to land a rokuogan when Sanji is faster and better observation "
That's why I was talking of hax and Biq and even with that observation Queen was able to touch and damage him and I largely think Lucci speed and AP are higher than that of Queen.
Remember who's who was faster than jinbei but jinbei won cause he attracted who's who by lowering his armament and holding his tail after.
Same for Lucci who holded Luffy by his tail when he dodge rokuogan in enieslobby.
These are examples of Biq, same thing goes for hax
It makes sense a narutard would actually think sanji strong lmao I don’t see sanji beating lucci I’m ngl if he does it’s HIGH Diff
Can you say why he doesn’t beat him
Sorry but I don't see how a Stussy victim beats Wanji 💀
This fight is actually close because sanji literally cannot do the same damage as zoro does because zoro use weapons a sword that is far more affective than kicks and the fact that zoro couldn't put him down proof his high endurance so it go either way to me and i don't think sanji is any were close to zoro because when it comes to combat zoro's is far more affective than sanji's add the fact that he has advanced COC and armament haki sanji has none
But Sanji has advanced observation and armament plus speed blitz. A combo from sanji would be the same damage as zoro did if not more because it would be stacking Damage and we already see his jambe fire acting as ryou pre timeskip
Sanji does have arnament haki, how come you didn't know that, do you even watch the show😭
@flerpmcflerp6996 sanji does not have any advanced level of haki literally. No it won't zoro cut the dude sanji won't have that luxury and the fight will be extreme diff because sanji is not close to zoro like you all assume he hasn't shown any feats close to zoro . Zoro was swapping hand's and left kaido with a scar sanji has zero feat of that level
@@yadhaider807 he does have both armament and observation but not on an advanced level
@@4tuneJohn bro if you think that sanji wouldn’t dodge just exactly like zoro did and use jambe either ifrit or otherwise and combo lucci the same way ur delusional. He has better speed and observation Haki than both regardless of it being advanced or not. So I may have been wrong but I know that ifrit acts like Ryou and is a higher level of aramament. Plus zoro and sanji are each wings of the pirate king and have always supposed to have been comparable. It would be high diff at most until sanji speed blitzes Lucci and combos him.
Another Two Piece reader, only there Sanji is equal to Zoro
Sanji will cook him 😂😂😂😂
Only thing you can say is he can’t one shot because he’s a combo fighter he still stomps, but sanji isn’t equal to zoro
Sanji isn't equal to Zoro but the difference isn't night and day its extremely close
Yeah he's better
Finally
I mean when Sanji kicked the hell out of queen. why Sanji kick wouldn't hurt Lucci. Lucci has much less durability compare to queen. Queen wan't just the most durable dinasaur but he was a cyborg too. sanji was Kicking the dinasaur skin + metal. which makes his kicks super strong. You are right in fight between Zoro vs Sanji it will always be Zoro wins but with extreme difficulty. The Strength gap between them will never be too much because technically their duo will be destroyed. It's more like Whitebeard vs Roger Whitebeard was stronger than roger but Gap was very thin.
Queen got two shotted by an amnesic big mom not even using her df or haki while Lucci fought a yonko with one of the most broken awakenings using haki and fall within three hits.
Edit : I said fall not k.oed, cause we don't know of really he was
@@rostandmarieminalambala1727 Queen was still doing okay when LinLin two shot him, infect he was the one who literally knocked out LinLin.
Lucci trying to fight luffy doesn't prove Lucci is strong, the whole fight Luffy was literally playing with Lucci. There wasn't even a single critical hit he landed on Luffy. You are really overrating Lucci.
To me, Lucci at most is at average warlord level like crocodile, doflamingo or Jimbei.
@@amansharma4358 it's Normal he was doing okay after getting two shotted by an amnesic BM with no df and haki, and if you're saying he was okay what about Lucci ?
Queen only managed to hit BM due to a define plan and as I said it was an amnesic Big mom.
Trying to fight a yonko isn't a feat but tanking hits from him and getting up at a min is.
He didn't did a critical hit and ? Even Saturn didn't landed a hit to Luffy with his tentacules. No way Queen which is slower than Lucci could achieve more in landing a hit
@@amansharma4358 Lucci destroy doflammingo and jinbei I'm sorry. Ur the one underestimating lucci
@@rostandmarieminalambala1727 If Jimbei is in water even zoro and Sanji can't defeat him bro. Doflamingo had one of the best control over his devil fruit. Zoro was literally Playing with Lucci for 6 six months. You think Sanji hits won't hurt Lucci?
Gear 5 does not make Luffy faster
It increases his strength and durability but fundamentally it’s a human human fruit and Luffy is a human
So g5 speed is base Luffy’s speed
In the case where it’s an animal devil fruit it increases speed but for Luffy it’s a human one
So you can’t use g5 to scale Lucci’s speed and I feel you lowballed Luffy to scale your characters
are u ok?
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Zoro mid diffed Lucci, so I think Sanji vs Lucci is high to extreme!!! Very interesting fight!!!
I don't get it..Sanji should win, high-extreme..
Zoro defeated him high diff..
Zoro was holding back lol
Can we also say Lucci was holding back cause he didn't use strongest attack ?@@onenormalguythatbreathes7603
Did he just say 4th place
He did
Next, why Ussop and lucci aren’t even close, sogeking stumps low diff! Strawhats riders!
why Jinbei Vs lucci isnt lose
Come on 😂
We already now why
The logic in this vid is wild, sanji has a completely different fighting style to zoro, so events won’t play out like you described, sanji has no regen the way you imply it to be. his stamina when in Gemma would run out quickly before the fight even ends.
bro ngl bro..what the hell did i just watch?? what was that fight scenario??
you should have just put them both blood lusted in a infinite void and see who comes out instead
I swear oda nerfed zoro after wano like bro went from scaring and cutting yonko to this
sanji is definitely strong but unfortunately he's not stronger than zoro, zoro literally blocks a named combo attack from 2 yonkous even if it was only for a couple secs because if sanji tried that i guarantee you he wouldn't survive
Sanji is more durable than Zoro accept the facts if Zoro survived then Sanji will and stop downplaying
@@nelsonogodo8414 yes sanji is more durable than Zoro obviously but he's not tanking a combo attack from two yonkou stop fan boying
@@nelsonogodo8414sanji ain't taking a single acoc hit from a yonko 🤡
We saw how durable kid was, but one single acoc hit put him down
@ashokjadoun7384 Sanji is obviously more durable than Kidd. And Obviously more durable than Zoro and also has regeneration so quit d riding and glazing
@@nelsonogodo8414 lmao 😂
Acoc is dura neg 🤡
Quit glazing and sthu 🤡
Durability doesn't mean sh-to acoc users
Lucci>Sanji
Wanji>>>>>Lob Frucci mid diff
Bias everywhere. If this goes on they'll say Nami>>>Lucci
Stop the cap, Sanji high diff Lucci. Sanji > lucci
I don't think Sanji wins, Zoro couldn't put Lucci down while he already fought Luffy and didn't use his armament haki or a stronger move like rokuogun and Sanji definitely doesn't hit as hard as Zoro, Sanji's main advantage is his speed but Lucci with his soru should be able to keep up, as well as him doing better against g5 than Sanji did against a fatigued Kizaru while non fatigued Kizaru and g5 are relative
lol sanji focus isnt even on kizaru and he has vegapunk on his back those are not fair comparisons, sanji has shown better feats in all stats. An awakened Ifrit combo is putting Lucci down
Good point
Zoro could have put Lucci down with another one or two attacks, but Jinbe made him leave
I want you to realize that Sanji’s devil leg literally burned through Jabra’s iron body and burned him down to the bone which means that it definitely does both external and internal damage. Now imagine what the ifrit would do. The whole Sanji doesn’t hit as hard as Zoro point is pointless as they don’t use the same styles of attacks. Zoro is a strength based swordsman who uses slices while Sanji is a well rounded fighter who uses blunt force. Sanji rolled Queen once Ifit was activated and keep in mind this was a Sanji who was already fatigued from holding off king and queen at the same time and who later had a psychological battle with himself. Doubt/hesitation makes you weak as stated numerous times in one piece. The moment Sanji cleared his doubt and activated ifrit Queen got cooked. I believe Sanji posses the speed to not only blitz lucci but also the damage output to put lucci down. Sanji Mid diff.
Zoro was already panting heavily when jimbei arrived at the scene, jimbei literally had to carry him to get out of battlefield after Mars arrived coz he can barely move after his fight with lucci that lasts 6 months(like 9 chapters long). I can understand Sanji defeating Lucci but using the excuse that Zoro could've 'low dif' lucci(which he couldnt do otherwise he would've done earlier to help the other straw hats) just to upscale sanji way higher than lucci since sanji and zoro are relative in strength is just ridiculous.
Give my boi lucci some respect, he's also gotten more powerful.
This is some serious caping man. It’s bad enough to imply all of Kizarus attacks have the same ap… but pretending you don’t know what hax are so you could call Sanji “one of the most haxed” when we all know he has none is crazy. None of those abilities were hax and most weren’t even special for high tiers. Bro literally just moves and kicks 🤦🏽♂️
Hax and abilities mean the same thing also yes any light kizaru produces in beam for should have the same AP but varying amounts of DC it’s not that hard to comprehend if you know the difference between the two
@@sbthesage2100 Hax and abilities are not the same bro. I respect creators so I’m not trying to come at your neck but you’re just wrong on that. Also comprehending that DC and AP is different is no issue or even relevant. It’s that for the vast majority of characters in one piece or any other shows, named attacks are stronger than non named ones… that’s kinda the point. Baselessly saying Kizaru is an exception to that is a massive assumption.
@@B00MR0ASt3D it's not baseless tho Kizaru only ever manipulates the shape or size Of his beams and we've never seen them be more or less potent so yours actually the one who's making baseless claims like him saying a word makes his light more potent 😭 and even if you were to say that how much more potent are named Kizaru lasers than non named ones and how does it affect the video
Also i really don't care what your definition for the word hacks is for me it's a synonym for abilitys it's not like you can go into. Dictionary and find the definition for the vs battle term hacks
@@sbthesage2100 it’s not “my definition you can easily google “hax scaling definition” and see every definition validating me, like I said I’m trying to be a dick I was just being aggressive before cuz I thought you were being disingenuous. If you just want to be wrong that’s fine, but I’m just trying to help you at this point as a consumer of your content.
Hax are named hax because it’s like your ability is like some sort of hacking or cheating in some way. Hax are a subcategory of abilities that either exceed the stats of the user/opponent, or interact with others in an unconventional way. And is not a commonly accessible ability.
Examples:
Naruto’s Rasenshuriken that ignores durability
Goku’s instant transmission that far out scales his normal movement speed
Aizens hypnosis
Laws ability to swap places with people or cut them up without hurting them
Ginyus body swap
Meliodas full counter
Lucci claps sanji
the speed at which I disliked this comment has to be recorded.
I'm not going to lie, Wano, and Egghead was not good for Sanji. Raid suit Sanji was toyed with by Flames on King, and his new upgrade was not that good, Sanji stacked up all of his powers and abilities, and it did not do enough damage so he needed to use it dozens of times. (also it was against Queen, I'm sorry, but every queen moment he was humiliated, with his durability saving him.)
Egghead, sure Sanji had small moments like tanking a seraphim punch to the face, and kicking a light attack, but ones not much of a feat, while the light feat was quickly made pointless because right after that Sanji failed to do it again to save Vegapunk.
What is blud yapping about 💀
@@ocbmega1011 the truth.
@@ginnungagapabyss5639even just moving around sanji was hurting vegapunk i doubt vegapunk would survive if sanji was kicking lasers while carrying vegapunk sanji took no damage from the kizaru kick anyways so that's a good feat
@@mr.mustachefreak9644 great his durability is the same as his fodder siblings with one needing to blackmail Sanji for a win.
They always mention Raid Suit to slander
Name anyway Raid Suit Sanji scales above the Sanji that fought King and Queen simultaneously?
you think sanji is on par with marco?
Sanji slams
what supports that what has sanji done to put him above marco. marco fought the admirals for ages without help he was considered for yonko why do people shit on marco soo much he has always looked impressive against everyone he has faced
@@doggybiscuit29 all he ever did was block peoples attacks he's not that strong bro and I'll have to explain why i think Sanji wins in a separate video
so sanji can block an attack from akainu then?
stop sucking off sanji queen was trash and anyone worth their salt can block a single tiny lazer from kiz i can't believe people have sanji over goats like king kat and marco they would slap sanji
@@sbthesage2100 please do, sanji is literally a better version of marco