UNDERWATER ARROWS... IN A LAKE?
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- Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024
- I shot the Lockdown Longbow into a pool to see what happens at a guesstimated distance of 1.5m the arrows had lost a lot of energy, but could still cause harm. Firstly, I suspect I over estimated the actual distance and secondly YOU also asked how far would the arrows travel?
My field has just flooded so now is the perfect moment to see how far a longbow arrow can actually travel.
This film follows on from • UNDERWATER ARROWS! Jum...
"Out of adversity comes self knowledge" - this is either an ancient quote from a mystical guru or a line I just made up; but either way works for this film.
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This will be my last film of the year; a very weird year and difficult year for us all. We have all made sacrifices in different ways this year, some very significant indeed. We are on this rollercoaster together and I would like to take this moment to thank all those, all over the world, who are fighting this Covid fight for us, on the front lines, day after long day. You are countless and amazing, and to me personally (thankfully) largely anonymous, but today I heard of a customer of mine and supporter of this channel, that fought as a paramedic and died as result, from Covid. Tomasz Napiorkowski, I salute you and all like you. Thank you.
I’m so sorry to hear the Tod, I hope his family is okay!😢
Thank you Tod, these films have been one of things I have looked forward to each week and have really entertained and educated. Keep up the excellent work! I hope 2021 is a great year for you and yours and I'm sure your field will be back to its normal luscious self in no time...
serious respect to the 2020 front line troops, aka medics & nurses; they are fighting a war for the rest of us.
Thanks for this, this means a lot to me and my family. It it's a small gesture that will go a long way
It's been a hard year, and it would have been significantly harder without great educational diversions like your channel. Stay safe and see you in 2021!
"My field floods... anyway, I started shooting"
Ahahahaha! And for that, we're thankful!
This channel is turning into one massive "Yeehaw"
I think that officially makes him an American
That's a puddle, you Americans have no idea!! We regionally have them at this time of year. Britain has that low and highland geography.
@@danielboard9510 Do you remember Hurricane Katrina, or Hurricane Harvey? I think the Americans know what flooding is...
We casually ask Tod a question and God's goes "ya know, that's a good question. I want to see too."
and BAM! Tod gets his own moat.
Everyone: Gets Flooded --> Panics
Tod: Gets Flooded --> Sees an Opportunity
Panic? You've never met a stiff upper lip Brit then. "I say, dear, the grounds seem remarkably soggy today, don't you think?" *slurps some tea*
Fair enough
@@daanwilmer isn't that a panicking Brit?
@@jorenbosmans8065 No! The slurping is an essential part of our heritage and the reason for the Moustashe!
.... Well you need something to filter the leaves out ;0)
Panic would be when you spilt some ..... or put the milk in last ;0)
Terrified would be when you got between a Morris Dancer and his Beer!
Seizes an opportunity* jk both of course and Todd is a badass
Tod, Tod's workshop and Tod Cutler are three different Tods
The TriTod
Also Tod's garden lake.
The Holy Todery?
ProperlyParanoid Orthodox Todism?
I would love to see a collaboration.
Holy crap man!! That is a flood.
If it covered more area surrounding his workshop, he'd have his own moat.
Probably just an old flood plain, I reckon - the village where I grew up was surrounded by miles of water about 4 months of the year.
Flood! You have no idea..Thats like 2 or 3 feet...Thats a puddle!
When life gives you flooding, plant rice.
yeah its pretty common in many parts of temperate or cool weather extencively cleared farmland.. in some parts of new zealand or ireland or the u. k among other places youll see low land flooding on a regular basis.. these were lnce forests and would drain rapidly in heavy rain.. but the rich black soil and thick turf allows the ground to become waterlogged.. farmers have removed many natural creeks aswell.. the outcome is longstanding water in flatter areas
"Honey, no more shooting arrows in the swimming pool. Just shoot them in the back yard as usual." *Proceeds to turn the backyard into a swimming pool...
This looks like those post-apocalyptic situations where some dude is still doing his usual job while the world around him burns.
Isnt it?
@@LordRavensong For me, the picture is completed by him casually continuing without batting an eye as even his podium just tilts over into the water.
Thank you for this year Tod, this year you have really outdone yourself in amazing videos and super interesting experiments!
Your work on this channel not only contribute with awesome experiments, but really forces us to understand how the real world effect in the middle ages have to be.
This channel has for a few years been among my favorits, but particular your longbow videos has outshined nearly every other channel for me this year.
Thank you, and an awesome new year to you and your family!
Thank you - that is very generous
Yeah.
When life gives you lake, make lakeade.
Brilliant 😄
When life gives you literally anything....shoot it with a crossbow and see what happens.
Just make sure you filter or boil your lakeade before drinking it. You don’t know what’s in there.
@@RyanAlexanderBloom water i hope
How about, "when life gives you lake make Lake Mead?"
You should retest your "Lockdown Longbow" to make sure it's still firing arrows at the correct speed after putting it in the water like that
7 views 15 likes! That's how good Tod is!
Speaking of water and moats, would there be any difference in protection from a soaked gambeson? Thought just struck me when I saw you lower the crossbow underneath the water (hope it didn't make it into your house).
Also best of luck and a happy New Year to all.
That's a very good question... my first thought was that it would soften the fabric making it easier to penetrate, but on the other hand it would also soak it making it expand thus making it thicker, and the softness might make it more flexible thus absorbing the energy... in any case, it would be interesting to see how it works.
Soaked gambeson is extremely heavy; you wouldn't be able to get any fighting done in it at all.
@@cheyannei5983 would probably make swimming rather difficult, at best, too.
I heared that a soaked cotton fabric was used to bend iron bars. Apparently, that increases their strength. Maybe that can make them harder to pierce, maybe not. I don't know.
@@MravacKid same idea as to why people may have thought that paper armor would be better when wet as ancient chinese texts claimed. in the end that is false, though when wet it didn't get much worse (and it was pretty good to begin with).
6:49 The sound that made was pretty awesome.
I suggested traveling to a pool. I didn't expect a lake to travel to you. This was true dedication. And a bit of humor as well with the table falling over constantly. This has been the best series.
Another awesome addition to this thankfully ongoing series, Tod! Once again we're all left with many new questions, much more questions than answers. These experiments have indeed become a zen exercise. The odyssy, aka trying is much more the point than the destination, aka results. I wouldn't have it any other way. Please keep up the excellent work. This is some of the best entertainment out there!
This is why "Castle and Moat Building for Dummies" recommends that you keep crocodiles in your moat.
Yes. Or just do the Sauron and fill it with lava.
I believe most historical moats had pointed stakes and such in them, and weren’t usually filled with water. I haven’t actually learned much about moats specifically though, so take that with salt.
Pfft. that's all fine for peasants. My moat has a hippopotamus. I could have gotten a breeding pair, but I didn't want to deal with the plural form.
I still remember half life having a crossbow that you could use as your only underwater weapon. from then on took it for granted they worked. So this does answer something i was curious about.
Spear guns work in very different ways.
This is only about 20 years late but the pistol also worked underwater.
Compound bows work aswell.
Bows of any type, including Crossbows, do not work well when fired underwater. The limbs cannot accelerate efficiently due to the density of water, thus the arrows/bolts leave the string much slower vs in air.
Spear Guns work either by rubber bands or compressed air.
Also: spearguns fire much heavier projectiles which retain their momentum better in the higher resistance of water vs lighter arrows..
I absolutely have to incorporate this into my upcoming D&D game
0:38 "That is a real pain in the butt"
I see what you did there.
More seriously, I admire you making the best of flooding! Hope next year brings better for you and for all of us.
Somehow now I feel the need to see Skal testing how far thrown pommels travel underwater
I was expecting a lady's hand to appear and Tod put a sword in then it be drawn below the surface.
"strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government" : -)
@@engineeredlifeform neither has trump been
@@engineeredlifeform We're an autonomous collective. We take it in turns to be a sort of executive officer for the week. But all the decisions of that officer have to be ratified at a special biweekly meeting...
At first I thought, "Oh my gosh, you guys, y'all are making this man go swimming in a lake for youtube videos." But when you explained what happened I thought of how Jocko Willink says "Good" to bad situations. Turning a situation into a positive. Thank you, Tod, for getting dirty and wet in the cold winter to make this. Your video helps me! One of my writing projects is a fantasy novel and there is a scene in which a platoon of warriors gets attacked by creatures that use the swamp to hide and ambush. Good to know the creatures can retreat into the water and render the platoon's shiny new superior crossbow technology useless, adding to the suspense and danger of the scenario.
Hope the house, workshop and family are okay Tod! I remember the last couple of times it's flooded near me, it's scary stuff to think that everything you've spent your life building could be washed away so fast and there's nothing you can do about it.
Your attitude is absolutely amazing. Fields are flooded which is a pain, but it creates An opportunity to shoot.
Ok, I was shocked at how poorly the crossbow performed under water. Another great video Tod!
What a year it has been! your videos this year have been an absolute blast and I just cannot get enough. your videos have been not just fun but meaningful. I feel I have gained a ton of perspective on bows and arrows and armor and just how things may have worked thanks to you.
yes, it has been a rough year, but you have helped make sure it wasn't all bad. thank you so much for all you've done.
When bowfishing for carp here in the U.S. we use solid fiberglass arrows weighing about 95 grams (1450 gr). These are shot with no fletching to reduce drag and planing in water. The bows my friends and I shoot are modern recurves and compounds in the 50 lb range. Common carp are heavy fish with thick scales so if the arrow has enough force to drive the point completely through the fish it would definitely be enough to injure a person without armor. My observations would indicate that at around 2 meters, an arrow really starts to lose energy exponentially. At that depth a hit has to be spot on in order to not just glance off, taking a few scales with it.
Also in Pennsylvania at least, we call it OSB.
Tod, I love your channel. You do the kind of stuff me and my brothers did as a kid; i.e. shooting arrows in the backyard, or into a lake, only you actually try to learn something from it to gain a historical perspective.
"There goes the neighbour again, raking the lake for crossbow bolts."
I love how you just take everything as an opportunity to do something interesting. Great work as always, Tod.
Thank you so much for the outstanding content you put out, you routinely answer questions I’ve had but had no means to test. Looking forward to seeing more in 2021.
The one good thing to come out of this miserable year is Tod spending some time to do all the wacky shit he wanted to (planned or otherwise) one video after another.
I simply love this channel! The experiments, the over all sound and editing quality, it's all great!
Todd's developing a pretty impressive beard!
Also, I'm really curious about how the angle of incidence affects things (as you mentioned at the end). Penetrating the surface tension of the water undoubtedly saps energy; I wonder how that is affected by the angle?
If you try skipping stones on a pond, you'll find out very quickly.
I'm pretty confident that the compound crossbow is even less effective underwater than a simple crossbow because the more complicated mechanism has much more drag in operation, even if a bolt wasn't loaded. Thank you for all the great videos. Saving my pennies for a Tod's Cutlery product.
Tod's workshop got flooded.
No matter, we'll still shoot the lockdown longbow.
I appreciate the dedication my good Sir! I am glad to be part of this community.
i named the table 'Archie' - amused myself watching 'him' slowly topple over Pythonesque in the background...
Minecraft: "You cannot fire arrows under water. It does no good."
Tod: 0:00
Hi Tod, I use a reasonably light (30lb) recurve bow and solid fibreglass arrows (no fletchings) to hunt fish (for food) and find the arrow has no trouble going through three meters or more of water and the fish. The arrow and line are purpose built for the job and do it quite well. I enjoy your content and attention to reality very much, thank you.
How fabulously opportunistic of you, Tod
Brilliant
Thank you very much, Tod! The Lockdown Longbow series has been incredibly informative and very interesting! Happy new Year!
Your dedication to the experiment is admirable - to flood whole range just to test how arrows behave in the water! Good sir, that's dedication!
;D
All the best, Tod! Thank you!
Great video as always! Would be interesting to see how the arrow's angle of entry would change the energy dissipation, from the 2 videos you made it seems like the farther you are from perpendicular to the surface the more the arrow loses energy (it makes sense intuitively as the torque on the arrow coming from the water increases), this seems to be a worst case scenario.
Thank you for all of the entertaining videos throughout the year.
Thank you Tod. These videos are awesome. Keep them coming.
Poor table-chan being left to drown, please save table-chan
Tod that is something I've never seen before thanks . Happy trails
Thanks for your content this year mate. Love your passion and I've learned a lot from your videos. Keep up the great work!
Thanks, will do!
Now I'm just waiting for; hi it's Tod, at Tod's Workshop and I'm Tod Cuttler and this is another video filmed on location in Todshire, UK. 😂
Loving the drive and passion for simply finding answers, for simply just because.
Hey Tod, thanks for all that you do. Love your videos.
Once again, wonderful work and quality testing! Who knew a flooded range would be so convenient!
Thanks Todd! These have been very interesting and entertaining.
Hear, hear, Tod. Thanks for all the funk in 2020. Look forward to what you got 2021, especially if it involves (quality) Mail!
Me who just watched the movie "Crawl" yesterday: **Nervous sweating**
Thanks for your content. Entertaining, educational and a very welcome distraction.
Thank you very much.
Happy new year.
*neighbor sees Tod raking the lake* "Hey uhh....I know the rake will move leaves out of your yard....don't think it's gonna help you with....a lake..."
Honestly, I can't imagine any situation that would be surprising for Tod's neighbours anymore :D
Just thinking out loud - All of this makes total sense when you recognize that really, gases and liquids act much the same when it comes to fluid dynamics. Imagine if you normally shoot in water, and you try to shoot through molasses instead?
Great video - The numbers are super useful. As a writer I'm taking a lot of the lockdown longbow information to heart.
Wow you go through great sacrifices to test those theories. All my respect good sir.
thank you for useful information you provide in a simple and understandable way
I absolutely love swimming, but I absolutely hate cold water. Tod managed to do what I hate without what I love, for the sake of a rather informative video IMO.
Thank you, sir!
Can't wait for the next video Tod! Cheers!
Well done Tod, thank y our for sharing these interesting videos with us. I think the main factor overlooked with shooting the bolts underwater(or at least the modern bolts) is that they are hollow and therefore have oxygen creating buoyancy and bringing them to the surface as soon as the tension holding them is released. Hence the reason why modern Bowfishing arrows are made of solid fiberglass and not hollow. Just thought you would like to be made aware of this if not already. Thanks again, and God bless. 🏹
Thanks for another great video man, love your work
Love the videos but always have a giggle with the intro when he says " hello it's Todd at Todd's workshop and Todd Cuttler here" I always wonder are there multiple Todd's ? 😁
There can be only one Tod!!!! (Multiple companies)
The TriTod!
**makes a vaguely benediction-ish motion with his hand** In the name of the cutler, and the workshop, and the lockdown longbow....amen.
@@tods_workshop Now you sound like the Highlander!! There can be only one!
Now that was a film!
Belated Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year Tod
4:40 RIP table
great work as always! oh and living the beard btw :) looks super good on you.
Great stuff Tod.
I tip my hat to your dedication to read the comments and improve your experiments based on the feedback you receive.
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All I can see is a confused brit trying to deal with a flood by shooting the water
Another interesting video by Tod, making use of what was available.
It made me wonder, how badly were the bowstrings affected by water, or even heavy rain?
Now that's dedication. Flooding your field for content!
l appreciate all you do for us Tod. That water must be freezing cold.
Nice one Tod; & remember that there's no such thing as a failed experiment!
A Happier New Year to all & much love to the NHS techs & medics for their sacrifice.
My first thought:
Did he flood his garden just to test arrows under water?
Science!
Another thought: I guess his wife was ok with that, as long as it wasn't their garden!
Hey Tod, do you think there would be a difference in how arrows shot into water performed vs how javelins or spears thrown / dropped into water would perform? Since you don’t need to worry about distance from the top of a castle wall down to the moat, I think a heavier projectile without fletchings could do really well. (Maybe even a job for mass plumbata?) hope you have a great holiday season. Thanks for making videos!
Thank you sir for another awesome video! Epitome of how to handle rubbish situations. Hope the shop wasn't damaged. Happy New year! Looking forward to whatever you bring us in 2021.
PS underwater crossbow shirt?
Hope you had a great Christmas with the family Tod! Cant wait for 2021 to see what new experiments and tests you get up to!
Thanks and you too and everyone!!!
I feel this video better shows what happens to an arrow shot into water. Thank you for revisiting it.
The sacrifices you make for us Tod! Did you really have to flood your backyard for the experiment? Of course you did, you legend!
If life gives you lemons... Amphibious archery.
Maybe its the fletchings interacting with the water that slows the arrows. Speargun arrows dont have that and they travel a good distance underwater. Cheers and God bless.
I couldn't help but giggle after watching table float/fall over a second time. And tod of course not giving a F.
Thanks for doing the underwater test!
meanwhile Geralt of Rivia one-shots drwoners 15 meters underwater with his tiny crossbow
While above water it takes down griffins and deals 1 damage.
He also drops from a 1ft height and dies instantly.
I was looking for this comment ;-)
Like others have said, it would be interesting to shoot straight down to see how deep you'd have to go to get beyond the arrows.
Wait so the Loch Ness Monster IS being hunted with a Welsh longbow? At least, that’s what I’m imagining.
Fishing bows are a thing, aren't they? I wonder if/how they differ from these kind of bows.
@@pseudomonad From my 3 seconds of google; the bows themselves are just regular 30-ish pound bows, it's the arrows that make the difference, Tod mentions the fletching near the end too.
@@pseudomonad big difference is that the arrows travel through the water vertically, not horizontally. the actual distance those fishing arrows move under water is quite short. they get momentum from their time in the air and manage to keep most of that momentum during their short stay in the water.
More like an Afanc
@@wouter.de.ruiter Jörg Sprave recently made short bolts/arrows that have just two pieces of fletching made of metal (the whole thing is made of metal) - would this work better under water?
Merry Christmas Tod xx
This is when you break out the speargun. Always illuminating. Thank you.
Great video as always. Appeals to the engineer in me and the 14 year old who is in there somewhere. A couple of Qs. 1. So how does this relate to bow fishing which obviously works. Is it lack of Fletching or angle of incidence? 2. You demonstrated arrows pass through sand bags easily. Why is the water more of a problem? Is it because the nature of how the sand (grains) or water (molecules) particles move out of the way of the head changes with size? The water seems to offer more resistance to a moving arrow. Maybe repeat with no Fletching and alter incidence angle?
Just watched the swimming pool vid where incidence was higher but still only 30 degrees or so.
Thanks : ) you always get to the heart of the questions of the day. any chance you could test out swimming in armour or sword wielding under water while you have a lake handy?
reminds me of when i tried to cut through water with a sword and the sword just randomly swayed to the right and nearly cut into my leg. maybe the arrows do the same they kinda get stuck in a "track" in the water. also i would like to see if it works when shooting from straight up and having the board be on the ground like a meter under water. to simulate someone swimming next to a castle wall and trying to dive to avoid the arrows
The interface between two mediums is always critical: I suspect it's basically refracting and losing energy like that. Better strike with zero angle of incidence.
@@tl8211 most definitely. water wants to stick together and not push apart so when something with high energy goes into the water like that it is less akin to a smooth dive and more of a crash. like they say how with enough energy from falling from a high enough distance you will hit the water and it will be like hitting concrete or something like that. so when you shoot an arrow into the lake, the water quickly dissipates the arrows energy due to its high energy output and combined with the waters resistance . although i am not a expert on this by any means, a quick google search says this is called "drag", as friction between the object and the water (water resistance) increases with the amount of velocity the object is moving as well as many other factors.
@@cslantz4020 Yeah, the drag is proportional to the square of speed (at least for some range of speeds), and so at high speeds the forces can get quite enormous. That's why for the same caliber slower and heavier does better in water than fast and light (in sand too, that has somewhat similar drag equations).
Merry Christmas, Tod.
When you got down low, I wondered if you were going to try an make the arrows skip! Do you have a spear? If so, how about repeating the experiment with a thrown spear?
Great vid, great use of a flooded range.
Thanks for the interesting and thought provoking content
i just commented about how i wanted to see more on this subject on your last water experiment, and boom, more.
:D
The dedication he haves to film a video in a lake
Hiya Tod, just a question have you thought of shooting into the lake/water from higher up? When you would shoot from a wall into a moat you could imagine this is high up. Depending on which type of fortress it was it could be fairly low at like 2 or 3m or much higher like the original hight of Leeds Castle for example with 10m. You did say in the genning video you wanted to see if someone trying to swim away would be able to escape unharmed. What happens with the arrow when the angle it hits the water with is changed, which happens when you should from higher up?
"Are there any sharks on Tod's range?"
"Nah ... Crocodiles eat all the sharks"
Great video.(someone remind me never to lend Tod my crossbow). Again , I’m surprised. I didn’t expect the under water shot to be so disrupted by the water.(especially when the above water shot passed straight through.