BRIAN GAMBLE gets SHOOT beaten on WWE TV - A Match that got TOO REAL TOO FAST
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- December 17, 2001 - Only about six months after losing his temper on Mike Bell over an accident, Perry Saturn found himself in another shoot fight when enhancement talent (jobber) BRIAN GAMBLE decides he doesn't want to lose the match he was hired to lose in.
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Did Brian Gamble deserve the beating that Mike Bell ended up getting? How would you have handled this?
Well that Gamble did not pay off its like he earned what he received if not more. Saturn did what I think was best just trying to subdue him. If still had the peroxide it would have went vastly worse hehe. I'm sure if I kicked you in the stomach you would try to throw hands at that point too hehe. Then again it would probably be more than enough to have evacuate lunch hehe. This was just Self Defense not a choice like New Jack with Gypsy Joe among others. Madusa made the right choice driving the monster trucks to be fair hehe.
Rimshot moment on that gamble paying off joke. What blew my mind was hed actually work a match in Ring of Honor. Just one. Never brought back afterwards
@@JOBdOut Hehe probably went better for him compared to Jeff Hardy first time there. I know crowd did not react well form reading about it recently as had boredom hehe. You know how WH dregs up stuff. I saw CM Punk win Tag Title with Julio Dinero in NWA Cyberspace on YT. That surprised me as thought it was like a work or would not show up. I was partly right as he quit never defended hehe. That was surreal to see him in some small venue. He had teamed with him in TNA as The Gathering or so. Maven showed up there but don't think he ever wrestled among others. For them it was worth booking as a GAmble. Even UFC having that Reality how for him will never be forgot. I remember his dog like makes in the house as most memorable part. Though Rhodes To The Top was next level heh. Rimshot makes me think of something the nasty boys would do especially Knobbs.
Totally. Thing is, Gamble would've been able to defend himself far better than Bell did.
@@RyCoke27 Maybe I'd still have to bet on Saturn who might up his game too. I'm sure we would have gotten a real show if this came first like Chicken and Egg ;).
Saturn was so much better than Vince allowed him to be, so underrated
Couldn't agree more. Imagine what he coulda done during the smackdown six era. Even at his worst hedve been a good partner for A-Train
He wasn't as charismatic as Eddie or as technically sound as malenko or benoit, he had a good body and could be perceived as a tough Guy, definitely couldve have had a better in the midcard instead of being a preliminary guy
I think throwing the Eliminators into a TLC match with the Dudleys the Hardys and Edge and Christen would have been cool
Saturn showed an enormous amount of restraint, given the circumstances. Saturn was incredibly talented and a legit beast.
It was definite proof that Saturn had actually learned his lesson following the Mike Bell incident
Saturn didn't deserve the outcome he got. Gamble didn't get enough of a lesson.
I'm on Saturn's side on this one! This Joe Schmo went into business for himself and got what he deserved !
He’s damn lucky WWF was a publicly traded company by then. If this was the territory days, he most likely wouldn’t be walking out under his own power.
@@MichaelSmith-fq6hz even Vince would have allowed Perry to do whatever he wanted at that moment he would have given a shit, if he shot beat the shit out of him and then broke his arm
No good deed goes unpunished. Seemed like a good guy.
I guess perry saturn is now the jobber killer
Perry Saturn was a legit badass, not only as a talent in pro wrestling, but also when he was serving a stint in The Army as an Airborne Ranger
I used to work with Gamble at an office job about 15 years ago. Nice guy
I feel like he would be - dunno wth he was thinking against Saturn though
@@JOBdOut he was thinking he could impress upstairs. He's lucky in some ways because saturn was trained by killer Kowalski if perry wanted to he could have ended the match in seconds with a guillotine choke. One of the things that Killer taught at his school was how to protect yourself if someone shot on you, I remember seeing it advertised on the website as part of the syllabus.
same haha i’m working with him right now, thats the only reason i came to look him up, and he really is a nice guy
@bobbo8446 not sure he would want to talk about it but id love to chat with him and get his take since a lot of times in these cases we dont get his side of the story
Saturn is a great wrestler and human being. Hope he's doing well. I watched a shoot where he commented on forgiveness which I found very profound.
Claydogg got it right. All the drama comments were assumed, or made up by some ding-dong in the WWF at the time.
The reality is much less fantastical or stupid. He knocked me out on my feet that first elbow, then cracked me a fresh one for no bump, which knocked me awake…🫨😵💫😳. So his anger, given his incorrect assumption that I was trying to tough-guy his ass, was unfortunately wrong. But I understand. He proceeded to lay it All in there str8 strong style street son. And that kick 😳😲 bout kicked my soul out for me. But I was cool because all I wanted was to stay awake. Felt like I was out for 2 min but was 2 seconds. lol. Truly spent the whole match just hanging in and praying to sweet Bby Jesus to please Not let me get knocked tfOut on Monday Night. Everything else was just another day at the office. I was only really mad at him at all for dislocating my shoulder for me. It’s fucked up to this day. My friend Bubba, Ray, and Devn did me a solid favor by coming over and getting in between me and Perry backstage after the match. I was sitting with the EMT squad getting my shoulder popped back in when Perry came over and got in my face. And at that point, I’m thinking I just got my ass kicked on Monday night raw, so I got nothing to lose and luckily Bubba Ray knew me well enough from back when I was doing American gladiators and roller jam, so he knew I was in MMA for 30 years and that I was about to make a mistake. He came over and got in the middle of us, and said we don’t have a problem here do we gentlemen, or do we need to have a sit down with the taker?
I don’t have to explain to any of marks wtf that means. So you know that I said, no, sir Bubba I’m good. And put my hand out and said, thank you for the match Perry, and this was at the gorilla position in front of everyone, so he had to shake my hand there’s a lot of tradition in wrestling gentlemen, it’s an extremely tight brotherhood and one of the traditions we hold is you don’t fuck around or fight in the back. We’re all professionals and we all want to go home to our families at the end of the day. Vince had me beat up, likely because roller jam. The world skating league is responsible for creating spike TV and we were running that network while Vince was trying to get Monday night raw on there and and eventually told Spike TV that he would put Monday night raw on their network as long as they got rid of that stupid roller derby show. Which ran for five years. So say what you will, gentlemen because at the end of the day, it was just one more superstar sports network, that I wanted to be a part of, and didn’t stop until I made it happen. I made it to the show.
In Paris is actually my freaking hero. Now after I heard how he saved that one young lady from a horrible situation, and even took some serious damage in the process to smash these dudes. Respect. Only.
@@briangamble1741 The real Brian was born in 1970 and the match took place in 2001, so he couldn't have been in MMA for 30 years. Good story though. "...so he knew I was in MMA for 30 years and that I was about to make a mistake."
To think that your going to win on WWE when they want the other guy to win his life is sad for doing the right thing .
From what I remember reading , Saturn was an ex-army ranger. So he's a guy who would have ran through Gamble honestly. That guy was spared by the WWE people there.
Gamble knew mma, but was he any good?
How good are army rangers at hand to hand combat? I don't know any who are in mma.
@@thomasrispo8587 tim Kennedy, serving army ranger and ufc fighter.
@@lewisb85 not all Army Rangers have MMA martial arts experience and the hand to hand training isn’t trained as much as an MMA school. I would think if he was competent at MMA he would beat Saturn but he was out of line and a jerk for no selling.
@@Initium1000 But in Killer's school they taught catch wrestling basically listed in the syllabus "what to do if an opponent shoots on you".
Brian gamble is the name of a local weather man
About as reliable too
Brian Gamble screwed up his entire pro wrestling career because he wanted to look good to his hometown crowd.
Hard to believe Saturn was an Army Ranger with those eyes.
I do believe he is an underated wrestler. I dug his matches
On the following Smackdown on December 27, 2001, after coming out of his limo, Mr. McMahon shook hands with Saturn when he met him, in what appears to be an out-of-character moment for both men. At that point, Saturn didn’t have the Moppy/“You’re Welcome” gimmick anymore.
Why the FUCK would you shoot on Perry Saturn of all people??? Dear lord.
" gamble" was an appropriate name for him because he's literally gambling with his life by shooting on Saturn
I’ve not seen this since now. Saw the Bell one many times, but only heard of this. Thanks for the upload.
Cheers. Many more down the pipeline. One im trying to get past age-gate restrictions
Saturn probably gave him a bit more leeway because Gamble was so green. Bell had been around enough not to make the mistakes he did. He still didn't deserve that beating though.
Saturn does not like it when jobber arm drags him, at all
Perry Saturn was my favorite in ring talent of all time... instead of dwelling on what could of been. I like to watch his stuff in the WCW and ECW days
Super thankful for Tajiri posting a recent photo with him so we know Saturn is alive and well
Damn Another Hometown Jobber Lucky Brian Gamble Didn't Get The Mike Blackwell Treatment....
Brain gamble vs steve blackman hardcore match would have been crazy
Love ya Saturn
I really don't like when people shoot on each other in the ring. You often see it as a way to make a statement and that's just dumb. So I came into this video expecting to side with Gamble. But I don't. I don't know what else Saturn was supposed to do, it looked like he was trying to just get by but it wasn't working so he forced the match to a close. So, yeah, I suppose I don't like it but I think it was the best thing he could think to do.
Frankly I think he did a hell of a job and proved to WWE that he learned his lesson from the Mike Bell incident. But yeah, he'd wrestle only on metal for the next few months before an ACL injury. Hed be unemployed within a year.
tbh i think saturn had no hope, especially considering gamble was being unprofessional. if i was in saturns position - especially w the mike bell incident looming over my head -, i wouldve just tried to roll him up and forced a fast count - but tbh how much do you wanna bet he wouldve kicked out of that? im not sure what gamble was thinking lol. very similar to mike blackwell, guy who thought he was hot shit deciding to shoot on the one guy you dont shoot on
Every career I've ever had - the absolute worst hire is the guy who walks in on day one, or even the interview, thinking theyre good enough to run the place. Blackwell and Gamble both on day ONE thought they were bigger than the stars.
I agree that Saturn did about the best he could've done in this situation. Gamble almost definitely would've tried to kick out of an early pin (Blackwell did) but the ref could have just kept the count going regardless like they did with Blackwell.
The main difference between the Mike Blackwell incident and this one for me is that I don't think Blackwell wanted to actually win the match and didn't even really "shoot" per se. I mean, the guy didn't even attempt any offense. He just wasn't really selling the moves because he didn't want to steamrolled and wanted to at least look respectable in front of friends and family.
Whereas Gamble said that he couldn't lose and went full shoot ignoring several attempts to right the ship.
Based off of what they actually did and the response it got, Gamble got off waaaaay easy compared to Blackwell.
@@Jonathan-ih7qp I do agree that he got off much better than blackwell did -- especially as all blackwell wanted to do was look respectable in front of his friends and family. gamble was paired with the guy who was already in trouble for shooting on a completely random guy for no reason, so i think he was safe. meanwhile, i don't think spivey or sid cared about whether or not blackwell shooted (shot?) on them or not, they were just focused on tearing him to tiny pieces :')
Gamble is very very fortunate that he faced Saturn, and even though Saturn should've given him a more brutal beating, Saturn was able to calm down enough to make it backstage, where he would proceed to be threatened by Gamble, who doesn't realize how lucky he was to be kicked out and banned from the promotion. He's lucky that the Undertaker/Stone Cold was not at the arena.
Now, if gamble had a tag partner and faced the Dudley boys, he'd probably be ragdolled just like the nasty boys did. .
Saturn did the right thing more this time and tried to get it back on track but this guy was obviously trying to go into business for himself saying shit like 'i can't lose Infront of my friends and family who are there' like it's a work dude and the guy obviously wasn't smartened up about the buisness very well
The match was booked the wrong way. Gamble was a big guy who certainly didn't look like a typical jobber. It should have been a dark match preferably against another jobber. The Rock's first match was a tryout against Steve Lombardi at a tv taping. It was a dark match and they discussed what they would do before hand. It was even decided that The Rock would be going over. The following night Rock wrestled Chris Candido but this time he did the job. It was also untelevised. That's how you bring a guy along.
Gamble did have another match against another "jobber" on that same day- I think it was Sean Hill. Both Hill and Gamble had two matches, one against each other and one against a more established talent.
Thats right, Hill took on Funaki to a much less awkward match
@@JOBdOut Ironically Funaki is a bigger shooter than saturn ever was he came from the japanese shoot style promotions like uwfi etc, and was trained by fujiwara, ive been to one of funaki's seminars he's very talented at making it look like people can beat him up, because if you had a attitude or messed up he had the skills to "correct" that. basically you don't want to get into a receipt competition with funaki you won't win.
Saturn messed up with Bell so I can’t feel sorry for him
What would’ve happened if Funaki woulda been in the match instead of Saturn?
Saturn is one of my favorites of all time.
Thats such a good what if. If Hill got Saturn and Gamble got Funaki
@@JOBdOut funaki would have stretched him, Funaki was trained by Yoshiaki Fujiwara, who did fujiwara also help train? sakuraba, Don't let the comedy character Funaki got in the wwe deceive you the guy was a legit shooter who went through the Pro Wrestling Fujiwara Group. Like the UWFI they were a "shoot" style promotion, the beating he would have got from funaki would have been worst. I've been to one of his seminars, he's very much like Adrian street was as in the last guy you'd expect to be a badass, but if you had an attitude or got smart with him he'd beat the piss out of you.
When i broke into the biz in 1980 there were only a small number of Wrestling schools in The U.S. and Canada. Fast Forward to mid to late 1990's and present time, Wrestling training schools popped up like Starbucks on every corner in any town USA.
Protocol, respect, patience, and paying your dues was a huge part of the business up until these training schools popped up everywhere.
So many of those in the business have that sense of entitlement and with today being July 29th, 2023 they expect to be booked for Wrestlemania 2024.
Still some good kids out there in the business but it is what it is. I worked in the airline industry for 16 plus years and to this day we still get those new hires who feel that they deserve 5 weeks vacation time their first year.
No Good Deed Goes Unpunished even I hurt neck leading to fusion by helping Female heh. Though I thought he was gone like this year or last or maybe I confused him with Mahoney or others. I think he was more than fair the guy was deranged saying how he can't lose something that isn't real because has people there? Sean Durzi had 200 Tickets to Maple Leafs game Kings lost like 5 0 but least he was Even. That dude was probably Gator Skater so it made him go a bit over the edge. What can he really do when starts kicking him in stomach its like a really good match. I think way he like tackled him or a few moves could tell its real hehe. Then the stuff in back could see why never hired again haha.
Perry getting shot led him to using crystal meth?
Anybody who no sells 2 gun shots was ALREADY on crystal meth my guy .
Just my 2 cents, great vid!
I laughed and i shouldnt have - but i did. Glad you enjoyed it
Yeah brain
Backseat smark here: you shouldn't shoot in the ring as a rule, but especially not when you're enhancement talent and especially especially not when the other guy can stretch you.
Are we getting a Wee Willie Wilkins video?
Saturn beating up Mike Bell was a punk move. I've always though the higher up guys beating a jobber in the ring is a punk move. Usually the jobber is probably confused as to what is happening and, since they are jobbers, wondering if this is part of the show. They don't want to lose their job, so they don't usually fight back.
In this case, though, Gamble was an idiot.
Sounded to me like Saturn handled the Gamble situation about as well as could be expected. The Gamble idiot should be thankful it wasn't Dan Spivey he decided to shoot on. And running his mouth like he did, ejecting him from the building might have saved him some pain. I also wish Saturn could have gotten clean earlier, that and not got such a severe injury. I suspect his career would have went much further and bigger if not for those issues.
Saturn gave him three chances to get it right
Gamble would've went onto a nothing jobber career in WWF anyway so what's the difference?
The difference is in the bank account. Not to mention name recognition, even for jobbers, goes farther nowadays
yeah gamble gambled with his luck why did he do that? also i thikn it was his injuries and prob if he had drug addiction to begin with bless him i hope he is well
Like Sting told Van Hammer, "There's more supply than demand in the wrestling business'"
There was no room for jobbers like Gamble, Bell or Saturn.
This guy deserved that….
Saturn was an awesome dude. I met him numerous times back int he ECW days. I was friends with some of the boys then so I got to meet many others over the years. Saturn was probably, based on his legit background being trained to kill lol, the scariest guy in the locker room. Yet hang with him, have a drink with him, just talk and he was so down to earth and cool. I'd never have wanted to be on his bad side, but I have nothing but kind words based on my experiences with him. he was honestly in my top 5 favorite wrestlers ever because he was so innovative move wise and I knew he was also legit. The thing that killed Saturn's career (aside from the "incidents") was the same thing that hurt Malenko, as amazing as they were in the ring, they couldn't really promo to ever make it to the next level. Saturn and Bigelow were two people I admired most in the business because they both literally saved people from dying. Saturn the woman being raped, and Bigelow the kids from a burning house. Saturn deserved far better than he ended up with I'm afraid.
I don't really know Brian Gamble was a real nobody enhancement talent who should have done his job instead of pissing off & provoking Perry Saturn.
And that my friend is why Brian Gamble is not a star
DON'T HATE ON ROLLER JAM THAT SHOW WAS AWESOME TO THE POINT I TRIED TO GET ON IT BACK IN THE DAY DUE TO MY HISTORY IN SPEED SKATING I THOUGHT THAT SHOW WAS BAD ASS FOR A YOUNG HOT HEADED LATE TEENER BACK IN THOSE DAYS 😂😂😂😂😂
Honestly I loved watching it on fridays with ECW. It actually hurt more to learn Roller Jam was fake and scripted than it did when I learned about wrestling