For beginners I highly suggest buying used bow and name brand value arrows. Bows that cost much more than your budget can be had in great shape for great prices used as people upgrade to the newest model out. This gives you a very nice bow to learn with. Stick with brand names, I can't stress that enough. It's not paying for the name, it's buying the experience in design and build.
Maintenance and support is also a factor. More people are familiar with the more common manufacturers and models, as they are usually quite modular. Coaches and other archer are more likely to be able to help you get your equipment in order, and archery stores will have an easier time tuning your bow and ordering replacement parts if needed.
So dang true, and speaking from experience. Bought a $100 Amazon take down recurve bow at #30 draw weight and as I progressed to #35, #40 and now at #45 limbs and nicer accessories, the riser delaminated, forcing me to purchase an alloy riser that fit the same limbs. Wasted that $100 and was no bargain... Same with arrows. I bought 4 sets of crap carbon arrows before settling on Carbon Impact Ultrafasts and Super Clubs and was amazed at how well they flew out of the bow.
This is actually a serious issue. There are numerous reports of native wildlife being (illegally) killed by compound shooters, and they have the telltale signs of cheap online purchases. This often raises the question of legal bow ownership in Australia.
google4d "beginner" instead and got a result suggesting the diamond edge something. On sale right now for 349.99 in Cabelas. Dunno if it's good or not.
@@ofboriken The Diamond Infinite Edge and Diamond SB-1 are excellent entry level compound bows (Diamond is Bowtech's brand). PSE and Bear also make good compounds at similar price point. It's the step below this tier where things get hairy; anonymous brand knockoffs, you get maybe even less than you pay for and maybe even something mechanically unsafe.
30 Years ago, my archery course in collage used fiberglass bows. Before that I learned to use a fiberglass bow in the boy scouts. I have a 30lbs fiberglass bow that I love to shoot. They are what the are and they are not hunting bows or target bows. It is a different sport. Love your channel.
+Henry Johnston If you want to accept the limitations imposed by a fiberglass bow, then they are fine. Too little bow is a problem, too much bow is a problem as well.
Someone at my school is one of those people who try to impress their mates with their $100 eBay compound bow and he doesn't even know a thing about them. Don't get me wrong I'm a recurve shooter so I'm no expert but I asked him what the let off was and he said it didn't have any. Kill me now
I would always recommed to start at a club if you have the option. They often have equiptment you can borrow and they will teach you basic form. I myself used the "weak and soft bows" of the club for six months before I bought my first bow as you might not even know what you want when you start out.
Since I've been doing archery a lot lately friends and family have been looking to me for advice, so Nu Sensei's video's have been very helpful. One thing I've come to recommend is looking to traditional archery for those on a budget. A good takedown wooden recurve can be had for $100-130 in the US. A bow like that can provide everything one needs to learn and to grow as an archer, without the expense of compound bows and all of their associated gadgets. Though certainly used bows are a good option too, it does limit your options to what's available, and what's available might not be the right fit. Sometimes warning people away from cheap bows can seem to new archers like snobbery against people with a limited budget (and archery snobbery does exist), but as pointed out in this video, there are plenty of affordable recurves for not that much more than the bottom of the barrel bows, and the takedown design makes for a much better value for your money since you can buy just one bow and upgrade the limbs as needed.
The last bit about arrows was recognizable, remember when i was just beginning I bought some fiberglass arrows with vanes on a bow without a shelf.... All seems so obvious in hindsight, but seemed logical at the time. Hopefully this video will keep people from wasting money, keep up the good work!
In Germany you would just rent a bow to use until you know you like archery. Just looked up one of the more expensive offers - it's like 27.5€ (that's 44.42 $AU) a month for a Diamond Bowtech Infinite Edge Pro - but you can start as low as €10 for a simple but good Compound, Longbow or Recurve. Many people keep using a rented bow for the first one or two years until they feel confident picking their first own bow. In fact that's how I got into archery - I rented a Hoyt Tenacity and fell madly in love with it, so I bought it as "used item" (since I already used it) and got it for so much less that the difference in price almost made up for the rent I paid before =)
Come on mate, tell it like it is. Don't hold back. "They're both crap, you're pissing money into....." Love it. Cheap crap is cheap crap. Not worth bothering with.
The bow i have now costs around 140$ and i really like it. It has an aluminium riser and fiberglass limbs. It has attachment points for stabilisers and plungers and sights. Something like this is what i would recommend to a new archer. If anyone here is Swedish and is looking for a great beginner bow, take a look at the Scorpion recurve from fondprodukter (Swedish company) it has points for attachments if you want to upgrade it later and you can get new limbs later.
When I first got into archery, I purchased an Amazon compound bow for around $150.00. Almost immediately, I decided I really enjoyed the sport and purchased a Diamond. Now I have an addiction and I look forward to a better bow and also getting a recurve and maybe a longbow.
Absolutely don't cheap out on a sight. My first one was a £20 thing that was functionally fine as a sight, but you had to retighten all the screws on it after every 3 or so shots and it would make a huge SLAM noise every time you fired as it flexed like a beast. You don't need to go for the £300+ pro quality ones, but I would say look in the £100 range for something that's not going to need constant maintenance and won't crack like a whip on every shot.
I bought an cheap Apex Hunting Warrior`X compound bow. I picked it up used for $100 with; 5 pin sight, stabilizer, whisper biscuit rest and bow bag included. All I needed to add was a D loop, release aid and arrows, it was a great buy for me and most of the accessories will be transferable to a later/better bow. I've been shooting with it for 4 months now and loving it dispute knowing it is old tech (slow cams). I've picked up a cheap recurve (Cartel Triple) too in the last month to try compare the different styles of shooting and I'm enjoying it too. I'll probably get an Ignite or Infinite edge down the line as they are better bows and my local pro shop can support them better but if I had to get a $500 compound and $100 set of arrows to start I probably never would have started into archery at all. Just because you start with cheap equipment doesn't mean it is useless or you cannot learn with it or move on to better gear later. @NUSensei: Thanks for all the videos, I've learnt a lot from your channel over the last 4 months. There are no beginner courses available in my area (full waiting lists or no courses run at all), if not for people like you sharing their knowledge I would not have had such a great time learning.
+Adam Grima (Stormwolf) i have an old bow , indian archery timberland stalker 40-60 pound draw produced in 1984 . it's old and slow but still great to shoot . picked it up at a goodwill for $50.00 just had to get new accessories and arrows . you can get into archery even on the tightest budget .
I started recently and have been buying almost everything second hand. The gear/ brands I got cost a fraction of what they were new. My budget might allow more mid to high end stuff but it was still 40-50% discounted. The two things about starting this way is one needs to do more research to have a better understanding of what to look for and why it's needed or if needed. Otherwise what do you buy? Everything is discounted 20-50% on the second hand market. You have to know what you are looking for - either a brand, a model, a size or a poundage, etc. This will help you narrow the choices to something reasonable and manageable. Time reading and researching is not going to cost money and will help one make a better first choice. The second point to keep to is it takes patience. Getting everything NOW will only cost more money. It took me over a month making different purchases from different sellers to collect one set of limbs three weeks later one riser and two weeks after that, the stabilizers. All second hand. Some of the other things like the sight and plunger, etc. I got at a discount but they are new. I will probably have to buy the KSL tab new and I will get books including KS Lee's book. Considering the money I saved on just the bow, I think it's okay to get a new tab and forming that with my own hand. Time to keep practicing! BTW, thank you NuSensei for your videos. I often watch them and even re-watch certain ones for fun or to refresh the information. Maybe someday I'll make a video about my starting experience. Cheers.
I bought a PSE Nova 4 and a Hoyt MT sport zr200 with the cam and a half system for $60 total at a local auction. Inexpensive isn't always a bad thing, cheap usually is and knowing the difference can help you spot a diamond in the rough. I've now got a decent platform to assemble a bowfishing rig onto (the PSE) and an amazing how for hunting (the Hoyt). Something satisfying about bagging the big one with less then a $100 setup while there are others throwing money at the sport/hobby wondering why they aren't getting results. Practice and knowing your bow is key.
I just made my 1st pvc bow with approx 40 lb draw for my backyard carpet backstop for $12. I'm loving it! Shooting 100 grain with 350 spines at 31" inches. Still love your videos Nu San. P.S. I love Olympic team recurve.
I got into archery via a garage sale buying a 25# "supposed" recurve (sports flight) by barnett sportsflight for $2. I made my own 35# pvc bow and understood "cheap/frustration". I jumped up to a $80. toparchary 50# hunting takedown recurve. To much # to quick. After 30 shots I was shaking on aim..... Just bought a $80. 55# compound leader accessories (same as SAS seige, Hotka, Rambo, and half a dozen other names) and am thoughly enjoying shooting the 70% let off bow. Nusensei is right on the cheap sights as I have had to add a three pin hunting sight. Have also added a peep sight, limb savers, brush arrow rest, and string dampners, as well as a short stabilizer. I am shooting mossy oak carbons with 350 spines from Walmart although I added feathers instead of veins. I love Nusensai's video's but I still think that this $80 compound is well worth the price, and is a great step up to a hybrid compound bow which looks like my recurve.
That blue bow you're holding at 3:28 is just like the one my in-laws got for my son a couple weeks ago. We took it to a range in a local park, and neither one of us could hit the target, or even the straw bales behind it, from 20 feet. The tail of the (cheap fiberglass) arrow would kick away from the bow as the fletching passed the shelf, and it would go off-course by about a foot for every 10 feet it traveled. I can't see how my son's going to get excited about archery with a bow this bad, and I can't see how I justify to my wife getting a better bow for him if he's not excited about archery.
A bow has to be matched up with arrows of the correct spine, or else it won't shoot accurately. I wouldn't trust any manufacturer that sells arrows with the bow as a complete package. For one, they have no clue as to the actual draw weight of the bow at your draw length. As NuSensei keenly noted, there is no such thing as a one-size-fits-all arrow. Even for a given bow, an arrow might perform well in the hands of one shooter and then that same arrow will perform terribly with the same bow in the hands of another shooter with a different draw length.
Enjoy your videos and agree with you. Many times you can get a better quality bow from trade ins at your archery shop or even end of year closeouts. In 2004 I bought my bear trx32 for less than 300.00 set up to fit me with arrows and case and have seen no need to replace it as it is comparable with many new models and very accurate
Just bought my first hunting bow a couple days ago a diamond provider with the RAK package dealer threw in a half dozen free arrows too (good carbon ones at that)...paid about 487 US dollars and couldn't be happier.
Exactly. And my first recurve before that was okay as well. 60 dollars. I say give it a go with whatever you can afford. If you're really interested in archery, you will save money for a better bow. If not, no expensive bow will change your mind. Besides, Lars proved you can shoot great even with this "crap" bow But this video is more angled towards Olympic style archery.
The only thing I wouldn't but from ebay or amazon is the 100-200$ laminated bows as they tend to have some crap quality control and you end up with gaps in the glue that leads to a failure, but I have a solid wood seer handle either a glass limb I paid 130ish dollars plus tax and shipping and it's great
@@gizmonomono I actually bought a top archery bow, I almost bought the same laminated bow he reviews but in 50lb, decided with a wood and glass bow instead from them instead 60lb at 32" have had no issues with it what so ever, seems to hold up fine excited for my imre bow though
Quality control with a bow that consists of laminates and glue vs just wood seers and handles and glass limbs is not that great, spending 100-200$ on a wood and glass bow is fine obviously you will pay for the quality in going a bit more but if you order from a different country you can find cheap options while spending under 200$ on laminated bow I would not recommend, I spent probably 160$ cad on a bow from amazon but my bow from imre is only 180$ maybe 200 with shipping
My first bow was a Ben Pearson jetbow. I didn't spend a dime on it because I simply found that thing in the garage hanging on a nail with a few fiberglass and aluminum arrows I had simply found on the property with vains I took up the hobby. Shot that thing everyday for months then I realized I wanted to actually progress so I spent $300 on a diamond razor edge. I still have that bow and shot it till I broke all the arrows I bought for it this year but 7 years is pretty good to not break or loose an arrow so I can't complain much. About a year ago someone gave me an old Bear whitetail hunter. From what I understand it's more or less the bow that put compund bows in the mainstream. It's like someone took a recurve and cut the ends off the limbs to put wheels on it then they more wheels on it for cables. For me it works for shooting at a Target but I've always got better options
My brother mentioned the same thing to me not to buy cheap bows ie. recurve, but he understand in some circumstances why I done it, but I’ve just order something slightly better. Black sheep recurve is so so but advoid buying it unless your on a tight budget
For someone new like me, sometimes it's hard to tell whats crap and whats good. My compound hunting bow was a package with three pin sight, whisker biscuit arrow rest, and a quiver. $350 U.S. dollars. Seems to be doing the job, although I did end up getting a better sight, a drop away rest, and a nicer stabilizer. lol
Just buy good recurve which is also pretty and even if you stop shooting, you can still use it as piece of ''furniture'' :) . Also it will last you a lifetime if properly stored.
Is why I bought a Samick sage elite which is actually a Galaxy sage elite as of 2020.. for 150 dollars I love my purchase. When it comes to compound bows your hit it on the head... I didn't want to spend 200 plus dollars on a cheap compound or 400 plus on a good quality compound.. recurve is the best place to start if your on a budget and like you said 150 or 200 gets you a good bow even 135 bucks since the samick sage starts at that price down to 120.
Just scored an old Golden Eagle compound bow with 18 Easton xx75 2216 feather fetched arrows with field points for $90US. It had never been shot before, and has all the tools, and a carrying case. I figure I paid for the arrows, and got the bow for free. The bow is great for it's age, super quiet, and tight groupings. I just need to get the sights dialed in. Ebay can be a great source for used bows, just don't buy the chinesium garbage.
Mine must be a fluke then. I bought a compound bow for £160 from ASD (archery supplies direct ) and its fine. It shoots strait and is dead in the hand too. I've added a half decent sight and a very good drop away rest (NAP Apache), but I must admit your very right when it comes to arrows, cheap ones are just a waste of money.
What about taking advice from people like Steven Hann on budget bows or Armin Hirmer. They both coach, have or had retail businesses. I have bought several budget bows from traditional to compound.
Archery clubs here seldom have compound bows for beginners to try, because they're too much trouble to set up for everyone. And there was no way in hell I was going to drop $600-$700 on a Hoyt or Mathews when I wasn't even sure where I was headed in archery. And I sure as hell didn't know enough about archery to take any kind of gamble buying used gear. So I did my homework and got a $200 Chinese compound bow, plus a dozen inexpensive Chinese carbon arrows with nock pins + collars. I was fully aware it was the kind of gear that archery snobs would love to sneer at and look down on, but let's face it - who cares what brand-name snobs say because they're not sponsoring your gear. You're on your own mate, so there's no shame in buying cheap Chinese gear to suit your budget provided you did your homework and roughly knew what you're getting. In my case, that cheap $200 Chinese bow was enough to give me a great introductory experience into archery (because, since I owned it and it wasn't a rental, I was able to add bits and really set it up to suit me), let me work on on my basics, shooting form and consistency, grow my knowledge in compound bows... until I was ready to decide what's next (and really saved up for it).
I'm looking for a used Oneida Eagle..........I don't care if it's 30 years old, but it has to be in good shape and a fair price. ******* Live long and enjoy Archery *******
I am a beginner and my first bow is a win & win nano riser with cheap limbs... shooting bare bow... later will upgrade to better limbs... sights etc etc... I think it’s the cheaper way to go...
After knowing the diference of ebay metal riser for compound with recuve limbs adertised as a recurve bow 45lb an a few extra's(not of any quality) arrows fiberglass seriously over spined thick i thought it was good enough. But i got a southwest spiderXL 29lb limbs OMG secong lot of three arrows 9's all super tight group Sooo much more satisfying now. Shooting off shelf and gap aiming for now. Im a happy beginer now😊😊
Excellent video, i took your advice and so pleased i did, very happy with what i now have although it cost me more than i wanted to pay, i would have regreted buying any thing less.
That's why I started off with a Southwest Archery Spyder! NOT expensive by a long shot (which guaranteed is beyond my range) but not real cheap or a knockoff either
May confirm Diamond Infinite Edge is really good thing for start, though every one who buys compound need to understand that they will HAVE to buy rest (drop away better) as i haven't seen a stock rest that was not bringing some crap to aiming, on infinite edge the rest was macking an arrow "jump"(do not know how it is called on English) that made aiming sort of hard when arrow goes nuts from time to time spreading group all over target, so i changed it in less than two weeks
I know this vid is old but checking good brands then going to the pawn shop is a good way to get bows (will depend where you are) for cheap. I saw a $600 compound for $109. Anywho, back to the autoplay game
Just purchased my first bow today. Went with an SF Forged Plus Riser, SF Velocity Sight, and 24lb Axiom Limbs. SF Plunger and SF Axiom Long Rod. Aiming to not have to replace the Riser or Sight for quite a while.
I bought an SF Axiom+ light with 34lbs SF Limbs, a cartel sight and long rod and the plunger came with the riser, over time, I upgraded the plunger to a Shibuya, the sights to a Decut one I like, full stabilisers set by Kap Winstorm (It works) and the riser and limbs have been great as beginner level equipment, I'm now looking at upgrading after 18 months of this bow, to Win&Win, possibly the Winact VT or, if money allows, the Inno AXT. You should be good with that riser and sights for a good while :-)
Was just like "jesus christ bows are way too expensive to start in" but then you mentioned the some cheaper recurves thats a good option. Everyone talks about if you want to get into bows you have to spend half a grand up to 2k and then talking about all these attachments you have to buy and all that without saying about other bows or optional things. so might give it a try since not really looking for a compound atm even though they look amazing to use. Just would rather not spent hundreds to get into it yet
It cost me 300 dollars in total for the entry level bow with complete accessories like stabs, sights, arrows, finger guard, arm guard and plunger. I am planning to buy Olympic recurve in the future It may cause me 2 grand so I am saving up.
“I feel like some shootin and huntin” omg that’s hilarious men think that hunting is super masculine I’m literally fifteen and I just killed a deer last season. A lot of people around here do however have that southern accent as I’m from ky
I have a Oneida screaming Eagle bow which I love I didn’t buy it for ego I’m super open to advice I’m joining a club when they reopen in uk I just love Oneida design and smooth drew
the sight for the compound he eefered to is actually metal.its rubbish but its not plastic. the only problem with the 55lb asd camo compound bow is that the cables sometimes come away from the cableguard.thats it.iv shot 2ooo-3ooo arrows and had my grouping improved into all gold at 30yards within 6weeks. these bows are not as bad as he makes out but if you can save up u shud get something like a used hoyt.
Turtlescream I know this is an old post but I have to agree with you. I just got a bow very similar to the one he shows in this video. I got it from a large archery retailer here in the uk. It was on a clearance deal, so was less than half price. I took it to my local archery shop who reduced the draw weight and length for me, checked it over and supplied me with some good arrows. I am using a three finger glove with no sights and get very good groups at different ranges. I understand what nu sensi is saying but honesty this is not a bad bow. Today I went back to my sons recurve (that is in the price range recommended here) for a change and I much prefer my armex Olympian compound.
Got a used Bear Grizzly 55 lb draw 6 weeks ago and its the first real bow I've had. So i got me a few of those china arrows cause i knew i was going to be losing arrows. In the first 6 arrows i lost one. So far I'm down to just 4 arrows, but my target area is building up, and my skill is getting built up everyday i get out to practice. Got some more arrows coming from china need them to work on my focus, and my form. Better arrows will come in later.
The cheap blue fibreglass bow you have can't accept much in the way of accessories, but if your aim is to move on to traditional instinctive archery like English longbows, is that maybe not such a bad thing?
Hey Nu Sensei. There is always the option of getting a good used recurve. I actually picked up a classic Galaxie Pluto its 44lb at 28. It was 40$ most time ther around 80$ but they are a sespectable bow for hunting or target practice. Depending on length of course.
In defence of the compound bow in this vid. I know this is an old post but I have to disagree with you. I just got a bow very similar to the one you shows in this video. I got it from a large archery retailer here in the uk. It was on a clearance deal, so was less than half price. I took it to my local archery shop who reduced the draw weight and length for me, checked it over and supplied me with some good arrows. I am using a three finger glove with no sights and get very good groups at different ranges. I understand what nu sensi is saying but honesty this is not a bad bow. Today I went back to my sons recurve (that is in the price range recommended here) for a change and I much prefer my armex Olympian compound. The sights !!! Are crap though I never even bothered putting them on. I did fit a bow quiver though and it handles it really well. I do not have £400 to spend on a bow so I will just have to make do with this one. I will let you know how I get on next week when I start at the field archery club.
Bought some chinese bows for $90 each three years ago. The same bow is now $250 from the same shop. Are they now a decent bow but crap when I bought them? 🤔
Bear in mind the age of the video. At the time, only cheap fiberglass toy boys were in that $90 range. The rise of the Chinese imports is fairly recent.
that comment in 9:19 made me laugh. I live in different country, yet I could relate to it. for real, those kind of dudes are having the flashiest equipment with camo, or shiny look than those who used traditional recurve (it was recommended since it's widely available.) and no, they did not hit the target better. seems like ego and macho-ism is really a big food to chew no matter where you lived.
Only cheap thing you can get is arrows arrows are just bullets meant to be shot and destroyed get a couple high end arrows for when your much better and won't miss and shatter them
There is nothing wrong with shooting rabbit. You can feed yourself and your family and being able to provide seems more important than a hobby. I have a very bad back and made my own bow for exercise a few minutes a day. I use small targets and for some reason am very accurate. I like shooting a bow and arrow almost as much as shooting my guns. I am a big muscular guy and even with my back I like shooting something I made with a high draw weight. My friend hunts with a bow and we were talking about brands and price. I told him if a bow cost several hundred dollars I would rather just buy a gun. I will continue to make bows and learn better accuracy.
Most of your videos I do enjoy and agree (I'm not a professional archer, so I can't really contest any knowledge anyway). But this one happens to touch me pet peeve of "cheap is not okay" and "rich people diss perfectly good equipment as shit". While I respect your opinion, I thoroughly reject the notion that "only people with MUCHOS MONEYS can be archers". I know that's not what you think you're saying nor are those your exact words, but that IS, in fact, what you are saying. When you (or any other person out there) says "you need $xxx to start this hobby" or "don't buy that piece of equipment if it's under $xxx". These people are essentially saying "you're too poor for us, go fuck a tree, peasant." And I'm very much against it. For most poor people the choice is NOT between getting a $50 bow or saving up a little to get a $200 bow. No. The choice is between getting a $50 bow and *not getting anything and rejecting the whole idea from the start*. And here's where I call bullshit. It is way better to pick up that $50 bow if that's all you can afford and have fun with it and learn the correct forms and all. Then, IF the situation improves in the future, you can upgrade. If you didn't get that $50 bow in the first place, when the situation improves 10 or 15 years afterwards, you've completely forgotten that you wanted to shoot bows in the first place and then never pick them up again. This (not only with archery) has happened to me and people I know countless of times. It's the sole reason I can't play the piano, for example. (Because that $100 keyboard was "not good enough to buy". Tell you what? That $20 keyboard WAS ENOUGH and now my 6 and 10 year old daughters want to play the piano. That $20 keyboard was all it took.) So I say hogwash to any of you high and mighty types out here that think "you should this rich to enter our hobby". Listen people. That $40 hickory traditional/english longbow that they sell on ebay? Or that bow you can make yourself from a $5 piece of PVC pipe? (check out RUclips channels if that interests you, PVC bows are actually really good.) THESE ARE OKAY. You can learn with these. You can enjoy and have fun with these. But most importantly - you can keep the flame going with these.
Fair point. I myself loved archery at summer camp on (probably) $40 bows, and when my boys were young I got a $40 bow and me and the kids enjoy shooting it in the back yard. But that's just it, it is fun, but we are not learning how to shoot because the arrows go all over the place, only by luck on target. Fun? Heck yeah. But we aren't getting any better at it. 40 years after summer camp I am taking a class at a club and shooting on a real recurve. All of a sudden I have decent form, I am hitting bullseyes, and now I realize what I was missing. So, yes, the $40 bow kept the flame alive as you say. But you *do* need to shell out (or join a club) to actually hit targets beyond 10m. Which I think is his point.
Antti Vahtera the point he's making is that if youre honestly looking at at getting into archery not just a fast craving fulfilment, then you should get something that will allow you to spend more than 2weeks and grow with it. if you have $50 then just save up the rest and buy something that you can use. u don't have money? it sucks it happens but take the smart way and wait till you can afford it. hobbies are just that HOBBIES something you can do with yoUr spare resources, (time, money, etc.)
Long story short, don't buy from Walmart and even some sporting goods stores. Go to an archery shop preferably or someplace that knows what they're doing like Outdoor World, Bass pro shop, or Cabela's
I've heard that Mandarin Duck Recurve is OK with shoot with, but I don't have any experience with such! What would you recommend as a decent hunting ILF bow... about 45lb draw?
I got my start in archery using a Samick Sage with 25lb limbs, and taking lessons and coaching at a professional archery club. That was many months ago of regular shooting and now I'm pretty decent. I'm now considering the PSE Rolan Snake, not for my own use or growth, but maybe to allow my friends to try out who are unsure if they want to do it, or for guests at my house who want to try shooting a bow for the first time. So it would be a loaner if they want to accompany me. I would let them shoot my Sage, but I'm always concerned about the one person who fails to heed warning or accidentally dry fire or drop the bow before I can catch them. The snake is reviewed as respectable within its class in that it supposedly rewards proper technique, and is supposedly nearly indestructable. Should a $45 Rolan Snake atleast be worthy of serving in this purpose, or am I better off otherwise?
Hi, there's a sport store in my country who sells all kinds of sport gears, and archery is included. I thought of buying those cheap arrows they sell but I would like to know if there're any risks for the bow itself. Like a cheap arrow could make a "dry fire effect" if the energy is not well balanced ? And then damage the limbs a little ? I mean they look ok but we never know. I could send you a link to the website if you see this question. Nice vids, helped me a lot lately to choose my gear, thx.
Pretty much any of the entry to intermediate level Olympic recurve-style bow from well-known manufacturers will give you something that you can have a good time learning the sport on.
I have 400$ to spend on my first bow I'm 16, Average build compound or recurve and which one? I want to practice and be perfect yet have fun. I'm from Pakistan
Holy crap. You can buy an Edge 320 from Bass Pro Shop for $399.00/u.s.$. You can probably get it with release, 6 arrows, quiver, sight and set-up ready to hunt for less than $399.00. Last year, l bought an Edge SB-1, essentially the same bow for $399.00, complete RTH, release and arrows for $399.00. I was shooting right as soon as it arrives. I wore out the whisker biscuit rest and upgraded it with a QAD Hunter and bought a new single pin sight. But other than that it is original. I have shot quite a bit with it and no bullshit, I can consistently hit a 4" group at 30 measured yards on my home range. Hey, my wife of 31 years is Canadian and our 3 children have dual citizenship. I know a bit about Canada, actually, I might know more than my wife and she is a 35 year educator with a master's degree. Anyways, you guys are screwed over by your socialist government; that is why that bow costs $1,100.00 CAD. In 2006, the CAD was worth more than the U.S. dollar. Now it is worth 70 cents. Besides the poor CAD, the prices are crazy due to the taxes. Shit I could buy a pair of CCM hockey skates for about half the price I would pay in Canada where they are made. When I was in Victoria, I looked at getting a pair of Ultra Tacks and they wanted $575.00 USD, back in California, I bought the same skates for $275.00. Ask my wife, she knows north of the 49th, you guys are getting screwed. Hey here is a fun fact, the Queen of England owns 97 percent of ALL land in Canada. She holds absolute title to all that land. If she wanted to she could ...do anything.
The bow itself was $499, came with the peep and quiver, everything else I needed I actually ended up having to drive to the local cabelas to get a new sight and arrows as well as a case. You're totally right, there's no way it should have cost what it did, I am just thankful I didn't have to waste time taking some kind of course before being allowed to purchase one. So far I'm getting 1" groups sometimes at 10 yards. That's the longest distance I can shoot at home.
I've had Bows from 200$ to 1500$.....You can't compare the most expensive with the cheapest :))..... But then I've won nationals and most tournament with a 700$ :)) Can say that an SF Optimo is a fine bow to shoot :P. If you want to learn to shoot a bow, you can't learn with a spoon :))....you need a bow :P. But then SF Optimo or Samick Polaris were less than 100$ :P....Just saying......I always said that if a bow doesn't come with waffles and some drinks, why is the price twice than the cheapest one on the market?.... Oh yeah, kits are silly....
So I have a 64" 35#@28 fiberglass long bow that I've been using for 10 years. I use it for hunting and target shooting but I would like to get a long bow to use for both and I can't decide on ether the bear 64" asuble or the martin Savanah. Which would you recommend? Ps. Really helpful vids by the way, I appreciate them.
Hello, as a newbie I have been looking at a package deal. I have been looking at £400.00 as a complete kit. And as such I have been seriously looking at the Samick Avante from a well known Archery on line shop. I do like traditional archery but I am thoughtful of modern sports bows and there functionality. I know I’m late in commenting on your video but I would appreciate any replies regarding this subject. Thanks.
Pearson Cougar 7050 62" AMO 40# @ 28" , What type of string silencers would you suggest. I have been encouraged to purchase carbon 500 spline arrows with 125grain tips, but what length would you suggest.
I don't have a recommendation for string silencers (we don't use them in target recurve). For arrows, the rule of thumb is to buy arrows at least an inch longer than your draw length.
I'm curious, and i'm sorry for commenting on such an old video, what is a bow that you'd recommend for starting if a person wants to get into it? My wife expressed that she's always wanted to do archery. and I used to do compound bow. I'd like to do re curve with her, but would like to start with an alloy bow (not wood). Do you have a suggestion?
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For beginners I highly suggest buying used bow and name brand value arrows. Bows that cost much more than your budget can be had in great shape for great prices used as people upgrade to the newest model out. This gives you a very nice bow to learn with. Stick with brand names, I can't stress that enough. It's not paying for the name, it's buying the experience in design and build.
Maintenance and support is also a factor. More people are familiar with the more common manufacturers and models, as they are usually quite modular. Coaches and other archer are more likely to be able to help you get your equipment in order, and archery stores will have an easier time tuning your bow and ordering replacement parts if needed.
So dang true, and speaking from experience. Bought a $100 Amazon take down recurve bow at #30 draw weight and as I progressed to #35, #40 and now at #45 limbs and nicer accessories, the riser delaminated, forcing me to purchase an alloy riser that fit the same limbs. Wasted that $100 and was no bargain... Same with arrows. I bought 4 sets of crap carbon arrows before settling on Carbon Impact Ultrafasts and Super Clubs and was amazed at how well they flew out of the bow.
I died when you said "and then they go for a beer and then they shoot Kangaroos." Hilarious!!!!!
This is actually a serious issue. There are numerous reports of native wildlife being (illegally) killed by compound shooters, and they have the telltale signs of cheap online purchases. This often raises the question of legal bow ownership in Australia.
+NUSensei Oh. I honestly thought you were joking. Well then I take back what I said.
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I instinctively yelled at “NOOOO!” in my hotel room when I heard Nusensei. I really hate animal abuse.
@@NUSensei fuckin bogans aye mate ;)
"Shop "cheap compound bow""
Google ads hitting out outta the park here... I'm sure this $53 compound they are showing me is great.
google4d "beginner" instead and got a result suggesting the diamond edge something. On sale right now for 349.99 in Cabelas. Dunno if it's good or not.
@@ofboriken The Diamond Infinite Edge and Diamond SB-1 are excellent entry level compound bows (Diamond is Bowtech's brand). PSE and Bear also make good compounds at similar price point. It's the step below this tier where things get hairy; anonymous brand knockoffs, you get maybe even less than you pay for and maybe even something mechanically unsafe.
30 Years ago, my archery course in collage used fiberglass bows. Before that I learned to use a fiberglass bow in the boy scouts. I have a 30lbs fiberglass bow that I love to shoot. They are what the are and they are not hunting bows or target bows. It is a different sport. Love your channel.
+Henry Johnston If you want to accept the limitations imposed by a fiberglass bow, then they are fine. Too little bow is a problem, too much bow is a problem as well.
Someone at my school is one of those people who try to impress their mates with their $100 eBay compound bow and he doesn't even know a thing about them. Don't get me wrong I'm a recurve shooter so I'm no expert but I asked him what the let off was and he said it didn't have any. Kill me now
I think some of these "metal risers with wheels on the end" that he's talking about really do have zero let-off.
The NASP Genesis compound bow has no let-off. But I doubt your schoolmate has a clue.
Some compound do not have let off those with wheel instead of cam for example
I would always recommed to start at a club if you have the option. They often have equiptment you can borrow and they will teach you basic form. I myself used the "weak and soft bows" of the club for six months before I bought my first bow as you might not even know what you want when you start out.
Since I've been doing archery a lot lately friends and family have been looking to me for advice, so Nu Sensei's video's have been very helpful. One thing I've come to recommend is looking to traditional archery for those on a budget. A good takedown wooden recurve can be had for $100-130 in the US. A bow like that can provide everything one needs to learn and to grow as an archer, without the expense of compound bows and all of their associated gadgets. Though certainly used bows are a good option too, it does limit your options to what's available, and what's available might not be the right fit.
Sometimes warning people away from cheap bows can seem to new archers like snobbery against people with a limited budget (and archery snobbery does exist), but as pointed out in this video, there are plenty of affordable recurves for not that much more than the bottom of the barrel bows, and the takedown design makes for a much better value for your money since you can buy just one bow and upgrade the limbs as needed.
The last bit about arrows was recognizable, remember when i was just beginning I bought some fiberglass arrows with vanes on a bow without a shelf.... All seems so obvious in hindsight, but seemed logical at the time. Hopefully this video will keep people from wasting money, keep up the good work!
I totally agree, but i have a cheap bow. lol
me too :)
In Germany you would just rent a bow to use until you know you like archery. Just looked up one of the more expensive offers - it's like 27.5€ (that's 44.42 $AU) a month for a Diamond Bowtech Infinite Edge Pro - but you can start as low as €10 for a simple but good Compound, Longbow or Recurve. Many people keep using a rented bow for the first one or two years until they feel confident picking their first own bow. In fact that's how I got into archery - I rented a Hoyt Tenacity and fell madly in love with it, so I bought it as "used item" (since I already used it) and got it for so much less that the difference in price almost made up for the rent I paid before =)
Come on mate, tell it like it is. Don't hold back.
"They're both crap, you're pissing money into....." Love it. Cheap crap is cheap crap. Not worth bothering with.
The bow i have now costs around 140$ and i really like it. It has an aluminium riser and fiberglass limbs. It has attachment points for stabilisers and plungers and sights. Something like this is what i would recommend to a new archer. If anyone here is Swedish and is looking for a great beginner bow, take a look at the Scorpion recurve from fondprodukter (Swedish company) it has points for attachments if you want to upgrade it later and you can get new limbs later.
and my black hunter was 110.00, sweet shooting bow, longbowt/d
When I first got into archery, I purchased an Amazon compound bow for around $150.00. Almost immediately, I decided I really enjoyed the sport and purchased a Diamond. Now I have an addiction and I look forward to a better bow and also getting a recurve and maybe a longbow.
Absolutely don't cheap out on a sight. My first one was a £20 thing that was functionally fine as a sight, but you had to retighten all the screws on it after every 3 or so shots and it would make a huge SLAM noise every time you fired as it flexed like a beast. You don't need to go for the £300+ pro quality ones, but I would say look in the £100 range for something that's not going to need constant maintenance and won't crack like a whip on every shot.
Yella Dart and a sight will go from bow to bow with you as you grow.
I bought an cheap Apex Hunting Warrior`X compound bow. I picked it up used for $100 with; 5 pin sight, stabilizer, whisper biscuit rest and bow bag included. All I needed to add was a D loop, release aid and arrows, it was a great buy for me and most of the accessories will be transferable to a later/better bow. I've been shooting with it for 4 months now and loving it dispute knowing it is old tech (slow cams). I've picked up a cheap recurve (Cartel Triple) too in the last month to try compare the different styles of shooting and I'm enjoying it too.
I'll probably get an Ignite or Infinite edge down the line as they are better bows and my local pro shop can support them better but if I had to get a $500 compound and $100 set of arrows to start I probably never would have started into archery at all.
Just because you start with cheap equipment doesn't mean it is useless or you cannot learn with it or move on to better gear later.
@NUSensei: Thanks for all the videos, I've learnt a lot from your channel over the last 4 months. There are no beginner courses available in my area (full waiting lists or no courses run at all), if not for people like you sharing their knowledge I would not have had such a great time learning.
+Adam Grima (Stormwolf) i have an old bow , indian archery timberland stalker 40-60 pound draw produced in 1984 . it's old and slow but still great to shoot . picked it up at a goodwill for $50.00 just had to get new accessories and arrows . you can get into archery even on the tightest budget .
I started recently and have been buying almost everything second hand. The gear/ brands I got cost a fraction of what they were new. My budget might allow more mid to high end stuff but it was still 40-50% discounted.
The two things about starting this way is one needs to do more research to have a better understanding of what to look for and why it's needed or if needed.
Otherwise what do you buy? Everything is discounted 20-50% on the second hand market. You have to know what you are looking for - either a brand, a model, a size or a poundage, etc. This will help you narrow the choices to something reasonable and manageable. Time reading and researching is not going to cost money and will help one make a better first choice.
The second point to keep to is it takes patience.
Getting everything NOW will only cost more money. It took me over a month making different purchases from different sellers to collect one set of limbs three weeks later one riser and two weeks after that, the stabilizers. All second hand. Some of the other things like the sight and plunger, etc. I got at a discount but they are new.
I will probably have to buy the KSL tab new and I will get books including KS Lee's book.
Considering the money I saved on just the bow, I think it's okay to get a new tab and forming that with my own hand. Time to keep practicing!
BTW, thank you NuSensei for your videos. I often watch them and even re-watch certain ones for fun or to refresh the information. Maybe someday I'll make a video about my starting experience.
Cheers.
I bought a PSE Nova 4 and a Hoyt MT sport zr200 with the cam and a half system for $60 total at a local auction. Inexpensive isn't always a bad thing, cheap usually is and knowing the difference can help you spot a diamond in the rough. I've now got a decent platform to assemble a bowfishing rig onto (the PSE) and an amazing how for hunting (the Hoyt). Something satisfying about bagging the big one with less then a $100 setup while there are others throwing money at the sport/hobby wondering why they aren't getting results. Practice and knowing your bow is key.
Too late, but I'll take extra good care of it. Money is so hard to come by, but I always love archery.
I just made my 1st pvc bow with approx 40 lb draw for my backyard carpet backstop for $12. I'm loving it! Shooting 100 grain with 350 spines at 31" inches. Still love your videos Nu San. P.S. I love Olympic team recurve.
How about the snake bow, seems like a lot of beginners use it.
I got into archery via a garage sale buying a 25# "supposed" recurve (sports flight) by barnett sportsflight for $2. I made my own 35# pvc bow and understood "cheap/frustration". I jumped up to a $80. toparchary 50# hunting takedown recurve. To much # to quick. After 30 shots I was shaking on aim..... Just bought a $80. 55# compound leader accessories (same as SAS seige, Hotka, Rambo, and half a dozen other names) and am thoughly enjoying shooting the 70% let off bow. Nusensei is right on the cheap sights as I have had to add a three pin hunting sight. Have also added a peep sight, limb savers, brush arrow rest, and string dampners, as well as a short stabilizer. I am shooting mossy oak carbons with 350 spines from Walmart although I added feathers instead of veins. I love Nusensai's video's but I still think that this $80 compound is well worth the price, and is a great step up to a hybrid compound bow which looks like my recurve.
That blue bow you're holding at 3:28 is just like the one my in-laws got for my son a couple weeks ago. We took it to a range in a local park, and neither one of us could hit the target, or even the straw bales behind it, from 20 feet. The tail of the (cheap fiberglass) arrow would kick away from the bow as the fletching passed the shelf, and it would go off-course by about a foot for every 10 feet it traveled. I can't see how my son's going to get excited about archery with a bow this bad, and I can't see how I justify to my wife getting a better bow for him if he's not excited about archery.
A bow has to be matched up with arrows of the correct spine, or else it won't shoot accurately. I wouldn't trust any manufacturer that sells arrows with the bow as a complete package. For one, they have no clue as to the actual draw weight of the bow at your draw length. As NuSensei keenly noted, there is no such thing as a one-size-fits-all arrow. Even for a given bow, an arrow might perform well in the hands of one shooter and then that same arrow will perform terribly with the same bow in the hands of another shooter with a different draw length.
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Enjoy your videos and agree with you. Many times you can get a better quality bow from trade ins at your archery shop or even end of year closeouts. In 2004 I bought my bear trx32 for less than 300.00 set up to fit me with arrows and case and have seen no need to replace it as it is comparable with many new models and very accurate
Just bought my first hunting bow a couple days ago a diamond provider with the RAK package dealer threw in a half dozen free arrows too (good carbon ones at that)...paid about 487 US dollars and couldn't be happier.
Incredible video!! We are new to archery and were looking for some solid advice on purchasing equipment!
those fiber glass horse bow from ebay are pretty good
Exactly. And my first recurve before that was okay as well. 60 dollars. I say give it a go with whatever you can afford. If you're really interested in archery, you will save money for a better bow. If not, no expensive bow will change your mind.
Besides, Lars proved you can shoot great even with this "crap" bow
But this video is more angled towards Olympic style archery.
The only thing I wouldn't but from ebay or amazon is the 100-200$ laminated bows as they tend to have some crap quality control and you end up with gaps in the glue that leads to a failure, but I have a solid wood seer handle either a glass limb I paid 130ish dollars plus tax and shipping and it's great
@@chrisread6292 Yes, I've seen Armin's review of one them 😁 Unfortunately they are not great
@@gizmonomono I actually bought a top archery bow, I almost bought the same laminated bow he reviews but in 50lb, decided with a wood and glass bow instead from them instead 60lb at 32" have had no issues with it what so ever, seems to hold up fine excited for my imre bow though
Quality control with a bow that consists of laminates and glue vs just wood seers and handles and glass limbs is not that great, spending 100-200$ on a wood and glass bow is fine obviously you will pay for the quality in going a bit more but if you order from a different country you can find cheap options while spending under 200$ on laminated bow I would not recommend, I spent probably 160$ cad on a bow from amazon but my bow from imre is only 180$ maybe 200 with shipping
i have a $150 folding survival longbow and it's great.
My first bow was a Ben Pearson jetbow. I didn't spend a dime on it because I simply found that thing in the garage hanging on a nail with a few fiberglass and aluminum arrows I had simply found on the property with vains I took up the hobby. Shot that thing everyday for months then I realized I wanted to actually progress so I spent $300 on a diamond razor edge. I still have that bow and shot it till I broke all the arrows I bought for it this year but 7 years is pretty good to not break or loose an arrow so I can't complain much. About a year ago someone gave me an old Bear whitetail hunter. From what I understand it's more or less the bow that put compund bows in the mainstream. It's like someone took a recurve and cut the ends off the limbs to put wheels on it then they more wheels on it for cables. For me it works for shooting at a Target but I've always got better options
My brother mentioned the same thing to me not to buy cheap bows ie. recurve, but he understand in some circumstances why I done it, but I’ve just order something slightly better.
Black sheep recurve is so so but advoid buying it unless your on a tight budget
For someone new like me, sometimes it's hard to tell whats crap and whats good. My compound hunting bow was a package with three pin sight, whisker biscuit arrow rest, and a quiver. $350 U.S. dollars. Seems to be doing the job, although I did end up getting a better sight, a drop away rest, and a nicer stabilizer. lol
Just buy good recurve which is also pretty and even if you stop shooting, you can still use it as piece of ''furniture'' :) . Also it will last you a lifetime if properly stored.
Is why I bought a Samick sage elite which is actually a Galaxy sage elite as of 2020.. for 150 dollars I love my purchase. When it comes to compound bows your hit it on the head... I didn't want to spend 200 plus dollars on a cheap compound or 400 plus on a good quality compound.. recurve is the best place to start if your on a budget and like you said 150 or 200 gets you a good bow even 135 bucks since the samick sage starts at that price down to 120.
Just scored an old Golden Eagle compound bow with 18 Easton xx75 2216 feather fetched arrows with field points for $90US. It had never been shot before, and has all the tools, and a carrying case. I figure I paid for the arrows, and got the bow for free. The bow is great for it's age, super quiet, and tight groupings. I just need to get the sights dialed in. Ebay can be a great source for used bows, just don't buy the chinesium garbage.
I bought a cheap junxing takedown recurve bow, and I enjoy it. It's not anything special but it's good enough.
Mine must be a fluke then. I bought a compound bow for £160 from ASD (archery supplies direct ) and its fine. It shoots strait and is dead in the hand too. I've added a half decent sight and a very good drop away rest (NAP Apache), but I must admit your very right when it comes to arrows, cheap ones are just a waste of money.
What about taking advice from people like Steven Hann on budget bows or Armin Hirmer. They both coach, have or had retail businesses.
I have bought several budget bows from traditional to compound.
Just bought myself a recurve bow. SF Forged with premium limbs. Can't wait to get to the club tomorrow to test it out. :)
Archery clubs here seldom have compound bows for beginners to try, because they're too much trouble to set up for everyone. And there was no way in hell I was going to drop $600-$700 on a Hoyt or Mathews when I wasn't even sure where I was headed in archery. And I sure as hell didn't know enough about archery to take any kind of gamble buying used gear.
So I did my homework and got a $200 Chinese compound bow, plus a dozen inexpensive Chinese carbon arrows with nock pins + collars. I was fully aware it was the kind of gear that archery snobs would love to sneer at and look down on, but let's face it - who cares what brand-name snobs say because they're not sponsoring your gear. You're on your own mate, so there's no shame in buying cheap Chinese gear to suit your budget provided you did your homework and roughly knew what you're getting.
In my case, that cheap $200 Chinese bow was enough to give me a great introductory experience into archery (because, since I owned it and it wasn't a rental, I was able to add bits and really set it up to suit me), let me work on on my basics, shooting form and consistency, grow my knowledge in compound bows... until I was ready to decide what's next (and really saved up for it).
I'm looking for a used Oneida Eagle..........I don't care if it's 30 years old, but it has to be in good shape and a fair price.
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I am a beginner and my first bow is a win & win nano riser with cheap limbs... shooting bare bow... later will upgrade to better limbs... sights etc etc... I think it’s the cheaper way to go...
After knowing the diference of ebay metal riser for compound with recuve limbs adertised as a recurve bow 45lb an a few extra's(not of any quality) arrows fiberglass seriously over spined thick i thought it was good enough. But i got a southwest spiderXL 29lb limbs OMG secong lot of three arrows 9's all super tight group Sooo much more satisfying now. Shooting off shelf and gap aiming for now. Im a happy beginer now😊😊
I love being around people who are better than me because they can teach me to get better! Sorry for potato english
Excellent video, i took your advice and so pleased i did, very happy with what i now have although it cost me more than i wanted to pay, i would have regreted buying any thing less.
That's why I started off with a Southwest Archery Spyder! NOT expensive by a long shot (which guaranteed is beyond my range) but not real cheap or a knockoff either
May confirm Diamond Infinite Edge is really good thing for start, though every one who buys compound need to understand that they will HAVE to buy rest (drop away better) as i haven't seen a stock rest that was not bringing some crap to aiming, on infinite edge the rest was macking an arrow "jump"(do not know how it is called on English) that made aiming sort of hard when arrow goes nuts from time to time spreading group all over target, so i changed it in less than two weeks
I know this vid is old but checking good brands then going to the pawn shop is a good way to get bows (will depend where you are) for cheap. I saw a $600 compound for $109.
Anywho, back to the autoplay game
LMAO!
Sensei, you are great, man!
Hilarious!
Learning a lot from you brother.
couldn't agree more with this video, as with most of your stuff..spot on
Just purchased my first bow today. Went with an SF Forged Plus Riser, SF Velocity Sight, and 24lb Axiom Limbs. SF Plunger and SF Axiom Long Rod. Aiming to not have to replace the Riser or Sight for quite a while.
I bought an SF Axiom+ light with 34lbs SF Limbs, a cartel sight and long rod and the plunger came with the riser, over time, I upgraded the plunger to a Shibuya, the sights to a Decut one I like, full stabilisers set by Kap Winstorm (It works) and the riser and limbs have been great as beginner level equipment, I'm now looking at upgrading after 18 months of this bow, to Win&Win, possibly the Winact VT or, if money allows, the Inno AXT. You should be good with that riser and sights for a good while :-)
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Oh! C-mon, Snakes are fine. I restring them immediately after delivery but other than that they "feel like a real bow".
Snakes are actually decent bows. They're still plain fiberglass and a very simplified bow, but I'd recommend them for anyone who wants to get a taste.
Was just like "jesus christ bows are way too expensive to start in"
but then you mentioned the some cheaper recurves thats a good option. Everyone talks about if you want to get into bows you have to spend half a grand up to 2k and then talking about all these attachments you have to buy and all that without saying about other bows or optional things. so might give it a try since not really looking for a compound atm even though they look amazing to use. Just would rather not spent hundreds to get into it yet
It cost me 300 dollars in total for the entry level bow with complete accessories like stabs, sights, arrows, finger guard, arm guard and plunger. I am planning to buy Olympic recurve in the future It may cause me 2 grand so I am saving up.
“I feel like some shootin and huntin” omg that’s hilarious men think that hunting is super masculine I’m literally fifteen and I just killed a deer last season. A lot of people around here do however have that southern accent as I’m from ky
"Looks and feel like real bow, because they are real bow". 🤣🤣🤣
Funny thing is I've got that exact wrist guard (12:27)...
I have a Oneida screaming Eagle bow which I love I didn’t buy it for ego I’m super open to advice I’m joining a club when they reopen in uk I just love Oneida design and smooth drew
the sight for the compound he eefered to is actually metal.its rubbish but its not plastic. the only problem with the 55lb asd camo compound bow is that the cables sometimes come away from the cableguard.thats it.iv shot 2ooo-3ooo arrows and had my grouping improved into all gold at 30yards within 6weeks. these bows are not as bad as he makes out but if you can save up u shud get something like a used hoyt.
Turtlescream I know this is an old post but I have to agree with you. I just got a bow very similar to the one he shows in this video. I got it from a large archery retailer here in the uk. It was on a clearance deal, so was less than half price. I took it to my local archery shop who reduced the draw weight and length for me, checked it over and supplied me with some good arrows. I am using a three finger glove with no sights and get very good groups at different ranges. I understand what nu sensi is saying but honesty this is not a bad bow. Today I went back to my sons recurve (that is in the price range recommended here) for a change and I much prefer my armex Olympian compound.
Got a used Bear Grizzly 55 lb draw 6 weeks ago and its the first real bow I've had. So i got me a few of those china arrows cause i knew i was going to be losing arrows. In the first 6 arrows i lost one. So far I'm down to just 4 arrows, but my target area is building up, and my skill is getting built up everyday i get out to practice. Got some more arrows coming from china need them to work on my focus, and my form. Better arrows will come in later.
The cheap blue fibreglass bow you have can't accept much in the way of accessories, but if your aim is to move on to traditional instinctive archery like English longbows, is that maybe not such a bad thing?
Hey Nu Sensei. There is always the option of getting a good used recurve. I actually picked up a classic Galaxie Pluto its 44lb at 28. It was 40$ most time ther around 80$ but they are a sespectable bow for hunting or target practice. Depending on length of course.
In defence of the compound bow in this vid. I know this is an old post but I have to disagree with you. I just got a bow very similar to the one you shows in this video. I got it from a large archery retailer here in the uk. It was on a clearance deal, so was less than half price. I took it to my local archery shop who reduced the draw weight and length for me, checked it over and supplied me with some good arrows. I am using a three finger glove with no sights and get very good groups at different ranges. I understand what nu sensi is saying but honesty this is not a bad bow. Today I went back to my sons recurve (that is in the price range recommended here) for a change and I much prefer my armex Olympian compound. The sights !!! Are crap though I never even bothered putting them on. I did fit a bow quiver though and it handles it really well. I do not have £400 to spend on a bow so I will just have to make do with this one. I will let you know how I get on next week when I start at the field archery club.
Bought some chinese bows for $90 each three years ago. The same bow is now $250 from the same shop. Are they now a decent bow but crap when I bought them? 🤔
Bear in mind the age of the video. At the time, only cheap fiberglass toy boys were in that $90 range. The rise of the Chinese imports is fairly recent.
@@NUSensei Hadn't realised the age of the video, obviously your lifestyle is not stressful. 😊
that comment in 9:19 made me laugh. I live in different country, yet I could relate to it. for real, those kind of dudes are having the flashiest equipment with camo, or shiny look than those who used traditional recurve (it was recommended since it's widely available.) and no, they did not hit the target better. seems like ego and macho-ism is really a big food to chew no matter where you lived.
a bow is a bow its up to the shooter to decide where to put the arrow
Only cheap thing you can get is arrows arrows are just bullets meant to be shot and destroyed get a couple high end arrows for when your much better and won't miss and shatter them
There is nothing wrong with shooting rabbit. You can feed yourself and your family and being able to provide seems more important than a hobby. I have a very bad back and made my own bow for exercise a few minutes a day. I use small targets and for some reason am very accurate. I like shooting a bow and arrow almost as much as shooting my guns. I am a big muscular guy and even with my back I like shooting something I made with a high draw weight. My friend hunts with a bow and we were talking about brands and price. I told him if a bow cost several hundred dollars I would rather just buy a gun. I will continue to make bows and learn better accuracy.
Kid stop lying on the Internet, your comment is outstandingly cringy
@@bluefable3416 what? If your comment is about what I said, you are very cringy! Your comment makes no sense. BTW, I am not a kid, 58.
Most of your videos I do enjoy and agree (I'm not a professional archer, so I can't really contest any knowledge anyway). But this one happens to touch me pet peeve of "cheap is not okay" and "rich people diss perfectly good equipment as shit".
While I respect your opinion, I thoroughly reject the notion that "only people with MUCHOS MONEYS can be archers". I know that's not what you think you're saying nor are those your exact words, but that IS, in fact, what you are saying. When you (or any other person out there) says "you need $xxx to start this hobby" or "don't buy that piece of equipment if it's under $xxx". These people are essentially saying "you're too poor for us, go fuck a tree, peasant." And I'm very much against it.
For most poor people the choice is NOT between getting a $50 bow or saving up a little to get a $200 bow. No. The choice is between getting a $50 bow and *not getting anything and rejecting the whole idea from the start*. And here's where I call bullshit. It is way better to pick up that $50 bow if that's all you can afford and have fun with it and learn the correct forms and all. Then, IF the situation improves in the future, you can upgrade. If you didn't get that $50 bow in the first place, when the situation improves 10 or 15 years afterwards, you've completely forgotten that you wanted to shoot bows in the first place and then never pick them up again.
This (not only with archery) has happened to me and people I know countless of times. It's the sole reason I can't play the piano, for example. (Because that $100 keyboard was "not good enough to buy". Tell you what? That $20 keyboard WAS ENOUGH and now my 6 and 10 year old daughters want to play the piano. That $20 keyboard was all it took.)
So I say hogwash to any of you high and mighty types out here that think "you should this rich to enter our hobby". Listen people. That $40 hickory traditional/english longbow that they sell on ebay? Or that bow you can make yourself from a $5 piece of PVC pipe? (check out RUclips channels if that interests you, PVC bows are actually really good.)
THESE ARE OKAY. You can learn with these. You can enjoy and have fun with these. But most importantly - you can keep the flame going with these.
+Antti Vahtera this it's just his opinion soo chill ^^
Fair point. I myself loved archery at summer camp on (probably) $40 bows, and when my boys were young I got a $40 bow and me and the kids enjoy shooting it in the back yard.
But that's just it, it is fun, but we are not learning how to shoot because the arrows go all over the place, only by luck on target. Fun? Heck yeah. But we aren't getting any better at it. 40 years after summer camp I am taking a class at a club and shooting on a real recurve. All of a sudden I have decent form, I am hitting bullseyes, and now I realize what I was missing.
So, yes, the $40 bow kept the flame alive as you say. But you *do* need to shell out (or join a club) to actually hit targets beyond 10m. Which I think is his point.
Antti Vahtera the point he's making is that if youre honestly looking at at getting into archery not just a fast craving fulfilment, then you should get something that will allow you to spend more than 2weeks and grow with it. if you have $50 then just save up the rest and buy something that you can use.
u don't have money? it sucks it happens but take the smart way and wait till you can afford it. hobbies are just that HOBBIES something you can do with yoUr spare resources, (time, money, etc.)
Snapped a £50 bow last night
Long story short, don't buy from Walmart and even some sporting goods stores. Go to an archery shop preferably or someplace that knows what they're doing like Outdoor World, Bass pro shop, or Cabela's
I've heard that Mandarin Duck Recurve is OK with shoot with, but I don't have any experience with such! What would you recommend as a decent hunting ILF bow... about 45lb draw?
So a used good bow is better than a cheap new bow.
with the compound he refered to, you do need to spend money straight away on upgrading the sight to a 5pin topoint.and rest to a whisker brush.
Compounds can be shot without sights and most target shooters dislike whisker biscuits. Cheap rests often perform just as good.
Cheap fiberglass "horsebows" are quite good for beginners. But you will want more if you like it 😁
I have a 70 dollar compound that I use for instinctive shooting. Is it a decent or cheap bow
Me whatching this at the archery shop where im spending all my money on a new bow
I got my start in archery using a Samick Sage with 25lb limbs, and taking lessons and coaching at a professional archery club. That was many months ago of regular shooting and now I'm pretty decent. I'm now considering the PSE Rolan Snake, not for my own use or growth, but maybe to allow my friends to try out who are unsure if they want to do it, or for guests at my house who want to try shooting a bow for the first time. So it would be a loaner if they want to accompany me. I would let them shoot my Sage, but I'm always concerned about the one person who fails to heed warning or accidentally dry fire or drop the bow before I can catch them. The snake is reviewed as respectable within its class in that it supposedly rewards proper technique, and is supposedly nearly indestructable. Should a $45 Rolan Snake atleast be worthy of serving in this purpose, or am I better off otherwise?
Hi, there's a sport store in my country who sells all kinds of sport gears, and archery is included. I thought of buying those cheap arrows they sell but I would like to know if there're any risks for the bow itself. Like a cheap arrow could make a "dry fire effect" if the energy is not well balanced ? And then damage the limbs a little ? I mean they look ok but we never know. I could send you a link to the website if you see this question.
Nice vids, helped me a lot lately to choose my gear, thx.
I have an sf forged plus and I love it its amazing!!
Pretty much any of the entry to intermediate level Olympic recurve-style bow from well-known manufacturers will give you something that you can have a good time learning the sport on.
very useful tips, thanks
I just bought a Samick Discovery to start archery with :O Haven't shot it yet tho xD Still arranging for a correct target at my backyard.
I have 400$ to spend on my first bow
I'm 16, Average build
compound or recurve and which one?
I want to practice and be perfect yet have fun.
I'm from Pakistan
I just got my first compound bow, went with a Diamond Edge 320, granted I'm in Canada, but it took me $1100 just to get the bare basics going.
Holy crap. You can buy an Edge 320 from Bass Pro Shop for $399.00/u.s.$. You can probably get it with release, 6 arrows, quiver, sight and set-up ready to hunt for less than $399.00. Last year, l bought an Edge SB-1, essentially the same bow for $399.00, complete RTH, release and arrows for $399.00. I was shooting right as soon as it arrives. I wore out the whisker biscuit rest and upgraded it with a QAD Hunter and bought a new single pin sight. But other than that it is original. I have shot quite a bit with it and no bullshit, I can consistently hit a 4" group at 30 measured yards on my home range.
Hey, my wife of 31 years is Canadian and our 3 children have dual citizenship. I know a bit about Canada, actually, I might know more than my wife and she is a 35 year educator with a master's degree.
Anyways, you guys are screwed over by your socialist government; that is why that bow costs $1,100.00 CAD. In 2006, the CAD was worth more than the U.S. dollar. Now it is worth 70 cents. Besides the poor CAD, the prices are crazy due to the taxes. Shit I could buy a pair of CCM hockey skates for about half the price I would pay in Canada where they are made. When I was in Victoria, I looked at getting a pair of Ultra Tacks and they wanted $575.00 USD, back in California, I bought the same skates for $275.00.
Ask my wife, she knows north of the 49th, you guys are getting screwed.
Hey here is a fun fact, the Queen of England owns 97 percent of ALL land in Canada. She holds absolute title to all that land. If she wanted to she could ...do anything.
The bow itself was $499, came with the peep and quiver, everything else I needed I actually ended up having to drive to the local cabelas to get a new sight and arrows as well as a case.
You're totally right, there's no way it should have cost what it did, I am just thankful I didn't have to waste time taking some kind of course before being allowed to purchase one.
So far I'm getting 1" groups sometimes at 10 yards. That's the longest distance I can shoot at home.
Only if i have seen this sooner!
Instead of a cheap ebay trash compound bow you are better off getting a relatively inexpensive yet quite well made fibreglass bow from eg Alibow
I've had Bows from 200$ to 1500$.....You can't compare the most expensive with the cheapest :)).....
But then I've won nationals and most tournament with a 700$ :))
Can say that an SF Optimo is a fine bow to shoot :P.
If you want to learn to shoot a bow, you can't learn with a spoon :))....you need a bow :P.
But then SF Optimo or Samick Polaris were less than 100$ :P....Just saying......I always said that if a bow doesn't come with waffles and some drinks, why is the price twice than the cheapest one on the market?....
Oh yeah, kits are silly....
I mean,i only spent 130 on my southwest Spyder
is a Bear Archery Cruzer RTH (Ready To Hunt) Compound Bow Package
a cheap bow?
Bear is a reputable manufacturer.
what about junxing M-120 compound bow, are you considering that as a crap bow?
So I have a 64" 35#@28 fiberglass long bow that I've been using for 10 years. I use it for hunting and target shooting but I would like to get a long bow to use for both and I can't decide on ether the bear 64" asuble or the martin Savanah. Which would you recommend? Ps. Really helpful vids by the way, I appreciate them.
Are the compound bow and arrows at Cabela's worth it
Im new to archery. I bought a samick sage off of your advice at 35 pounds. I also got those carbon express arrows 31.5" 350 spine is that any good?
I know people like you was talking about . l shoot a Mathews halon 6 and I got
htr nocam to .
Hello, as a newbie I have been looking at a package deal.
I have been looking at £400.00 as a complete kit. And as such I have been seriously looking at the Samick Avante from a well known Archery on line shop.
I do like traditional archery but I am thoughtful of modern sports bows and there functionality.
I know I’m late in commenting on your video but I would appreciate any replies regarding this subject.
Thanks.
Only time I'd use cheap kit is if I found it lying around
Pearson Cougar 7050 62" AMO 40# @ 28" , What type of string silencers would you suggest. I have been encouraged to purchase carbon 500 spline arrows with 125grain tips, but what length would you suggest.
I don't have a recommendation for string silencers (we don't use them in target recurve). For arrows, the rule of thumb is to buy arrows at least an inch longer than your draw length.
but what if the target is 60 meters away
I'm curious, and i'm sorry for commenting on such an old video, what is a bow that you'd recommend for starting if a person wants to get into it? My wife expressed that she's always wanted to do archery. and I used to do compound bow. I'd like to do re curve with her, but would like to start with an alloy bow (not wood). Do you have a suggestion?