I love how you can see their strengths and weaknesses in both matches. Ratio is an ST character, meaning he is not very good against the trio since they have linked HP. He also suffer from lack of debuffs in second match probably because the trio can self-inflict their own debuff after break. However, he is strong against most solo bosses. Although he has 40% IMG res, Ratio's team flexibility allows him to have access to Moze, who contribute extra DPS against Aventurine and be a pseudo debuffer, allows him to 0 cycle Aventurine. Not only that, his team has high hit rate with Aventurine and Moze, allowing Robin to contribute DPS quite a lot. Acheron is extremely strong in both ST and AoE. But her ST requires setup and constant debuff application which Jiaoqiu already overcome. However, when it comes to team's DPS, despite the amplification from Jiaoqiu and speedy Gallagher, the lesser hit rate from Acheron's team makes Robin's DPS worse. Also, the only one who actually deal damage in her team is Acheron only. Robin and Jiaoqiu are just bonus damage that doesn't contribute much unless they have higher Eidolons (E1 Robin and E2 Jiaoqiu). There is also enemies' setup. Faster enemies allows Acheron ult faster while slower enemies, mostly solo bosses, lower Acheron's ult frequency. This is why the trio is extremly weak against Acheron since two of them has a considerable speed and they can self-inflict debuff which allows her to deal the final hit more easily. Aventurine, on the other hand, only takes two turns each cycle and at phase two, he only takes one turn per cycle, which makes Acheron extremely hungry for energy
@@elysiaplushiewell, Fei is basically an upgraded version of Ratio. Currently she looks really strong because the end game is designed to highlight her pros. She'll be more likely to face the same problem as Ratio against hp linked enemies.
seriously though, your ratio clears are absolutely incredible - you've inspired me to start running him again, and he's actually much stronger than i remembered😅😅 anyways, great video as always. ratio's unbelievably good even in the scenarios where he shouldn't be, wow
It’s not even funny how badly I need aventurine… I have to use fu xuan for my fua team which isn’t the worst but aven makes moze & feixiao even more cracked
I am in the same spot but replacing Fu Xuan isn't gonna give me more value than going for E2 Feixiao(I'm at E1) so I don't think I have plans for the guy. I also already have two sustains so that's more the reason.
@@jellythewomanconsumer1590 that’s fair but idk having e2 fei is pretty great but aventurine as a sustain is almost invaluable in every way. He’s not just gonna buff ur fua team. I too have 2 limited sustains (3 but my Luocha got benched for huohuo) but to me new unit > eidolons any day esp as a semi dolphin player so that’s my reasoning lul. Maybe you can get lucky & snag both
yeah, let me put an extra two 5 stars in a team that already works fine just so the team becomes more expensive for no reason, and also probably gimp my other team without robin just so i can clear it 1 cycle faster, and sometimes not even that XD its even funnier that you can 0c ppe with 2 nihility(pela jq) hanabi effortlessly with no need to use robin at all
U either not using him right or ur Acheron sucks. I say this because in my case he changed my account and I can now clear most content in the game. Pure fiction, MoC and apocalyptic shadows easy clear. And sometimes all I need is him in a team. My Acheron is E0S1.
not for me..i dont regret pulling him at all..he makes my e0s0 Acheron hit like an e2 with sparkle..his energy regen is fast and debuff applied is really great..he is very comfy to use,i love that he is fire type and his weakness break efficiency is great.. i use him in dot team too with BS and Kafka
the only way to make a faster debuffer than JQ is to literally make them the equivalent of Acheron LC for the entire team. He debuffs on every single one of his turns and also every enemy turn, unless new debuffer is what I said or acts like 4-5 times per cycle theres rly no other way to make a faster stack generator.
@@Wawawawawa750 i think a unit that fuas three times per turn with a debuff under some easy condition, while also having debuff on skill, basic and ult would do the trick
@@Wawawawawa750well, against a single target, S1 kafka is just as fast if not faster than Jiaoqiu. Jiaoqiu stack mechanics kinda suffer against a pure st boss since he can only proc it once per action.
@@FireFly_best_girlwow, an honorable firefly fan, acknowledging Boothill instead of shitting on him. Honestly BH is too underrated for how busted he is. Fate of not being a popular or hyped character lol
I got robin but lost 5050 to fei, without JQ and just guinafen (Robin, Acheron, Gepard trend ans Guinafenn because i have no pela) is acheron decent? I know the stakcs are gonna be slow but I plan to go for LC, kinda need some advice since i have no second dps. I have clara but shes unreliable in Apoc
@@doritoscbun That's cool brother! Who did you use as a other debuffer ? I only have Guin E2 ATM as I do not have Pela but other people were telling me she was free but for some reason I still don't have her
@@zekeret No it doesn't show that. It shows that the FuA-Archetype currently is extremely strong because it's synergy is so strong you're effectively running 2 dps + 2 subdps characters. If you try the Hypercarry Ratio team that was used in the 2nd fight against Aventurine he doesn't come close to his performance in the full FuA team and lags far behind Acheron. Acheron on the other hand is her teams only source of damage. She does way better than Ratio in a Hypercarry setup.
@@zekeret My man pretending that Moze and Robin weren't hard carrying that fight. That's like putting Topaz' LC on Feixiao in an Acheron team and say it's an Acheron clear, not it's not, she's getting carried by the dmg of the other character.
Maybe i dont get the point of the video so please explain, why use 6 cost team when ruclips.net/video/btJJftWqnI0/видео.htmlsi=EA_R_Cd6W7Aitm8- 4 cost is possible without hit rng? No sustain needed
Simple reason is bcs that's sustainless. Neither of these showcases are trying to show them off sustainless, otherwise they'd both 0-cycle both bosses granted enough ingenuity
@@cornflakebutsilly yes please,i still dont see the point of the video. why would i run a sustain where i dont need it? ratio getting the 0 cycle with 40 res while running a sustain is quite impressive, though that still does not make any sense like, how is this a comparission, what are we even comparing? ratio needs a sustain to clear so we just gave acheron a sustain too?
@@doritoscbun first of all i'm not interested in sustainless runs unless its a break damage dealer, i don't think they are practical and 99% of the community plays with a sustain. They are also not worth the effort of resetting 100 times. second, i'm not a costchester. third, i use very normal builds with uniform crit substat distribution for all of my dps (24 subs) to appeal to more people. That video you had sent had an Acheron with 40 more CV than what i'm running in the video, that team wouldn't 0 cycle with my standards of investment.
@@Sansrival1113 And? The guy I'm talking to is racist (and albeist) too lmfao- Calling people the n-word who disagrees with him. He just simply met his own match.
It's not a missplay, it's very intentional in fact. He needed the ult in order to break the puppets which is way more important than maintaing some stacks. Plus after breaking them he one-shot the 1st phase and even 0 cycled the whole thing.
What's the need for vulnerability before Acheron takes action? He uses his ultimate at 12:54 before Acheron does damage so idk what you're trying to say here...
@@cornflakebutsilly He means that JQ's stacks go to 0 if you don't have his ult up when the 2nd wave starts, whereas they normally stay at whatever they were at the end of the 1st wave.
@@OppaiSenpai5 oh ashen roast stacks, gotcha. She overkills anyway so its kinda useless to maintain stacks instead of using it to break them. Also, i delayed it after gallagher's turn to force QpQ into robin.
Acheron killed the boss in one rotation even with only 3 stacks, more stacks are unecessary and it's preferable to exploit the boss self vuln(50%) and 15% damage mechanic than starting wave 2 at 5 stacks. Doing the way cornflake did the final vuln was 15%+50%+25%=90%, entering wave 2 with JQ ult would have a final vuln of 35%+15% at Acheron's first wave 2 turn and for the vuln to happen it would be required for Jiaoqiu and Acheron to hit the left and right targets instead of hitting the middle one what would cause at least 80k damage loss with around 80k damage increase on Acheron ult, meaning, nothing would change at all.
Don't have moze? check out sleepy's e0s0 Ratio run with Tingyun & Robin ruclips.net/video/4fmLS2AvOX4/видео.html
Ratio showcase ❎
Moze showcase ✅
I love how you can see their strengths and weaknesses in both matches. Ratio is an ST character, meaning he is not very good against the trio since they have linked HP. He also suffer from lack of debuffs in second match probably because the trio can self-inflict their own debuff after break. However, he is strong against most solo bosses. Although he has 40% IMG res, Ratio's team flexibility allows him to have access to Moze, who contribute extra DPS against Aventurine and be a pseudo debuffer, allows him to 0 cycle Aventurine. Not only that, his team has high hit rate with Aventurine and Moze, allowing Robin to contribute DPS quite a lot.
Acheron is extremely strong in both ST and AoE. But her ST requires setup and constant debuff application which Jiaoqiu already overcome. However, when it comes to team's DPS, despite the amplification from Jiaoqiu and speedy Gallagher, the lesser hit rate from Acheron's team makes Robin's DPS worse. Also, the only one who actually deal damage in her team is Acheron only. Robin and Jiaoqiu are just bonus damage that doesn't contribute much unless they have higher Eidolons (E1 Robin and E2 Jiaoqiu). There is also enemies' setup. Faster enemies allows Acheron ult faster while slower enemies, mostly solo bosses, lower Acheron's ult frequency. This is why the trio is extremly weak against Acheron since two of them has a considerable speed and they can self-inflict debuff which allows her to deal the final hit more easily. Aventurine, on the other hand, only takes two turns each cycle and at phase two, he only takes one turn per cycle, which makes Acheron extremely hungry for energy
And then there's Feixiao who can do both...
@@elysiaplushiewell, Fei is basically an upgraded version of Ratio. Currently she looks really strong because the end game is designed to highlight her pros. She'll be more likely to face the same problem as Ratio against hp linked enemies.
@@danielak1666 not as much as ratio actually, she does perform quite well compared to some blast dps in 5 shared hp boss, which is concerning
@@elysiaplushiefirefly sucks
Aven also has 40% imaginary res...
seriously though, your ratio clears are absolutely incredible - you've inspired me to start running him again, and he's actually much stronger than i remembered😅😅
anyways, great video as always. ratio's unbelievably good even in the scenarios where he shouldn't be, wow
Wow ratio still going strong
My evil:Moze carried
Even more evil: Robin carried
the blue beetle boss theme is such a banger wtf
2 nihility vs knowledge
Basically AOE fights:acheron
ST:Ratio
but robin clears both at once front and back
Friendly reminder: Cornflake IS not Xolze, we are not cost chesting with this one.
It’s not even funny how badly I need aventurine… I have to use fu xuan for my fua team which isn’t the worst but aven makes moze & feixiao even more cracked
I am in the same spot but replacing Fu Xuan isn't gonna give me more value than going for E2 Feixiao(I'm at E1) so I don't think I have plans for the guy. I also already have two sustains so that's more the reason.
@@jellythewomanconsumer1590 that’s fair but idk having e2 fei is pretty great but aventurine as a sustain is almost invaluable in every way. He’s not just gonna buff ur fua team. I too have 2 limited sustains (3 but my Luocha got benched for huohuo) but to me new unit > eidolons any day esp as a semi dolphin player so that’s my reasoning lul. Maybe you can get lucky & snag both
BuT aChErOn’S BeSt TeAm Is WiTh 2 NiHiLiTy ☝️🤓
Yes she is, your comment make you look idiot 😂
What a surprise, all you comment just hating acheron 🚪👈🧠
yeah, let me put an extra two 5 stars in a team that already works fine just so the team becomes more expensive for no reason, and also probably gimp my other team without robin just so i can clear it 1 cycle faster, and sometimes not even that XD
its even funnier that you can 0c ppe with 2 nihility(pela jq) hanabi effortlessly with no need to use robin at all
I heard that this is her new bis team
cornflake you look extra pretty today ❤
ty ty (*^▽^*)
Babe wake up Cornflake just dropped 🔥❤
omg Robin and her 3 male-wives
Ewww
Regret pulling for Jiaoqiu, only used him with Acheron and she's not even the top anymore 😔
U either not using him right or ur Acheron sucks.
I say this because in my case he changed my account and I can now clear most content in the game. Pure fiction, MoC and apocalyptic shadows easy clear. And sometimes all I need is him in a team. My Acheron is E0S1.
not for me..i dont regret pulling him at all..he makes my e0s0 Acheron hit like an e2 with sparkle..his energy regen is fast and debuff applied is really great..he is very comfy to use,i love that he is fire type and his weakness break efficiency is great..
i use him in dot team too with BS and Kafka
You can use him in other teams aswell like dr ratio hyper carry. I also have jiaoqiu but never regretted pulling for him
Doctor is free and good so I will play a long game in investing on future support rather than meta DPS 👍
1:25 i love how aventurine matched the music when you were deciding what to play😂
Damn, Ratio clearing the Aoe boss in just 1 cycle is very impressive 👏
Honestly I can imagine hoyo making a st debuffer with high debuff frequency made for Acheron. As JQ mostly increases stack generation in aoe scenarios
the only way to make a faster debuffer than JQ is to literally make them the equivalent of Acheron LC for the entire team. He debuffs on every single one of his turns and also every enemy turn, unless new debuffer is what I said or acts like 4-5 times per cycle theres rly no other way to make a faster stack generator.
@@Wawawawawa750 i think a unit that fuas three times per turn with a debuff under some easy condition, while also having debuff on skill, basic and ult would do the trick
@@Wawawawawa750well, against a single target, S1 kafka is just as fast if not faster than Jiaoqiu. Jiaoqiu stack mechanics kinda suffer against a pure st boss since he can only proc it once per action.
@@BadieonBS E6 with Topaz and Ratio is really good for stack generation as some whales have done. It ain't got us F2Ps though
its acheronover?
Against aventurine 1 cycle clear is Acherover
Against the Puppets Its Achegoat
She was over since the release of boothill , he is the king of zero cycle
@@FireFly_best_girlwow, an honorable firefly fan, acknowledging Boothill instead of shitting on him. Honestly BH is too underrated for how busted he is. Fate of not being a popular or hyped character lol
@@Yor-Yor-YorAlso being more difficult to play as well
I like how you just reused the Ratio footage from the previous video. If it ain't broke don't fix it.
too tired to rerecord the same footage, don't have anything to improvise so yeah...
@@cornflakebutsilly its okay cornflake we love you
It's Acherover guys, time to glaze a new DPS or something idk 🔥🔥
Wait is that ratio run from an old video?
the run against aventurine is from my previous video yep
@@cornflakebutsilly understandable, even I'd be bored of filming same shit again and again
I got robin but lost 5050 to fei, without JQ and just guinafen (Robin, Acheron, Gepard trend ans Guinafenn because i have no pela) is acheron decent? I know the stakcs are gonna be slow but I plan to go for LC, kinda need some advice since i have no second dps. I have clara but shes unreliable in Apoc
She isn't worth it without Jiaoqiu, by the point jiaoqiu reruns she will already be Jingliu and DHIL level
im using her without jq. 1 cycle moc 300av as 40k pf. theres nothing to worry about. trend gepard is almost as good as jq when it comes to stacks.
@@doritoscbun That's cool brother! Who did you use as a other debuffer ? I only have Guin E2 ATM as I do not have Pela but other people were telling me she was free but for some reason I still don't have her
Why is that thumbnail so tuff
Who is the best with dr ratio is it jq e0 s1 or Moze e2 s0
probably about the same, moze will pull ahead with better relics or E6
Ok tnx @@cornflakebutsilly
@cornflakebutsilly i have robin e1 s1 dose thes make any defrent? For who i use
@@nogamenolife319 In that case I'll stick with JQ, your Robin will be dealing a lot more DMG
@@nogamenolife319 feel jiaoqiu will be better then
acheron only has fraudwen tier list comforting her large fanbase now ngl
bro its a single target boss stop coping
@@alecerosunicornis7661that st boss doesnt resist lightning yet... this vid shows the almighty t0 dps performs almost similar as t0.5 1.6 dps btw
@@zekeret No it doesn't show that. It shows that the FuA-Archetype currently is extremely strong because it's synergy is so strong you're effectively running 2 dps + 2 subdps characters.
If you try the Hypercarry Ratio team that was used in the 2nd fight against Aventurine he doesn't come close to his performance in the full FuA team and lags far behind Acheron.
Acheron on the other hand is her teams only source of damage. She does way better than Ratio in a Hypercarry setup.
@@zekeret My man pretending that Moze and Robin weren't hard carrying that fight. That's like putting Topaz' LC on Feixiao in an Acheron team and say it's an Acheron clear, not it's not, she's getting carried by the dmg of the other character.
@@sirsuntar8717they also linked hyper ratio 0c aven boss in comment
e1 robin or e0s1 robin?
E1 is generally better since you can use Bronya LC to maintain ultimate uptime and there is a chance to get E2 which basically her s1 effect
@@danielak1666 u know wha? I have e4 Bronya without her lc
Ok, but why did u run Tingyun with Ratio instead of Jiaoqiu
Maybe i dont get the point of the video so please explain, why use 6 cost team when ruclips.net/video/btJJftWqnI0/видео.htmlsi=EA_R_Cd6W7Aitm8- 4 cost is possible without hit rng? No sustain needed
Because it doesn't fit their current agenda 😂😂😂
Simple reason is bcs that's sustainless. Neither of these showcases are trying to show them off sustainless, otherwise they'd both 0-cycle both bosses granted enough ingenuity
Does that need an explanation? Both the teams are running a sustain here
@@cornflakebutsilly yes please,i still dont see the point of the video. why would i run a sustain where i dont need it? ratio getting the 0 cycle with 40 res while running a sustain is quite impressive, though that still does not make any sense like, how is this a comparission, what are we even comparing? ratio needs a sustain to clear so we just gave acheron a sustain too?
@@doritoscbun first of all
i'm not interested in sustainless runs unless its a break damage dealer, i don't think they are practical and 99% of the community plays with a sustain.
They are also not worth the effort of resetting 100 times.
second, i'm not a costchester.
third, i use very normal builds with uniform crit substat distribution for all of my dps (24 subs) to appeal to more people.
That video you had sent had an Acheron with 40 more CV than what i'm running in the video, that team wouldn't 0 cycle with my standards of investment.
robin carrying any crit dps is wild
remember kids, dont waste your jades on crit based units lmao
Stick to glazing Fireflop tubs
Oh, the Filthypino 🇵🇭 is here 💔
@@Farted-and-sharted tf? as a Filipino, I feel offended
Even if what OP's saying is misguided, that's no reason to be racist
@@Sansrival1113 And? The guy I'm talking to is racist (and albeist) too lmfao- Calling people the n-word who disagrees with him. He just simply met his own match.
Moze legit did more total dmg than Ratio
well no shit ratio is dealing 40% less damage because of the resistance
ourcheron mogs dr frautio without even having her passive maxed
dude, jq robin is the best team for acheron, better than two nihilities, that argument is invalid.
maxing her passive makes her worse because you have to drop robin 👈(ﾟヮﾟ👈)
@@cornflakebutsillyjust wait till hoyo released nihility sub dps with teamwide 100 av advance it will be over for everyone
@@akmal1264 copium but i highly doubt that since nihility seems to be catered to be debuffers on enemies instead of buffers which buffs allies instead
@@akmal1264so never. by that time another lightning dps will already mog acheron lol
no views 1 minute ago, bro fell off😢😢
Cringe comment
2:20 what would happen if Moze skill instead?
Nothing but why waste an SP both his NA and skill are ST
The game won't let Moze skill during Aventurine gamble it has an X mark on the skill icon.
12:36 huge misplay, not using jiaoqius ult means the new wave of enemies start off with 0 vulnerability
It's not a missplay, it's very intentional in fact. He needed the ult in order to break the puppets which is way more important than maintaing some stacks. Plus after breaking them he one-shot the 1st phase and even 0 cycled the whole thing.
What's the need for vulnerability before Acheron takes action?
He uses his ultimate at 12:54 before Acheron does damage so idk what you're trying to say here...
@@cornflakebutsilly He means that JQ's stacks go to 0 if you don't have his ult up when the 2nd wave starts, whereas they normally stay at whatever they were at the end of the 1st wave.
@@OppaiSenpai5 oh ashen roast stacks, gotcha. She overkills anyway so its kinda useless to maintain stacks instead of using it to break them.
Also, i delayed it after gallagher's turn to force QpQ into robin.
Acheron killed the boss in one rotation even with only 3 stacks, more stacks are unecessary and it's preferable to exploit the boss self vuln(50%) and 15% damage mechanic than starting wave 2 at 5 stacks. Doing the way cornflake did the final vuln was 15%+50%+25%=90%, entering wave 2 with JQ ult would have a final vuln of 35%+15% at Acheron's first wave 2 turn and for the vuln to happen it would be required for Jiaoqiu and Acheron to hit the left and right targets instead of hitting the middle one what would cause at least 80k damage loss with around 80k damage increase on Acheron ult, meaning, nothing would change at all.