This is E2 DHIL vs E0 Ratio but 2.0+ Version 🕊 BTW, costchesting is not my intention but Feixiao can do the same in like 3 or 4 cost if i use E1 Robin, so no cost debates 👋 p.s Acheron's team (Robin & Gallagher) was decided from my community poll
Feixiao is really interesting one, she is team player but also has very good nuke damage on her ult. So when she deals less damage hence her skill, her teammates cover for that aspect. Acheron deals most of her damage through ultimate so until her ultimate is up, you gotta have to wait and fill up her stacks, whereas fexiao filling her stacks also deals damage and by the time she has full stacks, the enemies are already half HP. I like how balanced they are.
I dont care whose stronger, the fact that end game content become tankier are thanks to new unit being stronger than older, and its really going fast in the recent patch and i hate them
i understand you completely, i like them as characters but it really annoys me how fast the powercreep happens in this game, practically forcing you to either hyperinvest in an old unit or pull for a new one in order to clear content 🙁
Even if Acheron is slightly worse at E0 it’s kinda the point because she’s the only character who uses nihility characters to their full strength allowing a player to stack Harmony on the second team.
Honestly Acheron really doesnt have a perfect team right now at E0 since she still needs 2 other nihility characters. Jiaqou was a great edition but the other nihility's are really lacking, and the sustain options are kind of imperfect too. Feixiao has pretty much a perfect team atm.
@@GoobieWoobie69 True, FUA team probably peaked with Feixiao, FUA was already on par with other top teams prior to Fei because they do a lot of actions and Robin making the whole team deal ~30-50k per action. Now they added Feixiao who added nuke option to the team and she can do it 2 times with each dealing up to 400k each not only that she also provides more actions ~3 per turn which is like ~100k damage total including Robin's damage. Even break meta which has been getting more and more units lately don't have this level of upgrade to the team.
Ahhh i would be one of u if i didnt lose my 50 50 to that old man from HI3RD(PS i love welt as a character but fuck i dont want his playable character in my account if only i won)
both are good, i think they are still on the same level. But FX is really the Hunt that should be, a strong character in single target. i will wait for my girl Firefly to get a dedicated support like FX and Acheron. RM is not a dedicated support for break team because damage buff is useless for super break, and HMC is not a limited character
tbf these are both st bosses, i thought the op will give us examples of one st boss and one blast/aoe boss like the choir or the next aoe boss. but sure fx is indeed stronger at st
@@cheesegrated7893I don't necessarily disagree, I'm just poking fun at the doomposters who kept acting like Feixiao was terrible and nowhere near Acheron/Firefly, when in reality she's just as good if not better than them
@@Xiao_Yin- i mean FF is balanced around HMC due to how absurd HMC's kit is so i would argue only RM will get replaced if there were to be a dedicated support for the next superbreak FF team.
The oment Fei released, all the Fei haters that doomposted her to oblivion in beta, suddenly do a 180 and now redirect it all to Acheron who for some apparent reason according to their logic, got "worse" somehow, and is now the worst unit in the game and any person that even remotely tries to damage their negative narrative about Acheron is called a "coper," a "crybaby" or a "delusional person. " 😊
Yeah this is why I don’t like calling these doomposters Acheron or Feixiao “mains”, they don’t care about the characters, they just wanna feel superior by trashing the “worse” character which is sad. Both characters are great and are fun to use
Is this what actually happened? It’s more like, people doomposting Feixiao and ignoring all beta showcases/guides showing she’s good. And then when she released, people who still think she’s mediocre are blatantly in denial and are being called out.
@@altiorapetamus2019 how so? Some bosses/modes benefit more from higher burst than more constant damage, Acheron aoe ult is also really convenient in some situations.
@@jordicastellaoteo6308 which boss and situation are we talking about? In my experience i am very often has to waste acheron ult to kill low hp enemy because her skill/team just dont do enough dmg. I find it harder to reach the dmg threshold on a nuke type character.
Brilliant. Comparing Acheron, which is essentially erudition, and shows itself worst in dealing damage to a single target, and Feixiao is a hunt. Simply brilliant. And the first comment is about the copium acheron, people, don’t listen to this clown. And I noticed that cornflake had already been caught doing something similar, to which he, of course, then replied that this was supposedly not a comparison, but that he simply showed how the characters go through the content. This direction of content is already beginning to alarm us. It’s as if he’s just making provocative videos with the goal of getting comments, rather than showing some kind of objectivity. Occasionally, truly useful comparisons slip through, but nothing more.
@@oyfum2638I mean if you want to do a 0 cycle, unless you are really over the dps needed for it (and whats the point then, you are ruining the fun part) it is going to take rng to do
@@oliveratom5957 it’s better to have more dps then you need so you CAN avoid rng. Feixiao at 5+ cost is more than enough dps to 0 cycle anything even with sustain. She can probably even 0 cycle Rappa’s shilling boss despite being at a heavy disadvantage.
This is a bit of a fair comparison enemy Wise since Aventurine is a SINGLE boss on a moc floor so its favor more too hunt but we can see that Acheron really is getting that powercrep soon
feixiao is getting powercrept as well soon as 3.0 drops. a "top meta dps" getting released few patches before the 2.x patches ends is not ideal just like what happened to jingliu
Fei stans, b4 trashing Acheron, be objective 🙂 They have the same cost (8 vs 8) Acheron has an advantage of weakness, while Fei has an advantage of the turbulence I’d say… approximately the same, in this vid only. They’re both good
I have both of them and although I was more excited about Feixiaos banner than Acherons banner when it first came out, I enjoy a lot more using Acheron, her playstyle is so simple compared to Feixiaos, full of FuAs, but I still prefer Acherons playstyle. But who do I prefer as a character? Feixiao no doubt. She is just too gorgeous.
I rlly hope that they release the debuffer Archetype sustain in the future, someone that complements his Archetype like Gallagher/Lingsha for Break and Aventurine for FUA, this two Archetypes performance are a lot worse if you don't use them, with shows how much impact this characters have in their archetypes. The debuff Archetype atm only have band-aid sustainers (you know this when you need to use a 4* gacha LC to make the team work well).
Yeah Feixiao already has bis and peak of her team, for Acheron two slots are open to be taken to truly work well with Acheron (also imagine if Hoyo made JQ actually equal to Robin/RM)
@@Badieon Funny how are you are in every Acheron vs Feixiao vid coping in the comment section xDD Every team has slots to be improved on and it WILL happen. They need to sell. Stop coping.
@@Aub4dehow could feixiao team be improved tbh? shes woth topaz (amazing for her cuz she gives stacks and fua vul) robin (more fua dmg, action advance, prob one of the best harmonies in general) and aventurine (fua sustain) meanwhile acheron has jiaoqiu (made for her so its okay) robin (not a debuffer) and gallagher (not a debuff sustainer) acherons team is her best atm but its not as perfect for her as feixiaos, since fua characters are more common than debuffers im not defending acheron i couldnt give less of a shit, but saying both teams can improve is bs
I already guessed that Acheron would get powercrept soon, looking at the powercreep pattern of HSR, and it will keep happening, to Fei and to a more busted dps after her. Of course it makes sense for Feixiao to be stronger than Acheron. I have Acheron and skipped Fei though. It's just funny seeing people fight when you are all victims of predatory gacha.
Feixiao mains will experiment the same in probably less than 2-3 months, dw. Acheron might become better in the future than Feixiao if they start releasing broken Nihilities that she can abuse as much as Feixiao can abuse Robin.
@@jordicastellaoteo6308 hmmm yes feixiao team may be complete but it is still absurdly strong. if anything i think it’s more of bc the next upcoming 2 phase bosses are aoe and linked hp (and the rumor of 3.x being more aoe focused but dunno whether this is true or not)
@@irsyadhnn2.6 moc enemies suck for feixiao. She can't 0 cycle it at e0s1, needs E2. Content will always develop and adjust so the T0 dps can be better than each other But it's true Acheron has more potential than Feixiao does. Feixiao's team is about as complete as it can be
@@unendingvoid yeah i do agree that acheron has more room to grow though this is the same case as other hypercarries too, i think. since we only have 1 dedicated ST buffer aka tingyun. i mean acheron’s second BiS support being robin is also telling how bad it is rn (ik shes super strong but the contribution is definitely not as much utilized as dual carries, esp fua)
@@cheesycake455 ya but it’s kinda misleading to be all like e2 vs e0! And it’s the same cost team. I do think fei xiao is in a better spot than Acheron rn but that’s mainly due to her team just being better not her as a character. Everyone on her team does good damage and abuses robin perfectly.
@@planetbefall4744 nobody is coping i literally said fei xiao is better right now 💀 all im saying is the video has 2 teams of the same cost. Can fei go lower? Yea but this video doesn’t do that
1 unit that will clear all modes and 1 which will only clear 2 thing with acheron is her single target is as high as a hunt but its aoe the guy with the most marks takes humt level of damage thats why hunt was dead before bootycheeks and fexaio dropped which is now able to do more single target than her but still not that big of a difference
@@vegitoblue6969 Acheron doesn't have synergy with sub dps characters that's her fault lol, if it's the team that does the heavylifting then why can't any follow-up other dps do the same?? I swear Acheron gooners have an avg iq of 10
@@vegitoblue6969 acheron feels terrible to play on pf without dotcheron or jq to the point my seele with robin was easily getting more points than her until i got jq
I already stop play this game but it still funny people still argument over unit .of course Feixiao gonna do better than Acheron here because it her patch .If you try to comparison should be next next patch because not build neither both unit .
Acheron doesn't have dedicated supports as feixiao, and eidolons has less impact than a dedicated support, so, is good to see that acheron, who isn't Even in her bis team,still does zero cycles
@@renflare2570 ig SW dosent exist anmore or non of harmony characters dosent exist anymore so is acheron such a dogshit character that she need 2 more character built just for her For u copers? 🤣
Thing is with Acheron, you either get people saying “oh, my E0S0 hits for (insert massive number)” which are usually impossibly high unless your supports are stupidly invested and we also don’t know what mode + what buffs + what enemy + what supports. Or you get the people who will bring in their dolphin investment Acheron (E2S1+) in an argument about E0S0 performance. Rarely does anyone look at her objectively and look at the data, because she probably is the character the entire community invested the most into and her being meta is justification enough for all that investment.
Just to start, I'm not an Acheron main or anything like that, but I don't know if I agree with this "never will be", Acheron's E0 team still have 2 slots that can be upgraded, the sustainer and the Pela slot. Feixiao and FF both have a sustainer "tailor-made" for them that helps with their necessities like breaks/constant attacks, do a considerable amount of dmg and apply debuffs that the team needs, playing with Feixiao with and without Aventurine as sustainer it's a big difference and the same can be said for FF with and without Gallagher/Lingsha, try change then for a Fu Xuan and you'll see a big difference in performance. But Acheron don't have this "perfect fit" sustainer not even a 4* like FF have. We can use Aventurine + Market but he's more like a band-aid, he's not made for her. Acheron at E0 only has Jiaoqiu who works perfectly well for her as 5*. So I think there is still room to grow with a sustainer slot focused on debuffs and a 5* debuffer stronger than SW.
@@mcbx3d ff and boothill don’t even have a good support yet. 68 percent damage boost of rm is wasted on both and boothill even Needs to run bronya who has 0 synergy with his kit except the action advance while Acheron got a whole ass character just for her. You still use the free tb on their team and rm ,both can get soo much better. Probably in 2.7 5 star tingyun will be released and she will be a super break support and that will boost both of their damage by a ton. So the support condition for ff and boothill is wayy worse than acheron who has jiaoqui silver wolf pela and dotcheron which are really good for her
@@srishtisharma3908 Bro... first of all I'm not talking about Boothill, he needs his own things. Second say that RM's kit it's bad for then just because they don't use the dmg% it's wild, the rest of her kit have all that they need except superbreak. She extends the time that the enemy stay broke, she it's sp positive, do the extra dmg when break, gives team wide spd, break effect, res red and break efficiency, this are all that SB teams need to make the superbreak do insane amount of dmg. They can powercreep her in the future for Break teams? yeah, but to say that a character that have all that the team needs it's bad for then it's a bad take.
This is E2 DHIL vs E0 Ratio but 2.0+ Version 🕊
BTW, costchesting is not my intention but Feixiao can do the same in like 3 or 4 cost if i use E1 Robin, so no cost debates 👋
p.s Acheron's team (Robin & Gallagher) was decided from my community poll
Except both have the same cost, while there was a cost diff in Dhil vs Ratio case
@@discreaminant there's a massive 20% res difference
@@discreaminant bro doesn't know what weaknesses are😢
@@_JoeVer bro doesn’t know what turbulence is
cornflake you look so pretty today ❤️
Feixiao is really interesting one, she is team player but also has very good nuke damage on her ult. So when she deals less damage hence her skill, her teammates cover for that aspect. Acheron deals most of her damage through ultimate so until her ultimate is up, you gotta have to wait and fill up her stacks, whereas fexiao filling her stacks also deals damage and by the time she has full stacks, the enemies are already half HP. I like how balanced they are.
I dont care whose stronger, the fact that end game content become tankier are thanks to new unit being stronger than older, and its really going fast in the recent patch and i hate them
Yeah I’m worried and I really like this game and have spent on it
i understand you completely, i like them as characters but it really annoys me how fast the powercreep happens in this game, practically forcing you to either hyperinvest in an old unit or pull for a new one in order to clear content 🙁
Even if Acheron is slightly worse at E0 it’s kinda the point because she’s the only character who uses nihility characters to their full strength allowing a player to stack Harmony on the second team.
this
Honestly Acheron really doesnt have a perfect team right now at E0 since she still needs 2 other nihility characters. Jiaqou was a great edition but the other nihility's are really lacking, and the sustain options are kind of imperfect too. Feixiao has pretty much a perfect team atm.
@@GoobieWoobie69 True, FUA team probably peaked with Feixiao, FUA was already on par with other top teams prior to Fei because they do a lot of actions and Robin making the whole team deal ~30-50k per action. Now they added Feixiao who added nuke option to the team and she can do it 2 times with each dealing up to 400k each not only that she also provides more actions ~3 per turn which is like ~100k damage total including Robin's damage. Even break meta which has been getting more and more units lately don't have this level of upgrade to the team.
Truly a Goatxiao moment
Conclusion, all dps characters are op till they aren't.
Watching the toxic stans fight each other while having both character is quite amusing
Ahhh i would be one of u if i didnt lose my 50 50 to that old man from HI3RD(PS i love welt as a character but fuck i dont want his playable character in my account if only i won)
@@JigmeSherabWangchukJigmeSherab
I'm going for Black Swan
It give me an Ice version of her instead 🫠🫠
same but i have none so im also in nobodys side 😎
@@literallyjiaoqiugives you e6 welt and forces you to use him
@@A.Singularitypls no 😭
I enjoy both characters, different fun play style, have both so not too bothered which is better.
Not surprising honestly, even Ratio can 0 cycle Aventurine for less cost (and w/o eidolons) than Acheron despite the 40% imaginary resistance.
Acheron gulped.
Firefly shuddered.
Jingliu found dead in a ditch.
“Are you ready for your DPS lessons?”
“Yes General Feixiao” they all said in unison.
feixiao is getting powercrept by 3.0 just like what happened with shitliu after penacony release
@@kyeopmuwda tbf Jingliu was extremely overrated and endgame content favored her hard for four patches
@@Badieonso long as she still clears moc without being 8 cycles she's still usable in my books
"But Feixiao is single target which means she is nowhere near as good as Acheron and if you think so you are coping!"
Oh the irony
both are good, i think they are still on the same level. But FX is really the Hunt that should be, a strong character in single target. i will wait for my girl Firefly to get a dedicated support like FX and Acheron. RM is not a dedicated support for break team because damage buff is useless for super break, and HMC is not a limited character
I mean acheron is 2x better in aoe, but feixiao is also 2x better in single target
tbf these are both st bosses, i thought the op will give us examples of one st boss and one blast/aoe boss like the choir or the next aoe boss. but sure fx is indeed stronger at st
@@cheesegrated7893I don't necessarily disagree, I'm just poking fun at the doomposters who kept acting like Feixiao was terrible and nowhere near Acheron/Firefly, when in reality she's just as good if not better than them
@@Xiao_Yin- i mean FF is balanced around HMC due to how absurd HMC's kit is so i would argue only RM will get replaced if there were to be a dedicated support for the next superbreak FF team.
The oment Fei released, all the Fei haters that doomposted her to oblivion in beta, suddenly do a 180 and now redirect it all to Acheron who for some apparent reason according to their logic, got "worse" somehow, and is now the worst unit in the game and any person that even remotely tries to damage their negative narrative about Acheron is called a "coper," a "crybaby" or a "delusional person. " 😊
Yeah this is why I don’t like calling these doomposters Acheron or Feixiao “mains”, they don’t care about the characters, they just wanna feel superior by trashing the “worse” character which is sad. Both characters are great and are fun to use
Is this what actually happened? It’s more like, people doomposting Feixiao and ignoring all beta showcases/guides showing she’s good. And then when she released, people who still think she’s mediocre are blatantly in denial and are being called out.
Don't worry Acheron main she will get lots of opportunity to shine again in the future.
The fact acheron st burst is a lot higher than fx is crazy.
@@kaseyatakahashi9753 it takes much longer to charge and she also does less overall damage without ult... so it's fair I guess
that just means acheron have worse dmg profile
@@altiorapetamus2019 how so? Some bosses/modes benefit more from higher burst than more constant damage, Acheron aoe ult is also really convenient in some situations.
@@jordicastellaoteo6308 which boss and situation are we talking about?
In my experience i am very often has to waste acheron ult to kill low hp enemy because her skill/team just dont do enough dmg. I find it harder to reach the dmg threshold on a nuke type character.
of course acheron's burst does more damage than fx, because dps fu xuan is a meme😅😅
I love Acheron
me too ( i think )
show them the power of our general
I love both Feixiao and Acheron.
feixiao is so cool i wish some of her fans werent so rude
Could you test hyper carry jade with lingsha when she's out? I'm just wondering how good it'd be since she's the first aoe sustainer we have
Brilliant. Comparing Acheron, which is essentially erudition, and shows itself worst in dealing damage to a single target, and Feixiao is a hunt. Simply brilliant. And the first comment is about the copium acheron, people, don’t listen to this clown. And I noticed that cornflake had already been caught doing something similar, to which he, of course, then replied that this was supposedly not a comparison, but that he simply showed how the characters go through the content. This direction of content is already beginning to alarm us. It’s as if he’s just making provocative videos with the goal of getting comments, rather than showing some kind of objectivity. Occasionally, truly useful comparisons slip through, but nothing more.
Coping acheron simper. Feixiao is better
Haters will say E0 Acheron would be able to 0 cycle as well
You literally can, but you need to go sustainless and pray for RNG
@@jordicastella8799 yes that’s the exact problem
@@jordicastellaoteo6308 well alright then, if it were me though, I’d rather not have to deal with aventurine rng.
@@oyfum2638I mean if you want to do a 0 cycle, unless you are really over the dps needed for it (and whats the point then, you are ruining the fun part) it is going to take rng to do
@@oliveratom5957 it’s better to have more dps then you need so you CAN avoid rng. Feixiao at 5+ cost is more than enough dps to 0 cycle anything even with sustain. She can probably even 0 cycle Rappa’s shilling boss despite being at a heavy disadvantage.
And people say Hunt characters are mind
QQ>>
This is a bit of a fair comparison enemy Wise since Aventurine is a SINGLE boss on a moc floor so its favor more too hunt but we can see that Acheron really is getting that powercrep soon
Every dps does that’s why I’m skipping feixiao I already have two teams for MOC so I’m investing in supports and waiting for the broken dps of 3.x
@@ChiDoke yeah you might as well get all the Harmon first and make the game revolve around them lol
Supports
I.e the next acheron
feixiao is getting powercrept as well soon as 3.0 drops. a "top meta dps" getting released few patches before the 2.x patches ends is not ideal just like what happened to jingliu
Fei stans, b4 trashing Acheron, be objective 🙂
They have the same cost (8 vs 8)
Acheron has an advantage of weakness, while Fei has an advantage of the turbulence
I’d say… approximately the same, in this vid only. They’re both good
Turbulence benefits both characters almost equally and is no way comparable to 20% damage loss from RES lol
@@planetbefall4744 well turbulence helps FuA lot more, I do agree Feixiao is better against Aventurine, Acheron is more of an AoE unit
Lol what kind of world u r living?
@@Yor-Yor-Yor she should go to pure fiction then
@@ajbrawlstars8844 in a world of Fei mains where I’m one of them
Ur point got cooked
Try harder next time 🙂
I have both of them and although I was more excited about Feixiaos banner than Acherons banner when it first came out, I enjoy a lot more using Acheron, her playstyle is so simple compared to Feixiaos, full of FuAs, but I still prefer Acherons playstyle. But who do I prefer as a character? Feixiao no doubt. She is just too gorgeous.
I hope Reca would be a good 4*
I rlly hope that they release the debuffer Archetype sustain in the future, someone that complements his Archetype like Gallagher/Lingsha for Break and Aventurine for FUA, this two Archetypes performance are a lot worse if you don't use them, with shows how much impact this characters have in their archetypes. The debuff Archetype atm only have band-aid sustainers (you know this when you need to use a 4* gacha LC to make the team work well).
Yeah Feixiao already has bis and peak of her team, for Acheron two slots are open to be taken to truly work well with Acheron (also imagine if Hoyo made JQ actually equal to Robin/RM)
@@Badieon Funny how are you are in every Acheron vs Feixiao vid coping in the comment section xDD
Every team has slots to be improved on and it WILL happen. They need to sell. Stop coping.
@@Aub4de imadequiteanameformyself
Also coping about what?
@@Aub4dehow could feixiao team be improved tbh? shes woth topaz (amazing for her cuz she gives stacks and fua vul) robin (more fua dmg, action advance, prob one of the best harmonies in general) and aventurine (fua sustain) meanwhile acheron has jiaoqiu (made for her so its okay) robin (not a debuffer) and gallagher (not a debuff sustainer)
acherons team is her best atm but its not as perfect for her as feixiaos, since fua characters are more common than debuffers
im not defending acheron i couldnt give less of a shit, but saying both teams can improve is bs
@@Badieonjq is the best for acheron, hes currently the only character in her team that is meant for her and he does it well
Feixiao: be proud, you are strong.
🤣Feixiao mains, enjoy now, because the power creep here is very fast, Feixiao's turn will come very soon
How about acheron e0s1 vs feixiao e0s1? Which one is better with the premium team?
I already guessed that Acheron would get powercrept soon, looking at the powercreep pattern of HSR, and it will keep happening, to Fei and to a more busted dps after her. Of course it makes sense for Feixiao to be stronger than Acheron.
I have Acheron and skipped Fei though. It's just funny seeing people fight when you are all victims of predatory gacha.
The amount of copium acheron mains in the comments is hilarious
Feixiao mains will experiment the same in probably less than 2-3 months, dw.
Acheron might become better in the future than Feixiao if they start releasing broken Nihilities that she can abuse as much as Feixiao can abuse Robin.
@@jordicastellaoteo6308 hmmm yes feixiao team may be complete but it is still absurdly strong. if anything i think it’s more of bc the next upcoming 2 phase bosses are aoe and linked hp (and the rumor of 3.x being more aoe focused but dunno whether this is true or not)
@@irsyadhnn2.6 moc enemies suck for feixiao. She can't 0 cycle it at e0s1, needs E2. Content will always develop and adjust so the T0 dps can be better than each other
But it's true Acheron has more potential than Feixiao does. Feixiao's team is about as complete as it can be
@@irsyadhnn i will also say that hi3rd and hsr are going to have a colab... and Kiana could perfectly be Nihility
@@unendingvoid yeah i do agree that acheron has more room to grow though this is the same case as other hypercarries too, i think. since we only have 1 dedicated ST buffer aka tingyun. i mean acheron’s second BiS support being robin is also telling how bad it is rn (ik shes super strong but the contribution is definitely not as much utilized as dual carries, esp fua)
sam's MOC being a OLD moc is so weird, HSR feels too fast sometimes (in a bad way)
Sam in F12 of new MoC when? (She has 2.6m HP now btw)
What's the problem tho? Didn't they both 0 cycle with an 8 cost team? Dunno why you lot are fighting so hard for
"peakcheron >> midxiao"
they said. just wait for new shared hp boss to carry aoe units atp.
Still 8cost vs 8cost. Anyway I like both chars 👍
yea but support investment lasts for a year longer compared to dps eidolons
@@cheesycake455 ya but it’s kinda misleading to be all like e2 vs e0! And it’s the same cost team. I do think fei xiao is in a better spot than Acheron rn but that’s mainly due to her team just being better not her as a character. Everyone on her team does good damage and abuses robin perfectly.
@@monbebehere1607what cope, that is the advantage of her kit, Acheron not utilising sub dps is her fault lol
8cost is just overkill for feixiao i did a 3cost 0cycle with feixiao e1 Robin moze and preservation march 7th without any rng and sustain issue
@@planetbefall4744 nobody is coping i literally said fei xiao is better right now 💀 all im saying is the video has 2 teams of the same cost. Can fei go lower? Yea but this video doesn’t do that
Noooooooooooo
Bbbbbbbhbut mmyyy acheron noooooooooo she is best dps nooooooo 9 actions 0 damage noooooo
both 0 cycled but acheron took less time irl so she wins 🎉🎉🎉
but shes e2 and the enemy has wind res🥺
Lmaoooo midcheron main
@@NorthernWind26 bro acheron only the main damage dealer meanwhile fua all of them becoming sub dps lmao yapping yapping
@@hungcaomanh6753and feixiao has e0s1 aventurine, they're all 8 cost
@@NorthernWind26midxiao womp womp
Love the gameplay, but is it just me or is the video footage weirdly saturated here?
is it my impression or did you ''inflated'' feixiao team whit 5* LC to make acheron look better?
1 unit that will clear all modes and 1 which will only clear 2 thing with acheron is her single target is as high as a hunt but its aoe the guy with the most marks takes humt level of damage thats why hunt was dead before bootycheeks and fexaio dropped which is now able to do more single target than her but still not that big of a difference
Bro HASN'T seen the feixiao 40k PF without lightcones on dps 💀
@@cheesycake455 its not her its her team she cant with a non limited character team acheron can
@@vegitoblue6969 Acheron doesn't have synergy with sub dps characters that's her fault lol,
if it's the team that does the heavylifting then why can't any follow-up other dps do the same?? I swear Acheron gooners have an avg iq of 10
Bro I think there's a huge dent in your brain
@@vegitoblue6969 acheron feels terrible to play on pf without dotcheron or jq to the point my seele with robin was easily getting more points than her until i got jq
I already stop play this game but it still funny people still argument over unit .of course Feixiao gonna do better than Acheron here because it her patch .If you try to comparison should be next next patch because not build neither both unit .
If you can turn off your brain using said character, then you know they're good 🗣️🗣️
I wonder, why do you choose to skill with Topaz + BA with FeiXiao whe you can do the opposite instead? BA with Topaz then skill with FeiXiao
Acheron hotter but I will try to get at least one of tjem
Acheron doesn't have dedicated supports as feixiao, and eidolons has less impact than a dedicated support, so, is good to see that acheron, who isn't Even in her bis team,still does zero cycles
@@gansoide7125 so acheron mains are still coping about not having dedicated support after jiaoqiu release icant
After so long acheron main waiting for jiaoqiu, he still not her dedicated support huh?
@@unraveledsoul2438i mean thats one And it did boost Acheron up But Thats only one part if Were going by E0S1 case
@@gansoide7125 to for me im fine with only having JQ as her BiS since in the future MoC will change and its gonna change
(those 2.6 MoC are no joke
@@renflare2570 ig SW dosent exist anmore or non of harmony characters dosent exist anymore so is acheron such a dogshit character that she need 2 more character built just for her For u copers? 🤣
with sparkle e0s0 cant do 0 cycle?
Midxiao
Midcheron overrated af.
As a non brain dead Acheron haver, i completely agree that feixiao is better in moc and acheron was never and will never be the best after ff release
Thing is with Acheron, you either get people saying “oh, my E0S0 hits for (insert massive number)” which are usually impossibly high unless your supports are stupidly invested and we also don’t know what mode + what buffs + what enemy + what supports.
Or you get the people who will bring in their dolphin investment Acheron (E2S1+) in an argument about E0S0 performance.
Rarely does anyone look at her objectively and look at the data, because she probably is the character the entire community invested the most into and her being meta is justification enough for all that investment.
Just to start, I'm not an Acheron main or anything like that, but I don't know if I agree with this "never will be", Acheron's E0 team still have 2 slots that can be upgraded, the sustainer and the Pela slot.
Feixiao and FF both have a sustainer "tailor-made" for them that helps with their necessities like breaks/constant attacks, do a considerable amount of dmg and apply debuffs that the team needs, playing with Feixiao with and without Aventurine as sustainer it's a big difference and the same can be said for FF with and without Gallagher/Lingsha, try change then for a Fu Xuan and you'll see a big difference in performance. But Acheron don't have this "perfect fit" sustainer not even a 4* like FF have. We can use Aventurine + Market but he's more like a band-aid, he's not made for her. Acheron at E0 only has Jiaoqiu who works perfectly well for her as 5*. So I think there is still room to grow with a sustainer slot focused on debuffs and a 5* debuffer stronger than SW.
@@mcbx3d ff and boothill don’t even have a good support yet. 68 percent damage boost of rm is wasted on both and boothill even Needs to run bronya who has 0 synergy with his kit except the action advance while Acheron got a whole ass character just for her. You still use the free tb on their team and rm ,both can get soo much better. Probably in 2.7 5 star tingyun will be released and she will be a super break support and that will boost both of their damage by a ton. So the support condition for ff and boothill is wayy worse than acheron who has jiaoqui silver wolf pela and dotcheron which are really good for her
@@mcbx3d Every slot can be upgraded for any character, which WILL happen for both Feixiao and Acheron. This is cope argument.
@@srishtisharma3908 Bro... first of all I'm not talking about Boothill, he needs his own things.
Second say that RM's kit it's bad for then just because they don't use the dmg% it's wild, the rest of her kit have all that they need except superbreak. She extends the time that the enemy stay broke, she it's sp positive, do the extra dmg when break, gives team wide spd, break effect, res red and break efficiency, this are all that SB teams need to make the superbreak do insane amount of dmg. They can powercreep her in the future for Break teams? yeah, but to say that a character that have all that the team needs it's bad for then it's a bad take.