I just love this movie. The costumes, the scenery. It may not be as epic as, say, Barry Lyndon, but the Duellists is one of the best period movies in my opinion.
Irsan I saw this movie -- Ridley Scott's first feature -- at the Biograph Theater in Chicago upon its first release. My recollection is that Keitel's character is a complete, fucking, sociopath.
@@rickrose5377 Only discovered this film a few years back. Seen all of it. I agree with Irsan on how good it is. A film to bring up in good company. Yeah, Keitel played a belligerent that took it way too far.
@@Kelly14UK I agree, Kelly. It's a terrific movie that I first saw in a historic movie theater (The Biograph, you probably know, is the theater outside of which John Dillinger was killed). Keitel is playing an obsessive. It would be interesting to read the Conrad story from which the film was adapted.
@@rickrose5377 Yup, thanks for intel re JD, as i was thinking of him the other day. Think the wee Alpha jumped on a table during a bank rob. Anyway, back to The Duellists : Amazing what a film can put into an hour and 40 minutes. Don't want to give the plot away for noobs reading all this. Best Wishes, Glasgow,
This movie is one of the best historical films ever made. The cinematography, the costumes, the portrayal of Napoleon's France are all excellent. If you're expecting a slam bam action film then move on. If you're looking for a masterpiece of film making then you're in the right place.
I saw it at the time of its release at the Biograph Theater in Chicago -- the theater outside of which Dillinger was ambushed and killed by the FBI. Ridley Scott's first feature, I believe. I've had good luck at that theater -- better luck than Dillinger, certainly. I also saw 'Aguirre, Wrath of God' there. Hey, two films featuring pathological obsessives: Keitel's character and Aguirre.
To answer your original question, no, this particular duel was lost by d'Hubert because he was unable to continue, BUT there was no rule that the two MUST fight again because of that. Rather, Feraud simply challenged d'Hubert to another duel right away every time they met, no matter what the outcome of the previous duels as long as they were both able to fight. Duels were often fought until "first blood", but in this case Feraud obviously wanted to kill d'Hubert, so they fought again and again.
Smallsword won't have the flashy cuting strikes (at least in Anglo-French tradition). It'll be very quick and deadly with small movements. There are some flashy moves but the manuals of the time reminded fencers not to be flashy, because it was dangerous. In effect, flashy gives your opponent more time to do something. Mundane stabby, stabby is more efficient.
The point of that scene was to show just how quickly a duel could end. If you want something a bit longer and more "exciting" then try the opening smallsword scene from the same movie; it's probably the best (in terms of accuracy) sword duel on film.
Damn that was quick! I think people forget that that is the point - economy of movement. One move and bam, it's over. If you're lucky (or unlucky depending on which one you are lol). To be fair though it looked like he nicked him with the point only you can see the sword pass BY his side. How it caused a stab wound so far in from the edge of his body is probably just an artifact of the film making. Not to dis the film, I love it. BTW if you want a "flashier" fight see some of the sabre duels in the same film they are wild.
Apparently so. It's because he's so badly injured that he's incapacitated and unable to stand up. Apparently it was considered dishonorable to finish off a helpless enemy.
@@h0rn3d_h1st0r1an And pathologically obsessive. Based, as it is, on a Conrad short story, that also seems about right. Conrad's fiction is full of obsessives.
I just love this movie. The costumes, the scenery. It may not be as epic as, say, Barry Lyndon, but the Duellists is one of the best period movies in my opinion.
Irsan
I saw this movie -- Ridley Scott's first feature -- at the Biograph Theater in Chicago upon its first release. My recollection is that Keitel's character is a complete, fucking, sociopath.
@@rickrose5377 Only discovered this film a few years back. Seen all of it.
I agree with Irsan on how good it is. A film to bring up in good company. Yeah, Keitel played a belligerent that took it way too far.
@@Kelly14UK
I agree, Kelly. It's a terrific movie that I first saw in a historic movie theater (The Biograph, you probably know, is the theater outside of which John Dillinger was killed). Keitel is playing an obsessive. It would be interesting to read the Conrad story from which the film was adapted.
@@rickrose5377 Yup, thanks for intel re JD, as i was thinking of him the other day. Think the wee Alpha jumped on a table during a bank rob.
Anyway, back to The Duellists : Amazing what a film can put into an hour and 40 minutes.
Don't want to give the plot away for noobs reading all this.
Best Wishes, Glasgow,
This movie is one of the best historical films ever made. The cinematography, the costumes, the portrayal of Napoleon's France are all excellent. If you're expecting a slam bam action film then move on. If you're looking for a masterpiece of film making then you're in the right place.
I saw it at the time of its release at the Biograph Theater in Chicago -- the theater outside of which Dillinger was ambushed and killed by the FBI.
Ridley Scott's first feature, I believe. I've had good luck at that theater -- better luck than Dillinger, certainly. I also saw 'Aguirre, Wrath of God' there.
Hey, two films featuring pathological obsessives: Keitel's character and Aguirre.
To answer your original question, no, this particular duel was lost by d'Hubert because he was unable to continue, BUT there was no rule that the two MUST fight again because of that. Rather, Feraud simply challenged d'Hubert to another duel right away every time they met, no matter what the outcome of the previous duels as long as they were both able to fight. Duels were often fought until "first blood", but in this case Feraud obviously wanted to kill d'Hubert, so they fought again and again.
I love the sword fighting in this movie, even though it’s not flashy. I only wish there were more scenes of the third duel.
Smallsword won't have the flashy cuting strikes (at least in Anglo-French tradition). It'll be very quick and deadly with small movements. There are some flashy moves but the manuals of the time reminded fencers not to be flashy, because it was dangerous. In effect, flashy gives your opponent more time to do something.
Mundane stabby, stabby is more efficient.
The point of that scene was to show just how quickly a duel could end. If you want something a bit longer and more "exciting" then try the opening smallsword scene from the same movie; it's probably the best (in terms of accuracy) sword duel on film.
Watched it first run in theater and it just happened to be when I studied saber.
I always have a good laugh with the "good morning" pleasantries. Keitel is like "get out of my way, I am here to kill Caradine" LOL.
One touch and he's off, home to his beloved general!
Damn that was quick! I think people forget that that is the point - economy of movement. One move and bam, it's over.
If you're lucky (or unlucky depending on which one you are lol).
To be fair though it looked like he nicked him with the point only you can see the sword pass BY his side. How it caused a stab wound so far in from the edge of his body is probably just an artifact of the film making. Not to dis the film, I love it.
BTW if you want a "flashier" fight see some of the sabre duels in the same film they are wild.
** A DUEL OF EPEE's !!
Well that was quick.
Apparently so. It's because he's so badly injured that he's incapacitated and unable to stand up. Apparently it was considered dishonorable to finish off a helpless enemy.
I saw this movie upon its first release. My recollection is that Keitel's character is a complete, fucking, sociopath.
Seems about right , probably with a god complex too lol
@@h0rn3d_h1st0r1an
And pathologically obsessive. Based, as it is, on a Conrad short story, that also seems about right. Conrad's fiction is full of obsessives.
@@rickrose5377 Oh, suuper obsessive. This guy needs a therapist.
internet, where is this with light sabers? come on you owe me
Vindictive till the end.
Armand Dubert Vs Gabriel Ferraud best film ever made
Morning - morning - MOooorning - whats new
O not much
Alun Armstrong?
in todays movies one of the duelists would have pink hair and the duel would be musicalized with AC/DC.
2.06. He hit air 1 meter away from his oponents body. lol
That is how you keep it safe in a play or movie :)
well that was boring