When I took this course it was the first time I ever took a course online of any kind, and I went in it with such confidence that I was going to love it because the description of the course was exactly what I was looking for to get to know Hekate. After the course my relationship with Hekate has strengthened so much! I also purchased the HEKATÆON and started working with it with such confidence thanks to this wonderful course. I still have to finish the book I had to take a brake since my mother was diagnosed with dementia and at the moment I am her only caretaker. But I’m not alone I have Hekate and her spirits working with me! ❤️ Great review I’m glad you’ve enjoyed the course.
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What a lovely and eloquent review! My partner and I were on the fence about taking the next cycle of this course, and you have answered so many of our questions. Thank you!
Wow. Thank you for this. I purchased the book Hekate Soteira at a metaphysical shop, a few months ago, and the owner recommended this course to me. And I have a curiosity about PGM, ever since hearing Dr. Sledge talk about Ancient Greek magic. . . Adding in your glowing review, I am going to seriously consider the course!
Greetings from Canada. Im here after a Glitch Bottle podcast with Jack. Im excited for all the rich info coming my way. Many thanks for the thorough and insightful review.
Thank you for this descrption of the course... I always love watching your videos and listening to what you have to say.. You have such a delightful way of speaking and explaining in depth. I am signing up for the 50 Rites course tonight and am super stoked to start along with Jack's "Hekataeon" book ❤😊.
Here I was thinking I was going to wait and, hopefully, take this course if it is offered sometime in 2023. But, after this review, I realized there was just no point in waiting! Thank you. I am ever so much looking forward to it!
Brilliant review! I really did like both your description of the course material and the way you described it. And special thanks for shedding light on the supposed target audiance as well! :) 🙏
Wow, Fish! Another fundamental review here! Someone with the knowledge you already have giving such a full praise is the safest of all recommendations. ‘Hail, Hekate’! And definitely ‘Hail, Jack Grayle'! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Thanks for the great review! Wondering how it compares to Jason Miller's course. I've heard such greatness about both. So happy it enriched your life and practice so profoundly!
I just finished Jason’s Heka 1 course and can say in all honesty that it will be something I work with for a life time. It starts slow, and then around week 5 it really speeds up. I can’t imagine how much more there is in Heka 2 & 3 because just Heka 1 is an entire system of magic and sorcery. I highly recommend it.
Thank you FF, I was not aware of this class, but am very aware of Hekate! I just signed up for the class! Really looking forward to it, thanks again for your review and recommendation
Looks wonderful. The price is definitely out of my range for the moment. Around 50 dollars for 2 weeks and it is a 13 week course so comes to over 300 dollars. Hopefully later on when I get more funds I can take it.
@@joekennedy5110 nope. Just nope. I would pay that if I meant I received some kind of certification of use in the ordinary world, and it included face to face class time. DOES sound interesting though. Pity
@@abrazor Im sure its great too but those prices just make it for certain types of people. It pushes many people out , makes it elitist and that is very non-Hecate imo
@@joekennedy5110 yeah, Hekate is the godess of witchcraft more than anything else and that was the practice of the social outcast and of the masses, in contrast to the "high magic" that some upper class educated used. I myself am interested in starting a relationship with Hekate, so was interested, but will have to look elsewhere.
I'm rarely interested in talking courses but like many who work with Hekate I've always been very drawn to hey. That being said I've taken both Jack grayles course and Jason Miller's hekate course. (OK to be truly honest I'm currently taking jack grayles PGM 50 rites for 50 nights) and while Jason Miller's class is very good my personal opinion is that if you're deciding between the two then hands down jack Grayles was the greater value.
Salutations, Denis! I remember you picked up the Hekateon earlier this year; I was lucky enough to pick a copy around this time as well. 😃 Are we going to get the official Foolish Fish review anytime soon? This seemed to be the most appropriate video to inquire on 😅 Many thanks, love what you do!
I really would love to see that review as well! Only recently I became aware of the existence of this book and I'm quite interested in it, though since it is so difficult and expensive to acquire I'd love to hear your thoughts on it first.
So, I'm interested in learning magick, but I'm a (non-laveyan) auto-theist and have no desire, and feel no need, to invoke external authority - nor do I recognize any such authority. Would such a course still be useful to me?
I've had a sour taste in my mouth after taking one of Jack's classes, but I keep wondering if I should take this course. I've heard numerous good reviews of the class.
Hey, could you share which course you had unpleasant experience with, as I've been thinking about taking some of the courses on the blackthorne site, but am still unsure.
@@sunthroughtherain2570 To preface, this is my personal experience with the class and people thoroughly enjoy Jack's classes. It seemed to me that Jack was presenting information that was already widely available to the public. For example, Jack refers to the PGM a lot in this class and while it's good to refer back to historical sources, it left me wanting more. Jack does include some personal materials here and there, but for the price of the class, I was expecting something a bit more than just sources I could find by myself. All and all, Jack runs a good class, it just wasn't for me.
@@PunkOpossom Hey, thanks for the reply. I thought you initially meant you had bad experience with a ritual or something, that's why I asked. :) I have enough stuff on my plate without doing any rituals at the moment and didn't want to add additional salt to my life :D
Excellent review. Now you have put me in cross minds though, I was going to practice parts of "queen of hell" by mark alan smith since Jack's books was mostly out of stock (the hekataeon). Didn't know there was a course.
Yes! The book is (only temporarily) out of print, however at no point does the course rely on it (refer t o it, sure, maybe once or twice, but never rely)
As always, a great review of whatever it is that u are reviewing and much appreciate it Have a business suggestion which I hope u like: I for the past year and half, has become accustomed to your soothing voice so much! That is why I was so bummed out to hear u won't continue the Iliad saga. Just had this flash, which pains me to know that I might never get to purchase it cause I live in Iran and aside from the low value of our money I don't have access to international banking systems, but how about you, Mr Poisson, our beloved Foolish Fish, creat a collection of guided meditations and pathworkings even. For the civilian users😁 as well as the esoteric and occult community I bet at least many of ur subscribers will enjoy it, very much so and then u can even think about an app like the Headspace but for magicians and mystics. That would be so cool
:D Thank you, Reza, in fact I have indeed created a series of guided pathworkings which are available to all level 2+ members (through YuTube Memberships or Patreon) ;)
@@FoolishFishBooks oh shoot, didn't know about it. U see, I am both a genius and a magician: I think of brilliant ideas and they have manifested in the world before even I think about them: either I can make changes to the past, which means I am a great sorcerer, or, and the only other explanation would be that, I, as a genius, have in fact made myself a time machine. Unfortunately I can't tell anyone which is the truth, cause if I tell them the truth, then I will have to kill them😁😁😂😂 Good heavens, I am going mad! Are u familiar with the"Headspace" app? Plz do check it out, and make one better And I can be an employee cause u know, I am a GENIUS as previously proven! Thanks for great content my good friend
@@rezashahmizad9585 😂♥️ I have no doubt about your genius status, Reza 😂 And yes, my wife was subscribed to headspace. Seemed like some effort had gone into it, I just think she wasn't using it often enough to justify the cost.
@@FoolishFishBooks your too kind denis❤️😁 It was a good tool, and I used the free series it had and meditated for the first time in my life with it. In any case, ur series will be much better because u have such a deep understanding in a variety of fields and let's face it, u are a magician What chance does the world have in blocking your success if you simply decided to do it?😉 Looking forward to your review of the new translation of"Sun of knowledge" ( shams al ma'aref) I got it's translation in farsi, and although it is dangerous, and I mean really dangerous for the uninitiated in Islamic occult, and even those that are not adept in it if they try the conjurations (the full version that is), I would love to hear ur take on it. It really is something else. I started with ur channel, and all my knowledge and little practice was based on western esoteric tradition, it definitely is full of concepts that I would never dream about. For example, my practice, in which I am only an apprentice and a noob, starts after the planetary magik! In Islamic tradition, planetary practice is still considered chthonic, and if one is to be faithful to the religious beliefs, one should only work with Higher magik, i.e angelic entities and other entities that I really don't know yet what they are called in english, in the service of divinity. These are powers unlike any other I have ever, well, I haven't seen much, but this is on another ballpark Sry to write so much. I should find some ways to get on FF discord servers one day, I am dying to discuss it with like-minded individuals, since I have never been a dogmatic person, I unfortunately can't find many common topics of interest with other apprentices under my teacher. Good luck to u Mr Fish❤️
This was a good review. Thorough and honest. I appreciate it and even though I am called by Ishtar I will give this course a look. See if it calls to me. Thanks
Hekate course seems like it's all about theory, I wonder what are the practical implications of engaging with Hekate this way? Also, does anybody has any experience with another Blackthorne school course: Somatic Sorcery? It's hard for me to find any reviews. Especially as for a bodyworker.
Curious as to whether this course is appropriate for a beginner. While not a complete beginner, I would barely consider myself a neophyte. The impression I got from the intro video to the course is it’s more for an intermediate practitioner. Thank you for the review!
Jack's very modest. No, while I wouldn't recommend this as your very first encounter with magic, if you have been thinking about magic and gods and spirits and the meaning of it all for more than say, a year, while youay not be able to access every single detail of this course, there'll be so much that you can access that will be of higher quality than anything else out there that you won't even be bothered by what you can't yet access. The videos remain available after the end of the course, so as you continue to develop you can revisit and continue getting new stuff from the material as it becomes relevant to you (and you notice it!)
When you say „the course is for anyone“, would that include first-time practitioners as well? I have been looking for something practical for ages now and still haven’t found the right fit 😔
I think that first time practitioners will find great material here to get started and continue to find great material as the go over the material over and over again at regular (maybe yearly?) intervals, finding new interesting stuff every time.
FF, will you at some point explain and share why someone would choose to work with Hekate? Her history, why the old time civilizations would turn to her, and her application and personal efforts with a modern individual? A few years ago I felt a strong call from Hekate without being involved in that world much prior, and was first lead to the Jason Miller course that I ended up taking. I feel that there is definitely something to be said about original PGM versus new material such like JM’s. In the end, what I got out of the course is something I cannot describe and it leaves me questioning really, still, what and who is Hekate? I have worked with her for over a year but haven’t had many more than 3 close experiences that still leave me confused.
But here's the big question: does it teach basic devotional practice? It sounds like it covers a lot of ground magically-speaking very well which is great for occultists but I didn't hear much about how to engage with Her devotionally (which is a lot more important than most occultists these days are willing to admit). Now, granted, I would imagine that this would probably be one of the first things learned and maybe not seen as something to highlight in particular in a review but it is a deceptively simple part of the process that is way more crucial than is taught today
You're completely right on all accounts, and yes, I did believe that the presence of the devotional aspect might go without saying, focusing more on pointing out that if you're not so much up for a devotional practice but simply wish to learn about her and the ancient magical context, then that's fine ALSO 😊🙏
@@FoolishFishBooks Cool. Sounds like a pretty cool program then. I just needed to ask about the devotional elements because there is an awful lot of anti-devotional sentiment among occultists these days based in notions that simple acts of piety towards any deity are somehow incredibly dangerous and not for beginners (a sentiment that is historically-speaking just factually untrue and is quite frankly dangerous in and of itself). Now, granted, there are some (a small number) of deities that need to be approached with caution because of how They operate (a good example would be some of the Petro Loa in Haitian Vodou). But the idea that pouring a glass of wine in honor of Zeus and saying "Thank you!" is somehow going to "destroy your life" as one person I saw put it is just a tremendous overcorrection in the attempt to prevent a problem that really only the most foolhardy (and quite frankly immature) are ever going to encounter. The kinds of problems these people talk about just don't happen to people that show basic respect, practice due diligence in research, and utilize just a pinch of common sense.
@@WildMen4444 oh i completely get that. I've also seen some pretty dumb attitudes based on fear and a misunderstanding of what is actually the potential source of problems. No. I can safely say that Jack is VERY comfortable with devotion, and the devotional aspect is extensively covered in the course.
I offer 1-to-1 video chats, though I'm afraid they're not the cheapest thing in the world... If I had more time on my hands I'd make them cheaper, however at least this way people who really want it have the option :) foolishfish.simplybook.it/
It’s like opening up Hekate’s master key and deciphering the symbols found there, & then extrapolating it in to a language we can all understand, that is we can both apply to our individual practices, and that is conducive for the modern occult world in general. Thank you Foolish Fish for sharing your experiences with this book and course X 👏🏻🙌🏻😈🥰❤️🫶🏻✨💎✨
@@FoolishFishBooks just wish I had an endless amount of health (energy) and of course money 💰 lol 😂😁🥰 so I can purchase any book/course/items that take my fancy X
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I totally concur. Just took this course, and in just the first week my relationship with and understanding of her was transformed.
When I took this course it was the first time I ever took a course online of any kind, and I went in it with such confidence that I was going to love it because the description of the course was exactly what I was looking for to get to know Hekate. After the course my relationship with Hekate has strengthened so much! I also purchased the HEKATÆON and started working with it with such confidence thanks to this wonderful course. I still have to finish the book I had to take a brake since my mother was diagnosed with dementia and at the moment I am her only caretaker. But I’m not alone I have Hekate and her spirits working with me! ❤️ Great review I’m glad you’ve enjoyed the course.
It costs $450 ?
@@wishpunk9188 lol Yes. But there are other courses that are way more.
Oh I'm aware. Thank you for reply.
What is the hekataeon?
@@fonzy1987hh a book wrotten by jack grayle. It is intentionally rare to obtain. When a new addition is available grab it. Well worth the 100$
Jack Grayle is one of the most genuine kind and skilled magi . We are blessed to have him in this community 🙏🙏🙏
Couldn't agree more! 😊👍
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This is a great course. Jack Grayle is such a knowledgeable and captivating speaker.
What a lovely and eloquent review! My partner and I were on the fence about taking the next cycle of this course, and you have answered so many of our questions. Thank you!
Wow. Thank you for this. I purchased the book Hekate Soteira at a metaphysical shop, a few months ago, and the owner recommended this course to me. And I have a curiosity about PGM, ever since hearing Dr. Sledge talk about Ancient Greek magic. . . Adding in your glowing review, I am going to seriously consider the course!
PERFECT TIMING?!?? Is this a sign?? I prayed to Hekate last night and started reading a book about the history of the goddess!!
Ooh! Well this seems fortuitous! 😄♥️
Greetings from Canada.
Im here after a Glitch Bottle podcast with Jack.
Im excited for all the rich info coming my way.
Many thanks for the thorough and insightful review.
Que an honour to be recommended after a Glitch Bottle video! 😄🙏
very excellent class! Jack is great presenter and full of insights highly recommend it!
Thank you for this descrption of the course... I always love watching your videos and listening to what you have to say.. You have such a delightful way of speaking and explaining in depth. I am signing up for the 50 Rites course tonight and am super stoked to start along with Jack's "Hekataeon" book ❤😊.
Here I was thinking I was going to wait and, hopefully, take this course if it is offered sometime in 2023. But, after this review, I realized there was just no point in waiting! Thank you. I am ever so much looking forward to it!
Jack is a true delight. I've taken PGM Praxis and am catching up on Godsong, and I cannot recommend his courses highly enough.
Thank you for sharing this. I have been looking for a Hekate course that was well rounded.
Ooh! You won't be disappointed 😄🙏❤️
What a thoughtful review, no doubt about it Jack is a master at his Craft.
Quite a gem indeed, Gabriel! 😄 Loved his article in Anathema's latest issue of Pillars ♥️
@@FoolishFishBooks Absolutely! Brilliant stuff!
Brilliant review! I really did like both your description of the course material and the way you described it. And special thanks for shedding light on the supposed target audiance as well! :) 🙏
Talk about divine timing, I just inquired about the course last night. 🗝️🔥
Super helpful, as usual. Thanks!
Thank you so much, @Vince! I only just saw that this was a Super-thanks! (the RUclips studio app doesn't tell me🤦) I really appreciate this!
@@FoolishFishBooks no worries my friend! Always happy to support and always grateful for the info!
Wow, Fish! Another fundamental review here! Someone with the knowledge you already have giving such a full praise is the safest of all recommendations. ‘Hail, Hekate’! And definitely ‘Hail, Jack Grayle'! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
A wholehearted recommendation 😄
Thanks for the great review! Wondering how it compares to Jason Miller's course. I've heard such greatness about both. So happy it enriched your life and practice so profoundly!
I just finished Jason’s Heka 1 course and can say in all honesty that it will be something I work with for a life time. It starts slow, and then around week 5 it really speeds up. I can’t imagine how much more there is in Heka 2 & 3 because just Heka 1 is an entire system of magic and sorcery. I highly recommend it.
@@kirstenwelcome4520 wow! That is fantastic! Enjoy every bit of it!!
Thank you for recommending this course. I just finished it 🎉! HAIL HEKATE!
Hail Hekate indeed! :D
This is such perfect timing. I have just recently be very much called to work with Hecate. I need this course. 🖤
I believe (though not 100% certain) that enrolments may reopen in November for the next cohort :)
@@FoolishFishBooks Enrollments are open now for the course starting in November. Already on it. Lol
Thank you FF, I was not aware of this class, but am very aware of Hekate! I just signed up for the class! Really looking forward to it, thanks again for your review and recommendation
Looks wonderful. The price is definitely out of my range for the moment. Around 50 dollars for 2 weeks and it is a 13 week course so comes to over 300 dollars. Hopefully later on when I get more funds I can take it.
From $45.60 USD every two weeks for 18 weeks!
@@joekennedy5110 nope. Just nope. I would pay that if I meant I received some kind of certification of use in the ordinary world, and it included face to face class time. DOES sound interesting though. Pity
@@abrazor Im sure its great too but those prices just make it for certain types of people. It pushes many people out , makes it elitist and that is very non-Hecate imo
@@joekennedy5110 yeah, Hekate is the godess of witchcraft more than anything else and that was the practice of the social outcast and of the masses, in contrast to the "high magic" that some upper class educated used. I myself am interested in starting a relationship with Hekate, so was interested, but will have to look elsewhere.
Just signed up for this class! Super excited!
Ah I wish I could go through this for the first time again! 😄 Enjoy!
As you already know and just for the records: I signed up after watching your review 🐈⬛😊
♥️🥳🥳🥳🙏
I'm rarely interested in talking courses but like many who work with Hekate I've always been very drawn to hey. That being said I've taken both Jack grayles course and Jason Miller's hekate course.
(OK to be truly honest I'm currently taking jack grayles PGM 50 rites for 50 nights) and while Jason Miller's class is very good my personal opinion is that if you're deciding between the two then hands down jack Grayles was the greater value.
You really have the ability to inspire someone to take a course. When my current course ends, this will be the next one. 🙏
I admit that Jack has the ability to cause me to! :D I'm sure you'll love it!
Have you reviewed Jason Millers Hekate course? I’d love to know more about it, I’ve just signed up for the Oct 31st cycle start.
Salutations, Denis!
I remember you picked up the Hekateon earlier this year; I was lucky enough to pick a copy around this time as well. 😃
Are we going to get the official Foolish Fish review anytime soon? This seemed to be the most appropriate video to inquire on 😅
Many thanks, love what you do!
Soon...ish! 😂
I really would love to see that review as well! Only recently I became aware of the existence of this book and I'm quite interested in it, though since it is so difficult and expensive to acquire I'd love to hear your thoughts on it first.
It truly is so unique and interesting. It opened the door to so much for me!!
So, I'm interested in learning magick, but I'm a (non-laveyan) auto-theist and have no desire, and feel no need, to invoke external authority - nor do I recognize any such authority.
Would such a course still be useful to me?
I've had a sour taste in my mouth after taking one of Jack's classes, but I keep wondering if I should take this course. I've heard numerous good reviews of the class.
Hey, could you share which course you had unpleasant experience with, as I've been thinking about taking some of the courses on the blackthorne site, but am still unsure.
@@sunthroughtherain2570 To preface, this is my personal experience with the class and people thoroughly enjoy Jack's classes. It seemed to me that Jack was presenting information that was already widely available to the public. For example, Jack refers to the PGM a lot in this class and while it's good to refer back to historical sources, it left me wanting more. Jack does include some personal materials here and there, but for the price of the class, I was expecting something a bit more than just sources I could find by myself. All and all, Jack runs a good class, it just wasn't for me.
@@PunkOpossom Hey, thanks for the reply. I thought you initially meant you had bad experience with a ritual or something, that's why I asked. :) I have enough stuff on my plate without doing any rituals at the moment and didn't want to add additional
salt to my life :D
Excellent review. Now you have put me in cross minds though, I was going to practice parts of "queen of hell" by mark alan smith since Jack's books was mostly out of stock (the hekataeon). Didn't know there was a course.
Yes! The book is (only temporarily) out of print, however at no point does the course rely on it (refer t o it, sure, maybe once or twice, but never rely)
@@FoolishFishBooks I will take the course for sure. Blessing for me since I had been drawn to working with Hecate for a while. Feels like a calling.
As always, a great review of whatever it is that u are reviewing and much appreciate it
Have a business suggestion which I hope u like:
I for the past year and half, has become accustomed to your soothing voice so much!
That is why I was so bummed out to hear u won't continue the Iliad saga.
Just had this flash, which pains me to know that I might never get to purchase it cause I live in Iran and aside from the low value of our money I don't have access to international banking systems, but how about you, Mr Poisson, our beloved Foolish Fish, creat a collection of guided meditations and pathworkings even.
For the civilian users😁 as well as the esoteric and occult community
I bet at least many of ur subscribers will enjoy it, very much so and then u can even think about an app like the Headspace but for magicians and mystics.
That would be so cool
:D Thank you, Reza, in fact I have indeed created a series of guided pathworkings which are available to all level 2+ members (through YuTube Memberships or Patreon) ;)
@@FoolishFishBooks oh shoot, didn't know about it.
U see, I am both a genius and a magician:
I think of brilliant ideas and they have manifested in the world before even I think about them: either I can make changes to the past, which means I am a great sorcerer, or, and the only other explanation would be that, I, as a genius, have in fact made myself a time machine.
Unfortunately I can't tell anyone which is the truth, cause if I tell them the truth, then I will have to kill them😁😁😂😂
Good heavens, I am going mad!
Are u familiar with the"Headspace" app?
Plz do check it out, and make one better
And I can be an employee cause u know, I am a GENIUS as previously proven!
Thanks for great content my good friend
@@rezashahmizad9585 😂♥️ I have no doubt about your genius status, Reza 😂
And yes, my wife was subscribed to headspace. Seemed like some effort had gone into it, I just think she wasn't using it often enough to justify the cost.
@@rezashahmizad9585 😂 absolutely genius!
@@FoolishFishBooks your too kind denis❤️😁
It was a good tool, and I used the free series it had and meditated for the first time in my life with it.
In any case, ur series will be much better because u have such a deep understanding in a variety of fields and let's face it, u are a magician
What chance does the world have in blocking your success if you simply decided to do it?😉
Looking forward to your review of the new translation of"Sun of knowledge" ( shams al ma'aref)
I got it's translation in farsi, and although it is dangerous, and I mean really dangerous for the uninitiated in Islamic occult, and even those that are not adept in it if they try the conjurations (the full version that is), I would love to hear ur take on it. It really is something else.
I started with ur channel, and all my knowledge and little practice was based on western esoteric tradition, it definitely is full of concepts that I would never dream about.
For example, my practice, in which I am only an apprentice and a noob, starts after the planetary magik!
In Islamic tradition, planetary practice is still considered chthonic, and if one is to be faithful to the religious beliefs, one should only work with Higher magik, i.e angelic entities and other entities that I really don't know yet what they are called in english, in the service of divinity.
These are powers unlike any other I have ever, well, I haven't seen much, but this is on another ballpark
Sry to write so much.
I should find some ways to get on FF discord servers one day, I am dying to discuss it with like-minded individuals, since I have never been a dogmatic person, I unfortunately can't find many common topics of interest with other apprentices under my teacher.
Good luck to u Mr Fish❤️
This was a good review. Thorough and honest. I appreciate it and even though I am called by Ishtar I will give this course a look. See if it calls to me. Thanks
Does anyone know if there is a FB group for people studying the Hekateon book that haven’t taken the course?
would you please be so kind to make a book review for liber khthonia by Jeff Cullen please?
Hail Hekate!
Hekate course seems like it's all about theory, I wonder what are the practical implications of engaging with Hekate this way? Also, does anybody has any experience with another Blackthorne school course: Somatic Sorcery? It's hard for me to find any reviews. Especially as for a bodyworker.
The practical side of the course is considerable. It's just not "all practice" like in so many other courses.
@@FoolishFishBooks Appreciate your answer, long time fan here :)
Thought that said Hail Hydra
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Curious as to whether this course is appropriate for a beginner. While not a complete beginner, I would barely consider myself a neophyte. The impression I got from the intro video to the course is it’s more for an intermediate practitioner. Thank you for the review!
Jack's very modest. No, while I wouldn't recommend this as your very first encounter with magic, if you have been thinking about magic and gods and spirits and the meaning of it all for more than say, a year, while youay not be able to access every single detail of this course, there'll be so much that you can access that will be of higher quality than anything else out there that you won't even be bothered by what you can't yet access. The videos remain available after the end of the course, so as you continue to develop you can revisit and continue getting new stuff from the material as it becomes relevant to you (and you notice it!)
Thanks so much I can’t wait!
roughly how much time per week?
about 1.5 - 2 hours (plus your own practice)
@@FoolishFishBooks thanks. I’m going to do it.
This was the best course ive ever taken on line BAR NONE
When you say „the course is for anyone“, would that include first-time practitioners as well? I have been looking for something practical for ages now and still haven’t found the right fit 😔
I think that first time practitioners will find great material here to get started and continue to find great material as the go over the material over and over again at regular (maybe yearly?) intervals, finding new interesting stuff every time.
You need to do more videos with your face. You’re a good looking guy.
Heh! You're very kind 😅🙏
Is the methods the same methods in the hekataeon ?
This is it's own thing.
FF, will you at some point explain and share why someone would choose to work with Hekate? Her history, why the old time civilizations would turn to her, and her application and personal efforts with a modern individual?
A few years ago I felt a strong call from Hekate without being involved in that world much prior, and was first lead to the Jason Miller course that I ended up taking. I feel that there is definitely something to be said about original PGM versus new material such like JM’s. In the end, what I got out of the course is something I cannot describe and it leaves me questioning really, still, what and who is Hekate? I have worked with her for over a year but haven’t had many more than 3 close experiences that still leave me confused.
This course is focused on answering this very question.
But here's the big question: does it teach basic devotional practice? It sounds like it covers a lot of ground magically-speaking very well which is great for occultists but I didn't hear much about how to engage with Her devotionally (which is a lot more important than most occultists these days are willing to admit). Now, granted, I would imagine that this would probably be one of the first things learned and maybe not seen as something to highlight in particular in a review but it is a deceptively simple part of the process that is way more crucial than is taught today
You're completely right on all accounts, and yes, I did believe that the presence of the devotional aspect might go without saying, focusing more on pointing out that if you're not so much up for a devotional practice but simply wish to learn about her and the ancient magical context, then that's fine ALSO 😊🙏
@@FoolishFishBooks Cool. Sounds like a pretty cool program then. I just needed to ask about the devotional elements because there is an awful lot of anti-devotional sentiment among occultists these days based in notions that simple acts of piety towards any deity are somehow incredibly dangerous and not for beginners (a sentiment that is historically-speaking just factually untrue and is quite frankly dangerous in and of itself). Now, granted, there are some (a small number) of deities that need to be approached with caution because of how They operate (a good example would be some of the Petro Loa in Haitian Vodou). But the idea that pouring a glass of wine in honor of Zeus and saying "Thank you!" is somehow going to "destroy your life" as one person I saw put it is just a tremendous overcorrection in the attempt to prevent a problem that really only the most foolhardy (and quite frankly immature) are ever going to encounter. The kinds of problems these people talk about just don't happen to people that show basic respect, practice due diligence in research, and utilize just a pinch of common sense.
@@WildMen4444 oh i completely get that. I've also seen some pretty dumb attitudes based on fear and a misunderstanding of what is actually the potential source of problems. No. I can safely say that Jack is VERY comfortable with devotion, and the devotional aspect is extensively covered in the course.
Can we chat, you obviously know our subject, I look forward to hearing from you x
I offer 1-to-1 video chats, though I'm afraid they're not the cheapest thing in the world... If I had more time on my hands I'd make them cheaper, however at least this way people who really want it have the option :)
foolishfish.simplybook.it/
I'm sure Jason Miller would have something to say..
It’s like opening up Hekate’s master key and deciphering the symbols found there, & then extrapolating it in to a language we can all understand, that is we can both apply to our individual practices, and that is conducive for the modern occult world in general. Thank you Foolish Fish for sharing your experiences with this book and course X 👏🏻🙌🏻😈🥰❤️🫶🏻✨💎✨
Beautifully put, @Benedicta! 🙏
@@FoolishFishBooks just wish I had an endless amount of health (energy) and of course money 💰 lol 😂😁🥰 so I can purchase any book/course/items that take my fancy X
@@FoolishFishBooks thank you for the compliment too X 🥰🥰🥰