I had quit over the Obj 263 line rework being announced a month after I got the 263 and started enjoying it. I'm an arty main, and I quit because they gave me an overpowered vehicle to replace my skill reliant vehicle. I had also predicted that the BL-10 would get sold back as a premium. Seeing that it happen wasn't surprising but still pissed me off.
A poem about wargaming : Wargaming´s strategy, at least their main, is bringing our wallets even more pain, they are sure having a pretty good streak, putting out premiums nearly every week. The russian ones we need the most, that are stealthy as an invisible ghost, that are faster than a ray of light, that can dominate in every fight. Hope they will buff this too, we just need a better ISU, give it armor, give it a cup holder, dont forget about the autoloader. Make it fast, like the French, give it some kind of special wrench, that repairs the tracks in the blink of an eye, upgrade the engine, so it also can fly. Give it something like infinite pen, Replace the crew with immortal men, make the commander Stalin himself, for every battle endless wealth. Put it on a 279e hull, so it can be played by the dullest of dull, give the gold rounds a bit of a crack, if you hit somebody - ammorack. I Hope this will not be their last, we desperately need more and fast, and the germans - they surely are fine, will they be buffed? Of course NEIN! Is the game balanced well? Well balance has a pleasant smell. But everytime i open WoT, i only smell shit and rot.
Luka ' Balance is not the problem here. They removed it from tech tree ISU arguing it was OP. Now they’re bringing it back on a premium tank you have to pay for. This is pay to win
@@SoundAndFuryy Yes, we do have the option NOT to buy it. But why the fuck remove it in the first place if you're just going to return it on a Premium TD? And yes......I know I just answered my own question. But that's my point. Is Wargaming going to start doing this more and more often? Make you pay to get back a tank you loved playing that wasn't OP (apart from the 286 penetration on an inaccurate gun)?
@@theverminator8048 that's the point, it hurts the team that player is on. I rather like this idea, though the fact that it is smart and sensible should be an indication that it will never happen because WG only seems to care about churning out profit, they gave up on a quality product long ago.
Rob H disagree completely. There is no incentive for players to learn the game in the first place. There are just as many "experienced" players with 5-10000 plus battles and 30-45 percent win rate. Why should people learn the game? Far too many treat this like an arcade game and use no strategy whatsoever. Wg needs to reward teamplay a lot more and have a lot more training missions to teach people the game...even a pve mode would help (even if it was only for training) to teach positioning, map awareness, tank types and roles, spotting, camo, angling etc. Blaming bad mm on prem tanks is just the easy button, but its the wrong one. I can barely play this game anymore bc tier x battles are just like tier 2 battles...teams lemming..ignore map, heavies camp bushes..lights hang out with arty and meds camp base with the tds. Its infuriating to get rofl stomped bc your team has no clue how ti play the game (and the majority of my games are tier x...so there is no "premium" tank excuse. People who play this game are on avg just bad at it, and have no desire or motivation to improve bc wg does nothing to make them want to.
To be fair, this is also a 152mm instead of a 105mm. It'll be 3x overmatching far more often. Not to mention the greater normalization of AP shells. So effectively, this gun has much better penetration characteristics than the UDES 03. Although the UDES 03 has the accuracy to compensate.
Jean-chri Delfoege dispersion is half the story though. Your gun handling matters a lot more. If you have good gun handling (I.e. EBR’s) you can snapshot like nothing because your reticle doesn’t bloom as much. Dispersion is overall accuracy though so it has an impact as well. Looking at the stats the gun handling is worse than the normal ISU 152 gun.
@@mastersanada what at I wanted to say is that with the T-100LT, when you shoot fully aimed, the shell goes where you aim, pretty much. And it has .43 accuracy...
BUT at least that "project" was carried out 'well'...gameplay-wise it is literally the same as the regular KV-2...the whole thing lacked creativity for sure, but didnt make the game and WG's reputation worse...alike this plan...
Sonkoly Leon that’s a good point but I was thinking one shell alpha... that one feels almost like an autoloader to me except that you can hit both shells at the same time
they key difference being you can have a situation where you penetrate only one shell, making it more consistent and less “all or nothing” than your usual big alpha tank. although it does have the big alpha effect on people so by that argument it does count
@@legoman1798 useless to compare two gun alpha to one gun alpha. With that logic something like Kranvagn hast the best alpha because it shoots three times from the same gun.
I knew that the day they removed the BL10 from the ISU. They will make a slightly better ISU with the BL10 and go "HerE IS a BeTTeR TieR 8" and expect ppl to suck up and buy it.
well the problem is when youre running regular isu youre bleeding money and when youre running this tank its making money. if someone like to drive isu 152 and sees this tank and they cant afford this tank at the time imagine how salty they are. this tank is basicly old isu 152 experience without sucking your credit empity
Are you joking, I had to run food, bond GLD and a bond GLD directives on the regular isu just to get good enough gun handling. This one has way worse gun handling. This is a hard pass for me, I'll stick to the scorpion g.
@@matthewpaine6908 cringe... ISU-152 is literally best tank in the game... it's fun ... and it's decently accurate... unless you use the shit guns and not the top one...
@@kajmak64bit76 Ya right, the Borsig with 15 cm gun is way better. Of Course the Borsig take more brains to play. If I want a Derpy 152 mm gun I will play the Su-152 or the Kv-2.
The soviet union designed,experimented and made far more tanks than almost every nation combined together after WW2. There are 100s of vehicles , especially the object series that arent in the game. There are many versions of the T55,T62,T54,T-10 and mbts that can be added into the game that would straight up make the chieftian look cute in terms of unbalanced
The camo on the Iron Rain makes it as scary as a WFT E100 imo. Getting hit for 1,500 damage by something you cannot see is as scary as hell even in a tier 10 vehicle.
@@paulmartin7378 aye but with the nerfs to the WFT E100 that happened recently it is useless a 1 min reload for something that won't even 1 shot most tanks is bs... i mean i would understand if they lowered the reload rate a bit to compensate but they didn't
@@JAGtheTrekkieGEMINI1701 No it really wasn't lol it can be spotted across the map most of the time and it has paper armor with a 1 minute reload and that it on the light gun rofl it wouldn't be able to carry a game on the xbox period the only reason people are bitching about it is because of the fact it can wipe out 1 tank when you have 14 others just sitting waiting and counting the 5 shells it had until another 1 minute to reload considering that each battles only 15 mins you can imagine how op it must be when it spends half of the time reloading and the other half getting blown to shit by anything with a pea shooter
What comes next, bring back WTF E-100 as tier 8 soviet "captured" premium with the guns it had? Btw it doesn't matter how big aiming bloom soviet tank has because Stalin guides shots to capitalist tanks. E: When do they add BT-42 to sweden tech tree like they add finnish stuff on swedish in WT? It would increase sales in Finland.
Finland never really had any home built tanks. Just russian, British and german tanks with Finnish paintjobs. Even the BT-42 was just a bt-7 with a British 4.5" howitzer mark II
Even mine with 3100 DPM, full gold rounds, a premium consumable and a very experienced crew isn't overpowered. I hoped it would be but that gunhandeling absolutely destroys this tank. Even with improved rotation, it's very hard to hit your shots (if you don't want to be aiming for eternity). 3100 dpm doesn't matter when most of your shells miss. The only good games you'll have are the ones where RNG is in your favour.
Well the apcr has 3 degrees less normalization and because of that it's harder to overmarch-pen (not complete overmatch) and easier to ricochet with it. Also The swedish tds have waaay less alpha and big guns overmatch it completely so i think it's rather well balanced.
@@Xiphactinus And siege mode. The double edged sword that is Siege mode is what really balances the S1. If you fire, get spotted, and arty eats you before you can move: game over. Otherwise that pen would be flat out broken. This thing can fire, drop 800+ damage with the same pen, and retreat instantly. That's just plain broken. It absolutely will result in other players having their experience ruined. A lucky shot from one of these things is essentially end of battle.
Someone had the smart idea to take away the only good thing about the regular isu 152 and transfer that gun from the tank destroyer to the k version, which has to be paid for.
QB with all the respect I have for you but don't start with that shit that maybe this time WG is right. What those pimps at WG simply want is to fill their pockets. Removing the BL-10 was already a move for the future. It is and will always be a pay-to-win game ... big hug from PORTUGAL QB.
Oh they removed the BL-10 from the standard ISU-152, damn haven't been on in a while so didn't know that. Looks like I'm coming back on to check how it is now a days
I got this from the loot boxes and I love it. If you play it dumb and they catch you out of position, it's a rolling coffin. But shooting that God killer gun is the best feeling ever. But let me have this... I hardly had any premium tanks before this one.
oh my....an other Russian prem tank.....Never seen that coming...Even better.....WG took out a totally free to play gun, out of the game...NOW you have to pay for this gun with real money....Oooohh WG, plz never change !! But common.....Let's think about this for a moment......WG removed this gun from the game because it was to OP...and now they are justifying this gun by changing the platform... I THINK you must be pretty dumb stupid to fall for this and buy this...TD
Staw222 Doesn’t fucking matter. What if the bl10 was someone’s favourite gun? It got removed for being op? Well then fair enough, but now WG spit in the face of every fucking player who loved the bl10 by making you pay real money for it. Wargaming is a fucking joke.
Ah, fab to get stuck into a proper tank review. Also, I am happy to see the honkin' BL-10 back at tier VIII. Sadly, I never got a chance to use it on the ISU-152 but I saw my brother use it. It was always funny to see someone get donked for 750 avg. dmg. It will be interesting to see the impact the tank has on the matchmaker. Fab video as always.
Any tank that has big alpha damage can be played in close combat. When you pack such a punch you can trade your HP to get a shot out and still have an OK battle.
jingles the another day that they have 28 premium t8 russian tanks. They are more than the entire polish line of tanks And another OP pos like the ISU-152....now i understand why their playerbase is diminishing every day.
It’s a russian game. WoT isn’t made with NA and EU players in mind. Russians love to buy up russian premiums, so WG gives them what they want. Russians don’t really care about swedish premiums or Chinese light tank buffs.
Best way for me to play this is as a sniper… albeit a little difficult at times, I can take huge chunks of health from enemy tanks I then move on to another tank with high health and leave the lower health tank for my team mates to get because they have a higher ROF. In other words focus on high health tanks take 1/3-1/2 their hit points let your team mates mop up
Add the improved aiming , takes it to .37 dispersion. Then factor in that everyone will shoot premium ammo because you want to get the best bang for your buck and not have ricochets, I can see why you'd want this in your garage.
Actually I like the fact destroyed objects can block ur vision. It makes it not just a visual issue but in fact creates a game feature. What I dont like is that it can be switched off.
@@spooky694 Artillery will always be a neverending debate with players. WG has already said to the community that they will NOT remove them because they have to be apart of the game otherwise, you destroy a part of the game's strategy. That is just something you have to live with. I used to get angry with arty, but all it takes is some map awareness and some of that "W key" to not get hit directly (if you do it right).
I sent the following ticket to Wargaming: - It is absurd and unacceptable to nerf the ISU 152 by decreasing its penetration and then launching a premium tank - ISU 152 K - with the penetration that the player had in his original tank. I am embarrassed to ask what is evident: Do you realize that you treat the player like a sucker? It is evidently an irrational conduct, and harmful to the game; revolting, which will drive players away, who will then look for another game ... This can be done in a less covert, more honest and clear way, as follows: after the modification, the next time the player clicks on the tank in your garage, would show a message: "Your tank has been nerfed. Now, to be able to get your penetration back, just buy your similar premium that we just launched." If the player complains, you can say: "That's right, we treat you like a sucker. Do you know all those hours you spent to get this tank, to improve it, to learn to play with it, to train your crew? That money you spend to speed up your training? Its over. If it was getting harder to play with ISU 152 due to the appearance of new tanks, mostly premiums, it’s over now: we’ve turned your tank into a butt and it’s not worth playing with. To recover, just spend more money on this new ISU 152K tank. Be a fool and do it because it's worth it ". I hope you understand that this type of conduct is not part of the game. Want to nerf a tank? that is for the next to be acquired, those in the garage must remain unchanged... I really hope that this attitude will change. I appreciate the attention.
almost exactly 7 years ago on the 16th of may 2013 you uploaded the original review of this td. back then it was a unique op gun at tier 8. today it doesn't stand out anymore. sometimes I wish WoT would go back to its good old days.
Historical, the original ISU 152 had the bl 10 as its main gun. Since it's released, it was never nerf till the released of the defender tier 8 tank. Then remove it and come back few years later. I'm seeing an algorithm here. Same thing is gonna happen with the su 122 54.
i dont normally argue with your videos but for once i think you have this all wrong QB, WG are clearly after a cash grab with this tank, take a tank away then give us it back worse than what it was ? i simply dont agree with these tactics, what we need are more maps, and yes i understand berlin is coming but like pretty much 90% of all other maps its likely to be filled with corridors which force you down a route to brawl with people, im also a light tank player and had quite alot of fun fulfilling that role, but now im forced to work my way up the EBR line because why wouldnt you ? they are simply better in everyway, now if i dont do my job as a light i get shouted at by the team, how am i supposed to deal with a 90-95kph wheeled vehicle that can auto-aim and snap HE shells into me while i have to try and physically aim at him ? its utter bullshit to be honest, wargaming need to quit adding new vehicles and think about some tanks that need love from the very first implemented tech trees
Why tf is every body so salty man, I have played the game for 6 years and this is just another tank we will just have to deal with, just think about getting behind it in a light tank haha
So after catching up about the changes they made to WoT since I stopped playing and watching a few great videos of you QB. I realize I don't want to come back to playing the game as it is a lot of fun indeed, but the pay-to-win aspect is still much to strong with it. The day they remove gold ammo and implement fun game modes more consistently, is the day I will come back. The RNG, the extremely underpowered stock vehicles, the gold ammo, the lack of fun game modes and the punishing you get from arty is a heartbreak.
@@ColorHawk_ Can't take a joke can you? I was referring to cases like the Pz IV. A OP tank pre 7-5 in 2012, reworked and later on released as an uptiered premium medium. Scummy way of marketing, but what can you expect from WG.
@@lehtokurppa7824 that really wasn't a joke. It looks the same as everyone else who is actually crying about everything WG does and the context for said "joke" is very arbitrary
@@Kijby The difference being that USSR consists of many republics, it is just as much Ukrainian, Belorussian, Georgian, Azerbaijanian etc tank as it is Russian.
@@megalamanooblol I know the difference, but then where did 'russian bias' or 'soviet russia' came from? Everybody think russia first(sad fact?)when someone say USSR. Just call it russian, not USSR or soviet.
I stopped playing wows after almost 4 years of playing daily because of the stupidly unbalanced (and mostly russian lol) ships they kept adding to the game. Switched to wot where I expected more fun. What a fool, they're still run by the same company lmao
Now they added Soviet submarines which are stupidly OP because of their repair consumable and torpedoes at the front *AND* at the back of the submarine. Perfectly balanced, komrade ))))
Next sales pitch at WG HQ WG employee: what if we took type 4/5 heavies and sell them as premiums with pre-nerfed armor and HE derp guns? WG Boss: DA comrade put tanks in shop!
ISU was (and still is) my most played tank in the game. IDK how I managed to do it but I have 12k games in it. It made no sense for me to go to tier 9/10, until they removed the BL-10 from it.
I ended up buying the tank, thanks for your review QuickyBaby. $65AUD but well worth it... First game i had, Mastery Badge, High Caliber, 5 Kills, 6k damage haha
You mentioned the problem in your bulk premium tank review a few months back - since Skorpion and Defender there was an apparent paradigm shift in WG regarding premiums. Now you can pull your credit card, wait a few weeks for premium offers and buy yourself into the game. Why would you even level low tiers - or high tiers for that matter? Tier 8 is the sweet spot where the fun is and all game mechanics are accessible. Back when you had just T34 , Lowe and IS-6 there was so much to explore. Now... want a Maus, hard-hitting TD, autoloader, autoreloader or a wheelie? Just do it! Every playstyle at your Visa's reach. The only thing not in the game yet is tier 8 premium arty. I'd love to see how many people actually would buy this sort of thing lol
“Did we want to have tier 8 TDs with 286mm of pen?”
*The STRV has entered the chat*
You mean UDES
IRONSIDE No the tier 8 premium
To be fair it's actually kinda balanced on the S1
@@GiM_Retrospect It's even more balanced in an ISU
But how about the alpha damage?
I literally predicted this as soon as the BL-10 was taken from the ISU-152.
I had quit over the Obj 263 line rework being announced a month after I got the 263 and started enjoying it.
I'm an arty main, and I quit because they gave me an overpowered vehicle to replace my skill reliant vehicle.
I had also predicted that the BL-10 would get sold back as a premium. Seeing that it happen wasn't surprising but still pissed me off.
In wot blitz Bl 10 is still in Isu 152
@@mrudula712 Because they are already making enough money(maybe not for them)with creates.
Or they will sell 105mm hetzer.
We all predicted the same.
Next comes the premium M4 with the original HEAT pen. :P
ISU-152K, now Overclockable!
LMFAO
looooool this is brilliant
Haha 😂😂😂😂
A poem about wargaming :
Wargaming´s strategy, at least their main,
is bringing our wallets even more pain,
they are sure having a pretty good streak,
putting out premiums nearly every week.
The russian ones we need the most,
that are stealthy as an invisible ghost,
that are faster than a ray of light,
that can dominate in every fight.
Hope they will buff this too,
we just need a better ISU,
give it armor, give it a cup holder,
dont forget about the autoloader.
Make it fast, like the French,
give it some kind of special wrench,
that repairs the tracks in the blink of an eye,
upgrade the engine, so it also can fly.
Give it something like infinite pen,
Replace the crew with immortal men,
make the commander Stalin himself,
for every battle endless wealth.
Put it on a 279e hull,
so it can be played by the dullest of dull,
give the gold rounds a bit of a crack,
if you hit somebody - ammorack.
I Hope this will not be their last,
we desperately need more and fast,
and the germans - they surely are fine,
will they be buffed? Of course NEIN!
Is the game balanced well?
Well balance has a pleasant smell.
But everytime i open WoT,
i only smell shit and rot.
I almost cried, this is so beautiful and also true
Not bad
Shakespeare would be proud
Shakespeare has left the chat.
Dude that was like perfect, amazing good job !!
Hey guys, we finally got another USSR Premium, it took long enough!
I was gonna say......FINALLY!!!!
At least its balanced (not sarcastic it really does seem well balanced)
Only 27 now!
Yeah, pretty long. Not even month.
Only fortnights since last premium tank!
Meanwhile the St. Emil and mid tier Czech and Chinese medium tanks cry in the corner, forgotten
Pls don't remind me of the St. Emil grind.
My St Emil only sees action during x5 events. Its gerbage
Honestly the St Emil is pretty amazing. 15degrees of depression. A hard smacking 128. Ok camo. Its mobility just hurts it
i just playing st emil for 9 battle, then skip to rhm borsig
can't forget the churchills and bp
I'm so glad WarGaming are providing fan service! You know, for all of us that aren't Russian.
Good one
Here we go again, wargaming's signature move
Heuj heuj heuj, let's nerf the ISU to make money of the removed gun! A classic!
Its balanced
better to have this than some new OP premium
@@Verybadbiker
750 alpha at T8's broken af mate
Luka ' Balance is not the problem here. They removed it from tech tree ISU arguing it was OP. Now they’re bringing it back on a premium tank you have to pay for. This is pay to win
"Hey kids, wanna buy the tank (or this case, the gun) we took away from you?" what a scam
hmm.. you have an option to not buy it?
@@SoundAndFuryy does not change the fact that it is a scam
In many ways it’s not the same gun...same name, but tweaked down on a nerfed platform.
@@SoundAndFuryy Yes, we do have the option NOT to buy it. But why the fuck remove it in the first place if you're just going to return it on a Premium TD? And yes......I know I just answered my own question. But that's my point. Is Wargaming going to start doing this more and more often? Make you pay to get back a tank you loved playing that wasn't OP (apart from the 286 penetration on an inaccurate gun)?
If Rhm.-Borsig Waffenträger also have premium version ,sure I will buy it .but this 152k, I'm not interested
You shouldn’t be allowed to buy premium tanks of a tier you’re not at in the tech tree, it messes up the MM in a big way.
But if a noob buys a tier 8 tank the noob will not be good anyways so you can still kill it easily
@@theverminator8048 that's the point, it hurts the team that player is on. I rather like this idea, though the fact that it is smart and sensible should be an indication that it will never happen because WG only seems to care about churning out profit, they gave up on a quality product long ago.
Rob H disagree completely. There is no incentive for players to learn the game in the first place. There are just as many "experienced" players with 5-10000 plus battles and 30-45 percent win rate. Why should people learn the game? Far too many treat this like an arcade game and use no strategy whatsoever. Wg needs to reward teamplay a lot more and have a lot more training missions to teach people the game...even a pve mode would help (even if it was only for training) to teach positioning, map awareness, tank types and roles, spotting, camo, angling etc. Blaming bad mm on prem tanks is just the easy button, but its the wrong one. I can barely play this game anymore bc tier x battles are just like tier 2 battles...teams lemming..ignore map, heavies camp bushes..lights hang out with arty and meds camp base with the tds. Its infuriating to get rofl stomped bc your team has no clue how ti play the game (and the majority of my games are tier x...so there is no "premium" tank excuse. People who play this game are on avg just bad at it, and have no desire or motivation to improve bc wg does nothing to make them want to.
Yesterday i had a Skorb g with 20 battles in my team...
@@maniacpanic666 Walletwarrior will never change...
Nerf the ISU-152 so you can sell another one with non nerfed ISU
WG: STONKS
Although it’s a questionable move the 152k is a nerfed isu... the bl10a isn’t as good as the old bl10
Just like old panzer IV or T-28
"Do we want tier 8 TD's with 286mm of pen? Hmm dunno" *laughs in Swedish UDES*
I dont know if you know this game, but 286 AP is more then 288 apcr.
@@MsAres355 the ap wotn bounce of batchats upper plates lol
@@mattgarkus2489 lmao i saw that on the fb group
To be fair, this is also a 152mm instead of a 105mm. It'll be 3x overmatching far more often. Not to mention the greater normalization of AP shells.
So effectively, this gun has much better penetration characteristics than the UDES 03. Although the UDES 03 has the accuracy to compensate.
@@mattgarkus2489 thats a god damn fact
They remove the BL10 so they can sold it in a prem tank. Even though they said originally "It's unbalanced"....Disgusting.
That's why they're adding the ISU-152K with a nerfed version of the BL-10, it's a BL-10A
Its not entirely true bc ISU with the BL10 was better than this new cookie
You are Disgusting premium isu
How is it disgusting? They literally made almost all of the other stats worse than the tech tree ISU
the thing that is unbalanced with the isu is not the bl10, it's the 750 alpha at tier8
If the .43 dispersion works like the .43 dispersion I have on the T-100-LT, you'll be able to snap pixels like nothing.
Jean-chri Delfoege dispersion is half the story though. Your gun handling matters a lot more. If you have good gun handling (I.e. EBR’s) you can snapshot like nothing because your reticle doesn’t bloom as much. Dispersion is overall accuracy though so it has an impact as well. Looking at the stats the gun handling is worse than the normal ISU 152 gun.
But it's Russian man so it will work like that crappy su130 pm and so more
@@mastersanada what at I wanted to say is that with the T-100LT, when you shoot fully aimed, the shell goes where you aim, pretty much. And it has .43 accuracy...
@@PaulAndries-rj5uw crappy ?
@@liszters8935 no need to aim full. I pull of 300 m snap shots with the ISU 152k without being in the sniper mode.
this always happens. every time its a close game, the enemies always appear in the worst place at the worst time
Hahahaha noob
Murphy's law...
@@user-ld3bl3lp7r Don't be offensive.
You forgot the KV-2 (R), that would have been the previous highest alpha damage premium tank
BUT at least that "project" was carried out 'well'...gameplay-wise it is literally the same as the regular KV-2...the whole thing lacked creativity for sure, but didnt make the game and WG's reputation worse...alike this plan...
Well no if you count the 2 shot rusky heavy with 780 alpha
Sonkoly Leon that’s a good point but I was thinking one shell alpha... that one feels almost like an autoloader to me except that you can hit both shells at the same time
they key difference being you can have a situation where you penetrate only one shell, making it more consistent and less “all or nothing” than your usual big alpha tank. although it does have the big alpha effect on people so by that argument it does count
@@legoman1798 useless to compare two gun alpha to one gun alpha. With that logic something like Kranvagn hast the best alpha because it shoots three times from the same gun.
I knew that the day they removed the BL10 from the ISU. They will make a slightly better ISU with the BL10 and go "HerE IS a BeTTeR TieR 8" and expect ppl to suck up and buy it.
But this one is worse
well the problem is when youre running regular isu youre bleeding money and when youre running this tank its making money. if someone like to drive isu 152 and sees this tank and they cant afford this tank at the time imagine how salty they are. this tank is basicly old isu 152 experience without sucking your credit empity
Are you joking, I had to run food, bond GLD and a bond GLD directives on the regular isu just to get good enough gun handling. This one has way worse gun handling. This is a hard pass for me, I'll stick to the scorpion g.
@@matthewpaine6908 cringe... ISU-152 is literally best tank in the game... it's fun ... and it's decently accurate... unless you use the shit guns and not the top one...
@@kajmak64bit76 Ya right, the Borsig with 15 cm gun is way better. Of Course the Borsig take more brains to play. If I want a Derpy 152 mm gun I will play the Su-152 or the Kv-2.
"isu152k is the highest alpha premium in the game"
703 II: *coughs*
Yeah the potential alpha of double barrelled tanks is crazy. ST-II has 880 potential alpha which you would only see on a TD
@Bob Joe no its 2x 440
Bob Joe 440 bud
S I n g l e s h o t
KV-2(R): Hello there
I'm serious when I say the more Russian tanks they put in the game the more I don't play.
Ok and?
But this one is actually balanced for a change
And russian players will be more dominant, more reasons to add russian tanks
And I won’t be playing to care
The soviet union designed,experimented and made far more tanks than almost every nation combined together after WW2. There are 100s of vehicles , especially the object series that arent in the game. There are many versions of the T55,T62,T54,T-10 and mbts that can be added into the game that would straight up make the chieftian look cute in terms of unbalanced
Premium borsig? Enters the “Iron rain”. Pretty glad it’s only on console tho 😂
The camo on the Iron Rain makes it as scary as a WFT E100 imo. Getting hit for 1,500 damage by something you cannot see is as scary as hell even in a tier 10 vehicle.
Its a 40 sec reload which is the only thing I dislike about it
@@paulmartin7378 aye but with the nerfs to the WFT E100 that happened recently it is useless a 1 min reload for something that won't even 1 shot most tanks is bs... i mean i would understand if they lowered the reload rate a bit to compensate but they didn't
@@scottmadsen9964the WT E100 was BROKEN for ye ars andd HAD to be changed
@@JAGtheTrekkieGEMINI1701 No it really wasn't lol it can be spotted across the map most of the time and it has paper armor with a 1 minute reload and that it on the light gun rofl it wouldn't be able to carry a game on the xbox period the only reason people are bitching about it is because of the fact it can wipe out 1 tank when you have 14 others just sitting waiting and counting the 5 shells it had until another 1 minute to reload considering that each battles only 15 mins you can imagine how op it must be when it spends half of the time reloading and the other half getting blown to shit by anything with a pea shooter
This is the perfect premium tank: worse than its normal counterpart/competition but still unique and will be fun to play
They will buff it if the first 100k will take more than 15 minutes to sell.
What comes next, bring back WTF E-100 as tier 8 soviet "captured" premium with the guns it had?
Btw it doesn't matter how big aiming bloom soviet tank has because Stalin guides shots to capitalist tanks.
E: When do they add BT-42 to sweden tech tree like they add finnish stuff on swedish in WT? It would increase sales in Finland.
Altho a meme... WT E 100 can't be made captured soviet premium... because it was never built so it cant be captured if it isnt built xd
Finland never really had any home built tanks. Just russian, British and german tanks with Finnish paintjobs.
Even the BT-42 was just a bt-7 with a British 4.5" howitzer mark II
Just try China Servers once...there u can buy the WT back as a tier 10 prem...for few golden bars... :D
@@Erowens98 At least they built turret...
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ahhh !!!! That was one of the fun tier 8 TDs in old days. And now WG want my money for it OMG !!!!!!
After so many years...now my fav prem tank in the game and maybe even overall. Currently working on three marking it.
Hey quickybaby did you know there’s a premium Borsig on console called the “iron rain” which has an auto loader... yeah scary times
I'll have to check that out sounds pretty cool
not to mention the other tier 8 auto loaders
Better question, hey quickybaby did you know that WWE themed tanks is currently the focus on console...yeah scary times
Even mine with 3100 DPM, full gold rounds, a premium consumable and a very experienced crew isn't overpowered. I hoped it would be but that gunhandeling absolutely destroys this tank. Even with improved rotation, it's very hard to hit your shots (if you don't want to be aiming for eternity). 3100 dpm doesn't matter when most of your shells miss. The only good games you'll have are the ones where RNG is in your favour.
funny how wargaming doesnt want 286 pen on t8 td but ok with 288mm on strv s1 and 286mm with isu 152k
At least the S1 has balanced alpha.
Well the apcr has 3 degrees less normalization and because of that it's harder to overmarch-pen (not complete overmatch) and easier to ricochet with it. Also The swedish tds have waaay less alpha and big guns overmatch it completely so i think it's rather well balanced.
The swedish tds focus on pen not alpha. But this new tank has high pen and high alpha....
Swedish TDs also only have 105mm. So they can only 3x overmatch armour plates thinner than 35mm.
@@Xiphactinus
And siege mode.
The double edged sword that is Siege mode is what really balances the S1. If you fire, get spotted, and arty eats you before you can move: game over.
Otherwise that pen would be flat out broken.
This thing can fire, drop 800+ damage with the same pen, and retreat instantly.
That's just plain broken. It absolutely will result in other players having their experience ruined.
A lucky shot from one of these things is essentially end of battle.
The little trade-off on the statistics side of things is very much worth it in my opinion.
0:12 you mean bringing back a gun deemed to be overpowered on a tank you didnt have to pay for
Someone had the smart idea to take away the only good thing about the regular isu 152 and transfer that gun from the tank destroyer to the k version, which has to be paid for.
really miss the minsk map
QB with all the respect I have for you but don't start with that shit that maybe this time WG is right. What those pimps at WG simply want is to fill their pockets. Removing the BL-10 was already a move for the future. It is and will always be a pay-to-win game ... big hug from PORTUGAL QB.
Speaking of a premium borsig there were plans to mount a 15cm on a Skorpion.
There was also the SU 152P, basically the SU 130PM with a 152mm.
Oh they removed the BL-10 from the standard ISU-152, damn haven't been on in a while so didn't know that. Looks like I'm coming back on to check how it is now a days
Welp, get ready to be premium spammed lol
I got this from the loot boxes and I love it. If you play it dumb and they catch you out of position, it's a rolling coffin. But shooting that God killer gun is the best feeling ever. But let me have this... I hardly had any premium tanks before this one.
Well they have bought back the T50-2 Old Hellcat now the old BL-10 so it looks like the Awful panther will be back soon
there was a time when the BL10 did 850 dmg, around the time when the kv2 was a tier 5 "grandpa cough"
5:49 him saying “tier” like that scares me
hm?
He said tier in an American sort of way
I too know this from Rammstein - I remember having the Sehnsucht album as a kid!
KV-2 (R) has 950 alpha at tier 6
7:12 4.43 accuracy, for when someone sneaks up behind you and you need to shoot backwards....
The talk in the middle of a premium Borsig gives me good vibes knowing on console I have a premium Borsig with a three round autoloader
oh my....an other Russian prem tank.....Never seen that coming...Even better.....WG took out a totally free to play gun, out of the game...NOW you have to pay for this gun with real money....Oooohh WG, plz never change !! But common.....Let's think about this for a moment......WG removed this gun from the game because it was to OP...and now they are justifying this gun by changing the platform... I THINK you must be pretty dumb stupid to fall for this and buy this...TD
Nope
People will still buy it because P2W. Also, 'taking out a good gun then making it a premium', have you heard of T-28E F-30?
This premium isu its worse than Tech tree isu.What are you fucking talking about?Only advantage its 26 more pen at ap and 39 at gold rounds
@@CrossriderBankai23 yes
Staw222 Doesn’t fucking matter. What if the bl10 was someone’s favourite gun? It got removed for being op? Well then fair enough, but now WG spit in the face of every fucking player who loved the bl10 by making you pay real money for it. Wargaming is a fucking joke.
Ah, fab to get stuck into a proper tank review. Also, I am happy to see the honkin' BL-10 back at tier VIII. Sadly, I never got a chance to use it on the ISU-152 but I saw my brother use it. It was always funny to see someone get donked for 750 avg. dmg. It will be interesting to see the impact the tank has on the matchmaker.
Fab video as always.
Literally copy and paste with few adjustments :\
Nerfs 'OP' Tier 8 tanks
Brings it back as a Premium
Profit
Wargaming: I love money
A balanced soviet premium!? Jingles mentioned there would be another soviet premium soon
I finally just finished my 600th battle in the ISU-152k and I have to say it works best in the cities if you have a heavy supporting you
Well its ok, BUT i would love to have new map instead of new premium tank...
ISU always had BL10 in blitz... when maxed out it has 300mm AP pen with around 13 seconds reload time. Although it’s only 640 alpha
Plz make a 15v15 game of KV-2s, I would love the derpyness fun🙏
Any tank that has big alpha damage can be played in close combat. When you pack such a punch you can trade your HP to get a shot out and still have an OK battle.
jingles the another day that they have 28 premium t8 russian tanks. They are more than the entire polish line of tanks
And another OP pos like the ISU-152....now i understand why their playerbase is diminishing every day.
It’s a russian game. WoT isn’t made with NA and EU players in mind. Russians love to buy up russian premiums, so WG gives them what they want. Russians don’t really care about swedish premiums or Chinese light tank buffs.
Best way for me to play this is as a sniper… albeit a little difficult at times, I can take huge chunks of health from enemy tanks I then move on to another tank with high health and leave the lower health tank for my team mates to get because they have a higher ROF. In other words focus on high health tanks take 1/3-1/2 their hit points let your team mates mop up
It has a LOG immediately better in every way.
Add the improved aiming , takes it to .37 dispersion. Then factor in that everyone will shoot premium ammo because you want to get the best bang for your buck and not have ricochets, I can see why you'd want this in your garage.
Would actually love to see the SU-122-54 back in the game instead....
We have a premium borsig on console. It is an 3 shot auto loader with the Scorpion G's gun. Called the iron rain.
WZ-111 1 G ft: Finally a worthy opponent our battle will be legendary
😂
Actually I like the fact destroyed objects can block ur vision. It makes it not just a visual issue but in fact creates a game feature.
What I dont like is that it can be switched off.
Yeah wargaming has started to release more balanced tanks im glad that they are because this may save the game.
Aint gonna save it with arty still in the game
/s
@@spooky694 Artillery will always be a neverending debate with players. WG has already said to the community that they will NOT remove them because they have to be apart of the game otherwise, you destroy a part of the game's strategy. That is just something you have to live with. I used to get angry with arty, but all it takes is some map awareness and some of that "W key" to not get hit directly (if you do it right).
I luv mine, just kills scouts and mediums, using the 2 new armour buffs, crew is essential, after 4 perks the gun gets better.
I sent the following ticket to Wargaming:
- It is absurd and unacceptable to nerf the ISU 152 by decreasing its penetration and then launching a premium tank - ISU 152 K - with the penetration that the player had in his original tank. I am embarrassed to ask what is evident: Do you realize that you treat the player like a sucker? It is evidently an irrational conduct, and harmful to the game; revolting, which will drive players away, who will then look for another game ... This can be done in a less covert, more honest and clear way, as follows: after the modification, the next time the player clicks on the tank in your garage, would show a message: "Your tank has been nerfed. Now, to be able to get your penetration back, just buy your similar premium that we just launched." If the player complains, you can say: "That's right, we treat you like a sucker. Do you know all those hours you spent to get this tank, to improve it, to learn to play with it, to train your crew? That money you spend to speed up your training? Its over. If it was getting harder to play with ISU 152 due to the appearance of new tanks, mostly premiums, it’s over now: we’ve turned your tank into a butt and it’s not worth playing with. To recover, just spend more money on this new ISU 152K tank. Be a fool and do it because it's worth it ". I hope you understand that this type of conduct is not part of the game. Want to nerf a tank? that is for the next to be acquired, those in the garage must remain unchanged... I really hope that this attitude will change. I appreciate the attention.
It's pretty evident that wg doesn't give 2 shots about non paying players
You can have the BL-10 back...but only if you have the shitty gun handling of the ISU-152K and return to 1,010 HP instead of 1,200. Still want it?
I definitely prefer greater penetration
almost exactly 7 years ago on the 16th of may 2013 you uploaded the original review of this td. back then it was a unique op gun at tier 8. today it doesn't stand out anymore. sometimes I wish WoT would go back to its good old days.
This is why I think im done with WOT. Its been a good 7 years. But getting tired of pay to win and broken mechanics.
not sure how this is pay to win when its worse in every way other than pen to the tier 8 tech tree tank
@@ColorHawk_ cough cough Type 59, gold ammo, Chrysler k, LT 432, etc etc
Im down with WOT now. Wargaming have finally over done it.
@@Thejohnhartnett628 Chysler h pay to win xD?its shit and pay to loose more
@@szofer8488 Because you probably suck, it's OP as hell
"hope that rng saves you" the best line that made my day LOL
It's nice to see WG making a balanced premium tank once in a while :)
TheRealCarlos lol almost all German premiums are ‘balanced’
Got this in a Christmas box yesterday, it hits like a truck. No it hits like a Train! People sit out in front of me and wow what a hit!
Ah yes, slap a single letter on existing tanks, idiots will buy
And defend it
Historical, the original ISU 152 had the bl 10 as its main gun. Since it's released, it was never nerf till the released of the defender tier 8 tank. Then remove it and come back few years later. I'm seeing an algorithm here. Same thing is gonna happen with the su 122 54.
i dont normally argue with your videos but for once i think you have this all wrong QB, WG are clearly after a cash grab with this tank, take a tank away then give us it back worse than what it was ? i simply dont agree with these tactics, what we need are more maps, and yes i understand berlin is coming but like pretty much 90% of all other maps its likely to be filled with corridors which force you down a route to brawl with people, im also a light tank player and had quite alot of fun fulfilling that role, but now im forced to work my way up the EBR line because why wouldnt you ? they are simply better in everyway, now if i dont do my job as a light i get shouted at by the team, how am i supposed to deal with a 90-95kph wheeled vehicle that can auto-aim and snap HE shells into me while i have to try and physically aim at him ? its utter bullshit to be honest, wargaming need to quit adding new vehicles and think about some tanks that need love from the very first implemented tech trees
Im on maximum render distance and i still can't find who the fuck asked
You know power creep is real when a gun that was deemed OP can be added back
Why tf is every body so salty man, I have played the game for 6 years and this is just another tank we will just have to deal with, just think about getting behind it in a light tank haha
they should make a premium version of the borsig with better hp per ton for sure lol
Im so glad I quit on this game… love QB tho
>getting hit for 750 at T8 isn't fun, premium TDs shouldn't be allowed to do that
Meanwhile American arty casually deals 500+ damage a shot to heavies
In a few updates they'll just remove everything not Russian
So after catching up about the changes they made to WoT since I stopped playing and watching a few great videos of you QB. I realize I don't want to come back to playing the game as it is a lot of fun indeed, but the pay-to-win aspect is still much to strong with it. The day they remove gold ammo and implement fun game modes more consistently, is the day I will come back.
The RNG, the extremely underpowered stock vehicles, the gold ammo, the lack of fun game modes and the punishing you get from arty is a heartbreak.
New day, new Russian premium tank. Also continuing the time honoured tradition of re-releasing removed OP tanks as premiums.
imagine thinking the ISU is OP and imagine thinking this is a better version of the tech tree tank
But now it's balanced so does it matter?
@@ColorHawk_ Can't take a joke can you? I was referring to cases like the Pz IV. A OP tank pre 7-5 in 2012, reworked and later on released as an uptiered premium medium. Scummy way of marketing, but what can you expect from WG.
@@lehtokurppa7824 that really wasn't a joke. It looks the same as everyone else who is actually crying about everything WG does and the context for said "joke" is very arbitrary
11:32 Damn, just listen to that 702 Version two fire his double shot XD
Everyone: Why is the tanks gun called K?
Everyone getting killed by it easily:...k
How much do you think it will cost ?
And will it be a good credit maker ?
AAAAAAANDD another russian tank!
no russian, tank is ussr
@@Игорь-т5ь3н ....What's the difference?
Of course this is not Belarus's tank.
@@Kijby The difference being that USSR consists of many republics, it is just as much Ukrainian, Belorussian, Georgian, Azerbaijanian etc tank as it is Russian.
@@megalamanooblol I know the difference, but then where did 'russian bias' or 'soviet russia' came from?
Everybody think russia first(sad fact?)when someone say USSR.
Just call it russian, not USSR or soviet.
@@Kijby Just because masses are stupid, does not mean you have to repeat it.
The accuracy on this tank is pretty good when fully aimed, even compares to STRV on long range.
I stopped playing wows after almost 4 years of playing daily because of the stupidly unbalanced (and mostly russian lol) ships they kept adding to the game. Switched to wot where I expected more fun. What a fool, they're still run by the same company lmao
Now they added Soviet submarines which are stupidly OP because of their repair consumable and torpedoes at the front *AND* at the back of the submarine.
Perfectly balanced, komrade ))))
Wot p2w
Now wows better than wot and wows more balanced than wot I've been playing wot for 7 years and 2 years for wows
Moskva not very good. kremlin a bit strong but smolensk is really very strong I know
The iron rain on console is a 3 shot autoloading borsig with a 1,450dmg clip/mag. But I’m not sure this counts as huge alpha dmg as a tier 8 tank
i literally got here and i said that there was 0 views
And now we know when it's coming back, in the Christmas loot boxes of course.
Next sales pitch at WG HQ
WG employee: what if we took type 4/5 heavies and sell them as premiums with pre-nerfed armor and HE derp guns?
WG Boss: DA comrade put tanks in shop!
But nooo, they could counter russian tanks ,niet
it is just like the t-28 with f-30. In the beginning the f30 gun was available when WoT was first released.
ISU was (and still is) my most played tank in the game. IDK how I managed to do it but I have 12k games in it.
It made no sense for me to go to tier 9/10, until they removed the BL-10 from it.
I ended up buying the tank, thanks for your review QuickyBaby.
$65AUD but well worth it... First game i had, Mastery Badge, High Caliber, 5 Kills, 6k damage haha
ISU used to be my favorite and I have done extremely well in it. I think 59% win in it but the Chinese tier viii premium TD is my new favorite now.
Was hoping for this video, thanks.
In console there is a auto loading borsig called the iron rain 4 shot auto loader
It always shined at the end when everyone is damaged.
They should've saved this for 2021's Well Deserved Reward. The fact that they didn't makes me wonder what their plans are for the future.
You mentioned the problem in your bulk premium tank review a few months back - since Skorpion and Defender there was an apparent paradigm shift in WG regarding premiums. Now you can pull your credit card, wait a few weeks for premium offers and buy yourself into the game. Why would you even level low tiers - or high tiers for that matter? Tier 8 is the sweet spot where the fun is and all game mechanics are accessible. Back when you had just T34 , Lowe and IS-6 there was so much to explore. Now... want a Maus, hard-hitting TD, autoloader, autoreloader or a wheelie? Just do it! Every playstyle at your Visa's reach. The only thing not in the game yet is tier 8 premium arty. I'd love to see how many people actually would buy this sort of thing lol
the main thing that i hated from them removing the BL-10 was not the pen it was the fact that the ISU didn't look as cool lol
I love my iron rain and I would love to add another ISU-152 variant 2 my garage
Usually in blitz, it's on tech tree not a premium
260 pen is plenty for a tier 8 TD. I think it's still almost the highest number. I think the Udes has 268. The normal ISU is better.
UDES has 288, just like Strv S1. The downside of both swedes is the gun calibre.