Ex-Polygamist Reacts to "Sister Wives" Season 9
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Robyn saying they the children weren’t excited enough for the first baby announcement is the most irritating narrative she was able to perpetuate imo. He had a pretty normal reaction for a teenager who lived through poverty in a large family and just got ripped from his hometown and friends and had absolutely no say in the matter. Expecting teenagers to have adult-level empathy when their brains aren’t fully cooked makes zero sense and is such an unfair expectation to put on them. 29:58
Robyn takes, takes, and takes from the family and then demands people treat her like a princess. She is so entitled. From the beginning, Robyn consistently isolated herself & her kids from the larger family. We saw her reject Christine's offers to parent with her. In recent seasons, we saw how Robyn *never* contacted Meri - no texting, no visits - but Robyn sure put on a show about wanting Meri to "hang on" with her.
Princess Robyn needs to learn the world does not revolve around her. What you put into relationships is what you get out of them. And that explains why Kody and Robyn destroyed this family.
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You have had such a respectful commentary on the entire series. It is very much appreciated.
The divorce was not for the kids. It was so Robyn could get assets and get rid of Meri. The kid thing was an excuse. That's why Robyn wanted to have another ceremony.
It must have been so hard for Meri to have had so many sister wives with children, and she had fertility issues.
I agree. 😢
Sam I think it will be really cool to have a book out there from the male perspective. There are a lot of great books by women who have left the FLDS, but I am excited to read your book.
Flash forward: R AND K have been spotted going out to eat on the day that just happens to be the day their marriage was legalized
…… but it’s just a paperwork Shuffle🙃
They got dressed up and were like two school kids when they met up at the court house. It wasn't a paper shuffle
The catfish was a friend of Robyn’s friend. What else was behind the scenes?
I didn’t know that! Wow!
I think Christine was struggling so much with jealousy because she had such a strong belief that polygamy could work and everyone be happy and equal in it. When her reality didn’t meet her expectations, it crushed her.
Later on, we find out that Kody had not been intimate with Meri for a few years by the time she got involved with the catfish.
I think he was willing to act like they had a functional marriage in front of the cameras. He changed his tune once the catfish leaked photos, voice messages and details about the relationship with Meri.
It was a huge blow to Kody's ego. He said that Meri planned to leave him for a man who was "better looking" and "richer".
He had also by then melted down his wedding ring telling Meri he no longer wanted her to "have control over" him.
Leon overheard conversations between Meri and "Sam." Leon was very angry about how inappropriate Meri was. So, it seemed Leon thought Meri was going to leave Kody for "Sam."
Gaaaaaaa! K&M had stopped thier marriage BEFORE Robin... came along. She was supposed to be the gift to K so he would love her again
Exactly-he melted down his wedding ring before the show even started!
So you're telling me humans are not like chicken? ...one never stops learning I guess
Don’t worry . . . You’re going to be hearing about the “Catfish Situation” for the next 2-3 seasons. Also, just so you know, it’s pronounced “TELL-all (as if it was one word).” Not “tell ALL.” Bc nobody would EVER tell ALL. 🙈🙉🙊😉 Love listening and watching you guys . . . I grew up and was friends with a LOT of LDS members, so hearing you talk about some of the same things they did is kinda fun! ❤
About the church name, a documentary on the Centennial Park group from 2013 showed a baptismal service and they used The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints when they laid hands on and confirmed the children after. I wondered about this for years!
Meri never had a Spritual Re-marriage after the divorce so that is a big deal, Kody was divorced in his mind from Meri since they signed the papers.
I had a few experiences with observing a name and a blessing being given to older children in the mainstream LDS Church. First when I converted in my 20s I had 2 sons at the time who were an infant and a toddler. They were not immediately given this blessing, but about 2 years later our home teacher did. At the time of my baptism I was in the middle of a divorce from their dad. He was very much against any church belief in Jesus, so this blessing was not given until well after the divorce was finalized and I had full custody. I also remember another convert family in the same ward that the father gave a name a blessing to each of his children after he and his wife were baptized and confirmed. The children were ages 4 to 16 at the time. The kids old enough to be baptized were baptized later than their parents after they had been in primary and young women's ( respective to their ages ) and had "gained a testimony of their own", which was within about 3 to 10 months, with the teenage daughter being the last. This was the parents idea to allow the children time to decide for themselves when they were ready to be baptized and not to allow them to be pressured to get baptized at the same time as the parents just because the parents chose it. The parents led the way rather than forcing it. Sadly the teen daughter was made to have weekly worthiness interviews with a bishop who was very creepy and I do believe that was part of the longer delay in her baptism. He often made her abstain from Sacrament and would reference " youth being too impure and unholy to partake " from the pulpit just before the Sacrament was blessed and passed. He would say " before we Bless and pass the Sacrament let me just say to certain members of our youth, you know who you are, let me remind you that you are to remain in the sanctuary and not partake of the sacrament because of your unpure and unholy sinful ways, and let it be an example and a reminder to all that we must keep our covenants and obey the law of chastity". I wàs this family's visiting teacher and this teen girl was dating a boy from outside the church who she has been dating for close to a year. They were known to kiss. Her dad was very strict and they were always chaperoned but after she turned 16 and prior to the family taking discussions the dad had allowed the boyfriend to give his daughter a goodbye peck after a date. The bishop didn't allow this girl to be baptized until after she agreed to not date this boy anymore. I thought him terribly unfair in his treatment of this girl and looking back much of what he did as a Bishop "went on my shelf", especially how he treated her. I was still new to the church and had moved to this ward about 2 months after being baptized myself so I had no point of reference to know if this was normal. Looking back I wonder if I would have joined if I had witnessed this Bishop's behavior on my first visit to an LDS service. I can't say for sure what I would have done. I would certainly have asked questions about it, but don't know if the missionaries or someone else would have given me a satisfactory explanation I could accept or not.
In the same ward there was also a family that adopted a child through LDS social services. She was around 5 at the time and her adoptive father did give her a name and blessing. She had come from an LDS home born " in the covenant" but now she was in this new family with a new last name, so she was given a name and blessing. In her case and in the case of another family that adopted a baby. The name and blessing was given when the child was placed in the home, but they had to wait until the adoption was finalized ( 6 months later according to state law ) before they could go to the temple to have the child sealed to them. I have lived in 4 states ( in the south and north east, where Mormonism is very uncommon and most people and churches would call it a cult, and to my understanding some practices in the church are very different from Utah and the surrounding states ) Later as an LDS and in a different state I saw one other convert family give a name and blessing to older children, but it was only to the ones too young to be baptized with the rest of the family at the time of their conversion. I know that the parents who did this ( and especially the Dad's using their new priesthood authority) felt a very strong need to do this and in so doing include all their children in the new faith of their family. They also had a strong sense of pride in this being their way to publicly introduce the ward members to their children and express a sense of who each child was spiritually.
I specifically recall the father of the teen girl saying what a "good, modest and obedient spirit she was and had always been" and instructing her to "always continue to follow the promptings and moral compass Heavenly Father had instilled in her from birth" It's honestly the only name and blessing I remember the words so well because I was happy this dad had said it in the way of telling the congregation his daughter was a good girl, no matter what the bishop said. I was proud of him for doing that. I know it took courage and you could see on the Bishop's face he knew it was to combat his shaming of this girl and he didn't like it. The Bishop was also not one of the men invited to participate in this blessing or that of any of the kids in that family. Surprisingly ( to me anyway) this entire family still remain TBM 30 years later, all 5 kids have temple marriages to kids from the same ward. Most astonishingly the teen girl is sealed to that Bishop's son, who I might add is a very kind and caring man and not at all creepy like his parents were. He was always different than them. The 2 married after mission and moved far away. They don't involve his parents in the grand kid's lives, but do involve hers. Something I find quite telling.
It was interesting to hear Sam’a experience and having it compared to Maddie’s experience in trying to join the church.
The catfish thing is a huge mess. Lots of strange stuff that made it look like Meri was targeted. They never fully address the situation to the point of covering what is learned outside the show.
5:33 Every broken clock is right twice in 24hrs. So, as weird as it may seem to agree with Cody you have to give him his just due when he is right. Recorded moments of Cody actually being in the right are very few and far between. You can't deny him when is happens, you gotta give it to him, but you don't have to do it cheerfully. If I had to acknowledge it publicly. I would do it as grudgingly as I could without getting myself into trouble, to make it very clear that I do not like having to admit to him, that he's right. As rarely as it is for him to be in the right, I would have to almost choke on every word of admission that I'm wrong, andCody's in the right of way.. 😆 🤣
Very excited to read the book in the future and to see more of your sisterwives reviews!
The audio being split to one person per side is somewhat frustrating to listen to, especially with headphones 😢
We are sorry about the audio splitting. We didn't realize the issue with headphones and will try to fix it for future videos. Thanks!
Congrats on the book! I know it's not finished but just getting started in such a project is already an achievement by itself, wishing you the best on the process.
It was never revealed in the show, but one of your fellow podcaster's interviewed some folks from the AUB specifically about the Browns and in particular Robin. That person revealed a lot including that the catfisher was a set up and she was allegedly an actual friend of a friend of Robin's who asked her to target Meri to knock her off Cody's pedastal after she so generously gave the divorce. Again this was an allegation made by a member of the AUB who had nothing good to say about Robin. She also revealed that at the time of Robin's sons ATV accident that on the show they said he was out of town ATVing with friends and then on the show during the whole divorce scenario they made it sound like it was his Biological father's fault, when in reality he was with Cody when he had the accident. The ER records were somehow leaked showing that. It was just an accident not to blame Cody or anyone, but in the show they bring up the accident being when he was ATVing out of town with others in the context of conversation about his biological dad and why they were so desperate to have Cody adopt the kids so if anything happened to Robin the kids wouldn't go back to their biological father. The interviewee was undeniably pro- biological dad and anti- Robin, so we must question the truthfulness of her allegations, but the ER report explained who was with Dayton so at least that allegation is substantiated with evidence, and the way it is presented on the show repeatedly nearly every season since the accident is intentionally misleading at best.
spoiler alert ... once Kody met Robyn he DUMPED all the other wives .... as we find out in other seasons that is when the real disconnect and favoritism began. The hurried move to Las Vegas, the establishment of separate households, favoring one wife over the others (as an audience we watched it all happen and could not understand why they did not seem to see it themselves). We know now that they played and acted the roles that were written for them to get around the Kody/Robyn marriage being monogamous.
Thank you for your insights! Question?
Before Robin joined the family, they were all in agreement on maintaining and respecting the equalities distributed between each wife. HOWEVER when Robin joined and we now know, they all knew who he truly loved and the iniquities. Such didst resemble in any way how he felt toward janelle christine and Meri.
With your vast experience, How are the Wives supposed to live with this reality? Thank you.
I signed up to support you on Patreon. Looking forward to seeing it develop!
Sam, it depends on the species 😆 Trumpeter swans are famously monogamous, but no, not chickens lol
The catfisher had an accomplice and had a masculine sounding voice.
I had a friend who was returning to church and had her kids blessed at around 6 and 8 years old. Thankfully they ate no longer a party of the organization and the mom is supportive of her trans kid instead :)
I am main steam LDS and My friend adopted a 5 year old and blessed him at the adoption dinner. From what I understand, you can be given a name and Blessing into the church until you are 8 years old. If you are you become a member of the church at 8 years or older, you join through baptism.
I don’t know if it’s my phone but Sam’s voice comes through my speaker on my phone and Melissa’s voice comes through the earpiece of my phone. I can only fully hear if I wear headphone. 😢
Robyn is the adult, putting expectations on children that is not acceptable at all!!! Robyn is trying to make them dismiss their feelings and thoughts, in Therapy you get to own your feelings and thoughts and they are VALID!!!
The “middle wives” didn’t get big weddings and I think Robin knew she wasn’t going to get one either… she she pitches it as “for the kids” and “to involves everyone and bring them together” so that she can get her big wedding. She’s been manipulating from the beginning
Christine is constantly trying to prove she's supportive of Robyn to please Kody. That's why she's contantly excessively poisitive towards her in this time period. (Hence being supportive of legal marriage.) Zero chance Kody and Robyn don't secretly celebrate their legal marriage.
Kody and Robyn knew they were entering Monogamy at the Marriage! It is his most intimate moment no other wife ever had! Kody was not sharing the legal marriage with anyone but Robyn because it eas so intimate neaning and there was no way he was going to out any attention to any other wife!
This is all so interesting to me because my great grandmother was Mormon. In regards to the move from mainstream LDS to polygamy, what even makes that appealing? I can understand why people in polygamy and very strict rules would want to leave to the mainstream LDS but I can't fathom the other way around.
In Meri’s story about catfishing… it will come (out after Meri left Kody). The catfishing was a set up by Robyn & a niece or cousin for that person to contact Meri.. Meri will make several comments in the season 7 that you will watch next about how “Sam”seems to know too much about her. That she wonders if there is a bug in her house. Ya a big black lying bug named Robyn!!!! Robyn’s way of manipulating Kody to stop seeing Meri. Some of this info may have come from Meri’s Social Media in the last couple of years since she left. 💜
Kody bringing Janelle into the marriage without Meri’s blessing was a violation of the Fundamental LDS beliefs from my understanding and Janelle had been married to Meri’s brother Adam no wonder Meri wasn’t inviting 🤷🏼♀️ that was a no win situation from the beginning 😢 Kody set them up for failure from day one 🤬
How come her mike Is always more loud and clear? It's hard to hear what Sam is saying 😢
It sounds normal on my device
I think it's just cause Sam is a bit taller and further from the mic.
Sounds normal to me on my end too
I was having some weirdness with my sound too!
It sound like they don't record in surround sound? She's obviously my right and he's on my left, it is a little annoying
8:51 it's like Cody wanted to present the best example of a righteous polygamous family as he could for public consumption. I feel like he wanted to be like the "Big Love" family.. He wanted to have the older attractive 1st wife, and the younger super obedient 2nd wife tgat came from a prominent polygamous pioneer background with the super respected name that the mainstream LDS would recognize immediately . And finally the youngest, and probably the most attractive (to Cody) of all the other wives. Making her the perceived, and probably the actual "favorite wife" of all,l three.
Making it look like all of the wives were happy with the newest addition to the family. With all of the wives welcoming Robin and her children with open arms. While they had to watch Robin get everything she wanted,; like Robin getting t5ge biggest house ,and more of Cody's time than everyone else. Also having to watch Cody give more of his time to Robin's kids that he adopted,. While he spent less, and less time with his actual biological kids with his 1st three wives. It wasn't fair to his other wives because Stevie Wonder could see which one is Cody's favorite wife. 😎😂
I saw baby blessings many times in the Philippines for children that were under the age of eight. I don’t know if it was proper or not. I also saw it a few times for families who were reactivated where I grew up in Idaho. They didn’t call it a baby blessing they called the father‘s blessingand they did give the name and all that stuff
When you talk about PR and religion is interesting. When you look at history European and English in particular the church was a major factor on murders (bloody Mary and Henry the VIII) governments and who would be in favour based on who the priesthood... nothing has really changed!
She went and her hair done to “shuffle paperwork”? So not a big deal.
Sam, yet again, I can barely hear you!
I feel bad for Preston he obviously loved his children but it seems like he was bullied into allowing the adoption and I feel for Meri you can see the pain in her eyes over the divorce, she was a prime target for a person to catfish her 😢 it’s so sad to watch and it turns out Robyn has ties to the person who Catfished Meri I always felt Robyn set Meri up to drive a wedge between Meri and Kody 😢 but she continued to just suck it up because that was what was expected to o💔😢💔
Christine was the 3rd Wife as We all know, Re; the Jealousy, Its what She seen In K eyes when He looked at Robin and the energy around that is what was hard for Her to accept..., They still don't tell You to much next season about the Cat fishing, but that is definitely where K ends it all with Mary and everything eles They do together to try to fix Their relationship, He is check out and a terrible actor...
Well personally, I think all of this was planned by Cody because yes him and Mary didn’t have a great relationship so by divorcing her and Maria Robin so he could adopt the kids made it easier for Cody to step away but she wanted to in my thing is her talking to somebody on the line. It’s not like she met him in person and cheated on him. I just think she’s using that as an excuse. I just don’t think he ever really wanted a relationship with Mary. I think he’s just doing all it is and even the sister wives being on TV I think Cody just did that so he could get money my opinion personally, I think he’s a dog.❤
The thought of a church requiring a potential new member to be required to denounce their family is really disturbing to me 😢 plus I think it’s hypocritical to say that considering LDS teach that they will be polygamous in heaven and one of the original teachings was Polygs in the first place 😢 it’s just hypocritical IMO 🤬😢it makes me so thankful for the fact my parents didn’t raise me in organized religion they felt it was important to raise me with Christian values but they wanted me to be able to make my own choice about church when I was old enough to make the right decision for myself when the day came.
Do you think that Maddie was female made a difference? Wouldn't bringing in a male convert be more "important" than bringing in a female?
It seemed like the FLDS and LDS churches are able to draw people in on the pretense of the built in community and eternal family which the family is a moot point for me since you are going to be reunited with your family in heaven when your day comes anyway … those of us who are raised in mainstream Christianity aren’t raised to believe there are multiple levels of Heaven we’re raised with the concept of Heaven or Hell 😢❤