An Ideal Mixer Audio Interface for the Dawless Musician. Zoom Livetrack L 12 First Impressions

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  • Опубликовано: 16 янв 2021
  • In this video, I talk about the options available for tracking and mixing a multiple synth setup for the everyday dawless musician, and also my first impressions of the Zoom Livetrack L 12 after using it for the past few weeks.
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  • @oyoyoyo7624
    @oyoyoyo7624 3 года назад +45

    I’d love a follow up on the zoom livetrack after 6 months of use. Thanks for sharing your knowledge!

    • @RababaInc
      @RababaInc 2 года назад +4

      i second this. currently debating between a big audio interface like the scarlett 18i8 or a mixer/interface like the livetrak l12

    • @symbiat0
      @symbiat0 2 года назад +6

      I’m also curious to know how this compares with the Tascam Model 12 (which has MIDI and complete DAW integration too)…

    • @MichaelDaniels
      @MichaelDaniels Год назад

      Where is the follow up video? I would like to see this

  • @patrickhowes5833
    @patrickhowes5833 3 года назад +5

    Very helpful. I bought one of these specifically because of this video, and I'm very happy with the L-12. Thank you!

    • @MidlifeSynthesist
      @MidlifeSynthesist  3 года назад +1

      That’s awesome! I’m glad this was helpful! See you around!

  • @patrizio7
    @patrizio7 3 года назад +58

    Would love an in depth review of the H6

    • @Drakkarsh
      @Drakkarsh 3 года назад +2

      Yes please

    • @erichutchinsws
      @erichutchinsws 3 года назад +1

      I’ve just gotten into synths and groove boxes recently and purchased the H6. Now going to order the add on for the extra two inputs. Would love a decent H6 overview from a synth/dawless perspective

    • @SPC-tl4iu
      @SPC-tl4iu 3 года назад

      La h6 no sieve como interface , they have a lot noise,,

    • @pakovbasyuk
      @pakovbasyuk 3 года назад +1

      im joining wait list

    • @midiminion6580
      @midiminion6580 3 года назад

      Just got one of these already and love it.

  • @heidrunklein4410
    @heidrunklein4410 3 года назад

    i was looking so long for a video like this, simple explanations and the perfect answer to all my questions about what interface to get. thanks a lot for that

  • @LunchBandit
    @LunchBandit Год назад +8

    We need a Zoom L12 vs Tascam Model 12 video. I have the Tascam 12 and while it does everything I need, it's got a pretty steep learning curve. I still have no clue how to get a stereo mix to my headphones lol.

  • @somebodysomeone8213
    @somebodysomeone8213 3 года назад +6

    Zoom is AWESOME! I've owned the B3 & R8 for years. Great tools.

  • @Doxadelly
    @Doxadelly 2 года назад

    This was very helpful and answered all my questions about multiple-instruments, headsets, recording, special effects, and more. Thank you!

  • @jonasness
    @jonasness 3 года назад +14

    I've been using the L-12 for my live synth sessions on RUclips and for shows for the past 2 years now and it's been amazing and a lot of fun to use. For live shows I was switching scenes for different mixes in-between songs, but I stopped doing that because it pauses the audio while switches between saves and gets kind of annoying. But yeah, so great for RUclips where I just record everything to the SD card and then sync the audio to my video footage. I have 8 DSI / Sequential synths hooked up to it and I only run short on inputs if I use individual outs from my Tempest, but that's an easy work around. However, major problem happened last week... my Livetrak L-12 blew up!!! Crazy stuff! I was just connecting the XLR cables from the Master Out to my KRK studio monitors and out of nowhere a huge fireworks show went off from the mixer. It's totally fried and the boards and ribbon cables inside are all charred up and frayed. I contacted Zoom about it, sent them photos and they told me to send it in for a new one, free of charge. They said they've never heard of that happening before. Either way, total bummer since I was in the middle of making a new RUclips video to show the new Firmware update for my DSI - OB-6 and I'll be without a mixer for a while, but so rad that Zoom is taking care of the situation and sending me a new unit. But yeah, I also totally recommend it for synth users who don't use a computer. I did the quick mod of using the headphone jacks for aux effects on my Strymon Big Sky and it works great, just takes a little finesse to get that dialed in right.

    • @sinepilot
      @sinepilot 2 года назад +1

      I heard the L-12 isn't so good for live performance, I'd really like to hear how you feel about it now after some more experience. 🙂

  • @xirtus
    @xirtus 2 года назад +3

    Grown to appreciate your reviews particularly out of other reviewers. You have become a fav. Keep doing it.

    • @MidlifeSynthesist
      @MidlifeSynthesist  2 года назад

      Thank you so much! I am both honored and humbled🙏🏼 I’ll keep doing my best brother, see you soon!

    • @xirtus
      @xirtus 2 года назад

      @The Midlife Synthesist by the way, haven't seen you do any vocoder with the microfreak, did you get the updates? I've never seen so many new features in a synth as an update.

  • @wireheadinstruments
    @wireheadinstruments 3 года назад

    Thanks - this mixer was exactly what I have been looking for my dawless setup and this review was also exactly what I needed to see it in a synth studio setting. Timing smiled on me I snapped up a used one 2 weeks after watching your video. It's only day 2 but loving the UI & onboard multitrack recording. the onboard reverbs aren't that nice to my ears - very metallic and grainy, but that's not a huge problem. time to get a nightsky :)
    Really enjoying your channel, thanks and keep 'em coming!

  • @WildernessMusic_GentleSerene
    @WildernessMusic_GentleSerene 3 года назад +4

    You are in for many years of uninterrupted recording sessions. No, you won't find any problems unless you want ultra-resolution higher than 24/96. For the musician/engineer the LIveTrack is the ONLY recorder with metering per track. Anyone who doesn't think that is a GIGANTIC advantage over any other recorder, hasn't been recording very long. Discovered this studio scenario 8 years ago with a ZoomR24 (livetracks were not a thought in Zoom's head) I have been recording without a computer and never have a latency or error problem in all the 8 years. My Zoom has NEVER failed me, this means zero troubleshooting during creative times. The Zoom has changed my life, since going 100% hardware; 70 albums recorded; previously with a DAW, zero albums. AND...if I ever want to post process a finished song...USB transfer of all tracks to a DAW in standard WAV. This is the only way musicians should be recording.

    • @MidlifeSynthesist
      @MidlifeSynthesist  3 года назад

      Dude! That is EXACTLY what I was hoping for with this!! Friggin awesome! Thanks so much for sharing your experience my friend, it’s gonna be fun times for sure✌🏻

    • @WildernessMusic_GentleSerene
      @WildernessMusic_GentleSerene 3 года назад

      @@MidlifeSynthesist Just remembered, I never use the Zoom built in effects or processors, did not like the sound of them on my R24......BUT....I just purchased three Zoom MS70cdr effects pedals this year for the axillary loops of my mixers because they sounded so good. Hopefully those effects will come in the LiveTrack series. If yes, my gosh, that will be a good mixer/recorder. Please let us know what you think of the compressor and effects if you have the time for another video some day.

  • @jacobbases
    @jacobbases 3 года назад +4

    Dawless is a word that fails it users most times, this mixer is performance oriented.
    You do a good job explaining this and I'm not criticizing your use, just how ambiguous the word has become.

  • @ieroen
    @ieroen 3 года назад +2

    This channel is such a nice find! Well made video, great presentation and very informative. Great job. Looking forward to more content!

  • @LukeLendrum
    @LukeLendrum 3 года назад +2

    I absolutely love my H6 and see the L12 as the only logical upgrade.
    Great video.

  • @lamasteve6905
    @lamasteve6905 3 года назад +6

    Record, compressor each track, w/t effects, hit the chip and then into the box for the finish. Anything needing to be rerecorded, hit the interface direct into the daw with plugins ! Better price than most interfaces, recording without computer ahhh ! Leaving the eng to monitor the room and help in the music more ! More complication in the studio is a looser, ease of use is a winner !

  • @Individual_two
    @Individual_two 3 года назад +1

    Zoom makes some great stuff. I have used my Zoom Q8 camera to video and record gigs and it works great. The portable audio recorders like the H6 are great, too. I have been drooling over the L12 mixer for a while now and it is on my list.

  • @waleedbanjar3050
    @waleedbanjar3050 3 года назад +3

    Been using it for almost 6 month now, i have the L8 and L12, by far i cant imagine my setup without it now.

  • @dkijc
    @dkijc 3 года назад

    loved your delivery. thank you

  • @SUPERCLUBVIDEO
    @SUPERCLUBVIDEO 3 года назад +5

    I’ve had the L8 and for a couple months, love it so far. I wish it had compressor knobs on it too. 😌

  • @FrankyGun
    @FrankyGun 3 года назад

    After watching hundreds of reviews on different options late 2019 I ended up buying the L20 - a decision with no regrets at all. Great content, and you come across as a very sympathetic and genuine person. Love your videos and hope to meet you in the flesh in Khao Lak, Thailand some day soon, when international travel is back in full swing. Love and light from sunny Thailand 🇹🇭 ☀️🏝 Franky

  • @SteveHorne
    @SteveHorne 3 года назад +3

    Glad I watched this- I have a LiveTrak L-8 and it never occurred to me to patch one of the headphone outputs back into my MPC for sampling! Thanks for the tip!

  • @shamrockit5136
    @shamrockit5136 3 года назад +3

    I have the Zoom L-20 for a year now maxed it out with a few old Edirol M-10MX units and Lexicon mx400's and its the best setup so far for my synth
    studio.

  • @MsChronicChronicles
    @MsChronicChronicles 2 года назад

    Mannnnnnnn I’m glad I found your channel thank you for all your awesome info

  • @KalikoTrapp
    @KalikoTrapp 3 года назад +4

    Really nice and heartfelt explanation and first impressions. Thanks Midlife Synthesist!

    • @MidlifeSynthesist
      @MidlifeSynthesist  3 года назад

      Thank you so much! You are too kind, I wish you the best and hope to see you again!

  • @MODUS_OP
    @MODUS_OP 3 года назад +1

    I use its little brother, the L-8, and it’s great for using with Eurorack because it has 4 tracks with a -26db volume cut, freeing up the need for so many attenuators. 🥳

  • @FeelRealRacing
    @FeelRealRacing 3 года назад +3

    I Love my Zoom L-12... I've had it since release and no problems ever... I run 2 Behringer RX1602 rack mixers into it with 2 samson 48 channel patch bays to rewire when needed. Perfect setup for me.

    • @MidlifeSynthesist
      @MidlifeSynthesist  3 года назад

      I didn’t even know that existed, and now I need it🤣 damn my GAS

    • @FeelRealRacing
      @FeelRealRacing 3 года назад

      @@MidlifeSynthesist I have the L-12 rackmounted with the adapter and needed a few more channels. I didn't want to get the bigger L-20 and lose rack space so the RX1602's were the answer. Gives me more flexibility when using external FX and compressors too.

  • @KahyohBe
    @KahyohBe 2 года назад +1

    Great video, I just received my Zoom L-20 mixer today I will be connecting it to my Toft Audio design series 16 Channel console mixer I use to record my tracks for the warm sound connecting The Zoom will come in handy so I can record all 16 tracks individually into the Zoom mixer to record my tracks its Totally the best option for those who want to go Dawless and export tracks individually into your DAW for more effects plugins and engineering~

  • @silverlight2004db
    @silverlight2004db 3 года назад

    looks like a good option in its price range, many useful features. last year i was in the market for a 12-16 ch mixer for synthesizer studio to expand the track count beyond the 8 of my apollo interface. after much shopping around and researching i had the roland vm3100 on my shortlist and managed to pick up one up in mint condition for just $100. there really are some amazing deals to be found on both the new and used mixer market. thanks for your initial thoughts on this piece of gear, was a good watch.

  • @CraigMcNutt
    @CraigMcNutt 3 года назад +1

    I have been with the L8 since the dawn of my synthesis journey. I think they are amazingly user friendly. Doesn't require a deep dive into a manual.

  • @hovermotion
    @hovermotion 3 года назад

    Superb vid ,a vid ive been searching for ...this area of tech had me very confused as there are so many devises and vids out there...you explained this in a easy to understand way..
    Thanks ...

  • @seedmole
    @seedmole 2 года назад

    For a while, I went the way of getting an 8-channel firewire audio interface (Mackie Onyx Blackbird). It worked well, but ended up being so much more work to actually use than a mixer that I went back to a mixer-based setup. Now I'm using a 2-channel audio interface for recording and a Mackie 1642 vlz4. Works pretty dang well, though it takes up a lot of space. I am able to get a very clean signal with a very large dynamic range, though, so it's been very nice.
    Edit: tight! I used a two-channel Zoom handheld mic for a very long time before I decided to step up to more than two channels. It was able to make some incredibly impressive field recordings, makes me want to get back into that. Thanks for the trip down memory lane! Those multiple headphone outs seem like an extremely powerful tool, that's up to 10 total outputs if you make use of stuff like TRS to 2x TS Y cables. Very powerful for processing/looping/sampling.

  • @soundsfortoday3623
    @soundsfortoday3623 3 года назад +4

    Have had L 12 since May 2020. Absolutely love it. Use it as standalone recorder without hooking up to computer. Then export files to USB flash drive. Believe this piece of equipment has more possibilities not explored yet. Being lightweight and portable can move from room to room where other keyboards are. Would recommend!

    • @MidlifeSynthesist
      @MidlifeSynthesist  3 года назад

      Thanks for sharing! I agree, it’s ridiculously lightweight and feature packed! Really happy so far, see you around✌🏻

  • @mateythegreat1399
    @mateythegreat1399 3 года назад +2

    Allen and Heath sq6, that's what I have and it checks all the boxes and I love it

  • @timetravelvictim
    @timetravelvictim 3 года назад

    Looking forward to the next video on this and your workflow and setup. Very cool. Subbed.

  • @ThanasisPapathanasiou1963
    @ThanasisPapathanasiou1963 3 года назад +4

    I got the L 20 because you always need more channels. Overall very happy, suits my dawless workflow. Latency with Logic is 8,9 ms which is big but manageable. It also lacks aux returns but there's an easy way around with the aux mixes. Excellent value for money.

    • @MidlifeSynthesist
      @MidlifeSynthesist  3 года назад

      I was really torn between the 12 and 20! Finally went with the L 12 for the footprint and saving the extra bucks, but I can definitely see myself going for the L 20 eventually lol. I agree on the latency being pretty high as an audio interface, especially compared to my scarlett 18i20. I’ve been using it mainly with the built in recorder and later drop the tracks on my daw for finishing touches. Loving it so far! Thanks for dropping my a line✌🏻

  • @strayferal
    @strayferal 3 года назад +1

    The feature of a non-recorder gear to record to an on-board SDCard is relatively new and I admit it is a killer feature. I switched recently my mixer from an old and cheap Behringer Xenyx 12 channel w/ FX to Roland MX1, because I recently sold almost everything and kept my Roland gear, plus few small Korgs. MX1 makes much more sense to my current setup and wish it had the on-board memory card recording feature. But MX1 is old. Roland put it in MV1 and I am jealous. But I use Zoom R8 to record the final mix. I don't need individual channels kept, so the setup works for me. But kudos to Zoom for this mixer. I like it.

  • @TheNimasan
    @TheNimasan Год назад +1

    i was very close buying it, bought the 1010 bluebox instead which isn't an audiotnterface, but does exactly the same and its eurorack compatible! i really love it. it takes 5 times less room. its an amazing lil digital mixer which is getting better and better after each update!! but the l 12 is great as well of course

  • @paulheartsongs
    @paulheartsongs 2 года назад

    It’s great! I bought the L8 for live work and the multiple I/O, with a recorder. Very flexible and the L8 can be be USB and battery powered. Great for outdoor and mobile convenience. 💕 🇦🇺

  • @jontip
    @jontip 3 года назад +2

    Fantastic video as always. Just a brilliant channel too.

  • @BigFknRobots
    @BigFknRobots 3 года назад +5

    Damn!
    yeah finding an ideal mixer/interface solution for synths and drum machines is quite a challenge
    Everything is either too DJ orientated or full band focussed... what we want is something in the middle... with all the features of all of them!
    This wasn't on my radar, but it looks like it certainly has some advantages!
    Look forward to your full review and I hope it keeps inspiring you with your workflow!

  • @Twicrumbles
    @Twicrumbles 3 года назад +1

    These Zooms look so appealing! I almost pulled the trigger on an L8, but ended up going another route, losing only the SD-card recording at a much lower price: an old Mackie Onyx 820-i for 75 euro. The one caveat (that also makes it so cheap on the used market, I think) is that it's firewire instead of USB. I still have a desktop PC, so I simply bought a PCI-e firewire card (30 euro) and couldn't be happier. Good pre-amps, 8 track recording, two aux busses for sending signals around (to samplers if you want), intuitive controls, and everything except recording works without a computer. The rest of the Onyx-i series is even more feature rich and can be found inexpensively on the used market as well. If you still have a computer with firewire, or a way to add it, have a look at these guys.

  • @vznquest
    @vznquest 3 года назад +1

    you just sold me on this thing when you got to the part about samplers

  • @mattcero1
    @mattcero1 Год назад

    This dude puts out great information. I LOVE my Tascam Mixcast 4. It does mix minus to mix in phone calls from desk phones as well as cell phones. It has affects, 4 mic channels, high res. recording on multi channels, compression and full EQ per channel, filters, line in, aux in and monitor out and line out for your camera. Oh, and the mic pre-amps are fabulous!

  • @alfiedj
    @alfiedj 2 года назад

    Well explained on all the buttons and their functions 😅. Thank you.

  • @touchcircle22
    @touchcircle22 3 года назад +4

    I just bought one of these and I love it. I am hoping to be streaming some live techno soon : }

  • @reganjo1955
    @reganjo1955 3 года назад +4

    Excellent review.
    A short while back, at the 10th anniversary of the Octatrack, Cenk made a video and behind our beloved Octatrack there was a cool mixer and no computer. I didn’t know what it was, the product wasn’t listed any place I saw on the RUclips page, so I started looking in Google images for anything that looked like what I saw in the video and found it. If I hadn’t already bought the Soundcraft MTK 22 a year ago that mixer might have been just what was called for.
    The great feature that you mentioned about a mixer that is a multi track USB interface, the MTK has that. It has reasonable onboard effects, a limiter but also four group channels and five aux outs.
    in combination with a patchbay I connected to the MTK I can sample anything into my AR and my OT. That is a killer app so to speak being able to route anything into the mixer right into my the Octatrack, Whether it is my guitar my virus TI or some thing off of my iPad
    The shortcoming compared to the live track is that there is no onboard recorder for the multi track or even for the stereo output. For this the USB capability will have to suffice. A bonus feature of the MTK is that you can treat your inputs as having a daw insert with plugins and route it back into the analog realm. I have had some latency issues with this approach so I do not use it a lot.

    • @mougabo
      @mougabo 3 года назад

      the Soundcraft MTK are def a great option, although i might go for the tascam, will do more reseach in order to make my decision

    • @poeticgeenetikstv4672
      @poeticgeenetikstv4672 3 года назад

      I thought this video was about the ZOOM L 12

  • @patrickhowes5833
    @patrickhowes5833 3 года назад +3

    Would love to see examples of using various samplers with the L-12 too.

  • @sambitkundu
    @sambitkundu 3 года назад +1

    I am using this gear for Live recording, Live Streaming through OBS and it is working excellent. I am able to deliver live recording along with Video at the venue itself. No post production. Only drawbacks are the effects, which can not be different for different tracks. Otherwise it is working like a charm.

  • @Hlecktro
    @Hlecktro 3 года назад +8

    L-12 is a very useful dawless/live tool but for studio recording, the preamps on it make all my synths sound muddy. It is also a very noisy mixer, and mine get all sorts of wacky power noise depending on what and how I have things connected. However, it's a needed sacrifice. Just for convenience sake. It's very useful to be able to Dawless multitrack record

    • @maladykiller
      @maladykiller Год назад

      I experienced the same thing by plugging into the 1/4 inch monitor out LR. I was thinking it was a bad cable but it could very well be a noisy input. Overall that is the only problem I have with that as well.

  • @micahmachines
    @micahmachines 3 года назад +6

    "Samplers can be friends too" yessir

  • @jon_gee
    @jon_gee 3 года назад +1

    Zoooom!! Great video! 🙏🏻

  • @valbeccia8591
    @valbeccia8591 3 года назад +2

    Agree the H6 is a modern classic. The L 12 is awesome as well although so is its lil brother the L-8, and it runs on AA’s.
    Great video 👍

  • @deadmoonscriptures1556
    @deadmoonscriptures1556 3 года назад +3

    I love zoom, but I think for my needs I'm gonna go with the model 12! Seems to fulfill all I need it to do since my music is simple!

  • @alcraigie2548
    @alcraigie2548 Год назад

    Thx for the vid. I agree. I used the L12 to do a live recording of my band. Then I just popped the sd card into my PC and mixed it and mastered it in my DAW (reaper). I Love the L12. Thx again. AC

  • @JimmBeem
    @JimmBeem 3 года назад +1

    I bought the L8 a few months back when I decided to go DAWless. It is by far my favorite non-synth part of my studio! Only regret I have is that I should've bought the L12 because Im currently using all 8 inputs lol.

  • @twoeagles19
    @twoeagles19 3 года назад

    ThX looking forward to your further thoughts on th L12. Been studying it since she arrived on this Big Blue Whole Note !. 😀🎸✌🙏🙌☝

  • @andremmmmm2445
    @andremmmmm2445 3 года назад

    Thanks for this video - I look forward to your in depth review, specifically how you propose to use the individual earphone outs to route back into samplers. Very cool idea and applicable to my growing studio where I have synth+guit+bass that I am constantly plugin in and out of sampler....a real pain and vibe killer. Also would be interesting to know if earphone A can be sent to alternate set of Monitors (in case you have two sets....) Also would be interested to hear how preamps are when using condenser mics - thanks for the great content!!

  • @michaels5166
    @michaels5166 3 года назад +1

    Thanks..I do have the same exact issue right now.Samplers,instruments,turntables,tape,,and a few DAWs I plan to use,like Reaper and Acid,and trying to consolidate all this hardware,etc,etc..I will have a look at this Zoom..

  • @Pheonix0114
    @Pheonix0114 3 года назад +6

    My search led me to Zoom as well, though a lower end one. The Zoom R16 is an 8 mono (tracks can be paired for stereo easily) input mixer / recorder that can act as an interface (haven't tried that, as my computer isn't with my synths). Being able to record all of that at once, while balancing volume and panning is killer.

    • @MidlifeSynthesist
      @MidlifeSynthesist  3 года назад +3

      Absolutely! Being able to record and control the mix on the panel has really made my music making much quicker, since it literally takes seconds to get everything just right👍🏼 thanks for watching and dropping me a line bro! Stay safe!

    • @marcusaustin6250
      @marcusaustin6250 3 года назад +4

      i got the bigger brother zoom R24. i record to sd often. its nice to track and idea right while the moment is still fresh. and you will be surprised how much you can fit on a 32gb sd card. using it as an interface is great, plus every button, knob, and fader is midi mappable. i used it to control my DAW. i only wish i could record to sd while still using it as an interface.

  • @jessetaldotcom
    @jessetaldotcom 3 года назад +1

    Good suggestion.
    I own an H6 but have been looking for something like this - I.e. a multitrack recording interface in a more traditional mixer form factor.

  • @MilesKvndra
    @MilesKvndra 3 года назад +1

    Fantastic video and great Insights - thank you for sharing this mate! Have thought about upgrading from my old Olympus LS-5 recorder some time in the future so this recommendation for the H6 comes in handy 😁

    • @MidlifeSynthesist
      @MidlifeSynthesist  3 года назад +1

      Dude, the H6 would be ideal for your setup! I’ll try to make that video soon👍🏼

    • @MilesKvndra
      @MilesKvndra 3 года назад

      @@MidlifeSynthesist Awesome! 🙌🏻

  • @1vootman
    @1vootman Год назад +1

    I use a Korg D3200 with a 2Seemy video card as a visual monitor. It's MIDI synced to an Akai MPC X. I record into the Korg, then sample the recorded tracks into the X, where I chop it and add EFX. It's a nice DAWless setup. Of course it all winds up in a computer anyhow but the creation is computer free.

  • @jasonesty3880
    @jasonesty3880 3 года назад +5

    I use an X-32 rack which allows me to live mix with effects, compression etc as well multitrack record up to 32 channels via USB at 48k. Best of both worlds.

  • @muzicluvrable
    @muzicluvrable 3 года назад

    Useful AND entertaining!

  • @bobmccarroll7876
    @bobmccarroll7876 3 года назад

    Great video! Got one! Love it! While I also record onto my DAW system, I love the L-12 for its simplicity, remote recording (record in any room easily, and its unencumbured recording ability - that is, 'look Ma, no DAW.' Nice thing, too, is the ability to mix down your Zoom L-12 multi-channel recording, with EFXs, I might add, to the 2-channel "Master" fader then save to HD Card as a finished, stereo recording. NICE! I would also recommend getting the Zoom FS-01 footswitch, which will give you the flexibility to punch-in (any or multiple channels) hands-free. A wonderful machine at an amazing price point.

  • @swayee
    @swayee 3 года назад

    Another fantastic video. I appreciate the quality content you produce - high quality and to the point; no fluff. Out of curiosity, can you share what rack stand you are utilizing for your elektron gear? I have a digitone and a machinedrum (looking to purchase a digitakt eventually) and would like to set them up on my desk in a space efficient manner. Thanks!

  • @hovermotion
    @hovermotion 3 года назад +3

    Just ordered A L12 ive looked at loads of mixers..I even had a Music 1010 blue box which I sent back..
    I was going to go for the Tascam 12 with midi and blue tooth but the Zoom L12 for me is the best option..also looks great...
    Thanks for making my mind up..

    • @MidlifeSynthesist
      @MidlifeSynthesist  3 года назад +1

      That’s awesome bro! I’m glad I could help! This thing unexpectedly changed my entire music making process in a very positive and satisfying way, I hope it does the same for you!

    • @hovermotion
      @hovermotion 3 года назад +1

      @@MidlifeSynthesist HI ,
      I hope you are well and are doing good in your new home...
      I am well impressed with the L12
      ..it has more inputs then I need but it was very easy to get up and running and the menus are easy to work.
      I even recoreded my first jam with the microfreak and a Tr8s...
      Impressed with the onboard effects too..but saying the my Zoom stomp pedel is staying....
      Jim (uk).

  • @polyphonico
    @polyphonico 3 года назад

    I was just looking into this the other day! I was between this and the Tascam Model 12. I hadn’t considered using the headphone outs as sampler outs!

  • @plumcharlie
    @plumcharlie 3 года назад +4

    I'm really interested in this. I'd love to see the more nerdy side of transferring the audio to DAW and using it as an audio interface before purchasing if you were interested in making another video on it. I have been trying to make the expert sleepers es-9 work for awhile with eurorack but it's been very buggy for me (8 bit audio bit reduction glitch and general connectivity problems with windows. I think I have a busted unit maybe). Anyways, this seems like a great alternative to not mess with computers when tracking, although, I'm assuming you would have to abandon clock sync to DAW. The multi track + clock sync with CV tools was the hope for me with ES9

  • @GamingAuthorityVideo
    @GamingAuthorityVideo 2 года назад +1

    Is this still a good mixer that you can record in or is there something else that's better for the same price

  • @headcrabb1111
    @headcrabb1111 3 года назад

    Thanks for this! Had also been thinking about the Livetrack L20 for a long time, but finally decided to go for the Presonus Studiolive 16.0.2 USB digital mixer, which allows for 16 track recording via its built-in USB Audiointerface as well. Might also be an option worthwhile to consider for your purpose...

  • @SouthShoreSonics
    @SouthShoreSonics 2 года назад

    I was looking at the Zoom L-20 livetrack and have looked at the manual but do not see a way to send and return effects from external gear.

  • @zimanoir
    @zimanoir Год назад

    Was diggin for decades for the guy is strugglin with alike difficulties)) Thank you! Sometimes i just need to know im not alone))) thanx for the hint!

  • @KoolteethDeBlog
    @KoolteethDeBlog 3 года назад +2

    I am using my L12 as a pure dawless mixer since more than 2 years. It is the best solution to me, allthough it has many disadvantages. But that is dawless ;)

  • @zhanknight
    @zhanknight 3 года назад

    When you're using it as an audio interface, is the send effect track available in Ableton? I haven't been able to find out if the audio interface mode only makes the 12 inputs available plus the master, or if the return is available to record in the DAW as well.

  • @Anthony-sn9kl
    @Anthony-sn9kl 3 года назад +1

    Thank u for this 🎶🎶🎶

  • @amirgan1337
    @amirgan1337 3 года назад

    I got a interface from zoom, its a good one. But i gonna get this one too! Thanks for this video dude

  • @JavierGallon
    @JavierGallon 3 года назад +1

    Great video 🙌🏼👍

  • @textnotepro
    @textnotepro 3 года назад +2

    Yes please to an H6 review... Not a feature list, can we see a practical demo of it working to record your synths. Thanks

  • @DopamineOverload
    @DopamineOverload 3 года назад +1

    You must be a mind-reader. Because of your Keystep 37 vid and others, I'm setting up a cool little dawless-jam setup (Circuit, MPC One, Model:Samples, Uno Synth, Sonicware LIVEN, and Microfreak)... and needed this video, haha. :) I have an 18i20 as well, and just picked up an ADAT (ADA8200) with a long ADAT cable, so now I'm rocking 16 channels, and the setup can be far from the computer setup thanks to the 25' ADAT cable. That said, that Zoom L12 looks DOPE, and has some killer features. Excellent work as always, my friend.

    • @MidlifeSynthesist
      @MidlifeSynthesist  3 года назад

      Thank you so much bro! That’s an awesome setup your building there! Be sure to share it with the world! Cheers!

  • @SaM99063
    @SaM99063 3 года назад +1

    ''samplers can be friends too'', love it.

  • @hakonsoreide
    @hakonsoreide 2 года назад

    I've been using a trusty old Zoom H4n (non-pro) as my main synth recorder, which is great as synth line level needs no amplification from the noisy preamps. In fact, I usually even attenuate the signal a bit.
    And I like taking advantage of the fact that some of my synths have stereo ins and outs and built-in stereo mixers, effectively daisy-chaining audio through several pieces of gear that eventually end up in a single synth with a stereo output, and then I send it into effects and do my recording from there. I end up with a final mix with effects that just needs the occasional level adjustment in post processing and it's good to go.
    However, to make that process a bit easier and with additional control, especially of pan, I also did get an audio mixer, settling on a Soundcraft EPM6 just over a year ago. I didn't know anything about mixers, and so I didn't want to get anything too fancy in case I'd not get along with that way of working at all. You just never know.
    Of course, after using that for over a year, it has become clear to me the mixer I really wanted was a Zoom Livetrak, and probably the L-12. It just ticks all the boxes. Sometimes, when you record a full mix with effects, it may have the immediacy of the improvised patching, but it could still do with some remixing, or - more often - there are sounds in there that I'd likely never be able to replicate that I'd have loved to use for something non-improvisational. Always recording individual pre-effect tracks would open up many possibilities.
    Also, the L-12 would effectively replace three devices on my desk: my mixer, my H4n, and my audio interface which only has 2 in and isn't that useful for much.
    Great video as always.

  • @kathymatossian
    @kathymatossian 3 года назад

    Yes, please do an in-depth review! Also, how does it compare to TASCAM Model 12 Mixer / Interface / Recorder / Controller?

  • @nebula0697
    @nebula0697 3 года назад

    Does the L12 as an onboard looper so you can record a loop on each track? That would be so useful.

  • @vicenteb531
    @vicenteb531 2 года назад

    Thanks for sharing your experience using the L-12! I have been considering to get one L-12. Just watched a lot of RUclips reviews, forums, etc. There is one thing that I have not figured out. It seems that you can NOT balance/pan tracks (left-right) independently for each individual headphone mix. You can only set a unique balance/pan setting per track and that will be fixed for the master mix as well as for each 5 individual headphone mixes. Is that right for now? I am not sure if there has been any firmware update that might have solved this. Cheers.

  • @sinepilot
    @sinepilot 2 года назад +1

    I plan to remain dawless, but I want to record each channel separately in case anybody wants to remix me later. So I'm looking for an interface with a decent amount of inputs, somewhere around 7-10, and thus the Scarlett 2i2 is too limiting for me. I could go with a bigger Scarlett or something similar, but I also prefer working with a more traditional mixing board, and I don't want to have _both_ a bigger interface _and_ a bigger mixer. So I'm happy to learn something like this exists!

  • @seanspartan2023
    @seanspartan2023 3 года назад +2

    I used to have a Zoom but the available desk space in my studio kept getting smaller and smaller. I sold it and got a 1010 Bluebox and I'm pretty happy with it. Then again, most of my gear is compatible with the small TRS stereo inputs. I get 6 stereo tracks (or 12 mono) and it can take a direct Eurorack signal without issue. Plus it records direct to SD card.

    • @BoxLab24
      @BoxLab24 3 года назад

      Been eyeing bluebox is it worth it more or the same than an average mixer like this or the tascam model series mixers?

  • @albertohilsaca9757
    @albertohilsaca9757 3 года назад +1

    Great tip

  • @mawortman72
    @mawortman72 3 года назад

    I’m really having a lot of problems hooking this to my computer. My live L8 from zoom. Do you know much about that. I downloaded all the software and it’s installed on my computer but I just can’t get the audio out.

  • @tricks-and-tips
    @tricks-and-tips 3 года назад

    Great (and fun) video.
    I have been looking towards the L12 myself too.
    I'm not sure about the latency on Windows, but I will try to find some info on that.

  • @jdtorian
    @jdtorian 3 года назад

    Love my l-12.

  • @aaronsnow5090
    @aaronsnow5090 3 года назад

    thanks for the interesting and good video 👍
    how do you cope with the missing AUX paths? I'm using FX pedals relying on. the multi track recording is a nice feature.

  • @RobbieHogg1
    @RobbieHogg1 3 года назад

    Just been looking at the L 12 recently am considering it as one of my next upgrades, love the idea of being able to use it as an audio interface as well as a standalone unit.
    From my understanding of it tracks 9/10 and 11/12 are stereo in, but when using it as an audio interface you will loose either 9/10 or 11/12 to get the audio coming out from a DAW. Being that i am synth orientated and plan on expanding, is it possible to assign say tracks 5 and 6 or 7 and 8 as a stereo input like what can be done on the Zoom R24 (I think it's called stereo link) in either standalone or as an audio interface?
    As an interface i guess it depends more on what the DAW allows as routing for mono and stereo tracks.

  • @GuitarsAndSynths
    @GuitarsAndSynths Год назад

    I am trying to figure out how to change file and project names on the Zoom Livetrak L:-12 and how to get it to work as an audio interface on Mac OS X in Logic X

  • @xn-triq7607
    @xn-triq7607 3 года назад +1

    Easier recording, mixing, inputs, organising, sampling, instrument convenience, etc. means better music production, quicker idea capturing, less messing about and losing vital inspiration, and best of all, the capability to have a lot more fun with added individual expression in your final mixes.
    I think the new wave of dawless hardware heavy production is exactly why these mixers are making a comeback, I'm not saying all mixers are great though, I've just always been a massive Zoom fan, they make affordable, high quality gear and it's always really intuitive & easy to master, I'm even one of the few people that own a Zoom ARQ--48 and actually enjoy using it haha! especially when jamming and laying down tracks on my L-8!

  • @jurj4108
    @jurj4108 3 года назад +1

    Good video, and yes, a zoom H6 review would be nifty as well ;)

  • @KazmaHD
    @KazmaHD 3 года назад +1

    This is gonna be my first mixer I ever buy, seems like it has all the features ill ever need and more! Do your opinions about this product still hold up to this month? Have you had any problems?

  • @theway3058
    @theway3058 3 года назад

    Deff do a follow up on this. Your getting really good at producing your video. Their allways fun and witty

  • @nosleeptillhumboldt
    @nosleeptillhumboldt 3 года назад

    Would love to see a Zoom H6 review from your perspective. Really appreciate your use-over-time approach.

  • @SteveCookeGB
    @SteveCookeGB 2 года назад

    I like the look of the L12 and L20 but am concerned about the lack of MIDI ports. How do you sync it properly with MIDI instruments in a DAWless setup?