Mass Effect 3: Destroy (Best) Ending
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- The best variation of the Destroy ending: Reapers and synthetics are destroyed, Earth is saved, Shepard survives.
By no means, is this ending the "best" or even good. They're all terrible, really. Please let BioWare know that these endings are unacceptable.
I had ~7200 War Assets/Effective Military Strength (100% Readiness rating through multiplayer). Imported save; RPG mode.
Protheans had a faction that wanted to control the Reapers, turns out they were indoctrinated. Illusive Man got indoctrinated and he wanted to control the Reapers. What makes you think that they're not playing tricks on Shepard? Everyone of them somehow got convinced that they can control the Reapers and look what it did to them. After all humanity went through, deciding to control them is too risky. Destroying is the best decision. I wouldn't trust this catalyst hologram no matter what.
had the same fouth how the fuck i dont now machine isnt fuking with me and its lying to me and why the fuck are the in a form of a fuking kid
Agreed. I just beat the game and chose destroy.
+The boy is an unknown figure, it is negitive to the opinion on total destruction on the reapers. And is supportive of anything besides that. And we really dont even know who really made him, he could be an illusion made by the reapers for shepard. This "figure" speaks bad about total destruction of the reapers as if it doesnt solve anything for the far future. His words almost wipe your memory of everything that occurred before all this, what really happen for you to get there. It's almost like all the effort from the other games is darken by the moment. The death and frustration all to end the reapers and restore long lasting peace becomes bland. That was always the plan! Right!? It should ever change! Especially by some holographic boy that was made by people who died thousand years ago who never had hope. It's as almost as the boy controls shepard but it's up to you if you would allow that. As shepard said to the illusive man, "You've spent to much time with enemy that they've turned you into them". The boy was the speaker for the reapers, the reapers are the enemy and he spook there tongue to shepard. NEVER GROW CLOSE TO THE ENEMY OR LISTEN TO THE ENEMY!
MathRockFox18 the boy was created by the leviathans almost what... 10 trillion years before ME1.
make sense! i just finished it yesterday by choosing synthesis. not satisfied!
"What... is your name?"
"Commander Shepard of the System's Alliance."
"What... is your quest?"
"To destroy the Reapers and save the galaxy."
"What... is your favourite colour?"
Red, like the band of my N7 decal!
Blue! Wait... NO!
Alternatively...
"What... is your favorite shop on the Citadel?"
Yellow.
"I'm Commander Shepard, and EA is my least favorite company on the Citadel."
nice
nice
*adds discount*
adds season pass
Or... Sheppard simply survived the explosion from the shooting the power conduit and his body survived re-entry. That theory makes just as much sense. The Citadel wasn't completely blown to bits, meaning if Sheppard could've been protected by the Citadel during re-entry, thus surviving.
The "breathing/waking up" scene suggests that he simply regained conciousness after having a fairly big explosion in his face and crashing down from orbit in parts of the Citadel.
Well, this is a nice coincidence, randomly seeing you here, 8 year old comment from one of my favourite RUclipsrs! In the comments section of a video not related to Halo, as well! Small world, eh?
Best regards and thanks for all your content! You're awesome!
Damm my first ending were destroying
Fuck repear for killing my squad
At least i live at the end
With robotic face
I agree with a lot of people here. This is the only ending that makes sense, even without the Indoctrination theory. If you wanna' be a renegade, shoot the starchild (Harbringer) and say 'Fuck it, I'm out.'
Otherwise, sacrifices have to be made. You're doing what you've always come there to do. Why would you take control of the Reapers like the IM wanted, when he was so obviously indoctrinated? Why would you do what the Reapers always wanted and link everyone when they have been committing genocide for generations?
What Anderson wanted, what you wanted, was to destroy the Reapers. So do it.
Some people think the Geth and EDI don't die, and it's a Reaper lie. I don't know if this is the case but even if they do have to die, It's just one of those heart-wrenching sacrifices Bioware always include to be emotional.
MinecraftPro15 Not every Goverment plans to invade your mind or body or kill your entire species and those that do? You have the ability to fight back. It's not the same at all.
MinecraftPro15 Study history.
MinecraftPro15 What do you do to enemies who can destroy your town, region or country with one missile? Doesn't stop some groups.
You're completely missing the point I fear.
MinecraftPro15 But where are you pulling this 20 person group bullshit from? There will inevitably be way more than 20 people who disagree with various Goverments.
And certainly in this case when the choice is about everyone's bodies/races ENDING, essentially.
You can't just make up the criteria of the argument. XD
+PurpleBadger For me it doesn't make any sense. I mean the whole goddamnit galaxy fleet is either scrambling home or get left behind on earth while the crucible is shooted. With the reaper being destroyed and their whole tech is decimated, who will rebuild the whole relays? The united galaxy once more separated.
I think destruction is the best ending. The whole point is to liberate the galaxy from the reapers, which you can only do this way.
Choosing control is like trying to tame a shark, someone's gonna end up dead, in this case the whole galaxy.
Synthesys results in an unnatural peak of evolution (in my opinion) and also the reapers survive too.
Defiance is just giving up, passing the choice to the next cycle, and the reapers also survive.
Also I'd like to point out that the reapers are neither good nor evil. They're a means to an end, tools for the AI created by an ancient race (the Leviathans) with one single purpose: the preservation of organic life. The motive behind this was that they assumed, and exprerienced in many cases that "lesser" species build synthetics which then destroyed them. They concluded that machines necessarily will rebel against they creators and ultimately wipe out all organic life. To prevent this they created said Intelligence to find a solution to this, which it did: the Reapers. This AI then used them to create the Citadel and the mass relays to direct the way of evolution in the galaxy, to control it and this way sustain organic life. Doing this by wiping out all organics and synthetics at a certain level of evolution and leaving primitive species alone, this way eventually preventing machines from eliminating all organic life. "The galaxy became an experiment, evolution it's tool."
And the solution works! Organic life is "saved" over and over again.
BUT, the AI's purpose is built on the false assumption that organics and synthetics will necessarily war with each other, which is just not true. That you can prove by making peace between the geth and quarians. Peace is possible between the two.
Yes, with destruction the geth perish, all synthetics just vanish, but they will be created again and now with the knowledge that peace is possible and in a galaxy free of the Reapers and the AI's false "solution".
Yep.
What about Edi, don't you care, she dies if you do this
Just because you choose Destroy doesn't mean that you don't care about the Geth or EDI. Kaidan/Ashley dies, Mordin dies too, that doesn't mean that i don't miss them. EDI also clearly said that she was ready to die for the cause just like Shepard.
"The Reapers must be defeated not because they threaten us with death but because the threat of death makes us die inside." Meaning that the very existence of the Reapers is wrong and she wants them gone forever.
"It is the right of sapient beings to live freely and securely and that is worth dying for."
The geth refused to make any compromise with the Reapers refusing ascention and offer of technology, the human race (Shepard) also refused ascention and Reaper technology and for that the geth admired them and like Legion said "You are more like us than we though. The Reapers offered us a future, the geth will build their own future."
Synthesis is a choice that the geth would never choose and Control is an offer of technology while keeping the influence of the Reapers forever shaping our future just like the A.I. wants, all races forever living beneath it's shadow. The geth wouldn't want that too.
Destroy is a choice the geth would almost definetly choose although it ends them it preserves their believes that everyone should be free to shape their own future without any external "godly" foreign influence.
"There will be no more compromise with the Old Machines." - Geth Prime
I will make no compromise too.
the point of the reapers was, this was always gonna happen. You destroy the reapers, the geth, the whatever. Then in 500,000 years the new sythetics will be waging war on the organics. destroy only delays another cycle for just a little bit longer.
You are so naive. Did humans now learn from our ancestors that war and conflict is a bad thing and stopped waging war into each other? :D dont be silly, organic creatures are filled with greed and strive for more all the time, they wont remember an event 500k years ago. They will believe they are not as stupid, but its a deception
This is the only correct ending.
Heart skips a beat whenever I see as the reapers die and relays repeaters.
Даун, кроме жнецов еще и геты умирают и сири
@@ТАДАМ-ю4ж я с удовольствием убиваю чертовых железяк ещё на Раннохе, ;)
@@Alla_Russian все технологии, путешествия между системами, люди и другие расы с аугментацией, все сломано и все в каменном веке, чем тебе синяя концовка не нравится, где Шепард выживает и становится гарантом безопасности, тем более после того, как разрабы сами признали что никакого одурманивания
@@ТАДАМ-ю4ж я не собираюсь превращать Шепарда в новый Катализатор, и подвешивать над человечеством дамолов меч. Шепард всего лишь человек, и будучи в таком противоестественном состоянии, рано или поздно он может сойти с ума. Обойдемся без мерзких жуков. Только уничтожение!
@@Alla_Russian ты дикая
Finally an epilogue .
Mass effect is back baby.
I see my boy is here after the mass effect 4 teaser
@@justcreed4024 yep
the only ending i accept...after anderson's death i was like "fuck this...time to end it once and for all" i no longer cared about the geth, quarians, humans or any other god damned race in the galaxy all i wanted was to turn these fuckers into scrap as such destroy was the only way to make the reapers pay
You made the right choice all the characters in the game bar EDI and the Geth would've made the same decision, plus we made Anderson (Dad) proud.
Apparently this is now the cannon ending
"Mass Effect will continue.."
In the new trailer, the reapers are dead and some relays still destroyed
This is the canon ending, synthesis and control are fake endings created by the indoctrination of shepard
Not really, synthesis and control are just alternate endings, like how Shep dying in 2 is an alternate ending.
@@roundabout468 yeah, destroy represents the final defeat of the reapers, control and synthesis represents the survival of the reapers and the death of Shepard
@@Scifilooker Yea but that doesn't mean they're related to the indoctrination thing. Plus, IT has never been confirmed after 8 years, I find it hard to believe. Maybe ME5 will confirm it or debunk it, but for now it's just a theory.
@@roundabout468 Indoctrination theory has been debunked long ago
It had the potential to be the "best" ending, but it completely throws Legion's sacrifice and the truce between Quarians and Geth out the window.
Legion is a traitor who fought against me after I gave him to Cerberus.
@@iliboxic7586 i Wonder why he would do that
Actually most of the Geth probably survived due to them uploading their consciousness into the Quarian Envriosuits.
Not necessarily, Legion sacrificed himself to give the Geth intelligence and wipe out the Reapers, which they did, unfortunately it was the last thing they did, but they accomplished what Legion died for, his, yes HIS the game refers to him as "it" a lot and I hate it, anway his sacrifice was not in vain
You have to remember the geth killed a lot of alliance soldiers and doomed a lot of other militarys. They were a plague in mass effect 1, started trouble everywhere they went. Legion was the only one who helped and behaved. If you never would have meet legion, the geth would have never meant nothing to you. You see, people dont like the geth, they like legion. By legion lived on through the intelligent geth. Then was passed down to the quarins after there death by the crucible.
I think Destroy is the only ending that will work for my Shepard. He been an solider since the beginning and i decide to destroy the reapers from the beginning. Every war will have there sacrifices and i rather kill of all the synths so that the reapers is no more so no one will ever face their terror. The geth's can be rebuilt and same goes for everything. Also, this might seem egoistic but i rather also see my Shepard survive so he can reunite with his LI. Not everyone will agree with me but i hope some of you can respect my actions and understand what i mean.
It's ok i 100% Agree. I'm making sure shepard survives.
For real, I'm not finished yet but I'm on the third game I did not play all this shit just to be hypocritical and control the reapers. Nor am I forcing people to undergo a new Evolution that they might not even want, my Shepard did NOT get this far just to die and never see tali again.
@@yourevilhalf1413
He will never see Tali again. The Normady is stranded on a remote planet, basically a wreck, with no way to move faster than the speed of light.
Destroy means going back centuries back (for humakind). And millenias for the other species. Showing Joker and Liara alongside with the admiral is a clear indication they're all dead. At least, in this version.
In the synthesis ending, god shepard could create a human double of himself, going back to Tali to build their home together. While god shepard would continue to look after their legacy for millions of years.
@@spaghettispoon8680 last I checked in the destroy ending I got, it showed MY Shepherd have a wake up breath. And it looked like it was somewhere between the citadel or on Earth where they got beamed up, so he can obviously be found. They're not just going to NOT look for him after all that. Plus tali looked at the name plaque and did not put it up while the undamaged Normandy blasted off obviously going to go get Shepherd. (It never got hit by the blast therefore didn't get stranded) I'd say that's a damn good ending and pretty much says my shepherd WILL see tali again. Don't know which ending you're talking about when it comes to destroy, because I got good results. You can have your God Shepard ending and I can have mine, where the reapers are destroyed and life can continue.
@@spaghettispoon8680 or centuries forward, somehow. Me4 better explain that.
I think the destruction of the Mass Relay is important, first it indicate that the Reapers are compeletely destroyed, and everything that affiliated with it are erradicated, second is that it's a symbolism that the series has ended (as it should be). No more Space Travel, no more Mass Effect, everything back to square zero. The ultimate price to pay when you choose destroy is that everything must go, a heavy price to pay to see your shepard breathe at the end.
aaaannnnddd the devs decided to do the 4th one.
I'm just glad that Javik survived
Well until he visited the Graves
@@jamesverner9132 any idea on how to prevent him from dying?
@@johnjoe769 Don't let him look at the echo shard near the end of the game.
I usually don't cry at game endings, but for this one, i just had to...
I'm just here to analyze details from this ending to understand wtf was with the Mass Effect trailer form Game Awards.
I think I first saw this in the middle of 2019 or in 2018 but all I know is that I love the sad music playing on 1:58 I like how it has that build up. Here from 10/1/19 6:01AM
And so, after 8 long years this was finally the chosen canon for the continuation...bless Shepard :D
This is the only one that could really work for a sequel, really. Control has Deus Ex Machina Shepard, so, no trouble is gonna happen in the Milky Way, and Synthesis is a "we should all get along!", which wouldn't make for a very interesting game.
Yeah, which ruined the integrity of the entire trilogy by making ANY choices canon. "Choose your story... except not really because we'll be telling you the way it ended and your choices don't really matter now because people kept complaining."
Why the FUCK does Shepard have to walk towards the power couplings blowing up? Why did they fucking fuck up this series in the fucking end?
Corek BleedingHollow it was badass
No it was stupid
it was badass and stupid.
No just stupid
and gay
Looks like this is the ending we might get for ME3 legendary edition bc of the new trailer👀
There's also the indoctrination theory though, which does have some very valid points
It doesn't. It's just a desperate overthinking theory
Solaxe Solaxowski is not a desperate overthinking theory... and if you look about the indoctrination yes it have some very valid points.
Solaxe S Fair enough. How do you explain the last seconds of the video, where someone with a badly damaged armor and Normandy dogtags awakens amidst rubble ?
After you chose to give the finger to the reapers talking to you ?
I really dont understand what all the complaining was about, the endings are fine imo
best ending was closing the game after watching the ending :D
Nah.
This the ONLY game that brought a tear to my eye... 3 brilliant games with one character, cant wait for the whole new universe and characters on mass effect 4 :D
SIDENOTE: every species of alien and humans is stuck in the sol system, they cant go through the mass relay anymore... just saying
The only game that was able to make me cry so far as well.
But they are actually not stuck in the sol system. The dialogue between the child and the man after the credits proves that. Not knowing how is a little bit frustrating because the mass effect universe always seemed to be authentic and logical. But all the players who do not sympathize with this ending should not forget: the whole game is about defending free will of the organics. You could say the star child is somehow an inkarnation of god showing us what would happen if the organics did not have their free will. It's like the star child claiming "you as organics always want me as god to do something against chaos and pain. This is my solution. And you are still not pleased?"
You fight for uniting the galaxy, accepting the mistakes of other people or the culture of other races and protecting the free will of organic beings. The dialogue after the credits proves that they are not stuck in the sol system. You don't need to know why they are not stuck because it doesn't matter at all. The ending is just a symbol for a new beginning. Just listen to shepard when you pick the refusal ending and accept that destroying the reapers is the best choice. It is what it is and i love it :)
it's kind of hinted in the new game use FTL drives and sleeper cells until they can figure out a faster means of Travel
ell the extended cut said that the relays were eventually repaired. Its such a shame that mass effect andromeda ruined it all.
I am from the future and I would to inform you that Mass Effect is deader than the reapers in this ending.
@@theark4568 I’m from an alternative future where mass effect 4 exists.
Still crying watching this😥😢😭thank you for giving this game🙆,,,i hope they make a real life movie about this🙏
You're calling Bioware fans stupid, but if you actually paid attention to the game you would've realized that the Geth do have a sentience and couldn't understand why the Quarians turned against them.
The reaper-code also gives them individual identities. Personalities, as such go for a robot.
Destroying the reapers also destroys the Geth with this ending; again, did you even play the motherfucking game, boy?
Please don't call ME fans stupid. Especially if you say their instead of they're.
I was satisfied by this ending. Middle school me played the heck out the first three Mass Effect games. I always kinda liked that Shepard died in the end
When I picked the destroy ending, it killed organics too. How do I stop that from happening? I wanted to destroy the Reapers, not the whole damn galaxy.
Get more score (war assets, don't remember xactly how it's called here), with the highest even Shepard is hinted to survive the explosion (a bit different movie). It's IMPOSSIBLE without iOS (mobile) crap so use cheats with the light heart. 7000+ war assets or 10 000 would do the trick. That's xactly what I did in order to be able to see the real ending at least without byuing iPhone and their crap. Go to hell with that idea, Bioware, really, cheats aren't THAT bad as this.
I'm generally against using cheats, but with that... Let's unleash the hell on earth and turn that damn "game" into CHEATFEST.
+Taylor O'Dell Sounds to me like you have a really really low war asset rating.
Lie to the Salarian Daletress about curing the genophage to get her fleet, then cure the Krogans. With enough speech checks (and I think the me2 loyalty missions) you can have Legion upload the reaper code, and talk the Quarians into standing down. They ally and do some amazing stuff.
Listen to anyone in the Citadel who is having a random conversation, they add collection quests to get artifacts from random worlds. These, along with the random ships you can find on some worlds can account for something like 1k war asset when combined.
Check the specter room in the embassies, missed quest items and certain useful authorizations can be acquired, an example is you can choose whether or not to allow the PTSD Asari in the hospital to have a gun after you hear her entire story.
With multiplayer you can raise your war readiness to 100%, and need only 4k to get the "best" endings possible, without you need 8k. However I think even 2.5k/5k would get you a non kill everyone ending. Not sure, never had below 3k.
Wait, there's another ending showing Shepherd might live? You mean besides this one?
What are those cheats and how high can you get a war asset score?
James Hoffman
You can cure the genophage and lie to the dollatras? I thought you could only lie to her and not cure the genophage.
It's entirely possible to get the best endings without using cheats, just do more side missions to improve your EMS.
"You can't reason with a tiger when your head is in its mouth."
The extended cut or a patch that came around the same time (I can't remember) changed the maximum amount of EMS needed for the best ending to 3100, after an outcry by fans who didn't want to play the multiplayer to get it.
i finished mass effect with all dlc from 1, 2, 3 + every mission in every mass effect and i have to say
BEST GAME!!
*Shepard lives*
Shepard: "Ahhh man... another dream... oh crap I'm still on Akuze!!!"
*Thresher Maw kills him...*
Does this unit have a soul?
Not if you fucking murder them.
I believe indoctrination. I know bio ware has now contradicted it, but I don't care, I love that theory, and it's the only explanation as to why shepards eyes are the eyes of an indoctrinated after he picks control or synth. It's not that I even I believe it, I just want it to be true so badly, like the "R+L=J" theory in game of thrones, its too good, and fits just to perfectly to be true.
Baron Ockslite I have yet to see another explanation of the last seconds of the destruction ending.
Again, you're very simple minded. If an AI becomes sentient, who is to say that it shouldn't be treated like a person?
Hypothetically speaking, If our grandchildren's grandchildren live in a time where AI's can think for themselves, have personal preferences and for all intents and purposes can socialize and interact just as well as a human can (in some cases better) and we took one apart without its consent, are we committing murder?
Could you say it was alive to begin with, or never was?
How would i finish the trilogy? Uploaded the geth-EDI-quarian-modified-super-virus in the central hub of citadel, watch the kid screams in not-so-sweet-voice, grab the astro gear, or EVA suit (or something like that) and jump into the space, where Normandy could pick me up. No more reapers, everybody lives, shepard finished what he fought for. United Galaxy lives on! or i would make EDI , though sad version :( sacrifice herself to implement herself into the reaper system, and shut everything down, thus proving the ultimate sacrifice one A.I. could do, honoring the Legion too.
anyway
I wasn't sure which path to go next, so i just turned right and shot at the circuit, thought i would do some damage to the "child" and had back to the left and then to the center ray :D ... it appeared that it is Destroy ending.. :( it is really a bullshit ending, don't know what BioWare thought and made this ending.. 2 weeks, i played 1,2,3 parts just so they give me this ending? I watched all different endings (Ext.Cut) and red countless commentaries about what is "right to choose" and... if that was my decision in real life, maybe i would choose synthesys..after all, i don't want reapers to exist in such way, my friends and all of the galaxy to live on, both EDI and the Geth.. and when she said I AM ALIVE, i felt some chills..
the Catalyst says, when explaining the Destroy option in detail, that all technology affected can be rebuilt. EDI and the geth are gone for like, a month, tops.
Well, better to fight geth, rather than reapers in a distant future.;)
after all, well that's what he wants you to think :) Technology can be rebuild, true, but galaxy can always put some new laws in order to prevent stuff from happening. The future is always in motion and it is not predestined :)
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I personally would prefer to not have to sacrafice all the geth because they are mostly innocent. (When they sided with the reapers it was in self defense) or EDI. If it was my choice in real life I would chose control then fly the reapers into a sun effectively destroying them.
mini2239 smart thinking :) ;)
mini2239 flying the reapers into a star like vy canis majoris or NML cygni would do it, but what I'd rather do is fly the reapers to a system with no organics or synthetics and let the fight each other to the death. But the indoctrination theory made me think that maybe control won't actually allow Shepard to control.
What I wanted was Shepard alive and the reapers dead, but I wanted the geth and EDI alive. Most people also want the exact same thing, even in controlling all reapers to die leaves Shepard unable to use his/her original body so I count that as a death. Everybody really hates the three endings indoctrination theory or not.
The catalyst claimed that destroying the Reapers would kill all synthetic life, and that Shepherd would die as well thanks to their cybernetics. Yet Shepherd is evidently still alive after the ‘destroy’ ending.
Sovereign told Saren that the Reapers would spare those who submitted and obeyed. It lied. The Illusive Man thought he could control the Reapers because he was indoctrinated. In other words, the Reapers lied to him. The Humans responsible for the Project believed the Reapers were benevolent, as they were indoctrinated and effectively lied to. The Reapers used indoctrinated Protheans (the proto-Collectors) to infiltrate and kneecap the Protheans from within. Put simply, the Reapers are liars.
Conclusion/headcanon: the catalyst was lying. EDI and the Geth were unaffected by the Crucible wave. The Catalyst just made up that part to discourage Shepherd from doing it. The Reapers have something to gain from the other endings.
Best take I have seen
@warbossgrotsmasha23 ironically, the name of the song in the background is called " An end, once and for all".
This ending was maybe my greatest gaming moment idc what people say
Yeah and its canon now
@@tornado6911 yeaaa that's why I came here! Haven't stopped getting goosebumps since the reveal :D are you happy or disappointed?
@@morellif36 very happy man.
@@morellif36 literally crying.
@@morellif36 can u identify the voices after the radio chat in the reveal.
this is all in shepard's head
I'll never understand why the ending shows some no name scrubs fighting in the field. It should've shown squad members you didn't bring with you. Make you care about what happens when the Reapers collapse.
The only reason I dislike the Destroy ending is that it makes Legion's sacrifice for nothing if you achieved peace between the quarians and the geth. If you're going for the destroy ending you might as well just let the quarians annihilate the geth instead.
Who you replied to doesn't seem to get the gist of this conflict in Mass Effect. But keep in mind of natural ethics that affect organic life. If the Geth were not in conflict with the Quarians and they were eventually as intelligent or more intelligent and more capable in many aspects, they are potentially dangerous if a future conflict does arise. That is the fear of AI/synthetics(Reapers anyone?).
I love how Sheperd doesn't realise that destroying the mass relays means all of his 'war asssets' (Krogan, Turian etc.) are all trapped on earth with limited resources.
Honestly dont think the ending were that bad i mean there is bad consequences on each ending but thats the whole point to beat the reapers, sacrifices would need to be made
Anyone who thought the war against the reapers would lead to a happy hollywood ending, with kisses and rainbows, is heavily deluded. Have they not even played the game, where whole planets are harvested, whole species burned away, fleets wiped out... what did people expect in the end? Fairy magic that makes everything nice again?
I think destroying them is, overall, the best course of action available here, even if that is, basically, unknowable. Because there is no guarantee, at the time the choice is being made, that the Catalyst is not actually another, skilled manipulator just like the Illusive Man, but several orders of magnitude higher. So seeing the possibility (however slim, since the commander does not know how to operate it, nor can (s)he count on the assistance of EDI) of demise at the hands of Shepard, he (hypothetically) decides to risk everything, and say that controlling them is the only possible solution. In the Extended, "Controlled" ending, Shepard says he now knows what it is to be immortal and infinite; however, nothing says he is not under the effects of some stimulant provided by the Reapers or simply overwhelmed by a totally different kind of powerful stimuli. But somewhere before the ending, it is said by EDI or someone else that a larger, eery pattern seems to emerge in the way Reapers operate...which may or may not be attributable to the Catalyst. But discounting the Catalyst, it may be that he and the Reapers themselves are just the servants of a higher, more remote power. And that, by extension, Shepard becomes Indoctrinated, or even THE Indoctrinated, once he accepts to take over the Reapers. So temporarily controlling the Reapers (before that more remote power comes into play again and issues a possible, final directive)...may not be the ideal solution. And destroying them could still be mitigated by studying the remnants of Reaper technology, and other artifacts. Plus the Catalyst himself concedes that Shepard's presence alters some variables and the core premise upon which they operated. So, fuck the Reapers. But ultimately, I think this is all unknowable, the game itself does not present enough data to make an informed decision. I think both choices come down to personal preference, with destruction being the preferred one, since what happens at a higher order of things and cannot really be understood is really...probably not morally relevant at the human (or any other) scale. Nothing you'd probably be able to do against the force governing the strange, emerging pattern anyway.
The fact that this is legitimately the best ending is one of the worst things about the game.
I have played the trilogy twice first time i chose to control and i got to see joker and the others get out of the shuttle and that was it. The second time i chose to destroy and the game ended with the shuttle door opening and that was it i didn't get to see joker and the others come out it ended wit the door opening can somebody explain to me why it ended there.
Everyone died
Realistically, I wonder how that actually works...it's a power conduit. For all Shep knew, that could've basically depowered/destroyed the Conduit.
Shepard: ...why isn't anything happening?
Star Child: That was the signal antenna! Fooled you, I was an agent for the Reapers all along :D!
It's likely either a metaphor, or Shepard destroyed a power regulator.
I had like 7200 War assets at 50% (3600) and I had the 'breathing shepard' ending? I thought you had to have more to get that?
i thought it was 5000
it could be "active"
after importing your character from 1-3 this really hits you hard so i understand what you mean. I hate that this series makes you fall in love with all the characters, it makes it hard to let go.
why did they build the crucible and not just a giant gun that can one shot reaper ships or something?
Javik would be proud.
Canon ending confirmed 2020
Alliances are broken all the time. There will never be an alliance that lasts until the end of time unbroken. Synthetic will at some point find a reason to make war with organics.
I dont think the crew let Shepard. I think it is more like they were flying to save their lives. Maybe if they had not been caught they would have come back to look fond him.
I have never played any of the games, but I thought the endings were good. Maybe thats because I was not attached to him at all.
Not gonna lie i did get teary eyed during this!
Haven't seen the non-extended cut ending in a long time. Forgot how much it blows.
Incredible ending to an incredible game and series!! Definitely the best trilogy EVER!!
Well it's still "life" that you can save, but it's really matter of opinion :) i think the major problem of endings is that they don't really show consequence of your decision, most odd is "control", you have 0 idea what you actually order them to do, is control only momental or permanent? If it's permanent it actually can be lighter version of destroy, if you keep them away forever or even extinct them, organics still can create synthetics, but old synthetic life still exists.
It really does not matter if Saren think the same, or else being half human half machine have some bad side effects, this ending actually end the whole synthetic vs organic conflict that bring pain to this universe. If what Catalyst is saying is true, the whole conflict was big misunderstanding and Reapers are just a tool and in end it's not matter if they alive or not, there reason of existence is ended. Again, do Shepard life and mindless revenge is worth life of synthetics?
Ive actually never seen the ending with the normandy blowing up like that?
oh okay thanks, that makes much more sense. Cause based on what I heard I was expecting a much worse ending than what I got.
I suppose, but on the final charge, it is only Commander Shepard and a few other soldiers charging towards the "relay", I suppose? How did Anderson get there is all a question mark, but in my memory none of the crew went with him on the final push.
The crew probably assumed Shepard's death when Harbinger fired his laser at him.
*after the Star Child's bullshit spiel of choices* Shepard: I....I can't. SC: What? Shepard: one man can't decide the fate of the universe....I'm done. SC: then Shepard *eyes glow orange and voice gets deeper* IT IS TIME FOR YOU TO DIE. Shep: What?!?!?
It's lazyness. I didn't pay $60 to imagine an ending. I've had the end of my machinimaDOTcom series figured since I started it. But they left it open to interpretation??????? Oh, we didn't feel like giving a real ending, just use your imagination.
when i saw joker's face and this music played .. man tears
how do i get endings where normandy catches on fire? i just did my first playthrough back in the end of january 2013 and i just got an ending where nothin happens to the normandy and they just fly away from the planet afterwards
Wait, I don't understand the bad ending part. Yes they were terriblle but which part are they mainly talking about? The one where Joker is on the random planet or the destroy, control, and synthesize options?
I think, just think.
That the Normandy is running away from the Mass Relays as it is being destroyed, the reapers left and the Crucible released a massive blast of energy that would destroy anything in it's path. So Joker ran.
it would kill Joker's girlfriend EDI and all other synthetics. I chose Synthesis or Control
Watch the extended cut ending, Hacket says they can rebulid/repair everything that was destroyed. Yes Edi and the geth die but at least the reapers are destroyed. Shepard survives Bioware even said so.
Exactly you have never played mass effect, I to would most likely think the same as you if I hadn't played it too. Just compare it to the mass effect 2 ending.
I'm just going to be honest....the dead space writers probably would have handled this better see what I mean in the next comment
I got this ending. It may be the best one but still I hate it
SPACE MAGIC :D
this is confusing why the fuck is joker running from that....it wont kill him but how the hell was he still running
I find it hard to care about EDI and the Geth I'm not saying I don't like them but we don't see them dying. Who
Still one of my fav games of all time even after all these years. Came back just to remember.
This has been on my mind for 3 weeks , I have even watch my ending I have a video of it on youtube. at the same time I playing the game ending and some time the Illusive is walking around behind anderson and my game frizzy for a second and then starts again when this happen I don't get the last choices ? but I have gotten the last choices even with 6000 EMS but have not with 6133 EMS like I say I'm watching it and I got him kill with 6000 but I can replay a save file with 6133 and not kill him
There is something very wrong with my game ? I have never finish the game with less then 6000 EMS . And I have got all the 3 ending before you can get 4000 EMS just doing the plant scan only and doing any side mission , But the thing I having a problem with is why do I only get the choices when the lllusive man shot himself sometimes ? even if I have 100% P/R and over 6100 EMS and sometimes I do, is there something else that you need to do also or is my game just bug.
All this is so stupid there is no best ending if you die!! everybody just need to pick the ending that you like . Shepard and Anderson die in every choice so really your only choice is what type of world do you won't it be afterward ? that the real choice nothing else , My best ending was I kill the illusive man and pick the middle green choice but you need 6000 EMS you can't miss any side missions to get 6000 EMS very hard . I have hear 4000, 5000 you need 6000 EMS to get all the choices.
I know everyone is entitled to their opinion, but you have to be really conformist if you liked how this game originally ended, I actually chuckled when I saw this example of rushed work, but of course, that's because I recently just bought the game and haven't downloaded the Extended Cut so I could see for myself how much shite of an ending this was, also, I just paid $20 bucks for the game, so I can't but feel bad for the people who bought it at $60 initially D:
It is a DREAM: 1 tress from the nightmares are behind u. 2 black lines are in the corners of the screen when ur talking to the Crazy Man. 3 JOKER NVR RETREATS!! but he did. 4 ur love interest is on the Normandy if he/she is with u in London. 5 Sheperds breath in rubble, the citadel is made of metal. rubble is from the debris near the conduit. ME4 will probly b 1 hour gameplay, if theres one
Then you don't know that much about sci fi. Most sci fi universes are built logically within their own logic and possibilies established over the time. For example, much of the ME technology works with the element zero. This ending abandonds everything, begins with simple stuff like: Why would someone shoot a machine's tube to activate it?! up to things like how your crew got to the Normany, no logical explanation. And a deus ex machina in a case like this is an unforgiveable literaric mistake.
That's another good reason. There's also the fact that Shepard's armor is all busted up. And come to think of it, the people representing the endings? The endings represent their goals: Saren wanted coexistence between organics and synthetics, Illusive Man wanted to control Reapers, and Anderson wanted to destroy Reapers. By choosing an ending, you're fulfilling that person's goals. And which one is the only one who wasn't your enemy? Anderson.
Well right now, I pray that the Indoctrination Theory is actually correct, because it is undeniably a really great explanation and just fills in the gaps really well. Everything just really adds up. Shepard is only human after all, so he can definitely get indoctrinated. Maybe it's true, or maybe we're just grasping at straws because of the shock of the ending. But without the Theory, we wouldn't really have any hope for a better ending. Just my two cents.
The first time I got to the part where Harbinger blasts the portal into the Citdel killing everyone, I didn't know 2 of my squadmates would die. I broke down because well I picked Ashley and Garrus...2nd playthrough, picked squadmates who I didnt care for. But when I got the perfect ending. I broke down yet again. idgaf if the endings were BS. They were emotional as fuck, especially when Joker was pushing the Normandy to its limits to escape. My face was blood red with tears that day.
...I don't even know for sure what ending I got. I just finished the game last night and I shot the that glass tube. Then the crucible did its shit and destroyed the reapers and the mass relays. As for joker the scene ends at the place crass landing and the scene ends at the door about to open. Someone help me out please?
I ended the game with 3870 EMS soooo close to perfect ending with no multiplayer mordin an thane died in my playthrough thane died cause I didnt know kirrahe can be saved in ME1 I cried with my ending I put my dna in the crucible so the reapers an organics live in peace (i.e everyone has green eyes) I liked my ending my shepard died a fucking hero im proud of that
Bear in mind that at the time the extended cut didn't exist. As far as we were aware, the mass relays had all gone supernova and destroyed the galaxy. It's easy to look back now and see common sense but for the fans that had devoted 5 years and 100 hours of gameplay into this franchise, the ending was a kick in the balls. At the time that is. Now it's just funny.
In a way it didn't destroy the galaxy, All of the mass relays are gone, That means the entire victory fleet is still at the sol system, The entire geth flotilla was there. How are they going to get back? How are the krogans,turians,batarians,elcor, The asari How are they gong to get back? Bear in mind the turains can't even eat the same food as the rest of the races.
But in the end, Shepard's still human. A human who has seen and done amazing things, and like you said, become a icon, but in the end, still a human. But indeed, Shepard is epic :D. As said, I really hope the Indoctrination theory really does end up being true. It would probably be the biggest plot twist by far in the history of video games.
im fed up with people saying how the ending of mass effect 3 is rubbish and it could have been better. at the end of the day bioware are absolutly brilliant and making this third game so emotional and powerful. so all you haters can jog on because there is no doubt bioware have done it again, and theres no doubt that it will get game of the year again, well done bioware.
Well I guess he realized it was pretty much the end for him (even if he survived the explosion, he was already horribly injured, prolly would of bled out before anyone found him) and decided "To hell with it. Might as well get closer for a better shot". Remember, one of his arms was really messed up, his aim was likely greatly affected.
Yeah that's true someone else could have went to open it. But it is odd that they wouldn't include it in the game. Doesn't this also mean that Anderson and TIM aren't necessarily dead? The whole ending in general just confuses me, but I think the part that makes the least sense if the Normandy crash scene. That doesn't really make sense in any scenario...
Aww I agree with you now, the old endings suck. Yeah sorry didn't know you haven't see the extended cut.
I know that how it had to be. I have hear others say that it do. but that never made sense to me anyway . I never expected to him to kill himself if I didn't have 100% P/R I'm not that crazy! LOL . I would like to thank you for your time my game is just bug but I steal like it a lot GOOD BYE.
Shepard could die easily from being shot with bullets in the gameplay. How the hell could he survive re-entry if he's not impervious to bullets? Hell, he's missing CHUNKS of his armor in the end---including his helmet! How'd he survive re-entry....and breathe in space?
II was originaly going to destroy them but I didnt want to destroy all of galactic civilization while I was at it pluss I liked the geth and EDI to much to kill them outright so I picked control and hoped I could just fly all the reapers into the sun without killing pretty much everybody.