Mass Effect 3 Extended Cut: Destroy (Best) Ending
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- The best variant of the Destroy ending (no, not THE best ending out of all of them) with new cutscenes and epilogue slides from the Extended Cut DLC; Reapers and synthetics are destroyed, Earth is saved, the Galaxy rebuilds itself, the Normandy crew and Shepard survive.
The same Stargazer scene with the old man and kid still occurs after the credits, so I did not include it.
I had ~13500 War Assets/Effective Military Strength (100% Readiness rating through multiplayer). Imported save; RPG mode.
This is the only "right" ending for me. Control is just a lie and actually betraying everything you have ever fight for in ME. Synthesis seems nice i agree, but its flawed in its core. Merging two things together doesnt make it better. What i loved on geth was, how they were different from us, yet we still could cooperate and they were actually more "organic" then some characters. You would took it from them and you would take our traits, from us. Creating something, that kinda looks like that AI from ME 2 Overlord DLC. Forcing this on the whole galaxy, it just seems monstrous... Refusal is just giving up and middle finger to the catalyst, its nice, but it solves nothing.
Why destroy won it for me? First, we know that catalyst logic is plain retarded, that he lies to you about things. Example is that he tells you that you will die too, but there you are, breathing. Another question is, where actually are you? The citadel exploded... And thats the reason why its kinda hard to bealive fully to the consequences of this ending. Did geth and edi died? I dont really know, nor it matters in the canon story, becouse we are moving to another galaxy anyway.
So for me, Geth didnt died, same with EDI, the story has ended. Cycle is broken, reapers, the abominations of flawed AI, are destroyed. The galaxy will decide its fate, not some hybrid-like-machine-octopus creations of the madman.
Look at memorial wall in Normandy. One label says "EDI", Second says "Legion"
I know, its what i have for my canon, not like it matters.
The "catalyst" IS the Reapers, it even admits that: "I embody the collective intelligence of all Reapers". And there is a difference between murder and collateral damage. What the Reapers do is murder against species, that is genocide. What happens to Synthetics in Destroy is collateral damage and the "catalyst" is to blame for that- it is the aggressor. If it would honestly offer a Destroy option, it would just direct the Reapers into a star- no casualties. It forced Shep's hand.
did anyone notice the gun shepard is using is the same gun mordin gave him on omega when they first met?
And it still needs some damn calibrations...
I would essentially have augmented the EC endings to do a few things, had I my way.
Rather than the infamous "Breath" scene, have an injured Shepard (if he/she survives) awaken in a hospital room somewhere, having been unconscious for several weeks. Then, after a few seconds, have his/her Love Interest (or Joker if there was none) enter the room, happy to see he/she is awake. Before the credits roll, Shepard manages to crack a weak, but warm smile.
Yes.
If Shep survives, that means EDI survives too. Because Shep has some robotic stuff in his body too.
+Ceyhun Akalın I am only 30% while EDI is a full AI, even her name was on the wall.
I should go.
''I'' should go, or I SHOULD go ?
+Ceyhun Akalın I should let you go?
Commander Shepard No, you SHOULD play Citadel DLC.
Ceyhun Akalın but i did...even tali was imitating the normandy
This is the best ending and the only one that makes the most sense with the overall completion of your mission in Mass Effect. Shepard's mission has always been to defeat(destroy) the Reapers, regardless of the type of Cmdr. Shepard anyone chooses to play as and the choices they make. End of story.
Gee, so I can't have a different opinion on this one?
Sure you can. The game is all about choices but none of the other choices truly fit with the primary mission regarding the Reapers, which is to destroy them. Finding a way to destroy the Reapers is repeated numerous times throughout the trilogy. It's pretty obvious lol.
jamilah razzaq I know, it's just as the leader guy/gal your apt to change the method any way seen fit.
jamilah razzaq But the geth die. I liked the geth :(
oilerfan871 I understand, I like the geth too, but sometimes sacrifices have to be made. That's how the real world works.
I bet most of us improved our EMS count by "exotic" means and doomed all of the galaxy's synthetic beings just to see Shepard survive.
+TheIceWarrior It's really stupid. Even if you don't consider them life, I think everyone else in the citadel wards dies
I think most were evacuated from the citadel when the reapers were coming
Catalyst said that actually Shepard will die also as half synthethic... and he survived. It makes no chance if it was true so truly it was just a lying Catalyst trying to trick Shepard.
Control/Synthesis both rob the galaxy of self-determination. Synthesis, you force everyone to become half robotic Things, no choice, no opinion on the matter, you force it on them all. In control, you make the Reapers into galactic Big Brother that keeps everyone in line whether they like it or not. Destroy is the only ending for galactic self-determination, freedom, and non-forced cooperation between the species. Plus, it appears that Shepard might live through it all. Who doesn't want that? XD
I know its been more than 8 years, BUT what are your other choices? 1.Take control of the reaper for a while(noone knows if Shephard consciounces will be enough to forever control reapers). 2. Synthesis - as you said, rob people of the choice. 3. Destroy - Willingly cause massive genocide(Geth after Legion sacrifice obtained true intelligence and developed their personality), not to mention killing the AI(EDI), who saved your ass more then once. or 4. refusal - nothing you did, didn't matter, cause reapers win.
So endings summarized: 1. Submission(to reapers and the ultimate consciounces of Shephard) or genocide(killing tens of thousands if not millions of synthetics with developed personality, not to mentions thousands different cultures which were harvested before would be lost) or mutation(synthesis) or giving up(refusal).
The decision to harvest organics to make it "safe" for more organics in the future is based off of one cycle. The Leviathans made a mistake creating such a powerful AI. A lesson sure to be remembered though time of the now reaper-less universe.
Nope it keeps happening and will happen in the future Tim and others kept creating ai even after the reapers were discovered to be ai they won’t stop destroy dooms the galaxy in the future it is the idiots choice control again delay the new ai Shepard doesn’t have the emotions needed to lead the reapers and eventually will come to the same conclusion as the catalyst the only solution is synthesis as reject again will just delay permanent galactic organic life extinction
The only thing we owe them is a shot with Harbingers name on it.
And Ten Trillion shots with the rest of the Reapers names on them. Everything got damaged, NOT destroyed, we CAN rebuild. The Protheans made their own Mini-Mass Relay (The conduit) with just a handful of scientists locked in an underground bunker and a few boxes of scrap. We can sure as hell simply repair a Mass Relay and the Citadel.
a ending for a brilliant trilogy
From what I remember, this ending destroys ALL synthetic life... I was a little disappointed that they didn't show the Geth race dying because of this ending. I think it should have been included to hammer in the fact that you destroyed "race" that only wanted to co-exist but was often misunderstood and forced to retaliate. Plus it was a consequence that was explained to you by the Harbinger, so I was expecting to see it when I did the Destroy ending way back. Not my fave ending because of that consequence. I ended up preferring the control ending because in essence, everyone that was still alive at that point gets to live. Including Shepard in "deified" form.
+Derek Tan Many people believe that the Geth and EDI dying was just a Harbringer ploy, and they don't really. And failure to confirm that one way or another is proof.
+PurpleBadger actually, failure to confirm it is not counted as proof, because it also is a failure to deny it. there is no mention or depuction of the geth or EDI in the destruction ending. i vaguely remember seeing a pic of the geth and quarians together in control ending, when i managed to save both races, however. but then again, it's been a really long time ago. either way, i didnt like the destroy ending partly because of this ambiguity.
Derek Tan It gives us the chance to debate it. Rather than showing us the Geth being destroyed and the effect it has on people to impact the sacrifice, or as 'punishment'. In my dealings with Bioware that's definitely something they'd play on.
iMHO catalyst lied to Shepard all synthethics will die. He said Shepard will also die as half synthethic but somehow he is still alive in this ending.
Geth are basically just computer programs that can exist in any hardware, so those that were in their synthetic bodies died, those who were in other hardware, quarian suits for example, survived the blast.
I think this is the best ending; Control basically transforms Shepard in a damn machine, something he fought for years, making him loose his human side... Synthesis transforms EVERYONE in husks V2.0; and refusal... well, makes you feel you achieved nothing along the series.
Destroy is the best: it shows that Shepard was sure that organic life could find a solution to make a better future without chaos...
Destroy is the only logical ending. It's what Shepard would have chosen, every time, no doubt.
likely the Quarians would rebuild the Geth because, well, they need them to survive now and so they can live on Rannoch, they just won't enslave them like during the Morning War. As for EDI, well, she may be gone for good, even her data and memory.
Better then the other one. Too bad the pulse couldn't be altered to only destroy Reaper tech/ai. Granted, even in that case, EDI would still die being based off reaper tech. And Shepard lives. Imagine another DLC picking up where that left off, right as Garrus puts the plaque up the door opens and in walks a wounded, limping Shepard. "Hey guys, why all the sad faces?" While everyone simultaneously shits themselves and drops everything to the floor.
While I do think this is the better ending, I see a lot of people defending this ending by going ''oh they can rebuild EDI and the Geth''. Two things wrong with this. First of all you don't get to have your cake and eat it too. It's war, sacrifaces have to be made and in this instance it's EDI and the Geth. Second of all, EDI is a rogue VI (something that shouldn't even be possible) combined with Reaper tech, something that's pretty damn hard to replicate. Also nobody would rebuild the Geth, are you insane? No way in hell anyone would take that risk. There's still a ban on AI, and after the Reaper wars they'll probably be enforced even harder.
I kinda hope that the people will be more humane towards synthetics in the future seeing how synthetics fought for them to end the Reapers. I know that they can't be rebuild again. I'm mostly sad about the geth, less about EDI.
I can't understand how Destroy ending kills all you've work hard enough for EDI and the geth through the series, but the Control ending doesn't make you control all synthetics as well. Bioware really fucked up here.
Destroy ending made no sense. As did synthetic. Destroy only works if you were very poor in playing the game. Control was the right choice.....the only choice.
The funny thing is, it is not even confirmed that Geth and EDI actually die in the Destroy ending.
"we don´t see the Geth die so there´s no reason that the Guardian isn´t being completely honest"
-Jessica Merizan, Community Manager at BioWare-
That's your opinion but I think it's the worst. It goes against everything Shepard has stood for in all 3 games, everyone with green eyes and shit seems silly to me. In destroy Edi and the Geth may die but so do the Reapers which was your goal all along + Sheaprd lives in destroy. Not trying to start an argument mate, just stating my opionion.
The ending the Reapers deserve but not the ending the Geth deserve. The Reapers deserve extinction but the Geth deserve freedom. Wish there was a way to slaughter the entire Reaper race without driving the Geth to extinction as well.
***** Do you still feel that way about Legion?
***** That's exactly what the Reapers say about organic races.
+cagrie1234 How is it different? The Reapers follow a flawed logic that synthetic and organic races cannot coexist. So they use synthetic races and wipe out organic races. Once the organic races are dead they turn on their synthetic allies. By the time Mass Effect 3 rolls around, the Geth want to be independent but are still enthralled by the Reapers. Freeing them allows them to join the fight for freedom and survival. They want to survive, they want to be free. Saying they can't be because they're synthetic is discriminatory.
+cagrie1234 Reaper...
+cagrie1234 And you are such a space bigot
I know it's emotionally difficult to not save the Geth and EDI, but really!? You actual question the fate of the galaxy based on a mistaked AI consensus and one "living" AI synthetic? Sacrifices are going to be made, and although the Geth and EDI don't really deserve that fate, it is for billions or trillions of lives that are affected for generations to come. Let your ethics and logic influence such a choice.
It's called the best ending in the video title because it is the best destroy ending you can get, depending on your E.M.S. Here, E.M.S. is high enough to get the best possible destroy ending.
Also, the whole point of Mass Effect was to destroy the Reapers, to not concede to their will. The Destroy option to me is the more heroic.
Well done Shepard. You've destroyed the Reapers once and for all. Civilization will pick up and recover...and we'll do it on our terms.
"Shepard did unethical things during the course of the games." And guess who forced his hand? The Reapers.
Destroy IS the right thing to do. You end the Reaper threat once and for all, live to tell the tale, and put all those species out of their misery.
You're saying instead of allowing all those people to rest in peace, you're going to damn them and simply use them for personal gain? Jesus, Why don't you give Cerberus a call?
Compared to becoming the exact thing you were fighting, and forcing evolution upon everyone and letting the Reapers walk (Something that NOBODY who has experienced the Reapers onslaught first-hand would allow, hinting at some form of indoctrination.) Yeah, I'd say it's the best option of them. Might not exactly be nicest thing to do I admit, but nevertheless the right thing.
I'm with you.
Personally I don't see why someone would think that just because everyone is now part machine that it's going to magically end all wars.
There are Still differences, and difference breeds conflict. Ooh, now synths understand organics a bit better. So what. They are still considerably different. This isn't factoring in wars over resources, territory, culture/beliefs, simple misunderstandings, future rogue A.I.s that won't have the benefit of the crucibles green mojo, ect.
It's all worth it for that final breath at the end.
lmao I am still pissed about that.
All that work for a little gasp at the end.
yes....EA is to blame.... because this isnt THE FIRST GAME they have fucked up. First ME, next they will be fucking up Star Wars.(literally)
The relays arn't destroyed, just damaged. Pay attention to the ending dialogue, it says they repair them.
This ending is much better than killing everyone.
Eh... It's not like the synthetics can't be repaired or, at least, salvaged, unlike certain organic individuals...
This is about all the crucible can offer. It is a tough decision, but it has to be made. If you refuse, you throw away everything you and the others did to stop the reapers and build the crucible. For me, Destroy is the one and only option here. I do not think that keeping your hands clean is worth dooming the whole galaxy. You might disagree on that, but I can´t think of any justification to pick Refusal.
>helps Legion and Geth
>destroys all synthetics anyways
Even though the ending is cliche......It's still awesome to see a small sense of victory in your efforts with Shepard. The celebration of your Allies Krogan and Asari....epic. Joker's face when told they have to leave Shepard...Emotional....Gathering of your crew members to hold a Vigil for the fallen on the Normandy...Very Touching.....Thank you Bioware for helping to expand and improve the experience...Looking forward to the ME 3 DLC.....
Control: Synthetic Path (Represented by Shepard becoming completely synthetic and ruling the reapers which are a mostly synthetic army. Not something to be proud of, and also what the IM always wanted, so Shepard proves his point if they pick this wack ending)
Synthesis: Synthetic/Organic Weird Hybrid Path (Represented by Shepard literally fucking the galaxy and making synthetics and organics become understanding of each other. Supposed to be the best choice, but it just comes off as a strange and somewhat uncomfortable ending. Better than control though, I guess, or maybe not?)
Destroy: Organic Path (Represented by Shepard destroying all synthetic life, also represented by this path being the only one where Shepard keeps their natural body when selecting it. No strange dissolving or eyes changes. Rip EDI and other robo bois, but you can always rebuild'em. Organics? Not so much)
I don't know about you, but I'll take organic over the other two any day.
You can't rebuild EDI and the Geth.
Choose your favourite colour: red, green or blue.
To me this is the only good ending. It was like a book end for the whole trilogy, ever since the vision on Eden Prime, the mission was to stop the reapers, which to me meant they needed to be put down before they put us down, I know how controversial the ending to ME3 was but out of all of them I was completely fine with this one, I actually even liked it.
And what about the Geth? What about Legion?
+KnightThunder05 when it comes to robots, synthetics, or even people losing limbs, I'm never to concerned with, due to how easy and widly games make it to replace those things. It was either the geth died or everyone in the galaxy died.
Nicholas Martinez For the Geth this war isn't just about survival and trying to help the "Creators", it's about obtaining freedom. The Geth throughout the Mass Effect series are mostly enslaved by the Reapers. Just one more thing that the Reapers alone deserve to go extinct for.
+KnightThunder05 thats why I like this ending, the reapers get put down for their repeated cycle of extinction and enslavement, and the galaxy almost gets a fresh start, but it wouldn't be much of a decision if the death of the geth wasnt apart of this option.
Nicholas Martinez True enough, the series is full of hard choices. I've railed against the synthesis ending even though to me it seems the best option. The problem is it doesn't punish the Reapers, they get to go free after everything they've done they get to walk away. Control seems like it MIGHT be a good ending, the Reapers spent centuries enslaving and destroying and now they themselves are slaves.
If there will be a Mass Effect 4, I wish it will go like this
1. "Destroy": Whether Shepard survives or not, the love interest will look for him/her. There will be 2 endings: they meet (only for survived Shepard ver), or they wont meet but leaving the love interest in understanding of Shepard's decision and sacrifice (only for not survived Shepard ver). I tried to think about the plot for the survived Shepard ver with them not meeting in the end, but I cant come up with a good plot..
Renegade ending, or the right ending? Because to me, controlling or merging with something you've spent the last three games fighting against just isn't that attractive. In fact, I think sticking middle fingers up to Harbinger would be a better second option.
Yeah, but if he lives, there's the possibility of, depending on who he's with, making little Shepards to take over the galaxy saving business for him. He's done enough, I think, and deserves a break XD.
Believe whatever you want. As another poster said, this stuff doesn't happen for no reason. They'll probably make him surviving in the destro ending canon for the next game.
Bioware even said it themselves, look it up.
I never understood why Shep had to walk towards the generator and get "killed" in the explosion
he/she did not die as you can see him/her breath at the end. though this only happens if you have enough war assets
nightmareaudi I know that's why I wrote killed like 'killed'
Maybe because she knew that she will die anyway or even worse - that she didn't deserve to live because of her choice.
Hurlock alpha That Is A Good Point Actually
I think it's just desperation. The final battle for her.
Things i'm glad about
The relays didn't just blow up
Showed the other planets
Showed why joker left
And be realistic.
The fleet you just rallied had their friends, comrades, and family either slaughtered or turned into horrible monsters. Which do you think is going to be the most realistic response to the order to stand down for 75% of the fleet?
(A. "Alright, we'll stand down."
(B. "Alright, we'll stand down AND make them accepted members of our society."
(C. "Fuck that noise! We didn't come all this way just to let those pieces of shit just walk away. They die! Here, and now!"
My point is: As long as people remember the Reapers and what the Geth did (assuming you got them on your side), new Synththics can be created that are not oppressed. When they live side by side with organics, they will be normal to the next generation just as colored people are normal to us today. Then there would be no fear, no oppression, no revolt, nothing, just coexistence. Of course, when you wait until people forgot, Synththic servants will be created, but this can be avoided.
And I could go into extreme detail about how Forced Evolution is an atrocity.
And I can go into even more detail about how automatically sending everybody to maximum potential, and removing any and all self-determination or further ability to evolve and learn makes life dull and pointless.
And even more into how after all the horrors and evils people have witnessed the Reapers commit, that pretty much everybody's going to have that "If I never see another Reaper, it will be too soon" mentality
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That person could really have the best reasons in the galaxy for doing it, that person could throw all the money in the universe at you, that person could be on his knees crying and begging and throwing pictures of his kids at you. That person could offer you the highest position of power the galaxy could have.
But you wouldn't care. If you have him on his knees, completely helpless, you're going to gun him down. Regardless of who he is, regardless of what he can do for you.
I think this is clearly the best ending. The Reapers are gone forever, most imprtant characters survive (some like Thane and Mordin would have died soon anyway). Shephard lives and will be able to live the life he/she diserves, together with his/her romance if there is one (what would be the point of a breathing scene which can be achieved through high war assets if Shephard did not survive? What would be the point of showing his romance suviving?) The synthethics? Sad, but no Ending is perfect.
EDI died because the whole galaxy was caught in the explosion,and all synthetics were destroyed.Shepard was probably still breathing because he was only part synthetic,so the organic part of him was still alive.He was found in the rubble because London and the Citadel were repaired in the future,and that rubble was in the present.The old man was probably a father in the future who was telling his son about the war with the Reapers and Shepard.Here,answers to all of your questions.
Anyone else notice how in the EC that the Mass Relays only sustain minor damage instead of being totally obliterated (which according to their own lore would have caused a supernova) and the Normandy's engine aren't blown off anymore. Hell it doesn't really seem like the Normandy took any damage at all. So much for not retconning the ending and having artistic integrity. I think they realized they did write themselves into a hole and they had to retcon to dig themselves out.
It's not the fact that the Reapers are Synthetics that made people hate them. It's what they did. Have you payed ANY attention over the games? Have you just covered your eyes whenever the Reapers showed how savage and evil they can be?
Those things do not deserve to exist, and going to any length to make sure they are wiped out from the face of the galaxy is justifiable on any conceivable moral scale.
People do NOT forget things like what happened on Earth and Thessia.
well I mainly speak for myself but all the endings have some level of evil to them destroy involves murdering al synthetics such as the Geth and EDI who in my file both were major war assets also the reapers are as much to blame as the indoctrinated cerburus-reaper troops were for their role in the war because the caytalist controlled them
You are talking about the grey zones of morale- just like The Illusive Man. It is not entirely wrong to connect you to Cerberus on that.
Of course you are generally right, there is more than black and white, Shepard is the perfect example. However, Reapers are not grey. Reapers are evil and that´s that. They never did anything good, they just kill or pervert organic life.
Wouldn't be surprised.
I find it funny how people are all the sudden referring to the Catalyst as the all-knowing saint, yet I only see him as that Surgeon from Max Payne 3. Throwing Bribe money at you and trying to claim he does important research and helps people in a desperate attempt to buy more sand for his hourglass.
Let´s assume you are right and eventually, new Reapers would be created (although I feel like I was indoctrinated doing that). There is plenty of time before that, Synthethics can be created to live together with Organics peacefully- you saw that this is possible when you end the Quarian-Geth war. If Synththics are not oppressed, they will not rebel. The cycle would be broken.
Because they want it to be a mystery, so they left all mention of it out, they pretty only showed it through them not putting up his name and him breathing, as for the explosion, well Shepard has gone through worse, his implants were probably destroyed, he might be able to live without them, there's no clear explanation, it's just implied that he's alive.
Yeah... like i said in the comments, it's what you make of it i suppose, they don't show if he dies or lives after he breathes, but you have no evidence that he died in that ending, i'm convinced he is alive, even Bioware calls this the "Shepard lives" ending.
Wow no-one even bothered to look for Shepard alive, let alone his body. That's only slightly mean of them... "Hey everyone the greatest hero ever just sacrificed himself, but let's just declare him dead and don't bother looking for his body!"
I hated synthesis. I just didn't like how you change every species into half synthetics. And those big glowy eyes? Eww. Control was alright, but again, big massive robots walking around everywhere? Nah.
Imagine Shepard waking up. Everyone shit their pants and someone dramaticly says: My GOD, Its been 15 yaers and now Reapres are back. Shepard:To the ReaperMobile Tananananana :P
Genocide of all synthetics suddenly doesn't mean much when they could just be rebuilt. Especially when they were expendable before.
It was an easy choice, to say the least.
In Control and Synthesis ending , Garrus puts Shepard's name on the memorial , on this one he doesn't , it just fades to black...
Best ending!
nothing earned comes without sacrifice... Yet with risk comes reward... Wake up Shepard...
That ending is too cheesy and family friendly. Shepard is supposed to be a bad ass.
Of course, I agree that Refusal is not an option for me and Destroy is the best one in my eyes.
But I can see why some people would prefer to pick Refusal instead of the other options presented.
if you listened to the kid, The kid said that we can repair synthetics
Couldn't they just rebuild EDI and the Geth though?
Consider what Shephard alrerady survived before. Bioware would not make a "Shephard-Alive"-ending just to let him die a few hours later.
Besides, Shephard knows where he is.
So the Catalyst is dead?
Now this is the ending I was looking for :D
Damn it.
Started to cry again because of this ending. ;_;
Looks like Shepard survived in this one.
He does, at expense of commiting genocide and killing one of his friends.
It's an intake, genius, him coming to. As in, he was knocked the fuk out, and just regained consciousness.
Not sure why I've been on a streak of binge watching Mass Effect videos but I ain't complaining. If I had to choose again, then it would be the synthesis ending. Why? EDI and the Geth survive, and they rebuild faster than if all synthetics were destroyed. It's implied that the reapers provide all archived knowledge from previous civilizations. Also, the Quarians will recover their immune systems' strength faster with the Geth around, which means Tali can have her home sooner. It is also implied that they all become immortal, so our favorite characters will live for a very long time. Shepard's death makes it all possible, so in my opinion that's the best ending.
teaming up with the people ive been trying to stop for 3 games didnt seem so awesome to me, nor did controlling them. i like the idea of the Reject ending, but why reject it if you could just kill them all?
As much as I hate EDI and the reformed Geth dying, any ending that leaves the Reapers intact and unharmed is automatically the bad ending for me
In my own point of view, the ending was a disappointment because they all looked the same. This "Best" ending is a good one to me, because it features the end of the war, and the human's victory over the Reapers. This, at least...
Shepard's death (?) could be the ultimate ideal of resistance against the Reapers, and the indoctrination many fell by.
Last, I guess the devs delt with different COLOURS because of the tight EA-time schedules.
EA is to blame for such crap. ME3 could have been ART.
And Shepard spits in the face of their entire reason for being. You unite the entire galaxy, organics and synthetics as one to defeat the Reapers, showing that their solution isn't even necessary.
Shepard bridges the gap and makes peace between the Quarians and the Geth, showing that conflict is Not inevitable; that they are capable of co-existing peacefully together if they put forth the effort to understand.
Why should we suffer for the failures of their creators? Their fate is not ours.
It's not really clear What synthesis does outside of making skin and eyes glow a retarded green. The extent and scope of the changes arn't really revealed; we can only speculate, but i'm not certain they would lose the ability to aspire or self-determinate. Their minds may be the same as before for all we know, just... expanded. After all, at the end, you see people cheering, celebrating the victory, and mourning those who perished, same as all the other endings. It requires more information.
The Quarians are fine, and they rebuild everything, or did you not even pay attention to the ending?
I'm with the Geth belief that "All sentient creatures should have the ability to Self-Determinate and Build Their Own Future." Control destroys this.
I've warmed up to Synthesis more, provided the Reapers vamoose after giving us their knowledge and let us do what we want with it(Self-Determination), but I wish they went into more detail about what it entailed. And I hate the glowy green shit.
who agrees the synthesis extended cut was the best? if only shepard lives. they really should continue this series. find some new threat or some shit, i'm fucking bored bioware. i hold you responsible for getting me addicted. I've played the full series twice now.
Well about the Normandy...my ending had a pretty low EMS so the Normandy still couldn't outrun the blast and crashed on the planet as normal. At the end it shows a slide of the Normandy being re-purposed into a settlement so that the crew could survive out there.
So it still doesn't explain anything? What happens to the crew once they leave the planet? etc.... I reckon it was better knowing that they were trapped there, rather than let them go and onto a new adventure that we dont get to see :(
They did change the ending, the Relay gets destroyed on the original ending, not only damaged.
I don't understand your comment sorry. You ddin't really reply to comment, you seemed to talk about something else.
Synthesis is the by the best ending. Enough said. ME4 revealed today, Director wants to explore new galaxies with reaper tech. New enemy arrives from Andromeda galaxy known as "Devil machines"
Nope youre wrong, my goal was understanding the reapers and why the cycle and why every time shepards speaks with a reaper they always tell them they are doing this to protect us..
How do you get Garrus in the cockpit....? 🤔
It’s always Ashley for me
...Hmmm, on another note that galactic light show would be visible across the entire universe. Who knows what attention THAT might garner. *hint hint for more ME's*
So.... does that mean we get to see him in ME4? (Obviously, we won't be seeing EDI or the geth in that game if it ever does come out.)
In my mind, the destroy is not the best ending because of the fact that in 100 years' time, people will start with the AI shennanigans again because people forget. Even in the real world, mistakes repeat themselves because new generations haven't experienced what made the old generation what it was and are therefore not compelled to obey the "no AI" rule as much, and it gets worse with each new generation. The catalyst mentions this and it's right. Just because you united as a galaxy against a common foe, when that foe is gone and defeated, the alliance disolves after a time.
A definitive ending to the Reaper threat is either control or synthesis....refusal or destroy means repetition.
But that's just my opinion, no need to go spreading it around the ship or anything...
I love Admiral Hackett's voice.
I think destroy is the worst ending, yeah, shepard survives, for that both edi and all the geth (if you saved them) must die, throwing legion's sacrifice to the garbage... I dont think (a paragorn) shepard would do that
Destroy is pretty anti-thetical to a paragon run because theyd not destroy the autonomy EDI and the Geth have shown to be equal to organically. People can be mad that they don’t like the endings but they work. The end is such a huge galactic level situation that those options are all that’s left and paradoxically Shepard has so much power but is powerless in the situation because the situation is so beyond comprehension
Is it possible for Geth and EDI to live if you pick "destroy?" I swear they lived in my game. I could be misremembering it tough, been a long time since I played unfortunately.
People who say "but the Reapers are EVIL!!!" should think about the Krogan--they, too, have been pretty evil, and all the races have been evil at different times and to varying degrees, but they all have their proper place in the grand scheme of things once Shepard has done his peacemaker bit. The Reapers did evil, but they weren't merely pure evil. Even the Illusive Man wasn't pure evil; he thought he was doing good in his own way.
It's sad to know that no matter what you do in the end Shepard will die. I almost cried when I first saw the ending through my experience (FemaleShep - Extended Cut - Destroy - 5300- romanced Kaidan in ME1 & ME3 but Romanced Thane in ME2). all those people that died in the war, and knowing that Shepard had to leave it all behind & give up her life so that the galexy would be at peace.
I'm probably one of the few in the world that enjoyed the ending. Was heart touching. :'(
3. Synthesis. Even after having transformed into a new existence, the people of the galaxy still retain their memories, including the love interest. Thus, the love interest will search for Shepard, but as s/he advances through the story, s/he will find the truth of the phenomenon. (I thought of making the new people oblivious to the recent event, but it confused me of "why are we here and what are we?" thought that the new people will think, but only the love interest got signs of his/her exp
outstanding. I cant help but wonder if destroy was the best way to go in the long run. Though itll always be my choice as my characters dont do self sacrifice at least hopelessly, I get this awesome uneasiness regarding what is to come after seeing the beings of light theory which you should all watch- in essence the poster provides a plethora of key points that the reapers, powerful as they are, are a failsafe to keep something worse at bay, only briefly eluded to as the "machine devils." me4?