Fermenting syrup and Essential oils
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Sugar syrup Feed additives
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Frozen north indeed! Lol
Looking forward to the chat🥂
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Dear Kamon, add to your sugar syrup 0,2g/l of thymol + citric acid (pH good for bees). Thymol has to be dissolved in 95% alcohol first, then you can keep your syrup tightly closed for many months. BTW they did studies on low pH syrup and it is better for wintering bees. I live in harsh climate in the mountains. Greetings from Poland.
first dissolve in alcohol, then add water with dissolved lecithine
Hi, I want ask you what weight of citric acid do you use
@@fercho9003 my goal is ~4pH of syrup. You have to buy strips to measure pH of liquid, then add what you need like ~10 teaspoons citric acid on 100 liters, but it depends on your water (parameters), so you have to measure it.
Ian and you online sharing techniques awesome looking soo forward to this! 🙂
I would love to know how Ian managed in the winter before he had that beautiful temperature controlled shed.
Winter outside and wrapped, he explained i one vid
YES! at 7:19 i watch him also and those studies changed teh way I feed bees! I sub to both of you very interesting mr reynolds! some keepers don't believe in feeding at all ever. very helpful thank you!!!
got aheart from kamon!!!!! my week is looking great!
I totally agree with you adding smells to the sugar does cause more robbing we add thymol but also wasps recognise the smell is food and more difficult to get keep them out of The Hives.👍👍
I agree aswell, simply syrup
My Dad use to say to me as a kid "Sometimes less is more". While watching your video loading up your nucs I was just once again floored at how you manage your mites. I know there are some frustrations with wintering that far north but gee wiz I wish we produced as few mites as you all do in your short season. All well, I guess I will just have to comfort myself with getting to fool with bees longer.
dont forget about my constant complaining about winter, that lingures and lingures on and on
I have always found answers on questions about "essential oils" to be lacking. Over the years I have not seen those pushing the "natural" methods to not have a great success rate. I am not saying that a particular substance has no value, but that those promoting them tend to not have good answers.
Thanks Kaman. I'm in my second year and had my first hive robbed a week ago. I do add a teaspoon of Honey b Healthy to my sugar water (it smells great) but you're right, I never thought how the smell can promote robbing. The things we learn from you experienced beekeepers. Thanks again!
I jumped on the essential oils band wagon years ago and thought I was doing good.Well I ran out one day and had a drum of syrup made up so I just used it without oils.Well there was no difference with or without the oils.I feed nothing but sugar syrup now.
Pretty much the same story here. Just another expense!
Thanks K&L for the video. It didn’t have your normal ending so I’m just wondering if it didn’t all upload. I had some sugar syrup ferment and a friend put it on one of my 5 frame nucs and they absconded. The bad syrup was the only thing that I could figure why they left. Since then I’m very careful with it and don’t mix it until I’m putting it on the hive. Please ask Ian approximately how many tons of honey did he harvest this season. Thanks and keep up the good work.
Wow!!! Two fo my favorite beekeeper pros connecting online?!?! That's an opportunity of a lifetime. I can't miss it. Looking forward to it :) Thanks Kamon
I totally agree. Straight sugar syrup!
Kamon watching your blog this summer about the realities of making a profit from beekeeping coupled with Ian's definition of a beekeeper! and experiencing my own work load this year on a hobby gone wrong. I appreciate all the valuable info that is provided by you and Ian. My question is about Marketing what does a commercial beekeeper need to sale his honey for per pound to be profitable? how can the industry make more money per pound to compensate you hard working people for this priceless commodity? You guys got bees figured out "bee guru's" treatments queens flows extracting your so smart. I hope you can discuss with our friend up north strategies to increase profitability. Please use some time in your think tank tonight to improve your bottom line. All the hard work in the world is for not if you can't make money. I look forward to the collaboration :)
Hey Kamon, was that a chicken in your arms or were you just happy to see me post?
I use bleach in my summer feed, but feed straight sugar, maybe with vitamins and electrolytes added, in my winter feed. Have never had a problem with fermentation. Empty jugs get a bit moldy if not washed out though.
Looking forward to you and Ian chatting.
Randy Oliver Scientific beekeeping has an article on adding bleach to syrup. Studies have been done and showed bees lived longer with bleach added at a certain ratio. The article is a good read and can be found on his site. I have used 1tbsp per 5 gal for years and no ill effects. The chlorine bonds chemically with the sugar when mixed.
You sound like Bob & Doug McKenzie from the Great White North LP "AAY" Probably too young to remember it. Comedy from Rick Moranis.
What happened with to the video with Ian? I wasn’t able to watch live and was so looking forward to seeing it!
Hey Adam due to it being streamed on zoom to RUclips we are having to do things a little different. The video is processing right now and we will have that made available as soon as possible!
Thanks for getting back to me so quickly. You and Ian are my two favorite channels and this collab is awesome! I can’t wait to see it! You’re both so knowledgeable and I have learned a lot of things that have worked well in my own apiary.
Thank you very much for this video.
Recently I started feeding sugar water and my bees are not bad in robbing yet.
Glad it helped J&B
Great shout out for Fredrick Dunn! He is one of my favorites!
Fred is a pretty cool dude.
Hey K! Thought I’d make sure that you knew about the Trails to Oishii Tokyo show S3/E28. It’s all about honey and beekeeping in Japan! I smiled when they introduced the Japanese version of Kamon! You must look it up!
I love your channel and mr fred dunns! He refers to you alot for your knowledge on grafting queens and apimaye hive
I’d like to ask Ian if his farm is irrigated or does he rely solely on the rain? ... AND, What’s his secret pollen patty recipie???
You make some very good points. I used a little bleach with my bees feed this spring, but it was more due to my circumstances. My hives are about an hour’s drive from my house so I wanted to be able to put out at least a week worth of feed at a time (started from packages) so they would have plenty to build comb with. In retrospect, I’m pretty sure they took it slower than they did when I trickle fed them through the dearth with unbleached syrup so it probably didn’t have as much benefit as I thought it would.
If you give them a gallon a week doesn’t really matter if it takes them 3 days or 7 days to suck it down. It’s still a gallon a week...
Bleach is really nice, consumption speed mostly depends on temperature and breed
I watch almost every video. Thanks for your great videos! I wold love to know what should do for fermenting sugar shurup in low mass( 10galon). Thanks in advance
Can you add a CO2 blanket to your tank, to slow fermentation? Just a blanket, wouldn't have to completely fill your tank headspace
I was going to ask about this topic in the last video.
I found out the hard way feeding with HBH in the hive promotes robbing so now I just feed sugur syrup in the hive and anything with essential oils I'll open feed instead and yes the smell sure does linger in your containers. Thanks for sharing!
I like to ask Ian what chemical treatments he is using and for what it is for.
Also, If Ian is putting the bees on a special gut diet before the bees go into the winter shed.
I invert my sugar with a bit of lemon juice. Bleach- We had the hives drinking in mass around our neighbor's pool. And I think Ian uses premade thymol syrup?
Sell the leftover to moonshiners.
question for you and/or Ian. Do you ever consider setting up treatment free yards to select for varroa resistance?
Do you feed your strong colonies that are for honey production with this syrup? Does the quality of honey degrade significantly? I have gone the entire year without any and the honey I sell to people has gotten absolutely ecstatic reviews. Someone who bought a jar in the morning texted me saying they need another one delivered that same evening because they already ate the whole thing! Meanwhile the beekeeper who helped me get started feeds his colonies plenty of syrup and when I tried some of his honey it was no competition to what I was producing, not even close! We are housing our apiaries in very different environments so it may be entirely due to that. Thank you Mr. Reynolds & Family for all these great videos!
We feed any colony that needs it. Some do some don't. We won't place honey supers till April. This will all be long gone before then and the honey supers are not on the hives. Literally a handful of miles can make all the difference in the taste of your honey. Some areas honey isn't that good. Sugar syrup tastes like sugar and has no flora notes. We sell barrels of pure honey each year and it all goes in 2-1 lb jars and we don't even need to advertise. If you have a great tasting honey and the prices aren't too high you can sell literal tons.
@@kamonreynolds Yes, absolutely. Its fascinating how you can see all the factors playing out right in front of your eyes. Everything about beekeeping is so awesome (besides that time I almost died from getting 40-50 stings at once) 😅. And I am also lucky to be distributing my product in the New York City metropolitan area which is full of wealthy folks who love all natural things, letting me get away with some rather healthy prices for the ol' wallet as well!
thanks for taking the time to make this video kamon! the way you openly share your experiences and all of this valuable information is inspiring. you were my bee school dude. thanks again for everything🙏🤘👏🙌🐝💯
Thanks !!
If I make a sugar patties with lemon grass and spearmint, along with sunflower oil, how much of the essential oils should I add? I know not to use more than 2 drops of the lemongrass, but how about the spearmint? Thanks
Wondering Ian, when you have most of your value chain, in-house, why don't you go further: packing, extending branding to consumer level and distributing. In this way: giving work wintertime, yielding more working positions and increasing turnover and hopefully increasing profitability?
So, what are you using now a days to keep your syrup from going bad? I've been using hive alive to keep it from going bad. I've been feeding heavy to build numbers not worried about honey and I've mixed a lot of syrup. I put hive alive in but was wondering if you had a better option you're using now.
I asked Bob Binnie and he uses 1-2 cups bleach to every 250 gal.
Hi bossneat to hear you are pretty natural guy, but in regards your sugar syrup fermenting, what would be wrong with smaller batches. Just a thought from new zealand.
Question to Ian. Does he mill his own soy flour and has he tried sunflower oil for his protein patties?
As far as I know yeast is responsible if things starting to ferment. Also higher temperatures and low temperatures can slow or even stop the fermentation processes until the right temperatures return to the level where yeast can thrive again.
Anyone know if this is right?
I took half the video before I noticed the tail board falling off. Better find a welder.
Enjoy the vids keep up the good work
buzz buzz beekeeper Me too! 👍😁
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Why don't you just feed pro sweet to put lbs on for winter an no fermentation ? Cost factor?? I've found that they will transfer from feeder to capped in frames within a short time.
Hey Kamon how's it going from one Tennessean to another. My question is Mr. Ian I'm in between you and Kamon in Hillsboro Missouri and in the last 2 weeks of February or last week of February and 1st week of March the queen is laying due to it being in the 70's and then all of sudden back to the 30's for about 2 weeks and they die keeping the brood warm and a load of honey on all the frames any advice on how to keep them from dying after getting them over the hump thanks
i have some bees that have red bellies it looks like bleed its in the comb ????
Does vinegar help keep it from fermenting?
The recipe that you have online use lemon juice
What does apple cider do for the bee's. I've seen a couple videos of people who use it. What is your thought on it.
to stop mould you can use asorbic acid vit c or both
what do u thank about putting protean into the liqued feed
I think it is unnecessary and kind of a pain to make. Especially in trough feed like mine SHB will lay their eggs in it for sure. I like to keep them separate
Heat it? Will it kill it?
Why doesn't Ian mark queens?
Would really like to know why this guy call himself commercial... Did anybody notice the Vi to the background? Has no bees coming or going you get enlarged to the video.
I thought fermentation was a good thing-as it's when feeding livestock.
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