Hey Rob, I believe on the volume settings for your videos over the last couple weeks it's been really low during demonstrations or teaching part etc, or rather the actual new footage part. But in the pre-recorded bits like where you say "If you like my style of teaching" it's much louder. Might want to have volume or video gain or whatever its called checked because I'll tell ya if you're wearing ear buds you're in for a surprise of volume difference. Anywho, great tips on that saw holder with the hinge and stuff. This will definitely be my next project. Thanks again for the years of teaching, videos and all that you do for others.
I love the guide on the end of the file. I have been sharpening for a number of years now, I wish I had that one when I started. Thanks for the great content of your videos. Keep it up. As a veteran, I thank you for the wonderful work you do for my brother veterans. God Bless.
Cutting with ease is good explanation my two tenon saws are blunt and harder to cut I remember when they cut with ease but very happy to watch your video as I have to save and watch a few times to pick up hints bit by bit before I try myself thanks Rob
Jason at Fireball Tool did a comprehensive test with files showing the amount of damage in dragging the file backward after making a cut. Interesting results. Negligible damage in 2500 strokes. Personally, like you, I like the control of using the back stroke as well as the benefit on a saw blade of removing micro-burrs that occur with one direction cuts.
OMG now I see my first mistake I used to have my file off to an angle instead of what you are doing straight across so it looks like I should be sharpening the points and not the sides of each tooth thanks Rob. I'm going to use the oldest saw for practicing on
If its a rip saw you file perpendicular to the tooth. On a crosscut saw you file at an angle (Video coming soon on a crosscut saw sharpening). You should be sharpening or removing metal from the whole front of one tooth and the whole back of the other tooth that the file is touching....not just the tip of the tooth.
When Rob says it is a 5 minute process it is I witnessed him do a whole saw and it was impressive. Great video and technique. Is there a video about the saw vice? Thank you for sharing. Take care.
Another great video Rob. Thanks for sharing. I have a whole bunch of old carpenters crosscut and rip saws from my Grandfather and would love to get them sharpened up and usable again and not just an ornament in my shop. Would love to see your video of refurbishing an old saw like that. I know it is not something for dovetails and fine joinery, but pretty sure you would make a great instructional video.
Depending on how rough shape they are in they will need tobe jointed, possibly some teeth reshaped, and possibly re-set. We have that on our video to do list but it will be a while
How do you tell if your saw is premium or disposable hardened? I have one old saw that was my father's, and a new one I bought at Home Depot 2 years ago for not very much money.
@RobCosmanWoodworking Hmm, ok. My Irwin saw is probably hardened then. I had been using my dad's old, worn, rip saw, forever, and then I bought the new Erwin crosscut saw for $30 and it cut through wood like a hot knife through butter. I was amazed! Would love to see dad's old saw perform like that.
@@RobCosmanWoodworking I try to like n comment on all yours I see, have not long after finding ya yrs ago! You're legendary in my mind like a bob Vila or Roy underhill! Lol n the again for what you do for us vets!
I do fall back on cheap hardpoint saws when there is risk of hitting into nails, grit or other hard objects. These saws can also be quite easily re-sharpened using diamond files which helps salve my conscience for buying disposable tools.
I didn’t quite catch the difference with the tiny front teeth. These have a different rake right? They’re angled backwards a little. Can you just confirm that you rotate the file backwards a little to account for this? I couldn’t be sure from the video. Thanks!
Well if it's an inexpensive one it's likely harden teeth and that blade is designed to be used and thrown away. If it's a expensive traditional Japanese saw it can be re-sharpened but it takes special saw files and is much more difficult to do. Saw sharpeners apprentice for 7 years in Japan to become master saw sharpeners.
Well taught Rob! As I have a traditional European Bench with a corresponding vice, I have a different clamping system. Something like this: cdn.dictum.com/media/image/25/f3/9a/730490_01_P_WE_8_DICTUM_S_genfeilkluppe_WZ_jpg_430x430.jpg Works great as well.
check out how to make a saw vise: ruclips.net/video/rRRMogzFOrA/видео.html
Hey Rob, I believe on the volume settings for your videos over the last couple weeks it's been really low during demonstrations or teaching part etc, or rather the actual new footage part. But in the pre-recorded bits like where you say "If you like my style of teaching" it's much louder.
Might want to have volume or video gain or whatever its called checked because I'll tell ya if you're wearing ear buds you're in for a surprise of volume difference.
Anywho, great tips on that saw holder with the hinge and stuff. This will definitely be my next project. Thanks again for the years of teaching, videos and all that you do for others.
We have fixed the audio. Just need to publish videos to clean out the ones before the fix
I love the guide on the end of the file. I have been sharpening for a number of years now, I wish I had that one when I started. Thanks for the great content of your videos. Keep it up. As a veteran, I thank you for the wonderful work you do for my brother veterans. God Bless.
Glad you liked it. The little stick helps a lot
You are the best. I love watching these videos to learn how to use and care for tools that have had in the shop for years.
I initially learned to cut dovetails with a dozuki; however I enjoyed this video. Great tutorial on sharpening your saw.
Thanks for commenting
Thanks for teaching me Rob! 👍
You bet
Cutting with ease is good explanation my two tenon saws are blunt and harder to cut I remember when they cut with ease but very happy to watch your video as I have to save and watch a few times to pick up hints bit by bit before I try myself thanks Rob
Its really easy to do. Get a good file and follow the video....its actually hard to screw up
Thanks for the instructions. I have my Dad's very old (65 years?), quality ripsaw that I am looking forward to getting back to sharp!
Dont practice on that saw!
I bet it will sharpen right up
Thanks for this amazing lesson of housing keeping technique!
My pleasure!
Jason at Fireball Tool did a comprehensive test with files showing the amount of damage in dragging the file backward after making a cut. Interesting results. Negligible damage in 2500 strokes. Personally, like you, I like the control of using the back stroke as well as the benefit on a saw blade of removing micro-burrs that occur with one direction cuts.
Thanks for the info!
Amazing, I've just started re-sharping the rip blade for my 24" frame saw.
It's easy peasy
Brilliant as always Rob
OMG now I see my first mistake I used to have my file off to an angle instead of what you are doing straight across so it looks like I should be sharpening the points and not the sides of each tooth thanks Rob. I'm going to use the oldest saw for practicing on
If its a rip saw you file perpendicular to the tooth. On a crosscut saw you file at an angle (Video coming soon on a crosscut saw sharpening). You should be sharpening or removing metal from the whole front of one tooth and the whole back of the other tooth that the file is touching....not just the tip of the tooth.
@@RobCosmanWoodworking I like 8 to 15 degree for C/C rake.
I really like the blade holding jig. I must make a couple of those.
check out the video we made on how to build it
@@RobCosmanWoodworking This one: ruclips.net/video/rRRMogzFOrA/видео.html Looks like just what I wanted. Thank you
When Rob says it is a 5 minute process it is I witnessed him do a whole saw and it was impressive. Great video and technique. Is there a video about the saw vice? Thank you for sharing. Take care.
Yes there is. Just search our channel for “saw vise”
@@RobCosmanWoodworking Thought so. Thank you.
Another great video Rob. Thanks for sharing. I have a whole bunch of old carpenters crosscut and rip saws from my Grandfather and would love to get them sharpened up and usable again and not just an ornament in my shop. Would love to see your video of refurbishing an old saw like that. I know it is not something for dovetails and fine joinery, but pretty sure you would make a great instructional video.
Depending on how rough shape they are in they will need tobe jointed, possibly some teeth reshaped, and possibly re-set. We have that on our video to do list but it will be a while
@@RobCosmanWoodworking Awesome. Thanks. I will keep an eye out. Love your videos and the information you provide.
If you run the sharpie from the handle to the tip, it does less damage to the sharpie and is easier to mark the teeth.
Another method is to get some gun sight black and just spray the tooth line
I’d like to see a tutorial on how to sharpen cross cut saws.
That video is coming
So you apply pressure only on the push, and then you drag it back?
Yes
Is that a double extra fine file?
How do you tell if your saw is premium or disposable hardened? I have one old saw that was my father's, and a new one I bought at Home Depot 2 years ago for not very much money.
Hardened teeth looked discoloured, dark.
@RobCosmanWoodworking Hmm, ok. My Irwin saw is probably hardened then. I had been using my dad's old, worn, rip saw, forever, and then I bought the new Erwin crosscut saw for $30 and it cut through wood like a hot knife through butter. I was amazed! Would love to see dad's old saw perform like that.
Great stuff
Thanks for watching and responding
@@RobCosmanWoodworking I try to like n comment on all yours I see, have not long after finding ya yrs ago! You're legendary in my mind like a bob Vila or Roy underhill! Lol n the again for what you do for us vets!
I have old eyes as well. Where does one get the magnifier that you use?
They are called Optivisor. Just do an internet search. They are everywhere
Why is no hockey tape on the sawhandles?
I do fall back on cheap hardpoint saws when there is risk of hitting into nails, grit or other hard objects. These saws can also be quite easily re-sharpened using diamond files which helps salve my conscience for buying disposable tools.
good tip, thanks
I didn’t quite catch the difference with the tiny front teeth. These have a different rake right? They’re angled backwards a little. Can you just confirm that you rotate the file backwards a little to account for this? I couldn’t be sure from the video. Thanks!
Yep, adjust the file to produce the desired angle.
Great class. Pardon a stupid question: can I resharpen a Japanese saw?
Well if it's an inexpensive one it's likely harden teeth and that blade is designed to be used and thrown away. If it's a expensive traditional Japanese saw it can be re-sharpened but it takes special saw files and is much more difficult to do. Saw sharpeners apprentice for 7 years in Japan to become master saw sharpeners.
@@RobCosmanWoodworking Thanks for the insight.
Nice one, thanks Rob
you bet
Demystified! How do I tell what a saw’s blade is made of? Test with a file - look for result?
All saws are made from spring steel. Around 52 on the Rockwell hardness scale
I had not realised that a tenon saw was a rip saw?
Why yes it is
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"Music" to my one ear! Enjoyed watching. Thanks.
Thanks fir commenting
Well taught Rob!
As I have a traditional European Bench with a corresponding vice, I have a different clamping system. Something like this: cdn.dictum.com/media/image/25/f3/9a/730490_01_P_WE_8_DICTUM_S_genfeilkluppe_WZ_jpg_430x430.jpg
Works great as well.
Yes that works similar to the one I use.