They Are Now Working In The Cold!
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- Опубликовано: 31 янв 2023
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It’s Celsius Not Fahrenheit Use Celsius In America 🇺🇸
Will the results be posted anywhere besides Elon's twit hangout? Thanks.
Plugshare’s charger rating is pretty good, why not just post your results there? It’ll show all the entered charges with comments, instead of having to search twitter and maybe find the charger you’re at.
I second the comment about Plugshare. Isn't this already our crowds crowdsource app to work on this stuff (won't catch me dead on Twitter)
@@korhojoa_ I try to always do a check-in when charging. Hopefully, at least a few people here do too?
You know electric charging companies are tracking Kyles movements .. "activate the charger .. Kyle is on his way there" 🤣😂
They did that on the taycan race from ny to cali with drew and tjiman
LMFAO 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@markfitzpatrick6692 they just told them which chargers should definitely be working and checking on status...they still had charging issues 😐
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Doesn't help. He's called them and told EA he was on his way to X charging station; physical station didn't work, but it showed as good on EA's board.
Thank you for keeping the pressure on the charging companies and keeping them accountable!
Yes. Nothing is worse than showing up to a charger in crazy cold weather and not being able to charge. Reliability is probably the most important thing in a charger.
Thanks for this update video. A few people online were saying you were engaging in a "smear campaign" against EA after your past video. At least you're being faithful by updating us when things go right instead of only when they're broken.
Maybe the technician just wanted to be a technician and not be on the record for this massive problem that the company he works for should address. It is totally an answer I would give, even if I knew what the issue was, just because often you are directly instructed not to comment on current issues.
Instructed not to comment is fine but then instead of lying, why not say "I'm not allowed to comment"? I would hope they do the latter.
The inherent problem with someone who isn't expecting to be a spokesperson is that they ... aren't expecting to be a spokesperson. Their direct manager could have had 1-on-1 training about the issue, a dozen high-priority emails could have been sent with technical details, and the tech might have just ignored them or forgot.
Everyone bemoaning the technician including Kyle have probably never had jobs that involve dealing directly with the customer.
@@eddiepetrick6222 I agree. :D
@@martinroy3931 In customer service I’ve seen customers go ballistic when being told you can’t provide more information, even if there’s really nothing else to say. There’s no winning here! 😂
I still drive a gas car but I am keeping an eye on your content, trying to learn the ins and outs of electric vehicles so that in the future when I eventually get one, I will be up to speed. hopefully, all the bugs will be worked out by then
I’m in the same boat. So far I’ve determined my electric vehicle will be for my local trips but when I need to go on long trip I’ll take the ICE car to avoid the slowness of charging.
@@slscamg I thought that too but the Tesla is just so much better in every way that we never take our Outback for anything anymore. Charging on trips is hardly noticeable... when they open up this magic CCS it will be that way for everyone else.
Thanks for the update. I agree that EA has kind of ghosted the community on what's happening. It feels like the company is severely under-resourced and just not in a position to deal with a crisis. I say it in basically every charging video, but I've had great luck lately with EVgo using Autocharge on my Bolt. While EVgo's old 1st gen hardware has questionable reliability, the new Delta units are generally solid. Just wish EVgo had the distribution of stations across the US that EA does.
They just don't have that sweet punitive Dieselgate money.
Last night a Tesla driver was (unsurprisingly) waiting for me to leave so he could use the Volta (now I guess Shell?) charger.
I politely shared with him the knowledge that there is now a CCS-to-Tesla adapter and he could've used any of the 4 empty EA chargers at the corner of the parking lot. He wouldn't have had to wait and he would get a faster rate of charge.
His reply, "yeah you have to pay for those chargers and this is free."
So once again, the guy who bought the expensive car cries pauper when those of us who have no choice but to use hard-to-find J1772 chargers are constantly blocked by Teslas. FYI, there are Tesla Superchargers just a short distance down the road.
I don't know which annoys me more, that Teslas driven by cheapskates are constantly hogging the J1772 chargers or that car manufacturers don't have CCS as the default connection in every PHEV/BEV. At home J1772 is fine and on the road, you would use the CCS.
I am happy to live in Sweden where we have a lot of Hyperchargers and Kempower or Tesla chargers. Sadly we have a bit of ABB (Always Be Broken) too.
Ionity-nätverket är ju rätt stort. Men finns många laddare av olika fabrikat som har många problem
Vi har inga ABB här vad jag vet där jag bor. Synd då ABB är svenskt.
I'm just impressed you're out there in that temperature with no gloves or hat and not flinching. Props.
I am AMAZED at your continued reviews showing the failures, honest full comments, directed to power companies, and return to the failed stations to show success. YOU and wife team are making the changes and I think you. I'll never get an EV, but you are making the progress through these video. And they will get attornies- it's kind of obvious they got the government funding, put up dead charging stations, and you challenge them. OUTSTANDING. If we could get someone like you to challenge the battery makers for our cars/diesels! Memphis area has been in ice for 3 days, I plugged in my diesel heater block for the 24-26 degree nights. I believe the batteries, 1 yr old, would flat die at 5 degrees, forget lower. When I cranked the voltage bounced from 14 to 11v for 5 minutes. Here's a question before I leave- Memphis has had 3 hour interstate blockages, several a day, for these 3 days due to ice. And 1 day for protestors blocking I55 at the Memphis Bridge for several hours. How do these EV handle stopping in 24 degrees for 3 hours work? Can they actually provide heat and radio during this? Assuming they are not at full charge, as winter takes some 50% power away, I assume the people are cold? Thanks for what you're doing.
Thanks for the update Kyle, even though road tripping a CCS charging EV with todays chargers being in their infancy can be a challenge driving an EV is a much better driving experience over any ice vehicle built today and if you charge at home 90% of the time it’s a no hassle and cheaper experience.
But 40% estimated will not be able to home charge. So any state planning restrictions or mandates needs to ensure these problems are solved.
Additionally, emergency vehicles will need to be available to bring enough of a charge to get a stranded vehicle on the road. Just like you call AAA for gas.
I would like to know Colorado state officials. How are they responding.
Thank you for creating awareness that charging stations have to be as reliable as the gasoline pumps. Reducing charging/range anxiety is important for environmental improvement.
Looks like you widely reporting on the issue caused EA to rush a fix. Nice work exposing these issues!
It sounds like they're constantly conditioning the cables now to keep them a reasonable temp?
Thank you for the update.
Great to see working chargers again! It's good news that the Arctic cold didn't brick these units. Frustrating to see no response from EA about any of this stuff. Has their CEO Giovanni Palazzo come out with a statement or talked to the media to clear things up?
We just completed a trip from DFW to Nashville then to LeClaire, IA, then to Cedar Rapids,these two to photograph Bald Eagles, then back home through Missouri, Kansas, Oklahoma, and back to DFW. All chargers worked just fine with no waiting at any stop. Trip back through Iowa, Missouri, Kansas, Oklahoma and Texas was all at temps in low single digit temps. Charging on the way back were never higher than 50 - 60 kw, after warming up. Sure could have needed to watch you video on conditioning the ID4 before hand, but now I know. ID4 performed flawless, except 1 time when the Navigation and radio went dead. These were cured by turning the car off and walking away and coming back to reset the car, this done at the next charge point.
I went to get a haircut about 3 hours ago, and got talking to my hair stylist about electric cars, I told her about the "too cold to charge" issue, now I'm gonna have to tell her next time it was fixed. 😂😂
We've just experienced -54,4F here in Quebec just a couple days back. So really hope Electrify Canada/America tests in *extreme* cold. You guys should do a Canada road trip at some point ;) !
I used the new chargers between Austin and Dallas today and they worked well at 36F.
I’ve yet to get one of the newer EA chargers to work on my Ioniq5. Haven’t tried in the past few weeks though, so maybe they’ve done something to gets them to actually work now.
Regarding the charger frying an EV, highly unlikely but possible. It would pretty much have to happen through the communications part of the link. No way it would happen through the charging portion (at least on a DCFC, may be possible if AC charging). If anything got weird over the DC charging connection, the car would open the contactors and effectively disconnect the battery from the charger within a split second. The communications lines, however, that kind of depends on what the vehicle manufacturer has installed as far as circuit protection. If nothing, than the charger could potentially send higher that designed voltage through the circuit and damage whatever module controls charger communications on the car. That said, if a charger “fried” car through the communications line, it would also likely fry the charger as well, since the communications circuits in the charger are not going to be designed for higher than specified voltages either.
You could not be more correct, the lack of transparency by Electrify America amplies the problem. Most of the car manufacturers suffer from the same problem (I am looking at you Kia and the battery preconditioning issue for pre-June 2022 USA built EV6s). In this day and age it is mind-boggling that companies do not understand the need for effective communication. If you are working on it but don't have a solution yet just state the extent of the issue, how hard it is to fix and an expected fix or update.
EA is controlled by VW which is failing on EVs. They were forced to build EA and hate that it helps other manufacturers. They will always move slow on fixing EA issues because of that.
We need someone like you in the uk our charging infrastructure is two bob especially in more rural areas if you don’t have charger and driveway at home forget it
Same here in Canada. Only a handful of major highways have fast chargers, and most of them are 50kW at best. Anywhere away from a big city has nothing but a distant 240V Level 2 charger...maybe. The only alternative for faster charging is campgrounds with trailer hookups.
Thanks for the update, Kyle. Hopefully this was just as simple as a software setting. Any news on the vandalism on your local ChargePoint sites? I saw a report that they had to take one Express Plus units down due to cut cables.
Do these chargers not have heaters in them?
It would seem an easy solution to a cold and damp problem.
Whef ! Glad EA fixed the issue. With the unpredictable weather we have been experiencing. Stations not working in freezing temps is an issue.
Yeah EA has been very out of touch here in Southern California too. So many chargers that have been broken for months on end now, or new stations that have been done for 3+ months but not taken online. When I call their support and tell them that two out of three stations are down, they tell me that they know and that the repair order is in. But if I ask how long until it gets repaired and I tell them it's been down for months, they have no answer. I do feel bad for their phone support agents, they're probably getting sick and tired of hearing it. So now whenever I get to a station where half or more of the stations are busted I just leave bad reviews on plugshare/google maps in the hopes it gets EA's attention.
Excellent news!
So I asked EA about the non working stations in the cold snap on a post on FB and here was EA’s direct reply today, take it for what it is worth:
Hi! Thank you for your question. The arctic blast in late December did impact three of our stations, but we were able to identify and implement a firmware update within 48 hours of the occurrence. Our chargers can operate in temperatures as low as -30 degrees Celsius and this was an isolated incident. -MF
Just three???
Thanks for all you do Kyle! As someone who uses I-80, I wish you would publish more on the poor availability of CCS charging in your neighboring state of WY!
so where can we find the media outlet that “tampered” with EA Chargers to make them work?
Same, I wanna see that.
Yes, I want to see what this is about
I've been waiting for this video!
How do you feel about the 2024 c40 and xc40 all electric going RWD?
Kyle, Great video as normal. I am curious if you have heard anything about the Rivian chargers, and how they handled the recent cold. I know they are not as prevalent as other chargers, but curious about if you have heard of any issues with them.
There are Rivian Waypoint 11.5 kW chargers a 5 minute walk from my apt. It gets to as cold as -20 F but so far the chargers are rock solid. They were free but in early Jan. they started charging 25 cents/kWh. Also there are 4 cables, to charge 4 EV's. Many times i have seen an ICE vehicle of some sort parked in one of the "EV only" spots, sometimes crossways taking up two spots.
Are the thermal issues better now after the recent update done by Rivian or it's still slowing down extremely quickly after plugging in? The thermal management issues you mentioned are putting some doubt in my mind if I want to go through with our purchase of the R1S.
I haven't gotten the latest update that mentions the fast charging fix on my R1T yet.
Finally, a recent video from Kyle that doesn’t say if you plan to road trip an EV, go buy a Tesla.
I am very happy to hear that Electrify America has apparently resolved the problem. I do wish they were a little bit more forthcoming with what was done.
Seems to me they showed very little concern for the issue that it caused their customers...
Are they limited in the cold by programming? You would think the charge cables would work better in the cold. I get the batteries need to be warmed up and work better at taking a charge. But you think heat wise for the cable it would work better cold or atleast warmed .. but idk
Re: frying cars, didn't you have some experience with the BTC charge points giving you more Kws than your vehicle was requesting?
What this series of videos informs me (we do not own an EV) is that the state of this form of transportation in 2023 has two aspects. 1. If one owns an EV, charges at home, and drives locally, it’s all very workable. 2. If any level of long distance driving is necessary or desired, EV ownership becomes a hobby, and not always a fun one, depending on the level of predictability and excitement one finds tolerable.
Basically, but to point number two it sounds like the Tesla network kind of “just works”.
unless you have a Tesla
I own and drive an EV and your statement is correct. Long distance EV travel is *not* ready or prime time for the masses. I liken the current EV situation the same as PCs were in 1983-5. It's here and we can all see it coming but it's not fully convenient for the general public. EV charging *needs* to be as simple and as reliable as pumping gasoline. Until that happens, it's a no go. (Tesla seems to have it all figured out...)
As others are saying if you have a tesla its different because their superchargers are all over the place and they plan on letting other EV vehicles use them from what i've heard.
None of this crap for me driving my Tesla all over the place on roadtrips. Easy peasy.
thanks kyle, you are doing a huge service for early EV adopters and all future EV drivers. it is always good to hear good news and updates, but I want them to come from EA! considering that EA has become the defacto "only option" in many areas for staying safe and warm while on extended road trips in the USA with electric vehicles, they have a public duty and responsibility, whether they like it or not, and should be required by law to give accurate/timely reports about charger function, availability, etc. These are public safety issues for people travelling in EVs in the cold weather and should be treated as such. In the event of unexpected hardware/software issues, EA should be responding to public feedback within hours, posting updates to media outlets and email to customers, letting them know the exact nature and extent of the problems. Just like how if your power goes out, local energy utilities will text you with periodic updates about where the crews are, where the problem roughly is, and roughly when they expect your power to come back online. EA and every other charging station operator should be no different. The fact that their charging stations are isolated, not staffed, with no protection from weather, does not help. The entire design of them is flawed. Charging stations in areas with extreme temperatures (and really all areas) should be built appropriately, have some protection from weather, up to and including building them inside a mildly heated or fan-cooled enclosure, and feature everything a gas station has--bathrooms, food/drinks, one employee who knows the chargers and can do basic trouble-shooting/maintenance or know who to call, and also make sure things are reported. Right now, it's all a money-saving thing, and what we have are the cheapest possible solutions to complex problems. Just drop 4 chargers in a walmart parking lot and call it a day. "hope they work". It's not good enough. Why isn't EA working on a prototype indoor charging station in Colorado? Maybe you could find new ways to motivate them? :)
I agree fully. I purchased a Chevrolet Bolt EUV in Nov. and i live in the Colorado mountains where it gets very cold. I feel like a second class citizen because of the chargers being located out in the open, with no shelter, no window washing fluid, no restrooms, nothing.
If an electric is parked outside in the cold (around freezing or below) for overnight or some considerable amount of time, and then needing to fast charge in the 20-70% range, what is the process to best warm up the batteries and how long might it take to do so?
This is good news.
However, between charging networks having mechanical difficulties with weather and/or vulnerability to Denial of Service attacks, my plan is to stick with PHEVs.
In my opinion, having a gasoline engine for when the electrons aren't flowing is the sensible path to follow.
Plus, with a PHEV you still get the max range of a normal car. Yes, I want the ability to go 500+ miles on a single fill-up should I choose to do so on a whim rather than be confined to just my local area.
If a BEV gave me 3,500 miles (coast to coast) range on a single charge, then I would be much happier.
1:37 “Helle’s voice” i’m sorry Kyle you cannot charge today 🔴 “ I know you and Frank were going to disconnect me and I am afraid I cannot allow to happen” Although you took very thorough percussions against me hearing you I could see your lips move” in the Rivian 😎👍🏽🥴
HAL’S voice
You mentioned you could hear the coolant running. I wonder if that is by design to act as an insulator from the cold.
Don't get why they don't build covers over charging units. Shade+keep snow/ice/rain off+ you could mount solar panels on top.
What changes were made to the BTC brand chargers?
I work at the colorado dmv and work with emissions department time to time. But they just put these stations in they really have no real input, and basically have to take the lowest quotes on machines and installs. Dont quote me but in colorado its about cost to run when its a state funded charged station 😅
No surprise that EA is not transparent, the manufacturers also have the same problem. Transparency is the way to trust.
This is a good thing!!
Glad to hear the EA corrected the problem. It is sad that took such a horrible failure to embarrass them to action.
Kyle, a little off topic - haven't heard you comment on the news of EA Chargers potentially bricking vehicles, is that happening on these new chargers are legacy ones?
Kyle, a few weeks ago you teased an issue with Plugshare shenanigans. Have you looked into it more and are you going to do a video detailing what you were teasing?
So, aside from Tesla, who makes the BEST equipment for someone looking to open and operate charging stations?
Can some one share the link to the video Kyle was talking about.
How quickly did it get below 0? Maybe it was the rate of change?
I wonder if the coolant had froze.
If Tesla does open their supercharger network, will it kill EA and other CCS companies?
I’ve had one rs1 on reserve for a while now but these reviews are making me consider Not getting the vehicle. Can you tell me positives for ownership/charging in your eyes Vs even hyundai let alone Tesla and ford
I've been very disappointed with EA lately in California. I try an average of 3 charger units to find one that will work. Either the app shows In Use when not, dead screen but can charge, only credit card works not app, app won't start charge, etc, etc.
Yet, another reason to buy a Tesla. With that said, I'm hoping to see the success of other companies as well. In the end, it's better for all of us. Great video as always.
The car aren’t “fried”. The required safety systems in the cars isolates the high voltage batteries if it detects faulty currents, voltage or isolations. The manufacturer resets the safety system, unfortunately you need to visit the workshop for this. Sometimes the cars has had problems with the safety system when charging at our fast chargers. And sometimes the chargers have had problems with relays, internal cables or power units that caused the safety system in the car to close off the HV battery.
Kyle I want you to review those hoodies you wear. Those are pretty cold conditions to be standing outside for 20+ mins.
This is good to expose what is going on.
Actually not a twitter user. Usually charge at home both the Bolt & Rivian.
Thanks Kyle for the promising (mostly) update! Here's an unrelated question: Can you shed some light on the NO PARKING...$150 FINE signage? I don't recall ever seeing one before!
Based off of the text at the bottom of the sign, it appears to be a state law. C.R.S. is Colorado Revised Statute
It’s to stop gas cars from parking in front of chargers
The no parking sign varies by locality. It usually references a state or city code/statute regarding improper parking.
@@ouch1011 Thanks!
@@chrisness It’s frustrating to get ICE’d and it’s good to see some government agencies taking steps to discourage this. I can’t imagine my EV not getting towed away if I were to park at a gas pump and just walk away for hours. I’m hoping WA state will follow CO’s lead.
Sounds like the employee you met told the truth which is a concern . Basically they don’t care , they want to keep the transition to evs to a slow pace. Denial of reality and people who don’t have evs
EA was VW's "Get Out of Jail Free" card for Dieselgate.
Hopefully the cold fix, didn't start causing the battery zap issues instead?! :)
My rivian could not charge twice. I have given my rivian to service center in MI.
How come the Tesla Superchargers always work?
It’s still the early days of EV ownership. People shouldn’t buy an EV if they’re fully dependent on these networks. It’s gonna take years to fully build out to become dependable.
"these networks" correct. There is one network that is amazing and can be relied on, and is everywhere....then there's the rest...
Please get an interview with EA people. Thanks!
Only kyle would be like "would be interesting if a charger bricked one of my vehicles" LOL.
Isolation errors, electrical faults frying cars.... if only we could find a connection.🤔
It’s a Fluke when they actually do happen to work.
If you're gonna move up and back all the time like that, you should dance with the camera person.
Great reporting, keep it up.
Explanation of fault is an admission of fault, and probably some amount of legal liability.
“We’ll just wait for things to warm up.” = FAILURE!
Maybe the fault isolation test that was failing was a new or updated test in these machines. And maybe the new test wasn’t qualified for cold conditions.
As a member of country with metrics I think it woud be nice of you to tell for example outside temperature also in celsius. I really like your videos and I have many times opended a conversion table to understand what is really going on.
We wouldn't tolerate a power company saying 'we'll just wait for it to warm up for the power to come back', even in Texas. It should not be tolerated here either.
Does make you wonder if they were counting the EV fad going away.
It Tesla opens up all its chargers to all vehicles, EA stations will be like ghost towns with cob webs all over then. A fitting end for VW and their abysmal charging network.
What content creator is being sued by EA?
FWIW: heat does relatively more damage to batteries than cold.
I'm skeptical
they work -15 ? REALLY ? They added hairdryer inside ? HEUREKA !
What is likelihood EA heard about your problem and sent a technician to fix it? Don’t you find any company who “ghosts” the messenger of a negative report very disrespectful?
Message to Alissa: buy Kyle some winter gloves to protect his hands from the frozen charging handle.
coldorado!
Well their problems aside, if you are talking about the guy who “hacked” into their (very poorly protected) terminal and took control of it, if EA wants to press charges, they have every right to do so. No matter how easy it was, and it was disturbingly easy, to do, what he did was a crime. I’ve worked in cyber security for couple decades and know better than to do what he did without permission from the system owner. Now is that the best move for EA to prosecute, no. They should thank him, find out exactly how the exploit works and patch it and maybe start an authorized bug bounty program to help stiffen up their product. I’ll just saying, they are not wrong to prosecute if they should so chose, as the guy was foolish enough to all put video out there about it (just like you blur your speedometer out when having a bit of spirited fun driving). Please continue tho to call EA out on their poor performance issues and hopefully change is coming for the better, or we are all doomed that rely on them for roadtripping or everyday charging.
Kyle needs to do a statement like musk that he isn’t suicidal. EA hitman on the way
New sweatshirt. Who dis?
I can't justify a electric vehicle at the moment sorry but waiting 30 minutes to a hour to charge is just not ideal I'll stick to gas due to ease of use and speed of refueling
Even with Ea problems people need a backup up charger in there plan or don’t travel during extreme cold or anytime and blame one manufacture. Others go down too. I know were else to go if any doesn’t work. I have a ev go 2016 unit that will be out for a undetermined amount of time it is not just ea but youtubers are fixated on it . Also use tap to charge I don’t use my app I use apple wallet with my pass in it no need to look for a number someone needs to show this and not complaints about the app when you don’t need it
Some day electric vehicles will be feasible. Early adopters will wonder how they ever supported a battery technology that requires child slave labor to mine the cobalt one solid state batteries are mainstream. The Ford F-150 electric is already having battery failures. I predict all these new low cost EVs coming on the market will end up producing massive buyer regret.
I see in some places the cost per 100 miles is higher for electric than gas.
CCS vehicles in North America are a joke
Get a Tesla if ya don't like ea lol
How hard would it be for a charging company to add a little booth and an attendant. Mark that charging station as an equipment TEST station, at heavily discounted rates or even for free. Guaranteed the real customers will find the real problems, and the attendant/tech on site will be able to troubleshoot, run diagnostics, and get the freaking system up to production reliability 20x faster than any "in the lab" design testing could do it?
The goal is to get a great reputation firstest and capture the market forever after, right?
So the cost of having an attendant tech on sight, even for just two shifts a day, is chump change.
3rd time ever commented on RUclips ever. My wife grew up and learned to speak up until her teens in Colorado. This sounds like a sell-out I really hope you're not selling out. This is a serious ordeal and I feel like it's just recourse do to lawsuit possibility or service
I'm surprised EA doesn't have a full time employment at a RUclipsrs charging location. Funny how Kyle's is always fixed the next hour he complains they don't work. Got to make sure all those cars you brag about are charged.
Please find media other than Twitter for Rate Your Charge.
9:00 I have to disagree with you here, Kyle. Kilowatts was wrong for doing that, and they were definitely wrong for demonstrating how to do it publicly. If they found a security vulnerability, they needed to report it privately to EA. I have personally reported similar behavior to EA in the past that was being bragged about in private Tesla owner groups. Yes, for a lot of people, this might just be innocent fun, but there are also a lot of bad actors. The behaviors of some Tesla owners (purposely blocking public chargers, shutting public chargers down through the interface, posting false negative/fail reports on PlugShare, etc.) are also why a lot of people in the EV community refuse to buy Tesla vehicles moving forward, so some internal policing of that community could do Tesla some good too.
Either way, there has been a recent uptick in vandalism and what appears to be hacking/sabotage. At least two different make/model CCS EVs have been bricked at different EA chargers in the last month or so. That's never happened before in the 12+ years the public CCS networks have been operating. If EA is aware of intentional hacking/sabotage on their chargers that has resulted in catastrophic damages (and potentially life-threatening situations) and are pursuing legal remedies, they have probably been instructed by their attorneys to limit or cease all communications. The timing of this is also suspect, following so closely on the heels of Tesla's push to get their proprietary standard listed as a public standard (NACS), which would make them eligible for billions of dollars in public funding.
This is an issue that I personally take seriously, and I can't blame EA at all for being extremely upset as well. At least two EV owners have lost their vehicles, multiple chargers no longer work, and a segment of the EV community (i.e., Tesla owners) are reveling in it for some reason. It's not a good look.
It’s Celsius Not Fahrenheit