Why Was Starliner's First Crewed Launch Scrubbed Again?
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- Опубликовано: 5 июл 2024
- Earlier this morning Boeing’s Starliner spacecraft was sat atop an Atlas V and ready to launch. Unfortunately, with around 4 minutes left in the count, the vehicle went into an automatic hold that eventually scrubbed the flight. This was the second attempt with the last one being scrubbed early last month on the 6th.
So far, we’ve received reports that the scrub had to do with a ground computer initially halting the countdown related to issues with it not loading in the correct operational configuration. While that was the reason for the scrub, there were a few other issues leading up to that point as well. Here I will go more in-depth into what happened, the next launch attempt, final mission prep, and more.
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Chapters:
0:00 - Intro
0:34 - What Went Wrong?
3:41 - Future Opportunities 
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I'm excited for the next scrub 😅
Coming soon! Valve or software problem? What could go wrong? Old Space Shuttle Rockets and O rings or updated 60's capsule? At least it isn't going to blow a door and sink on land. ;-)
At 0:27 why are they trying to launch a capsule that was dug up out of the ground after being buried for over 100 years??
scrubliner
Didn't have to wait long for the next sctub. Seems their next launch attempt on June 5th has caused a day delay for SpaceX now
@@Homested_Retirement - Why would ULA in NASA Florida have any impact on SpaceX in Texas? SpaceX is still working on their tiles and is awaiting launch approval plus good weather conditions. Go STARSHIP #4!
SpaceX took us back to space May 30th 2020. That is over 4 years ago. And Boeing didn't want SpaceX to get ANY funding for CC. Because Boeing had SO much experience and there was no chance SpaceX could deliver before Boeing.
SpaceX launched Falcon fourteen (14!) times in May alone.
I love how the NASA astroNOTS testified against SpaceX in congress. Most of them are all dead and the new generation, I'm sure are very happy flying SPACEX and NOT ULA! Let's hope Congress defunds ULA even more!
Well t Boeing is arrogant to say that, Boeing was a great company and now look at the 737 max, they cut corners.
There might be very good reasons, stuff that can happen to everyone, like forgotten some doorbolts, bought cheap lithium battery with a tendency to burn, forgot some tools, installed the engines in a bad place and messed up the software and so on.
Boeing is like half a decade behind Space X …
Straight to the point without the biased many channels have. Great.
Hey, at least the hatch did not spontaneously blow out......
@@vegas1a The only Mercury capsule that ever got the crabs!!
Scrub liner.
You win the comment section
Good one.👍
🤣🤣👍
Ha
Funny AF.....
Your videos are always exactly the information I want in a thoughtful manner. Many thanks
The fricking suites had a glitch , are you ducking kidding me . Get our money back
Waaaaaaayyyyyy too late now!! The ex-Boing CEO has taken the money and run!!!!
Hey Starliner...don't worry about it...
They say.."The 20th attempt is the charm".
I would say 13th attempt is the lucky number and it is the charm.
It was a ULA issue.
But Will the Door work ?
@@michaelthomas7898 And who owns ULA? Boeing and Lockheed Martin.
@@ruger6343 - I'd trust the proven and older Russian Soyuz before Boeing's quality control issues, software issues, and valve issues. Heck, the Space Shuttle was safer!
Before they even started talking about the valves, I said, "I hope they don't have any more problems with their valves; it's ALWAYS the valves."
I mean TBF atlas was never really meant to carry crew so I'd guess they have some pretty strict crew launch policy as a result
@@KiRiTO72987 - LOL. Hard to fly when your valves stick and your Microsoft software crashes. NASA with it's 2 easily prevented Space Shuttle failures is far from a strict crew launch policy. O ring failure and ice on wing damage were both well known from earlier flights. At least SpaceX fixes things from their blow ups. Go StarShip #4.
@@HDnatureTV The first Shuttle launch was a complete success. The O-ring issue was not easily foreseen by anyone. The wing issue was foam not ice (but should have been photographed on-orbit or by spacewalk.) The Space Shuttle had 133 successful missions. Go StarShip #40!
The problem they have is they buy there valves at Home Depot.
@@michaelbruno1666the o-ring issue was known by the knowledgeable people, but was ignored by management. There was a whole inquiry about this: look up the "Rogers Commission Report"
Stayliner
ULA= Unable Launch Again
Useless Lazy Asses
Better comment 😅
Useless Launch Attempt
Useless Launch Alliance
Please don't forget, if it's Boeing it ain''t going factor too.
everyone, please pray for the crew.
Praying worked well for the Space Shuttle Crews?! I rather hire better companies and get the math and rocket science right like SpaceX.
I pray that NASA can see that SpaceX has its own redundancy - multiple reusable capsules, multiple reusable boosters, multiple launch pads. Are we suddenly going to discover the Falcon 9 design doesn't work?
@@d.jensen5153Nailed it.
I haven't watched any Starliner launch attempt with crew on board because I'm not into snuff films. I really wish Blue Origin wasn't so #$%@ing slow so we could have actual redundancy in this industry. Boeing and ULA are dinosaurs.
If the Starliner crews want to be safe they should stay out of the Starliner.
Call in Dream Chaser!
What kind of people do they have working on this thing? The leak improving for reasons unknown is no better than starting for reasons unknown, either way it's performing unpredictably and therefore unreliably. No responsible engineer should sign off on a launch until they can at least clearly explain what's gone wrong. How can you possibly decide whether it's okay to proceed without fixing the problem if you don't know exactly what the problem is?
DEI people maybe?
Spot on
They only hire from within and cronyism. Every generation of employees gets weaker as no one hires anyone smarter than themselves.
And all the years of experience Boeing has, and just look at what SpaceX has done, I think Boeing probably has too many financial pen pushers now instead of engineers.
At least the hatch was easy to get off, the screws probably already loose.
That's because they were hand tight.
Boeing’s new motto: “When one window closes, another door opens”!
Now that is funny!
they forgot the handbrake
Or they forgot to light the fuse.
I'm in shock. I really didn't see this coming. Or traffic for that matter.
...or going either.
Rush to launch is no bueno.
"No significant issues."
Famous last words.
14 years is rushing?
Dude.
@Been.Here.Since.2007 LOL Well, since you put it that way!
@@julioguardado They even promised to smoke Elon in the space race.
The cherry on top.
@@Been.Here.Since.2007 For them it obviously is. Would be a travesty to put those brave souls into something that will likely kill them when it could've simply been postponed.
No matter how long it takes. You can't really laugh at playing it safe when the alternative is so much worse.
@@SuperCatacata The alternative is SpaceX.
So one of the three computers was in the middle of a software update and took longer to complete the "four minutes to launch.exe" program. Better luck next time.
Probably the environmentally friendly computer, which doesn't draw as much power from the wall, so takes a little longer.
The common shit like every Microsoft OS user sadly knows..... please do not shutdown, still clompleting an update.. bla bla bla
There’s no damn way I’d get on that spacecraft!
I think the plan is for someone to get in it...that's not happening either.
I would for $. Big money.
The Boeing Scrubliner sure lives up to it's name!
NASA made a very wise decision in granting two contracts for a crewed capsule. They got one amazing vehicle which made the entire program worthwhile. But also this.
Its not going, because its a Boeing.
Best comment yet. I worked for boeing for 32 years. They went downhill when mickey D bought them.
You're a poet and didn't even know it!
Quick turnaround, thank you. Great vid.
Boeing and NASA have their comments off, is all you need to know about confidence and trust...
They have it off for eveky video. It’s not about Starliner
Given some of the stupid comments I've seen lately from the social media "experts", I don't blame them!
So, more Pressure to Launch. Didn't we learn ANYTHING from the Challenger Catastrophe?
New O rings! But oops the ice and the wing problem not addressed until later - though NASA new about it and ignored it.
If you work for NASA then you didn't...the rest of us moved on.
It's not about pressure to launch. What's with you idiots??? It's about competently completing the task assigned.
Obviously they did from the Challenger because they didn't launch like Challenger did when under pressure to do so.
This comment makes no sense. If anything they may be overly cautious. If the bean counters were in charge they would not want to be wasting money on scrubs. I am sure the engineers one concern is the crews safety. At least we hope so.
They saved the astronauts lives once again!
Those guys are crazy for taking that job
I heard they asked homeless guys and found three of the 284,977 in California willing to do it.
a "small problem" with the spacesuits? Maybe it's a small problem to everyone else, but if you are the one in the suit, I guarantee you it's at least a medium-sized problem! Considering it's a Boeing product, I guess we're lucky the door stayed on.
The crew are very brave
@@kimpeater1 or expendable. Maybe they heard they were whistle-blowers
Don't you love how Boeing stole the BLACK JUMP SUITS from SpaceX with blue NASA hats (doesn't match) to help the Astronauts in?
@@kimpeater1 - I loved their press conference saying how much they trust Boeing? LOL. And how they helped overcoming the hundreds of problems and flaws.
...hopefully it opens outward.
How frequently can ULA launch their single use rockets? I understand that ULA relies on Blue Origin for their rockets that are not manufactured at a fast pace.
I understand NASA's interest in having two companies provide human transport to ISS but at what stage does this become untenable, financially.
Good question. There's a definite number of A5 launches, since the РД-180 engines aren't being imported any more. As it is, ULA can name their price and the only competitor, SpaceX can charge the same and take whatever profits their reusability allows. It would take more competition to lower the price but it's not clear that anyone else can get into the market, since both SpaceX and ULA have had the benefit of previous govt programs. Maybe something could happen to make the demand increase so much that they lower prices to increase volume. Blue Origin is also gonna want to make a few engines for themselves while they build up their fleet.
"Untenable," great word. The answer is never! It's not their dime, it's ours, the American tax paying citizens of this already overtaxed country. Cheers
ULA has a much better track record than SpaceX over the long haul. As for rocket engines it's probably better to let the engine builders make the engines, especially when you have a mix of rockets that you launch.
BTW, The Delta V does not use BE engines.Their main engines are Rocketdyne. So BE engines have nothing to do with this vehicle. It's the newer Vulcan that uses BE engines, ULA has a phenomenal success rate and actually makes profit as a publicly traded company.
Arguably that's better than a private company that relies on very deep pockets to run the operation. The owner of that company likes to throw around amazing numbers but in reality they aren't actually profitable and has many billions invested that may well take decades to achieve a payback on the investment.
A lot of ULA's business is for government projects, so profits are somewhat restricted. Being publicly traded they can't just pull numbers out of places where the sun doesn't shine! They have to report accurate numbers according to SEC financial rules. That other company likes to take made up numbers for current "operating cost", of particular segments, but that leaves out all the investment costs, infra structure cost and even employment cost and R&D.
Single use rockets is the norm amongst all the competitors except one, so ULA with its many launch capabilities is likely to have more business than they can keep up with. ULA is indeed taking a "smart reusability" approach. Make sure you have a system that can reliably deliver what is supposed to and then look at ways to lower costs.
That other guy has a long list of failed companies that didn't deliver real ROI. Just look at his biggest publicly traded company that went for years without making money and is now facing potential collapse within 2 ir 3 years. And he's being investigated by the SEC for a number of improper practices.
I don‘t really understand what Blue Origin has to do with any of this. They didn‘t build the rocket or the engines, this is Starliner ontop of Atlas.
Blue Origin builds the engines for Vulcan and is working on New Glenn.
LOL with BO making the rockets, and ULA ... I'd say they could maybe launch on every 4 or 5 years. If you rely on Boeing for any part of it, you could probably just preemptively scrub all of them.
You are the best. Thanks good sir!
thanks for the update
You mean the resting in place date.
thank you for the straight up details.
This is what happens when you take shop class out of highschools.
And don't grade students because someone might fail and get butt hurt
Privately, the flight was never a go. It was a training exercise.
Right, a wet dress rehearsal (WDR)
@@metriczeppelin You don't need astronaut to sit on the dang rocket for a wet dress
@@ameunier41 I never said you did. I replied to @monk's post above mine that his "training exercise" is called a "WDR." Jump on him if you choose, not me, mate.
Did the MCAS kicked in?
Straight to point no bs Thanks.
Pure information, no bs, what a bliss
Why, because Scrubliner is another quality US built product from Boeing😂
Would you go up in it if made by BOEING =NO DAM WAY
@@jimmunro4649 - If it's Boeing, I'm not going! SPACEX all the way!
Boing, boing, splat.....
Boeing and Douglas was killed by the managers from McDonnell
The downfall of Engineering excellence
Concise and to the point. Thanks!
Good detail. Thank you
SpaceX Launch today was Cool
No one even covers them anymore unless it is unusual.
@@genebohannon8820 ngl they pretty much did it to themselves when they switched the streams to X
NASA approving the launch with a capsule and rocket with issues . Reminds me of the Challenger disaster.
Yeah I have the same heeby jeebies about this - the fact that they think they can just launch with the helium leak and it won’t exacerbate in space is concerning to me.
NASA - Never A Straight Answer
NASA - no taxpayer dollar left unwasted
NASA should make uncrewed cargo supply runs first to verify it’s flight worthy.
absatively
They have.
or hire the Russians again - LOL! They would be better than ULA any day with older tech that works!
@@TheEvilmooseofdoom yea, but unsuccessfully every time
@@jakajakosthe second one worked
Good reporting
I've picked out the hat I will eat if this thing ever launches.
It already has
Hopefully it is made out of $100 bills, at least you will still have your retirement money in 30 years.
Or maybe a Crucial whistle blower associated with the craft is missing
If you want a spacecraft that is good at scrubbing Starliner is the best, it excels beyond expectations.😅
I heard they will use what remains of the program on pots and pans.
@@ASDasdSDsadASD-nc7lf Those poor kitchens 🥺
ULA has more bugs in their space craft than a flee circus. There is no way I would ride in that craft. Give that crew a ride in a SpaceX bird that one will get them there and back in one piece and in style.
They only way that thing is seeing space is towed by a Starship.
do the gov still have the receipts
Great video...👍
If it’s Boeing, I’m not going, ever..
We’re is starliners Launch escape system?
There's a neat answer to that, it's the thrusters on the service module they've had several problems with. 🎉
Escape System - SpaceX.
They will get it done. But wow is right. Good luck Starliner, it would be a good thing to have another working capsule.
The little train that can't and probably shouldn't.
OMG! That's a GOOD one!
Boeing should just unplug that launch computer and plug it back in.
Maybe that’s it 👍
Just wondering if there is a helium leak already, will it leak even faster when in the vacuum of space. The pressure differential would be even bigger.
Thank God for Space X or we would've been depending still on Russia to send our astronauts to space.
It’s an Atlas!
The Atlas has been around over 60 years!
It is a well known booster with a very safe history.
Reviving the old ways seems to be an experience in frustration.
In the old days the used slide rules and draft boards. Brain power.
At this point if I was one of those astronauts, there is no way I'd get back in this deathtrap.
Thanks, I was wondering all this afternoon what "LC switch" meant.
We will have to wait to see how it progresses and the impact it will have on the launch industry.
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Thank you very much for watching.
You can't fail if you never launch
They set the bar so low they feel like they're winning 😂
@@-MeatsOfEvil- DEI - just lowers the bar - no degrees or math needed!
I watched a program about Boeing last week, they went from a great engineering company that built amazing planes, to a financial company that’s interested in its bottom line and shareholders.
The blue in their uniforms is brilliant, like the blue of the New York Bills uniforms. It's just striking.
I found a positive comment in this mucking comment section. *YES!*
What is the track record of Atlas 5? I thought it was pretty much flawless. Is this the first scrub?
If NASA had outsourced Apollo missions, they would never have gotten to the moon this way.
At 0:27 why are they trying to launch a capsule that was dug up out of the ground after being buried for over 100 years?
They aren’t?
This expensive boondoggle should be scrubbed permanently. And Boeing should be forced to give nasa a refund
At 0:27 Why are they trying to launch a capsule that was dug up out of the ground after being buried for over 100 years?
I couldn't agree more. What an embarrassment to the industry this Junkliner is.
@@ASDasdSDsadASD-nc7lf?????? You're making absolutely no sense. Buried for 100 years?
I can hear Elon laughing.
wow..nice
God damn hearing about all the small issues they are running into is really not comforting thinking about the fact humans are riding that thing putting their life in Boeings hands.. That Launch terminal computer was found executed later today..
These two astronauts must be terrified.
Thanks for the update Mr Bucket! Safe scrubs are always better than gambling with astronauts on board. This system has encountered multiple bugs, but that's pretty common with new systems, even if the system is an evolution of a tested system.
NOT SPACEX much anymore! Maybe weather! Go Starship #4 next week!
The crew’s life expectancy just extended.
The ISS urinal pump, surpised it's not triple redundant. Don't they have a manual pump that they can bypass fluid flow for now and press that cider into fresh h2o?
4:25 It runs off of batteries? And they won't hold a charge after Jun 6th? Next time try ReadyEver!
I can almost hear the Astronauts hearts pounding with dread and fright in anticipation of what can happen 😦!
I often say I would fly on any capsule.....but the amount of failures really is becoming terrifying.
Boeing ; " NASA WE HAVE A PROBLEM". Houston ; " Did you close the Door yet?"
ScrubLiner, you are beautiful the way you are, you're a Ten, you're a queen just like Lizzo.
Lizzo weights more though but she also can't get off the ground.
Starliner is the spacecraft of the future, and always will be.
They got another stay of execution in the deathliner
The combination of ULA and Boeing means expensive fun without end.
May be it saved the astronaut's lives
Didnt even need AI to write this one. Autobiography.
I would be terrified flying with this rocket
Well, theyveset a new record... the longest a launch vehicle has spent on a launchpad without ever launching. 🙄
Eventually to become eternity.
I feel for this crew with all the prepping they go through only to start hearing about holds and faults. Then, the possibility of launching even with small problems.😮 Then comes another scrub and more time to think about it. 😢
At least no one had to pee in their suit.
It was probably a Window 11 or security update. After so many scrubs all the systems require regular software updates.
Nelson should pull the plug on this project, do not say good enough
Don't worry Boing. Space X will fix your failures!!!
Impossible, Musk can't fix broken, only improve quality.
Hopefully Boeing won't need to "talk" to any whistleblowers regarding launch delays.
Boeing announced that the astronauts have gone to SpaceX and they are launching the whistleblowers instead. Hope nothing happens!
They forgot to install the door bolts
Watching "Space Flight Now," the commander told the controllers he wasn't getting O2 flow in his suit when he closed his visor. For those of us that can read lips, he said exactly that when his visor was open. The audio and video aren't synced!!
What if Starliner and IFT4 both launch on the same day at the same time? What happens then?
The launch windows are different so that wouldn’t happen
A bunch of small issues/failures can lead to a big one. I really hope ULA, Boeing, and NASA are all keeping that in mind as they move forward with this. It makes me nervous, but I'm really hoping everything goes well and the astronauts stay safe.
They do have some experience with this sort of stuff.
@@TheEvilmooseofdoom - dead astronauts?
What is a "pyro"?
Brandonliner
I really hope ULA and Boeing don't skimp on checking the vehicle over because of the deadline coming up.
The RUclips channel I was watching ran the countdown all the way to launch! Really on the ball over there huh? lol!
They need to scrub Starliner completely and then do a retrospective on how not to build a human rated space vehicle. Too much money has been sunk into this project and the maintenance and upkeep on top of the cost for each launch just does not compete with SpaceX at all.
Must have been due to a Windows Update?