this is the first time im seeing this sport .. i didn't even know there was such thing . i really want to try this sport it looks so fun , only if my country was into this stuff :c really amazing sport wow . but ill definitely try it when i grow up :D
Chauhan Kritarth Search for climbing gyms in your area, you may find some. :) Many have a section with very tall walls where you climb roped in, and shorter walls for bouldering like they're doing here. All levels of difficulty. It's best to start when you are young! (But waiting to be an adult is also not too late, for sure.)
If they are going to have special guest commentator they can at least get one that will do the job properly. Just listening to her reminds me more of a spectator. She just wants to root for the home team. She gets so excited when a USA member gets ready to climb and then she goes flat with everyone else. I love watching and you can see there progression they are having and it keeps getting better with every year but they really need to get better commentators .
I have no clue why so many people were so toxic on the chat for this particular event even though it certainly was one of my all time favorites. I think the boulders were awesome, the crowd was very nice and the competition was fierce! Too bad for Juliana not qualifying and Alex's injury, what a bummer.
It was honestly probably someone saying like "holy shit that was awesome" or something. Cause the guy kept saying not o swear, so chances are most of them were that.
Ouch. They didn't touch much on Anna's injury but I hope she's okay. It would be horrible for both her and Alex to be out like that so early in the season but it's also great to see all the young talent like Megan climb too! That girl's gonna go far.
So we want bouldering to go to the Olympics and yet, years after years, events after events IFSC seems to be unable to broadcast it in a decent way: terrible commentator, lots of technical issues (battery low, replace battery... WTF?!), the scores are never correct, the clock is just random, that's a Go Pro event and we might have had 15'' of Go Pro views, ...
+LMmc Jomns well i came here dfrom an article on the problem setters who desugned the tricks in the course, the wealth of interesting aspects to this sport and its sheer watchability, weve all climbed stuff havent we??? i used to boulder before motrocycles took over when i moved somewhere flat/.... still did but then they got rid of the wall, which was abit crap in any case, havent done it since.... but it was very interesting reading the arguments between the designers of this particular wall,,,if they are in the video they are the ones looking smug when people fall off. Its a terrible shame that all the effort they seemed to put in designing these climbs to be camera friendly and fiendiahly trickey for the climbers? arent filmed quite so professionally , and be fair on the presenter , he appears to be having to direct at the same time.
+deadprivacy the worst thing is the camera men do not appear to be climbers,,,,,i cant see the next hold the cameramen are focused on the climber only ,,,it cuts off your sense of being in the moment,,,you cant see what the climber is looking at.. thers no perception of make it not makeit....cos you cant see
Why can they never get their act together with graphics/leaderboards/the timer/the internet? Also, why don't they get two people who know about climbing doing the commentary?? The guy just adds a lot of confusion to the mix. He also points out the beautiful scenery of Vail at the worst points and ends up sounding like he's perving over the female competitors. Its a fantastic competition with really interesting problems and amazing sportsmanship throughout, but its so frustrating to see that the broadcasting of these great competitions is still not as good as it could and perhaps should be.
Not sure why this commentator is constantly getting things wrong, but he's consistently incorrect with attempts, 'M', 'F', and names. It's just unprofessional. Still, love to watch though.
Roman Reinhardt Because there is little funding and not so they can't afford to hire good commentators. And climbing is such a young sport that there aren't any proper climbing commentators.
These commentators are unbearably bad at their jobs. The fact that they were incorrect not once but twice about climbers flashing M1 and F1 is embarrassing. There are two announcers and a maximum of two climbers at a time, with each climb lasting twenty to sixty seconds. How could they possibly not realize they flashed the route? neither of them were paying attention to the only two things happening in the entire event for over a full minute? What is the purpose of commentators if they don't provide any sort of useful commentary on the current climb or the climbers? There were a lot of interesting approaches taken on the crack in M1, and as far as I've seen (I'm only at 57:20 thus far), pushing up from the bottom at the crack and putting pressure on the right foot hold has proved a very solid technique for transitioning to that right-hand grab. It would have been great to hear them talk about these different techniques instead of very generic, broad descriptions about static and dynamic movements. Of course taking your time is a valuable. Hearing that comment ten times isn't enriching the finals experience. They also don't seem to know much about the prior experience of the competitors, or at least not enough of an idea to matter. There were far too many comments that had "Maybe" in them for a world-cup event. The male announcer made a comment about keeping a notebook of information on each person. I've heard him in two events now (and he forgot just as much stuff and got just as many things wrong in that broadcast as well), and, given the quality of the commentating, I'd say that would be a great good idea. Really, just pay attention to what is currently happening, make route comparisons during each climb and point out possible variations or inefficient solutions (this is what I really want), and pepper it with an interesting note or two about each climber's past that you are certain is accurate (the comment about owning a gym was good, do more of that). It really isn't that difficult to pay attention and talk about what you see, especially when you have the opportunity to commentate on multiple climbing events in a row as the male has. You should have enough experience at that point and have done some research that will allow you to provide relevant commentary on what is currently on the screen. Hopefully things will get better, but I doubt it. As someone mentioned below, everything just needs to be more professional. There are discrepancies in timing (bringing climbers on-stage while they aren't through introducing them on-screen, inability to show the correct time on the clock), stat issues, et cetera. This could be really awesome and I think you guys are getting there, but you need to kick it up a notch. At least the bouldering is exceptionally fun to watch. EDIT: 1:51:37 Really? You aren't going to do your job because you are scared that you'll jinx them? You are finally talking about what is happening on the route, potential problems in the climber's movements, and you decide against it for fear of jinxing them? Maybe I'm being unnecessarily harsh at this point, but the commentary has just been so poor that I'm becoming hypercritical now at each misstep.
0:56:45 "I think from this point he will go to the top. I haven't seen anyone fall after... [Other guy: "no"] ...this point - I'm going to stop talking." Her pronunciation is the best :D (Jan Hojer fell before after that point)
Henryonsteroids They are slender and strong where it matters. When I started climbing I was a 245lb 6'7 gym rat. I now average between 205 and 210. I have a lot less muscle mass in my upper arms but somehow I feel much stronger. The grip strength and core strength you get from climbing is better than anything you can get from a traditional workout routine. I'm not even a great climber, but I'll never waste money on a gym that doesn't have a climbing wall ever again.
As a native Coloradan I can honestly say that I am so glad that Vail is it's own little ecosystem that is not truly "Colorado" represented here. Rather it is mainly made up of transplants not indicative of a real Colorado spirit. To put it another way, this crowd sucks. If you want to see a real crowd, watch Innsbruck. That is much closer to what real Coloradans are like.
I gave this a thumbs down, not because of the awesome competitors, but the quality of video. This is a sponsored event, yet it looks like it was shot by amateurs. From cutting off climbers at the worst possible moments to multiple butt shots, and graphics not matching up to what's going on to dirty lenses, I am amazed if anyone got paid for filming this. It's sad when the unmanned GoPro is doing the best job out of any camera guy. The very first thing my boyfriend and I noticed was the terrible commentators, extremely unprofessional, and half the time not even talking about what was going on with the present climbers on the wall. We ended up muting them, throwing some music over the top, and had better commentary going on between the two of us, haha. It also seemed as though they chose some random worker to put the graphics together, as the photo for each competitor was terribly photoshopped. Poor Adam looked like he had a clown wig on, and you could see pieces of the original background present in many photos. It was really frustrating to see blue screen at critical moments of athletes on their climbs, and being unable watch this competition without getting distracted by the extreme unprofessionalism that was this "camera crew." I just hope to everything in the world that you guys hire a qualified crew together for next year, otherwise we probably won't waste our time sitting through 3 hours of glitchy, terribly filmed, and exceptionally annoying commentary. If you need help finding a qualified crew, we work for multiple A/V companies that would be more than willing to do a much better job for you guys for next year. Just respond to this comment and I'll get back to you with a list of contacts.
Acceptera I keep wondering that too, of all the sports out there I feel like climbing should be the one that men and women are on an equal playing field
Acceptera they simply take in to account there height and the fact that women are slightly weaker at some aspects of climbing that being said some of the female climbers are extremely powerful but you'd be surprised how many outdoor routes are naturaly easier for men and vice versa. route setting is both a science and an art, it's not an easy thing to do that's for sure
Acceptera different body types. Generally women are more flexible, men are more powerful, especially in upper body. The routes are set separately to more appropriately challenge the men/women
The commentary about banning people for swearing is just unnecessary. We don't care about your internet moderation skills. Also, complaining about curse words is cringe af.
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Climbing starts at 32:14
2:20:34 Margo Hayes starting her second to last try
2:39:40 Quote of the day: "I think I see Alex Puccio... oh no it's a tripod" (!?)
Um wut
The True Fizz I beg to differ. Quote of the day is "as Margo takes a NAP on Female 4" :D I lol'd
1:54:48 Best moment: after not finishing M3 ondra just throws himslef in the pad going like fuck me.
What a great final, too bad about the technical difficulties. Nice commenting and friendly atmosphere :D
Jan Hojer on M4 was just sick, perfect showcase for his absurd strength.
this is the first time im seeing this sport .. i didn't even know there was such thing . i really want to try this sport it looks so fun , only if my country was into this stuff :c really amazing sport wow . but ill definitely try it when i grow up :D
Chauhan Kritarth Search for climbing gyms in your area, you may find some. :) Many have a section with very tall walls where you climb roped in, and shorter walls for bouldering like they're doing here. All levels of difficulty. It's best to start when you are young! (But waiting to be an adult is also not too late, for sure.)
GuacamoleKun thanks for positivity man :D
Same here I never knew there was an actual world cup for climbing I'm also looking forward to trying out for it :D
If they are going to have special guest commentator they can at least get one that will do the job properly. Just listening to her reminds me more of a spectator. She just wants to root for the home team. She gets so excited when a USA member gets ready to climb and then she goes flat with everyone else. I love watching and you can see there progression they are having and it keeps getting better with every year but they really need to get better commentators .
Dog Dog I think the girl commentator was melissa le neve, a French
Song Xu Alex Johnson, American.
I have no clue why so many people were so toxic on the chat for this particular event even though it certainly was one of my all time favorites. I think the boulders were awesome, the crowd was very nice and the competition was fierce! Too bad for Juliana not qualifying and Alex's injury, what a bummer.
Master of the universe What toxicity?
Peter Korotaev In the chat during the live event
Master of the universe And later Anna too, all the big names... Alex Johnson was great.
It was honestly probably someone saying like "holy shit that was awesome" or something. Cause the guy kept saying not o swear, so chances are most of them were that.
Because the commentator doesn't know what he's doing and is sitting there reading chat like he's xqc
Ouch. They didn't touch much on Anna's injury but I hope she's okay. It would be horrible for both her and Alex to be out like that so early in the season but it's also great to see all the young talent like Megan climb too! That girl's gonna go far.
I hope this (english) commentator never comes back. Holds back the sport honestly.
so much respect... they make it look so easy.
So we want bouldering to go to the Olympics and yet, years after years, events after events IFSC seems to be unable to broadcast it in a decent way: terrible commentator, lots of technical issues (battery low, replace battery... WTF?!), the scores are never correct, the clock is just random, that's a Go Pro event and we might have had 15'' of Go Pro views, ...
+LMmc Jomns well i came here dfrom an article on the problem setters who desugned the tricks in the course, the wealth of interesting aspects to this sport and its sheer watchability, weve all climbed stuff havent we??? i used to boulder before motrocycles took over when i moved somewhere flat/....
still did but then they got rid of the wall, which was abit crap in any case, havent done it since.... but it was very interesting reading the arguments between the designers of this particular wall,,,if they are in the video they are the ones looking smug when people fall off.
Its a terrible shame that all the effort they seemed to put in designing these climbs to be camera friendly and fiendiahly trickey for the climbers? arent filmed quite so professionally , and be fair on the presenter , he appears to be having to direct at the same time.
+deadprivacy the worst thing is the camera men do not appear to be climbers,,,,,i cant see the next hold the cameramen are focused on the climber only ,,,it cuts off your sense of being in the moment,,,you cant see what the climber is looking at.. thers no perception of make it not makeit....cos you cant see
+deadprivacy i see a climber looking at a wall...i cant see the wall, theres no relationship , no intrigue ....you could film this so very well...
first time watching boulder cup and I really like it. The production value has some room to grow though ;)
Great climbing. Go Nathaniel and Megan!
thank god the commentary changes to charlie boscoe in the following years!
2:24:34: "like i gave a f***"
My hands were getting sweaty just watching this...
+Greg Sowa Why would your hands get sweaty?
+Greg Sowa You obviously need to chalk up then. :p
Why can they never get their act together with graphics/leaderboards/the timer/the internet? Also, why don't they get two people who know about climbing doing the commentary?? The guy just adds a lot of confusion to the mix. He also points out the beautiful scenery of Vail at the worst points and ends up sounding like he's perving over the female competitors. Its a fantastic competition with really interesting problems and amazing sportsmanship throughout, but its so frustrating to see that the broadcasting of these great competitions is still not as good as it could and perhaps should be.
Adam Ondra's face plant tantrum is amazing
Jan Hojer is such a beast
Hojer just played around with m4. He just decided to campus the whole thing instead!
i'm really sad of all those cuts... i missed some reallly good move...
This is what inspires me to climb lol ❤️
W2 looks ridiculously fun
Aw ickle commentator, with his little ban hammer! This sport needs a Joe Rogan.
Props to the female commentator.
03:07:39 Megan what?
Also the filming my god who hired these guys !
I have no idea about climbing. I have never watched it before. But this is fckin exciting!
Not sure why this commentator is constantly getting things wrong, but he's consistently incorrect with attempts, 'M', 'F', and names. It's just unprofessional. Still, love to watch though.
the W4 boulder looked fun with the rest right at the start :D
dude i hate the male commentator, he sounds as if he knows nothing of climbing
GUStavoSuperCool Exactly and not only that. He also can´t name the climbers right. All in all i don´t know why this guy got the job.
Roman Reinhardt Because there is little funding and not so they can't afford to hire good commentators. And climbing is such a young sport that there aren't any proper climbing commentators.
GUStavoSuperCool yup
GUStavoSuperCool Yeah he's rubbish! Constantly getting names wrong, stating 'facts' that any climber knows are incorrect and just talking nonsense..
GUStavoSuperCool what we really need is YOU and the whole world knows it.
These commentators are unbearably bad at their jobs. The fact that they were incorrect not once but twice about climbers flashing M1 and F1 is embarrassing. There are two announcers and a maximum of two climbers at a time, with each climb lasting twenty to sixty seconds. How could they possibly not realize they flashed the route? neither of them were paying attention to the only two things happening in the entire event for over a full minute?
What is the purpose of commentators if they don't provide any sort of useful commentary on the current climb or the climbers? There were a lot of interesting approaches taken on the crack in M1, and as far as I've seen (I'm only at 57:20 thus far), pushing up from the bottom at the crack and putting pressure on the right foot hold has proved a very solid technique for transitioning to that right-hand grab. It would have been great to hear them talk about these different techniques instead of very generic, broad descriptions about static and dynamic movements. Of course taking your time is a valuable. Hearing that comment ten times isn't enriching the finals experience.
They also don't seem to know much about the prior experience of the competitors, or at least not enough of an idea to matter. There were far too many comments that had "Maybe" in them for a world-cup event. The male announcer made a comment about keeping a notebook of information on each person. I've heard him in two events now (and he forgot just as much stuff and got just as many things wrong in that broadcast as well), and, given the quality of the commentating, I'd say that would be a great good idea.
Really, just pay attention to what is currently happening, make route comparisons during each climb and point out possible variations or inefficient solutions (this is what I really want), and pepper it with an interesting note or two about each climber's past that you are certain is accurate (the comment about owning a gym was good, do more of that). It really isn't that difficult to pay attention and talk about what you see, especially when you have the opportunity to commentate on multiple climbing events in a row as the male has. You should have enough experience at that point and have done some research that will allow you to provide relevant commentary on what is currently on the screen.
Hopefully things will get better, but I doubt it. As someone mentioned below, everything just needs to be more professional. There are discrepancies in timing (bringing climbers on-stage while they aren't through introducing them on-screen, inability to show the correct time on the clock), stat issues, et cetera. This could be really awesome and I think you guys are getting there, but you need to kick it up a notch.
At least the bouldering is exceptionally fun to watch.
EDIT: 1:51:37 Really? You aren't going to do your job because you are scared that you'll jinx them? You are finally talking about what is happening on the route, potential problems in the climber's movements, and you decide against it for fear of jinxing them? Maybe I'm being unnecessarily harsh at this point, but the commentary has just been so poor that I'm becoming hypercritical now at each misstep.
too true.
The way the female commentator was speaking about Puccio in the beginning of the show was inappropriate as well.
This assessment should be longer
1:53:13 , can you jump from the black rock to the top rock? seems easier than the other method if it's legal.
Boulder 1: 32:12
Boulder 2: 1:01:30
Best recommendations RUclips has shown! Great sport. Spiderman would be world champ if he's real lol
yea man
Damn Daniel!
This English commentator really needs to shut up. Next time get someone who actually knows climbing.
+Trofuse they always are shit idk how IFSC picks them..
climbing starts at 32' or so
Pretty sure Margo was 17 at the time? They keep saying 16.
2:42:37 to boys fighting over a bag at bottom left of screen.
Adam Ondra
I like the female commentator
2:21:24 Best thing ever
megan mascarenas on F2: 1:05:55
0:56:45 "I think from this point he will go to the top. I haven't seen anyone fall after... [Other guy: "no"] ...this point - I'm going to stop talking." Her pronunciation is the best :D (Jan Hojer fell before after that point)
2:04:00 is why climbers still need to work on bench/dips.
Stop talking shit.
@@thomasa.anderson9966 Stop being a beta.
who let the male commentator come to a climbing comp. what a fool.
This needs to be edited down to :26 to :30 and that is being generous.
Are rock climbers and boulders ripped or just muscular or neither ?
Henryonsteroids They are slender and strong where it matters. When I started climbing I was a 245lb 6'7 gym rat. I now average between 205 and 210. I have a lot less muscle mass in my upper arms but somehow I feel much stronger. The grip strength and core strength you get from climbing is better than anything you can get from a traditional workout routine. I'm not even a great climber, but I'll never waste money on a gym that doesn't have a climbing wall ever again.
***** so do you from climbing have defined back,core,pectoral muscles or any other muscles defined? Or are you just skinny but have small definition.
As a native Coloradan I can honestly say that I am so glad that Vail is it's own little ecosystem that is not truly "Colorado" represented here. Rather it is mainly
made up of transplants not indicative of a real Colorado spirit. To put it another way, this crowd sucks. If you want to see a real crowd, watch Innsbruck. That is much closer to what real Coloradans are like.
I heard Anna Stohr is retire from comp. Is this true?
+Yama Bushido she had a finger injury so she paused for the last season as far as i know ;)
I hope that just it... a pause.
W2 couldve gone REALLY bad if someone's foot popped while reaching for the finish 😬
Very cool competition; however, I would rather watch it without the commentary.
Men's M4 looked way easier than woman's M4.
I gave this a thumbs down, not because of the awesome competitors, but the quality of video. This is a sponsored event, yet it looks like it was shot by amateurs. From cutting off climbers at the worst possible moments to multiple butt shots, and graphics not matching up to what's going on to dirty lenses, I am amazed if anyone got paid for filming this. It's sad when the unmanned GoPro is doing the best job out of any camera guy.
The very first thing my boyfriend and I noticed was the terrible commentators, extremely unprofessional, and half the time not even talking about what was going on with the present climbers on the wall. We ended up muting them, throwing some music over the top, and had better commentary going on between the two of us, haha.
It also seemed as though they chose some random worker to put the graphics together, as the photo for each competitor was terribly photoshopped. Poor Adam looked like he had a clown wig on, and you could see pieces of the original background present in many photos. It was really frustrating to see blue screen at critical moments of athletes on their climbs, and being unable watch this competition without getting distracted by the extreme unprofessionalism that was this "camera crew." I just hope to everything in the world that you guys hire a qualified crew together for next year, otherwise we probably won't waste our time sitting through 3 hours of glitchy, terribly filmed, and exceptionally annoying commentary.
If you need help finding a qualified crew, we work for multiple A/V companies that would be more than willing to do a much better job for you guys for next year. Just respond to this comment and I'll get back to you with a list of contacts.
Can some1 tell me why males and females are getting different problems?
Acceptera
I keep wondering that too, of all the sports out there I feel like climbing should be the one that men and women are on an equal playing field
Ya agreed, would would like to see that.
Acceptera they simply take in to account there height and the fact that women are slightly weaker at some aspects of climbing that being said some of the female climbers are extremely powerful but you'd be surprised how many outdoor routes are naturaly easier for men and vice versa. route setting is both a science and an art, it's not an easy thing to do that's for sure
Acceptera different body types. Generally women are more flexible, men are more powerful, especially in upper body. The routes are set separately to more appropriately challenge the men/women
Thx :)
Is Ondra wearing two different types of shoes at each foot?? :D 1:51:02
Who is the guest commentator?
Peter Herenkovics melissa le neve?
Peter Herenkovics Alex Johnson 5:15
Daniel Linstrot thanks
Ondra is lucky, he is tall and skinny, some of the takings aren't reachable if you are under 185 cm
E Lle lol of course it had nothing to do with his beta that earned him problem 2... SMH!!
E Lle But Ondra isn't 185 cm tall..
***** yeah just googled it... my bad :s
We need the live results at 53:17 because the commentators are terrible and don't know what they are doing
watched 2:25:00 about 100 times
Just like me. He is amazing!
Worst commenting I've ever heard..
Great competition though!
"Waaaahh all the people are swearing in the chat... :'(" Dude no one cares. Say it in the chat.
these super entertaining comps become unbearable to watch with this freaking commentating
The commentary about banning people for swearing is just unnecessary. We don't care about your internet moderation skills. Also, complaining about curse words is cringe af.
can of worms starts at 30:00 minutes
production team ALWAYS sucks at climbing comps...
I just turned my sound off because them commentators are crap ifsc need new people to commentate
Commentator is terrible
first
The female commentator need to stop being so irritating
GMMonster111 GT I hate the male much more
GMMonster111 GT She's a great climber and very cute
+Song Xu Doesn't make her a good commentator.
need some better commentators...
awful camera work, even missed some moves...what a f...!
Wow the world cups used to be so much worse lol
The women commentator was so annoying it was ridiculous how she talked !
Thank god for Charlie Boscoe, the commentary on this is so awful. Probably best not to be disparaging about the athletes pal...
Lmao, commentator got one guyed by some rando, so unbelievably unprofessional LMAO
This the male commentator, is so bad.
Climbing starts at 32:24
+Northern Canuck You the real MVP