As Australia thrash Pakistan inside four days, we review the abject batting failure, the context of Lyon's 500 wickets, and an impassioned discussion on how cricket fails its poorer teams.
Please keep this podcast alive. You two are a breath of fresh air compared to the toxic Pakistani media culture when it comes to reporting and commenting on cricket. God bless you guys!
From 2010 to 2023 (post IPL, post SL team attack, i.e isolation era), this is what the data for test matches looks like: | Country | Matches | W/L | IND | 139 | 1.80 | AUS | 143 | 1.64 | RSA | 114 | 1.58 | ENG | 173 | 1.29 | NZ | 110 | 1.15 | PAK | 110 | 0.93 | SL | 121 | 0.76 | WI | 111 | 0.52 | BD | 79 | 0.31 1. The difference between IND and PAK is ~30 matches in 14 years; ~2 matches per year. Not that huge 2. If more matches meant a team being better at test cricket, then ENG would be at the top and SA would not be this good 3. Rest of the teams play IND in India while PAK doesn’t; this means PAK’s W/L ratio could have been much worse (no bias, just based on the W/L numbers) 4. If the issue is that PAK doesn’t play AUS, ENG that much then this W/L ratio is even more deplorable It's true that Pakistan has played fewer tests than the Big 3. But it's undeniable that they have been piss-poor in whatever they have got to play. As for why they’ve been this bad, that’s all on PAK: the board and the personnel, the domestic structure, and even players' priorities. NZ and SA aren’t flush with resources cricket-wise (both human and monetary) when compared with PAK, how do they still manage to do much better than PAK? I guess instead of lamenting the world's perceived injustices imposed on Pakistan you need to reflect much more on the part played by self-inflicted wounds
Brilliant stuff. Pakistanis sadly wouldn’t understand or accept this. There are very few experts out there in Pakistan who actually accept these things but rather keep on cribbing for all the reasons. In the end, this is a country with 0 achievement in any other sport barring cricket and even cricket for them is left to just t20 cricket and slowly but surely odi, test level for them has fallen to a great extent. The guy on the right would never accept a single good thing about India, very evident from his views in other discussions.
According to your stats above, IND has played ~25% more, AUS 30% more and ENG ~60% more tests. Why would you say this isn't meaningful? Secondly, the time period starting in 2010 is a bit arbitrary. I believe PAK really started getting left behind after 2015 when the Big 3 came together. If you look at the same stats post Jan 1, 2015, you will note that the Big 3 have played almost 100% more test matches vs PAK. Hence the point the podcasters are making that no PAK player from this era will play 100 matches and they even gave examples of the likes of Misbah, Azhar and Asad who got no where close to 100. Having said that, there is no doubt that there are many self inflicted wounds and yes those are the bigger problem vs. the damage the big 3 has done.
The issue is that when teams don't play regularly they don't have a chance to compete as well. There is no surprise that the more you play in a set of conditions the better you perform. Secondly India in UAE would have struggled given how it couldn't handle aussie spinner's at home. But it never had to play there. But let's just remove Pakistan from it. The issue still remains that cricket has no proper league format and a haphazard schedule.
also, "If the issue is that PAK doesn’t play AUS, ENG that much then this W/L ratio is even more deplorable" In the past 10 years, Pakistan's record in England is 3-4-2, while India's is 4-9-2. The assumption above is clearly mistaken, so the issue is not about lamenting but pointing out actual disparities.
@@BattaFast I am sure the W/L numbers I quoted earlier include these numbers for both IND and PAK. Also, if PAK has a good record against ENG despite ENG playing a lot more test cricket than PAK, doesn't that weaken your argument of PAK shitting the bed only due to PAK playing much less? The point is, when it comes to test cricket, for Pakistan, it's still more of a 'me issue' than anything else
As an Indian who grew up watching cricket in the late 90s, My heart sank listening to Ahmer and Osman. BCCI and ICC are the worlds most shortsighted organisations that are going to ruin international cricket long term. Already Cricket and especially tests have barely any interest in the world. If it becomes just three countries, it will die. A country like Pakistan that has genuine great test cricketing tradition, deep pools of talent, lots of people and genuine interest (unlike say West Indies that’s missing the last two), should be encouraged as much as possible with as many bilateral series not just because it’s right to do but also because it’s the only way international cricket survives long term. What a bunch of selfish, short sighted morons. Love the podcast btw and hope the right people listen to you Ahmer and Osman you need to make a bigger deal of this as one of the biggest cricketing writers in the world!
As per Chat GPT: Q: Who invented the Doosra? The doosra is often associated with Saqlain Mushtaq, a former Pakistani cricketer who is credited with popularizing and mastering the delivery. Saqlain Mushtaq is considered one of the pioneers of the doosra, and he introduced this variation during the late 1990s. Saqlain Mushtaq played a crucial role in Pakistan's success in international cricket, and his proficiency in bowling the doosra added a new dimension to the art of off-spin bowling. The doosra became a notable weapon in his bowling arsenal, and other spin bowlers, both in Pakistan and around the world, subsequently adopted and experimented with this delivery. While Saqlain Mushtaq is often associated with the doosra, it's important to note that cricket, like many sports, evolves over time, and innovations in techniques and strategies are often built upon by various players. The doosra has since been bowled by several spin bowlers from different cricketing nations, each bringing their own variations and adaptations to the delivery.
You guys did an amazing job summarizing the inequalities of international test matches. And in between you presented the anecdote as well. Have a competitive first class test competition which people can be drawn towards. Even with the current production of the QaT the views on PCB channel are pretty healthy. However one thing is interesting how many people are going on about wasim khan and Rambo era. They didn’t get a lot of love when they were present. However over simplified or not the diagnosis of quality over quantity by imran khan was atleast a step in the right direction. It should have been continued. But the current PCB is hell bent of reversing every thing from that time. Captains , structures , coaches and even keepers with Rizwan being forced to sit out.
Problem that cricketers had with 6 teams structure was that majority of the existing cricketers don't get any platform to play. And hence they become unemployed. 8 teams wouldn't fix this either.. they need to have grading but yes bringing departments is not a solution. It has zero association for people to watch.
Amazing how this chat veered from Pakistan's batting performance in the Test to breaking down Lynn's 501 Test wickets, to the domestic cricket in Pakistan before questioning the number of Tests Pakistan and England players have played 👏🏽👏🏽
Excellent boys, very well done podcast, I had tears in my eyes understanding how much Cricketers of post 2008 are deprived of red ball games when compared with India, Australia and England.
Cricket nations might be forced into organising themselves around their T20 leagues, and that would suck. At the same time, this is also kind of how football is organised, isn't it? FIFA is different than ICC in that it spends more resources on spreading and boosting the sport in emerging nations. But, like ICC, its role in organising international matches is minimal (except the WC). Pakistan has shown the way in how to do that in cricket. Thanks to PSL, its cricket economy is quite strong despite the international isolation. South Africa's motivation behind SA20 was similar. In all scenarios, Test matches will get restricted to the Top3, no doubt. That would truly suck for us 90s ke baabey, but maybe for the younger generation it doesn't make a difference.
yes FIFA, and many sports younger than cricket, organised themselves very differently. I think the colonial relationship made the desire to play international matches more, though in the absence of a true global body, its inevitable cricket will organise around domestic T20s.
If I am not wrong, in this test Pakistani bowlers had less than 200 test wickets while Aussie Bowlers had more than 1200 test matches. No competition possible. Even then, I still hope Pakistan will win one of the remaining matches (you can call me crazy)
U guys did very well but did u count the experience of pakistani batsman vs aus batsman and aus bowlers vs pak bowlers. Our best is baber who have played 50 tests lay be beside him no one have of 30 matches we lack a big experience in tests thats the big reason for faliure in tests matches.
Brilliant. Thank you for discussing the test match dilemma for Pakistani players. While you are at it, please discuss in detail all the reasons behind this allocation of tests? How much is PCB at fault here? And how much is this due to big three unfair advantage? How much is PCB at fault here by focusing more on T20s etc. w.r.t revenue.
if the PCB hadn't focused on the PSL, it would have struggled mightily to continue competitively. the larger issues around scheduling etc is the historical reality of cricket being conducted in a haphazard, ad hoc way, and there is no political or administrative power available to address the needs of the game, rather than its richest teams.
@@BattaFast fair point on PSL and agreed to a larger extent on cricket conducted on a adhoc model. But surely PCB can schedule more tests with nations other than big three e.g we are even scheduling 2 match test series with Sri Lanka. If Eng,Aus is not willing to play with us with 4 odd test series, we certainly can mitigate that (although not w.r.t quality) arranging more test matches with SA,Sri Lanka, Bangladesh. Even Afghanistan
a big reason for that is the revenue vs cost analysis of such test matches. the underdeveloped nature of Pakistan's broadcasting landscape is a big reason we are held back. but even then, test cricket is something that you would expect to be subsidised in order to be relevant, but a proper tournament or league would help generate interest far more.
I am a big fan of Ahmer Naqvi, he is one of the wittiest sports journalists around. However, he needs to come out of this mindset where every conversation with him somehow turns to teams not having played against Pakistan in the UAE (in the Misbah era). I fully agree that there is a disparity in world cricket but not everything is caused by it. They barely discussed the test match and the upcoming tests in today's podcast. Since, Ahmer reads the comments I hope this is seen as constructive criticism and not trolling.
these are fair points. wrt to misbah era, the point is that even if you become the world's no.1 team, you still won't get a chance to play everyone equally. you can choose other examples to make the same point, but this one is easiest to understand how messed up the system is. which is why, if you just choose to examine the test, you would want to ask why is Pakistan playing such an inexperienced team, and why do they not have Test match specialists, and why do they frequently go long periods without playing tests? the answers to these questions are structural, and their consequence is the poor performance. thus, we chose to discuss the structure rather than just repeating the obvious - Pakistan needs more test match specialists, it needs a more robust domestic system to prepare players better for Test cricket, it needs to invest more in player health and discourage players from continuing to play because they need the money etc etc. If you don't like the team Misbah example btw, consider that Kane Williamson has never played a 4 test match series in his career, despite being one of the best red ball players of his generation. Still i understand why fans would not want to dwell too much on these aspects, but for a journalist who has covered cricket for a decade, i am also bored with doing the same old explanations. I am sure you can find those types on mainstream websites (although if it didn't involve Big 3 teams, there is a good chance that coverage would be very limited).
Keep up the good work guys. While I enjoy the analysis, but I don't enjoy the unprofessionalism. I understand that you are trying to keep it very casual but pls you don't have curse or constantly keep scratching yourself.
Shaheen needs a proper recovery. PCB really rushed him after the knee surgery. He will become next Amir (lose pace and swing ) if they don't manage his workload.
"There are kids waiting in the wings to take your job, if you decide to take time off for rehab, you will lose your job"... Shahid Afridi. "Lege raho munna bhai, main hoon na"
Rehab works for countries that have a stable domestic structure and players are paid well. Shaheen knows, if he is dropped or rested, he is a gonner for sure.
As an Indian, it doesn't give me any pleasure to share the following fact. But here it is: Pakistan have lost all 15 Tests played in Australia since 1999. This is the LONGEST losing streak in Test cricket for any side in a particular country. Bangladesh had lost 13 Tests in a row in Bangladesh. between 2001 and 2004.
That intro is just 🔥!! I havent even finished watching the episode but I had to say it. Dil khush ho gaya coz ppl are just having a meltdown and Im like wtf.
Imam needs to up his strike rate. I know it's test cricket but he's still too slow especially when the other team has made 500 and you know you can't bat it all the way through to a draw. Your only chance is to minimize the lead as much as you can.
Sliver lining for pak is thier domestic players success both Amir jamal, khuram shezad proved the formula right that u need long format experienced players in your test team and all other formats cause it's the basic! Shanawaz dhani with his speed and experience in long formats would have been better choice then Shaheen who is tired, exhausted not 100 ℅ fit should have rested for only playing last match of the series same goes to, pak batting thy should have included top 2 domestic run getters in this squad! So the theory of bringing long format players is the only way left to survive in international cricket. There isn't any way around! Aus / ind / new Zeland / England all are dependent heavily on thier long format players who can adopt situations accordingly
@@BattaFast thy have to play to get in the small format, no domestic no sele tion into t20 and odis? It's simple that if some one thinks he can come in pak short format team then gets contarcts for diff leagues then first he have play long formats for pak so or basicly nothing who cares!
Babar will play 100+ tests for sure. Bookmarking this video in a reminder set for 20 Bookmarking this video for a reminder in 2032 to come back and say I told you so 😝
Yes, as soon as we are done with the Australian series, we will go back and play PSL and some sub-standard teams at home and Babar will again come back on top. Poor Pakistanis, just unable to accept the fact that he was hyped up to neutralize the prominence of Kohli by the old guard (Imran and his deputy - Ramiz)
phir wo log kon he jo bolte he world ka best batter King i don't know and wo log kon he jo bas Shaheen ko worldclass bolte he aor wo log kon he jo Muhammad Amir ke har x twits Asif ke bayanat pe neeche 2010 wali tasveer dalkr fixer likh dete hen so I mean Kis moon se log esa karte he If that was a shame then This is a bigger Shame for so called kings i mean unhon ne pese leke underperform kiya to ye bhi pcb se pese lekr underperform kar rahe he han baki itna zaroor hai wo fixer kehlo kuch bhi un me ablity to thi aor In ko dekho bas Naam ke
Love the intro. Hilarious. But i do have to ask does anyone even care about test cricket? I know i certainly dont. Pakistan should stop playing this sh*tty format. Actually stop playing odis too. Stick to T20. Only format that is fun to watch.
And you call yourself a cricket fan saying that? Test cricket was and will remain the ultimate form of the game and only class sides can compete in that. Sadly, Pakistan is not upto the mark. Don’t be a sore loser and accept things!
downplaying lyons 500 wickets and then calling Babar Azam the greatest batsman to have played for Pakistan who scores majority of his runs against west indies, zimbabwe and Sri lanka .............................
Ahmer Naqvi ke Ranty Ronay sunn maza aa jata hai🤣🤣... Baatein tou aise pel rha tha jaise Paxtan, Viv Richards wali West Indies ho. Aur the classic.. "BCCI plz play with us.. BCCI WeZz also wont your money.. Plz give IPL millions to us Paxtanis as well(to twt about Kashmir, Hijabi girl of kerela, Izlamist agendas)...BCCI/Plz help our economy.. So that we can farm Hafiz Syed, and Send terries" Bhaii nahi khelna, ex ke trah piche he pare ho. Apna PSL sambhalo. Hume apne haal pe chor dou, waise bhi, we don't need International cricket BS(where Pak also have some say" ... Let International cricket die, we will build NBA jaisi IPL(~Cricket), where no Paxtani will be allowed to dirty our pool.
alternatively, he's the best batter in a cricket made country that's rarely had good ones. Pakistani marketing or PR isn't that good, he just taps into a long held desire for its fans
Please keep this podcast alive. You two are a breath of fresh air compared to the toxic Pakistani media culture when it comes to reporting and commenting on cricket. God bless you guys!
Thank you, boys. It was a treat! Dont shy away from long form conversations. Keep them coming :)
A light minded and feel good podcast contains, flavor of humor, comedy and realistic comments. Keep it up and keep it on ....Guys
Hafeez ne presser main bhi needlessly bucket hat pehni thi :( hard agree on fashion takes by Osman.
From 2010 to 2023 (post IPL, post SL team attack, i.e isolation era), this is what the data for test matches looks like:
| Country | Matches | W/L
| IND | 139 | 1.80
| AUS | 143 | 1.64
| RSA | 114 | 1.58
| ENG | 173 | 1.29
| NZ | 110 | 1.15
| PAK | 110 | 0.93
| SL | 121 | 0.76
| WI | 111 | 0.52
| BD | 79 | 0.31
1. The difference between IND and PAK is ~30 matches in 14 years; ~2 matches per year. Not that huge
2. If more matches meant a team being better at test cricket, then ENG would be at the top and SA would not be this good
3. Rest of the teams play IND in India while PAK doesn’t; this means PAK’s W/L ratio could have been much worse (no bias, just based on the W/L numbers)
4. If the issue is that PAK doesn’t play AUS, ENG that much then this W/L ratio is even more deplorable
It's true that Pakistan has played fewer tests than the Big 3. But it's undeniable that they have been piss-poor in whatever they have got to play. As for why they’ve been this bad, that’s all on PAK: the board and the personnel, the domestic structure, and even players' priorities. NZ and SA aren’t flush with resources cricket-wise (both human and monetary) when compared with PAK, how do they still manage to do much better than PAK?
I guess instead of lamenting the world's perceived injustices imposed on Pakistan you need to reflect much more on the part played by self-inflicted wounds
Brilliant stuff. Pakistanis sadly wouldn’t understand or accept this. There are very few experts out there in Pakistan who actually accept these things but rather keep on cribbing for all the reasons. In the end, this is a country with 0 achievement in any other sport barring cricket and even cricket for them is left to just t20 cricket and slowly but surely odi, test level for them has fallen to a great extent.
The guy on the right would never accept a single good thing about India, very evident from his views in other discussions.
According to your stats above, IND has played ~25% more, AUS 30% more and ENG ~60% more tests. Why would you say this isn't meaningful?
Secondly, the time period starting in 2010 is a bit arbitrary. I believe PAK really started getting left behind after 2015 when the Big 3 came together. If you look at the same stats post Jan 1, 2015, you will note that the Big 3 have played almost 100% more test matches vs PAK. Hence the point the podcasters are making that no PAK player from this era will play 100 matches and they even gave examples of the likes of Misbah, Azhar and Asad who got no where close to 100.
Having said that, there is no doubt that there are many self inflicted wounds and yes those are the bigger problem vs. the damage the big 3 has done.
The issue is that when teams don't play regularly they don't have a chance to compete as well. There is no surprise that the more you play in a set of conditions the better you perform. Secondly India in UAE would have struggled given how it couldn't handle aussie spinner's at home. But it never had to play there. But let's just remove Pakistan from it. The issue still remains that cricket has no proper league format and a haphazard schedule.
also, "If the issue is that PAK doesn’t play AUS, ENG that much then this W/L ratio is even more deplorable"
In the past 10 years, Pakistan's record in England is 3-4-2, while India's is 4-9-2. The assumption above is clearly mistaken, so the issue is not about lamenting but pointing out actual disparities.
@@BattaFast I am sure the W/L numbers I quoted earlier include these numbers for both IND and PAK.
Also, if PAK has a good record against ENG despite ENG playing a lot more test cricket than PAK, doesn't that weaken your argument of PAK shitting the bed only due to PAK playing much less?
The point is, when it comes to test cricket, for Pakistan, it's still more of a 'me issue' than anything else
My God, I love Naqvi bhai! Itna mazaydaar denial and astonishment afterwards 😀
As an Indian who grew up watching cricket in the late 90s, My heart sank listening to Ahmer and Osman.
BCCI and ICC are the worlds most shortsighted organisations that are going to ruin international cricket long term. Already Cricket and especially tests have barely any interest in the world. If it becomes just three countries, it will die.
A country like Pakistan that has genuine great test cricketing tradition, deep pools of talent, lots of people and genuine interest (unlike say West Indies that’s missing the last two), should be encouraged as much as possible with as many bilateral series not just because it’s right to do but also because it’s the only way international cricket survives long term.
What a bunch of selfish, short sighted morons.
Love the podcast btw and hope the right people listen to you Ahmer and Osman you need to make a bigger deal of this as one of the biggest cricketing writers in the world!
same...i always judge a bowler if averages 100 wickets per 25 matches...
As per Chat GPT:
Q: Who invented the Doosra?
The doosra is often associated with Saqlain Mushtaq, a former Pakistani cricketer who is credited with popularizing and mastering the delivery. Saqlain Mushtaq is considered one of the pioneers of the doosra, and he introduced this variation during the late 1990s.
Saqlain Mushtaq played a crucial role in Pakistan's success in international cricket, and his proficiency in bowling the doosra added a new dimension to the art of off-spin bowling. The doosra became a notable weapon in his bowling arsenal, and other spin bowlers, both in Pakistan and around the world, subsequently adopted and experimented with this delivery.
While Saqlain Mushtaq is often associated with the doosra, it's important to note that cricket, like many sports, evolves over time, and innovations in techniques and strategies are often built upon by various players. The doosra has since been bowled by several spin bowlers from different cricketing nations, each bringing their own variations and adaptations to the delivery.
Loved this episode , i will appreciate this kind of detailed discussion on pak cricket
You guys did an amazing job summarizing the inequalities of international test matches. And in between you presented the anecdote as well. Have a competitive first class test competition which people can be drawn towards. Even with the current production of the QaT the views on PCB channel are pretty healthy. However one thing is interesting how many people are going on about wasim khan and Rambo era. They didn’t get a lot of love when they were present. However over simplified or not the diagnosis of quality over quantity by imran khan was atleast a step in the right direction. It should have been continued. But the current PCB is hell bent of reversing every thing from that time. Captains , structures , coaches and even keepers with Rizwan being forced to sit out.
Problem that cricketers had with 6 teams structure was that majority of the existing cricketers don't get any platform to play. And hence they become unemployed. 8 teams wouldn't fix this either.. they need to have grading but yes bringing departments is not a solution. It has zero association for people to watch.
Grade 1,2, 3 will ensure quality, competitiveness, employment, and constant supply to national team.
The way osman talked about bilal asif.....Man crush alert!
Amazing how this chat veered from Pakistan's batting performance in the Test to breaking down Lynn's 501 Test wickets, to the domestic cricket in Pakistan before questioning the number of Tests Pakistan and England players have played 👏🏽👏🏽
Excellent boys, very well done podcast, I had tears in my eyes understanding how much Cricketers of post 2008 are deprived of red ball games when compared with India, Australia and England.
You guys are developing a loyal fanbase. Keep this content coming. Loving this.
Cricket nations might be forced into organising themselves around their T20 leagues, and that would suck. At the same time, this is also kind of how football is organised, isn't it? FIFA is different than ICC in that it spends more resources on spreading and boosting the sport in emerging nations. But, like ICC, its role in organising international matches is minimal (except the WC). Pakistan has shown the way in how to do that in cricket. Thanks to PSL, its cricket economy is quite strong despite the international isolation. South Africa's motivation behind SA20 was similar. In all scenarios, Test matches will get restricted to the Top3, no doubt. That would truly suck for us 90s ke baabey, but maybe for the younger generation it doesn't make a difference.
yes FIFA, and many sports younger than cricket, organised themselves very differently. I think the colonial relationship made the desire to play international matches more, though in the absence of a true global body, its inevitable cricket will organise around domestic T20s.
Yoi don't have someone genius like Pant to defeat aussies 🙂
Request a review of the recent Pak women's cricket tour to NZ. Some good wins for the team in T20 and ODI as well.
yes they've had a fantastic tour! will definitely do so
Please keep the podcasts coming, love them
Keep them coming plzz..loved itt❤
If I am not wrong, in this test Pakistani bowlers had less than 200 test wickets while Aussie Bowlers had more than 1200 test matches. No competition possible. Even then, I still hope Pakistan will win one of the remaining matches (you can call me crazy)
U guys did very well but did u count the experience of pakistani batsman vs aus batsman and aus bowlers vs pak bowlers. Our best is baber who have played 50 tests lay be beside him no one have of 30 matches we lack a big experience in tests thats the big reason for faliure in tests matches.
If Hafeez and Shan are giving you batting plans as Osman mentioned, then this is bound to happen.
Its all about Commercialization, Cricket jahan ziada bikay ga waheen sub se ziada matches khele jayen gay.
not about cricket ka bikna - pakistan mei bahut bikta hai. but depends on the economy too and ours is terrible.
this was fun ...again!
Brilliant. Thank you for discussing the test match dilemma for Pakistani players. While you are at it, please discuss in detail all the reasons behind this allocation of tests? How much is PCB at fault here? And how much is this due to big three unfair advantage? How much is PCB at fault here by focusing more on T20s etc. w.r.t revenue.
if the PCB hadn't focused on the PSL, it would have struggled mightily to continue competitively. the larger issues around scheduling etc is the historical reality of cricket being conducted in a haphazard, ad hoc way, and there is no political or administrative power available to address the needs of the game, rather than its richest teams.
@@BattaFast fair point on PSL and agreed to a larger extent on cricket conducted on a adhoc model. But surely PCB can schedule more tests with nations other than big three e.g we are even scheduling 2 match test series with Sri Lanka. If Eng,Aus is not willing to play with us with 4 odd test series, we certainly can mitigate that (although not w.r.t quality) arranging more test matches with SA,Sri Lanka, Bangladesh. Even Afghanistan
a big reason for that is the revenue vs cost analysis of such test matches. the underdeveloped nature of Pakistan's broadcasting landscape is a big reason we are held back. but even then, test cricket is something that you would expect to be subsidised in order to be relevant, but a proper tournament or league would help generate interest far more.
Broooo yaiyaaa team hai, you must mention that
Keep the episodes coming
Ahmer Bhai nikhar rahay Hain
Literally
Osman Bhai tussi Gold o
I'm on my Ahmer Naqvi binge-watch.
I am a big fan of Ahmer Naqvi, he is one of the wittiest sports journalists around. However, he needs to come out of this mindset where every conversation with him somehow turns to teams not having played against Pakistan in the UAE (in the Misbah era). I fully agree that there is a disparity in world cricket but not everything is caused by it. They barely discussed the test match and the upcoming tests in today's podcast. Since, Ahmer reads the comments I hope this is seen as constructive criticism and not trolling.
these are fair points. wrt to misbah era, the point is that even if you become the world's no.1 team, you still won't get a chance to play everyone equally. you can choose other examples to make the same point, but this one is easiest to understand how messed up the system is.
which is why, if you just choose to examine the test, you would want to ask why is Pakistan playing such an inexperienced team, and why do they not have Test match specialists, and why do they frequently go long periods without playing tests? the answers to these questions are structural, and their consequence is the poor performance. thus, we chose to discuss the structure rather than just repeating the obvious - Pakistan needs more test match specialists, it needs a more robust domestic system to prepare players better for Test cricket, it needs to invest more in player health and discourage players from continuing to play because they need the money etc etc.
If you don't like the team Misbah example btw, consider that Kane Williamson has never played a 4 test match series in his career, despite being one of the best red ball players of his generation.
Still i understand why fans would not want to dwell too much on these aspects, but for a journalist who has covered cricket for a decade, i am also bored with doing the same old explanations. I am sure you can find those types on mainstream websites (although if it didn't involve Big 3 teams, there is a good chance that coverage would be very limited).
Keep up the good work guys. While I enjoy the analysis, but I don't enjoy the unprofessionalism. I understand that you are trying to keep it very casual but pls you don't have curse or constantly keep scratching yourself.
Shaheen needs a proper recovery. PCB really rushed him after the knee surgery. He will become next Amir (lose pace and swing ) if they don't manage his workload.
"There are kids waiting in the wings to take your job, if you decide to take time off for rehab, you will lose your job"... Shahid Afridi. "Lege raho munna bhai, main hoon na"
Rehab works for countries that have a stable domestic structure and players are paid well. Shaheen knows, if he is dropped or rested, he is a gonner for sure.
As an Indian, it doesn't give me any pleasure to share the following fact. But here it is:
Pakistan have lost all 15 Tests played in Australia since 1999.
This is the LONGEST losing streak in Test cricket for any side in a particular country.
Bangladesh had lost 13 Tests in a row in Bangladesh. between 2001 and 2004.
Meri jaan we know this horrible fact all too well
Great show guys! keep it up! As a Pak fan, is it safe to say that Cricket has died in Pakistan?
array nahi nahi - warna hum show kis pe kerte
@@BattaFast yeh bhi hai 😂
Nobody is discussing the most important thing! What’s with the bucket hats!? The leadership group has taken a liking to them
Bucket hats look ugly. We need to bin them.
Inferiority complex - they think aping the gorah will get them accepted as cool
Finally, the attire represents a team on vacation.
correction: osman sammuddin does address it at the 15 min mark. and he says what we all were thinking. guru phir guru he hota hai
If Australia wins this series 3-0, I will pick up tab for biryani for Karachi Khatmal during my next trip to Pakistan!
YESSS
That intro is just 🔥!! I havent even finished watching the episode but I had to say it. Dil khush ho gaya coz ppl are just having a meltdown and Im like wtf.
Imam needs to up his strike rate. I know it's test cricket but he's still too slow especially when the other team has made 500 and you know you can't bat it all the way through to a draw. Your only chance is to minimize the lead as much as you can.
Did u see pujara and ajanke rahane innings agaisnt aus in 2020.when they won the series?
Sliver lining for pak is thier domestic players success both Amir jamal, khuram shezad proved the formula right that u need long format experienced players in your test team and all other formats cause it's the basic! Shanawaz dhani with his speed and experience in long formats would have been better choice then Shaheen who is tired, exhausted not 100 ℅ fit should have rested for only playing last match of the series same goes to, pak batting thy should have included top 2 domestic run getters in this squad! So the theory of bringing long format players is the only way left to survive in international cricket. There isn't any way around! Aus / ind / new Zeland / England all are dependent heavily on thier long format players who can adopt situations accordingly
why would players continue with long format cricket when it doesn't pay them much
@@BattaFast thy have to play to get in the small format, no domestic no sele tion into t20 and odis? It's simple that if some one thinks he can come in pak short format team then gets contarcts for diff leagues then first he have play long formats for pak so or basicly nothing who cares!
Sir ne aaj hair colour karaye hai. Looking macho man
Babar will play 100+ tests for sure. Bookmarking this video in a reminder set for 20 Bookmarking this video for a reminder in 2032 to come back and say I told you so 😝
Yes, as soon as we are done with the Australian series, we will go back and play PSL and some sub-standard teams at home and Babar will again come back on top. Poor Pakistanis, just unable to accept the fact that he was hyped up to neutralize the prominence of Kohli by the old guard (Imran and his deputy - Ramiz)
just as i thought, Babar was a disaster in Australia where it mattered the most
Next Pakistani to play 100 test is anyone who somehow ends up playing for England or Australia
usman khawaja
@@BattaFast Yeah.. Fingers crossed🤞
phir wo log kon he jo bolte he world ka best batter King i don't know and wo log kon he jo bas Shaheen ko worldclass bolte he aor wo log kon he jo Muhammad Amir ke har x twits Asif ke bayanat pe neeche 2010 wali tasveer dalkr fixer likh dete hen so I mean Kis moon se log esa karte he If that was a shame then This is a bigger Shame for so called kings i mean unhon ne pese leke underperform kiya to ye bhi pcb se pese lekr underperform kar rahe he han baki itna zaroor hai wo fixer kehlo kuch bhi un me ablity to thi aor In ko dekho bas Naam ke
Love the intro. Hilarious. But i do have to ask does anyone even care about test cricket? I know i certainly dont. Pakistan should stop playing this sh*tty format. Actually stop playing odis too. Stick to T20. Only format that is fun to watch.
And you call yourself a cricket fan saying that? Test cricket was and will remain the ultimate form of the game and only class sides can compete in that. Sadly, Pakistan is not upto the mark. Don’t be a sore loser and accept things!
downplaying lyons 500 wickets and then calling Babar Azam the greatest batsman to have played for Pakistan who scores majority of his runs against west indies, zimbabwe and Sri lanka .............................
not sure this actually happened
@@BattaFast in my head it did
Ahmer Naqvi ke Ranty Ronay sunn maza aa jata hai🤣🤣... Baatein tou aise pel rha tha jaise Paxtan, Viv Richards wali West Indies ho.
Aur the classic..
"BCCI plz play with us.. BCCI WeZz also wont your money.. Plz give IPL millions to us Paxtanis as well(to twt about Kashmir, Hijabi girl of kerela, Izlamist agendas)...BCCI/Plz help our economy.. So that we can farm Hafiz Syed, and Send terries"
Bhaii nahi khelna, ex ke trah piche he pare ho. Apna PSL sambhalo. Hume apne haal pe chor dou, waise bhi, we don't need International cricket BS(where Pak also have some say" ... Let International cricket die, we will build NBA jaisi IPL(~Cricket), where no Paxtani will be allowed to dirty our pool.
Babar is a bang average marketing product smartly designed & packaged by pak pr machinery & sold as a brand
alternatively, he's the best batter in a cricket made country that's rarely had good ones. Pakistani marketing or PR isn't that good, he just taps into a long held desire for its fans
Boss dont mind plz make your vedios short not like 54 MIN ...try to sum up in 15 -20 min ...
No way dude.can here these guys for hours
No bro I would listen to them for hours
Noo
No, please don't shorten. Akeef Bhai aap playback speed badhaa kar sun lein
@@abrahamabhishek4240 I am taking my words back for shortening the vlog .. BTW good advice
Whats the song
We have shared it on the page on its own