Trade EV Car Auction from Aston Barclay 1st August 2024
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✅This month's trade sale is from Aston Barclay, sorry about the poor sound! join me next month for Septembers auction of used EV's
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The voice over is the way to go. I hope your future auction videos will be the same 😊
+1 just record the video live then overdub the audio later in true Top Of the Pops style!
@@decimal1815 🤣🤣🤣👍👍
Seems a lot of capital to tie up for a £2k profit....and wouldn't a potential buyer be worried about PX or trade on in the future
when there is considerable depreciation in the pipe line?
Rule of thumb in car auctions is first price is best price put it through a second time will go for less. On that basis the arse is falling out the market.
Cap clean is bottom book so if a car is selling on cap they isn’t prices rising
Could you put up what these cost new so we can see the depreciation
Then give the pence per mile
You don't know what the previous purchaser paid because no one pays list price
Hi Jonathan,
Thank you for all the content. I am on the verge of switching from ICE to EV and found your channel.
I've binge-watched many of your videos and feel like I've found the best way to buy an EV :)
I need help deciding what to buy and will soon be contacting eco-cars with my requirements.
What I've set out for: Value for Money. Spend as little as possible to buy a Tesla close to or under CAP Clean prices, and still under warranty.
Notes: Buy a car that is Grade 1 and still under Tesla Warranty (4 years/50K miles). Tesla offers an extended warranty for cars still covered under the new car warranty. So, I will buy a two-year warranty from them for peace of mind.
Here are my options:
Buy a Tesla Model 3 Long Range 2021 with less than 30k miles or under 50k miles for close to CAP Clean prices.
Buy a Tesla Model 3 Long Range 2020 (70 plate, under 50k miles) for close to CAP Clean prices.
Buy a Tesla Standard Range 70 plate (under 50k miles) for close to CAP Clean prices.
Shanghai-built models are preferred, but I acknowledge that for Options 2 and 3, they are a rarity (70 Reg - Jan - Feb 2021).
I live in the Midlands, doing mostly local runs (school runs, groceries, etc.) with occasional long trips during holidays (think traveling to Scotland).
Could you please share your thoughts? Also if possible a note on what i can expect on each options. Have seen your video and got a rough idea.
Appreciate all the knowledge being shared.
Regards,
Siva
Hi Jonathan, do you see many MG 4's at auction? They seem very popular with lots about, but hardly any seem to get auctioned recently? I wonder if most people buy them rather than lease, due to the cheaper starting price?
Hi Jonathan.
Andyfox1680 makes a valid point - it's all well and good saying that EV prices are "on the up" because they're selling at auction for over CAP Clean, but, if that CAP Clean figure represents a HUGE depreciation hit anyway, then it's not exactly a shining example of positivity.
For example, that Cupra Born 58kWh V2 sold for £22,600 on a '73 plate with under 5,000 miles.
On Autotrader, that car can be bought for around £31,800 after discounts.
So, the difference is a £9,200 (29%) depreciation hit - which, I think in anybody's eyes sounds like a lot for a 7-month old car...!
But, if that compares equally with similar combustion-engined cars going through the same auction, then that's fine - so, as others have also mentioned before, maybe adding a few equivalent ICE car auction prices in your videos would be re-assuring to potential EV buyers that their money is 'as safe' as it would've been if spent on an ICE car.
What do you think?
It is comparable with ICE. Every brand new car loses a lot just driving it off the forecourt.
Thanks Jonathan. Great to see just EV cars selling backed up with your comments from years of experience of EV sales.
The PCP on my Leaf E+ is ends in October 2025. I will owe a whopping £16,972 on it. I am going to have to hand it back to the finance company and have nothing towards a new car. When I switched from my last Leaf PCP I had amazingly £7,000 equity in the old car!
This is the reason i prefer PCH , esp from Arval , as you can pay market value at the end and buy OR hand it back.
@@JonathanPorterfield I will look into this next spring.
Are Tesla model 3 prices softening a bit ? There seems to be more coming onto the marketplace , great news for used buyers .
Yes !
I like the Cupra Born almost as much as our ID.3. Would go for either with the big battery.
Interesting to see strong demand for EVs at auction; thanks for sharing.
The voiceover works well; much easier to follow than the patter from the Auctioneer. 👍
??? Most didn't sell...
I like you, you're funny 😘
A pity no Kia eNiros there to get a gauge of the market, but still interesting to see what's happening. Planning on switching from a Kona Ultimate to a Niro with a heat pump so would be useful to see what a 4 or 4+ is going for. Sent my form back to Ecocars a week ago and not heard a peep yet, both of my sons bought through them (one was the Ioniq from Aston Barclay to Caithness) and experienced similar levels of customer servcie but persevered, I'm not sure I'll be so forgiving.
Hi Gary , im sorry to hear this , please be aware that i just advise eco cars now , since i sold my business 3 years ago.
I have alerted the directors today of your comments.
Best regards Jp
@@JonathanPorterfield Yep, I know you're not involved on a day to day basis any more, but I figured you still care about your legacy. Thanks for alerting them.
I pick so many of you're ex colleagues from BCA and other sites in corby etc might have bumped into you if you was still in the game 😂😂😂 Cheers
Sorry to be pedantic, but the vauxhall badge is a wyvern, not a Griffin.
I never knew that ! 😳
BUT mrs P has just googled it , quote , a Griffin has the head and wings of an eagle and a lower bidy and tail of a lion , and was symbolic of power , wealth and courage.
A Wyvern is a dragons head and bat like wings , and a long curly drangons tail as in the welsh or wessex flag.
Dont mess with Mrs P 😂😊😊😊😊
The badge is Griffin. There was a Vauxhall Wyvern car from 1948, so maybe that is what you are confusing with the badge.
Looks like the trade are buying 'wind-knife' cars for Uber drivers, they really like them!
Lots of hybrid Ioniqs around where I live but don't often see the EV version as a taxi. Probably due to poor charging infrastructure..
I assume they qualify for the £5k uber ev contribution.
Pmsl EV prices are on the way up🤔
Most of these evs sold for above CAP ( trade values)
You used to buy but have sold the business, who to please? The savings by buying at auction are huge!
Web site is still eco-cars.net
love your videos, tried messaging reflex but they havent got back since i filled out the needs form :)
Got a BMW IX through Reflex. Saved around 6K on retail although it did cost 44K + £500 paintwork on it. Very pleased with reflex.
Same happened to me, filled out the questionnaire and no contact after that...even tried to phone them, not best way to run a business.
Been watching used EV values closely for the least few months and have seen them rise steadily over that time....annoyingly. I'm looking to buy but wasn't quite ready yet. Now they're a few k more expensive for the same car.
You must have your phone upside down 😂, no EV prices are rising steadily
@mikeolly67 right back at you. Used EVs are rising. If you just watched this video, you'll already know they're selling above their CAP guidelines, which are based on historic sales. So that means they're rising.
@@GreenEnergyGuyd yes I watched it, non of the octopus cars sold and meanwhile over at British car auctions, EVs are under book, I have trade account, I can see what they are making
@mikeolly67 none of the Octopus cars sold because octopus were asking for more than CAP clean...that's not the cars fault.
I’m slightly confused. 8 or 9 cars are unsold and not meeting the price. One sells at £200 above the CAP price and you say EV prices are going up. Gaslighting?
As i said in the video, the 1st 9 cars were from Octopus electric vehicles ( leased) and they instructed Aston Barclay to sell at values Octopus want for each car.
The next vendor ( seller) was zenith , and it looks like they too had set 'reserves' much lower than cap , overall most of these sold for over cap , hence my comments that values are rising on the hammer !
@@JonathanPorterfieldfair comment but still confused. The fact that the first seller of the 9 cars didn’t accept the bids doesn’t alter the fact that of those 9 cars only 5 got above CAP average and only 1 got above CAP clean and that was by only £200. 1 of them was 4k below CAP average. it’s obvious to me that unless you lease a car which is exactly the same as hiring it, the residual values mean there is no point in even considering an electric car. Anyway never mind good luck with spreading the gospel. Until you can charge an electric car in five minutes and there are many charging points as petrol stations it’s a no from me. I find it sad that as a society we are going backwards instead of forwards. my grandfather who died in 1979 could not only get to New York quicker than I can today despite the technical standards of the time, by flying on Concorde, he could also get in a petrol or diesel car from his home in London and drive to Edinburgh quicker than an electric car built over quarter of a century after he died. For the record I’m not a climate change denier but I can’t help feeling that electric cars are the betamax of the automobile industry.
@@JonathanPorterfield sorry my bad maths nearly 50 years after he died
@Cupidstuntfc i often use the comparison with concorde verses todays flights , and how 'no one' complains it takes longer than 30 years ago to fly London / New York.
You're the 1st !
I personally dont think it's a bad thing that we all slow down a bit in life , and with video conferencing the need to fly huge distances to meet 'face to face' to do business is not needed.
Same with driving vast distances in an ev , my limit is around 250 milesin a day , then i need to sleep 😴 ( and i pick hotels with a ev charger , or an outside 3 pin socket) when i awake ive a good 300 miles range in my kia e niro.
EVs are not for everyone, but if drivers think differently they can change and see that driving an EV is no great inconvenience 😊
@@JonathanPorterfield too much information for you I know but I am a retired estate agent. I have no truck with people whose business it is with electric vehicles to promote the positives. I cannot tell you how many times in a negative market I extolled the virtues of a buying a house. Maybe they are the future but the ridiculous mission statements of the car manufacturers that say they will stop producing petrol/diesel engines in the very near future is just madness. I’m sure at sometime in the future there will be electric vehicles that can be charged instantly and infrastructure that supports it but I reckon that could be as many as 30+ years away. Good luck with the channel 👍
How do you think the energy for your dirty ev cars is created?
From 100% renewables here in Orkney( since 2013) , and a huge % in the rest of the uk
...and how do you think the fuel for your dirty combustion-engined cars is created?
I find it laughable that the anti-EV trolls are quick to assert that electricity power generation for EVs means they're not that 'clean', yet they completely ignore the environmental carnage that drilling for, transporting, refining, distributing and dispensing petrol & diesel has inflicted on the planet and its populations for over a century...!
Even now in 2024, every 6 weeks on average, there's an oil tanker spillage somewhere in our seas, releasing 10,000s of tonnes of oil in to the marine environment.
And it's not just at sea - according to their 2023 annual report, Shell reported a pipeline oil leak every 41 hours on average, releasing 1000s tonnes of oil in to crop soils and waterways.
So, do you STILL want to argue about which fuel is cleaner...? 🤦♂
Where do fossil stooges think all the smog they see over their cities comes from? Power plants 110 mi away? 😆 1 power plant over the horizon is what's filling the sky with the haze you can see everyday? You shut off all the fossil fuel cars and that all goes away the next day.