'Poisoning the well': Florida middle schoolers to be dragged into DeSantis' war on history
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- Опубликовано: 19 июл 2023
- The latest educational repercussions of Ron DeSantis's campaign against "woke" is a set of new guidelines that will have Florida middle school students learning false, racist tropes about the benefits of slavery to slaves and casting racist violence against Black people in a more "both sides" context. Jelani Cobb, dean of the Columbia Journalism School discusses with Alex Wagner.
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Florida has gone all 1770's racist
1770s were less racist than florida republicans today.
FACT
Now it all becomes crystal clear what trump means when he says make America great again he had 1770's in mind this is from a guy that claimed he's the least racist person in America
3 centuries behind 🤮🤬🤮
Tallahassee should be careful. they could turn Florida into another "summer of love". maybe they want that. these people are crazy.
So Desantis knows better. It’s not ignorance; it’s evil and manipulative.
DeSantis studied fascism and how to make that happen.
The guy laughed at men being tortured
@@JessesanMan right and then when he got called out on his participation in torture, DeSantis didn't deny it, but instead how could anyone really remember what happened close to 20 years ago to identify him? I know people that survived the Holocaust, liberated from camps as children, that can still identify the soldiers and officers of that camp. Maybe it was just a daily blur of the job to DeSantis, but to the men he hurt, it mattered.
Actually it’s it’s telling the whole truth to school children. My Great Great Grandfather was a slave in the inhumane institution. He was a black smith and was able to market that skill when emancipated by his enslaver and migrated to PA. He set up his own business. He was able to buy his daughter and wife freedom. Slavery is a sin in the eyes of God, but my family’s history has a right to be told in schools as well. as well. And not to burst anyone’s bubble but just like any other racial group black violence justified or not justified is history.
Let’s tell the whole truth no matter how uncomfortable it is.👍🏿💯
Well racist believe evil is the way of God
🧑🏾As a retired teacher I am ashamed of my governor and every single Floridarian who doesn’t fight racism🧑🏾
Vote blue
This move of DeSantis is UNACCEPTABLE!!!!!
Once we accept an action we can.lve forward with changing it.
We have to accept it because the actions by Desantis has and is happening.
We have to work to make it better and. change his actions
This is terrifying. As a Black Woman and Floridian...this has already been in the water. Every day I see a new reason to leave and never come back.
Please honey, get out of Florida 💞😭🥴
Y'all need to file a lawsuit. A parent(s) should file a class action lawsuit.
@@jaynemarino7011 : a bunch of insurance companies have already taken your advice, thank you. Good luck.
Get out, Florida is not a safe state for sensible people
i know it’s hard but consider leaving florida. that state will only get worse. sincerely, an asian-californian.
Slaves had no more "personal lives" than their hammers had. They were regarded as tools, not human beings. Shame, shame Florida!
NO. 🤔 shame on the Governor of Florida. Ron DeSantis who 's a poor excuse for a human being and Governor. Disgusting man. Wake up Florida before it's to late. 😤
Please be kind, Florida is suffering from a severe infection of taker deplorables right now.
Not Fl DeSantis
@@doncharle7102 And his legislature. And his administration. And his supporters. And his donors.
That's millions.
I'm in FL. too. Things are fixin' to get UGLY here as the cult sees their house of cards fall back into the latrine.
"You were educated in Florida, weren't you?" might become a common insult in the near future.
And Oklahoma is penning their thank you note now.
@@shihtzusrule9115Yes, Oklahoma is NOT OK
@@tytania3545That's very funny...like your grammar. It's You're not your.
@@tytania3545 French, Portuguese, Spanish, Italian, Tagalog, and some Arabic.
"Roots" and "12 Years a Slave" both need to be re-released on the silverscreen for ALL to see.
@m.d. carter5368~My thoughts EXACTLY~re-release "Roots" and "12 Years a Slave"! Make People Aware!! The movie, "Roots" had a Major impact on me~it's one thing reading about something~seeing it on the screen~or living through it 😱😡😭👀📚
Silver screen? How about just posting them on RUclips so younger folks might actually watch them ;)
@@travcollierthe silver screen is a metaphor. You must be young.
Desantis bans books but allows fake whitewashed Black history to indoctrinate your child in his right wing school system.
The FL Board of Education decision poisoned the well of education must be radical extreme Trump party members.
There is no CRT taught in school it’s Republican’s evil mind game.
Don’t send your child to a Florida school. They will not learn the truth of American history.
Ron does an excellent job of making Florida dumber every day.
That is the point. They want a nice regimented society. He know what he is doing and it is not good for anyone but him!
Fact
DeSantis is a first class creep. That usually appeals to GOP voters. Ted Cruz, Donald Trump, Mitch McConnell…it’s not a flaw..it’s a feature of Republicans
VERO INVESTIGATE PROSECUTE CONVICT AND JAIL RON DESANTIS for human trafficking and miappropriantion of funds for the people of Florida
He shows that Floridan are racist. They voted for him in large numbers, knowing that he is racist
The same people who are always downplaying slavery are the same people that believe that being told to wear a mask while shopping is the greatest form of oppression in human history
Facts
There was an interestingly repeated tactic of deliberately trivialising genuine issues by co-opting them.
“I can’t breathe”
“My body, my choice”
Also holocaust Star of David references.
The distain they have shown for the first two issues is so bitter I’m surprised they would even associate with those slogans. Would you adopt a slogan of “child murderers” to gain empathy for your point about masks? I think this indicates disingenuity about those issues. I also believe this implies the same about the third.
Yup
America is white too white and republican
@peterd9698 great point.
There should be national education standards. And school funding shouldn't be based on property taxes.
And they call black people the barbarians
...when in fact, amidst areas of apt bitterness, few communities have given more to our society, and to our sacred precepts of Liberty & Justice for All.
It is really sickening. Makes me infuriated that we could have all moved on by now if reconstruction hadn’t been sabotaged/ too wimpy. Imagine. If all those freed people had gotten to keep their 40 acres. Reparations now!!!
A barbarian is actually a German. It is a white person that was not of the Latin Romulus set that called themselves Gens.
Today, because it has a negative Historical account of their behavior and ignorance around history, it is being labeled to us in Hollywood, and in other areas of secular recital.
African people and their diaspora are factually and without a doubt "jews" (Yehudi/Yehudit). 100%
@@edvh88ight, they are actively making a case for reparations
They sure act like it.
Yale should REVOKE HIS DEGREE. He makes their school look like CRAP.
Pretty much. He makes white people look worse than they already do.
And yeah, I am white too. I want him gone. Out of the country or out of public life. Don’t care which.
A true embarrassment to the educational institutions from wence he sprung!!
Doesn't every single graduate of Yale do that?
@lmak-rf9fn Excuse me? No, we don't. He's truly an anomaly. But, let me guess, you're from Harvard?
I’ve noticed people who go to really good schools are really bad at history
I was born in Florida and have lots of family there. We are embarrassed!! Embarrassed
This is so disturbing and disgusting on so many levels. I am embarrassed to live in this state.
Tell it to your therapist.
Vote with your feet = LEAVE.
@@edwardrichardson7076 If only I could. Moved here to care for my aging parent.
@@shane99ca Tell it to the demon you worship!
You can vote.
If slavery was so beneficial for Black folks, & that they were taught new skills, then how come they were NOT allowed to learn to read or write? Wouldn't that have been the most beneficial skill for them before all the others?!
That's a phenomenal point. It directly and irrefutably contradicts the idea that slaves eventually had a better life in the US than they would have had in Africa.
Their quality of life wasn't an issue anyone in charge cared about back then. In fact, it was illegal to give them the most important skills of all.
Honestly, at the end of the day, it doesn't matter. If I kidnap someone's kid, my argument can't be that I've got more resources and they kid turned out better. I still kidnapped the kid. So the argument that the slaves learned skills is so disgusting, the only conclusion that one can draw is that the person making the argument KNOWS that they're being evil and they're enjoying it.
@@dontbanmebrodontbanme5403 Yep. I would like to ask DeSantis and other slavery apologists if they would accept my proposal: they lose all rights they currently enjoy, right to bodily autonomy, right to freedom of movement, freedom of speech etc. In return I prove to them I could provide them with everything their every need. Universal healthcare, check! Exquisite dinners every day cooked by the world's finest chefs, check! The world's most comfortable beds, check! I don't think they would accept my proposal, even if I can prove to them that they will have an objectively better life, at least materially.
Freedom is in and of itself very valuable, and it is what makes us human, in my opinion. It's peculiar that American Republicans can't see that, given how much they value their freedoms in other areas.
Instead of just listening to politicians talk about slave life we need to offer these people the opportunity to truly experience it. This would be an educational experience. After this experience they will be able to speak with authority about the "benefits" of slavery because they will really have first-hand knowledge/experience. The following is a description of this camp experience: Go to the two-week historically accurate "Slave Camp". There you will eat what the slaves ate, live in slave quarters, wear what they wore, perform the work they performed, and blindly follow the orders of your "Master" - again historically accurate orders.
They wouldn't last long enough to get lunch on their first day.
This is outrageous and morally -reprehensible. If I had a kid in those schools, I would fight hard to not allow my child to be indoctrinated like this. I have a BA in history, and I don’t live in Florida. But I would work in my own state if necessary to offer public classes teaching the TRUTH to parents and their children.
The bigger problem is the board of education cosigned this BS.
This is what you get when national conservative organizations put money into electing conservatives in local school board elections nationwide.
Well they are Satan seed
It's his Florida board of education he literally made for this purpose
That's because more people than you believe in what he's doing. Believe me you're all the minority
People that he appointed On The Board of Education
DeSantis, Trump, Mussolini, Stalin, Hitler... same dictator, different day.
So true, but what is even scarier is that, no matter how many times history repeats itself, people still fail to heed the warnings.
Mitch McConnell?
@@ucapt-it6vfHe’s a behind the scenes operator. He doesn’t like to be in the spotlight anymore than he has to be.
fortunatelly desantis and trump dont have much power, for now!
dont give them any
Trump was never this bad
As long as the Republicon party holds Florida, I will never vacation there. This is disgusting.
How is it legal to teach children a false history? This is absolutely criminal.
Would call it "Fairy Tale", not History.
worked well in the UK, so why not use it in the USA!
you speak English, too... so its easy to apply to you!
Not if we were in Russia. But we live in America which represents the aspirations of seeking truth.
Sorry to say, DeSantis is in office because of VOTERS! That is where change can happen! Don’t like it? Change it!!
This is the worst case of “if we don’t learn from history then we’re doomed to repeat it” I’ve evert seen.
The GOP needs to be voted out!
The current majority of them for sure. There are good Republicans out there and it was once a respectable party. I'm an independent, and have been the 53 years I've been eligible to vote. I've always voted for the person and not the party. In today's RRR there are very few qualified candidates. The current RRR majority are racist, Christian fascists.
@@charlespartrick528they've always been racist, think about Reagan.
@@skankhunt3624 He's where it really took hold. In the first half of the 20th century, up to the 1950s, the south was controlled by the Democrats and they were very racist. Reagan wooed, welcomed, embraced and support these racist , white, evangelical Christians as they were no longer happy as the Democratic party veered away from racism and bigotry.
Vote blue
Some change is coming in the racist gerrymandering in the southern states, just ruled illegal by the Supreme Court.
Orwell was right. "Who controls the present controls the past. Who controls the past controls the future."
Unless you on the negotiations table you’re in the menu
All power belongs to YHUH, all earthly kingdoms will fall...
It sure took media too long to start focusing on this criminal politician.
This gets my blood boiling. I can't believe that this is actually happening in this day and age.
It shouldn't be. It's a sad testament of how far and the low the Republican party has fallen. They have been given license to let their fear, bigotry, and hatred out. This is what happens when a political party stops running on policies and just runs on "culture war". All good honest conservatives, liberals, moderates, progressives, etc. need to make it clear we will not stand for this.
Hopefully after a significant enough defeat at the ballot box most will return to their senses. They are after all our fellow citizens. But until they can respect basic reality, not to mention the rights of others, they must be opposed.
Then you haven't been paying attention to what has always been there. This is not new. That Alex Wagner is claiming this is "coming back" is ignoring the fact it never went anywhere.
@@jessicamacallister9272 It's the relative power of competing world-views that waxes and wanes. Look at the brief shining (relatively) moment of "Reconstruction." Snuffed out politically by "Jim Crow." You are right: the evil is eternal. Alex is right: the power structure is breathing down our necks now. Note she asks, will they get away with the (tyranny)? Jelani says, could be.....
If anyone has old textbooks or historical analyses lying around, maintain them well and keep spreading the truth..
@@Cynna1065 This is *from* old textbooks.
The ultimate example of white privilege is being able to pass legislation to protect themselves from having to feel uncomfortable about their own history.
NAILED IT !!👈🎯🎯
Amen to that!
Tracy81258 Boom!
This is not about history. This is all about being able to continue to do something and never truly acknowledge why you are doing it.
@@DarkNJuju Read more please.
Am I the only person that feels like I'm screaming and no one can hear me? Do the people in Florida not realize or care that they are destroying their children's futures? They will know it when their kids can't get into a decent college or university.
I Hope Desantis regrets all his decisions when his kids go to college
@@mZsZ73 He'll just take over all the schools in Florida and his kids will graduate at the top of their class. As long as they stay in Florida they'll be fine. The rest of us need border patrol to make sure that they stay in Florida.
@@mZsZ73his children are not in the public school system….
It's mind boggling that Americans who claim to be all for freedoms and rights try to argue that slavery is somehow good for the enslaved. The act of enslavement itself is an inexcusable violation of a person, regardless of how well they are treated. I don't think any slavery apologists would find it appealing to be forced away somewhere far from their families and their homeland, and held there against their will, even if they will be served the best food in the world, get the best healthcare in the world, be treated as good as possible. Americans of all people should really understand that, especially Republicans who rather want to be free than to save their children from school shooters, and to save themselves and their loved ones from dying from covid.
They aren't even capable of being ashamed of this .
Yes, you get that incredulous look, like, how can you not see this is perfect. And all you can do is gape back and wonder what happened to that person’s soul.
@@Arulane That's not all that can be done, not by a longshot. Floridians who give a flip need to act. Start organizing,, start planning, and start lawyering up.
"They aren't even capable of being ashamed of this" - They wouldn't be ashamed of this even if they had the capability. They are proud of this, which is the truly scary part.
@@nomore6167 I see that too. He's trying to make it his own racist country and wants to fix the rest of it to be Taliban level Authoritarian. Send him home to police morality from there.
Who is "they"? Floridians are horrified by this.
Desantis is a disaster
He must have the Biden disaster virus. 🤣
@@thomasjohn6041
Look in your own backyard before you make ludicrous comments.
@@thomasjohn6041 Worse than that...he's got the wanna be like trump virus.
@@thomasjohn6041Another trump zombie with empty brain 😡
@@thomasjohn6041Nice how the simple minded can entertain themselves with their own lame tropes.
Ron DeSantis has embarrassed lifelong Floridians like me.
Well you got the rest of your life to come live in Arkansas
I'm happy to hear you see him for what he is. Thank you.
I join with you as a fellow Floridian. It has long passed the point of being a sick joke between my free thinking friends.
Then please do everything you can to get rid of him. He is horrible. He reminds me of Hitler.
VOTE THEM OUT!! FIGHT BACK!!
2:23
But surprisingly, the same slaves who had multiple jobs during slavery and perhaps the most qualified people to perform paid manual labor, were unable to find (or at least well paying and humane in the outlier cases) jobs during Reconstruction. It's almost as if these skills were not for their personal benefit, but only valued under a system of oppression that generated a profit for a select group of people. To chop that up to simple coincidence is insane.
THIS GENERATION WILL FIND OUT THE TRUTH AND WHEN THEY DO IT WILL NOT END WELL FOR THE PEOPLE WHO LIED TO THEM
Like the old saying goes, "Everything old is new again.", sadly, this even applies to racism and bigotry.
Only if people let it.
It's not as if it ever went away. Their renewed confidence just makes them more brazen.
Ah, but then history doesn't actually repeat, it rhymes.
@janew7008 the trumpsollini maga GOP is trying very hard to do so, playing ignorance with the food ignorance thrives on, hate and xenophobic fearmongering
Speak for yourself, this notion that slavery has never been taught in the past years is a lie . It may not be taught the MARXIST way , which is what Democrats want .
Thanks Ron for finally revealing what your battle against the woke really is: it's a battle against the truth!
He's a psychopath and must be stopped at all costs!!!
💯
Ron is the woke
I think the long term plan for him and his anti-woke crusade is to convince people things like civil rights are woke. I genuinely think if he had his way we'd return to jim crow
This!!!
This thinking is spreading to other areas of the country. In Oklahoma, our State Superintendent of Education want schools to teach the Tulsa RACE Riot was not about RACE. Go figure.
This is sick. This is why we are choosing not to have children. I won’t send a child to Florida public schools.
Teachers, educators, defy these laws. Don't obey them, go on strike!
They are HOPING they would strike then quit. They been training thousands of Filipinos to come here and replace them for cheap labor. Goog’it
@@8arrowsshare your sources instead
@@awesomness36 really? You want the link? Are ur fingers broke? I didn’t make it up. Go look it up.
@@8arrowsyou definitely made it up. I don’t believe that someone as anti immigration as RD would import teachers. Also, how the heck would that even work, they speak Tagalog there.
Sources seem to be largely in 2022. Broward hired 102 Filipino teachers in 2022, and is hiring more. Central Florida school district also imported Filipino teachers.
This is so very sad and shocking. Who would have ever thought the information age would have led to our country being governed by absolute morons? It's stupefying.
Totally drives me nuts too.
When you got people agreeing that rainbows exist due to a 24th century B.C.E. global flood, despite civilizations thriving at that time having no record of said natural disaster, disinformation like this is not unexpected.
And to pull the nation back to the C7th with regards to medicine and healthcare, and the -C17th regarding women’s healthcare rights and role.
I'm pretty sure all those kidnapped, enslaved Africans could have learned those "skills" just fine as free men and women.
One of my favorite character actors, now deceased, Reg Cathey (The Wire, House of Cards, Oz, etc.) said in an 2016 interview in The Guardian, "the world is being destroyed by psychopaths." He was referring to all the dark and corrupt forces that culminated in Trump being elected. His quote was actually the title of the article as it wasn't just about his career, but also our being in the world. So whether "absolute morons" or psychopaths we're in a bit of trouble. If we've learned anything it's that the law is very frail and can't seem to deal with either. In this case it may not save us.
Get kids out of Florida - now. Parents, throw out those lying bas**# or keep them at your peril. Lies are not truth.
OMG… how can these people look at themselves in the mirror? How can this be allowed in a free country?
People need to get out and vote.
More specifically, people need to get out and *vote out* these people. And do so at every election, from local school board on up.
People are getting out and voting in Florida, and they're voting republican. Voter turnout isn't the problem. A nation that believes socialism is a bad word is the problem
We did a year ago, it wasn't enough.
And be ALLOWED to vote, no more sly tactics which we know white Republicans use.
Vote blue!
Yale should rescend DeSantis' college degree.
Yes, DeSantis creates his own narrative of history.
Because Yale is so much better...oh wait.
Someone should see about Clarence Thomas' as well.
Harvard too!!!
@@jocelynlopez6858 Oh because they aren’t racist. Oh wait. Remind me why W.E.B. Dubois was denied entry?
Deathsantis is the worst thing to happen to Florida (along with Rick Scott/voldemort).
Black Parents NEED to teach our children the Truth!
Every one needs to teach their children the correct history. This is project 2025 . I am disgusted beyond belief. Unfortunately florida is largely republican the democrats just dont have the same numbers. I will keep voting for truth
As someone with a history degree, I feel sick. This is disgusting and immoral. I would never tell a student this BS. I’d rather never teach again, than teach these lies.
I’m studying for mine (technically I’m taking taking classes for my other major and my minor this semester) and I fear that anything I’ve learned can be tucked under the table because of people, like DeSanctimonious, in power.
You should ask for a refund on your indoctrination...
@@billthecat22comments like this ffs
@@billthecat22imagine being this dumb
@@billthecat22that's right. Everybody who doesn't agree with you, especially people who went to college, have been indoctrinated. Your natural biases are all correct! Everything you already believed is true, and you don't need to change at all! How wonderful it must be to be you, the person who is just intuitively right about everything without needing to do any research or learn anything!
Back in the 1960's a Jr. High history teacher told us the civil war wasn't about slavery, it was economic. I raised my hand and asked "Don't you mean the economics of slavery"? He sent me to the principal's office.
Great question you put to him. That's what it was.
Read the "Cornerstone Speech" by A.H. Stephens who was the vice president of the Confederate States from 1861 to 1865, and was elected as the 50th governor of Georgia in 1882.
This speech makes it very clear that the secession of the states & the Civil War was about preserving slavery. Stephens said that the American Constitution was wrong by asserting that all men were created equal & that slavery should eventually disappear. The Confederate Constitution confirmed the "inequality" of Africans and the moral, religious & scientific right of their superiors to enslave them.
Good for you! If that happened today, that ignorant teacher would be held accountable.
@@Herschel1738 I believe slavery continued under the guise of "trade schools, training, " etc. There is no changing white nationalists as DeathSantis, instead we have to resist every day this form of fascist racism.
Sounds about right. Even back then, you were too smart to go for that teacher lies.
Please, please don't ever let this come to fruition in any other state or anywhere in the world. Please let it be overturned in Florida. The truth is the truth and it needs to be taught as such. How can anyone ever believe that slavery benefited black people? 😢 I feel like I'm living in the Twilight Zone. 😭
This is the same State that feed our children to the crocodile 🐊. 😢
It makes me ashamed to be a Floridian. You CAN NOT unwrite was has already transpired in the history of the United States.
Trying to have ignorant generations in the future to the truth about Black History.
Unfortunately most has been rewritten since 2020 ….. definitions of words, genetics, concept of science
Rewriting history began way back. We're talking after Ancient Egypt was discovered to be ruled and built by the Kemet Pharaohs. It's not possible Africans could build such a significant and powerful civilization with advanced knowledge of the constellations and advanced medicine. No way, huh
DeSantis is evil, he's claiming to know black history, but he knows but doing horrible things to innocent black people, little does he know he will never, never, ever be president, he has no knowledge to be anything but the IMMIGRANT that he is, he could be a RUNAWAY IMMIGRANT!!! 🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃
When your head is as big as D's it seems as if he has some KNOWLEDGE, but no his head is full of EVIL HOT AIR.🗑️
Desantis keeps getting more deranged.
It's the fascist way..
Desperation and time, is closing in on him. He sees his power is fleeting.
Never underestimate the ability of the racist to justify his/her own racism.
This should not be happening, no matter what DeSantis says on education , teachers should get together and just walk out on him. History must be told as it is, no one should be allowed to change the content of our history. The only thing we should be doing is to set guidelines so it never happens again. Slaves have never forgotten , and never learned from it, times have changed to a point but we need to move on forbidding any action that is taken to minimize what has happened against humanity, black or white, red or yellow, color has nothing to do with it, EVERY HUMAN DESERVES RESPECT, AND THEIR HISTORY MUST BE UNTOUCHED SO OUR CHILDREN NEVER DARE TO REPEAT THIS HORROR.
OMG dear lord please don't let this happen! Floridians don't let this happen! NAACP don't let this happen! Federal Government don't let this happen! Black Americans don't let this happen! "Live Free or Die!"
It will.
This is now on Fl to get rid of him. You all voted him in. Stand up to him, for gods sake!
@@Arulane Not all of us voted him in, the gerrymandering is horrible here. Plus the Latino population in bombarded with misinformation. Do you really think Cubans who left Cuba to flee communism want dictators running this country? Yet, S.Florida some how turned red after many years of voting blue. They poured millions into false ads scaring them into voting red.
Not just black Americans. There are quite a few white people who are descendants of slaves who will gladly stand shoulder to shoulder in this fight.
Can you share this?
Truly, the more I find out about slavery, the more I am shocked. I’m a west coast Canadian. Second generation. My history doesn’t include anything with slavery. As I hear these stories I am shocked. It makes the white washing of the history even more egregious.
Have you seen the right wing videos trying to get people to think that the problem has been coming from the left? Thomas Sowell's The Hidden Facts of Slavery or Never taught in schools. That information has always been available until now. It is only now the there are Book bans.
I wish more ppl like you could speak up like this. Thank you for having empathy ❤
Iirc one of the west coast indigenous peoples yall genocided had a bit of a slave trafficking empire in the far past times. So kinda
Did Harper include Black history when he destroyed Canadian archives?
Read Edward Baptist's "The Half Has Never Been Told" (2014). Not easy reading but explains the cruelty of southern slavery, and its key role in America's economic dominance.
GOP rather your kid to hold guns more than let them to hold books. That is signature of GOP today
Then get those guns, and enough of them to defend the books.
"GOP rather your kid to hold guns more than let them to hold books" - There's a reason I call it the Guns Over People party.
What an excellent comment. On point 🔥.
Totally agree with you 💯
They want you to pick up tools instead of books so you work hard but won’t learn anything. And possibly terrorize people with their unhinged conspiracies that favor white supremacy…..so there’s that.
This is disgusting. The only even acceptable way I could think of to answer the benefit question would be if they were trained to be a smith and were loaned out to other plantations and could save up money to escape slavery by buying out their own contracts and the contracts of their families.
That would be the only way that I could see handling it. It's clearly meant to sublimate and trick students into minimizing the terrible evils of slavery.
How can the U.S. Education department even allow these lies to be taught to Americans.
Can parents not sue because their children are being denied a proper education? I'd be *raging* if my child was not given a broad, accurate and unbowdlerised knowledge of history.
Floridians need to make their own liberal "moms for liberty" group to stop this garbage.
Yes, of course. Let the lawsuits begin!
They all drink from the same well 🤦🏽♀️🤮
Floridian parents gave full loyalty when he signed free lunch for all public school students. They traded the quality of the future for their children to get a free lunch today. Poverty has a price.
White washing history has been happening since the beginning of public education.
Shameful. I left teaching in Florida for several reasons. In fact, left the state. This is horrible and I feel for the children caught up in this revisionist history. I am ashamed of my former home state.
You did the right thing--congrats on getting out of that neo-confederate state. Blue states need good teachers.
You should be ashamed, teaching children to be either a victim or an oppressor, Democrats, the left are teaching a MARXIST agenda. Patrice colours, co founder of BLM has said openly she is a devout MARXIST. And you support this? Shame on you 😕
@@blondhairblackstrat - All states need good teachers. That the republicans answer to "more educated people lean liberal" is to stop the education.
I am glad you left teaching. You are a system NPC.
When Desantis was asked about this issue he stepped as far away from it as possible "I wasnt part of that decision, I am not responsible" BS he has set the tone and trajectory of the state and pushed Republican lawmakers to do his bidding with all these ridiculous bills and now this.
He has no clue how to actually lead!!
The anger is boiling up and will burn them all come election time!
THE DISTURBING MOMENT: Learning that DeSantis graduated from Yale with a degree in history! Wow. Where are his peers from Yale on this issue? That's the craziest part of it all -
Enslaved Africans ALREADY had the skills - that’s WHY they were enslaved to take advantage of their skills for unpaid labor. What an embarrassment and shame that the residents of Florida are allowing this to happen.
Eeh no, enslaved Africans were enslaved by other African tribes because they were weak and easy to exploit. Then Africans sold them to Europeans or Arabs, who in turn used them for labor. You really think working in a mine quarry requires skill ?
True. Before they were forcibly brought to this country, they were living their lives in Africa where they developed many manual skills, just like all societies throughout history.
No one is allowing it. There were many people who spoke against it. The DOE is appointed. We did not choose this.
@@trulytrey3645 A couple of years ago the people of Florida overwhelmingly voted to have prisoners/ex prisoners who served their sentences, have their voting rights restored.
RDS altered what was voted into law by the Floridians to say these people had to pay for their crimes (is that not one of the reasons for the prison sentence?). He also had many of these same people arrested when they exercised their newly restored voting rights, saying they were doing something illegal. A lot of these cases were conveniently dropped after the last election cycle.
A lot of what he is doing know is not even voted on by the people of Florida.
This law is basically for teaching students that a person who is kidnapped and tortured and held against their will got some kind of benefit from it. They wouldn't think that modern day human trafficking victims "benefit" from the crimes committed against them yet both are victims of horrific crimes. Just because one used to be legal in some states doesn't make it somehow a "benefit " to the victims.
So very aptly put. Thank you for posting.
It's part of continuing to dehumanize our ancestors.
Because that mindset is rooted in anti blackness; if they didn't see is as inferior and unworthy, we wouldn't be 3x likely to die giving birth or more likely to experience police brutality. They are projecting their own internalized beliefs and biases by refusing to acknowledge racism let alone their own racism.
They do though. It’s why they treat victims of trafficking like they’re criminals and make such harsh laws and movements against immigrants. They think they’re duping the system somehow.
Anything to get rid of the guilt. I just saw a video about "white slavery". I thought people knew that people around the world have experienced slavery. But that's not the point. My reason for mentioning this is they instantly went from "wow, there were white slaves?" To "Wow, why do black people make such a big deal about it? Why can't they get over it like everyone else?" Conveniently ignoring the differences and everything that happened after "emancipation'.
I will NEVER visit or patronize Florida
So REFRESHING to hear from an educated man on the truth and importance of America’s HISTORY😄🙌🏼💙🇺🇸
If there were ever a case for the Universalization of Public Education, Ron DeSantis sure is making it for us 🤦🏽
But he graduated from Yale University! Who did he sleep with to get in and/or graduate?
As someone who was in high school (grad. 1970) "universalization" could mean uniform censored propaganda! (My "civics" was all about evil Commies, whatever.) How about the opposite? There is so much still being learned about the past. We still had "home economics" in junior high, and that was (slave) wives skills. But not African: just female. Woman human enough to vote; 1920: 50 years after male African descendants. Don't "universalize!" We need to keep learning.
Agreed. DeSantis is not making Florida more free, he is making it more him! Vile, narrow, and fascist!
@@shawnnewell4541 He majored in History. He must have focused on how Hitler did it. He knows exactly what he's doing.
@@marybrown7203 Unfortunately, he learned the wrong lessons from history.
When I was stationed in Japan years ago it baffled me how so many people knew NOTHING about their history with regards to war. Nothing about what they did to the Koreans, the Chinese, the Filipinos, and so on, nothing about the unspeakable horrors they perpetrated on millions of defenseless people. The Hiroshima memorial museum mentions the attack on Pearl Harbor once in a tiny near unnoticeable sign that said, Japan was THRUST into the war in the Pacific after the attack on Pearl Harbor....Didn't even mention they're the ones that did it or that they did the "thrusting"! It was explained to me that they are embarrassed, and out of some perception honor they don't talk about it. Conservatives are trying to achieve the same goal here in America in a somehow more pernicious and nakedly racist way, rather than confront our history and try to move past it what they are saying is, "we are ok with what happened, so who cares? It doesn't suit the narrative I have been lying to my kids about". They want to feel better about the past because they wish things were that way now.
The way WW2 history amounts to little more than our soldiers went on extensive hiking and beach holidays in the Pacific until those nasty Americans nuked two of our cities.
This isn't conservative. It's downright backwards.
@@c.eb.1216 Yes it is conservatives who seek to keep things exactly as they were when 'America' was white.
I mean we wrote their constitution so we probably had our hand in deleting that part of history. We did benefit from the destabilization of all those countries from free labor to essentially making Korea a country in our image. Also you were part of an armed force in a country not your own not too different imo
It was explained to me some years ago by an elderly Japanese supplier, that they see WW2 as a great stain on their nation.
Like the German population too, many ordinary Japanese were lied to by their politicians.
The Germans also committed atrocities, as did the Russians who were supposed to be on the side of the Allies.
Even today, most Russians are told that WW2 was the Great Patriotic War defeating Germany. The participation and sacrifices made by the Allies to give Russia a fighting chance is rarely acknowledged.
You must remember these were well educated people engaging in such acts. Imagine the cruel acts of the uneducated who were given unchecked power.
I really wanted to hear professor Cobb’s take on this matter. He could barely get words in edgewise.
Its crazy...kids will read Floridas textbooks then access the internet and find out their educators are feeding them BS
Exactly!
True!
Yeah, they already are like enough. Kids will just go on TikTok or other apps, and find out that this is all BS.
It’s not the teachers it’s someone like Desatan who don’t want children to be taught our history good or bad
That's assuming they make their way to legitimate history sources. The madness that FL Bd of Education is advocating also exists on the internet...
This is beyond comprehension. That a group of people would see this as acceptable is akin to mass insanity.
@PsychoKitee1 this mass insanity includes 71M Americans
@saramill2097 Is English your second language?
@saramill2097 what are you babbling about magat?
If mass insanity is mass hatred, then you are right. But think these white politicians are criminal, not crazy, and fully culpable for their crimes.
That's what cults represent: mass insanity.
The first person fired over this will sue and the state of Florida will leave that district hanging and the school district will have to pay.
I lived in Florida during the mid-50’s and this mindset was an everyday philosophy. Here we are in the 21st. century and that thought is still prevalent.
I can't believe we have to have this conversation. Desantis is a reckless politician, and a stain (like Trump) on our democracy.
I actually genuinly despise comparing things to the Holocaust, because it's often done by ignorant pos who want to sound dramatic while proving their own stupidity. But in this case, the echos are there and I am strongly reminded of Patton forcing germans from the near by village to walk through the camp and really look at it, because there was no way they didn't know; and any ignorance they claimed, was from willfully looking the other way while people screamed and died next to them.
@@fleurpouvior2967why compare demonic spirits?
@@fleurpouvior2967 But remember Hitler was inspired by the way the US enslaved Blacks. The only difference in the Holocaust is that Hitler killed more people. But transporting Blacks from Africa is how roughly a million souls were murdered. And an additional half million to a million died after years of brutality! And they would’ve killed them sooner, but they preferred to work Blacks to death to get as much out of them as possible, and they did. And so much has been hidden about the horrors of slavery in the US, therefore, people love to downplay what Blacks have suffered in this country, and that plot against truth has been very successful! But the truth cannot be hidden forever!
@@marjorjorietillman856 Hitler was actually inspired by how the U.S. committed genocide on the Indigenous People. But I see the confusion, the U.S. Government has done some of the most horrific acts in the last few centuries
I think DeSantis could be even worse than Trump.
In Canada this would be a hate crime.
Truly? That's amazing.
I don't know about that. It's a matter of degrees, but here in Alberta we went through this same fight over a regressive curriculum change. It's not to the same degree by any means , but honestly I'm shocked by the similarities to this Florida curriculum document
“That we all know now” seems like a vast overstatement, considering 😑😫
All history needs to be taught and learned from.. The good, bad , and ugly. If you are offended by some of the history learn from it. Never repeat it.
This is stunning and frightening.
Yes, and the reds want it to go nationally too. Sure, rewrite history and put your white spin on everything so you feel better about living in the south.
This is deliberate. He knows what he is doing and why. He wants perfect little Ronnie-minis running around, who all think like him. He is a wannabe fascist on his way to making his dream come true. He is Trump with brains and still no soul.
Imagine being a descendant of slaves in Florida, being told in school that your relatives were lazy indolents, who did not appreciate the 'benefits' of their enslavement. Now imagine a boot, stamping on a human face, forever. This is Florida in the 21st century.
I am disgusted by DeSantis, but I’ve had a front row seat in Tallahassee. Wanting him out of the Governor’s Office, but praying he never caught fire as a Presidential candidate. He has 2 more years, before he is term limited out of Tallahassee, Florida.
Expect him in the Senate or the House next. He gerrymandered the state to make it happen
Thats why he is having his own guards that when his time up he stay in power
"He has 2 more years, before he is term limited out of Tallahassee, Florida" - Is that just a state law or is it part of the Florida Constitution? Either way, I wouldn't put it past the Florida legislature to change that to allow him to remain for as long as he wants. As for catching fire, if I were religious, I'd be praying that he does catch fire, literally.
It's amazing how much damage one governor could do since 2019. Human rights, education, health, cost of living, environment - he's Mr. Disaster in every department.
If he fails to be nominated, I would expect him to look to the US Senate as his next destination.
Middle schoolers are a lot smarter than Ronald realizes ,, can't really say the same for his policies ,,
so sad that this is actually happening
Lies and n pushing denial on kids . Literally erasing history. We must - must Vote 💙💙💙 and take them to court on this action
I agree about taking them to court, they're conditioning our kids to accept slavery as a good thing, which in the end will devastate the poor and give corporations total control of our country.
In the information age, deleting history won't be as easy as DeeSantis thinks.
Voting will not change those facts. Most public schools have not been allowed to teach this history by both parties.
@@BunnyLang Corporations already control this Country.
@@diannestephen-rocco2156 I know, but by taking this type of move, they are grinding in.
This is truly appalling. I was never in Yale in fact I barely got to graduate high school, but I know wrong when I see it, and this is wrong. As a woman who was born in the 50s, I ask in all sincerity, what is wrong with the people of Florida that they tolerate this?
The sad part is that it's not just them. There's a reason why DeeSantis is number 2 on the Republican roster.
Well a lot of them are not allowed to vote, still ... even the ones who the voters said they wanted to be able to vote since Ron refused to allow them to. But yeah, I'm wondering the same thing. How did he get reelected with all the stuff he pulled in his first term.
I am 72 . And I am so disgusted with people who can not look at people and see people . They do not see themselves as different color than someone else . They see them only as different color religion , therefore not a person . That seems to make it right to take away rights . And persecute what they don't like . But those persons can not give you , me , or anyone else , a rational reason for their own behavior . So we as old people have got to keep talking about what history and logic we know and have .
@@katherinecrossman8521 I'm 12 years younger than you and my son was about 18 when he called out my naivete 5 years ago for thinking these things were on the way out. This younger generation has seen things regress more than progress as they have been growing aware of the world around them. He votes and has voted in every election since. So far his vote hasn't made much difference on a larger scale, but it has in the smaller elections locally. The scale will tip soon I hope.
DeSantis gives free lunch to all public school system children which won him loyalty from many Florida parents. Floridians traded their children's future for lunch.
This is why many teachers are quitting teaching in Florida and there's a dearth of teachers, so DeSatan has passed a new law allowed ex-military to teach in school with NO bachelor's degree or teacher training of any kind. And what do you think they will be teaching? God save us all.
This is so sicking😢
Professor Katie Cannon, in her course,"Codes of Ethics and the Slave Narratives," gave me the research task of delving into the history of slavery in Florida. My maternal family was deeply engrossed in this history. To this very day, it still poisons the intellectual well of thinking and believing.
Florida was among the most brutal of the slave states. My great grandfather's gravestone:
"A lover of Christ and a friend to his fellow man: KKK" speaks to the Florida era. This man considered himself a good Christian, building 3 Baptist churches in and around the Palatka area. He proudly said, "I give my Darkies a day of rest, just like my other animals."
That is the fetid racist ground of Florida.
😲 WOW!
Good Christian = magically stupid.
Holy crap. How awful. 😳
Take heart; Disney is in the mix. Let's see how Don Ron stacks up against Mickey in the Polls. Disney can probably just buy the Governor's chair and fill it with a much more cooperative and sane candidate. 🎉
I grew up in South Florida and did not know there was slavery in the state until I was almost 30 and an older college student. My part of Florida was more Yankee and Melting Pot than Deep South, and I started school just as the desegregation began, but even I knew that racism was still a thing with the old folks - although I thought it was going away. Wow, was I wrong! Just goes to show that without progress everything regresses.
If they truly believed that then they wouldn't be so threatened by black people. Seems more like they were trying to convince themselves of something they knew deep down was false.
Yup! Blind Fear,Envy, Jealousy,Crazy And Hatred For Different Human Beings Is One Helluva Drug.
This is sick to the absolute degree!
How African Americans, Latinos and asians can vote Republican is simply beyond me!
Me either. They are the very example Stockholm syndrome. Thomas Sowell did not support the civil rights movement.
propaganda and misinformation works especially well for the poor and uneducated. That's why these groups tend to be more religious or "superstitious" if you like.
I wonder why Africans in America keep voting for the same ineffectual Democrats with false promises over and over again. The first time is hope, but the second time is naiveté....like with Biden/Harris. Blacks would be making an error in supporting Biden a second time....and making a larger error in supporting Trump (or whoever the Republican candidate will be). Let them fight it out amongst themselves and see how that goes. The Democrats will see that they can not secure the Presidency without the Black vote. Then, come next election, they will listen to their constituents. Because they sure as h*ll absolutely not listening now.
Word.
Plus women, of all races.
@@michaelandrews4783 And you are the smart ones??? I guess you are as smart as your president, and act similarly around kids. I never thought I'd see the day when the US was lead by a obviously corrupt and senile kiddy sniffer.
You can't erase history, it's like closing your eyes and pretending it never happened .
It literally did not happen like that, and the 1940's sob stories did not happen at all.
They can erase history..that's their goal
Desperately burying guilt .
Holy crap! No! This has got to end, be stopped. Vote out these creeps. Speak up when the cultists excuse or encourage this bs.
I just could not be a teacher in Florida and be required to tell these types of outright lies!
you are maybe not white enough!
Lie you cation
And there will be plenty of Black " teachers" who will " go along to get ALONG ".
Exactly 💯
I think I may know 2 people that are like that. One of them used to own a church and would have the congregation stand up and recite the pledge of allegiance before church services. Yes and they were black trying to prove something. I would go to the bathroom and wait till it was over and then come back out to my seat.
Now I nolonger go to church since I came into the truth. The Most High Yah is my fortress not the Anti Christian that some of us been taught to be live in. You know that picture and image they taught us to believe in.
Any black athlete who is being recruited to attend any Florida colleges should show them the middle finger.
Or accept the opposite for an education, be grateful, & contribute to society
@@Joseph-lr3lt
Accept it like you clowns never accepted the FACT that Cheeto Jesus lost the election? Nahhh.... we'll pass. There are 50 other states, plus all of the HBCU's that offer not only a better level of education, but a education that is founded in THE TRUTH, regardless of how you SNOWFLAKES feel about what your ancestors did. 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
@@Joseph-lr3ltAlready contributed. Thats why you have a nation.
This is purposful evil!
Oh my God, I know what's happening but I just feel like it's something out of some horrible science fiction movie or nightmare.
Justifying Slavery
suggests rationale for reinstituting slavery.
There are accounts on TICTOK that speak of the virtues of slavery.
@@DarkNJujudoes that make it true!?!???.?
Maybe that's their point?