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You are a Legend... I subbed, this technique makes any track/mix sound more towards what we hear on the radio! Thank you for the info. Very kind of you to share this!
That's awesome, I feel like it helps glue my bass / guitars together to have a bit more of the bass signal on the sides along with the hard panned guitars. Cheers for sharing!
Just been browsing for stereo imaging in mixing and found your video. Even tough I am far away from heavy sounds, but what you teach here is mind blowing. I am sure this can be applied to my type of music and changes the dynamics of a song and pushes it way ahead. Thanks for this tutorial
Gold right here. I was using a technique by Andy Wallace, where he has a bus with a Symphonic Chorus (in his case hardware, in my case a Valhalla plugin) to spread the bass to the sides, but this technique is similar and so much better. Thank you. Really gave my mix the final professional touch it needed. Thank you much man.
A width control in a Reverb is literally a little stereo widening plugin. I get it basically you are making a Reverb send with a HP on it and sending the Bass to it (this is how it would be worded using Reaper, which is what I use) . My point is you could add a widener to this Bus/Send and it would do the same thing when if the Reverb used has no extra widening in it (some dont). This is a way to do it for people who only have basic verb plugins/verbs without wideners built in. I would argue that this is actually better because you get even more control, although CPU usage may be an issue (BUS/Send HP filter> Reverb > Widener)
I discovered this trick some time ago. Most mix tips video's says just pan it hard but I never got it really wide with just pan. This is the trick to get your instruments wide.
Quick question, what are your thoughts on sending certain panned mono tracks to the widener? For instance if you were sending a mono track that is panned to the left, would you pan the send to that position or would you just leave it defaulted to the center? Thanks bud 👍🏻
That’s just something I wrote a while back for another YT video. one of these days I’ll have to finish it because I’ve had a lot of people asking about it. Thanks!
Second question: StudioOneArtist does not support the outside VTS plugings, is there any pluggin in StudioOne Artist that can give an effect of Ozone Imager2 (widening the sound, phase)? First question: StudioOne Artist, the volume of an acoustic guitar recording through microphone is very low (compared to previously recorded tracks of acoustic guitars with pickups), the knob on interface is at the maximum, tracks out level -12db, the amplitude of the signal wave is low to normal, still the sound is hardly hearable even when i pop up the buss' level to +4db. Why? What can i do?
beware when manipulating side you can create phase issues that were not there to start. phase cancellations are the biggest/hardest problem to deal with imo
@@JeremyFoxMusic okay cool:) second question would be since im doin mostly trailer music I would love to use this technique on my brass and strings. do I have to load them in mono for this to work?
The same as if you weren’t using this trick. If the source signal is mono, that will come through as it normally would but without the added side content that you would hear in stereo. Give it a try, you’ll see what I mean.
@@JeremyFoxMusic just opened my DAW and gave it a try... really awesome :) thank you very much for sharing it :) the low end is usually a pain in the azz for real
@@JeremyFoxMusic dude thanks for your reply. I'm so glad I came across your page. I was looking for different methods on how to make my mixes wider and just different techniques in general. Cheers dude !!!!
Yes, in general (meaning don't do this automatically), there are a lot of sources that talk about "modern width" which allegedly means narrow bass and wider as you progress upwards across the spectrum. But this is complete bullshit. All you have to do is reference any number of modern heavy tracks and you will quickly find that many modern hard rock and metal albums have wide low end. Not sub-bass, but low end. I can think of a handful of very commercial reference tracks that fall into this category. Many of these tracks are wider around 100Hz-300hz than they are at 2k-4k. Again - not always a rule, as nothing in mixing should be. But I find that this is a thing that heavy music producers/engineers are doing. And I find personally find it to be an aesthetic that I personally like.
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Unbelievable.
Finally a tutorial that REALLY benefitted my mixes!!!
Dude! Thank you!
Glad I watched this despite being metal. I write funk/disco and this type of space is VERY important.. great tip, gonna try it tonight.
Best trick of the Year ! Thanks Jeremy you rock !
You are a Legend... I subbed, this technique makes any track/mix sound more towards what we hear on the radio! Thank you for the info. Very kind of you to share this!
That's awesome, I feel like it helps glue my bass / guitars together to have a bit more of the bass signal on the sides along with the hard panned guitars. Cheers for sharing!
I agree. I also notice that it helps bring out more of the bass in the mix without having to bring up the volume.
Just been browsing for stereo imaging in mixing and found your video. Even tough I am far away from heavy sounds, but what you teach here is mind blowing. I am sure this can be applied to my type of music and changes the dynamics of a song and pushes it way ahead. Thanks for this tutorial
Awesome, thanks!
Gold right here. I was using a technique by Andy Wallace, where he has a bus with a Symphonic Chorus (in his case hardware, in my case a Valhalla plugin) to spread the bass to the sides, but this technique is similar and so much better. Thank you. Really gave my mix the final professional touch it needed. Thank you much man.
Man I have to tell You. I've been searching for that technique for so long, tryin to recreate professional mixes. Thank You for this, great channel :)
Glad I could help! 🤘
A width control in a Reverb is literally a little stereo widening plugin. I get it basically you are making a Reverb send with a HP on it and sending the Bass to it (this is how it would be worded using Reaper, which is what I use) . My point is you could add a widener to this Bus/Send and it would do the same thing when if the Reverb used has no extra widening in it (some dont). This is a way to do it for people who only have basic verb plugins/verbs without wideners built in.
I would argue that this is actually better because you get even more control, although CPU usage may be an issue (BUS/Send HP filter> Reverb > Widener)
First time watching your videos, but very informative without the fluff thank you
Thank you!!!
You bet!
That mix is ripping my face off, savage and huge, all thumbs up
It's above all surely crazy how yours basses lacks low mids !
Thanks Jeremy, I'm going to try this one stuff I'm working on.
Very informative and straightforward.. you actually explained what the moves you were making were made for 👍🏽😎 thanks for this video
I discovered this trick some time ago. Most mix tips video's says just pan it hard but I never got it really wide with just pan. This is the trick to get your instruments wide.
Thanks for sharing your experience and confirming this trick does in-fact work! 🤘
Duuuude, I noticed bass guitars sounded wide in mixes but couldn't figure out how they did it. I tried this and think it worked pretty well. Thanks!
I just tried it on one of my mixes .... be f****d! Love it. Cheers mate.
Haha, nice! 🤘
Thanks for this excellent tutorial Jeremy! I'm going to try this right away.
Ahhh this makes sense! I always thought my bass sounded so small compared to other mixes, definitely gonna give this a go. Great tip!
This is one of those priceless videos! ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Subscribed 🙌
it's really nice trick!!! thank you jeremy~~~
Thank you for bestowing knowledge upon us
Hey man, Really love this technique! Curious if you could either point me in the direction of where to get that closet IR you're using?
Ha..., I almost figured out this technique, but what I didn't use was the channel bus and the equalizer. 🤘🤘🤘
Nice. Glad this was helpful!
Im looking forward to learn some more...
Nice work
Holy shit this is an under rated video
woah, dude thats mind blowing
Haha, it’s a good one.
Cool!!
Excellent! new suscriber lml
Nice! Thank you man
Awesome video! Thank you Jeremy
You bet! Thanks for watching! 🤘
I'd be interested on your thoughts on the new I prevail self-destruction mix. Sounds pretty incredible.... Wonder what their approach was?
just an awesome technique 😮😮
Thank you so much
Can’t wait to give this a try. 🔥🔥🔥
Let me know how it turns out for you! 🤘
Quick question, what are your thoughts on sending certain panned mono tracks to the widener? For instance if you were sending a mono track that is panned to the left, would you pan the send to that position or would you just leave it defaulted to the center? Thanks bud 👍🏻
pure gold
What song in intro? Sounds absolutely epic🔥
That’s just something I wrote a while back for another YT video. one of these days I’ll have to finish it because I’ve had a lot of people asking about it. Thanks!
Second question: StudioOneArtist does not support the outside VTS plugings, is there any pluggin in StudioOne Artist that can give an effect of Ozone Imager2 (widening the sound, phase)?
First question: StudioOne Artist, the volume of an acoustic guitar recording through microphone is very low (compared to previously recorded tracks of acoustic guitars with pickups), the knob on interface is at the maximum, tracks out level -12db, the amplitude of the signal wave is low to normal, still the sound is hardly hearable even when i pop up the buss' level to +4db. Why? What can i do?
Excellent!
Like said in the Discord Channel! Great thx man!
I’m glad you found this trick useful! 🤘
Mind Blown!!! Sub'd!!! 🤘🏻🤘🏻
Tone cloning with an EQ MATCH would also be an option.
beware when manipulating side you can create phase issues that were not there to start. phase cancellations are the biggest/hardest problem to deal with imo
super awesome video mate! does this also work with stock logic eq?
Absolutely. You don’t need any special EQ. A standard high-pass would work also.
@@JeremyFoxMusic okay cool:) second question would be since im doin mostly trailer music I would love to use this technique on my brass and strings. do I have to load them in mono for this to work?
It should work on mono or stereo sources.
Damn this is amazing!
I’m glad you like it! Such a simple trick with a massive effect on the mix. Thanks for watching. 🤘
Highpass 140 hz goes to bus add stereo widening plugin + add reverb (little) = ready to go
didn't tried it yet... though i am really curious about how this is working for mono compatibility :P
The same as if you weren’t using this trick. If the source signal is mono, that will come through as it normally would but without the added side content that you would hear in stereo. Give it a try, you’ll see what I mean.
@@JeremyFoxMusic just opened my DAW and gave it a try... really awesome :) thank you very much for sharing it :) the low end is usually a pain in the azz for real
The expanding feature is the same that you find on izotope ??
It is not. That will provide the same results that I showed with the stereo expander plugin in this video. It’s a totally different sound/result.
Nice...
what's the title of the song in the intro?
It doesn’t have a name. It’s just something I wrote a while back.
Sometimes you just need someone to show you with confidence . . .
Dude will this work for synthwave?
It should work anywhere you want to apply this sort of stereo imaging.
@@JeremyFoxMusic dude thanks for your reply. I'm so glad I came across your page. I was looking for different methods on how to make my mixes wider and just different techniques in general. Cheers dude !!!!
Yes, in general (meaning don't do this automatically), there are a lot of sources that talk about "modern width" which allegedly means narrow bass and wider as you progress upwards across the spectrum. But this is complete bullshit. All you have to do is reference any number of modern heavy tracks and you will quickly find that many modern hard rock and metal albums have wide low end. Not sub-bass, but low end. I can think of a handful of very commercial reference tracks that fall into this category. Many of these tracks are wider around 100Hz-300hz than they are at 2k-4k. Again - not always a rule, as nothing in mixing should be. But I find that this is a thing that heavy music producers/engineers are doing. And I find personally find it to be an aesthetic that I personally like.
What happens when u need to master for vinyl. Do u have to turn off these stereo widening effects?