The instructor is very good. He explains the principles well and puts the scenarios in the context of real life situations. The student will surely master that POS recovery with his help. 😄
Personally I would have trim the plane to hands off at 75kts then bring in full power the plane will then climb at the trim speed without any pressure of the yolk. Then pull back firm until it stalls, just drop the nose don't touch the power stop the wing drop with rudder. She it trying to pull back with more force that she would have in a normal TO that was trim for TO speed. I did like the turn around and and stall the plane.
she is only learning you know, every student does that because its an instinctive reaction and Im sure if you took flying lessons, you would have made same mistake
This comment is a bit late, but I needed to comment here. This is absolutely phenomenal instruction. I'm a low-ish time instructor, and this guy is what I strive to be. Encouraging, insightful, and extremely patient and calm. I applaud this man, and hope this student understands how lucky she is.
This instructor is REALLY good. My mother used to teach Gliding (Sail Plane flying) and she had the same temperament and style. Very calm with the students (as I was told many years later) helped them understand that the most important thing was to understand what the craft was doing and how to react to the situation calmly but quickly while assessing multiple conditions. If I ever took up power flying, I would want this guy to be my instructor. He explains, so well and is very non judging through the learning curve.
Going thru this right now. It's interesting how you can tell yourself 100 times to "Control the yaw with your feet", the moment it happens, your first reaction as an inexperienced pilot is to "recover with ailerons". You're so used to driving cars. Damn you cars... 😂. Great job Student and Instructor.
I really like this guy's teaching style but I can't say I agree that power idle is a good reflex to build for every power on stall. If you aren't in a spin, seems like you risk making matters worse by killing the power.
Holy crap my pants....I just did my first hour of flight yesterday and RUclips in its algorithm glory, brought me to this. My only reassurance is that the instructor went up there with her to do this.
Great instruction. I’d like to see her eyes outside during the setup and entry to the maneuver a lot more than is evident from the video - she’s staring hard at those instruments a she’s slowing the plane. The real world distraction stuff is great.
This was honestly very helpful and amazing, I find everything coming natural to me except letting loose and telling my plane to stall. The single video showing exactly what I've hit and how to recover from it has been nothing short of instrumental in my path going forward as a pilot. Thank you so much for posting this video!
"I would never do that".... Well, wait until you're solo on a busy traffic with 8 other acft, radio coordination to perform, thermals to fight and all sort of other distractions...
I am so happy to see such a amazing training.He is amazing and also Ican feel that he loves his job!!!He is not the only amazing person u also doing great job.U don’t give up to try one more and more to learn it very well even though u don’t like the feeling of the power on stall.Wish u the best luck for your training!!!
Very good instructions, as a gliderpilot we fly near stall wery often. Mushing, stall and spinn are likely to happen if you get distracted. Setting the scenarios in contekst was wery clever and should be done more often by instructors 👍
I would never do this as she's doing it lol I love this video! "Let go of your brother as she's in the climb out hahaa love this video a lot! Stalls are my one last maneuver to really get watching this stalls made me feel better thank you!
Very surprised that someone “post-solo” doesn’t know their numbers. Also not knowing how to control a power on stall while flying solo is a recipe for disaster.
I am a 7 hour student pilot and I the C-152 was up for it's 100 hour, so me and my CFI decided to Piper. The V speeds are all different, and now having to remember two sets of V-speeds, in addition to how the plane handles and some controls in different locations and roasting in a very hot plane. It was fun trying out the piper but my brain at this time can only deal with one set of V-speeds and plane controls.
Gosh I love these videos. You can see all the yawing going on in the lead up to the stall lol it’s much more obvious from the side. Can be harder to see in the plane at high AoA. Of course most low hour students don’t like the wing falling, so they try to bring it up with aileron which of course exacerbates it.
Every instructor teaches stalls this way. To pull the yoke back quick enough to induce the stall break ... And that is NOT how stalls are entered in reality. They are entered slowly as the student was doing. What happens then, is one wing stalls just before the other one and the airplane feels like it has entered an uncommanded turn. All too often then, the pilot uses the ailerons to try to counter the uncommanded turn, which just causes the wing to stall worse. This is bad enough on an airplane with benign stall characteristics like the Cessnas. If this happens on an aircraft with a high performance wing (like some replica warbirds etc) the result will be a spin or an inverted dive into the ground. This happened to me on short final in an airplane with docile characteristics. I recovered using attitude and power and went around. It was only after I landed that I worked out what had happened. This happened on a windy, gusty day and I lost track of my airspeed. The gusts were 15kt above the wind speed and that is what caused my stall. I don't know why instructors keep teaching stalls this way. New pilots don't recognize a stall when it doesn't "snap" like it did when they were learning.
First half of the video was excellent, but it doesn't feel right about putting the power to idle on recovery from a departure stall, remember that the learner does not know about unusual attitude recoveries yet, so she should probably be trained on recovery from a departure stall first which entails putting power all the way forward (which it should be already) AND pitching below the straight and level line in respect to the horizon at the same time, stopping any turns, climbing away, and going back to the original altitude and heading. If the plane does end up in the insipient spin phase, then take the controls and teach her about stall awareness first, and then you can teach her about insipient spins, spin awareness, and spin recoveries. When you teach her about putting the power to idle because the nose is too down and as a result, it becomes an unusual attitude or worse yet, an insipient spin, it will confuse her later on or maybe she will get it, who knows? But the problem is, is that she needs to know the distinction between those two phases: (1) recovery from a departure stall still? , or (2) is the plane now in the insipient phase of spin or an unusual attitude? Why is this important? Well, learners are impatient and they have emotional reactions such as doing things too quickly because they don't like the present situation and they want to get out of it as soon as possible, especially during their solos, if, God forbids something happens like a departure stall on her solo, she may put the power to idle right away (emotional reaction, impatience) on recovery which is obviously dangerous because you need both power and pitch forward to recover from a departure stall. If THEN the plane enters an insipient spin or a nose down unusual attitude, then she can put the power to idle, but not any earlier than that. That distinction needs to be made to her and the learner needs to understand that so that way, even if they do make a mistake, they can correct it by applying the correct procedure 2 or 3 seconds later, hopefully. Anyways, I just wanted to point that out, your teaching styles is one of the best ones I've seen. Thanks for keeping the sky safe.
this is a very good video, although it can only partially convey how much more aggressive the departure (power-on) stalls are compared to benign approach (power-off) stalls. honestly, it is really humbling, especially when it catches you unexpected, e.g., while distracted, like in a true departure climb scenario
It's frightening to think this a "post solo" student as I would have guessed this is her second or third lesson! While the instructor demonstrates great patience and tolerance, it's obvious she's 1) 10 miles behind the aircraft, 2) afraid of it and 3) not thoroughly familiar with its performance. Either she's washed out of maybe 60 hours later has finally grasped the concepts. Wow!
This looks so simple on a video, or demo, but I know the first time it would happen to me all that would come out of my mouth is "WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!" So it is like getting distracted while driving a car. IF you focus on something to your right or left, the drivers tend to lose focus on the forward momentum of their car and they start to veer off. The instructor here is really professional.
I'm not a fan of how this is being taught. You're trying to teach her stall recovery and spin recovery at the same time, which are not the same thing. If you're stalled but not spinning, power idle is not the move. You haven't even trained out aileron deflection or ingrained maintaining level flight with rudder, which are the main things you need to AVOID a spin. Receiving this instruction would have confused me greatly as a student.
Whoa whoa whoa. I just read the description of this video. This student had flown solo BEFORE this lesson?!?! Somebody signed off on her before she experienced a power on stall??? I don't know what to say.
Aaaaaand I just watched the "back seat stall." For anyone reading this, DO NOT do anything shown in this video. For the "recovery" on that last stall, she pulled the power and violently applied full up elevator. The instructor went on to reinforce these actions by praising her for "recovering" on her own. This will kill you at low altitude. This is NOT how to recover from a stall. It's exactly the opposite of what to do. Please go do some reading, find a good resource for stall training and recovery, and forget you ever saw this video.
When they instruct as the student is flying the airplane… They can’t absorb. It’s like driving while being given directions… You won’t be able to find your way next time. The procedures and explanations should be discussed before hand or during a period while the instructor has the controls… Student pilots are perpetually task saturated when flying.
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The best instructor is one that's confident enough to know that he/she can get you out of anything you put yourself into. That's how you learn.
The instructor is very good. He explains the principles well and puts the scenarios in the context of real life situations. The student will surely master that POS recovery with his help. 😄
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Personally I would have trim the plane to hands off at 75kts then bring in full power the plane will then climb at the trim speed without any pressure of the yolk. Then pull back firm until it stalls, just drop the nose don't touch the power stop the wing drop with rudder.
She it trying to pull back with more force that she would have in a normal TO that was trim for TO speed.
I did like the turn around and and stall the plane.
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She damn near could have induced a spin with that right aileron input.
she is only learning you know, every student does that because its an instinctive reaction and Im sure if you took flying lessons, you would have made same mistake
This comment is a bit late, but I needed to comment here. This is absolutely phenomenal instruction. I'm a low-ish time instructor, and this guy is what I strive to be. Encouraging, insightful, and extremely patient and calm. I applaud this man, and hope this student understands how lucky she is.
comment is not late, but the bragging about yourself is not necessary
@AwesomeAngryBiker bragging about myself? Excuse me?
This instructor is REALLY good. My mother used to teach Gliding (Sail Plane flying) and she had the same temperament and style. Very calm with the students (as I was told many years later) helped them understand that the most important thing was to understand what the craft was doing and how to react to the situation calmly but quickly while assessing multiple conditions. If I ever took up power flying, I would want this guy to be my instructor. He explains, so well and is very non judging through the learning curve.
Going thru this right now. It's interesting how you can tell yourself 100 times to "Control the yaw with your feet", the moment it happens, your first reaction as an inexperienced pilot is to "recover with ailerons". You're so used to driving cars. Damn you cars...
😂. Great job Student and Instructor.
I really like this guy's teaching style but I can't say I agree that power idle is a good reflex to build for every power on stall. If you aren't in a spin, seems like you risk making matters worse by killing the power.
What a CFI 👏! Congrats for that lessons! useful information to every pilot.
Holy crap my pants....I just did my first hour of flight yesterday and RUclips in its algorithm glory, brought me to this. My only reassurance is that the instructor went up there with her to do this.
Great video, I love that last pull. My favorite part was when she asked to try it again. I'll bet she became an excellent pilot.
Great instruction. I’d like to see her eyes outside during the setup and entry to the maneuver a lot more than is evident from the video - she’s staring hard at those instruments a she’s slowing the plane. The real world distraction stuff is great.
This was honestly very helpful and amazing, I find everything coming natural to me except letting loose and telling my plane to stall. The single video showing exactly what I've hit and how to recover from it has been nothing short of instrumental in my path going forward as a pilot. Thank you so much for posting this video!
Now THIS is training. Not hypothesizing or conceptualizing. Training!
Very good instructor and a good disposition student awesome
What a great instructor. Reminds me of mine years ago. Very good demeanor and skills working with the student makes all the difference!
Great video, competence is so satisfying, my dad was a pilot
Such a amazing training, great job
It almost feels like you're in the plane the way the camera is angled. Excellent video
Very real maneuvers. I like the lean recovery. Pretty sure I did the same a few days ago as well Meghan. Train for reality and not just the ACS.
Great training.
Excellent instructor and explanation.
Great lesson!
"I would never do that".... Well, wait until you're solo on a busy traffic with 8 other acft, radio coordination to perform, thermals to fight and all sort of other distractions...
I am so happy to see such a amazing training.He is amazing and also Ican feel that he loves his job!!!He is not the only amazing person u also doing great job.U don’t give up to try one more and more to learn it very well even though u don’t like the feeling of the power on stall.Wish u the best luck for your training!!!
Perfect video to teach this!
Very good instructions, as a gliderpilot we fly near stall wery often. Mushing, stall and spinn are likely to happen if you get distracted. Setting the scenarios in contekst was wery clever and should be done more often by instructors 👍
I would never do this as she's doing it lol I love this video! "Let go of your brother as she's in the climb out hahaa love this video a lot! Stalls are my one last maneuver to really get watching this stalls made me feel better thank you!
Great instructor
Very surprised that someone “post-solo” doesn’t know their numbers. Also not knowing how to control a power on stall while flying solo is a recipe for disaster.
I am a 7 hour student pilot and I the C-152 was up for it's 100 hour, so me and my CFI decided to Piper. The V speeds are all different, and now having to remember two sets of V-speeds, in addition to how the plane handles and some controls in different locations and roasting in a very hot plane. It was fun trying out the piper but my brain at this time can only deal with one set of V-speeds and plane controls.
Gosh I love these videos. You can see all the yawing going on in the lead up to the stall lol it’s much more obvious from the side. Can be harder to see in the plane at high AoA. Of course most low hour students don’t like the wing falling, so they try to bring it up with aileron which of course exacerbates it.
How did she not spin with that full right aileron in the first power on stall recovery?
Cessna -172. Forgiving aircraft.
I want to learn to fly and I want this man to teach me! Seriously where is he?
Immediately power back!
Every instructor teaches stalls this way. To pull the yoke back quick enough to induce the stall break ... And that is NOT how stalls are entered in reality. They are entered slowly as the student was doing. What happens then, is one wing stalls just before the other one and the airplane feels like it has entered an uncommanded turn. All too often then, the pilot uses the ailerons to try to counter the uncommanded turn, which just causes the wing to stall worse. This is bad enough on an airplane with benign stall characteristics like the Cessnas. If this happens on an aircraft with a high performance wing (like some replica warbirds etc) the result will be a spin or an inverted dive into the ground.
This happened to me on short final in an airplane with docile characteristics. I recovered using attitude and power and went around. It was only after I landed that I worked out what had happened. This happened on a windy, gusty day and I lost track of my airspeed. The gusts were 15kt above the wind speed and that is what caused my stall.
I don't know why instructors keep teaching stalls this way. New pilots don't recognize a stall when it doesn't "snap" like it did when they were learning.
Great video great job. Real life scenarios which occur every day should be textbook covered more.
You also have to trim to Vx when climbing at Vx. Cruise trim is nose down..
She had positive attitude, but negative rate. --> Leaf Love the instructor. Good job, both of you!!!
First half of the video was excellent, but it doesn't feel right about putting the power to idle on recovery from a departure stall, remember that the learner does not know about unusual attitude recoveries yet, so she should probably be trained on recovery from a departure stall first which entails putting power all the way forward (which it should be already) AND pitching below the straight and level line in respect to the horizon at the same time, stopping any turns, climbing away, and going back to the original altitude and heading. If the plane does end up in the insipient spin phase, then take the controls and teach her about stall awareness first, and then you can teach her about insipient spins, spin awareness, and spin recoveries. When you teach her about putting the power to idle because the nose is too down and as a result, it becomes an unusual attitude or worse yet, an insipient spin, it will confuse her later on or maybe she will get it, who knows? But the problem is, is that she needs to know the distinction between those two phases: (1) recovery from a departure stall still? , or (2) is the plane now in the insipient phase of spin or an unusual attitude? Why is this important? Well, learners are impatient and they have emotional reactions such as doing things too quickly because they don't like the present situation and they want to get out of it as soon as possible, especially during their solos, if, God forbids something happens like a departure stall on her solo, she may put the power to idle right away (emotional reaction, impatience) on recovery which is obviously dangerous because you need both power and pitch forward to recover from a departure stall. If THEN the plane enters an insipient spin or a nose down unusual attitude, then she can put the power to idle, but not any earlier than that. That distinction needs to be made to her and the learner needs to understand that so that way, even if they do make a mistake, they can correct it by applying the correct procedure 2 or 3 seconds later, hopefully. Anyways, I just wanted to point that out, your teaching styles is one of the best ones I've seen. Thanks for keeping the sky safe.
“Falling Leaf” is a famous maneuver of ZERO fighter.
this is a very good video, although it can only partially convey how much more aggressive the departure (power-on) stalls are compared to benign approach (power-off) stalls.
honestly, it is really humbling, especially when it catches you unexpected, e.g., while distracted, like in a true departure climb scenario
CFI is Great, his cases is excellent
I just did my Flight Review and the testing CFI got made that I reduced power after breaking the Stall
It's frightening to think this a "post solo" student as I would have guessed this is her second or third lesson! While the instructor demonstrates great patience and tolerance, it's obvious she's 1) 10 miles behind the aircraft, 2) afraid of it and 3) not thoroughly familiar with its performance. Either she's washed out of maybe 60 hours later has finally grasped the concepts. Wow!
Yeah… the way he had to keep pointing at the airspeed indicator so she knew what to look at was plenty telling.
What flight hours is she in on this lesson?
Around 20 hours
@@leohorton4146 your a champ. I just started my first lesson last week in OR. Got .9 hrs flight! This Looks crazy! 🤣😅
good instructor
Lmao! “Don’t make me pull over!” lol
This looks so simple on a video, or demo, but I know the first time it would happen to me all that would come out of my mouth is "WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!"
So it is like getting distracted while driving a car. IF you focus on something to your right or left, the drivers tend to lose focus on the forward momentum of their car and they start to veer off.
The instructor here is really professional.
Big wing dip because you weren't on the rudder as well I'm guessing. Step on high wing. Step on it now. My flight control lol
Oh you have NO idea! Lol shit is scary! 😂 I think I screamed a little and recovered while screaming😂😂😂
That's scary. I will have to practice it someday in my aviation classes 😰
She did it 👏
excelent.
Why is she pulling carb heat out on recovery
Because everything about this instruction is wrong.
I keep my hand on the throttle 24/7.
This is how I'm learning from my instructor. My right hand doesn't come off ghst throttle
@@kammyr4082 stay ready!
She was made to fly
Shes in doubt thats when energy control is key
She keeps using ailerons 😁😁
Explain power back because if you get to busy trying to coordinate in nose down attitude, you can over speed and rip off the wings!
That's the guy I want to teach me
Timid student. I'd be wary of traveling with her on the controls.
Also if she nknew her math she would have an idea of 1 kg per cm² of pull force
if you would demonstrate this stuff first. it should help ypur students
I'm not a fan of how this is being taught. You're trying to teach her stall recovery and spin recovery at the same time, which are not the same thing. If you're stalled but not spinning, power idle is not the move. You haven't even trained out aileron deflection or ingrained maintaining level flight with rudder, which are the main things you need to AVOID a spin. Receiving this instruction would have confused me greatly as a student.
Whoa whoa whoa. I just read the description of this video. This student had flown solo BEFORE this lesson?!?! Somebody signed off on her before she experienced a power on stall??? I don't know what to say.
Aaaaaand I just watched the "back seat stall." For anyone reading this, DO NOT do anything shown in this video. For the "recovery" on that last stall, she pulled the power and violently applied full up elevator. The instructor went on to reinforce these actions by praising her for "recovering" on her own. This will kill you at low altitude. This is NOT how to recover from a stall. It's exactly the opposite of what to do. Please go do some reading, find a good resource for stall training and recovery, and forget you ever saw this video.
Should prob have her learn a standard pos instead of making it more complicated.
It's ironic that natural survival reactions could lead to you not surviving !
well, these are natural survival reactions based on monkey instincts. I bet birds have a different set of instincts.
That's why you train, so you have the correct "conditioned" response, not the incorrect instinctive response.
When they instruct as the student is flying the airplane… They can’t absorb. It’s like driving while being given directions… You won’t be able to find your way next time.
The procedures and explanations should be discussed before hand or during a period while the instructor has the controls… Student pilots are perpetually task saturated when flying.
Great instructor bad student. she does what she think is right lol
She look at instruments too much
My god she’s annoying
terrifying lol
Real life power on stall… really ? Is there a fake life power on stall ? Big deal … recovery it !
Good instructor