How GOOD was Salamence ACTUALLY? - History of Salamence in Competitive Pokemon (Gens 3-6)
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- Опубликовано: 12 май 2018
- Salamence! The Dragon Pokemon! The other Gen 3 Pseudo-legendary besides Metagross who has been dreaming about flying since it was a Bagon! Does this dragon live up to its pseudo-legendary status? Join False Swipe Gaming in this brief overview of Salamence in competitive Pokemon!
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Notice I said POPULAR formats, meaning a format where there is a significant amount of people who compete in it for tournaments and so on and so forth. Now Popular does not mean official even though two of the formats I will be covering were official formats being Japan Nintendo Cup and VGC, but it is an indicator of what a good portion of competitive players thought was “optimal” at the time. Also sometimes the Pokemon Battle Historia doesn't provide enough information to talk about certain Pokemon so I add Smogon analysis to make sense of it. This is pretty rare though.
To the people asking why I don't cover Smogon Singles for Gens 1 and 2: It wouldn't really be a history video if I covered those because online Smogon gen 1 meta to my knowledge wasn't actually played until late 2000s. I wanted to cover tournaments/competitive battling that was actually played during the early years of Pokemon (late 90s).
To the people asking why I cover Smogon at all for singles: To my knowledge, Smogon was the most popular format for Gens 3-5 and held a number of tournaments throughout the years. As for Gen 6, I am not covering Battle Spot Singles because there is more information and explanations about sets being used relative to their own meta on Smogon. In other words, there are few written analyses about Battle Spot Pokemon besides the Top tiers and I would like to avoid theorycrafting because it may have a hint of bias (though I theorycraft if I REALLY couldn't find information on a certain Pokemon). The keyword here is explanations. Though I did find statistics of most Pokemon used and most moves used, there wasn't really any explanations on why. Also the few Pokemon I did find analysis of for Top Tier Battle Spot Singles had very similar move sets to the Smogon OU sets anyway.
For the record, I do not care what rules or formats people play their battles by nor am I saying these formats are the only formats that should be played. The way you play Pokemon is between you and your opponent and I will not fault you for using evasion or whatever, I just like examining popular tournament formats.
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Salamence: Wanna see me go into Ubers?
*Mega Evolves*
Salamence: Wanna see me do it again?
Spongebob
Patrick Star
@@burnyrx4205 Spongebob, not Patrick
True💪
I'd like but you're at 666 so...
Bagon: "I wish to fly"
Salamance: "I wish to DOMINATE."
Megamence:I WISH TO DESTROY!!!!
Alolan Ninetales: i wish to ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) you..ugh forget it.
Also
Salamence
Dominance
Sound a like
@@goGothitaLOL He has Intimidate aswell
Congrats, your Shelgon evolved into Devilman
0:38 Ultra Sun dex entry: "Overjoyed to finally be able to fly, it flies all over the place and usually doesn't land until it's completely exhausted and needs sleep."
n word
Noice
SW/SH: "While basking in the joy of flight generally keeps this Pokémon in high spirits, Salamence turns into an uncontrollable menace if something angers it."
that is so wholesome 😇😇😇😇
@@crabohato4954 so it’s deadly when it’s angry
bagon wished to fly, thats why it has wish
Well done
Very well done
Very very well done
Very very very well done
Very very very very well done
"Where it's a niche pick..."
1 month later: Mega Salamence is #2 in the tier by far.
ChesterDaMemeMaster yeah I was surprised about that too
ChesterDaMemeMaster I was thinking the same thing
whos number 1?
TheXJay42Guy Primal Groundon
@@vtmagno23 ty
"I thought Salamence was weird looking, what with its entirely flat wings and all, but maybe Salamence is supposed to look that way because it's Bagon's dream of what a dragon looks like"
That part made me tear up a little. :')
And it's why Bagon learns wish. That's beautiful and brilliant.
And he learns Wish! :D Are there more pokemon with Pokedex entries and/or movepools that have lore like this?
That’s part of the reason Salamance is my favorite Pokémon such great lore and evolution
It only learns Wish by an event, so it's not obtainable by normal means...
I love how he twists the Pokédex entry too, which was supposed to make it sound like a beastly threat, but he makes it sound like a story of unsatisfaction with the next thing he says
Ah yes, Salamence, the Salamence-type Pokémon
Ah yes
Salamence's ultimate weakness, the Onix Type.
tyrauntrum is the best, being both onix and salamance typing must make it fantastic.
Game name plzz
Salamence lost to Vulpix 😯
ruclips.net/video/5w2udl6Z-bU/видео.html
A Bagon just called in a level 9 Salamence. I freaked out
In my moon playthrough I chained for a salamence and got it at level 3... It carried my entire playthrough and now mence is my favorite Pokemon
@@dhruvhosali2416 u sure it wasn't level 13?
Maybe it was a typo
Fabiano Lopes Bagon has a 1% chance to SOS call upon a mence and it will be around the same level as the Bagon.
@@buttergod42 yes, but not level 3
@@bullymaguire632 White Flute maybe. Unless it does not exist in Gen 7.
You know the power creep is real when Salamence is in UU lol
Gen 4: *Ubers*
Gen 6: *UBERS*
Its on first borderline, but yeah still, a big fall
Gen 7: *MOTHERfrickING UBERS*
@@undercoverfbi3155 it actually was underused for quite some time until it finally got banned there. And boy did it destroy underused during that time!
Highlight of sadism: Giving a Bagon an Everstone. "You will never learn to fly as long as you live"
what if the bagon is a masochist
@@burgersaurus4573 what is wrong with you
why
clamency y not?
@HakuHashi Originals You meam wynaut?
"No one wants to be just playing second fiddle to Rayquaza." And then ORAS happened, and everyone was playing second fiddle to Rayquaza.
After all these years, I still cannot believe that little piece of vender trash squirrel not only tanked a friggin' Draco Meteor, but managed to edge out a victory. It's mind-boggling.
Who?
Lucas beck in 2014 at a tournament a player called se jun park used a pachirisu to win the finals, it was a bulky one that used follow me to redirect Salamence’s dragon attacks intended for its garchomp ally
@@hexmaniacciaran lol
Ngl that match was the definition of hype.
2 years late but you still have to admit it was cool as hell
*How GOOD was Swampert ACTUALLY?*
*I WILL NEVER GIVE UP*
YOU SHOULDN'T GIVE UP. SWAMPERT IS THE BEST
let's see the Hoenn Starters
JT LDrago94
JT LDrago94 yeah!!!! 😍😍😍😍😉
It was amazing. Done.
How good were Dusclops and Dusknoir actually?
Dusknoir is underappreciated. Makes me sad
They're really bad, but I still love myself a Dusknoir sometimes
They're outclassed by almost any ghost type in the game. Even Eviolite Dusclops sucks because of Knock Off
Their low HP coupled with lack of reliable recovery outside of Pain Split really holds them back. Also, Knock Off is everywhere and absolutely destroys Dusclops.
I really like them, shame they're outclassed by almost everything.
Dusclops and Dusknoir unfortunately have to compete against Cofagrigus for the "Best Suicide Trick Room Setter" title, as it's fun to use Trick Room + Destiny Bond.
7:03 “Every Pokémon needed to carry a Scizor”
How do I equip a Scizor?
I think it will work well with mixed Oran Berry.
@El Joshi De Peluche Scizor juice does shut down common walls like Babiri and Iapapa.
Blissey needed a Scizor, ditto needed a Scizor, magikarp needed a Scizor, even Scizor needed a Scizor
I don’t see the problem man
Give salamence fire blast or flamethrower or hey heat wave
Sometimes u need a friend 2 help u fight against a giant scary dragon
People: Be careful what you wish for.
Salamence: Hold my Salamencite.
Salamence lost to Vulpix 😯
ruclips.net/video/5w2udl6Z-bU/видео.html
TENTACRUEL and DUGTRIO are the only gen 1 pokemon that were very successful in later gens that hasn't had a video yet.
We need a video of them.
Give us Pachirisu! Make Parks proud!
DrPumpkinz Prepare for mostly disappointment. As hype Pachirisu was at Worlds, it would be never able to pull that off again. Popularity kills.
Duggy: one note trapper
Tentacruel: meh attacker to only really fitting on stall
We didn’t do kanghskan or scythe yet
Scyther
How GOOD Was Mawile ACTUALLY?
Actually, it's fairy typing is what gave it a boost. It's mega was good, but there were better.
Mawile was always cool. And then Mega Mawile came along and made it the GOAT.
Linkychu Thats a funny way of spelling mega mawile
How good was mega mawile*
Horrible until gen 6... ANSWERED
9:25: *uses DD on a mamoswine*
Salamence: “ Haha I’m in trouble”
Salamence lost to Vulpix 😯
ruclips.net/video/5w2udl6Z-bU/видео.html
"When I think of Dragon Dance, I think of Salamence but it used to be Winona"
*I felt that*
*Altaria
You haven't truly played pokemon until you have experience PTSD of her Altaria sweeping your team with earthquake
@@johnapple6646 I have PTSD of Watson and his magneton
Salamence lost to Vulpix 😯
ruclips.net/video/5w2udl6Z-bU/видео.html
@@sceptile7581 me too,my grovyle went to lv29 just to beat it
I think you missed some part about Mence in Gen 4 and 5 in Uber. Yes, it is mostly considered an inferior Rayquaza, but people actually put them both in the same team. Since Mence power level isn't much different from Ray, it is as if a "loophole" of species clause, and one can potentially soften the counter of the other. Team support is needed to patch up the same weakness of both, but it can work with the right support.
Salamence lost to Vulpix 😯
ruclips.net/video/5w2udl6Z-bU/видео.html
How good was Swampert?
Mega Salamance:
I can sweep your team with a STAB double-edge powered by a dragon dance with my obscure attack stat and regain my health with roost. I can also do the same thing with outrage.
I can also hold back myself and use return
Klefki with Thunder Wave:
You shall never reach truth
I can sturdinja
@@luckyk7429 Except Dusk Mane is everywhere. With Sunsteel Strike spam.
Luckyk Wiat sturdy shedinja? Damn u hacker lol
So I never used Mega Mence, so I'm just now seeing that he doesn't actually lose his front legs, he just puts them in those little foot holders and I think that's adorable, lmao
How GOOD Was Swampert ACTUALLY? Let's see the Gen 3 Starters
NOW ITS SWAMPERT TIME BOYS!!!
When i hear dragon dance, I think Whiscash....
Said no one ever
ok
Lapras entered the chat.
@@hahaveryfunnyindeed2543 well now flygon has dragon dance
hides my Whiscash*
Just wait until Garchomp gets Dragon Dance
Salamence was my absolute favorite Pokemon when I was a kid. Even now it still ranks in my top 10. It's design is flawless. So cool looking.
It’s an amazing Pseudo legendary; It’s in my top 5
Oh I've used Salamence since Gen 3, only Raichu, Kyurem and Giratina eclipse it as my favorites.
What's your fave by far?
always thought it was cool but goodra stole that spot for me seems like a underdog but its stalls and hits hard with special can be annoying with its hidden ability and to top it off could if you really want even go physical shame thats its worst set considering its dex entry literally says it hits as hard as 100 heavyweight boxers
That 3d portrait really ruined Salamence for me tho
I just noticed that Salamence looks a lot like *Devilman* from the original Anime.
Who is devilman
Wow, you're right. Didn't notice the similarity for the longest time.
Skeptical Thinker who is it I don't know who devilman is
And Superman.
NeroAngelo616 oh ok I get it
He does too
I'd honestly like to see tentacruel next
Yes!
I was thought it was lame as a kid until I leaned it was amazing.
Tbh same
Tentacruel is one of the most annoying Pokemons ever, period. Once it sets up Barrier or Reflect it's almost unkillable
Yes, I wished he did more interesting pokemon instead everyone chose the most mainstreams.
What about doing special smaller videos about the Little Cup meta once a month? (or less!)
I'm a super big fan of the channel and I love all of these meta analysis', but I think it could be super fun to learn about a huge meta game that very few know about. We all know Garchomp, Dragonite, and Salamence were good. However, did you know Chinchou is a top meta threat in Little Cup? Or Timburr, or Shellder? I think it would be fun and actually very surprising to learn about the babies! Keep up the good work and I look forward to next week's video :)
You want lc? (Me too) but lileep with stockpile and recovery.
i want LC too
Side things like little cup are so fun. It's a damn shame the games STILL done have stuff like a tournament creator or the ability to properly host multi battles. Sword and shield had so much potential but its online is just so bad
I had no clue chinchou was so good in LC, I love chinchou and lanturn! Shame lanturn isn't very good.
And despite the yanma line being bad, in LC yanma is really good (I think)!
@@microwave8931 I heard that yanma was once outclassed by ledian in competitive
Since this video:
Gen 7 Salamence: Arguably the worst it has ever been Competitively. It’s too strong for UU, but very mediocre in OU. Outclassed by Gyarados and it’s Mega as a Dragon Dancer in OU. It can use Flynium Z, but that’s it.
Mega Salamence in still great in Ubers.
Gen 8 Salamence: Mega Salamence is gone, but Salamence is strictly a UU mon. It does rather well in UU and has new tricks like Hurricane and finally has a good Physical Flying STAB to use in Dual Wingbeat. Salamence can go Physical or Special whenever it wants. Salamence is one of the many Pokes who love the Heavy Duty Boots, letting it avoid Stealth Rock. A Defensive Defogger set popped up with Roost.
Nice!
Salamence. Okay. I was actually expecting Kangaskhan due to it being Mother's Day and all and that seemed to be the most motherly type pick.
*How GOOD was Swampert ACTUALLY?* / *How GOOD was Exeggutor ACTUALLY?*
Oh *boi*
I though nobody cared about exeguttor
Eloy Ricardo Hell naw. He's my 2nd fav grass type.
How good was Dusclops?
And Dusknoir?
Am I wrong or was dusclops better because of eviloite? I like dusknoir more that design is amazing
@@jeffcavaliersbluemarker9865 nice name lol
@@peterdickens6999 what do ya want from me? why do ya care for me? WHERE DO WE ALL GO WHEN WE FALL ASLEEP
@@Djirifoekrkfkf yo mama
7:02 every pokemon needed to carry a scizor
How good was Magmar and Magmortar ACTUALLY?!
The Vengeful 'Vadam yeah!!!! 😍😍😍😍😉
Give US CLEFABLE , the king of gen 6 needs its own episode, also it better get its episode before gen 7 starts getting covered, everyone help
I use Clefable with Moveset of
Cosmic Power
Minimize
Baton Pass
Soft Boiled
Clefable is the reason why I can DD easily on Mega Salamence because of boosted Defense and SpDF and boosted evaisioness makes me have a lot of time to do DD.
Y’all need to remake this one
How good was Dugtrio actually?
Hi
@@ii-jy6gd racist
@@johskr2223 what
@@johskr2223 w a t
Wut
How GOOD was Tentacruel ACTUALLY?! Gen 1 throw back!
We will get it eventually
Ok genwunner
How GOOD was Swampert ACTUALLY?
There’s been some news recently about how Salamance’s ancestor, Roaring Moon, might become banned along with the likes of Ursaluna’s new blood moon form in one of the competitive tiers. So perhaps in an updated video of Salamance’s competitive career can see how Salamance did and his paradox ancestor performed in the competitive scene.
Salamence just went 3 for 3!
Was it Ubers before DLC 2 dropped? It’s OU as of now but I can’t remember if it was banned before new DLC
Salamence might just be my favorite Pokémon due to its awesome design and awesome evolution story
Gen 7, normal Salamence remains in BL because Fyinium Z Fly is too much for UU to handle with the snowballing with Moxie, and the steel/fairy dominated metagame in OU renders it invalid and useless. Megamence, however, still is solidly in Ubers at A+, the second best Mega in the tier after Mega Gengar, even WITH the Aerialate nerf. That should say something as to how brokenly good Megamence is, coming behind only the best of the best like Dusk Mane Necrozma, Yveltal, Marshadow, and Xerneas.
Well done! This could be realistically part of his gen 7 vids.
True. Xerneas especially countered it if salamence didn't already have momentum.
Megamence would be the strongest DDer in the ubers tier if it wasn't for Megaquaza not needing an item to megaevolve in gen 6
Paul Smith primal groudon is the best mon in ubers
@@TheUnique69able in terms of utility, yes. HUUUGE overhaul for GROUDON. He can be used a few different ways. For example, using stealth rock to trick opponents, then clobbering them.
Swampert!! Please
Salamence was always my fave since R/S/E days. Glad it's still good. Currently thinking about breeding a Bagon with good stats and egg moves in Sun so that I could transfer it to ultra moon right at the start. Will take on ultra Necrozma with it.
Salamence lost to Vulpix 😯
ruclips.net/video/5w2udl6Z-bU/видео.html
I have a connection with salamence after having a shiny bagon in my UM team, being able to mega evolve it was glorious.
How *GOOD* was Clefable *ACTUALLY?*
Swampert
"Can we address first that it changed color completely? Where did the indigo go?" I don't know why but the line delivery there made me chuckle more than it should have.
Great video! Love your content. I'm not a competitive pokemon player, but I do enjoy learning about strategies used in the professional scene.
Salamence lost to Vulpix 😯
ruclips.net/video/5w2udl6Z-bU/видео.html
'wish' really works in the pokemon world for some reason, like how people wished for Rayquaza to mega evolve to protect them.
Salamence lost to Vulpix 😯
ruclips.net/video/5w2udl6Z-bU/видео.html
How GOOD is Swampert actually?
Well lets hope salamence makes a return with the expansion pack in sword and shield
According to a datamine it, along with other iconic Hoenn mons like the starters and fossils, are returning. Though even without the datamine Salamence would be likely to return because Metagross is coming back.
It most likely will be UU
If tyranitsr and skarmory became UU then salamence will experience the same thing
@@coldore6734 I think it's a bit early to say that as we don't know what the Crown Tundra meta wil lbe like
It finally gets an decent flying stab
Guess what
Salamance just keeps getting better. It is becoming the Fredrick of Pokemon.
How good was Shedinja actually?
Video should be 1 minute long.
President Togekiss Shit.
He may be bad but i love all his gimmicks
Galiaverse like its hp lol
President Togekiss imagine if they give shedinja a hidden ability sturdy lol.
How GOOD was blaziken ACTUALLY?
I will never go quiet!
Other rs starters too
Average, average, OP, even more OP, just as OP
Especially with that hidden move
@Nik Brusk when did blaziken get a dream world ability?
@Nik Brusk i didnt know that i aint follow pokemon since heartgold and soulsilver
>Calm down son why are you so angry
That literally made me laugh out loud. 10/10 script from Zane. Tell him I said thank you
@@Crinjal_2611
Zane is one of the writers for False Swipe Gaming. He used to write the entire video, but now he just writes the VGC sections and Smash Bros videos.
This series in my favorite part of every sunday. Thanks a lot for the timely releases!!!
How GOOD is Swampert ACTUALLY?
Swampert.... you know you want it.
Thanks for making a video of my favorite Pokémon! Salamence is a fearsome attacker and I think what makes me like it so much is it’s diverse movepool, incredible sweeping ability and overall design
Salamence is one of my favourite Pokemon, glad to see it's always been a beast in competitive. Interesting video, good job.
Swampert pls
How GOOD Was Marowak ACTUALLY?
"I could really use a salamence right about now"
Moxie: (exists)
Foul Play users: *Allow us to introduce ourselves*
how *GOOD* was sableye actually?? i need this
Byron Slowe Please, my favorite Pokemon!
Byron Slowe Thats a funny way of spelling mega sableye
How GOOD were Misdreavus and Mismagius ACTUALLY?
DerSamalander yesss
I support this 100%
Yas
DerSamalander yes please
Yes pleaaase!
Its so adorable that bagon gets wish
Salamence lost to Vulpix 😯
ruclips.net/video/5w2udl6Z-bU/видео.html
I've watched this episode several times because I like hearing someone talk about how good my favorite Pokémon is.
please do swampert next
How good was Flygon actually? Can’t leave him in Salamence’s dust for the 100th time!
Salamence lost to Vulpix 😯
ruclips.net/video/5w2udl6Z-bU/видео.html
salamence is so good it has an entire type named after it
sub to my youtube
@@Djirifoekrkfkf no
0:22 Bagon's hidden ability is Sheer Force
I see what u did there
Never realized that until now, good catch
How GOOD was Tentacruel ACTUALLY?
Little Bagon didn't just get to fly, it soared to dominance.
In gen 8 monotype I remember making support mance because I learned it had wish in this vid
Still holding out hope for someday finding out how good Tentacruel was DX
Pretty, Pretty, Pretty, Pretty Good!
How good was Swampert Actually?
How good was Swampert actually?
I see lots of swamperts
Salamence never had a strong Flying STAB move
Fly: Am I a joke to you?
Fly: O yeah 2 turns to attack *Cries*
Salamence lost to Vulpix 😯
ruclips.net/video/5w2udl6Z-bU/видео.html
Mega salamence with return
It’s funny how Salamance went from “a niche pick” to “the clear number 2” after a while...
How good was FLYGON actually? Please?
Pretty good until literally 1 Gen after its introduction when GameFreak introduced the most bullshit Pokemon ever that was the same thing as Flygon but superior is literally EVERY STAT.
Ah, the poor man's Garchomp.
Jk, Flygon is dope
*How GOOD were Tangela and Tangrowth ACTU...*
wait
I'm the only one that cares for the spaghetti god
welp
*How GOOD was Swampert ACTUALLY?*
Cuz you know originality is dead
I hear Tangela was pretty good in the lower tiers, then Tangrowth came along and was meh until it got Regenerator
Tangela in Gen 1 had 2 Bannd Attacks. It was very good, but cant shine. The Tangela today is just a empty shell.
@@Sunaki1000 I mean technically Tangela should be an LC pokémon, but Tangela is actually banned from there and makes its appearance in PU, which I'd say is pretty huge since Untiered list is actually pretty fucking huge.
“The deep *fervent* desire”
“Salamence got *wish* of all things”
It was here the whole time
PERSIAN, it's got a very strange and interesting history of being a niche pick in Gen 1 due to crits then kind of shitting around in NU
I agree! Persian is very interesting and is my favorite Pokemon!
Salamence lost to Vulpix 😯
ruclips.net/video/5w2udl6Z-bU/видео.html
How GOOD was Clefable ACTUALLY? I’ll never give up, you know
EDIT: finally, I see we’re getting a quite big squad, let’s go, Clefable-BOYZ!
Salamence lost to Vulpix 😯
ruclips.net/video/5w2udl6Z-bU/видео.html
Bagon wished for wings, now it can cut is engines in half with them!
And Salamce **Wished** for Wish.
It's funny how mega mence is better in the ubers formats than in the normal formats in VGC
I’m not surprisesd if Salamence and Garchomp are the reason why we have Fairy-type Pokémon today 🤭
And heidreigon
We have ice types for garchomp
@@yumekojabami1326 except they’re still not immunized from boosted Outrage 😉 Whereas Sylveon can slip in and take that Outrage
Salamence lost to Vulpix 😯
ruclips.net/video/5w2udl6Z-bU/видео.html
@@nicksummers5101 Which makes perfect sense that a Land Shark Dragon raging and attacking does zero damage to a pink ribbon dog thing or an oversized pink ball. (Clefable)
Personally, one of my favorite builds is a bulkier wish-passer and defogger. Nobody sees support 'mence coming, you'll get free defogs and wishes off when people switch to their sweep-stopper instead of something to set up on it, then when they realize it's a support set, a lot of people forget that even uninvested, Salamence hits really hard.
A Prinny Slacking Off no
Interesting. But, yeah I'm afraid it would be an only once time surprise.
What are you running with wish/defog ? Cause there's plenty of things that can set up on it. And then it is not enough bulky (25%on rocks) to effectively handle what it would aim to.
You could use dragonite instead, why wasting this beast. Dragonite is immune to hazard
The element of surprise
Hai Long nguyen dragonite and salamence have the same typing, and dragonite isn’t immune to hazards (stealth rock)
@@penggao7034 dragonite is bulkier though, 91/95/100 (and multiscale) vs 95/80/80.
How BAD was Entei's movepool ACTUALLY?
Can't learn Flare Blitz outside of one event that was released back in Gen 5
Also didn’t know Sacred Fire until Gen 6 but it’s still linear
Shade
😂
Better than Flareon...
Which means very little.
7:01 "every Pokémon needs to carry a scizor"
I'd love to see how Flygon was. I knew that he's underwhelming compared to Salamence, but Flygon is awesome.
Since you mention it so much, How good was milotic Actually?
How good were misdreavus and mismagius actually?
Finally Sun and Moon...
Mega Salamence was never allowed in Sun and Moon OU, returning straight to Ubers. Where it was, once again, amazing. If anything it was a even better than before. While Aerilate now only gave a 20% boost to Normal moves, its typing let it check Pokemon like Ho-Oh, Marshadow and physical Primal Groudon. Dusk Mane Necrozma’s popularity meant Earthquake was no longer required, as Prism Armor meant it wouldn’t KO after a boost anyway. In that slot it could run Substitute to use weak walls like defensive Zygarde-Complete and Ho-Oh as set up fodder, or Facade to take advantage of burns. It could also run an offensive Defog set, which freed the user up to run a different set on their Arceus. Mega Salamence was arguably the best mega in the tier - while it didn’t have mega Gengar’s trapping potential it was much bulkier and had much better defensive utility, thus making it easier to fit onto teams.
Regular Salamence wasn’t so lucky. It quickly fell out of OU, but the arrival of Z moves made it way too strong for UU. A +1 Supersonic Skystrike would tear through even Hippowdon after a Dragon Dance, and if it got a Moxie boost it was game over. And it could still run its old Mixed set, so not even Quagsire was a safe check. It was banned to UUBL, but it couldn’t do much in OU with all the new Fairy types running around, so it was left in forgotten and unloved in the Underused banlist.
In VGC 2017 it saw pretty much no usage. As an Intimidator it was outclassed by Arcanine while Garchomp gave you a better Dragon type. Things improved once it got its mega back in 2018 though. It could now abuse its base 120 Speed right away with the new mechanics, it packed Intimidate pre mega and it could run physical, special or mixed sets, giving it a lot of versatility. At worlds in the Masters division it came 4th at the hands of Japan’s Yusei Matsuno and amazingly 1st at the hands of Ecuador’s Paul Ruiz. He ran a mono attacking set of Dragon Dane, Double-Edge, Roost and Protect, making for a threatening bulky sweeper. It didn’t see any top 8 appearances in the seniors division, though it did clock up a 5th place in juniors at the hands of Japan’s Yuri Yahashi. But in VGC 2019, the restricted Pokemon came down and no one was using Mega Salamence when they could use Mega Rayquaza. Even the small niche it had in 2016, where it could outrun and OHKO Mega Rayquaza was stolen by Ultra Necrozma, who didn’t even take up the mega slot.
*ouch...*
Really surprised Dragonite wasn't mentioned once among all the comparisons to other Dragon types... I feel like it and Salamance had a rivalry for a while, with one pulling ahead of the other, only to be outdone the next Generation.
Between these two, I've been in Camp Dragonite ever since it got Multiscale.
Screw Dragonite, Salamence is the man.
@@xyro3633 My nigga
I'm more of a salamence guy, didn't dig the fat goofy looking dragon
Dragonite as it stands is the 2nd best pseudo legendary solely because of its ridiculous versatility.
Anything that is a weakness to Dragonite can be countered by something in its ridiculously large move pool.
If Dragonite ran ice beam flame thrower and thunder nothing was stopping it making you have to get creative beyond taking advantage of typing to beat Dragonite.
How Good was Primeape Actually?
Decent PU sweeper/revenge killer.
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Dammit, I've been asking for a whole year and YOU get all those likes?!
Darkrai counter
He sucked actually.