NHL Over OR Under? FREE AGENT EDITION!
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- Опубликовано: 4 июн 2024
- Decided to put a little twist on the NHL Over Or Under series, in this one I try and predict pending NHL free agents next cap hits! If you guys enjoy this type of NHL content be sure to subscribe to the channel if you are new!
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6:40 Minor correction. Colorado didn't give up a first just for him, it was for him plus dumping Johansen's deal. Most ACGMs at capfriendly prior to the deadline were suggesting it would cost about a second to dump Johansen's contract, so the value Walker got in the trade was closer to a second than a first.
8 years for 11.5 mil? No shot Sam gets that much lmfao
Yeah that’s crazy, he definitely improved his game but 11.5? He’ll be skinner 2.0 at that price
With the way the salary cap is increasing I fully expect him to get something around that.
I was thinking that since he scored 57 goals and can potentially win the cup this season, a couple teams can give him around that cap hit.
It does sound absurd but the fact of the matter is, Reinhart is coming off of a 94 point season as a second line C, mainstay on PK1 and PP1, plays a 200 foot game, high IQ, isn’t afraid to get physical. Key part in 2 deep playoff runs.
That’s not a package a ton of Centrers bring, some team could reach for Reinhart.
Remember how Tavares got overpay offers from 3 teams just because he was a FA elite Center, he was more or less considered a 9 million player at the time.
@@steveciancone8941he’s not a second line center he’s played RW with the panthers the last 3 season and mostly next to Barkov or Lundell
You’ve been pumping out videos, nice work brother
if tkachuk and barkov take team friendly 9.5 rhino won’t get more
Looking forward to the announcement:
Ken Holland signs Zadorov 8 x 9.25m 📈
2:42
Ben Chiarot, Andrew Copp, JT Compher, and Justin Holl might have a word lol.
Yzerman is definitely not a hard negotiator
Both of you are missing context and misrepresenting.
Yzerman is known as a tough negotiator with his players, still under team control( RFA)
There is no tough negotiating with free agents. Literally every player gets over paid in free agency, you want the player, gotta pony up. Especially when you've been a bad rebuilding team, gotta over pay just to get a play to consider.
Of course those are bad contracts ( compher's is fine imo ), not gonna defend them, but that's just outright bad decision making opposed to bad negotiating.
I like the new concept! Good video Ny!
I wouldnt be suprised if Zadorov is a guy who gets massively overpaid. If Gudbranson got a 4x4 anything is possible.
But my finger
The Detroit Redwings are calling
@@OhNyquist say bye bye 👋
@@jacobmurphy4994 no
Solid content, thank you sir.
Kane was a PPG player and showed he still has it. I think 6.5 mil for him is fair given what we've seen older players like Pavelski and Giroux get.
My boy Ny putting out vids like a W mans
The Red Wings should be willing to go 8x7 on Raymond for sure. You cannot possibly say no to that.
Raymond can say no to that
It’s pretty safe to say Raymond will get 8 yr 8 mil.
You could give him 9 mill and it will look like a steal in 2 years
When big Z gets that contract, I will be here to call you out, lol. Love the videos. Great job
Form a Cats fan's pov, best case scenario if the team were to resign both Montour and Reinhart and have some level of cap flexibility, would be Montour at $6.5m AAV max and Reinhart at $9.5 - 10m
I think anyone signing with FL will be under.
Anyone testing the market Utah I suspect is going to overpay on 2-3 year deals.
Love your videos. I feel like some team is gonna look at Zadorov's playoff run and WAY over pay him. Seems like it happens ever year where some bottom 6 guy gets way overpaid. I hope for your finger's sake I'm wrong!
I keep missing these polls even with alerts on.
Big Z's offensive performance is a.outlier, so he is worth 4 million for 4yrs.
Not sure how things will go. But I'm pretty sure Samsonov is going to do whatever it takes to get a longer term deal signed this summer. Maybe that locks him in at the lower terms, but I don't see him taking a one-year deal unless there's no other option offered to him.
Averaging I think all the contracts would be within limits you said. But UFA situation can cause crazy bid war was thugh.:D
Boldy got 7x7, so I expect Raymond to get something similar dealing with Yzerman. Boldy had a great rookie season then a good, but inconsistent sophomore season before he got his new deal. Raymond is in a similar position where he only had one good season. Raymond might get a little more, but I don't see him getting more than $8M.
11:03 i see that laffy goal vs devils back there
5:48 Guentzel already declined a contract like that (from Pittsburgh)
I think they will try to keep Marchessault but they will have to trade away a piece and I think that piece may be Theodore who has a 5.2 million dollar cap hit for one more year. I think this because of the Hanifin signing and will give guys like Korczak and Cormier chance to have a regular spot in the lineup. I’m no GM of course and I could be wrong. Would suck to see Marchessault go. Martinez most likely done in Vegas and Stephenson is a toss up
I think Matt Roy could get north of 5m this year as well! Kings would love to take Sean Walker back btw.
Question for the masses: What happens to Jonathan Toews if he decides to come back?
I haven’t read the comments yet. But I would just like to say, never forget that guys get drastically overpaid every July. Some of these RFAs idk. But for UFAs, every year there’s at least three or so guys where you can’t believe how much they got paid. Bidding war clown shows, man. It’s gonna be crazy.
Edit: Guys like Guentzel, Reinhart, Montour, Marchessault, DeBrusk, etc., are gonna get fuuuuuckin paid. Marchy and Brusk not as much as the others. But I think they’ll def be on the list of guys who got paid a lot more than they “should” have.
I think its aafe to assume Raymond will make around Stutzle money maybe more as he is way more established then when Stutzle signed that deal he was coming off of a 55ish point season Raymond already had his breakout season and isnt signed so I could see him getting 9mil plus on his next deal but its hard to say. I still think I'd consider a bridge with Raymond if I was Stevie but we'll see him and Seider are very interesting RFAs just how 1 really had an amazing season and then Seider has struggled a bit since his rookie season but with no help on the blue line which will help his camp in negotiations. Red Wings are definitely going to be joining the no cap space group next season along with almost every team
Thank you for the kind words.
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I think Zad is in for a rude awakening. Be surprised if he gets $4.5M anywhere, let alone with term.
12:54 Sabres definitely have enough cap for him I would give him 5x2
As a bruins fan, you don’t want Debrusk😂 So inconsistent and cannot do anything on his own.
Kane-> Chicago 2 years x 3.28 per season
With the way Raymond played in the last few games it would be a scam not to give him a lil extra. Players like that dont grow on trees and need to be respected. Still pains me to see the way thay missed the playoffs cuz of Philadelphia...Thay had so much more in them.
Marchessault staying with Vegas, he likes his living situation at the point in his family life. Vegas also gets to play the no income tax game. I believe someone is being traded but Marchessault, 4 years 26 million with the backend higher in structure.
9:39 Vegas would have no problem letting him walk, have you not seen how they act?
Debrusk over $5.5💀💀
Joshua. 3.8m x 5.
Zadorov. 5m x 5.
Hronek. Trade but if not 6.8m x 8.
Doubt Hronek would sign 6.8 x 8 considering he already rejected a 6.5 x 8
@@PokerZoomer that's the max the Nucks should offer. I'm hoping we trade him.
@@Xyy2387 I hope he stays but he wants too much 😷
@@PokerZoomer Yep. Looking like they're not budging on 8m. If that's the case, good riddance.
Joshua n zaddy I'd do less term if it means a bit higher cap hit. Hronek prob going to sign around 7.25. Halfway of his ask and Canucks ask.
Yzerman looks at the previous three years, he’s logical and doesn’t do what Calgary did with #10. One good year means absolutely nothing !
Ben Chiarot, Justin Holl, Andrew Copp, and JT Compher?
The #10 who was above a point per game for the previous 4 seasons before coming to calgary?
@@DarkLobster69Comphers contract alone wouldn’t be so bad if it weren’t for the other three. Especially Copp.
Bruh Swayman will get way, way more than 6.5
Steven Stamkos: $6.5 M
Sam Reinhart 8x9.5M
C'mon Vancouver keep Josh Lindholm zadorov keep core get rid of rest 🤠🍻🚬😸🦊🐱
Would love to keep them. Joshua is a must. Give him 3 mill get it done. Lindholm would be great, it might take a long contract we regret. Zadarov would be great but we can't give him 6 mill. Too keep these 3 players you are looking at 15 mill of cap space.
You still need Hronek or another right shot dman to play with Hughes, that is around 7 mill. Myers will resign for about 3 Mill. That 25 mill of our 26.278 mill. Unless we can move Mikheyev that doesn't leave enough. We would still need a few entry levels and a decent right shooting right wing to play with Petty.
Brandon Dillion Saves us atleast 4 million. Move Mikheyev some how and we have and 9 million.
yeah lmao, rienhart isnt getting more then 8 mil on flo. even free agency hed max get 8.5-9.
From a Bs fan, JD has been good the past couple years, he’s been dealing with injuries a during those two seasons. BUT, when he has been healthy he is the most streaky player in the NHL, he will go on a 10 game tear then go basically scoreless for 15+ games for literally no reason. That’s not worth 6mil in my and a lot of other Bs fans eyes. He’s a worse version of Marchessault if that makes sense. He’s worth at most 5.5mil per. He has always had the potential to score 60+ pts a year and yet he falls short every year, and that’s because he is too streaky. If I’m spending 6mil I’d rather pay someone like Marchessault. For like 3-4 years.
If Kyle Dubas is signing them for Pittsburgh, pick over for any of them! It's the safest bet you'll make all year.
lmao everyone is overvaluing every FA
Maybe, but with cap going up and probably gonna continue to do so, you have to kinda reframe your thinking on value for players.
@@dtmuffinman “cap going up” means nothing if every player gets 1-3 million more than they’re worth
@@edited1325that’s how it works. When the cap goes up, players get paid more.
@@drewruff410 and that’s the issue with the league too many mid players making 5+ million
That’s kinda how free agency works
Stammer 8 mil
Hronek 6x6
Reinhart has 1 hot season and suddenly he's worth 11mil ?? NAH
he’s always been good but definitely not worth 11
Reinhart is NOT worth 11.5 mil 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Maybe 7.
Stutzle is a lot better then Raymond played injured the whole season and still had just as good of production and stutzle is a center and Raymond is a winger.. bad take
No shot Reinhart is getting anywhere near 11.5 mill, try close to 7.5
You got any RFA 50+ goal comparables for 7.5 million?
Man, all of these were brutal..
I agree with Reinhart and expect (and hope) he re-signs for less/equal to Barky and Chucky, but even with that team-friendly deal, I don't see how the Panthers can still afford an over for Montour at that point.
Well I won't be tuning into that stream I can tell you that
Let’s hope it doesn’t come to this
@@OhNyquist I do agree with you tho. He's not getting that much money
I feel like if Drouin went to the open market he might get even 3-5 million but I'm thinking he takes a paycut to stay in colorado
Tbf Samsonov was one of the leagues best goalies after January
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Gunentzel is under. Prob a 6 x 6😊
He’ll get more
If he was only looking for 6. Pittsburgh wouldn't have traded him.
He's getting 8x8, and there are teams willing to give him that
@@Eric.43 it's not possible.
8x8 would be crazy but I bet it happens
It's not "Patty" Kane it's "Paddy" which is short for Patrick. It's irish. Patty is a girl's name! Get a clue.
Over on debrusk!!!!????? What are you smoking!!!! Unless he plays with your best players hes trash and throws BFs about it....
Delusional