Which CARBIDE Demolition Sawzall Blade is Best? Let's find out!
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- Опубликовано: 13 янв 2019
- The Milwaukee Axe, Diablo, and Lenox carbide tooth blades competed against each other to determine their strengths and weaknesses. All of the carbide tooth demolition sawzall blades seemed to do very well compared to the bimetal blades previously tested. In the next and final video on sawzall blades, the "thick steel" carbide blades will compete against each other. Hope you enjoy the video and thank you very much for supporting the channel by watching the commercials and through Patreon support. / projectfarm
Sawzall episodes:
Episode 1: • Which BiMetal Sawzall ...
Episode 2: • Which CARBIDE Demoliti...
Episode 4: • Which Demolition Sawza...
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Carbide blades are simply amazing! Thank you for all you the video ideas!
Milwaukee Axe: amzn.to/3hm9m5M
Diablo: amzn.to/2FFOQyS
Lenox: www.lenoxtools.com/pages/lenox-demolition-ct-carbide-tipped-reciprocating-saw-blades.aspx
Can you do a similar test with cut off wheels? I think it would be interested to see which would last the longest.
Can you do a part two with other brands such as dewalt Bosch or craftsman
At menards i beleave they sell a blade called (fire rescue) or something like that. Try that one. Its like $30 for 3 blades.
Not related to this, but I would like to see a test on the holding power of screws driven vertically versus diagonally. Specifically, I would like to see the difference of two screws driven at opposite diagonals versus two screws driven perpendicularly to the wood. I think there would be a question of pull out versus shear strength particularly with the newer structural screws.
the lenox hit a knot in the wood thats why it took longer
You know you are doing something right when you have almost half a million subscribers and no shilling of crappy products. Your editing is getting better and your presentations have improved as well, thanks for the videos and keep'em coming.
Thanks for the positive comments!
I wish they didn't even bother painting the blades... Maybe they should just stamp their logo onto them? New test idea: normal blades vs paint-stripped blades.
I'm in agreement with that.
I agree! Thank you!
I suspect the freud one might be something like epoxy as it seems to have a very high wear resistance and heat resistance as well. Even used circular saw blades of theirs still have a great color to them.
*Rust has entered the chat* haha I'm gonna stop you right there
Laser etch 'em.
Great testing Todd! You're saving people a lot of money with your videos. Chainsaw blades next? :-)
Hi Doug, Thank you very much! I really enjoyed your latest video! Also, thanks for the great test idea!
electronicsNmore Or maybe you could do cutting wheels in a similar fashion.
i've also been asking for chainsaw chains, still want to see it! glad to see i'm not the only one interested in that.
@@simojuu He's a very busy guy. A lot of work goes into making these testing videos.....I'm sure in time you'll see a video.
Chainsaw ChainsawChainsaw!!!
You are almost at 500k! Been subbed since less than 100k your content is awesome you tell it as it is thanks projectfarm!
Thank you very much!
Hey buddy, I love to see your enthusiasm! I cant wait to see my fav channel get 500k and then 1m, what can we do? oh wait I know ;-(), it takes some time, but hey, lets show this cat how grate-full we are. nice comment, I have been watching this dude for a long time and his tests and awesome-ness has not changed. keep up the love bro ;-) . . ...... ....... . ..
Been here since 75k. Og squad
ive been subbed since he only had 2000 subs
original 10k here..i remember way back in the day trying to figure out why this channel didn't have more subs.. i think his first seafoam video has well over 6m views now.. but then again our mentally retarded culture would rather watch the ignorance and idiocy of pewdiepie than something like these epic videos with depth and learning.
Edit: its 2:35am and i just realized i combined multiple thoughts in one sentence.. i might remember to fix it tomorrow.. LOL
Can you test these same three blades on galvanized and cast iron pipe? As a plumber I find myself cutting these often when a grinder can't reach the tough spots. i swear by my carbide tipped Diablo but it would be nice to know if ive been wasting my money or not.
Great recommendation! The next video on the "thick steel" carbide blades will include cutting pipe and spring steel. I'll try to get that video out later this week or over the weekend. Thanks again!
I love the diablo for cutting cast iron
Milwaukee makes a special cast iron blade with diamond grit, it actually has no teeth at all. perhaps you are aware already but perhaps also the product isn't available around you. i don't know the price of them but i would assume they're not cheap either
@@alexwilcox9559 ive used those but in my experience they arent very good. The only use i could see is getting a line started before switching to a real cutting blade but maybe i didnt use it right. But ive never been a fan of those
@@lloydparlee5774 honestly i feel like the blades are still a hit and miss, i feel some perform better than others, but then again some of the cast i cut out is obviously in better shape than others. snap cutters are absolutely the way to go but there are always those occasions that you simply cannot fit in the cutters, and a sawzall will have to do. i've worked on single cuts of 3" pipe that has taken me half an hour, but it was the only way to make it work with an MJ. the blade is also obviously toast afterwards too
Also I appreciate how you take productive time out of your day to look through the comments and respond with positive feedback I truly appreciate this channel and you.
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Your videos are always a must watch when they come out. I really love how you show your testing methodology and are always open to constructive criticism and retesting things with a different method or purpose. You are the best channel on youtube with all of the tests you do.
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I just found out channel recently and I'm very impressed! Really good entertaining videos, and very useful information.
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Another great video, I appreciate the time you take editing and keeping to the point! Thanks
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wow, nice, someone who actually compliments the editor on his HARD work, only being a audiologists I know how how hard editing can be, this guy rocks! have you ever seen a better channel? no seriously, have you? I haven't, I hope and pray; al-most nite-ly, people like this help save the human race, oh oh, its gott-n serious sorry, as I know as a Jack-Christian; Jesus is coming back one day to re-claim what is already his, the world is so full of - "-" ""tive-ness"", but not here bro! love ya, take care, keep up the awesome comments! I mean compliments, we all need to lift each other up! as we are ALL family.
To be honest I dont actually do none of this things but your previous video was "recommended" for me so I kept watching you just in case and I like all the info you tell us as well 🙂
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These are such great, to the point, no BS videos of head-to-head tests. I love it. Keep up the great work!
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Another well thought out test of commonly used blades/materials. Thank you so much for continuing to provide such good content. You've done so many things it's getting harder to come up with things for you to test!
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Thank you for all your videos I watch them every time it comes out and have even used some product based on your test
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Would you consider testing dry wall anchors? perhaps the Toggler type, the plastic screw type, Wall Dogs, etc. possible tests could be the force it takes to pull out, how much hanging load they can take. maybe even how deep of a shelf they can hold at a given weight? does that fit into the scope of what you'd consider doing?
This is a terrific idea! I recently built a piece of test equipment that'll be perfect for this!
Great idea!!
Dont ever use the plastic screw ones.
I love the EZ anchors (the plastic screw type).
Great Idea!
Just wanted to say good job on your testing and your videos. People like you add huge value to RUclips! Thank you!
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Nice work as always. I like how you make a very good effort to take the test variation out of the equation and I appreciate the fact that there is actually a recommendation. Most reviews are simply "they're all ok, pick one that's best for you".
Nice work. Keep it up.
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I love your attention to detail and consistency. I've started coming to check your videos before buying any kind of consumables like blades or glue, etc.
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I started a list on my phone of all the recommended products and what they are for.
You testing and test results are amazing. The video editing and time consumption must be atrocious. But you are able to stay on point and prove your points. I love your videos and the comparison to each test results you show. Thank again for another great video....
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Thank you man. I'm a mechanic and own my own shop so you help me make decisions on a lot of products. In the 2 years since I've discovered your channel you've saved me hundreds of dollars if not a thousand and I really appreciate you. I've returned the favor on patreon. Thanks again.
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Love the video's and the way you do things. very refreshing compared to the extremely unscientific tests that alot of the other tool channels do. Your weighted setup is great!
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Your videos are the best thing about Mondays haha. Keep up the good work!
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I don't use blade saws much but the video as still entertaining and usual. Your ability to find neutral and consistent tests for a variety of products always intrigues me. Well done!
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I do love your video's that you do. These are the tests I wish I had the time and money to do. It's defs informing this consumer on the different brands out there. Thank you for all of this!!
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Ive had drywall screws chew up a cheap phillips head on me before. That could be more content, abusing brands of drill bits.
Thank you for the video idea!
Great idea, I was thinking about that awhile ago when I noticed huge amount of wear differences from different sets I've bought. I wonder if the impact rated bits are truly better, too.
YES!!!!! And the same with metal/wood drills. Who makes a better drilling bit.
@@FishFind3000 I've been googling that up lately and there is a brand of bits called Norseman that supposedly the last set you'll ever own (though if you're like therest of us you'll still accidentally snap those thin bits) for about a hundred for a standard 29 pc set. I'd like to see them tested before I buy them, though.
On the other hand, its easier to replace the bit than remove a stripped screw. Generally I want the bit to be just a little softer than the screw.
I just want to say. You do an excellent job of layman’s testing. You really have a passion for it and it’s enjoyable to watch. I’ve used your findings to make decisions on products a few times. Keep it up and stay independent.
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Keep up the great work! I really enjoy and appreciate all the time and effort you put into these videos!
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Thank you for making these awesome videos! Honest, to the point, informative! I think ive watched all at least twice.
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5:28 i think the proper term is "schmoo"
You are right!
@@ProjectFarm plz test drywall anchors
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Not skookum!
I just have to say thats what my only best friend; calls his only son, so nice. take care. do I know You? hmmmmmm?
I want to see a test with different types of drill bits against some metal plate. Also carbide bits vs hardened steel.
Thank you for the video idea!
@@ProjectFarm throw in some cobalt drills too!
@@ProjectFarm its a great idea...
You'll have to build some kind of jig to add weight to the drill or you can just have a weight hanging from the drill press lever
Simply the best Poor mans "power feed" :D
@@simplythebest4341 the most important part about that test would be the edge geometry
You devised an excellent testing method and gave a great analysis on blade design and manufacturing. The discussion about paint causing the friction was brilliant! We might be seeing teflon coated blades appearing on the market in the near future.
Thank you! I hope they do something. They're made to look fancy to boost sales, but when spending $15 on a blade, the paint shouldn't be hindering the blade. Thanks again!
I so enjoy your documentaries! Epic test setups and so very informative! Please, keep them comparison videos coming :)
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There's a ant or baby termite on the apple log 3:33 lol
lol. I think the ant survived!
NO ANTS OR TERMITES WERE HARMED IN THE MAKING OF THIS VIDEO!
Bonus style points for the ants on the Brain Fruit (what we call Osage Orange in PA)
I think 13 people took umbrage to the fact there were termites shown without warning :)
Moisture ants caused the damage. I'm a bug guy
I’m a Milwaukee fan boy but I can’t lie diablo is a beast
I like Milwaukee tools a lot too!
Another excellent and informative non biased video from one of my favorite youtube channels! The idea of cutting through pipe and spring steel will be an interesting test! Looking forward to that video.
Thank you! I'll try to get it posted by this weekend for sure. Thanks again!
THank you so much. You are doing an incredible service to the entire community.
Thanks and you are welcome!
The top of the nail is the hardened part. I'm a carpenter my saw blade can go through the side with ease its when I hit the top of the blade teeth break.
Great point! Thank you
Nice to know, thanks!
I dunno, I went through hardened wood screws no problem with my evolution nail safe blade without issue, threaded section of a drywall screw stopped it dead in its tracks though.Might depend on brand perhas, that or UK ones are hardened more maybe...
This actually helped me purchase the right saw blade for me! Thanks
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Great review. Out of all of my youtube channel subscriptions, yours is my favorite. I really look forward to your vids. Thanks.
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These tests and comparisons are really useful. Thanks for taking the time to do this.
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Who else has been waiting for this video?!?! :D
Sorry for the delay on this one. Thank you
@@ProjectFarm carpentry is boring lol. Anything w a motor gas powered test I'm all about it.. Great video as always anyway..
I like carpentry and PF!
Me! I recommend this a wail ago.
me dude, me dude, me, OMG do you just love this guys channel? hes so smart and through, no not through, like through it I became...., no like completes his goals and is through, dam, cant spell dude, please help.
Thanks for the video! Helped me learn, and make a informed decision before purchasing. I went Milwaukee because Diablo never has any reciprocating saw blades in a kit on sale. Home Depot has the Milwaukee sets for $15 including 10 different blades plus 5 free demo blades. Waiting for Diablo to step up the kits at the local home centers..
Thank you for the feedback
Another awesome video by Todd, you got my support on patreon, and you make excellent gear head oriented videos, thanks man, Makes my day after a long day of driving 450 miles in a semi.
Thank you very much for supporting the channel and thanks for the positive comment!
Brother, nice video and test set up. Very impressive how much thought you put into each test design to be as unbiased as possible and quantitative. I’ve been thinking for awhile about becoming a contributor, now I’m going to do it. Keep up the good work.
Thanks so much!
Awesome test as always! I have a suggestion though- I think it would be interesting for you to use your Kill A Watt to measure the power draw of the saw with each of the blades. More power draw means that the saw motor is under more load. I don't know how useful that information would be, but in my opinion, it would be interesting to see the difference.
Great recommendation! Thank you
You are amazing, great work on these videos. Still have my hopes hanging on a website with all this data, searchable, so when I want to buy the best glue for PVC or the best blade for metal, or the best rechargeable battery for $$ I can find it :) Thanks from my farm to yours!
Thank you!
This is an excellent idea
That is a fantastic idea! No flashy reviews or sponsorships, just categories of things with the best in class displayed
Great ideas.
Great idea. I'd be satisfied if it was a site that only featured the bar graph results of each topic and maybe an embedded video.
@Project Farm great video! You're giving us quality and educated information, these are wonderful for the consumer. Keep it up!
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Great job testing these demolition blades, Diablo and Lenox seemed to do pretty well. Great video as always Project Farm!
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Next test. Which saw blade will cut through the other saw blades
Thank you for the video idea!
The newest!
that hedge apple / post is like cutting through steel! guess thats why they called it hardwood :) definately diablo in my mind. i don't think we get them over here in Aus though. The steel one couldn't come fast enough i have to cut thru a car in a few days so I hope its up soon PF. ta buddy
Thank you! Yes, those hedge posts are incredibly tough and strong!
@@ProjectFarm I remember bending nails as a kid trying to hammer into hardwood :)
I'll bet the Lenox steel carbide blade will be the winner in car cutting . Unibody cars are fairly easy to cut up with a sawzall, even with just a plain old metal cutting blade. I was amazed at how quick a car could be cut into pieces with just a sawzall.
Marcel LeMay ha ha. Yes, I have done this as well. My buddy had a junk 86 bmw. I don’t think it took a whole hour to have it in small enough pieces to load in the back of a truck.
You can get both Demo Demon and Steel Demon Diablo blades from Total Tools. They arnt cheap however.
And for cutting up cars normal bi metal blades work great. Until you hit one of the Boron steel reinforcements in the A pillars or similar.
Loved the vid. Always a level playing field and side by side comparison. Clear results.
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Your videos are the best part of my week! Thanks for all that you do!
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Another great and interesting Test. Until now buying Sawzall blades for me was like a box of chocolates, ya never know what you are going to get.
Have you thought of doing a Test of Cordless Rotary Tools? I don't think my Dremel is the best especially in battery life.
Thank you for the video idea!
Sure would appreciate a test to determine which hot glue is best ?
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Great idea. Different types of hot glue might be useful for different applications, too...some are more "gummy" while others are harder.
Really enjoy your testing. Keep up the good work. I appreciate the lengths you go to make sure everything is fair.
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Always impressed with your tests. So interesting and fun to watch. You do a great job.
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Are you going to test the diamond grit pipe cutting sawzall blades?
I will if there's enough interest. Thanks again!
Another great test.
Will you be revealing how you got the paint off the one blade in prior video?
Would be interesting to see a new test with all blades stripped.
Thank you. I used acetone. The paint on the Lenox came off easily. The paint on the Milwaukee was a bit more stubborn. The "coating" on the Diablo didn't come off from exposure to acetone, nor does it need to be removed. In my opinion, it's the only coating that actually improves blade performance.
absolutely love these comparison videos, keep up the great work!
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Man, kick ass video as always. I smile every time I see your notifications. I tell you I have learned many things from you. I also enjoy the fun vids like monster energy for fuel.
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PF,
I’m really liking that Diablo blade especially the fact that it says made in USA on it ! Lennox is good to. Really looking forward to the carbide videos. How is Montana ? That’s orange wood you cut is like our oak but stands up Like our cedar I think. Correct me if I’m wrong. Another great video excellent editing Much great time and thought put into each video my favorite channel
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Hi Mike, Thank you very much! Those are both great blades and I'd buy either one of them for specific applications. Diablo for speed and Lenox for drywall screws and other metal. It's hard to find a strait branch on an osage orange tree. They are also full of sharp thorns. I've been trimming back dozens of them over the past month. I've spent a lot of time sharpening chainsaw chains too. lol. Best regards, Todd
That osage orange is much tougher than oak, google it up. It burns so hot its even been known to burn holes right through a cast iron wood stove!
I just remembered we have one like it called Ironwood though hornbeam is its botanical name. Insanely tough stuff it is!
The Diablo blades are made in Switzerland
FireBarrels Did you not watch the video ? watch it again The red Diablo blade says made in USA right on the back of it upside down pay attention. They are not made in Switzerland.
Future video: Testing drill bits. Titanium coated, vs Cobalt vs Molybdenum vs HSS.
Thank you for the video idea!
This is one of the most informative channels on RUclips. I watch every episode!
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This test was great. Spring is coming and I have some thick hedges to prune and this is just what I needed to know. I knew you’d have something on reciprocating saw blades. You’re a valuable resource for information. Please keep going. When I cut wood I keep a can of spray lube, like silicone etc., and periodically spray the blade. It seems to help quite a bit.
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As uncommon as it sounds, I'd love to see how some of these blades would hold up if they had their paint stripped.
Thank you for the video idea!
Do best denim brand strength
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I love your videos! One of my favorite days during the remodeling of my house was when I discovered Diablo blades for the recip saw. I used the really long blades to cut nails underneath a 2x4 wall. This required me to bend the blade and ease it under the wall. Lesser blades always broke from the bending and I went through lots. Then I found the Diablo and they didn't care how far I bent them. They just kept on cutting without breaking.
Impressive! Projects are actually fun with the right tools!
Favorite videos of my subscriptions, always happy to see an upload!
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Moral of the story.
Buy Diablo
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. .. ... or the "L" brand ;-)
@@andyp3834 dont you dare say the L word!!!
@@thenumerousfew1205 LENNOX! lol,hey, you know already, you gets whats you gets! or you gets what you pay for! LOL, love it, soon as I get rich-enough I am going to splurge! I am going to get a ,a, ,,...., a.., Pay-Pal account, OMG sorry, I saw the results, if I didn't type for a living and was still in-stalling German designed hard wood-floors, I'd be kick-n-it! dun dun dun, you wake for late for school man and you dont want to go, you ask your mom please? and she still says "NO" dun dun dun. sorry, some beast-ty boy-s.
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Try using gear oil as engine oil in a warn engine to stop smoking
So close
Thank you for the video idea!
Not to sound too sappy. The osage orange brought back a flood of memories. I grew up relatively poor in rural Illinois about 2 hours south of Chicago. We heated our house with 5-7 cords of wood in the winter and my old man used to hunt that osage orange down to burn, as it put off so much heat. Miss those days and miss my dad. Hated cutting and splitting all of that wood, now I miss it...
Thanks for sharing!
2 years later, this video was all the help I needed...Thanks 👍
You are welcome!
I so enjoy your comparison testings you truly are presenting what we're all thinking about as we stand in our local purveyor of supplies thank you so much for doing what you doing keep it up love your videos just hit the Bell cuz I can't get enough Keep On Keepin On
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Man, I can’t believe you’re almost to 500k subscribers! I remember back when you had 30k! I’m so happy for the success of your channel!
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The paint on the Diablo blade is similar to the paint they use on railroad cars. It's pretty solid stuff. Great point noticing the gumming up of the paint as well as the excess heat it generates. I see it all the time on my blades. Now I have a good reason to stick with diablo.
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Thank you for doing your videos. I really enjoy your work and hope you keep up the good work! Thank you!
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This is some quality content right here. Thank you Project Farm
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I never clicked the thumbs up on purpose for anyone
Untill now. You deserve it man
Thanks, your common sense designing your videos they really help me making decisions. You have a quality many other Americans have they share their knowledge, but you share with thousands. Thanks for your time never miss one Bill N from LI NY
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I loooooove this channel and how it keeps thing simple yet highly effective comparisons.
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These videos are awesome !!!! Definitely have used your blade videos for making personal choices myself and boy I’m glad I watched your videos prior to purchase because I certainly would have bought the wrong blade. Thanks again and keep these videos coming !!!
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Thank you so much! This will save me time and energy if I ever have to do this in the future!
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Your videos are so good! I'm really envious of your sweet shop, but even though I only have a dusty old 8x12 shed your content makes me want to go out there and wrench on my tools :D
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I am so glad to see your channel growing and your video catalog expanding. Keep up the good work ! Maybe for a future video you could test a host of bow saw blades. Just the blades though, often the manufacturers metal holder under preforms and lets down a blade. I recommend buying all the same length of blade and making a quick wooden bushcrafters bow saw. It is 4 pieces of wood and some rope, it also allows you to tension the blades better and adjust tension as the blade stretches. That way they can all be tested on the same saw to make it more scientific.
Thank you for the video idea!
I absolutely *_love_* the fast jigs you design for sawzall blade and lubricity testing. While your jigs may or may not be the _best_ ways to test, they appear to be fair and unbiased.
You even went so far as to retest the apple wood slice to ensure fairness.
Keep up the good work!
Thank you very much!!
sorry I missed the first test, you do great unbiased work here and I appreciate it. could you leave a link somewhere in the video or description for previous videos in series like this please and thank you!
Thank you very much! Great recommendation on the links too.
Thank you very much. This series gave me a lot of useful information.
Great to hear! Thanks for watching.
Extremely informative for different uses. Will definitely keep this in mind.
Thank you
Love your videos, and you do a great job presenting them. Thank you.
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I always love your tests. You do a great job. Thanks
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I love all your videos, they are always very helpful to me!
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I appreciate your proffesionalism and that you didn't force a 10min video to get mid rolls👍
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Thank you Todd. Your methods are rock solid.
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FOR SCIENCE!!!
Thank you for all the time and work you put into these tests, great info that is always interesting and educational.
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Project Farm has become the Consumer Reports of the garage. I've seen items on Amazon reviews saying "recommended by Project Farm". So, you doin it right my friend.
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Ooooh, I really like that showing side by side. Finally we can get a clear understanding of who the winners are. Do this is more videos please!!!
Thanks! Thanks for the feedback.
I love your channel, very fair testing keep up the good work!
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Great unbiased content as always! Look forward to the next!
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Another great day on the Project Farm. Great video!
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Best blade for the job . . . an interesting concept. I learned the value of this idea when I switched from a regular power handsaw blade to a carbide tipped blade. What a huge difference. From that time on I've been paying attention to the blade/job combination.
Great point and thank you!