Hi, some update and note regarding this video 1. Jane / Seth / Grace video is not uploaded, i recorded the run but i am not satisfied with the recordings, they work well but the team is more difficult than other teams, there's so much thing i need to keep attention to resulting in i keep making mistakes and missing some buffs/debuffs resulting in non optimal run and slower clear. After hours of trying i decided to not upload it because it will make the team bad in comparison with other teams because of my skill issue with playing the comp 2. You can disregard what i said/write about passive on Jane/Seth/Piper Dual Assault part. The synergy passive works on entire team (my brain fried during editing and recordings) 3. I didn't know Jane / Seth / Anby is one of popular team choice. I tried them and i'll write it here. Clear time and difficulty is pretty much same as Jane / Seth / Koleda team with about 65 - 70 seconds. Anby team stuns a little bit slower but able to trigger disorders
The first CC I've seen that actually gave the Piper team variant an actual review, while everyone else just dismissed it as "unviable" immediately without even trying. Thanks so much
Most CCs aren’t good enough at the game to manage their field time effectively either, but I personally have been dismissing this comp mostly because of how it feels to play compared to other teams
That's one of the best showcase videos i ever seem, while also being piloted by a very good player? Please share wherever you can, you deserve the viewer's. Really great stuff.
Except Piper synergy passive IS activated with Jane/Piper/Seth. Piper just needs another physical character which Jane is, so Piper's buff is active. You can even see its little icon on the top left.
Very good showcase, thanks. I'm going to try Jane, Seth, Lucy in some Shiyu stages. I have Lucy lvl 40 M3 and her w-engine, I'll level up her core and I think that should be enough to put her on field
Jane with Grace is actually not very good. It's not that the damage is bad, but it's quite confusing when you have 2 different anomaly DPS in one team. You can check the Jane/Grace/Rina part of the video. It basically said the same thing
I tried it but i am not satisfied with all my runs so i use Jane Rina Grace instead The team damage is surely good if properly utilized but it's pretty hard for me to maximize the damage, sometimes my mind went blank mid run because there's so much going on between focusing on seth buffs + debuffs, jane and grace gameplay while dodging. I think you can try the team comp in current HIA event as trial character
Experienced the same thing with a Jane/Seth/Anby comp with Seth on anomaly build. Managing multiple anomaly meters and both anomaly agents requiring field time and differing inputs/mechanics demands more attention and makes you more prone to more mistakes. It was a lot easier when I built Seth as a secondary stunner for Anby.
I'm playing it, it's difficult but at least it's different from playing always the same style (stun, apply buff with support and destroy with DPS). It also improves you as a player, I feel like I started to play better playing that team
New update! Ithink the new disc drives for Burnice can be equipped to Grace for a Jane team. Can't say for sure though, but it will definitely change her gameplay
Finally someone playing the seth/rina team properly 😭😭 You have no idea how much I've been pulling my hair out watching people not even swap to rina or weaving in attacks before an assault proc. Glad to see Rina stonks going up
Stay strong until the livestream, brother. Once we see the trailer, we will get our Calydon hype going up, and we will leave Jane as a ghost from a past
@@KingDarkness100 Im planning Jane, Seth, Caesar, or Zhu Yuan, Caesar, Nicole. Honestly I dont really care about meta and stuff, Im just anti skinny girl character lol.
just got rina off my standard banner yesterday but not so sure ima go for it, managing rina's bangboos seems really annoying and lucy's EX launching piglets is just so fun and deadly might consider it if the game curses me with another rina for M1
How would Caesar fit in Jane team, who does she replace, Seth? My Rina is at C1 and Lucy at C6 so both of them feel pretty good to use currently with Jane and Seth core.
I tried them but i am not satisfied with how my recordings of their run came out. Not because the team is bad but it's because they are much harder than other teams. I keep making mistakes on while running Jane Seth Grace team which will make them look bad if i upload them and after hours of trying and i decided to just upload Jane Rina Grace instead.
I feel like you're underestimating the difficulty of the Rina teams as her buff only lasts for a short time on the field, meaning you have to be switching off Jane a lot to keep it up 100%. Do you think it's better only to use it during the burst windows to make it easier to play?
@@SmashTheAdam Yeah though for anomaly/disorders what matters is the stats during the anomaly-buildup period. Stats during trigger don't matter. But the build up after that trigger would be buffed.
@@SmashTheAdam Yeah it's an interesting mechanic, basically the anomaly strength is added up as the bar is accumulated so what matters is your stats during accumulation. Lots of hidden stuff like that in this game!
Hum, I have both Piper and Lucy very well invested, and I intend to hunt their mindscapes. So the best choice is clear: skip Jane and pull for Caesar and Burnice.
Piper doesn't lose her passive in the Jane/Seth/Piper build right? It's just that she doesn't get buffed like in the Lucy build since Seth only buffs the character with his shield aka Jane. Or am I understanding something wrong?
Actually, after you reach 375 AP, you can straight up use atk% disk 4, the main reason people stack full AP is not only to cap her atk bonus, AP multiplies your anomaly per 100, so 420 means x4.2, plus we're also planning to kick Seth out of the team once Caesar & Burnice drops, so yea its better to stack AP as high as possible on Jane rn.
@@Mikoto86 Yes. Rina is also a little bit harder to build because you need to have decent anomaly profiency substats on your swing jazz set. Support Lucy just needs atk main stats on 456 disc drives and can get away with lower level requirements. Rina preferably wants to have max level otherwise if she contributes too much anomaly then shock/disorder then it would do less damage.
what are those unrealistic stats. I have the exact same set up and multiple or a lot of rolls into anomaly proficiency and att% on ALL disks and im sitting at 2300 attack and 383 anomaly proficiency....you have 6 more proficiency rolls minimum and more att% rolls....
@@bibitapel okay thanks. I was worried bp weapon won’t have up time because assault isn’t an anomaly that leaves a lasting effect on enemy unlike shock or burn. I already have my bp weapon leveled up and it’s r2 so I will keep it for now. Resources are tight and I’m completely out of weapon exp again haha. Do you plan to get Jane signature some day? Or saving for new units instead? I am thinking to get Caesar but not sure who she will replace in Jane team, what do you think? Maybe it will be Jane Seth and Caesar?
@@bibitapel I was testing rainforest today - I can't get 10 stacks. Jane can't generate enough energy for a second EX attack before the stacks wears off from the first one.
that 100 anomaly proficiency is huge It's also useful to have a defender that can assist backwards as it allows more comfortable rotations than 2 supports
If you have her Wengine, AM on 6th slot, and over 400 AP, then he's free to go, really. His main role is not to provide that 100 AP (yes that is good, hear me out), but to shred 20% anomaly buildup & activate 20% anomaly buildup buff on Jane's additional core ability. In fact, you're not getting that 100 unless you level him up to 60
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Hi, some update and note regarding this video
1. Jane / Seth / Grace video is not uploaded, i recorded the run but i am not satisfied with the recordings, they work well but the team is more difficult than other teams, there's so much thing i need to keep attention to resulting in i keep making mistakes and missing some buffs/debuffs resulting in non optimal run and slower clear. After hours of trying i decided to not upload it because it will make the team bad in comparison with other teams because of my skill issue with playing the comp
2. You can disregard what i said/write about passive on Jane/Seth/Piper Dual Assault part. The synergy passive works on entire team (my brain fried during editing and recordings)
3. I didn't know Jane / Seth / Anby is one of popular team choice. I tried them and i'll write it here. Clear time and difficulty is pretty much same as Jane / Seth / Koleda team with about 65 - 70 seconds. Anby team stuns a little bit slower but able to trigger disorders
The first CC I've seen that actually gave the Piper team variant an actual review, while everyone else just dismissed it as "unviable" immediately without even trying. Thanks so much
Most CCs aren’t good enough at the game to manage their field time effectively either, but I personally have been dismissing this comp mostly because of how it feels to play compared to other teams
That's one of the best showcase videos i ever seem, while also being piloted by a very good player? Please share wherever you can, you deserve the viewer's. Really great stuff.
Except Piper synergy passive IS activated with Jane/Piper/Seth. Piper just needs another physical character which Jane is, so Piper's buff is active. You can even see its little icon on the top left.
The thumbnails are so cute. Definitely my favorite part
That is a lot of teams to show how jane works on
Wow just what I was looking for. Thanks!
I love the editing of this video. Great work!
This type of showcase are amazing! Keep It up man!
perfect gameplay and comparison. Just what I wanted to see
This is awesome, thanks so much for trying out a bunch of different comps and sharing your thoughts.
Crazy dedication right here👍
EOD Gamer brought me here good stuff, subscribed!
This is some godly gameplay. I didn't even pay attention to some of the things you point out I can't lie. I was trying to learn those sick rotations
i like your videos,they’re pretty swag
Meanwhile, me playing jane nekomata piper, throw 3 fanged metal sets on them and don't care about rotation 👁👄👁
Muy buen video, me encanto las variantes de equipo y tu habilidad al jugar
Thanks for the showcase. Ive been having fun playing Jane, Nicole, Zhu Yuan
Very good showcase, thanks. I'm going to try Jane, Seth, Lucy in some Shiyu stages. I have Lucy lvl 40 M3 and her w-engine, I'll level up her core and I think that should be enough to put her on field
I could be wrong, but I think Lucy mostly wants her skill upgraded, because her buffs scale on the skill level. But again, I could be wrong!
@@otakugamer6933 I'm also upgrading her skills! I'm aware that supports benefit a lot from upgrading skills
Got my like, keep the content coming similar to this. Very informative and enjoyable to watch, I hope your channel prospers.
ty so much !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What about Jane Seth and Grace, that's the team comp I was looking forward to 😢
Jane with Grace is actually not very good. It's not that the damage is bad, but it's quite confusing when you have 2 different anomaly DPS in one team.
You can check the Jane/Grace/Rina part of the video. It basically said the same thing
I tried it but i am not satisfied with all my runs so i use Jane Rina Grace instead
The team damage is surely good if properly utilized but it's pretty hard for me to maximize the damage, sometimes my mind went blank mid run because there's so much going on between focusing on seth buffs + debuffs, jane and grace gameplay while dodging. I think you can try the team comp in current HIA event as trial character
Experienced the same thing with a Jane/Seth/Anby comp with Seth on anomaly build. Managing multiple anomaly meters and both anomaly agents requiring field time and differing inputs/mechanics demands more attention and makes you more prone to more mistakes. It was a lot easier when I built Seth as a secondary stunner for Anby.
I'm playing it, it's difficult but at least it's different from playing always the same style (stun, apply buff with support and destroy with DPS). It also improves you as a player, I feel like I started to play better playing that team
New update! Ithink the new disc drives for Burnice can be equipped to Grace for a Jane team. Can't say for sure though, but it will definitely change her gameplay
Finally someone playing the seth/rina team properly 😭😭
You have no idea how much I've been pulling my hair out watching people not even swap to rina or weaving in attacks before an assault proc. Glad to see Rina stonks going up
I’m using Grace Jane and Seth. It feels very fun to play having to switch to different characters
Every fiber in my body is telling me not to pull for Jane I’m saving for Caesar
Stay strong until the livestream, brother. Once we see the trailer, we will get our Calydon hype going up, and we will leave Jane as a ghost from a past
Your not alone brother. The Sons of Calydon train will be here soon, hold out!
@@ardyisdeniralg9147 Yea i dont think Jane will be "a ghost from the past" any time soon lmao if anything Ceasar will make her even more op 😂
@@ardyisdeniralg9147 higher chance of Caesar falling into that category the moment they release the first S rank support
@@KingDarkness100 Im planning Jane, Seth, Caesar, or Zhu Yuan, Caesar, Nicole. Honestly I dont really care about meta and stuff, Im just anti skinny girl character lol.
Now we wait for a limited support unit. I bet they will be broken af
I wait for the team Jane, Lucy/Caesar, Burnice it’s can be very powerful
How’d you forget about the Jane, Seth, Grace line up in this video?
Man how am I not lucky enough to get that munchkin engine?
Very good content
Very cool
just got rina off my standard banner yesterday but not so sure ima go for it, managing rina's bangboos seems really annoying and lucy's EX launching piglets is just so fun and deadly
might consider it if the game curses me with another rina for M1
Can you do the team review for grace? Please 😊
I see Nicole, i click
What about my girl Anby 😔 Jane, Seth and Anby are literally on the banner pulls
How would Caesar fit in Jane team, who does she replace, Seth? My Rina is at C1 and Lucy at C6 so both of them feel pretty good to use currently with Jane and Seth core.
we dont know ceaser's kit yet, unless she helps with anomaly buff, seth is better
@metal9076 Caesar is in the beta, so we do know her kit, but not sure if this channel talks about leaks. In short, she's a shielder and atk buffer.
Amazing work. Very informative.
Wich build are you using for Seth on those clears? Does him being M6 change anything?
4pc freedom blues and 4pc swing jazz
I change them depending if i have support using 4pc swing jazz or not
What do we think about running Qingyi with Jan doe?? seems like a good comp to me atleast bc of her amazing stunning
Te real teams.
Jane-grace-seth.
Jane-necomata-seth
I was thinking there would be Seth/Grace/Jane team
I tried them but i am not satisfied with how my recordings of their run came out. Not because the team is bad but it's because they are much harder than other teams. I keep making mistakes on while running Jane Seth Grace team which will make them look bad if i upload them and after hours of trying and i decided to just upload Jane Rina Grace instead.
@@bibitapel"i decided to just upload Jane Seth Grace instead" i think you typed the wrong team at the end there...
Thank you for reminding me, i made a mistake
What about jane-seth-anby? The difference between anby and Qingyi is that she doesn't need too much field time.
I feel like you're underestimating the difficulty of the Rina teams as her buff only lasts for a short time on the field, meaning you have to be switching off Jane a lot to keep it up 100%. Do you think it's better only to use it during the burst windows to make it easier to play?
That's kind of what they did on 0:38
They switched to Rina only when the anomaly meter was already filled
@@SmashTheAdam Yeah though for anomaly/disorders what matters is the stats during the anomaly-buildup period. Stats during trigger don't matter. But the build up after that trigger would be buffed.
@@Reda-Ou oh, I didn't know about that
@@SmashTheAdam Yeah it's an interesting mechanic, basically the anomaly strength is added up as the bar is accumulated so what matters is your stats during accumulation. Lots of hidden stuff like that in this game!
Pls make a guide how to defeat thanatos
great stiff, did u try jane seth grace going for the shock proc first and then ham on assault by any chance?
Zhu Yan, Nicole and Jane team. You test?
If I'm using jane seth qingyi, would gemini or gourmet work better?
Hum, I have both Piper and Lucy very well invested, and I intend to hunt their mindscapes. So the best choice is clear: skip Jane and pull for Caesar and Burnice.
how about Jane / Seth / Nekomata ?
Hi! Do you think jane ceaser and lucy would be a good team?
I'm the only one who uses anby
0:38 How can you swap from 1st char to 3rd char? I'm on PS
sorry for OOT.
i have a question, what do you think about energy regen for 6th slot on Grace?
Probably works on disorder comp for more frequent shocks but i still prefer ATK
do you have m1 rina or m0? considering to get rina for my 300 standard soon
How bout jane, seth, anby ?
Is C0 Rina viable for the hypercarry team? Cause her pen bonus only lasts 6.5 seconds.
Wheres the neko team tho
Piper doesn't lose her passive in the Jane/Seth/Piper build right? It's just that she doesn't get buffed like in the Lucy build since Seth only buffs the character with his shield aka Jane. Or am I understanding something wrong?
Great video btw very informative! This was just a question I got after watching.
Oh right, it was my mistake.
What minscape is your Rina here? and her build? thanks
nevermind it looks like this is M1 Rina
Nah man, Jane solo is best team fo sho
I forgot to add Jane solo on the video :(
I hate seth, ao i will play Rina + Lucy on Jane teams
Can i replace Jane with piper/corin / or neomata? For the first team?
3:51 is the first assault dmg counted in stun window or not ?
Yes (hopefully) i always do that with Jane followed with double assault after.
ATK on disc 6 over AM?
Yes, it suit my aggresive playstyle so i choose ATK over AM
how about Jane Seth Grace
why jane need 420 anomaly proficiency?
To cap out her assault crit conversion passive.
@@piemerchant6772 But it doesn t need 420 ap to reach 100% assault crit rate
@@nicoirazza8696 sorry not the crit one, there's another passion state Atk bonus conversion as well.
Actually, after you reach 375 AP, you can straight up use atk% disk 4, the main reason people stack full AP is not only to cap her atk bonus, AP multiplies your anomaly per 100, so 420 means x4.2, plus we're also planning to kick Seth out of the team once Caesar & Burnice drops, so yea its better to stack AP as high as possible on Jane rn.
Does Rina have to be m1 to be useful? I have a m0 Rina and a m2 Lucy. Can't choose on who to use since they are both great
I have m0 rina and her signature weapon but I prefer using lucy instead.
@@airts is it cause Lucy's buff lasts longer and is easier to apply compared to Rina?
@@Mikoto86 Yes. Rina is also a little bit harder to build because you need to have decent anomaly profiency substats on your swing jazz set. Support Lucy just needs atk main stats on 456 disc drives and can get away with lower level requirements. Rina preferably wants to have max level otherwise if she contributes too much anomaly then shock/disorder then it would do less damage.
@@airts hmm thanks for the insight. Have no one else to build atm so might as well sink my time into Rina till 1.3 comes out
@@Mikoto86 I'm also gradually building my rina. I might get her m1 for my 300th.
what are those unrealistic stats. I have the exact same set up and multiple or a lot of rolls into anomaly proficiency and att% on ALL disks and im sitting at 2300 attack and 383 anomaly proficiency....you have 6 more proficiency rolls minimum and more att% rolls....
hi, have you tried teams with anby?
I tried with Anby BIlly and Nicole.
Nicole is best from what i've tried
@@bibitapel ty for the info
Why was Lucy put on the team?🤔
For her 1000 attk buff.
@@LuckT63 I want to ask again, why is piper also included in the team and not anby?🤔
Corin and Jane Doe is Good?
Not really good, they clash with each other as they both want to burst the boss during it's stunned state.
How does the bp weapon compare to rainforest ?
Rainforest is better if you can manage the stacks.
However Bp weapon is more consistent
@@bibitapel okay thanks. I was worried bp weapon won’t have up time because assault isn’t an anomaly that leaves a lasting effect on enemy unlike shock or burn. I already have my bp weapon leveled up and it’s r2 so I will keep it for now. Resources are tight and I’m completely out of weapon exp again haha. Do you plan to get Jane signature some day? Or saving for new units instead? I am thinking to get Caesar but not sure who she will replace in Jane team, what do you think? Maybe it will be Jane Seth and Caesar?
@@bibitapel I was testing rainforest today - I can't get 10 stacks. Jane can't generate enough energy for a second EX attack before the stacks wears off from the first one.
so she's p much stuck with seth lol
that 100 anomaly proficiency is huge
It's also useful to have a defender that can assist backwards as it allows more comfortable rotations than 2 supports
If you have her Wengine, AM on 6th slot, and over 400 AP, then he's free to go, really. His main role is not to provide that 100 AP (yes that is good, hear me out), but to shred 20% anomaly buildup & activate 20% anomaly buildup buff on Jane's additional core ability. In fact, you're not getting that 100 unless you level him up to 60