The Red fight was updated to include four more teams in addition to the one you'll see in this video. For more info: ruclips.net/video/rP83AsDVxSo/видео.html This strategy is working as intended for this particular team of Red's, which you are guaranteed to face the first time you battle him. After that you have a 1/5 chance of facing this team per reset, so it is still very effective for that team. We're working on strategies for the other teams for now, and then hoping for a team that can take care of any of the 5 teams.
Great video! love the "im not patrouski" intro xD Very helpfull and this will definitely help me beat red! Do you think if Dry Skin Toxicroak will be good enough instead of Poli?
Hahahaha thank you, never made a video before and had no idea how to do an intro so thought I'd pay a nod to the 👑 himself. It could definitely work, I just don't know how the AI would react to Toxicroak instead. If you have one and want to test, give it a shot and let me know how it goes!
Definitely not final, but good enough to share for now! going to try to find a Chansey/Scrafty strategy that is equally reliable. But yeah thanks again for that suggestion!
Great video Caav, first time coming across your channel. I gotta say it's very informative, I appreciate the time you put into it I've learned a lot thank you brother!! Just subscribed and thumb'd up!
Thank you! The E4 Poli team is this one: pokepast.es/8c207d46fe076888 Like all E4 strats, it is based on using "baiters" to set up rocks and trick pokemon on a specific move type, and then bringing in a sweeper to set up and sweep (usually with the help of X Speed.) E4 reruns are a very complex beast without specific step-by-step guides. Lots of expensive learning needed as you have to pay for items and you can wipe resulting in all loss and no money gained.
@@caav.pokemmo oh also cant the poliwrath Just run Aqua jet? Shouldnt It kill the espeon After a belly? Cuz idk how eq gonna be that useful if Ur only gonna use drain punch or ice punch
@@thesoul3333 can't learn Aqua Jet afaik. It can learn vacuum wave but that doesn't get boosted by Belly Drum. You're right that it doesn't use EQ here but if you want to use it for E4 reruns that's the best move. Haven't figured out anything better specifically for Red in that slot yet.
Great video! Spent the past 2 days breeding and leveling these mons. Cost me maybe a half mil or so to get the right IVs, items, and TMs (I pretty much had zero of what was necessary) but the fight itself was very straight forward and really just goes to show how OP immunities are against trainer AI lol. Ill point out that I went with a Jolly Poliwrath (wasn't paying attention) but that it didn't seem to affect any of the rolls. I've also forgone smack down for rock slide to make the Aero better for running gyms immediately after, surely that 10% accuracy will never come back to negatively affect me
I think you might be able to do an adamant Aerodactyl as opposed to Jolly, which might make something like aerial ace viable. Unless red's pikachu has higher than normal stats, then the max speed is 306, where aerodactyl without Jolly would be 359 sp. Might allow for more consistency or cheaper investment for some when making their Aerodactyl breed for Red fight. Edit: just read that Red has the let's go partner pikachu stats which would mean about a max of 365 sp, so Jolly is required, but you can have an aerodactyl with only 3 speed IVs and it should still be fine (assuming the pikachu stats are as calculated) Edit: apparently pikachu is faster than 359. idk
Pretty likely 372 speed. 120 base, Timid, 252 EV trained. We don't know exact EV spreads, a few have non-even 252 distributions. Pikachu most likely 252/timid though.
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Yeah hopefully the only restrictions they put on the fight are item clause & species clause, which this team would survive. Never know what they're going to do or change though so always some risk but this feels much more nerf resistant than Wobbuffet.
My tactic is using two cloysters with focus sash and a Aron level 1 endeavor, I start with a cloyster and I set up shell smash, just Blastoise or Snorlax can tank the hits, so I use Aron endeavor for Snorlax and finish him off with a cloyster, the Blastoise u can hit with a Cloyster and then die and finish with the other cloyster
@@caav.pokemmo cinccino or minccino (don't remember) have skill link as his HA. He have bullet seed too... Sooooo I think it's a good change. He can handle Blastoise alone too
Could Prankster Sableye holding Black Glasses work if you were somehow able to make him switch into Snorlax then switching into Sableye on a Body Slam where you would then trap it with Mean Look and get rid of its EQ with Disable then proceed to set up 6 Hone Claws and OHKO everything with Sucker Punch? I have Red on cooldown so i cant test to see how the AI would react to the Sableye if it were to switch out of Snorlax or stay in to EQ.
Interesting thought, no idea how that would play out. Never heard of a disable setup before but if doable works similarly to encore and if it could survive the EQ I don't see why not.
why not run drifblim or skuntank as the sac mons? with aftermath you get additional chip on the sac. not that it matters too much, but you could maybe result in a saved nasty plot turn.
Tons of options you could do for the sac mons, I just tested instances where they would be totally useless to not interfere with how the strategy ends up playing out. You could even just bring things like Volcorona, Hydreigon @ Scarf, Chomp @ Band to just chunk or OHKO something.
Hi gamers, I built this team and totally neglected the bull stats on all three mons. I have done five test fights with Red and one fight that I completed. I have not seen the AI behave differently than shown in the examples in the video. Hope this helps!
There are tons of options for setup sweepers but I haven't seen one that can reliably bait a move with a single pokemon or two to allow a setup sweeper to come in and set up reliably. The random lead messes with the baiting most of the time. Scrafty/Hydreigon on Espeon locked on psyshock, Gyarados/Salamence/Dragonite/Hydreigon on earthpower or EQ, etc. I'm sure it exists, I just haven't seen it yet.
I just used Mantine with max spdef and HP with Tailwind Toxic Roost Protect with Leftovers. Basically walls 4/6 mons and Tailwind Scarf krook kills pikachu and then its just a case of bringing 4 things to beat Snorlax which isnt too hard.
@@caav.pokemmo yeah they switch a lot, but i used Ferro with rocks at the start of the fight ( can live a hit from anything that isnt Charizard ) which can basically 1v1 snorlax if he leads it with Leech Seed too. AI tends to switch a lot on Leech Seed too but with rocks it played right into my hand for the most part.
would choice band work on aerodactyl? im not at red yet so i cant test but it seems like its always switching out without changing moves anyways, and then you can use wing attack over fly for a guaranteed win
You're definitely on to something. There may be some rare instances where you need to sweep 2x in a row with different moves, but I'll go back and do some recon on my vods to see if that would work.
@caav.pokemmo would be interested to know, also if there is a time where you need to sweep 2x in a row surely you could just use one of the sack mons to reset ur choice? I'm still about 100mons away on dex so can't get to red to test quite yet
@@edmcmullan4686 Finally getting around to crunching the #s for this: 252 Atk Choice Band Aerodactyl Wing Attack vs. 148 HP / 0 Def Venusaur: 296-350 (87.5 - 103.5%) -- 25% chance to OHKO 148 HP / 0 Def is the likely spread given the range I've seen from Poliwrath Ice Punches hitting for different amounts. Just out of reach unfortunately :(
@@caav.pokemmo Thank you for your answer. I was planning on doing a E4 rerun team, and realized that the Gengar is exactly the same for RED fight and E4 rerun, so i think i'll go for Timid so. Your video was great, i'm excited to test this team when i'll be able to rebattle RED
Everytime new strat come out, all i can think is "they" will nerf that strat in second :( Anyway, nice strat dude. I was thinking, instead of earthquake, how about subtitute on poliwarth dude? So you can set up belly drum, and then you can also sweep pikachu.
Yeah definitely could work and save a turn here or there. Rache also mentioned the idea of going Salac on Poliwrath for a sub/bellydrum setup that gives you +1 speed as well. I never ended up testing it because I keep accidentally beating Red instead of logging to reset the fight XD
No dumb questions! Red is on Mt. Silver in Johto. Need to complete the OT Dex if you haven't already. Once you have, from the PC you can just follow this video: ruclips.net/video/uoWUkz-yVJM/видео.htmlsi=0m3jFk1dawytA7wX&t=129
Don't have my Suicune yet personally, but have heard this can work. What nature and how did the AI respond? What lead and were there any swaps? Snorlax might give you a bit of trouble with para chances if +6 scald doesn't OHKO
@@caav.pokemmo he lead with blastoise and I switched to suicune and he kept water spouting it. gave me room to calm mind and rest. the rest of his pokemon did like no damage. maybe it was good rng but im going to try it again today
@@JustinKrisC yeah even if it was good RNG you can probably figure out a way to bait Blastoise pretty reliably and set up on it. Could be a pretty elegant strat. Definitely let me know how it goes
@@caav.pokemmo yup. Worked like a charm. Even 2-3 calm mind was enough to survive venusaurs giga drain for 2 turns before I could rest. Snorlax body slam barely did damage. I hope you got your suicune before the cycle ended.
@@caav.pokemmo yes, in front of blastoise you hit him till have low hp so water spout doesnt dmg you, i got mine with leftovers so if blastoise is low, u get more hp than what you lose, also i have bounce so i recover more hp in the sky XD
@@leed9508 Also, if your Aero's HP is low or your IVs are low enough that the AI sees a guaranteed KO with Ice Beam, it will pick the coverage move in case you switch out.
yeah misdreavus also works in that way, a potential problem though is that forces snorlax out most of the time which could cause swaps where you would need to burn an additional sacrifice pokemon. Check out my new video though, this strategy is a bit slow in comparison.
@@caav.pokemmo everything is special, if it switches out any special wall wins. i am planning to beat it next week with a lc team. cradily can take 3 hits and recover mirror coat one everything (in theory, havent actually done it yet, only calc). idk if you have the movesets or not, ill post them just in case.
I haven't specifically tested this one in a little while but everyone who I am aware of using this strategy has not had trouble recently. With that said though I'm working on a better strategy so if you don't have this one done and you're not in any rush, wait a bit ;)
Cool strat but can we talk about how Red got to move first with light screen right after he switched out at 5:36? Cheating AI now or am I blind? EDIT: Nevermind, seems to be actual cheating AI since its an attack after every swap?
@@caav.pokemmo My bad didn't get the notifications. Basically, the snorlax is switching as soon as u start spamming nasty plot and The blastoise has hidden power. Some of my friends tried it but they were able to do it idk why
@@sly_caillou All good, yeah certain stats on Gengar will cause it to see the switch in, not exactly sure what the threshold. What are your Gengars IVs?
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The Red fight was updated to include four more teams in addition to the one you'll see in this video. For more info:
ruclips.net/video/rP83AsDVxSo/видео.html
This strategy is working as intended for this particular team of Red's, which you are guaranteed to face the first time you battle him. After that you have a 1/5 chance of facing this team per reset, so it is still very effective for that team. We're working on strategies for the other teams for now, and then hoping for a team that can take care of any of the 5 teams.
"my name is not patrouski" LMAO that caught me off guard
Hahahahaha I had no idea how to do a video intro so just spoofed him, glad you liked it!
Same lol😅
@caav.pokemmo you earned that sub my friend. More 🙏 please. Also could you make some content on pokeone and pokemon planet?
"Not Patrouski"
Im already liking.
Great video! love the "im not patrouski" intro xD Very helpfull and this will definitely help me beat red! Do you think if Dry Skin Toxicroak will be good enough instead of Poli?
Hahahaha thank you, never made a video before and had no idea how to do an intro so thought I'd pay a nod to the 👑 himself. It could definitely work, I just don't know how the AI would react to Toxicroak instead. If you have one and want to test, give it a shot and let me know how it goes!
Great video! Straight to the point and unique. Keep up the quality content 👏🏻
No fluff, straight info was my goal. Thanks for the kind words, I'll see what I can do about some more videos!
You need to make more videos! So good and love how you explain things!
I was thinking about making a video or two, definitely going to get underway with the next one
@@caav.pokemmo 100% looking forward to it! :D
5:06 Hey, I know who that Rainer you're talking about is! And is nice to know that it made it into the final version of this Red Team iteration.
Definitely not final, but good enough to share for now! going to try to find a Chansey/Scrafty strategy that is equally reliable. But yeah thanks again for that suggestion!
amazing guide Caav, very nice quality, good job!
-Former teammate "Nov".
Thanks so much!! Hope you're doing well :)
@@caav.pokemmo im doing amazingly 👍
Great video Caav, first time coming across your channel. I gotta say it's very informative, I appreciate the time you put into it I've learned a lot thank you brother!! Just subscribed and thumb'd up!
Heck yeah, thanks so much! Maybe will have a new video out next week, no promises tho :D
Awesome info overall! Great mic quality as well.
Would love to see the E4 strat with Poli.
Thank you! The E4 Poli team is this one: pokepast.es/8c207d46fe076888
Like all E4 strats, it is based on using "baiters" to set up rocks and trick pokemon on a specific move type, and then bringing in a sweeper to set up and sweep (usually with the help of X Speed.) E4 reruns are a very complex beast without specific step-by-step guides. Lots of expensive learning needed as you have to pay for items and you can wipe resulting in all loss and no money gained.
@@caav.pokemmocan this team do all region in 1 charm?
@@minulchan It can but I haven't used it yet.
Thanks not patrouski
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@@caav.pokemmo oh also cant the poliwrath Just run Aqua jet? Shouldnt It kill the espeon After a belly? Cuz idk how eq gonna be that useful if Ur only gonna use drain punch or ice punch
@@thesoul3333 can't learn Aqua Jet afaik. It can learn vacuum wave but that doesn't get boosted by Belly Drum. You're right that it doesn't use EQ here but if you want to use it for E4 reruns that's the best move. Haven't figured out anything better specifically for Red in that slot yet.
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I really love the opening 😂 🥶🔥
Hahaha no idea how I'm going to top it in the next video. Ty
Intro was the absolute best!!!
Clean and useful guide.
Was able to beat Red with the guide.
Thank you for the help!
My pleasure :D
Great video! Spent the past 2 days breeding and leveling these mons. Cost me maybe a half mil or so to get the right IVs, items, and TMs (I pretty much had zero of what was necessary) but the fight itself was very straight forward and really just goes to show how OP immunities are against trainer AI lol. Ill point out that I went with a Jolly Poliwrath (wasn't paying attention) but that it didn't seem to affect any of the rolls. I've also forgone smack down for rock slide to make the Aero better for running gyms immediately after, surely that 10% accuracy will never come back to negatively affect me
Surely it won't :D
gg keep up the good work.
Some crazy guy on the forums actually beat red using starter meganium only xD
Absolute madlad
you got me with that intro hahaha you deserve a follow
Hahahaha glad people are liking it, appreciate it tyty 🙏
15 seconds in, subscribed. Keep it up!
Thank you, really appreciate it! Tried to get straight to the point
I love the intro
Ty
I think you might be able to do an adamant Aerodactyl as opposed to Jolly, which might make something like aerial ace viable. Unless red's pikachu has higher than normal stats, then the max speed is 306, where aerodactyl without Jolly would be 359 sp. Might allow for more consistency or cheaper investment for some when making their Aerodactyl breed for Red fight.
Edit: just read that Red has the let's go partner pikachu stats which would mean about a max of 365 sp, so Jolly is required, but you can have an aerodactyl with only 3 speed IVs and it should still be fine (assuming the pikachu stats are as calculated)
Edit: apparently pikachu is faster than 359. idk
Yeah pikachu here has partner pikachu’s stats, having 120 base speed
Pretty likely 372 speed. 120 base, Timid, 252 EV trained. We don't know exact EV spreads, a few have non-even 252 distributions. Pikachu most likely 252/timid though.
Good video bro so underrated
Thank you 🥹
Great video buddy.
Tyvm really appreciate it
The intro got me auto subscribe 🤣
Got dang I gotta keep up the intros everyone loved it hahaha
You deserve a like just for that intro alone
Ty appreciate it :D
That is a great intro 😂
Hahaha tyty
Hope you continue to make content!
Gonna try to keep it up! Just put out a new video on a better strategy
What is my purpose?
You tank a hit for Gengar.
Oh, god...
LMAO
hey, youre the guy of the charm
It me
"my name is NOT patrouski" that's hilarious
Hahahaha ty for a random "couldn't think of an intro" intro it worked out great
the real caav
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More guides please whatever you can think of
Got some ideas, some that aren't even on YT yet 👀
great video. like & subscribe. keep it up !
Tytyty!! Gonna try to keep it up, maybe a new vid next week
You earned a sub!
#PtBr : Muito legal! Continue assim! Curti! / #EN : Very cool! Keep it up! Like!
Muito obrigado!!
insta like and sub on the intro 😂
Thanks patrouski 😱
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@@caav.pokemmo it was a joke dont worry. By the way thanks for the tips very useful 😉
This strat probably the safest one as it eliminate the odds of getting nerfed just like the wobbufet strat
Yeah hopefully the only restrictions they put on the fight are item clause & species clause, which this team would survive. Never know what they're going to do or change though so always some risk but this feels much more nerf resistant than Wobbuffet.
good to know if they patch the cheese strat
Yeah hopefully this is at least a tiny bit nerf proof. They likely just add species & item clause to the fight which this passes both. 🤞🤞
My tactic is using two cloysters with focus sash and a Aron level 1 endeavor, I start with a cloyster and I set up shell smash, just Blastoise or Snorlax can tank the hits, so I use Aron endeavor for Snorlax and finish him off with a cloyster, the Blastoise u can hit with a Cloyster and then die and finish with the other cloyster
And the rest of his team is ez
Just be aware that u may need a sac Mon to change between mons
That's a solid strategy! They may add species clause so beware you may need to add something else where you would use your 2nd cloyster
@@caav.pokemmo cinccino or minccino (don't remember) have skill link as his HA. He have bullet seed too... Sooooo I think it's a good change. He can handle Blastoise alone too
Great video, good content 👍
Thanks so much
Could Prankster Sableye holding Black Glasses work if you were somehow able to make him switch into Snorlax then switching into Sableye on a Body Slam where you would then trap it with Mean Look and get rid of its EQ with Disable then proceed to set up 6 Hone Claws and OHKO everything with Sucker Punch? I have Red on cooldown so i cant test to see how the AI would react to the Sableye if it were to switch out of Snorlax or stay in to EQ.
Interesting thought, no idea how that would play out. Never heard of a disable setup before but if doable works similarly to encore and if it could survive the EQ I don't see why not.
The intro. 😂
Glad everyone liked it so much, couldn't figure out how to start the video and it worked out great
niceeeeee
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why not run drifblim or skuntank as the sac mons? with aftermath you get additional chip on the sac. not that it matters too much, but you could maybe result in a saved nasty plot turn.
Tons of options you could do for the sac mons, I just tested instances where they would be totally useless to not interfere with how the strategy ends up playing out. You could even just bring things like Volcorona, Hydreigon @ Scarf, Chomp @ Band to just chunk or OHKO something.
“My name is not patrouski” 😂
Hi gamers, I built this team and totally neglected the bull stats on all three mons. I have done five test fights with Red and one fight that I completed. I have not seen the AI behave differently than shown in the examples in the video. Hope this helps!
Good to know, let me know if you run into any issues! Most people report problems with Gengar if it doesn't have enough bulk.
Me defeating my bro red with 2 cloysters and one Aron lvl 1 :gigachad:
You dropped this 👑
Good video, but there is easer option. Lock blastoiso on HP grass, and boost adamant gyarados with leftovers +6.
There are tons of options for setup sweepers but I haven't seen one that can reliably bait a move with a single pokemon or two to allow a setup sweeper to come in and set up reliably. The random lead messes with the baiting most of the time. Scrafty/Hydreigon on Espeon locked on psyshock, Gyarados/Salamence/Dragonite/Hydreigon on earthpower or EQ, etc. I'm sure it exists, I just haven't seen it yet.
patrouski should have you on his channel!
Would love that!
I just used Mantine with max spdef and HP with Tailwind Toxic Roost Protect with Leftovers. Basically walls 4/6 mons and Tailwind Scarf krook kills pikachu and then its just a case of bringing 4 things to beat Snorlax which isnt too hard.
Love that! I've heard the AI gets really switch happy with Toxic,but haven't tested it all myself. Have you noticed any tendencies with it?
@@caav.pokemmo yeah they switch a lot, but i used Ferro with rocks at the start of the fight ( can live a hit from anything that isnt Charizard ) which can basically 1v1 snorlax if he leads it with Leech Seed too. AI tends to switch a lot on Leech Seed too but with rocks it played right into my hand for the most part.
would choice band work on aerodactyl? im not at red yet so i cant test but it seems like its always switching out without changing moves anyways, and then you can use wing attack over fly for a guaranteed win
You're definitely on to something. There may be some rare instances where you need to sweep 2x in a row with different moves, but I'll go back and do some recon on my vods to see if that would work.
@caav.pokemmo would be interested to know, also if there is a time where you need to sweep 2x in a row surely you could just use one of the sack mons to reset ur choice? I'm still about 100mons away on dex so can't get to red to test quite yet
@@edmcmullan4686 Finally getting around to crunching the #s for this:
252 Atk Choice Band Aerodactyl Wing Attack vs. 148 HP / 0 Def Venusaur: 296-350 (87.5 - 103.5%) -- 25% chance to OHKO
148 HP / 0 Def is the likely spread given the range I've seen from Poliwrath Ice Punches hitting for different amounts.
Just out of reach unfortunately :(
Is a Modest Gengar still viable ? I made the mistake to make a lv100 Modest Gengar + all moves, and then realized you said that he had to be Timid :/
Mine is Modest and worked fine! Timid is needed for E4 reruns, but if you aren't doing that Modest is perfectly acceptable
@@caav.pokemmo Thank you for your answer. I was planning on doing a E4 rerun team, and realized that the Gengar is exactly the same for RED fight and E4 rerun, so i think i'll go for Timid so. Your video was great, i'm excited to test this team when i'll be able to rebattle RED
Everytime new strat come out, all i can think is "they" will nerf that strat in second :(
Anyway, nice strat dude. I was thinking, instead of earthquake, how about subtitute on poliwarth dude? So you can set up belly drum, and then you can also sweep pikachu.
He says he uses it for the E4 as well.
Yeah definitely could work and save a turn here or there. Rache also mentioned the idea of going Salac on Poliwrath for a sub/bellydrum setup that gives you +1 speed as well. I never ended up testing it because I keep accidentally beating Red instead of logging to reset the fight XD
Lol...thanks NotPatrouski
Might have to change my name to NotPatrouski
Hi Not patrouski I'm Dad
Hi Dad
Hey Cav, in the docs on the pokepaste the moveset of aerodactyle is wrong it says rockslide instead of earthquake. maybe change that :)
Fixed! Thank you for the heads up 🙏🙏🙏
@patrouski what is this intro lol
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why is my hidden power on gengar a dark move instead of fighting?
Need 40 fighting gems to change it to fighting.
how do you get smackdown on a aerodactyl
What does the PokeDex say?
hey great vid!
i got a dumb question, how do you get to red? lol
No dumb questions!
Red is on Mt. Silver in Johto. Need to complete the OT Dex if you haven't already. Once you have, from the PC you can just follow this video:
ruclips.net/video/uoWUkz-yVJM/видео.htmlsi=0m3jFk1dawytA7wX&t=129
tysm!!! @@caav.pokemmo
Yo whatsup my name is not patrouski got me hard ahahahahah
Great intro not Patrouski
Tytyty no idea how I'm gonna top it lmao
Is this still effective on the new patch?
It should still be effective against the Kanto team
my nigga not patrouski lmao
Literally couldn't figure out how to do an intro so just copied Pat and it worked out great
guys, do you think this guy could be patrouski?
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beat it first try with just suicune calm mind to max. rest, sleep talk, scald. swept the whole team.
Don't have my Suicune yet personally, but have heard this can work. What nature and how did the AI respond? What lead and were there any swaps? Snorlax might give you a bit of trouble with para chances if +6 scald doesn't OHKO
@@caav.pokemmo he lead with blastoise and I switched to suicune and he kept water spouting it. gave me room to calm mind and rest. the rest of his pokemon did like no damage. maybe it was good rng but im going to try it again today
@@JustinKrisC yeah even if it was good RNG you can probably figure out a way to bait Blastoise pretty reliably and set up on it. Could be a pretty elegant strat. Definitely let me know how it goes
@@caav.pokemmo yup. Worked like a charm. Even 2-3 calm mind was enough to survive venusaurs giga drain for 2 turns before I could rest. Snorlax body slam barely did damage. I hope you got your suicune before the cycle ended.
@@JustinKrisC Love to hear that! I unfortunately did not after about ~3.5k single encounters so I'll have to borrow a friends for testing :(
i defeated him just with 1 :P
Suicune? Scrafty?
@@caav.pokemmo gyarados
@@Raul-ci7vu Nice what lead did you get? And just DD/Moxie for the win?
@@caav.pokemmo yes, in front of blastoise you hit him till have low hp so water spout doesnt dmg you, i got mine with leftovers so if blastoise is low, u get more hp than what you lose, also i have bounce so i recover more hp in the sky XD
@@Raul-ci7vu Very clever to abuse water spout like that!!
Blastoise just ice beamed my poliwrath to death?
You need to have another pokemon bait surf/water spout, then swap Poliwrath in
Ahh I see, I had Aerodactyl out but he still seemed to ice beam on the switch. Just unlucky I guess!@@caav.pokemmo
@@leed9508 Also, if your Aero's HP is low or your IVs are low enough that the AI sees a guaranteed KO with Ice Beam, it will pick the coverage move in case you switch out.
Ahhh damn thats frustrating, I should've bought the more expensive one then! Second time around he did waterspout and I got the kill.@@caav.pokemmo
My name is not patrouski lmao
It definitely isn't patrouski
snorlax only has eq and body slam, haunter can't be touched by it, nn encore.
also it gets focus blast and it doesnt matter if it misses, snorlax cant hit haunter
yeah misdreavus also works in that way, a potential problem though is that forces snorlax out most of the time which could cause swaps where you would need to burn an additional sacrifice pokemon.
Check out my new video though, this strategy is a bit slow in comparison.
@@caav.pokemmo everything is special, if it switches out any special wall wins. i am planning to beat it next week with a lc team. cradily can take 3 hits and recover mirror coat one everything (in theory, havent actually done it yet, only calc). idk if you have the movesets or not, ill post them just in case.
Red Fight:
Charizard: - Sunny Day Early Move
Held Item - Expert Belt
HA: Solar Power
Air Slash
Dragon Pulse
Flamethrower
Focus Blast
Blastoise - Rain Dance Early Move
Held Item - Choice Scarf
HA: Rain Dish
Hidden Power (Grass)
Ice Beam
Surf
Water Spout
Venusaur - Light Screen Early Move
Held Item - Grass Gem
HA: Chlorophyll
Earth Power
Giga Drain
Sludge Bomb
Weather Ball
Snorlax - Reflect Early Move
Held Item - Leftover
Ability: Thick Fat
Body Slam
Earthquake
Rest
Sleep Talk
Pikachu - Nasty Plot Early Move
Held Item - Light Ball
HA: Lightningrod
Grass Knot
Hidden Power (Ice)
Thunder
Volt Switch
Espeon - Wish Early Move
Held Item - Life Orb
HA: Magic Bounce
Power Gem
Psyshock
Shadow Ball
Weather Ball
@@caav.pokemmo 0 Atk Lileep Rock Slide vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Charizard: 196-232 (65.9 - 78.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Charizard Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Eviolite Lileep: 182-216 (54.1 - 64.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Charizard Flamethrower vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Eviolite Lileep: 102-121 (30.3 - 36%) -- 45.2% chance to 3HKO
252 SpA Life Orb Espeon Psyshock vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Eviolite Lileep: 148-175 (44 - 52%) -- 15.2% chance to 2HKO
Is this still a working strategy?
I haven't specifically tested this one in a little while but everyone who I am aware of using this strategy has not had trouble recently. With that said though I'm working on a better strategy so if you don't have this one done and you're not in any rush, wait a bit ;)
@@caav.pokemmoit works thanks boss! 🔥
Cool strat but can we talk about how Red got to move first with light screen right after he switched out at 5:36? Cheating AI now or am I blind?
EDIT: Nevermind, seems to be actual cheating AI since its an attack after every swap?
Yep, each pokemon has a designated "free move" on switch in. Pikachu - nasty plot, Charizard - sun, Blastoise - rain, Snorlax - reflect, Venusaur - light screen, Espeon - wish. It's just a "fair fight"
notpatrouski lol
Definitely not patrouski
@@caav.pokemmo hehe
Nice video btw
They patched it 🫠🫠
Patched what exactly?
@@caav.pokemmo My bad didn't get the notifications. Basically, the snorlax is switching as soon as u start spamming nasty plot and The blastoise has hidden power. Some of my friends tried it but they were able to do it idk why
@@sly_caillou All good, yeah certain stats on Gengar will cause it to see the switch in, not exactly sure what the threshold. What are your Gengars IVs?
@@caav.pokemmo 5x31 in special