Since I forgot to bring it up in the video, I'm gonna go ahead and jump the gun and bring it up now before literally half of my comments go into it. I do not think Luigi should have electric shots instead of fire balls for his Neutral Special. The Thunder Hand was only in one game, and we never saw it again. I don't care if it's different, he's used Fireballs way more often. Different does not equal better. Plus the Green horizontal moving Fireballs reference the first Mario Bros game, which was Luigi's debut game. The Green Fireballs are way more important than the Thunder Hand.
This is pretty good. For some ideas: For pikachu, every attack that uses the tail could have the tail turn to silver, as if it was using iron tail. And as for Luigi, I don’t think he should shoot out electricity, he’s used fire more than electricity. But I would think it would be neat if his forward smash had electricity effects, as a nod to Superstar saga, or heck, just turn his forward smash into the electric palm attack itself. since Smash Ultimate is a game that praises both the old and the new, I think a reference to the first Mario and Luigi game (the ones made by Alphadream) would be really good.
2 ideas for luigi 1, give him a polterpup taunt/victory 2, as he uses it for his grabs - have his throws use the element medals from the first luigi mansion games (eg. Forward/back be fire up be water and down be ice)
I think his back throw could be the ice medal, having him freeze the opponent into a block of ice, then kick them backwards. I think his ground pound down throw should stay.
A note regarding Luigi, and more specifically the Final Smash. Personally I think it should remain basically the same... FUNCTIONALLY. Some visual changes could be made to strengthen this, but given that Luigi is using the Poltergust G-00 from Luigi's Mansion 3, the final smash could be a nod to the Super Suction from Mansion 3. I get it's the same Final Smash he had in Wii U and 3DS, but maybe that was an inspiration for Next Level Games to make the Super Suction. Regardless, to make it a more accurate reference to the ability, the wind that visualizes the sucking of air should be a blueish purple, and there should be some yellow sparks coming off of the Poltergust G-00. At that point, I think it'd be a great Final Smash for Luigi, at the very least make a (imo) good Final Smash for Luigi even better.
Keeping Luigi's final smash the same would make sense, As in Luigi's Mansion 3. He gets access to a super suction ability in certain locations. So just supercharging his down B still fits within his character.
I can see Pikachu's new side special being Iron Tail. Pikachu would do a front flip and the longer you charge it, the more damage it does similar to Skull Bash. If used in the air, the move can also spike opponents when they are at high percent.
I had an idea for Iron Tail basically being Terry's Crack Shoot, but I think Pikachu could get by just adding some metallic effects to some of the tail-focused normal moves.
I’ve actually been making redesigned movesets for older Smash characters myself, and I find it funny how similar your ideas are to mine for Luigi’s Up-Special. Although, for his Up-Smash, I had the idea for Luigi to charge up like he’s going to perform the Super Jump Punch, but when the attack button is released, a small ghost pops out of the ground behind Luigi and spooks him, causing him to jump up in fear. It could actually work almost identical to your idea for his Up-Smash, but with Luigi’s head being the sweetspot for his attack instead of his fist. But things like the height increasing the longer it’s charged could stay the same. I just thought it was a cute way to draw a parallel between Mario and Luigi while also adding a reference to Luigi’s Mansion and referencing Luigi’s cowardice.
Another change I would make to Luigi, that is purely athestical, is make him wear the poltergust all the time instead of just for moves that use it. I've always wanted Luigi in smash to feel like he was taken from Luigi's Mansion, more than mainline Mario. Like how Wario is based on WarioWare, but to a lesser extent. Also you could make Luigi's final smash look closer to those mega sucky sections in Luigi's Mansion 3. Maybe even include Gooigi helping him. As for Pikachu, the changes you made are pretty good, but I would personally change his nuetral special. Thunder Jolt is a move only in the TCG. Something I'd change it to is Electro Ball. It would honestly just be a slightly slower, slightly more powerful version of Thunder Jolt. Or if you want to change it completley, Iron Tail could be fun. Also really off topic but for a character you covered earlier, I think it would be a cool purely visual thing if Mipha's Grace activated everytime Link respawns after losing a stock
Ghostbuster Luigi is the best Luigi, though I have been seeing an arguement be made that Wario should embody less his games because they each have so much and how they're implemented in Ultimate is oftentimes messy and lean too heavily towards Waft and instead embody Rudeness, since he is the rudest Mario character, heck he is *THE* rude Mario character and that is why people wanted his Bash attack back, not only because it is a part of Wario Land, a series that has basically been outdone by WarioWare and fans want to have more representation of and also a series that is just much more Platformer than WarioWare, but also because it is such a powerfully rude gesture to shove someone out of your way. And as far as I can see it from what I see from his character as expressed in his games, yeah he should be more rude. And then there are the Duke of Dork's arguements that he should be much more "manly", as in, he should basically be personified as cartoon Masculinity, from it's toxic aspects being chalked up more. Like much more strong attacks. And then there is his argument that his unhinged personality in Smash should be toned down and much more replaced with the aforementioned Masculinity and his Stupidity and Egotistical "this is Wario's world and we're all just living in it" type of vibe to his moveset.
Fun fact his final smash isn’t just the poultergust, it’s the super suck that you can use later in the game of LM3, so I think it fits even with the poultergust down b, although I think the polterpup should be featured in some way wether victory animation or taunt since it’s Luigi’s pet dog and help represents him as an character more especially with the animations they could play with it.
Except that this has been a thing since smash 4, and thus greatly predates LM3, not to mention, the current final smash, is just called the poltergust G-00, not the super suction.
@@dusknoir64 I know but I think instead of just completely changing it maybe just make it closer to the super suction because it would make perfect sense for final smash since LM3 it’s just as powerful as it is in smash ultimate, also I feel that the super suction probably inspired the smash ultimate version of the final smash at least a bit.
Luigi is quite the conundrum when it comes to brainstorming redesigns. You might be tempted to lean more into his moves from Luigi's Mansion to give him more distinction from Mario's playstyle, but much of Luigi's personality is about being in Mario's shadow, so making him too distinct from Mario hurts his representation in that sense. Quite the tightrope for poor Luigi.
True, and the current final smash would be difficult to change cos it closely resembles a power up the poltergust gets mid way through Luigi's Mansion 3 that makes it strong enough to tear down buildings in certain locations.
For Luigi's Final Smash, I think it would be cool if he summoned one of Mr. L's mechs from Super Paper Mario. Though that would technically be Paper Luigi and not regular Luigi, it would be an interesting call-back to a series of games where Luigi is more of his own character and not just Mario's brother/player 2.
The doesnt work because Mr. L was created by Dimentio under his mind control, it's nothing Luigi used intentionally, you know what Luigi HAS used intentionally? Luigianary attacks. Using that as a cinematic to emulate one of his iconic Luigianary attacks would not only be a great callback to what is imo the best Mario RPG besides SPM, but it fits Luigi's personality more than the Poltergust.
I'm imagining pikachu's Spark side special like a weaker version of Fox's side special, but with a small AOE at the end! For Luigi, I could picture him having a Strobulb down special, capable of charging a blast of light to temporarily stun opponents! It could get longer range the more he charges, and would work like Mewtwo's stun, only hitting foes that face Luigi. This can help him close gaps on zoners and give him another option to start his wacky combos- obviously at the cost of his current powerful multi-hit move. It would reflect his actual ghost-catching methods from his own games!
Given how solid Pikachu already is in competitive, I'm personally content with his design as is. That being said, if I had to add something to spice up Pikachu, I think it'd be neat if Pikachu had a Limit-esque bar that buffs him when full, except Pikachu can only fill it by landing normal attacks and/or running across the ground. This would be reward Pikachu players for being on the offensive and keeping momentum up, and is the closest I can think of as a way to reference his Static ability. As cool as it would be to change Pikachu's Final Smash to something like his Z-Move or G-Max form, especially now that Pichu also uses Volt Tackle for his Final Smash, I personally prefer keeping Volt Tackle. Changing Pikachu's FS to a Z-Move or G-Max would likely be made a cutscene FS, and as much as I like the spectacle of the cinematics, it gets kinda annoying how many characters already have them. Volt Tackle letting Pikachu zip around the stage with a little player control feels like a better representation of Pikachu as a speedy Pokemon.
@@goodhelmetjunior3399 when I think cinematic FS, I mean Final Smashes that pull opponents into a cutscene that goes on without player input. Volt Tackles remains on the stage, the player still having a bit of control of how high/low Pikachu and Pichu go. Edit: Upon further research, I realize that Volt Tackle is in fact not controllable. I must have been thinking of Sonic's Final Smash. I still stand by Pikachu having a quick moving FS that occurs on stage instead of a cutscene
I don't think ness and captain falcon should be changed, falcon has basically no material (though a cool final smash would be the Boost Fire move in the anime would be a cool final smash) and ness is suppose to reference the other characters in his party, so I don't think he should be changed a lot
@@seabass64 Ness, and by extension Lucas, calling on his fellow party members for help for his Final Smash is a neat representation of the importance of his friends, so PK Star Storm works for me. If anything, since Ness has pretty good throws using his PSI, I'd give Ness' forward and back throws PK Rockin effects.
@guy dude while there certainly can be things to draw from, Captain Falcon as is does a good job representing the feel of driving the Blue Falcon, with his crazy fast ground movement and his explosive moves when colliding with other opponents.
@@agenthappypotato868 the blue falcon is huge and these characters shouldn't be changed a lot and raptor boost is a main ingredient in his bread and butter
Here's some ideas I had after watching this: - For Pikachu, make his tail glow white during Up-Smash to reference Iron Tail. It's only a visual difference. - For Pikachu, rename Thunder Jolt to Electro Ball. The move remains exactly the same, only the name changes. - For Luigi, Final Smash could be Super Suction from LM3. It's pretty similar to his current one, but is now based on an actual move from an actual game, and could get some visual changes to update it.
Maybe buff it by having gooigi suck behind Luigi making it a kind of sour spot so the attack can suck in all directions at all times ( Luigi and gooigi would change sides as currently is just gooigi always in Luigi's back just like in Luigi's mansión 3)
Here’s my ideas for changes to Pikachu and Luigi: -Pikachu should definitely have a Detective Hat for an alt, obviously referencing the Detective Pikachu game and movie. As for whether it would change its voice to actual words, I think that’s a change we can do without. - Pikachu should have a taunt that has it eat a berry from the series. They are a big part of the series gameplay after all. Maybe it could be randomized, showing a different berry each time. - Luigi could have a taunt that has him nervously call out “Mario…”, just like in the Luigi Mansion games. Obviously it would be different if Mario was in the same match, probably more excited and happy. - I also wanted this for Mario, but Luigi’s Side Smash should be changed to a hammer attack, a pretty iconic attack for the both of them. - Gooigi and Mr. L should definitely be alternate costumes for Luigi.
@@ShibuNub3305 I think we could replace side special with the melon effects from Yoshi's island. Side special having him shoot seeds rapidly, using neutral special to eat fire/ice based attacks changes the effect of side b for a short time.
For Pikachu, why not make the side Special Iron Tail? His tail can glow silver like Iron Tail and launch forward while somersaulting. Hitting an opponent will knock Pikachu away like Meta Knight’s Side Special. Pikachu still uses Iron Tail to this day.
Yup. What about a similar idea to what he did to Totodile's Aqua Tail? Where Pikachu does a somersault forwards while crashing Iron Tail into the ground?
I was curious about what are your feelings about the 3DS and Wii U eshops closing next year? Requests morpho knight (Kirby star Allies) could be really imposing with the attacks, taunts, and victory animations. denpa men (the denpa men games) could be a cute little moveset plus these games need more recognition Mallo (Pushmo series) These game also need more recognition and I feel like he could be used as a puzzle character where you fight like you solve a puzzle.
I think every move where Pikachu hits the opponent with his tail should be "Iron Tail." Maybe have those attacks deal slightly more damage and knockback than they already do and coat the boi's tail in metal
For a change to the side special for Pikachu, I would actually change it to iron tail. A move that Ash's Pikachu is well known for using in the anime. While it wouldn't have the range of spark or skull bash, it wouldn't really need it. It would allow Pikachu to have another powerful finishing move, that would not leave it open whatsoever. On top of that, iron tail could also be used as a reflector for projectiles, in case a fox or falco is involved when pikachu uses thunder. I mean, Ash's pikachu sure likes knocking attacks back with iron tail.
Suggestions for what ifs: What if The Pyro was in Smash? What if Bill Cypher was in Smash? What if Hitmontop was in Pokémon Unite? What if Inteleon was in Pokémon Unite?
I love all of your changes to Luigi! He definitely needs the Poltergust to be a bigger part of his moveset, even if it means removing it from his Final Smash. As a potential replacement for his Final Smash, what if we re-created the chase sequence from the final boss of Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon? A giant King Boo appears behind Luigi and starts chasing him. Luigi panics and runs away while King Boo gives chase and damages any enemy he barrels through. Luigi himself gets a speed boost while King Boo is chasing him, so the player can easily run around the stage and guide King Boo to collide with enemies. Luigi is also invincible for the duration of the final smash, so King Boo can't actually hurt him... but Luigi doesn't know that, so he's panicking the whole time.
I figure that the background of the stage could go dark as the Final Smash starts, and then a ray of sunlight can come down as it ends to make King Boo disappear. Also, to give Luigi a bit more vertical mobility while the Final Smash is happening, we could have Luigi jump up in surprise every time he touches King Boo.
@@goodhelmetjunior3399 I mean, yeah, that's basically what BrawlFan1 said in the video. We're not brainstorming new Final Smashes because it would NEED to change for the new moveset, we're just doing it because we think there's room for improvement over the current Final Smash.
I think for Pickachu, one of his taunts should be him rubbing his cheeks with its hands, because the anime likes to emphasizes the Pickachu's cheeks carry electricity, and plus, it would be cute (insert picture of cute Pikachu)
In regards to Luigi, I prefer the idea that him playing so much like Mario is due to him asking himself “what would Mario do?” when he’s unsure of himself (which is basically all the time), like what was brought up by Sleepy Swampert in his Luigi moveset revision And this next one may not pertain to movesets, but it is still noteworthy: Detective Pikachu costume. It needs to happen
Maybe loogie's down special could be guigi. He would summon it and it could be two things: -either it will function as ditto -or give luigi a nana so he will be a duo character Just thought it will be cool
I love your ideas for both Pikachu and Luigi, but I would add smth to Luigi. - I think for his Final Smash it should start the same... but instead of vaccuming the opponents Luigi accidentally releases the ghosts who will fly around the stage and attack the other fighters, while Luigi runs around panicking while trying to catch the ghost - much more fitting for the lovable and cowardly goofball he is. - For the rest of his moveset I think you made a good work, but I would throw two moves from Mario & Luigi as that series is probably the one that focuses on Luigi the most (after Luigi's Mansion ofc). The first one would be his hammer swing, smth that one user already suggested for Mario but idk where to put it, but his f-smash should totally be his Thundershock from Superstar Saga. The rest is fine. - The rest of my nitpicks are for purely cosmetic things and I wish you focused on some of these more, for example his taunts and victory screens which are weird and kind of come out of nowhere. For his taunts I would only change his planking taunt, he could check his GameBoy Horror. I would also change his victory screens I have two suggestions - first one could be the pose he does, whenever leveling up in Bowser's Inside Story and the second can have Polterpup jumping out of nowhere and jumping on him.
When it comes to having Luigi suck other fighters up with the poltergust, I have a couple of suggestions to make it more interesting. The first one is while he is sucking players up he can increase the power of the suction by pressing A during the move, just like he does in Dark Moon. The second one is that he could possibly slam them on the ground a couple of times once he has them secure in the vacuum, much like how he slams ghosts down in Luigi's Mansion 3 and I believe Dark Moon. The latter could be especially useful for getting any opponents trying to get a sneaky backstab off Luigi's back (pun intended), since they would just be launched from Luigi slamming the character caught in the vacuum onto them.
Maybe Luigi's final smash could be one of his dream attacks in Mario and Luigi: Dream Team. It would give some representation of these games and could also have some inputs to better perform the attack, as in the original games
In terms of the two characters, I have two things to mention. For Pikachu, I feel it'd be better to replace skull bash with electro ball or thunder wave. Both would work as a zoning tool to manipulate space for an opportunity to attack, but one is more damaging and the other is more of a lingering paralyze. As for Luigi, I feel like you should replace his forward smash with the lighting hand technique from the rpg games. Keeps in line with Mario's flame ball burst being like his fire hand technique. Also, since Luigi can have more quirk then Mario, I think it'd be neat if he used the rpg hammer for his side tilt, as a means of getting around projectiles. As for a final smash, how about referencing his strikers charged mega strike? Having him perform the Mario finale attack, but kicking the opponent upwards with a storm charged prism of energy. Essentially a vertical Mario finale.
Here's a good idea: I think it would be hilarious if Luigi's side smash was the flash light from Luigi's Mansion, it could stun enemies frozen just like he does to the ghosts, and then after a short time it could launch them.
Thank you for not giving Luigi a wall jump. I love how it references Super Mario 64 DS. Suggestions: That one dude from Subnautica The rest of the Mercenaries (TF2) EMMI (Metroid Dread) Edit: had Monster Hunter on this list then I remembered you already did that lol
This isn't an idea per-say but more of a question, for luigi's up special with the burst attack from Luigi's Mansion 3, would it be more of a recovery option sending Luigi high in the air, or more as a "get off me" tool more similar to how it works in Luigi's Mansion where it doesn't send Luigi very high but strong for blowing foes away.
For Luigi Gooigi from Luigi’s Mansion 3 should be an alt costume just like the yarn Yoshi Maybe his up special could be balloon related as a reference to Mario Odyssey For the final smash, maybe it could reference the Luiginary attacks from Mario and Luigi Dream Team. Luigi falling asleep and creating a dream portal would trigger the final smash For Pikachu It would be cool to see Pikachu with a ketchup bottle for a taunt as a subtle nod to the anime and all of the merch related to that idea
I think it'd be cool if Pikachu used Surf and Fly as a nod to the event Pikachus you could get back during the Yellow days. That said, I'm also cool with changing Skull Bash to Volt Tackle and Quick Attack to Zippy Zap. I love that you brought up the fact Luigi's like Mario but quirkier, as that's what my brother and I are rolling with for a Luigi-like character in our own spiritual Smash game. Luigi's Neutral Special could be the Poltergust as it's arguably become his most iconic weapon thanks to the Luigi's Mansion series. Having a "suck up then shoot out" style of play could be a good contrast to Mario's fireballs. Luigi's Side Special could call upon his trusty pal Polterpup, who debuted in Luigi's Mansion 2: Dark Moon. Luigi points forward, and Polterpup dashes forward a short ways before returning to Luigi, hitting any foes in his path and possibly bringing an item to Luigi. Luigi's Up Special could be Booigi. Luigi turns into a Boo using the Boo Mushroom from Super Mario Galaxy, allowing him to fly around for a brief while. I think it'd be hilariously ironic for Luigi to turn into the very thing he fears most: a ghost! It'd be even more hilarious if one Luigi used the Poltergust on another Luigi using Booigi. Luigi's Down Special could be Statue Luigi, an ability granted by the Tanuki Suit in SMB3 and the Statue Leaf in Super Mario 3D Land. Obviously, it'd work similar to Kirby's Stone special. Seems rather fitting for a fraidy cat like Luigi to transform into a statue in hopes of avoiding battle!
If I had to pick one of Pikachu's current "Super Moves" to make an upgraded version for as his Final Smash (like Incineroar does), I'd personally go with Catastropika. You don't even need to change the Final Smash that much, since Catastropika is already an upgraded version of Volt Tackle!
I entirely agree with Pika's Volt Tackle Side B because it should've been that in SSBU as it made more sense and it allows the Pikashnium Z-Move to be used which is really cool.
Two things 1. Luigi should have the flagpole victory like you said for Mario as well as one where he gets a key, a gem, or an elevator button like Mario’s stars/shines/moons. 2. Luigi should fire the green fireballs out of his poltergust like the elemental abilities in Luigi’s Mansion 1. 2. Weird reference, but maybe Luigi’s side special could have him ride the transportation mode of it E. Gadd uses in Superstar Saga? You could even still have the misfire with it!
I haven't played Luigi's Mansion 3 in.a long time, But i remember a sort of hyper suction mode where there was this sort of electric suction wind he could use to suck in really big objects, like he did in the pirate level. Maybe something like that for his final smash. Would be easy to implement as well.
Lovely video :) Ideas: Since Pikachu’s up-b doesn’t do electric damage and Pichu’s does, why not keep Pikachu’s as Quick Attack and make Pichu’s Zippy-Zap? ...is what I would say if I didn’t just learn that Zippy-Zap is _another_ signature Pikachu move. Ok-what if Pichu and Pikachu’s up-bs swapped properties (doing / not doing electric damage) and _then_ call Pika’s Zippy-Zap and Pichu’s Quick Attack? Doubly makes sense since Pichu is a more “basic” Pokémon, and it gives Pichu a way to recover without damaging itself. (or keep it as Agility since it wouldn’t actually,, be,,, an attack) What if we combined the propulsion of your concept for a Poltergust Luigi up-b _with_ Green Missile? It would give the move a bit more origin while maintaining how perfectly awkward and clumsy and suiting the move is for Luigi. Also, I just miss Negative Zone so much ;-; no argument against your reasoning, I just miss it.
Cool ideas here! For Pikachu though I’d rather see iron tail as a side special, or at least somewhere. It’s been a major part of his moveset in the anime since gen 3 and has been on a lot of event Pikachu (and I believe the mangas? Don’t follow those as much). Sure it’s not an electric move but since coverage is an important part of Pokémon and it’s iconic at this point I think it works. I envision it as a overhead tail swing/flip that can still charge to increase range by spinning more, but could be other ways too. I still think volt tackle needs to be in the game somehow but pichu keeping it is good to me since the only way (besides events) to get volt tackle is by breeding and evolving pichu anyways Also wish thunderjolt at least got renamed to thunderbolt and maybe become slower but stronger, a random made up move when something obvious is right there is weird, and the balloons and surfboard would be cool to see somewhere (probably as a taunt or unique animations when swimming or whatever)
Honestly, the poltergust up B was a good idea, but I was thinking, if that wasnt an option, his up B could've been balloons, to reference Mario Odyssey's Balloon World.
One thing that I’ve always had in my head is about Luigi’s Neutral B, the green fireball. I’ve always hated it, but I’m honestly not sure why that much. The thing that I keep thinking about to replace it is to make it his flashlight. Simply tapping it could make a very short range and weak stun, but the longer you hold it, the farther it can hit and the longer it stuns. You could jump, turn and move around with it but also cancel with a dodge or shielding. If you get a full charge directly in front of the opponent’s face (like a sweet spot essentially), it could be like a full shield stun. Getting flash banged is not fun. This all could help with making people have to avoid it to get close but because Luigi can cancel it, it could be a bait for some attacks.
I hope when BrawlFan talks about Pikachu's final smash, it better be about Gigavolt Havoc, 10,000,000 Volt Thunderbolt, or Volt Shock Fist (from Pokken Tournament)
IMO Pikachu's FS should be 10,000,000 Volt Thunderbolt while Pichu remains with Volt Tackle as it is the species' exclusive move and you can only get it with a Pichu Just remove Pichu's recoil damage for the FS because it's kinda stupid that a finishing attack has recoil damage
quick attack is far too iconic to get rid of imo I'd do something different for his side special. He's used electro web in the anime, so that could work; doesn't do much damage but acts as a grab (but not command grab) that holds you in place until you mash out or get hit.
I think that for Luigi, He could use Polterpup for a Taunt maybe Up. And for his final smash, He could unleash ghosts from his poltergust to attack the opponents, the attacks could stun them or could launch them very far. You could also do moves in this final smash like Inkling's move. After some time, the ghosts will get sucked back into the poltergust to end the smash.
Kirby Character Changes - [Kirby] Up Tilt (Baton Juggle): An attack that comes from the Circus ability. Kirby juggles batons, tossing the batons upwards. If the attack button is pressed repeatedly while doing this, the batons will become engulfed in flames and do more damage. Down Tilt (Slide): An attack Kirby has had since his debut. Kirby kicks as he slides forwards along the ground. Side Tilt (Parasol Swing): An attack that comes from the Parasol ability. Kirby swings a parasol forwards. Up Smash (Up Jab): An attack from the Staff ability. Kirby thrusts an extendable staff directly upwards. Down Smash (Quick Finale): An attack from the Bell ability. Kirby takes out two bells and slams them down on each side. Sound waves are blasted at the end of the attack that can deal further damage to opponents within short range of Kirby. Dash Attack (Rocket Wheel): An attack that comes from the Wheel ability. Kirby turns into a wheel and dashes forwards at great speed. Up Aerial (Moon Somersault Kick): An attack from the Fighter ability. Kirby flips upside down and kicks above him. This is much like his previous Up Aerial, however, this one deals more damage and has a small wave that is left behind by Kirby's foot for a second after the attack. The wave functions as a lingering hitbox. Down Aerial (Falling Spine): An attack from the Needle ability. Kirby dons a pink helmet with spikes on the top and flips upside-down, sticking one large spike and several smaller spikes straight down. Can Meteor Smash opponents. Forward Throw (Crown Drop): An attack that comes from the Beetle ability. Kirby places the opponent on his head and then flips forwards and slams down on the ground headfirst, crushing the victim underneath him. Down Throw (Slamming Drill): An attack from the Beetle ability. Kirby places the victim underneath him and then does a handstand on top of them, proceeding to spin around and drill into them. Up Throw: An attack from the Parasol ability. Kirby takes out a parasol and lifts the opponent up into the air on top of the parasol. Kirby then spins the parasol around, the victim spinning as well. Kirby then stabs the parasol upwards, throwing the victim up into the air. Final Smash (Hypernova): Kirby eats a Miracle Fruit and begins to glow with rainbow colors. He then performs an intensified inhale that swallows everything on-screen, including opponents, items, etc. Once they are in Kirby's mouth, he will spit them out at very high speeds, possibly KO'ing them. [Meta Knight] Dash Attack (Drill Stab): An attack from the Sword ability and used by Meta Knight in Return to Dreamland. Meta Knight stabs forward quickly with his sword as he slides along the ground. Down Aerial (Sword Drop): Based on a move used by Meta Knight in several fights against him. Meta Knight drops straight down with his sword pointing downwards. Down Tilt (Slide): An attack used by Kirby and Meta Knight. Meta Knight slides forwards along the ground and kicks; he also points his sword forwards, which adds extra damage onto it. Forward Aerial (Chop and Thrust): An attack from the Sword ability. Meta Knight swings his sword in a downward arc in front of him. Up Smash buffed. Down Tilt buffed. Down Smash buffed. Dash Attack buffed. Down Aerial buffed. Neutral Aerial buffed. Forward Throw buffed. [King Dedede] Forward Throw (Hammer Throw): King Dedede throws the opponent forwards and then spins around and lobs his own hammer at them to hit them. Down Smash (Hammer Twirl): King Dedede places his hammer underneath himself, holding the handle with the head pointing towards the ground. He then spins it around, the hammer engulfing in flames as it does so. Down Smash buffed. Forward Throw buffed. Side Smash (Hammer Slam): Based on an attack King Dedede uses in Kirby's Dream Land. It's the same as the old Side Smash, except with an added effect of stars bursting forward upon the hammer contacting the ground. The stars can deal damage to opponents as well.
I was expecting another smash moveset video, but this is good too. Speaking of Smash movesets, please do ones for the following characters: Beat from Jet Set Radio Commander Keen The Space Invaders Emmet and Ingo from Pokémon Black and White Octane from Rocket League Also, here are a couple of ideas for assist trophies Pink Bunny, Blue Mew and Yellow Bear from Roller Angels The sharks from Hungry Shark World and Hungry Shark Evolution
I cannot remember if this was a suggestion for Mario before. Either way, it'd make sense for both Mario and Luigi to have the gimmick of doing damage to opponents with a footstool. That is their main form of attack in their games that don't require power ups. It doesn't have to do big damage or anything, just small percentages. For an added bonus, when Luigi footstools off someone, he goes a bit higher than Mario would, since he's been known to be able to jump high.
I think Luigi should have a move that represents his Thunder Hand ability that he had on SuperStar Saga, like that hit move that you do when you grab someone (idk the real name, sorry) he could grab the oponent and electrocute them with his hand. To make things more funnier, he could just handshake someone and then use the Thunder Hand
For Luigi, I feel like all the specials should be based on Luigi's Mansion, especially since Green Missle is wierd and dumb. Neutral B - Poltergust: Same as K Rool as BJ said Up B - Burst: Launches Luigi up as expected Side B - Dark Light: Emits a ray that deals continuous damage to foes hit by it, but mainly it rapidly eats away at shields Down B - Strobulb: Charge up and emit a flash that briefly stuns opponents
i think Iron Tail has honestly become one of Pikachu's most iconic moves, he uses it so much in the anime as a big physical hit or coverage move, i'd probably put it as a new back air
I’ve had this idea for a while, but what if Gooigi was an echo fighter for Luigi? He fits the mold perfectly! (pun intended) He will play similar to that of regular Luigi, with some minor differences: • He will take damage when in water and will have no fire effects on his Special Moves. • He will be a unit or two lighter than Luigi. He’s made of goo, after all. • His attacks will have a little more range that Luigi, but will be marginally slower to compensate. • His neutral special would be replaced with a ball of goo, referencing how Luigi’s Bouncing Fireball custom move worked. • His Green Missile (now called Goo Missile) will hit multiple times instead of once, at the cost of being slightly weaker than Luigi’s, even when misfired.
For each of the Pokemon, they should have Power Points for their Special Moves, although it would behave just like Hero's MP meter, however, each move would have it's own PP meter, but can be refilled by hitting opponents, again, just like Hero.
EarthBound/MOTHER Nitpicks - [Ness] Down Special (PK Thunder): Ness creates an orb of electricity that can be controlled with directional inputs. It can also pass through surfaces. It damages opponents it hits, making them paralyzed. Hitting Ness allows him to use PK Thunder 2, where he launches in the opposite direction he was hit in, damaging opponents he hits. If he hits an opponent, he can use the move again. Otherwise, he enters a helpless state. Up Special (PSI Magnet): The move is much like the original PSI Magnet, but now Ness sets it above him to pull him upwards a set distance. The magnet will disappear once Ness enters its center; it can still pull in enemy projectiles and heal Ness. Final Smash (PSI Rockin'): Ness uses PK Rockin' in the area in front of him. The PSI waves move inwards towards the center of the attack, pulling opponents into the center. Then, a massive explosion of colorful PSI waves occurs, blasting opponents in all directions. [Lucas] Up Special (PK Teleport): Lucas dashes forwards a short distance to build up speed and then teleports to the input direction. Upon reappearing, Lucas will burn enemies that touch him. Down Special (PK Counter): Lucas crosses his arms to form an 'X' and creates a barrier around himself; opponents that attack him while the barrier is up will activate his second animation; Lucas drops the barrier, forming the PSI energy from the barrier into his hand and delivering a powerful punch fueled by PSI. Final Smash (PK Love): PSI Waves form on the outside of the attack and pull opponents towards the center. Then, two hexagonal figures jab into the center of the attack and then converge to form a large diamond that bursts outwards, launching enemies.
For Pikachu, one of their alts should have him in a detective cap. There's no denying that Detective Pikachu is popular enough for it to be a new alt of their's!! Also, while I do like the thought of the new final smash having Pikachu turn into its G-Max form, Smash Ultimate came out BEFORE Sword and Shield, meaning the developers wouldn't be able to make that the new final smash even if they wanted to. I suppose they could've changed it sometime after release, but that'd open up a can of worms impossible to close.
Luigi's final smash should use Gooigi. I think Gooigi could pop out, run around like an assist trophy, prioritizing people who are near Luigi, and trap people inside him with his own poltergust. Enemies caught inside him will be delt contant damage, and at the end, Gooigi will puff up and explode, launching everyone caught inside at a random angle, also launching anyone who happens to be too close when he explodes. Durring the entire duration, Luigi is fully controlable durring the final smash, but is not immune, meaning your best bet is to run away while the final smash is in effect. I know it's a lot to take in, but you get the point.
I think you could’ve had fun with Luigi’s taunts, like for the side taunt he could send out gooigie and high five him or for his up taunt he could blow air onto his face with the poltergust. Kinda of like medic’s kritzkreig taunt in TF2
(IDEA) Luigi stage intro could be him appearing from professor E.Gadds pixelator he could appear in the air falling and being visibly afraid while this would remove his Luigi's mansion pose it could be moved to one of his victory animations
To take more inspiration from Pikachu in the anime, what if Pikachu's stage entrance was him swatting away a Poke Ball instead of coming out of it, as though to show he's his own master? Mewtwo and Lucario already have unique stage entrances not using Poke Balls, so the precedent is there. To go even further, Pikachu's stage entrance could start with him balancing on a Poke Ball before swatting it away, as a reference to his appearance in the opening of Smash 64.
Hey, little suggestion. You Should do a livestream of these "What if they were Nitpicked" instead, or maybe a livestream before the eventual video. Because I think it's good to interact with your audience when it comes to this, and it may be better than the comments. Kinda like the Final Smash Livestream you did.
Here’s something I want for Pikachu: I loved the middle taint where Pikachu waves twice and goes “Pika pika” but I hate how Ultimate cut it and made it incomplete. I hope want that taunt two to give waves and Pikachu say “pika” twice again in future Smash games
Luigis new final smash could be called King Boo's Reflection Terror! King boo would appear behind Luigi and place a mirror behind him, opening a portal, but luigi hides in terror. If a foe is too close to luigi, the foe gets sucked in the mirror! Luigi then would pull out the poltergust and try suck King boo In, King boo tosses a spike upwards doing damage to any foe above King boo, then laughs before the spike falls on his head, defeating him, then the mirror would explode! Freeing the captured foes!
Some possible ideas/additions for Luigi: Grabs/Throws: Forward Throw: Luigi could use the hammer and knock the caught foe a fair distance away. This references some of the many Hammer Attacks from the Mario & Luigi games. Down Throw: I think that he could possibly slam the caught foe into the ground, launching them forwards (with a possible small shockwave on collision). I should also mention that this should probably be used for only the down throw, as it would get somewhat repetitve. Taunts/Victory Animations: Luigi could have one of his taunts and/or his victory animations be his "Death Stare". While yes, it is just a meme, I feel that it kind of fits Luigi's quirky nature. Random and quirky. Final Smash: 1. I did take into account about you saying that Luigi's Final Smash isn't too much of a nitpick, but my idea is that Luigi could suck the souls of any unlucky opponents, racking up their damage, and then slamming their souls back into their bodies, launching them into the air. It's basically the same as his current Final Smash, but this one does reference how Luigi slams ghosts into the ground in Luigi's Mansion. Just some ideas I wanted to throw out there. Anyone can let me know if they have suggestions or revisions to my ideas.
I'm feel like Luigi's Final Smash should be either Brobot as a SPM reference or something like Morty's movie in LM3. But, of course, it's your choice whether or not to use these suggestions.
I think I should ask, when would this series continue? It was something I was interested in, and yet it stopped suddenly. As for ideas, some for Pikachu would be: - Iron Tail being the Up Smash or Forward Air, being able to spike either way if you sweet spot it. - It would be cool Pikachu interacting with it's hat, but I don't know about that one. - Feint as a Dash Attack could be cool, being weaker for the property of hitting through Sheild - I think Nuzzle works better on Pichu, but could still work as Forward Smash for Pikachu. As for Luigi, I would probably do: - Give a taunt where Luigi interacts with Polterpup, his pet ghost dog. - Should Luigi use a Hammer in some of his moves, specifically his Smash Attacks, or would that be too much? - Does Luigi's Gratitude need to put in it's own Taunt, or shoved in with the Polterpup idea of a Taunt? - I know you said no for Thunder Palm to be a Neutral Special, but what's your opinion for it to be a Forward Smash?
To rework Luigi's side special as a reference while mostly keeping the original function intact, what if the move had him hold his Poltergust as it shook, then once let loose, a Luigi's Mansion ghost partially pops out, pulling Luigi and the Poltergust forward. You could even keep the RNG of the Green Missile by having a random ghost pop out with varying power/effects. Another small thing that'd make a neat addition would be to have Luigi rest on his pillow from Mario & Luigi: Dream Team for his asleep animation.
Idea for Luigi's Final Smash: what if instead of sucking opponents in, Luigi's Poltergust malfunctions, releasing Ghosts in single direction that be slightly angled, with King Boo popping out as one final big hitbox. Basically Wii Fit's Final Smash but Luigi's Mansion
Honestly, I feel like they could keep Luigi’s final smash as is but add one detail and make it the super suction in Luigi’s mansion 3. Maybe a power plug pops up Luigi plugs in the poltergust and it’s pretty much the same.
When Yoshi was brought back up it reminded me of how yoshi will grant you a power up if eaten 8+ fruits in a level. I think it could be a fun Easter egg and challenge if Yoshi, after successfully using neutral b 8 times, will lay a mario item, fire flowers and super mushrooms being the most common.
Great video! Keep up the good work! Now for some character requests: Cuphead : King Dice, Hilda Berg, Cagney Carnation, Beppi the Clown Mario : Pokey, Lakitu, Olivia (Paper Mario) Lego Mario Btd : Towers (all are good for a moveset in my eyes), Bloons/Moabs Jjba : Jotaro Kujo/Star Platinum Cooking Mama And last but not least : Gingerbrave Love your videos man. Later!!!
Requests: Fire Emblem -Azura -Caeda -Celica -Lyn Mega Man -MegaMan.EXE -Bass -Proto Man Castlevania -Shanoa -Dracula (Lord of Shadows) -Soma Cruz Misc. -Corvo Attano -Earthworm Jim
It would be cool if when Luigi used his down b, if he sucked any items that have the element of fire or ice, when he shoots back the item, he would shoot a ball of the corresponding element as a small reference to the original Luigi's Mansion
Though I’m perfectly fine with/love the moveset Pikachu has and like the ideas here, there is one move I’m *shocked* isn’t listed in his moveset or this video. Thunderbolt (you know, the move that’s arguably most associated with Pikachu, especially in the anime where it’s basically his star move ever since day 1 and is a staple electric type move)
I feel like Luigi’s Final Smash could have him utilize Gooigi in one way or another, it could be similar to what Ditto does as a Pokeball Pokémon, or they could do a tag team attack on a single opponent like what both Luigi and Gooigi did to attack King Boo in Luigi’s Mansion 3
I think luigi should have a victory animation where his poltergust pops out a dark moon piece and he catches it (or something along those lines) or he does the luigi dance from 3 as a taunt
Idea for Luigi: His final smash could be something I like to call "Mushroom Stew". As the Final Smash is used, Luigi reaches into his pocket and throws out several basic mario objects. Poison-Shrooms, Spiky Shells, Goombas that deal Damage, Fire/Ice balls, and other things. It would hit all over the stage and last for about 7-9 seconds. And for a little Luigi Flare he could even just turn on a blow function on his Poltergust and everything would fly out of there.
for luigi's final smash, i could see him using a double cherry/the dreamy luigis from M&L to stampede across the screen, ending with all of them grouping in the middle of the screen to perform a ground pound, burying all of the opponents onscreen.
Since I forgot to bring it up in the video, I'm gonna go ahead and jump the gun and bring it up now before literally half of my comments go into it.
I do not think Luigi should have electric shots instead of fire balls for his Neutral Special. The Thunder Hand was only in one game, and we never saw it again. I don't care if it's different, he's used Fireballs way more often. Different does not equal better.
Plus the Green horizontal moving Fireballs reference the first Mario Bros game, which was Luigi's debut game. The Green Fireballs are way more important than the Thunder Hand.
Episode 4? What happened to 3?
That was Yoshi, Kirby, and Fox. You must of missed it, it's on the channel.
Why
What about the Poltergust Vacuum? Is that going to be mentioned?
I really wish Luigi got to use electricity more.
This is pretty good.
For some ideas:
For pikachu, every attack that uses the tail could have the tail turn to silver, as if it was using iron tail.
And as for Luigi, I don’t think he should shoot out electricity, he’s used fire more than electricity. But I would think it would be neat if his forward smash had electricity effects, as a nod to Superstar saga, or heck, just turn his forward smash into the electric palm attack itself. since Smash Ultimate is a game that praises both the old and the new, I think a reference to the first Mario and Luigi game (the ones made by Alphadream) would be really good.
The iron tail is a must
I was thinking of this idea too. But mainly for his side smash since in my opinion it doesn't really work for me
I have ALWAYS thought that pika's up-smash should be iron tail, how is it not yet?
2 ideas for luigi
1, give him a polterpup taunt/victory
2, as he uses it for his grabs - have his throws use the element medals from the first luigi mansion games (eg. Forward/back be fire up be water and down be ice)
I think his back throw could be the ice medal, having him freeze the opponent into a block of ice, then kick them backwards. I think his ground pound down throw should stay.
A note regarding Luigi, and more specifically the Final Smash. Personally I think it should remain basically the same... FUNCTIONALLY. Some visual changes could be made to strengthen this, but given that Luigi is using the Poltergust G-00 from Luigi's Mansion 3, the final smash could be a nod to the Super Suction from Mansion 3. I get it's the same Final Smash he had in Wii U and 3DS, but maybe that was an inspiration for Next Level Games to make the Super Suction. Regardless, to make it a more accurate reference to the ability, the wind that visualizes the sucking of air should be a blueish purple, and there should be some yellow sparks coming off of the Poltergust G-00. At that point, I think it'd be a great Final Smash for Luigi, at the very least make a (imo) good Final Smash for Luigi even better.
That a great idea! Just some window dressing to better reference the source material without a complete overhaul.
Keeping Luigi's final smash the same would make sense, As in Luigi's Mansion 3. He gets access to a super suction ability in certain locations. So just supercharging his down B still fits within his character.
I can see Pikachu's new side special being Iron Tail. Pikachu would do a front flip and the longer you charge it, the more damage it does similar to Skull Bash. If used in the air, the move can also spike opponents when they are at high percent.
I had an idea for Iron Tail basically being Terry's Crack Shoot, but I think Pikachu could get by just adding some metallic effects to some of the tail-focused normal moves.
Either that or make Iron Tail his down air.
I’ve actually been making redesigned movesets for older Smash characters myself, and I find it funny how similar your ideas are to mine for Luigi’s Up-Special. Although, for his Up-Smash, I had the idea for Luigi to charge up like he’s going to perform the Super Jump Punch, but when the attack button is released, a small ghost pops out of the ground behind Luigi and spooks him, causing him to jump up in fear. It could actually work almost identical to your idea for his Up-Smash, but with Luigi’s head being the sweetspot for his attack instead of his fist. But things like the height increasing the longer it’s charged could stay the same. I just thought it was a cute way to draw a parallel between Mario and Luigi while also adding a reference to Luigi’s Mansion and referencing Luigi’s cowardice.
Another change I would make to Luigi, that is purely athestical, is make him wear the poltergust all the time instead of just for moves that use it. I've always wanted Luigi in smash to feel like he was taken from Luigi's Mansion, more than mainline Mario. Like how Wario is based on WarioWare, but to a lesser extent.
Also you could make Luigi's final smash look closer to those mega sucky sections in Luigi's Mansion 3. Maybe even include Gooigi helping him.
As for Pikachu, the changes you made are pretty good, but I would personally change his nuetral special. Thunder Jolt is a move only in the TCG. Something I'd change it to is Electro Ball. It would honestly just be a slightly slower, slightly more powerful version of Thunder Jolt. Or if you want to change it completley, Iron Tail could be fun.
Also really off topic but for a character you covered earlier, I think it would be a cool purely visual thing if Mipha's Grace activated everytime Link respawns after losing a stock
Everything you just said about Luigi is exactly what I’ve been thinking about him for years
Ghostbuster Luigi is the best Luigi, though I have been seeing an arguement be made that Wario should embody less his games because they each have so much and how they're implemented in Ultimate is oftentimes messy and lean too heavily towards Waft and instead embody Rudeness, since he is the rudest Mario character, heck he is *THE* rude Mario character and that is why people wanted his Bash attack back, not only because it is a part of Wario Land, a series that has basically been outdone by WarioWare and fans want to have more representation of and also a series that is just much more Platformer than WarioWare, but also because it is such a powerfully rude gesture to shove someone out of your way. And as far as I can see it from what I see from his character as expressed in his games, yeah he should be more rude. And then there are the Duke of Dork's arguements that he should be much more "manly", as in, he should basically be personified as cartoon Masculinity, from it's toxic aspects being chalked up more. Like much more strong attacks. And then there is his argument that his unhinged personality in Smash should be toned down and much more replaced with the aforementioned Masculinity and his Stupidity and Egotistical "this is Wario's world and we're all just living in it" type of vibe to his moveset.
Fun fact his final smash isn’t just the poultergust, it’s the super suck that you can use later in the game of LM3, so I think it fits even with the poultergust down b, although I think the polterpup should be featured in some way wether victory animation or taunt since it’s Luigi’s pet dog and help represents him as an character more especially with the animations they could play with it.
Yeah, I agree.
And, glad someone remembered that.
Except that this has been a thing since smash 4, and thus greatly predates LM3, not to mention, the current final smash, is just called the poltergust G-00, not the super suction.
@@dusknoir64 I know but I think instead of just completely changing it maybe just make it closer to the super suction because it would make perfect sense for final smash since LM3 it’s just as powerful as it is in smash ultimate, also I feel that the super suction probably inspired the smash ultimate version of the final smash at least a bit.
Finally, it's returned. I'm hoping for at least the n64 roster done by the end of the year but either way it's a good comeback.
Luigi is quite the conundrum when it comes to brainstorming redesigns. You might be tempted to lean more into his moves from Luigi's Mansion to give him more distinction from Mario's playstyle, but much of Luigi's personality is about being in Mario's shadow, so making him too distinct from Mario hurts his representation in that sense. Quite the tightrope for poor Luigi.
True, and the current final smash would be difficult to change cos it closely resembles a power up the poltergust gets mid way through Luigi's Mansion 3 that makes it strong enough to tear down buildings in certain locations.
Gooigi. End of story.
Did you watch the Design Dorks Smash Tier List?
@@andymcclurg9916 Yep. Quite the enlightening series
For Luigi's Final Smash, I think it would be cool if he summoned one of Mr. L's mechs from Super Paper Mario. Though that would technically be Paper Luigi and not regular Luigi, it would be an interesting call-back to a series of games where Luigi is more of his own character and not just Mario's brother/player 2.
Wait how are Mr. L and Luigi related they have nothing in common?
They’re both green with an association with the letter L, it’s clear Mr.L’s outfit was based on Luigi, even if they aren’t related.
@@goodhelmetjunior3399 I see you point although I would much prefer him as his own original fighter to see his personality really shine through.
The doesnt work because Mr. L was created by Dimentio under his mind control, it's nothing Luigi used intentionally, you know what Luigi HAS used intentionally? Luigianary attacks. Using that as a cinematic to emulate one of his iconic Luigianary attacks would not only be a great callback to what is imo the best Mario RPG besides SPM, but it fits Luigi's personality more than the Poltergust.
I'm imagining pikachu's Spark side special like a weaker version of Fox's side special, but with a small AOE at the end!
For Luigi, I could picture him having a Strobulb down special, capable of charging a blast of light to temporarily stun opponents! It could get longer range the more he charges, and would work like Mewtwo's stun, only hitting foes that face Luigi. This can help him close gaps on zoners and give him another option to start his wacky combos- obviously at the cost of his current powerful multi-hit move. It would reflect his actual ghost-catching methods from his own games!
How about using the Strobulb for the new f-smash? Then you can get both of the Poltergust's main functions!
Given how solid Pikachu already is in competitive, I'm personally content with his design as is.
That being said, if I had to add something to spice up Pikachu, I think it'd be neat if Pikachu had a Limit-esque bar that buffs him when full, except Pikachu can only fill it by landing normal attacks and/or running across the ground. This would be reward Pikachu players for being on the offensive and keeping momentum up, and is the closest I can think of as a way to reference his Static ability.
As cool as it would be to change Pikachu's Final Smash to something like his Z-Move or G-Max form, especially now that Pichu also uses Volt Tackle for his Final Smash, I personally prefer keeping Volt Tackle.
Changing Pikachu's FS to a Z-Move or G-Max would likely be made a cutscene FS, and as much as I like the spectacle of the cinematics, it gets kinda annoying how many characters already have them. Volt Tackle letting Pikachu zip around the stage with a little player control feels like a better representation of Pikachu as a speedy Pokemon.
Volt Tackles already a cinematic.
@@goodhelmetjunior3399 when I think cinematic FS, I mean Final Smashes that pull opponents into a cutscene that goes on without player input. Volt Tackles remains on the stage, the player still having a bit of control of how high/low Pikachu and Pichu go.
Edit: Upon further research, I realize that Volt Tackle is in fact not controllable. I must have been thinking of Sonic's Final Smash. I still stand by Pikachu having a quick moving FS that occurs on stage instead of a cutscene
yeah cutscene final smashes are just Bad at this point.
"Volt tackle isn't special anymore."
You're right. Gen 4 made it physical. :P
I hate you.
Is this a good idea as a series?:
BrawlFan1's version of Palutena's Guidance to all the What If Smash Characters you've done in the past
Ooh yes.
YES YES YES YES YES YES YES!!!!!
People have asked for this in the past and he said it would be alot of work, not sure if he will do it.
BJ ‘s said he isn’t a writer in the past.
I don't think ness and captain falcon should be changed, falcon has basically no material (though a cool final smash would be the Boost Fire move in the anime would be a cool final smash)
and ness is suppose to reference the other characters in his party, so I don't think he should be changed a lot
ness should have PK rockin as his final smash though, that's actually an attack he can learn rather than one only his partners can use
@@seabass64 Ness, and by extension Lucas, calling on his fellow party members for help for his Final Smash is a neat representation of the importance of his friends, so PK Star Storm works for me. If anything, since Ness has pretty good throws using his PSI, I'd give Ness' forward and back throws PK Rockin effects.
@guy dude while there certainly can be things to draw from, Captain Falcon as is does a good job representing the feel of driving the Blue Falcon, with his crazy fast ground movement and his explosive moves when colliding with other opponents.
@@agenthappypotato868 the blue falcon is huge and these characters shouldn't be changed a lot and raptor boost is a main ingredient in his bread and butter
Here's some ideas I had after watching this:
- For Pikachu, make his tail glow white during Up-Smash to reference Iron Tail. It's only a visual difference.
- For Pikachu, rename Thunder Jolt to Electro Ball. The move remains exactly the same, only the name changes.
- For Luigi, Final Smash could be Super Suction from LM3. It's pretty similar to his current one, but is now based on an actual move from an actual game, and could get some visual changes to update it.
Maybe buff it by having gooigi suck behind Luigi making it a kind of sour spot so the attack can suck in all directions at all times ( Luigi and gooigi would change sides as currently is just gooigi always in Luigi's back just like in Luigi's mansión 3)
Couple of requests:
Gregory & Glamrock Freddy (Security Breach)
Miles Edgeworth (Ace Attorney)
Rouge the Bat (Sonic)
Zagreus (Hades)
Captain/Tankman
Chuck Greene (Dead Rising)
Nick Ramos (Dead Rising)
Here’s my ideas for changes to Pikachu and Luigi:
-Pikachu should definitely have a Detective Hat for an alt, obviously referencing the Detective Pikachu game and movie. As for whether it would change its voice to actual words, I think that’s a change we can do without.
- Pikachu should have a taunt that has it eat a berry from the series. They are a big part of the series gameplay after all. Maybe it could be randomized, showing a different berry each time.
- Luigi could have a taunt that has him nervously call out “Mario…”, just like in the Luigi Mansion games. Obviously it would be different if Mario was in the same match, probably more excited and happy.
- I also wanted this for Mario, but Luigi’s Side Smash should be changed to a hammer attack, a pretty iconic attack for the both of them.
- Gooigi and Mr. L should definitely be alternate costumes for Luigi.
Agree for all Luigi
Heck Gooigi could work as an echo and Paper Luigi could join and have a Mr. L alt
An idea for Yoshi:
One of his taunts should have him interact with Poochy.
That’s adorable
Or just replace Egg Roll with him riding Poochy so Yoshi mains wouldn’t be stuck with a useless special move
@@ShibuNub3305 I think we could replace side special with the melon effects from Yoshi's island. Side special having him shoot seeds rapidly, using neutral special to eat fire/ice based attacks changes the effect of side b for a short time.
For Pikachu, why not make the side Special Iron Tail? His tail can glow silver like Iron Tail and launch forward while somersaulting. Hitting an opponent will knock Pikachu away like Meta Knight’s Side Special. Pikachu still uses Iron Tail to this day.
Yup. What about a similar idea to what he did to Totodile's Aqua Tail?
Where Pikachu does a somersault forwards while crashing Iron Tail into the ground?
Mostly because Iron Tail can just be his Up-Smash and maybe his Up-Air or Up-Tilt.
I was curious about what are your feelings about the 3DS and Wii U eshops closing next year?
Requests
morpho knight (Kirby star Allies) could be really imposing with the attacks, taunts, and victory animations.
denpa men (the denpa men games) could be a cute little moveset plus these games need more recognition
Mallo (Pushmo series) These game also need more recognition and I feel like he could be used as a puzzle character where you fight like you solve a puzzle.
I think every move where Pikachu hits the opponent with his tail should be "Iron Tail." Maybe have those attacks deal slightly more damage and knockback than they already do and coat the boi's tail in metal
For luigi, I feel he could get a new taunt where you hear a boo laugh and luigi jumps and scream slightly as if it scared him
That’s a clever idea
I still vigilantly await the day the Flash icon Papa Louie gets the spotlight!
Papa Louie cooks up some CHAOS!
I'd definitely be down for that, but I'd also love to see Fancy Pants Man. He'd be perfect for Smash.
I think moves like Iron Tail and Electro Ball should be given to Pikachu since he's based on Ash's and Pikachu has become synonymous with those moves
90% Ash’s Pikachu replace Electro Ball with Electro Web.
I know but Electro Ball would be more likely to be put in the game
For a change to the side special for Pikachu, I would actually change it to iron tail. A move that Ash's Pikachu is well known for using in the anime. While it wouldn't have the range of spark or skull bash, it wouldn't really need it. It would allow Pikachu to have another powerful finishing move, that would not leave it open whatsoever. On top of that, iron tail could also be used as a reflector for projectiles, in case a fox or falco is involved when pikachu uses thunder. I mean, Ash's pikachu sure likes knocking attacks back with iron tail.
Suggestions for what ifs:
What if The Pyro was in Smash?
What if Bill Cypher was in Smash?
What if Hitmontop was in Pokémon Unite?
What if Inteleon was in Pokémon Unite?
I love all of your changes to Luigi! He definitely needs the Poltergust to be a bigger part of his moveset, even if it means removing it from his Final Smash.
As a potential replacement for his Final Smash, what if we re-created the chase sequence from the final boss of Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon? A giant King Boo appears behind Luigi and starts chasing him. Luigi panics and runs away while King Boo gives chase and damages any enemy he barrels through. Luigi himself gets a speed boost while King Boo is chasing him, so the player can easily run around the stage and guide King Boo to collide with enemies. Luigi is also invincible for the duration of the final smash, so King Boo can't actually hurt him... but Luigi doesn't know that, so he's panicking the whole time.
I figure that the background of the stage could go dark as the Final Smash starts, and then a ray of sunlight can come down as it ends to make King Boo disappear.
Also, to give Luigi a bit more vertical mobility while the Final Smash is happening, we could have Luigi jump up in surprise every time he touches King Boo.
Others have brought it up but the Final Smash wouldn’t need to change if the Poltergust was included in his base moveset.
@@goodhelmetjunior3399 I mean, yeah, that's basically what BrawlFan1 said in the video. We're not brainstorming new Final Smashes because it would NEED to change for the new moveset, we're just doing it because we think there's room for improvement over the current Final Smash.
It’s a strong Leap, but the final smash could be from Dream Team since that had a HEAVY focus on Luigi, be it a Luiginary attack, or the Giant Luigi
So how would Giant Luigi would play out?
This has to be a cinematic and hot take, cinematic final smashes are just better
I love the fact that two of my favorite characters get to be covered in the same video. Keep up the good work!
This is actually my favorite series that you do, so cathartic.
Lol your ideas for Pikachu are literally the exact ones I have it's kinda scary how well they lined up
I think for Pickachu, one of his taunts should be him rubbing his cheeks with its hands, because the anime likes to emphasizes the Pickachu's cheeks carry electricity, and plus, it would be cute (insert picture of cute Pikachu)
In regards to Luigi, I prefer the idea that him playing so much like Mario is due to him asking himself “what would Mario do?” when he’s unsure of himself (which is basically all the time), like what was brought up by Sleepy Swampert in his Luigi moveset revision
And this next one may not pertain to movesets, but it is still noteworthy:
Detective Pikachu costume. It needs to happen
Maybe loogie's down special could be guigi. He would summon it and it could be two things:
-either it will function as ditto
-or give luigi a nana so he will be a duo character
Just thought it will be cool
I love your ideas for both Pikachu and Luigi, but I would add smth to Luigi.
- I think for his Final Smash it should start the same... but instead of vaccuming the opponents Luigi accidentally releases the ghosts who will fly around the stage and attack the other fighters, while Luigi runs around panicking while trying to catch the ghost - much more fitting for the lovable and cowardly goofball he is.
- For the rest of his moveset I think you made a good work, but I would throw two moves from Mario & Luigi as that series is probably the one that focuses on Luigi the most (after Luigi's Mansion ofc). The first one would be his hammer swing, smth that one user already suggested for Mario but idk where to put it, but his f-smash should totally be his Thundershock from Superstar Saga. The rest is fine.
- The rest of my nitpicks are for purely cosmetic things and I wish you focused on some of these more, for example his taunts and victory screens which are weird and kind of come out of nowhere. For his taunts I would only change his planking taunt, he could check his GameBoy Horror. I would also change his victory screens I have two suggestions - first one could be the pose he does, whenever leveling up in Bowser's Inside Story and the second can have Polterpup jumping out of nowhere and jumping on him.
When it comes to having Luigi suck other fighters up with the poltergust, I have a couple of suggestions to make it more interesting. The first one is while he is sucking players up he can increase the power of the suction by pressing A during the move, just like he does in Dark Moon. The second one is that he could possibly slam them on the ground a couple of times once he has them secure in the vacuum, much like how he slams ghosts down in Luigi's Mansion 3 and I believe Dark Moon. The latter could be especially useful for getting any opponents trying to get a sneaky backstab off Luigi's back (pun intended), since they would just be launched from Luigi slamming the character caught in the vacuum onto them.
Maybe Luigi's final smash could be one of his dream attacks in Mario and Luigi: Dream Team. It would give some representation of these games and could also have some inputs to better perform the attack, as in the original games
In terms of the two characters, I have two things to mention.
For Pikachu, I feel it'd be better to replace skull bash with electro ball or thunder wave. Both would work as a zoning tool to manipulate space for an opportunity to attack, but one is more damaging and the other is more of a lingering paralyze.
As for Luigi, I feel like you should replace his forward smash with the lighting hand technique from the rpg games. Keeps in line with Mario's flame ball burst being like his fire hand technique.
Also, since Luigi can have more quirk then Mario, I think it'd be neat if he used the rpg hammer for his side tilt, as a means of getting around projectiles.
As for a final smash, how about referencing his strikers charged mega strike? Having him perform the Mario finale attack, but kicking the opponent upwards with a storm charged prism of energy. Essentially a vertical Mario finale.
Here's a good idea:
I think it would be hilarious if Luigi's side smash was the flash light from Luigi's Mansion, it could stun enemies frozen just like he does to the ghosts, and then after a short time it could launch them.
Thank you for not giving Luigi a wall jump. I love how it references Super Mario 64 DS.
Suggestions:
That one dude from Subnautica
The rest of the Mercenaries (TF2)
EMMI (Metroid Dread)
Edit: had Monster Hunter on this list then I remembered you already did that lol
This isn't an idea per-say but more of a question, for luigi's up special with the burst attack from Luigi's Mansion 3, would it be more of a recovery option sending Luigi high in the air, or more as a "get off me" tool more similar to how it works in Luigi's Mansion where it doesn't send Luigi very high but strong for blowing foes away.
Both really. It' could send him about as high as his Up Special does now, and it can blow people away at the start of the lift off.
Thank god this series is back. It was my favorite of yours
For Luigi
Gooigi from Luigi’s Mansion 3 should be an alt costume just like the yarn Yoshi
Maybe his up special could be balloon related as a reference to Mario Odyssey
For the final smash, maybe it could reference the Luiginary attacks from Mario and Luigi Dream Team. Luigi falling asleep and creating a dream portal would trigger the final smash
For Pikachu
It would be cool to see Pikachu with a ketchup bottle for a taunt as a subtle nod to the anime and all of the merch related to that idea
I think it'd be cool if Pikachu used Surf and Fly as a nod to the event Pikachus you could get back during the Yellow days. That said, I'm also cool with changing Skull Bash to Volt Tackle and Quick Attack to Zippy Zap.
I love that you brought up the fact Luigi's like Mario but quirkier, as that's what my brother and I are rolling with for a Luigi-like character in our own spiritual Smash game.
Luigi's Neutral Special could be the Poltergust as it's arguably become his most iconic weapon thanks to the Luigi's Mansion series. Having a "suck up then shoot out" style of play could be a good contrast to Mario's fireballs.
Luigi's Side Special could call upon his trusty pal Polterpup, who debuted in Luigi's Mansion 2: Dark Moon. Luigi points forward, and Polterpup dashes forward a short ways before returning to Luigi, hitting any foes in his path and possibly bringing an item to Luigi.
Luigi's Up Special could be Booigi. Luigi turns into a Boo using the Boo Mushroom from Super Mario Galaxy, allowing him to fly around for a brief while. I think it'd be hilariously ironic for Luigi to turn into the very thing he fears most: a ghost! It'd be even more hilarious if one Luigi used the Poltergust on another Luigi using Booigi.
Luigi's Down Special could be Statue Luigi, an ability granted by the Tanuki Suit in SMB3 and the Statue Leaf in Super Mario 3D Land. Obviously, it'd work similar to Kirby's Stone special. Seems rather fitting for a fraidy cat like Luigi to transform into a statue in hopes of avoiding battle!
If I had to pick one of Pikachu's current "Super Moves" to make an upgraded version for as his Final Smash (like Incineroar does), I'd personally go with Catastropika. You don't even need to change the Final Smash that much, since Catastropika is already an upgraded version of Volt Tackle!
I entirely agree with Pika's Volt Tackle Side B because it should've been that in SSBU as it made more sense and it allows the Pikashnium Z-Move to be used which is really cool.
Two things
1. Luigi should have the flagpole victory like you said for Mario as well as one where he gets a key, a gem, or an elevator button like Mario’s stars/shines/moons.
2. Luigi should fire the green fireballs out of his poltergust like the elemental abilities in Luigi’s Mansion 1.
2. Weird reference, but maybe Luigi’s side special could have him ride the transportation mode of it E. Gadd uses in Superstar Saga? You could even still have the misfire with it!
I haven't played Luigi's Mansion 3 in.a long time, But i remember a sort of hyper suction mode where there was this sort of electric suction wind he could use to suck in really big objects, like he did in the pirate level. Maybe something like that for his final smash. Would be easy to implement as well.
Lovely video :)
Ideas:
Since Pikachu’s up-b doesn’t do electric damage and Pichu’s does, why not keep Pikachu’s as Quick Attack and make Pichu’s Zippy-Zap?
...is what I would say if I didn’t just learn that Zippy-Zap is _another_ signature Pikachu move. Ok-what if Pichu and Pikachu’s up-bs swapped properties (doing / not doing electric damage) and _then_ call Pika’s Zippy-Zap and Pichu’s Quick Attack? Doubly makes sense since Pichu is a more “basic” Pokémon, and it gives Pichu a way to recover without damaging itself. (or keep it as Agility since it wouldn’t actually,, be,,, an attack)
What if we combined the propulsion of your concept for a Poltergust Luigi up-b _with_ Green Missile? It would give the move a bit more origin while maintaining how perfectly awkward and clumsy and suiting the move is for Luigi. Also, I just miss Negative Zone so much ;-; no argument against your reasoning, I just miss it.
Cool ideas here! For Pikachu though I’d rather see iron tail as a side special, or at least somewhere. It’s been a major part of his moveset in the anime since gen 3 and has been on a lot of event Pikachu (and I believe the mangas? Don’t follow those as much). Sure it’s not an electric move but since coverage is an important part of Pokémon and it’s iconic at this point I think it works. I envision it as a overhead tail swing/flip that can still charge to increase range by spinning more, but could be other ways too. I still think volt tackle needs to be in the game somehow but pichu keeping it is good to me since the only way (besides events) to get volt tackle is by breeding and evolving pichu anyways
Also wish thunderjolt at least got renamed to thunderbolt and maybe become slower but stronger, a random made up move when something obvious is right there is weird, and the balloons and surfboard would be cool to see somewhere (probably as a taunt or unique animations when swimming or whatever)
Honestly, the poltergust up B was a good idea, but I was thinking, if that wasnt an option, his up B could've been balloons, to reference Mario Odyssey's Balloon World.
Luigi's smash I think you should be the super Star making him invincible
One thing that I’ve always had in my head is about Luigi’s Neutral B, the green fireball. I’ve always hated it, but I’m honestly not sure why that much. The thing that I keep thinking about to replace it is to make it his flashlight.
Simply tapping it could make a very short range and weak stun, but the longer you hold it, the farther it can hit and the longer it stuns. You could jump, turn and move around with it but also cancel with a dodge or shielding. If you get a full charge directly in front of the opponent’s face (like a sweet spot essentially), it could be like a full shield stun. Getting flash banged is not fun. This all could help with making people have to avoid it to get close but because Luigi can cancel it, it could be a bait for some attacks.
I hope when BrawlFan talks about Pikachu's final smash, it better be about Gigavolt Havoc, 10,000,000 Volt Thunderbolt, or Volt Shock Fist (from Pokken Tournament)
Pikachu BUSTED!
IMO Pikachu's FS should be 10,000,000 Volt Thunderbolt while Pichu remains with Volt Tackle as it is the species' exclusive move and you can only get it with a Pichu
Just remove Pichu's recoil damage for the FS because it's kinda stupid that a finishing attack has recoil damage
I hope he talks more about Iron Tail.
Well (most of you) are in luck
quick attack is far too iconic to get rid of imo
I'd do something different for his side special. He's used electro web in the anime, so that could work; doesn't do much damage but acts as a grab (but not command grab) that holds you in place until you mash out or get hit.
I think that for Luigi, He could use Polterpup for a Taunt maybe Up. And for his final smash, He could unleash ghosts from his poltergust to attack the opponents, the attacks could stun them or could launch them very far. You could also do moves in this final smash like Inkling's move. After some time, the ghosts will get sucked back into the poltergust to end the smash.
Kirby Character Changes -
[Kirby]
Up Tilt (Baton Juggle): An attack that comes from the Circus ability. Kirby juggles batons, tossing the batons upwards. If the attack button is pressed repeatedly while doing this, the batons will become engulfed in flames and do more damage.
Down Tilt (Slide): An attack Kirby has had since his debut. Kirby kicks as he slides forwards along the ground.
Side Tilt (Parasol Swing): An attack that comes from the Parasol ability. Kirby swings a parasol forwards.
Up Smash (Up Jab): An attack from the Staff ability. Kirby thrusts an extendable staff directly upwards.
Down Smash (Quick Finale): An attack from the Bell ability. Kirby takes out two bells and slams them down on each side. Sound waves are blasted at the end of the attack that can deal further damage to opponents within short range of Kirby.
Dash Attack (Rocket Wheel): An attack that comes from the Wheel ability. Kirby turns into a wheel and dashes forwards at great speed.
Up Aerial (Moon Somersault Kick): An attack from the Fighter ability. Kirby flips upside down and kicks above him. This is much like his previous Up Aerial, however, this one deals more damage and has a small wave that is left behind by Kirby's foot for a second after the attack. The wave functions as a lingering hitbox.
Down Aerial (Falling Spine): An attack from the Needle ability. Kirby dons a pink helmet with spikes on the top and flips upside-down, sticking one large spike and several smaller spikes straight down. Can Meteor Smash opponents.
Forward Throw (Crown Drop): An attack that comes from the Beetle ability. Kirby places the opponent on his head and then flips forwards and slams down on the ground headfirst, crushing the victim underneath him.
Down Throw (Slamming Drill): An attack from the Beetle ability. Kirby places the victim underneath him and then does a handstand on top of them, proceeding to spin around and drill into them.
Up Throw: An attack from the Parasol ability. Kirby takes out a parasol and lifts the opponent up into the air on top of the parasol. Kirby then spins the parasol around, the victim spinning as well. Kirby then stabs the parasol upwards, throwing the victim up into the air.
Final Smash (Hypernova): Kirby eats a Miracle Fruit and begins to glow with rainbow colors. He then performs an intensified inhale that swallows everything on-screen, including opponents, items, etc. Once they are in Kirby's mouth, he will spit them out at very high speeds, possibly KO'ing them.
[Meta Knight]
Dash Attack (Drill Stab): An attack from the Sword ability and used by Meta Knight in Return to Dreamland. Meta Knight stabs forward quickly with his sword as he slides along the ground.
Down Aerial (Sword Drop): Based on a move used by Meta Knight in several fights against him. Meta Knight drops straight down with his sword pointing downwards.
Down Tilt (Slide): An attack used by Kirby and Meta Knight. Meta Knight slides forwards along the ground and kicks; he also points his sword forwards, which adds extra damage onto it.
Forward Aerial (Chop and Thrust): An attack from the Sword ability. Meta Knight swings his sword in a downward arc in front of him.
Up Smash buffed.
Down Tilt buffed.
Down Smash buffed.
Dash Attack buffed.
Down Aerial buffed.
Neutral Aerial buffed.
Forward Throw buffed.
[King Dedede]
Forward Throw (Hammer Throw): King Dedede throws the opponent forwards and then spins around and lobs his own hammer at them to hit them.
Down Smash (Hammer Twirl): King Dedede places his hammer underneath himself, holding the handle with the head pointing towards the ground. He then spins it around, the hammer engulfing in flames as it does so.
Down Smash buffed.
Forward Throw buffed.
Side Smash (Hammer Slam): Based on an attack King Dedede uses in Kirby's Dream Land. It's the same as the old Side Smash, except with an added effect of stars bursting forward upon the hammer contacting the ground. The stars can deal damage to opponents as well.
I was expecting another smash moveset video, but this is good too.
Speaking of Smash movesets, please do ones for the following characters:
Beat from Jet Set Radio
Commander Keen
The Space Invaders
Emmet and Ingo from Pokémon Black and White
Octane from Rocket League
Also, here are a couple of ideas for assist trophies
Pink Bunny, Blue Mew and Yellow Bear from Roller Angels
The sharks from Hungry Shark World and Hungry Shark Evolution
I cannot remember if this was a suggestion for Mario before. Either way, it'd make sense for both Mario and Luigi to have the gimmick of doing damage to opponents with a footstool. That is their main form of attack in their games that don't require power ups. It doesn't have to do big damage or anything, just small percentages. For an added bonus, when Luigi footstools off someone, he goes a bit higher than Mario would, since he's been known to be able to jump high.
I think Luigi should have a move that represents his Thunder Hand ability that he had on SuperStar Saga, like that hit move that you do when you grab someone (idk the real name, sorry) he could grab the oponent and electrocute them with his hand. To make things more funnier, he could just handshake someone and then use the Thunder Hand
For Pikachu (and all other Pokémon in smash), I feel like he should be able to land critical hits, like in the games.
For Luigi, I feel like all the specials should be based on Luigi's Mansion, especially since Green Missle is wierd and dumb.
Neutral B - Poltergust: Same as K Rool as BJ said
Up B - Burst: Launches Luigi up as expected
Side B - Dark Light: Emits a ray that deals continuous damage to foes hit by it, but mainly it rapidly eats away at shields
Down B - Strobulb: Charge up and emit a flash that briefly stuns opponents
9:57 That Parry into Up B was underratedly epic!
i think Iron Tail has honestly become one of Pikachu's most iconic moves, he uses it so much in the anime as a big physical hit or coverage move, i'd probably put it as a new back air
Plenty of Pikachu’s Moves already use it’s tail, just rename Up-Smash.
I’ve had this idea for a while, but what if Gooigi was an echo fighter for Luigi? He fits the mold perfectly! (pun intended)
He will play similar to that of regular Luigi, with some minor differences:
• He will take damage when in water and will have no fire effects on his Special Moves.
• He will be a unit or two lighter than Luigi. He’s made of goo, after all.
• His attacks will have a little more range that Luigi, but will be marginally slower to compensate.
• His neutral special would be replaced with a ball of goo, referencing how Luigi’s Bouncing Fireball custom move worked.
• His Green Missile (now called Goo Missile) will hit multiple times instead of once, at the cost of being slightly weaker than Luigi’s, even when misfired.
For each of the Pokemon, they should have Power Points for their Special Moves, although it would behave just like Hero's MP meter, however, each move would have it's own PP meter, but can be refilled by hitting opponents, again, just like Hero.
EarthBound/MOTHER Nitpicks -
[Ness]
Down Special (PK Thunder): Ness creates an orb of electricity that can be controlled with directional inputs. It can also pass through surfaces. It damages opponents it hits, making them paralyzed. Hitting Ness allows him to use PK Thunder 2, where he launches in the opposite direction he was hit in, damaging opponents he hits. If he hits an opponent, he can use the move again. Otherwise, he enters a helpless state.
Up Special (PSI Magnet): The move is much like the original PSI Magnet, but now Ness sets it above him to pull him upwards a set distance. The magnet will disappear once Ness enters its center; it can still pull in enemy projectiles and heal Ness.
Final Smash (PSI Rockin'): Ness uses PK Rockin' in the area in front of him. The PSI waves move inwards towards the center of the attack, pulling opponents into the center. Then, a massive explosion of colorful PSI waves occurs, blasting opponents in all directions.
[Lucas]
Up Special (PK Teleport): Lucas dashes forwards a short distance to build up speed and then teleports to the input direction. Upon reappearing, Lucas will burn enemies that touch him.
Down Special (PK Counter): Lucas crosses his arms to form an 'X' and creates a barrier around himself; opponents that attack him while the barrier is up will activate his second animation; Lucas drops the barrier, forming the PSI energy from the barrier into his hand and delivering a powerful punch fueled by PSI.
Final Smash (PK Love): PSI Waves form on the outside of the attack and pull opponents towards the center. Then, two hexagonal figures jab into the center of the attack and then converge to form a large diamond that bursts outwards, launching enemies.
For Pikachu, one of their alts should have him in a detective cap. There's no denying that Detective Pikachu is popular enough for it to be a new alt of their's!!
Also, while I do like the thought of the new final smash having Pikachu turn into its G-Max form, Smash Ultimate came out BEFORE Sword and Shield, meaning the developers wouldn't be able to make that the new final smash even if they wanted to. I suppose they could've changed it sometime after release, but that'd open up a can of worms impossible to close.
Luigi's final smash should use Gooigi. I think Gooigi could pop out, run around like an assist trophy, prioritizing people who are near Luigi, and trap people inside him with his own poltergust. Enemies caught inside him will be delt contant damage, and at the end, Gooigi will puff up and explode, launching everyone caught inside at a random angle, also launching anyone who happens to be too close when he explodes. Durring the entire duration, Luigi is fully controlable durring the final smash, but is not immune, meaning your best bet is to run away while the final smash is in effect. I know it's a lot to take in, but you get the point.
Think Gooigi sorta like a multi-target way faster version of the assist trophy mimiku.
I think you could’ve had fun with Luigi’s taunts, like for the side taunt he could send out gooigie and high five him or for his up taunt he could blow air onto his face with the poltergust. Kinda of like medic’s kritzkreig taunt in TF2
(IDEA) Luigi stage intro could be him appearing from professor E.Gadds pixelator he could appear in the air falling and being visibly afraid while this would remove his Luigi's mansion pose it could be moved to one of his victory animations
To take more inspiration from Pikachu in the anime, what if Pikachu's stage entrance was him swatting away a Poke Ball instead of coming out of it, as though to show he's his own master? Mewtwo and Lucario already have unique stage entrances not using Poke Balls, so the precedent is there. To go even further, Pikachu's stage entrance could start with him balancing on a Poke Ball before swatting it away, as a reference to his appearance in the opening of Smash 64.
Request for Smash:
Aztech: Forgotten Gods- Achtli
ARMS- Max Brass
The Cruel King and the Great Hero- Yuu
Phantom Breaker- Mikoto
Hey, little suggestion. You Should do a livestream of these "What if they were Nitpicked" instead, or maybe a livestream before the eventual video. Because I think it's good to interact with your audience when it comes to this, and it may be better than the comments. Kinda like the Final Smash Livestream you did.
Here’s something I want for Pikachu: I loved the middle taint where Pikachu waves twice and goes “Pika pika” but I hate how Ultimate cut it and made it incomplete. I hope want that taunt two to give waves and Pikachu say “pika” twice again in future Smash games
Luigis new final smash could be called King Boo's Reflection Terror!
King boo would appear behind Luigi and place a mirror behind him, opening a portal, but luigi hides in terror. If a foe is too close to luigi, the foe gets sucked in the mirror! Luigi then would pull out the poltergust and try suck King boo In, King boo tosses a spike upwards doing damage to any foe above King boo, then laughs before the spike falls on his head, defeating him, then the mirror would explode! Freeing the captured foes!
Some possible ideas/additions for Luigi:
Grabs/Throws:
Forward Throw: Luigi could use the hammer and knock the caught foe a fair distance away. This references some of the many Hammer Attacks from the Mario & Luigi games.
Down Throw: I think that he could possibly slam the caught foe into the ground, launching them forwards (with a possible small shockwave on collision). I should also mention that this should probably be used for only the down throw, as it would get somewhat repetitve.
Taunts/Victory Animations:
Luigi could have one of his taunts and/or his victory animations be his "Death Stare". While yes, it is just a meme, I feel that it kind of fits Luigi's quirky nature. Random and quirky.
Final Smash:
1. I did take into account about you saying that Luigi's Final Smash isn't too much of a nitpick, but my idea is that Luigi could suck the souls of any unlucky opponents, racking up their damage, and then slamming their souls back into their bodies, launching them into the air. It's basically the same as his current Final Smash, but this one does reference how Luigi slams ghosts into the ground in Luigi's Mansion.
Just some ideas I wanted to throw out there. Anyone can let me know if they have suggestions or revisions to my ideas.
I especially like the changes you made for Luigi.
He FINALLY has the next Nitpicked video! I still can't wait for the video with Ness and Captain Falcon.
I'm feel like Luigi's Final Smash should be either Brobot as a SPM reference or something like Morty's movie in LM3. But, of course, it's your choice whether or not to use these suggestions.
I think I should ask, when would this series continue? It was something I was interested in, and yet it stopped suddenly.
As for ideas, some for Pikachu would be:
- Iron Tail being the Up Smash or Forward Air, being able to spike either way if you sweet spot it.
- It would be cool Pikachu interacting with it's hat, but I don't know about that one.
- Feint as a Dash Attack could be cool, being weaker for the property of hitting through Sheild
- I think Nuzzle works better on Pichu, but could still work as Forward Smash for Pikachu.
As for Luigi, I would probably do:
- Give a taunt where Luigi interacts with Polterpup, his pet ghost dog.
- Should Luigi use a Hammer in some of his moves, specifically his Smash Attacks, or would that be too much?
- Does Luigi's Gratitude need to put in it's own Taunt, or shoved in with the Polterpup idea of a Taunt?
- I know you said no for Thunder Palm to be a Neutral Special, but what's your opinion for it to be a Forward Smash?
To rework Luigi's side special as a reference while mostly keeping the original function intact, what if the move had him hold his Poltergust as it shook, then once let loose, a Luigi's Mansion ghost partially pops out, pulling Luigi and the Poltergust forward. You could even keep the RNG of the Green Missile by having a random ghost pop out with varying power/effects.
Another small thing that'd make a neat addition would be to have Luigi rest on his pillow from Mario & Luigi: Dream Team for his asleep animation.
Idea for Luigi's Final Smash: what if instead of sucking opponents in, Luigi's Poltergust malfunctions, releasing Ghosts in single direction that be slightly angled, with King Boo popping out as one final big hitbox. Basically Wii Fit's Final Smash but Luigi's Mansion
That feels very forced, I think it’s fine to keep the side B the way it is, not all of his moves have to use the poltergust
Honestly, I feel like they could keep Luigi’s final smash as is but add one detail and make it the super suction in Luigi’s mansion 3. Maybe a power plug pops up Luigi plugs in the poltergust and it’s pretty much the same.
When Yoshi was brought back up it reminded me of how yoshi will grant you a power up if eaten 8+ fruits in a level. I think it could be a fun Easter egg and challenge if Yoshi, after successfully using neutral b 8 times, will lay a mario item, fire flowers and super mushrooms being the most common.
Great video! Keep up the good work!
Now for some character requests:
Cuphead : King Dice, Hilda Berg, Cagney Carnation, Beppi the Clown
Mario : Pokey, Lakitu, Olivia (Paper Mario) Lego Mario
Btd : Towers (all are good for a moveset in my eyes), Bloons/Moabs
Jjba : Jotaro Kujo/Star Platinum
Cooking Mama
And last but not least : Gingerbrave
Love your videos man. Later!!!
I think it'd be neat to make it so any tail moves Pikachu uses turns it's tail metal to reference Iron Tail
Requests:
Fire Emblem
-Azura
-Caeda
-Celica
-Lyn
Mega Man
-MegaMan.EXE
-Bass
-Proto Man
Castlevania
-Shanoa
-Dracula (Lord of Shadows)
-Soma Cruz
Misc.
-Corvo Attano
-Earthworm Jim
For a gimmick, What if You time the jumps correctly, you will be able to do the triple jump with Mario or Luigi.
It would be cool if when Luigi used his down b, if he sucked any items that have the element of fire or ice, when he shoots back the item, he would shoot a ball of the corresponding element as a small reference to the original Luigi's Mansion
Victory animation idea:
Luigi catching a ghost or something with polter pup
Though I’m perfectly fine with/love the moveset Pikachu has and like the ideas here, there is one move I’m *shocked* isn’t listed in his moveset or this video. Thunderbolt (you know, the move that’s arguably most associated with Pikachu, especially in the anime where it’s basically his star move ever since day 1 and is a staple electric type move)
Isn’t that his down special or am I getting mixed up?
That's his down b
Pikachu's final smash is what I have a nitpick for, Pikachu should use his synergy attack from pokken as his final smash
Nah, there are a lot more unique ideas than just taking his super from another fighting game
@@alabamii smash is a fighting game so it makes more sense
I'd also rename Pikachu's Neutral to "Thunder Shock"
It'd do the same thing, just have a different name
I feel like Luigi’s Final Smash could have him utilize Gooigi in one way or another, it could be similar to what Ditto does as a Pokeball Pokémon, or they could do a tag team attack on a single opponent like what both Luigi and Gooigi did to attack King Boo in Luigi’s Mansion 3
I think luigi should have a victory animation where his poltergust pops out a dark moon piece and he catches it (or something along those lines)
or he does the luigi dance from 3 as a taunt
Idea for Luigi:
His final smash could be something I like to call "Mushroom Stew".
As the Final Smash is used, Luigi reaches into his pocket and throws out several basic mario objects. Poison-Shrooms, Spiky Shells, Goombas that deal Damage, Fire/Ice balls, and other things. It would hit all over the stage and last for about 7-9 seconds. And for a little Luigi Flare he could even just turn on a blow function on his Poltergust and everything would fly out of there.
for luigi's final smash, i could see him using a double cherry/the dreamy luigis from M&L to stampede across the screen, ending with all of them grouping in the middle of the screen to perform a ground pound, burying all of the opponents onscreen.