Is the Hogwarts Legacy Castle Film Accurate? + Trailer Breakdown & Theories
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- Опубликовано: 17 сен 2020
- In this video, I compare the Hogwarts Legacy depiction of the castle compared to the films. I point out the similarities and differences and which film the castle most closely represents.
Hogwarts castle has changed a lot over the course of the Harry Potter films. The castle we see in Philosophers/Sorcerers Stone is very different to the castle we see in The Deathly Hallows. Now there's a new depiction on the way in Hogwarts Legacy for Playstation 5, PC and the Xbox series x.
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it seems to be more book accurate with little nods like ravenclaw's symbol being an eagle
The proportions of the Castle seems to have been slightly changed (as you've noticed with the Astronomy Tower), most likely to make it an actual playable area. Many parts of the design of the film Castle were completely unproportional to human scale and in practicality couldn't possibly look exactly like they did in the miniature they designed. This is why the towers look different. Previous Harry Potter games dealt with this problem by completely cheating it with game engine magic, but here it seems they actually tried to make the exterior accurate to the interior.
Yeah I think you're right. I like your point about trying to make the exterior fit the interior, that makes a lot of sense.
They actually fixed a lot of those issues with the hp7 castle redesign, but most of the those problems weren't actually spawned from a disproprtioned model. They actually took a lot of time to make sure that the model was theorectically possible to make, that is that you could use stone and wood to build hogwarts as it looked and it wouldn't collaps under its own wait (wind is another matter). No the problem acctually can from all the differnt itterations of the castle all being slightly different from the previous ones, but they never changed any of the interior sets. Thus interior and exterior ceased to line up. But anyway personally I think a lot of the redesigns land this version squarely in shitsville. It just doesn't look visually pleasing, a lot of building are chubby and towers have been withered down to nothing (especially the bell towers), and if you look at how oversised the interiors are you can see why. Like that stair case had steps you could lie down on, edge to edge!
But yeah, it is also totally possible to get the interior and exterior to fit, even without cheating, as long as you're willing to make small adjustmensts, no need to do anything this drastic.
its kinda crazy how little subscribers you have and your video quality and editing is amazing. Hope to see you succeed.
Thanks that's really nice!
I'm excited about this because it appears that some of these changes were made in an effort to make a seamless castle with the interior matching the interior. The older games all had loading zones (and even multiple versions of Hogwarts) to hide that the interior couldn't fit.
Finally, a fellow Hogwarts architecture nerd!
Would love to see your thoughts on the new Hogwarts Legacy footage.
I think we are more! but haven't converge yet! xD
It's exciting to see that they've taken artistic liberties with the castle. It's like we get to discover Hogwarts for the first time again!
6:50 About the wider and bigger Great Hall: it would even make sense Lorewise, that the Hall was shrunk. I mean after Grindelwald and the first War against Voldemort the population of Hogwarts was at its lowest since the Witchhunts.
So excited to explore this castle and the grounds! Nice video! 😁
great video, your voice is very calming.. I had a long busy day needed this video xD
good job!
I really appreciate that 😊 happy you enjoyed it
You should have soo many more subs, hope that you will grow as soon as possible. Keep up man! It's amazing, every video is
Thanks man!
I know Ben keeps in consideration that the developers have built their game version of hogwarts keeping in mind “it’s an older version of the castle than we see in the films so it would look different”
But I honestly disagree and I believe 0% of the castles cosmetic changes are about the time setting of the game and 100% to do with:
a) fitting in with the art style the devs have chosen for the game
And
b) practicality. If the player is going to be able to explore most, if not all of Hogwarts, It must be functional to do so as much of what the films show us simply doesn’t make sense architecturally. From a game development perspective, practicality is imperative as well. It makes more sense to shrink the castle and/or some of its sections somewhat for a few reasons. Stability (for example: can the console and engine keep the game running?) and work/time (effort and time dedicated to designing exteriors, interiors, details, writing code and commands for NPCs, constructing lighting and environmental effects, combing through for bugs and glitches, etc.)
What I’m trying to say is that I don’t think the developers have given a single slice of thought about whether or not the castle looks different because of when the games set… rather all design choices have been made from a game design and development perspective, including relevance to art style.
That being said, I really liked your video and thought you made extremely valid points and analyses. I really like your channel and have subscribed❤️
Love your channel man
The wizarding school already differs between films to such extent that it is impossible to be faithful to the films when in each film the school is different and changes all the time.
Im confused by what you were referring to by the viaduct. At first, it seemed you were speaking about the huge bridge connecting to the two wings, but then you said that they added it later on. This confused me, because when you look at images of the castle from the Philosopher’s Stone, that bridge is still there. Did they make it larger in the later films or something?
In philosopher's stone through to half blood prince, there is a viaduct that connects the two wings together. In Deathly Hallows they changed it so that the viaduct is bigger and connects the courtyard to a hill outside the castle, rather than the other wing.
Great video keep it up man
I thought you had at least maybe 100,000 subscribers but only 80 something?! You deserve more for a high quality channel
Thank you! I need to make more videos I think hahaha
That circle court yard is where the 1st years train in flight class
Gained a new subscriber. Anyways any plan on making a let’s play series for this game? I’ll look forward to it 🧙♂️
Thank you! Tbh I think I probably will, watch this space hahah
My favourite version of the castle is Chamber of Secrets. I love the chamber of reception (the room before the great hall from the first 3 movies), tower that rises from the viaduct entrance in those first two that has 4 turrets coming out the corners. that’s such a cool design. Also the training grounds tower looks infinitely better in the other movies. HBP it is just another bell tower.
I definitely have a lot of nostalgia for the Chamber of Secrets castle. Agreed about the training grounds. There's a kind of warmness in that version which is nice. However from an artistic point of view I quite like the additions made in Prisoner of Azkaban, the castle kind of feels more gothic in that film and I dig that.
@@hogwartsexpert yeah, I prefer the clock tower being there
I subscribed you and I hope you will get more subscribers in time. I really like this video and it was relaxing to watch about the blueprint of Hogwarts. Your knowledge is interesting. I like it!
Thank you, that's great to hear!
The problem with the Astronomy Tower in Half-Blood Prince is that it replaces BOTH the DADA Tower and the Dark Tower from PoA *AND* it's placed on top of the Transfiguration classroom. So you can either have the Transfiguration classroom, the DADA Tower, the Dark Tower and the Astronomy Tower in its old location *OR* the Astronomy Tower in its Half-Blood Prince location (it was also rotated for HBP). Personally, I prefer the Order of the Phoenix version of the castle, because I don't like how much it changed that area of Hogwarts when they decided to move the Astronomy Tower.
That's understandable! I think I just personally prefer the look of the astronomy to the DADA tower but that's just a matter of preference. The Dark Tower always annoyed me too because it looks like it would be so impractical and only exists to be a place for Sirius to escape from 😂
Thank you!! :)
I think the Astronomy tower is not rotated but indeed a little modified like the rest of the castle 😊
The kind of subject matter that I thought literally no one else cared about. Great vid.
Loved the vid!
Thanks! Big fan by the way
What disturb me the most is not only the fact that the astronomy tower looks a bit different, but the fact that it looks like the tower is on the corner of the transfiguration courtyard, instead of being in the middle of the bottom wall... I'll definitely not get used to it if it's the case haha
I hadn't noticed that but yeah you might be right!
That was brilliant! Thank you
I just noticed that they put the Ravenclaw common room on the Lookout Tower, because when they showed us the Ravenclaw common room (7:39) on the trailer, I just looked at the Lookout Tower and noticed that they are very similar...
5:31 -> look at the Lookout tower, it’s on the top of the webcam, don’t you guys think that it looks like the common room?
I thought that was just a study area not the ravenclaw tower(wich is near the astronomy tower in the films)
I don't like the viaduct either, but they had to add it! Because before that, there was no direct land route to the castle, which would lead to the main gate!
This is actually a good mixture of a few versions of Hogwarts as the Durham section is not the same as the bell towers compare more to the philosphers stone versions whereas the ravenclaw tower looks to be accurate to HbP the owlerly is also positioned were it was in deathly hallows and also they added the deathly hallows lookout tower and they have also moved the astronomy tower to where the old dada tower was (defence against the dark arts) but they have also added a lot of there own stuff in as well for example the circluler area outside the bell towers. They have also squashed Hogwarts down as the gst tower (grand staircase tower) is very small to how it should be and to go back to the great hall the front section is the size of the philosphers stone but the design of order of the Phoenix. So it’s not totally accurate to say as they have done there own version of Hogwarts :)
Yeah I love that they've found a balance between keeping to what's come before but also adding new features. I literally noticed yesterday that they've changed how the Owlery looks. There's what looks a bit like a viewing platform at the top, kind of akin to where Dumbledore falls off in the Astronomy tower.
I would be very curious to hear your thoughts about the recent tour they gave of the Hogwarts Legacy castle interior. It's limited in scope, but there's a lot of brilliant architectural features that could be compared to the movies.
There are so many Videos out there with people talking abour Hogwarts Legacy without general Knowledge of the Wizarding World.
I am so happy to have watched your Video which was way better than any other Hogwarts Legacy Theory Videos.
Keep doing this you are great!!!
Thank you! That's great to hear
It would be awesome to see more videos like this.
There are still plenty of things that changed. Look at the viaduct/bridge connecting the yard (great hall) to the other side. It seems to be different levels. It always was plain with no stairs in front of the bridge.
Also the quidditch area is quite on a different place compared some movies.
The combad area or the stairs to the boats house look pretty different.
I wonder where the train station is in the rpg.
Will there be a gameplay at gameawards?
Yeah there a definitely going to be a lot of little tweaks and changes to the design. Can't wait to see another trailer or images and analyse it more!
Let's see.
I hope they did not overhaul the moving stairs. It would be weird to have other stairs like in the last part of the HP movie.
@@Stefan-es7yu I hope so too, but most of all I want it to be a little challenging to use them, like in the book where it's mentioned that they may lead somewhere else on Fridays or that they have trick steps in them. Sure, it would be fun if it were more like the films though, with them moving a lot more.
I hope that the planimetry of the inside is consistent with the outside of the castle, so that every window on the outside corresponds with another inside
I have never heard of the word planimetry before, thanks for that 😉. Yes I agree, in an ideal world if they could accomplish that, it would be so awesome.
@@hogwartsexpert I can make allowances for some physics defying secret passages and rooms though, but yeah, as an architect this would be the dream
@@Jehphg yeah I can imagine if you're an architect it must be annoying to spot where certain rooms are just impossible. But you're right, it is a magic castle at the end of the day hahah
Great video 👍👍👍
The wooden bridge that connects from the courtyard to near where hagrits hut is, is shown in one of the posters for the game but I don’t see it in the actual trailer .. idk if you knew that but yea 😎
Yes I noticed that after filming this video. In the poster its shown to the right of the owlery which would be different to the films. From the perspective the poster is shown at, the wooden bridge shouldn't be visible as the clock tower would block it from view. However I believe this may be artistic licence JUST for the poster because I've seen no evidence the bridge is in that position in the trailer.
The boathouse appears to be the DH2 version as well as the stone bridge tower (albeit some weird changes to widen the top of the tower). You can also see the "barracks" archways that were in the DH2.
Nice spot!
Build It With Ben Do you think the designers did this intentionally? It seems like the production designers on Crimes of Grindelwald were just lazy by going with the DH2 design. I love how this game’s design combines elements from all of the films while having its own unique twist.
I think it’s really cool that there are so many other people fascinated with the so very niche topic of the many versions of the Hogwarts castle
I’m not entirely certain, but it appears to me that the astronomy tower is in the philosopher’s stone location from when it was called the dark arts tower. I also think I can faintly see the dark tower from hp3 where the astronomy tower normally is. I could be totally wrong but that’s what my eyes see.
Yes I thought I spotted that tower. However I think there's both the astronomy tower AND the dark arts tower interestingly. I may need to watch it more to have a look.
Hey Ben, are you going to do an updated Version of this Video because of the State of play Gameplay trailer?
Just did one! ruclips.net/video/iyKTINw11co/видео.html
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Perhaps the reason why the lake is smaller is because it has to be magically enlarged to properly accommodate the Giant Squid, which for all we know isn't there yet?
I wonder if it only looks smaller in the photo to allow them to also have Hogsmeade within the frame. It might be bigger in the actual game. But yeah you could be right if it is smaller.
Good knowledgeable video! I like the theory of it being old hogwarts where the secrets about dark magic are... What house are you going to choose your first playthrough?
Thank you! Definitely going to be going with Hufflepuff, can't deny my true nature 😂 hbu?
Build It With Ben i respect that man, I love Hufflepuff and their dorms are beautiful. I definitely have all 4 houses in me, Ravenclaw the most however i think my first play through I am going to be a slytherin for sure and probably be bad. Which is easier me saying it right now and then when I end up having to make the choices I can’t make the evil choices 😂 so I’ll either bring some Light into slytherin and be a good slytherin or a do a bad first play through then my 2nd playthrough I want to try and take an actual sorting quiz if that’s possible
Every time I have taken sorting quizzes I get Ravenclaw though!
Yeah for a video game it would probably be more fun to play as Slytherin tbh. Hopefully it's the kind of game that will be fun to play through multiple times and try out different houses and play styles.
The actual problem is that if you study the castle in the movies and compare the outside to the interior, they don't match up. Not even close! That's okay for a movie where the outside is a model while the insides are actual locations. But for a game, the interior has to fit within the shell (unless you want to use non-Euclidean physics). For example, the grand staircase is a round tower on the outside in the movies, but square on the inside.
It's not the movie castle, it's an original adaption with a little bit of unavoidable similarity
The general layout is definitely following the films though. They haven't diverged enough to call it an original take IMO. It's their own spin on the movie castle.
OMG i just noticed hogsmead in the bottom corner! 4:10
Yeah there's a larger wallpaper style image they released after I made this video that shows Hogsmeade really clearly in that spot!
I consider Hogwarts Legacy's geography to be more canonical than the movies, keeping in mind the time gap, of course. Change my mind.
For instance, in the films, the Great Hall looks unconfortably tight and overcrowded-- a sign of bad design, especially considering the castle is supposed able to resize itself and be bigger on the inside --, most spaces look bland and outright inconsistent, stuff is missing or added which contradicts the source material, and the Great Staircase is really scuffed. The game is better.
Of course it has its problems: the lake is supposed to be south, not east, Hogsmeade should be north of Hogwarts and Hogsmeade Station to the south of the lake, and the Forbidden Forest should be closer. But I have the impression Rowling sucks at geography and her own descriptions don't always make sense either; why is the West Wing to the east of the Quad? Unless the movie's castle is mirrored, of course.
One thing that always bothered me was that the sundial at the end of the covered bridge disappears in the fifth movie onwards. I can’t figure out why, especially since it’s present on the big model of hogwarts at the studio tour which they used up until the sixth movie. The sundial is also present on the mini model of the deathly hallows castle which they also have at the studio tour but it was missing again in the actual movie. The clock tower courtyard/ covered bridge and sundial were always my favorite parts of hogwarts, especially the way they looked in the third film when it was more overgrown and dilapidated.
I'm pretty sure it wasn't in Deathly Hallows but wasn't it there in Goblet, Phoenix and Order? I know it was definitely there in the video game adaptations of order and prince
@@hogwartsexpert It was there in Goblet but not in Order of the Phoenix or Half Blood Prince. It was there in the video game versions but not the actual films which makes it more confusing to me. They also added pointed tower roofs to the two little towers on the front corners of the clock tower courtyard in Order of the Phoenix. That always annoyed me to because it took away from the ancient look that the courtyard had in the third film.
@@anthonylombardo2869 that is really confusing hahah. Agreed, that area really added a new flavour to Hogwarts. Cuaron really knew what he was doing with the aesthetic.
Some ppl are saying we won't have astronomy class causes its not a key and important class, but if we won't have that class then why would the tower be there strictly speaking it shouldn't be there in the first place.
are we able to download you're hogwarts map? i wanna explore it
Hogsmeade won't be accessible unless its a weekend cause most stores are closed on regular weekdays
Sod the films I say. Let them interpret the universe created in the books in their own way.
I get what you mean, and there would probably be a lot of creative licence if they did that to make gameplay more exciting. But also the film version of the castle is so iconic now that I think fans would be disappointed if it wasn't how they remembered it.
I wish they'dve created a hogwarts based more off the the books. The film layout of hogwarts makes no sense.
I'm writing this in 2023 and just knew that Hogwarts Legacy has been announced by as early as 2020, with its release originally stated for 2021, though in reality it is only this year that we got this game. Finishing the game (though I admit I haven't explored the world in its entirety yet), there were changes in these last three years.
Now that the game has been released would you make a video checking out and reviewing the Hogwarts legacy Hogwarts?
I definitely want to but I got it on PC and my performance is pretty bad. Maybe by the weekend tho!
@@hogwartsexpert great!, Even I got it on pc and I can agree, they need to patch the bad performance.
Glad to know that you will be covering this!
Whose wand do you have in the intro? Or is it a custom one?
It's Neville's wand. I think I bought it at the Studio Tour!
@@hogwartsexpert Ah neat! Thank you. He's got a cool looking wand.
@@LiveHedgehog Yeah I like it thanks. I wanted one that didn't look too specific or recognizable as one particular character
@@hogwartsexpert Neville's works well for that. It's only seen in the last 3 films (maybe not HP7.1, so 2) so most won't really pick up on it, but it has that cool wand aesthetic.
Wands like Harry's, Hermione's, Voldemort's, or the Elder Wand would be way too recognisable.
Good Analysis. I'm also a hater of the Deathly Hallows Viaduct.
For the Deathly Hallows bridge, It would be a great place for the thestral carriages for the old students, Seeing as the boat house and the new students are arriving from that direction
would love to see a minecraft hogwarts, p.s i subbed
The castle changes over 8 movies as a result of different director’s
Definitely yeah! Alfonso Cuaron brought in a lot of changes when he came on. I'm actually working on a video about this very topic so stay tuned hahah
@@hogwartsexpert good to hear! I’ve just subbed
@@hogwartsexpert Would love to see that - I find the Hogwarts grounds and location of surrounding areas very interesting. Tried to map it out but so many changes that I took a break from looking at it all.
I love deathly hallows and fantastic beasts castle better, especially de viaduct and new courtyard
It looks like they took the dada tower and the astronomy tower and smashed them together.
Think it’s a combination of the book version and the movie versions
I hope so
The great hall isnt bigger its infact smaller, yes they made it a bit wider but the length is much much shorter. the movies its like twice if not 2.5 times as long
That's interesting, if it is shorter that might explain why it looks so much wider. Looking forward to seeing more angles on it to get a better view
Is that the DragonOdd Tutorial??
I'm not sure what you mean by that sorry
@@hogwartsexpert When you said you build it, i am building it too and i thought it looked similar to mine so i thought you were following a tutorial by Dragonod
The Great Hall is much smaller!
sure, it's a bit wider, but it's so much shorter. It doesn't FEEL grand.
Look at how big it was in Order: ruclips.net/video/T3-BWH0DFes/видео.html
@@wariolandgoldpiramid good point, I think the proportions were slightly off in that game though. Have you ever visited the set at the Studio tour, it feels weirdly small and I don't know if that's because they've reduced the size of the set for the tour, or if it's just a matter of something looking bigger on film than real life. But yeah I think in the new game the fact that they've made it wider makes it feel shorter. Hard to tell though.
@@wariolandgoldpiramid To me the one in HL seems larger than the one in Order, because of the width. The overall feeling is more like a cathedral in its proportions. So I like it 😊
@@mellowthebear The width... Idk, the tables still aren't as long, so it wouldn't have as many students.
Hogwarts is speculated to have been built on top of/around the pensive in similar fashion to the ministry being built around the veil. I think there are tombs and sewers though.
What do you mean by the pensive and veil? I haven't read the books in a while so I'm slacking on my lore hahah
@@hogwartsexpert The pensive is the little bird bath Dumbledore stores memories in. It's theorized to have been created by one of the three brothers from the Deathly Hallows stories. The veil is speculated to have been created by one of the other two, and is the huge structure Sirius Black falls backwards into after being killed. The pensive allows for the preservation of memories and assumedly ideas, while the veil is a pathway straight to the world of the dead, though it isn't really super established.
@@winterburngaming9650 ah gotcha thanks. Well I thought you were talking about the pensive but couldn't work out what you meant by it was built on it. Is there like a pensive spring that the castle is built on top of hahah
@@hogwartsexpert Y'know, I've got no idea. I'd imagine the wizard created the pensive itself, but I suppose it would've been odd if he hadn't put some sort of shelter around it. Then again, I think this was the same one who wanted the cloak so he could hide from death. All this is mostly theory, anyhoo. Who knows what the truth is.
waiting for the release of the game or at least the domo
I just want another trailer or a bit of gameplay. The wait till next year feels so long hahah
not for me😭
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