#12: Frank Zappa and the Mothers - We're Only In It For the Money (Censorship, Different Versions)

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  • Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
  • It took a little while, but it's finally here! The video all about We're Only In It For the Money and all the different versions, what has/hasn't been censored, etc. I hope that this is as comprehensive as possible, but if I got something wrong, or missed something, let me know. Enjoy.
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Комментарии • 129

  • @farrellmcnulty909
    @farrellmcnulty909 Год назад +4

    Of all places (Jewel supermarket) of all towns (a Chicago suburb called "Oak Lawn"), I was getting my food for the week and saw a stockman (in his 60s, stocking shelves, he's no stockBOY), was wearing a COVID mask with Frank's "Apostrophe" image on it. I said, "That's the coolest mask I've ever seen"
    He replied, "do you know who he is?"
    "I certainly do, been a fan for most of my life"
    it was a buzz to meet someone out here who actually gets into Zappa. I've been out here 18 years and NOTHING. Nobody I've ever worked with during that time, nobody who'd ever lived in my apartment building all that time, certainly not my siblings or cousins...it was great.

    • @pinchebolillosrecordranch
      @pinchebolillosrecordranch  Год назад +1

      Most of my life, I've only known people who have heard of Zappa, but never played his music. Shortly after beginning work at the pressing plant, I came in one evening with a raggedy copy of Overnite Sensation and started playing it as I ran the record press. The president of the plant, slowly walked over to the turntable, looked at the record, slowly walked back to the guy he was talking to and said, "Yep, it's Frank". 🤣🤣🤣. I knew I was in the right place.

    • @farrellmcnulty909
      @farrellmcnulty909 Год назад +1

      @@pinchebolillosrecordranch That's awesome.

    • @user-tl8lt1hl5y
      @user-tl8lt1hl5y 6 месяцев назад +1

      Wonder if I knew him! I lived in Burbank and know the store! 🙂

  • @jeff8ball
    @jeff8ball Год назад +3

    The standout feature of this great album is the content and when it was released. I was 13 when it came out. When I heard this... it was so different, funny, inspired, I was hooked for life. I knew the man was something special! There were a lot of artists doing great stuff in the late 60's, but Frank was miles above and ahead of anyone. This album is a masterpiece. Flower power sucks😜

    • @pinchebolillosrecordranch
      @pinchebolillosrecordranch  Год назад

      I love how he ripped everyone a new one on this album. It's cynical but still funny. His commentary on things was like a beacon of light. 😎✌️👊👍

  • @familydogg1234
    @familydogg1234 Год назад +4

    Darn it! I had the original Lp ( scratched to hell with a Canned Heat cover). I like that Classical piano part intro ( can't recall before what song.) Of course that's Eric Clapton "It's God I Say God" from a phone conversation used on the Lp. That went by me who it was until 15 years later

    • @pinchebolillosrecordranch
      @pinchebolillosrecordranch  Год назад +2

      The piano bit, was it Absolutely Free? "The first word in this song is discorporate. It means to leave your body". 🤣😎

  • @onsenkuma1979
    @onsenkuma1979 Год назад +8

    One of my favorite Zappa/MOI albums. Who else in the rock world could have lampooned the whole hippie/counter cutlure thing so beautifully, from Laurel Canyon no less? 'Psychedelic dungeons popping up on every street. Go to San Franciscoooooo!' Not entirely locked into its time either; we might just all be singing along to 'Concentration Moon' soon enough.

    • @pinchebolillosrecordranch
      @pinchebolillosrecordranch  Год назад +1

      Absolutely! I played Trouble Every Day for my wife for the first time back in the late spring/early summer of 2020 when cities were on fire and all the chaos in the streets. The lyrics from '66 fit what was on the TV screen perfectly!

    • @farrellmcnulty909
      @farrellmcnulty909 Год назад +1

      @@pinchebolillosrecordranch 1966, 1968, 70s and 80s were a big blur to me - 1992 - Rodney King - this shit never stops.

    • @farrellmcnulty909
      @farrellmcnulty909 Год назад +1

      When I hear "wish I was back in the alley", I nod my head in agreement.

  • @artsahobby123
    @artsahobby123 Год назад +2

    I interviewed for Frank in 68.' I didn't get my tapes back. I don't expect to. I am listening. When I get the LP "Fast Start" I might learn more. Today I got Bobby BeauSolseil's album "Lucifer Rising." Even has Bobby's insert which I haven't read yet. The warden let the whole thing be recorded from prison. The whole friggin orchestra. Who knew more about Orchestration than Frank. I just learned about 200 Motels this week.

  • @augustusbetucius2931
    @augustusbetucius2931 Год назад +6

    That was one of my favorite Zappa albums in my teens and early twenties, along with You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore Vol II. It's still a great album, along with Freak Out. But for a while now I've been crazy for anything by the band with Ruth Underwood, Napoleon Murphy Brock, Chester Thompson, George Duke and Tom Fowler. That line up was unbelievable. Probably the best FZ line up ever.

    • @pinchebolillosrecordranch
      @pinchebolillosrecordranch  Год назад

      That was one hell of a good line up. At some point, I'll do a video on the Bizarre years and another on the DiscReet years.

    • @noodlewhitley
      @noodlewhitley Год назад +1

      Stage II is awesome. One of my favorites, too.

  • @esseffdub9941
    @esseffdub9941 Год назад +4

    What you refer to as the "highly censored version" was only released in Europe where the aforementioned award was given to him. It's all in his book. Ronnie and Kenny were teenagers Frank knew. They wiped boogers on a window until it looked like frosted glass.

  • @ytwhite5930
    @ytwhite5930 Год назад +3

    I git this album from a thrift store when I was a kid...I didn't realize what we were listening to..."Let's make the water turn black"

    • @pinchebolillosrecordranch
      @pinchebolillosrecordranch  Год назад

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @farrellmcnulty909
      @farrellmcnulty909 Год назад

      THRIFT STORE? Was it in decent condition and do you still have it? That's amazing.

    • @ytwhite5930
      @ytwhite5930 Год назад +1

      @@farrellmcnulty909 It's playable...It's now in my younger bros vast collection...

    • @pinchebolillosrecordranch
      @pinchebolillosrecordranch  Год назад

      Makes sense. There was a Goodwill I used to go to that (once you got past the crappy Andy Williams and Lawrence Welk Lp's), I found tons of cool stuff at. My lightly censored version only cost me $6 and the heavily censored cost about $10. Cheap!

  • @luciverse
    @luciverse Год назад +3

    I remember where I was the first time I got my hands on this record. I was reading the liner notes, and I just happened to have a copy of "The Penial Colony" by Kafka on hand. And you can believe I actually put the record aside and read that story before I put it on.. 👌
    anyway, thanks from TX ✌️✌️✌️

  • @fangettes
    @fangettes Год назад +3

    The edit in Let's Make The Water Turn Black sounds like it's almost 10 seconds!!!

    • @pinchebolillosrecordranch
      @pinchebolillosrecordranch  Год назад +2

      Sounds about right. I wonder how many people bought it back in '68 and spent the next few minutes in front of their turntables thinking, "did it just skip?" 🤣

  • @bandcouver
    @bandcouver Год назад +2

    I do wonder about the mental state of the executive at Verve who thought the line which included 'with her aapron and her pad, feeding all the boys at Ed's Cafe' was somehow in need of censorship.

    • @pinchebolillosrecordranch
      @pinchebolillosrecordranch  Год назад

      Isn't it weird that the ones who scream the most about morality and decency are always the ones who are the most screwed up and have tons of skeletons in their closets? 🤣🤣🤣

  • @Juan-wo7zu
    @Juan-wo7zu Год назад +2

    Every 60s zappa album is a masterpiece to me

    • @pinchebolillosrecordranch
      @pinchebolillosrecordranch  Год назад

      They really are and it's amazing how well they hold up today. The wit, the social commentary, the cynicism, the humor, all of it. 😎👊✌️

  • @robertberger3967
    @robertberger3967 Месяц назад

    at 15 (1967), I saw the album on the wall. I found it so Bizarre so I bought it. When I listened to the second side, I was getting into the Beach Boys riff and the skating sound, I jumped up only to finf it was the recording.... wow. Still love this album

  • @calvinwazoo
    @calvinwazoo Год назад +2

    Nice detail regarding the homage to Lenny Bruce. Love the way you went into all the details about how the various issues were censored. We did a review of this on the channel Vinyl Community Guncles, and I've been reviewing Zappa releases in my series One Album At A Time (I'm sure I have factual errors in it as Zappa himself often stated something as fact that was clearly contradicted by another reliable and knowledgeable source). A fascinating discography. I'll have to go back and re-read the entry in The Big Note regarding the various mixes, but as I recall a copy of the original master was located and had not deteriorated to the degree Zappa alleged. A 90s era CD was made from this copy of the master. Excellent video!

    • @pinchebolillosrecordranch
      @pinchebolillosrecordranch  Год назад

      WOW! The uncensored version? Yeah, once you double check that, post what you found here for all of us That's amazing if a copy of the uncensored version from '68 still exists! Ok, so presuming that the original uncensored master tape that Frank edited together is also what he used for the lightly censored version (which would make sense for sound quality and the tapes already have a bunch of edits and splices); then there's maybe two safety copies? One being a safety copy of the uncensored version of the master tapes (which would be what you're talking about) and a safety copy made after the master tapes were cut by Frank for the lightly censored version. If that's true, then the heavily censored Verve cut would be from the second safety copy. I'm just taking a shot in the dark with all this, but it seems plausible. If all that is pretty close to what happened (hell if I know for sure 🤣), then there needs to be a vinyl reissue of that tape. Great news. Thanks!

  • @horowizard
    @horowizard Год назад +2

    Actually, what Ryko released on CD was a Digital remix, with New Bass and Drums as a 'twofer' with Lumpy Gravy. All the censored parts had been restored, but the sound has a completely different vibe, much to the disapproval of fans. Ryko eventually found a decent copy of the original stereo master, and released it (as a single album) with the original reversed LP cover.

    • @pinchebolillosrecordranch
      @pinchebolillosrecordranch  Год назад

      That's right. The original Ryko CD was Money and Lumpy Gravy, both remixed by Frank. The lightly censored version didn't come out until the early 90's when they reissued Frank's albums.

    • @horowizard
      @horowizard Год назад

      @@pinchebolillosrecordranch Lumpy Gravy was remixed but that's not what came out on the Ryko twofer. The Lumpy Gravy remix wasn't released until 2009 on the Lumpy Money CD. Also, that's total nonsense about what you call the 'lightly censored' version not coming out until early '90 because I have it on my LP from 1968. Where are you getting this crap??

    • @farrellmcnulty909
      @farrellmcnulty909 6 месяцев назад

      @@horowizard Maybe he meant "didn't come out on CD il the 90s".

  • @luciverse
    @luciverse Год назад +2

    Verve was also the label The Velvet Underground was on. 😘
    I thought it was lovely that Lou Reed graciously agreed to announce Frank's induction to the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame some years back. As we all know

    • @pinchebolillosrecordranch
      @pinchebolillosrecordranch  Год назад

      I didn't even know Frank was in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Never paid much attention to that.

    • @luciverse
      @luciverse Год назад +2

      @@pinchebolillosrecordranch well, I'm sure if Frank were alive at the time, he wouldn't really give a shit. lol. But, It's well known that Frank didn't really care for the Velvets.. c'est la vie!

  • @jameskennedy721
    @jameskennedy721 Год назад +5

    The most available version had a couple of censored lines , but it was still incredible . A remix of one song was on MOTHERMANIA , their best greatest hits thing . Only gradually were more glimpses of the outakes etc released . This album is major Zappa must have type stuff .

    • @pinchebolillosrecordranch
      @pinchebolillosrecordranch  Год назад +2

      This one is my favorite just because it's so cynical. 🤣

    • @farrellmcnulty909
      @farrellmcnulty909 Год назад +1

      @@pinchebolillosrecordranch My first-ever version of it was the RYKO CD back in the 80s (which I finally found sometime in the 90s - the one he basically re-recorded with all new instruments. It had all the uncensored bits put back in, but the overall sound was very clinical and plastic. I don't like the censorship of the Verve pressing, but at least it sounds like a full band recording.

    • @pinchebolillosrecordranch
      @pinchebolillosrecordranch  Год назад +2

      Was that the one that had Money and Lumpy Gravy back to back on the same CD? I got so excited when I first heard that because Are You Hung Up sounded so clean and fresh... but then my heart sank with Who Needs the Peace Corps and I heard all the new drum and bass tracks added. It was just so radically different that it's almost a different album.

    • @farrellmcnulty909
      @farrellmcnulty909 Год назад

      I didn't want to get MOTHERMANIA at first because I looked at all the tracks and thought "I've got these" - no, I really didn't have these, not all of them, anyway. Mother People is uncensored (I found out later) and the next chance I had to grab it, I did. I remember downloading Mother People from some site I'd subscribed to years ago. I have to get it back, but the MOTHERMANIA version didn't have the raspberry followed by the radio noises and orchestral music. It just ended with the line "do you think that I dream through the night of holding you near me?"

    • @jameskennedy721
      @jameskennedy721 Год назад

      @@farrellmcnulty909 The ultimate " bonus tracks " version of MONEY is the whole Lumpy Gravy album . Many musical nods to the more wordy album , and just plain weirdness with the mood of MONEY still noticable . I once visited a record store in a small town , and they had a huge poster of MOTHERMANIA on the wall . The guy wouldnt sell it to me , no matter how much I offered .

  • @carlamurray9150
    @carlamurray9150 Год назад +1

    I remember when my older bro brought that album home ,in 68,looking as hippie looking as he could.Blew my mind at 10,loved it ,been a ❤ Zappa fan ever since.Miss u Frank

    • @pinchebolillosrecordranch
      @pinchebolillosrecordranch  Год назад

      We need more musicians like him around today. Could you imagine what Frank would be doing musically based on what's going these days? 🤣😎✌️👍

  • @doctorinsomnia5410
    @doctorinsomnia5410 Год назад +5

    I've got 2 copies of the album. Both are the lightly censored versions. Got the original blue Verve label. This one came with the cut-outs. Also have the white label MGM/ verve. Like most true zappaholics, I inverted the cover so the Sgt Pepper parody is in front & the lyric sheet in back & the mothers dressed in cheap frumpy dresses in the center. Was lucky not to wind up with the heavily censored version on that one. The closest we ever got to the original uncensored version was a CD reissue with the censored parts put back, but unfortunately Zappa erased the original bass and drums and had his current 80s rhythm section rerecord it. I think this version was released in 87. Not bad, it's cool to hear the uncensored parts, but I'd rather hear the lightly censored one from 68, it's true history, not history rewritten.....

    • @pinchebolillosrecordranch
      @pinchebolillosrecordranch  Год назад +1

      Do you remember what year you got the pressing with the white MGM/Verve labels? I was trying to figure out when those came out.

    • @doctorinsomnia5410
      @doctorinsomnia5410 Год назад +1

      Yes I remember, I got the first 3 mothers of invention on Verve in 1977, starting with freak-out on mother's day, absolutely free shortly after, and I remember getting we're only in it for the money just a few weeks before the total blackout in July, so I probably bought that one at Sam Goody. Let's make the water turn black is intact, right down to" mama with her apron and her pad feeding all the boys at Ed's cafe". And on who needs the peace corps, the "kick the shit out of me" line is intact. No mention of the velvet underground in the spoken section of concentration moon. And on the intro to absolutely free, she definitely says publicity balling. This copy didn't come with the cut-outs. That came in a first edition copy I found in some east village record store. A little scratchy but listenable. Only verves I couldn't find by 77 were lumpy gravy and cruising with Ruben and the Jets. Was able to find a first edition copy of lumpy gravy with the black verve label in a record store located in the basement of some Bleeker street tenement. Still have all my ZAPPA verves, with the exception of Ruben and the Jets, which I sold. Happy mother's day....

    • @farrellmcnulty909
      @farrellmcnulty909 6 месяцев назад

      Absolutely yes

  • @josephbrabander9124
    @josephbrabander9124 Год назад +2

    To is a preposition, come is a verb is one of Lenny's best known lines. In another bit he talks about how some of the ringsiders have complained. He goes on for a couple minutes and then says "I'm going to piss on you". the whole place cracks up. "You see, I can't take it out". I believe the album is called "What I was arrested for" and is on a different label than most of his material.

    • @pinchebolillosrecordranch
      @pinchebolillosrecordranch  Год назад

      I really need to get more into Lenny's stuff. I love standup comedy albums, but Lenny Bruce is one is still need to explore more.

  • @darktimesatrockymountainhi4046
    @darktimesatrockymountainhi4046 Год назад +1

    Thanks for this very interesting analysis! I appreciate your perspective as someone experienced in the production & manufacturing end of the industry. This is a favorite among all my favorites, but I’ve apparently never heard it! LOL!

  • @mikegerrish3459
    @mikegerrish3459 Год назад +2

    I have 5 stereo copies of the LP - the US V6-5045 REV/REV, REV F/REV, REV F/REV F versions, all with blue & silver labels; the original UK SVLP9199 release (REV/REV version); and the US Columbia Record Club edition, black and silver labels (REV F/REV F version), with catalogue number SKAO 91457 on the labels and on the white spine, and SMAS 91459 on the inside of the cover! Also, SK01-91457/SKO2-91457 matrices on labels; SKAO 1 91457 W2/ ST 2 91457 W2 matrices on run-out grooves, for completists!

    • @pinchebolillosrecordranch
      @pinchebolillosrecordranch  Год назад

      Badass. So you have...
      1. Original US (Lightly Censored)
      2. US (Heavily Censored)
      3. US (Lightly/Heavily Censored mixed)
      All blue & silver Verve (so that's roughly '68-'72)
      4. Original UK (Heavily Censored)
      5. US Columbia Record Club (Lightly Censored) (mastered & pressed at Capitol Records)
      How does the UK and the Record Club release pressed at Capitol sound?
      My first copy when I was barely 20 was an original pressing of the lightly censored version and shortly after that, I found a Rykodisc reissue from the early to mid 90's. Bought that one hoping it might sound a little better than the original Verve release. It's about the same.

    • @mikegerrish3459
      @mikegerrish3459 Год назад +1

      @@pinchebolillosrecordranch The US Verve blue labels have the edge over the two others, sounding clearer, and more detailed. The Capitol sounds slightly bass-heavy. I would rate the UK pressing as the least impressive, but it's still enjoyable. I haven't even compared many other versions, or even the CD's, and I can't remember much about how the UK mono version sounded, but it loses a lot of Zappa's effects in the translation, of course ('Flower Punk', being a good example)! My REV/REV version is an east coast pressing, and the other two are west coast, but I don't think that makes a lot of difference, sound-wise. I think the 45 of 'Lonely Little Girl' is an essential purchase alongside this LP, with it's different vocal inflections, and the added orchestration at the end. It's amusing that Capitol added a white spine, that makes it more like 'Sgt. Pepper's', it's just a pity they didn't turn the cover around!

    • @pinchebolillosrecordranch
      @pinchebolillosrecordranch  Год назад

      That's all because they were cutting from copies of the master. The heavily censored version sounds a little duller than the lightly censored version, but I'll double check that in a little bit since I'm cleaning some records tonight. I still think the lightly censored version is the original master, just edited down more like I said in the video because all the remastered CD releases (Ryko, Mobil Fidelity, etc.) all sound the same. I love talking about stuff like this, but I don't get too hung up on it like a lot of the audiophile guys here on RUclips do. They sound like snobby wine connoisseurs sometimes. 🤣🤣🤣

    • @mikegerrish3459
      @mikegerrish3459 Год назад +1

      @@pinchebolillosrecordranch I imagine Verve made a copy of the master in order to cut up the tape to make their edits. If they had so little regard for the source material that they could alter it against the artists' wishes, I don't think they'd be too concerned about achieving the ultimate fidelity.

    • @pinchebolillosrecordranch
      @pinchebolillosrecordranch  Год назад +1

      Agreed. I thought the same thing about Verve copying the master to cut it up more. Ah, it's all about the almighty dollar in the end. 🤣

  • @farrellmcnulty909
    @farrellmcnulty909 Год назад +2

    35:54 - I think it was part of the Old Masters box set on vinyl which you couldn't find very easily and from what I hear it was really expensive. So I never did get a copy of that, but I would've liked to. As for the remix, while I love the censored parts being reinstated, I mean really how awful were they - I didn't like the overall sound of it.

  • @farrellmcnulty909
    @farrellmcnulty909 Год назад +2

    24:05 - I've heard about that for years, the sanitary napkin bit, and I never saw the sense in it. At a cafe, as a waitress, you use a PAD, am-I-right. How else are you going to remember what everyone wants? Now, that's bad enough, but they took out "wizzing and pasting and pooting through the day", too? That sounds awful. Having said all that, I appreciate your playing those bits for those of us who never heard the segments even though they read about them. I even made a fan edit out of all the sources I have. Of course the overall sound is inconsistent because I used various sources to stitch together the album as Zappa intended. I think it came out okay, I haven't heard it in a while.

    • @pinchebolillosrecordranch
      @pinchebolillosrecordranch  Год назад +1

      I must have gotten lucky when I bought it for the first time when I was 20. Right off the bat, I got the lightly censored version. That was 2002 and between what information was available online then and looking through the overpriced "collector" section of one record shop I used to frequent, it felt like there were half a dozen different versions out there. So damn confusing. Hope this thing is a good guide for everyone out there.

    • @kjelleriksson2793
      @kjelleriksson2793 Год назад +1

      I remember an interview with FZ in which he said that the pad was/is the padded thing that the waitress has for wiping her hands. She wears it in front of her lower stomach. The record company suit thought that the pad was slang for the female reproductive organ. Only we really old people understand this mistake. At least my old Money LP has the cover the right way. Stuff is different in different countries...

    • @farrellmcnulty909
      @farrellmcnulty909 Год назад

      @@kjelleriksson2793 I take it you're in Sweden?

    • @farrellmcnulty909
      @farrellmcnulty909 Год назад

      @@kjelleriksson2793 I heard the line thinking it was her notepad onto which she jots down everyone's orders and then brings it all to them when the meals are prepared. So - she feeds them. Now, after I heard this was censored out, it didn't change my opinion, but I had a skewed opinion of those who would omit the passage, wondering if, in addition to the sanitary napkin, were the boys at Ed's Cafe eating HER out? If this is what they got from those lines, then they've been spending way too much time in church.

  • @bertilknudsen
    @bertilknudsen Год назад +2

    Great video! Be interesting if someone at Verve/MGM or someone else in the know has written about this in a biography or trade mag of some sort.

    • @pinchebolillosrecordranch
      @pinchebolillosrecordranch  Год назад +2

      I can read it now, "Dan and I were playing the album in his office when Phil from accounting walked in. He wouldn't let his daughter listen to something like this! So we devised a plan for what had to go after a good, strong martini lunch break". 🤣

    • @farrellmcnulty909
      @farrellmcnulty909 Год назад +1

      @@pinchebolillosrecordranch 😅 Did they have a Bible reading, too? That's often a go-to for the Uptight.

    • @pinchebolillosrecordranch
      @pinchebolillosrecordranch  Год назад

      🤣🤣🤣🤣. A reading from the book of Creamcheese. "And the Lord told Frank, go and invent the Mothers and comment on society. And Frank did say to the Lord, "can I be completely honest with the people?" And the Lord did reply, "try, but the suits will try to stop you. End the end I have your back". And Frank lit his 50th cigarette of the day, smiled and went about his task". 🤣🤣🤣

  • @farrellmcnulty909
    @farrellmcnulty909 Год назад +2

    After watching and listening to this video, I stumbled across a Mothers compilation which was completely unauthorized after Zappa left Verve. The tracks featured from "We're Only in it for the Money" are, of course THE HEAVILY CENSORED VERSIONS. 🤣 In a way, I thought "how great, now I don't have to go looking for it, I have those exceprts here". It also contains a few turnes from Absolutely Free, from America Drinks to Son of Suzie Creemcheese. Their "big hit single" Why Don't You Do Me Right and Big Leg Emma are bookended as opening side one and closing side two. I bought it at a record show for 10 bucks, it sounds horrible, looks even worse. The stupidest thing when it comes to sequencing is they stuck "Absolutely Free" on side one, but it faded out and didn't segue into "Flower Punk" because the latter song kicks off Side Two. Cheap Thrills, Excertps from Lumpy Gravy and Wowie Zowie follow "Absolutely Free". Putting on side two now, I cannot WAIT to hear how awful the whole thing sounds. Guess Verve was kinda pissed at our man, weren't they.

    • @pinchebolillosrecordranch
      @pinchebolillosrecordranch  Год назад

      That sounds awful! What's the album titled? Sounds like a bootleg.

    • @farrellmcnulty909
      @farrellmcnulty909 Год назад +1

      @@pinchebolillosrecordranch I checked it on Wikipedia and the title is "Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention, released in 1971. It has a photo of Frank that's designed to look like a projector slide, and the name of the band / title of the album has a spray-paint design. Seeing that it's on a black Verve label, my first thought it must be from overseas.

    • @pinchebolillosrecordranch
      @pinchebolillosrecordranch  Год назад +1

      Just found it. It's from 1975 and it's a British compilation, but it was also released in France in '76. Sorry to hear about the bad sound quality. I once heard that when EMI would release British versions of Motown albums, they would cut the lacquers from a US record instead of a tape copy of the master. Wonder if UK Verve did something similar with this album. 🤔

    • @farrellmcnulty909
      @farrellmcnulty909 Год назад +1

      @@pinchebolillosrecordranch it sounds like they did, especially with the heavily censored bits of Money and how Uncle Bernie's Farm slams right into Son of Susie Creamcheese. I paid 10 bucks for a shitty copy, but I bet when it was new it sold for 3 quid at the British Woolworths 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Yeah it sounds bad but I can see the humor in that, so I have a kitschy item. All good.

    • @farrellmcnulty909
      @farrellmcnulty909 Год назад +1

      @@pinchebolillosrecordranch Once I found a 70s pressing of the Beatles Please Please Me album. It was on "box Parlophone " and I can't remembet the price but it was decent. Side One had two labels on it...some of it was etched under the groove of the title track🤣 but I thought "what the hell...it might still sound okay" like those cardboard records we used to find on the backs of cereal boxes.

  • @eddiehaynes7120
    @eddiehaynes7120 Год назад +2

    Did verve ever release a fully uncensored version? I had the 80’s cd that was uncensored. I recently listened to the album on Tidal, which streams FLACC files, but it sucks because the bass isn’t there.

    • @pinchebolillosrecordranch
      @pinchebolillosrecordranch  Год назад

      All Verve pressings from '68 - '74 or '75 are either the lightly censored version or the butchered heavily censored version.

    • @knootify
      @knootify Год назад +1

      @@pinchebolillosrecordranch The Canadian first pressing is even less censored than the "lightly censored" versions. It has the "which is as shitty a group" in the Velvet Underground line.

    • @pinchebolillosrecordranch
      @pinchebolillosrecordranch  Год назад +1

      I read that once, but wasn't sure if it was true or not. I'd like to get a copy. 🙂

    • @knootify
      @knootify Год назад +1

      @@pinchebolillosrecordranch There's also a snork at the end of side one on the canadian pressing that don't appear on any of the other ones. Just played it.

    • @pinchebolillosrecordranch
      @pinchebolillosrecordranch  Год назад

      Yep, gonna get me a Canadian pressing ASAP

  • @farrellmcnulty909
    @farrellmcnulty909 Год назад +2

    I have that Lumpy Money set which features the mono version of We're Only In It for the Money, AS WELL AS THE 1995 RYKO reissue, but I've never done an A-B test.

    • @pinchebolillosrecordranch
      @pinchebolillosrecordranch  Год назад +1

      That's right! I completely forgot about that boxed set. Glad you brought that up. I should have mentioned that in the video.

    • @farrellmcnulty909
      @farrellmcnulty909 Год назад +1

      @@pinchebolillosrecordranch It's cool because you get Lumpy Gravy the way Zappa originally intended it. I even had a Record Store Day LP of it on 12" 45. I'm sorry I got rid of it. After a while, I thought, "eh...it's okay, but..." I prefer the Mothers version with all the paranoid piano talk 😄

    • @pinchebolillosrecordranch
      @pinchebolillosrecordranch  Год назад +1

      @@farrellmcnulty909 I agree. I found the original version of Lumpy Gravy online years and years ago that someone bootlegged off a tape and...yeah...it's better with all the talking and extra sound effects. 👍✌️👊🤙

    • @farrellmcnulty909
      @farrellmcnulty909 Год назад +1

      @@pinchebolillosrecordranch If I'm not mistaken, I thought I heard Zappa was coming out with a set like MOFO or LUMPY MONEY, centered around ABSOLUTELY FREE. Not sure if it came out already or if it didn't happen at all. I'd forgoten about it til just now.

    • @pinchebolillosrecordranch
      @pinchebolillosrecordranch  Год назад

      I wouldn't be surprised if they do. I can't keep track of those new releases. 🤣

  • @andrewhoran7088
    @andrewhoran7088 Год назад +2

    Maybe your cat is into Zappa too

  • @2cozmick25
    @2cozmick25 Год назад +1

    Verve really didn't know frank at all cause we all know if he meant sanitary napkin well thats exactly what he would of said. I've really enjoyd your show i watched the first one and thought i really want to hear the next one. The big problem i have is now i need to listen to some of my verve and the other labels just to find out did i get the gem or the bs. I'm sure my barking pumkin lps are absolutely what Frank intended. Been a big fan for, well decades and i'm not gonna say oh yea yhe first time i heard him i was hooked, naw it took a few times listening and like a bolt of lightning it hit me, damm this dude is great. But now listning to your info on edited , so much edited, i,m gonna seriously need topull out a couple to check,lps i haven,t listened to for decades. But since its been so long i'm sure i'm gonna have a good listen anyways. I apoligize i left without saying thank you, so for real thank you

    • @pinchebolillosrecordranch
      @pinchebolillosrecordranch  Год назад

      Thank you and glad you liked it. I've got a few ideas for upcoming videos where I'll be going over some comedy albums (Cheech and Chong albums will be talked about), but I'll do some more Zappa videos soon, too. For sure the next one will be about his years at Reprise Records.

    • @farrellmcnulty909
      @farrellmcnulty909 Год назад +1

      God forbid somebody would write a song about somebody wiping their mouth with a napkin at a restaurant - Ed's Cafe, if you will... YOU CAN'T SAY THAT ON A RECORD - GAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWW😅😅😅

  • @artsahobby123
    @artsahobby123 Год назад +1

    What a great story this is.

  • @cultvult
    @cultvult Год назад +3

    Love the video, but this is the first time Zappa used any provocative or risqué lyrics on an album? Seriously? Have you heard Brown shoes don’t make it? This is my favorite Mothers album too, but the obscenity pales in comparison to earlier albums. Just had to point that out. Anyway, keep up the good work.

    • @pinchebolillosrecordranch
      @pinchebolillosrecordranch  Год назад +2

      Good point about some of the stuff before this album. It just seems like there's more, volume wise in We're Only In It For the Money. I once showed off my copy of Freak Out to a friend of mine at work years ago who was a hippie chick back then and all she could say was, "Suzi Creemcheeze...man they were such a dirty band!" 🤣🤣

    • @farrellmcnulty909
      @farrellmcnulty909 Год назад +1

      @@pinchebolillosrecordranch 😅 I loved hearing later on about "Freak Out" that they had to edit out the word "psychedelic". OH COME ON!!!!

    • @pinchebolillosrecordranch
      @pinchebolillosrecordranch  Год назад

      Really? I didn't know that. 🤣🤣🤣 That's just like Break On Through by The Doors. Jim sang, "She gets high" and they muted "high" on his vocal track. Ever since I was a kid I thought he was singing, "shake it". 🤦‍♂️🤣👍✌️👊🤙

    • @farrellmcnulty909
      @farrellmcnulty909 Год назад +1

      @@pinchebolillosrecordranch ...and the Ed Sullivan show runners told Morrison to not sing "get much higher" on television, but I don't know if it's true or not, but Oliver Stone's "The Doors" shows him singing "higher" anyway.

    • @kjelleriksson2793
      @kjelleriksson2793 Год назад +1

      @@pinchebolillosrecordranch And later uncensored versions of the Doors have dirty talk like fuck.

  • @farrellmcnulty909
    @farrellmcnulty909 Год назад +2

    36:33 - Exactly...about it sounding like the 80s instead of the 60s. I had that awful two-fer from Ryko with Lumpy Gravy and I settled for this, but then I ordered an original Verve pressing from an ad in Goldmine magazine. I was shocked at the yellow photo on the front. I don't think that was replicated on the first Ryko CD. To me, the original cover art on Verve SCREAMED 60s rock album.

    • @pinchebolillosrecordranch
      @pinchebolillosrecordranch  Год назад +1

      Yeah, the remix is so radically different than the original that I have a hard time trying to get through it. Lump Gravy is even worse. Interesting that the original Ryko release may have had the same backwards Verve cover. I used to own a Ryko vinyl reissue and the cover was the same as the Verve release. At some point they did flip the artwork around for the CD. 🤔. Gonna grab some coffee and look that up. ✌️👍🤙👊🙂

    • @farrellmcnulty909
      @farrellmcnulty909 Год назад +1

      @@pinchebolillosrecordranch Can't remember when, but Zappa Records finally put MONEY out on vinyl with the cover the way it was intended - at long last. I don't play that copy very often, but it's so great to finally have intended artwork. Yeah, it does look like a Sgt Pepper parody after all.

    • @farrellmcnulty909
      @farrellmcnulty909 Год назад

      @@pinchebolillosrecordranch I bought that reissued vinyl release, too, expecting the lightly censored material to be restored but Ryko said "thanks for playing" and it was disappointing. I much prefer the Zappa Records packaging. In the right spots, you look at the photos and think "ha ha, I get it now"

  • @TheRENigma1990
    @TheRENigma1990 Год назад +2

    Here I think is the original mother people track with the line that was cut out. ruclips.net/video/9gO-Vi1cbfQ/видео.html

    • @pinchebolillosrecordranch
      @pinchebolillosrecordranch  Год назад

      That's the digital remix Frank did in the 80's, but hey, it still restores the censored line. 🙂. If you get Mothermania compilation from '69, the uncensored version is on there. I think Zappa's kiddos reissued that one on vinyl when they had Bernie Grundman remaster the catalog a few years back.

  • @TheRolfano
    @TheRolfano Год назад +1

    Texans like Zappa? Lol

  • @Mr.Altavoz
    @Mr.Altavoz Год назад +2

    To bad , the sound is terrible...fix that bro, you have a nice voice

    • @pinchebolillosrecordranch
      @pinchebolillosrecordranch  Год назад

      Thanks! I completely agree with you. Shooting all of this with my phone. Real high tech. Takes me back to recording goofy stuff as a kid on a cheap tape recorder. 🤣 Hopefully as the channel grows I'll pick up some better recording equipment.