Had a chance to stop out at eurocycle in Las Vegas in early December when I was visiting the west coast. Not one salesman in the new showroom even looked up at the computer to ask if me or the other two people I came with needed help or anything at all. Not one word was spoken to us! Would not buy from a dealership network like that. Only redeeming part was that the one guy relegated to the used showroom was absolutely awesome! Just happy to talk about what they had and cool stuff that they’ve had previously. I’d stay cautious of euro cycle when buying new. Customer service seems to be down to “get them a bike and get them out”
I started watching you years ago; while purchasing my very first bike... a BMW RnineT. It was way too much bike for a newbie, but I managed to not kill myself (yet). Still my one and only bike. I plan on keeping it until the wheels fall off. I love my RnineT.
I just traded my 2016 R9T for the 2021 R9T Urban G/S 40Ed. It was difficult but I am loving all the updates. I could have loved the 2016 forever. The ergo's on the Scrambler are better for me. It was a sad choice to let go of the old bike. I am glad I did. Now cuise control will help me plan for the four corners. Peace... and ride it like you stole it!!!
Im a newbie rider, taking the msf course, live in a small town, all highway. Im wanting to go with the pure but everyone tells me not to since im new. Think I can get away with it? Of course gotta respect the power and not be dumb on the bike doing fast corners and what not
I have an r ninet pure. I picked it up after totaling a bike and getting pretty jacked up in the process. It took a while getting comfortable on the bmw. Probably a combination of being hesitant to ride after a bad accident and how quirky the bike is. Now, I love it.
BMW has been making bikes before they made cars. They've been making bikes longer than anyone with the exception of Harley and Indian and look at those brands now lol I've ridden countless other brands and bikes, and BMW still blows most of the competition away in my opinion. RnineT especially, I've been in love with that bike since 2014, amazing machine. They get it.
The Japanese still do quality control, reliability, cost of maintenance, and price-to-performance better in my opinion. How has your experience been with reliability and repairs? Bad/expensive? Not trying to talk bad about your bike, but I want your honest opinion.
@@cesartapia610 oh no for sure, 100% agree. Even in the car world, no one does reliability better than the Japanese. But for all around "the best", I find BMW stands alone. And I mean like, say an H2 vs M1000RR (I've ridden both). Sure, H2 is faster in a straight line, but that's about it. The RR is a precision made weapon with high quality finishes and attention to detail. Where as the H2 looks and feels like it was bought at Walmart haha ANYWAY, I digress. I've had 2 BMW's and have 2 close friends who I ride with frequently one also has BMW's, the other has Ducati's. My two BMW's (2014 BMW F800R, bought in 2015, traded for my current bike in 2020) was the most reliable and rock solid bike ever. Put about 30,000 kms on it in the 5 years I had it, and only ever had to do regular oil, and scheduled service at 10,000 and 20,000kms. Each of which costing about 700 CAD. My current bike, 2015 BMW S1000R, bought used July 2020, with 14,000kms, has also been mega mega rock solid. Only have had to do oil and the 20,000km service which again was about 700 CAD. I've put about 7,000kms on it now, I'm obsessed with it. And this is a 7 year old super naked! And can still smoke 98& of anything on 2 or 4 wheels haha Buddy who has also had BMW's has more or less had the exact same experience I have. No problems at all. He also has a 2015 S1000R and an RnineT. Other friend with the Ducati. He has a 999 and a 848 Streetfighter, he's lucky to put 2,000kms a season on them cuz they're always breaking down haha 10-15 years ago, I would say BMW's aren't great, but the last 7-8 years, they have gotten SO, good. Can't recommend them enough.
Ha - I’m 52 and have had 21 bikes. Currently on a ‘22 1250GS and it’s brilliant. If you want to carry half of everything you own at twice the speed limit to cross a country, BMW has a bike for you. It’s unstoppable.
The original GS in that color scheme was a favorite of wasps. You’d stop at a light, the wasps would gather at the yellow stripes. The light would change. You’d edge forward and the wasps would end up in your lap. Always entertaining.
Wasps? Flying insects then I thought bees? maybe? But the Karen thing makes it all clear 😆😄😆. Good one👍 the bike is attractive but yo'all are artists the way you have expressed it.
Just saying, the BMW boxer engine has a longtitudinal crankshaft (as opposed to a transverse crank of a parallel twin) and the rotation experienced on startup is due to the reaction (Newtonian physics) of the spinning crank and flywheel. Happens with single engined aircraft too. The engine is smooth because the pistons move in opposite directions and do a good job of cancelling primary imbalance.
this, own a boxer, but its a car not a bike (vw beetle) and it has a similar jerking motion on startup, but very smooth once running. A longitudinal crankshaft on a vtwin like a motto guzzi or a honda cx should have the same phenomenon.
Got mine in Colombia 3 weeks ago. Everything presented is exactly the experience I have had w/ it. No electric radiator cooling fan, so it overheats easily in the chaotic traffic jams in Bogotá. It definitely is a head turner and talking piece, no way to go unnoticed. I am a 72 year old dude having fun all the way! (moved up from a F800R 1st production run which was the worst investment ever.)
I had one in 2018 and loved it, suspensions and oil consumption was the weak point (maybe they've improved since), the rest of the bike was really a blast to ride and sounded amazing even with stock pipe. Loads of torque from the get go.
To turn off cruise control as well while its active, just roll the throttle a little bit forward beyond its normal stopping point and it will disengage cruise control without having to engage the clutch or disable cruise control entirely
The bumble-beemer is approachable and well mannered with a few quirks. Might handle better with a milk crate, and a cupholder. This is my takeaway. Thanks for the review Yam!
The roadster BMWs have always been great bikes. The R1250R is a great all purpose street bike. It has all of the power you really need and will do about anything you want it to do. The BMW Rs that are not tourers or GSs have always been one of the better kept secrets in motorcycling. This bike falls right in line with that.
I have a r1250r. Technically one of the best bikes I ever had. Just lacks a bit of soul, kinda liked my Kawa z900rs better for the way it looked but this Bmw is really something special too. Hope you can do a review of one. Almost everything that found it a bit boring or wasnt that interested, changed their minds after riding one. So did I. Still dont find it a beautiful bike but it just does everything so well it is really a secret in the bmw lineup.
@@lapinobel I have an 04 r1150r. I have 45,000 miles on it. It has been bomb proof. Every time I think I need a new bike, I ask myself why and the only answer I have is that I am tired of looking at or I feel like I can’t just have one bike forever. It has been great
@@johnkluge3421 I had a '96 BMW R1100RS. Nice enough bike, but very top heavy and hard to steer in city traffic. Excellent fairing and comfort for freeway rides though; I really appreciated having that after upgrading from a small naked bike. I don't trust BMW reliability though, it's got to be one of the worst in the business. Complicated engine, dry clutch (not good for dense traffic), tons of electrical gremlins, and the earlier ones used to eat transmissions (splines needed better lubing from the factory), weak charging system. Super expensive to repair when something goes wrong. I liked it, but BMW isn't up to Japanese standards of quality control. I'd rather be riding than wrenching, and self service/repair on Japanese bikes is just so much more user friendly. They're better for my budget, but even if I were rich, I wouldn't want to have to spend so much more money on an already expensive vehicle. Just my two cents.
@@cesartapia610 I find my R to be very light and easy in traffic. And you just get used to the clutch. Since buying it new and putting right at 45,000 miles on it, a lot of that commenting in heavy traffic, I have replaced the starter, alternator, and the command unit on the left handle bar. That is pretty good reliability for that much use. I have ridden the hell out of that bike and it has never let me down.
Yep, us BMW riders are dorks. 😁 I'm ok with it. Have a '72/R75/5 and a 2000/R1100R. Love them both! My best friend *Harley rider" sure is glad when all their gear fits in ny panniers and top case cuz their Sportster has no storage. Thanks for reviewing and boxer Yammie. It was great seeing one on the show.
Nice bike. Really wanted one when the 9T first came out but that urge quickly faded. Now I’m an old guy on a Adv. bike! Great vid.
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The original NineT (black) is the best one... equipment wise (it includes the rev counter) and des not try to "fake" a off road capacity. and yes...at 20K, it should not do anything wrong.
my dad has a 2016 rninet that I've ridden once before and its so nice, very neutral compared to my sv with rear sets and clip ons and has the dual gauges which might be possible to swap onto this since its essentially the same motorcycle
That's a gorgeous bike. I love Beemers, having been brought up around them, but even I have to admit some of the recent ones are entirely soulless and lifeless. This isn't one of them. Much like the r18, it's not perfect, but it's FULL of character and charm. I'd solidly recommend you get an older air cooled boxer model from the 80s or 90s and rip around with that, compare it to the urban GS while you have it in the shop etc, if you really want to know what a beemer should feel like. Might be a whole new goldmine of hilarious content to explore for multiple bikes.
And the pre Euro 5 models have soo much more character and soul again than the Euro 5. The Euro 4's definitely don't feel smooth as an electric as described here - they shake and vibrate and feel more alive.
Funny you bring up EuroCycle. I almost bought a Triumph Daytona 765 moto 2 from them a few mths ago before getting my R6. They had it priced 4k below others. Issue was our insurance rates in Texas.
Years ago in Phoenix I rolled up to a light next to a gentleman on a R90S on a Kawasaki 900 and asked if he wanted to race…he said “sure, to Argentina and back”, smiled and turned right and left…
Came to say this - bought my 2021 RnineT pure with spoked wheels and both packages for about $12K - Simple, durable, amazing bike - with $6K left over for adventures, custom mods, etc...
Rninety has a dual instrument option with the tach. Great commute bike with torque and horsepower all below 8000 rpm. All you need for the street or fire road. Nice looking, unique bike. Not on every corner like a Yamaha or Honda. I almost bought one. It still is on my list
My 2010 BMW F650 GS 800cc parallel twin is sewing machine smooth with a great shifting trans. It makes going 40mph on dirt roads seem like 20mph. The electric/computer/ABS stuff still works, just wish parts were cheaper and dealer service was closer.
Yam dropping some wrist watch enthusiasm. I've always wondered what watch you wear in your podcasts? I have to admit this is an absolutely beautiful bike but, like BMW cars, not my personal style. Thanks for the content!
To be perfectly honest I do like BMW and I have owned several GS models and traveled around Australia and New Zealand . Currently, own a Harley Iron 883, and like this bike for a ADV Light touring unit. We don’t had fancy high ways here the roads outside the CBD kind of stink and are kind of rough But that only me.
With the hookup you have at EuroCycles, it'd be cool to see more BMW reviews. I like the RnineT, but to see the new R1250R or have Spike do the R 18 B would also be neat. Not to even mention the S1000RR. Or even a joke vid like the Ural.
I was able to ride the R18 during a factory demo this summer. It really was a beast. It pulls like no one's business with all that torque....not a bad thing at all! It was a blast but I'll stick to my R 72 and 2000 bikes.
One thing you're missing with the BMWs and their boxer motors is their long life. No other motorcycle get the miles that these motors can. You often see BMWs on the second hand market with 200.000 and 300.000 km on the meter. That's insane on a motorcycle!
*"One thing you're missing with the...boxer motors is their long life. No other...get the miles that these motors can."* Honda Goldwing: "Am I joke to you?"
Always enjoy your reviews and opinions. This is definitely one of my favorite channels on RUclips. Maybe I didn’t see it properly or hear it right.. did you say this bike makes you want to obey traffic laws as you allegedly blew through a stop sign😂
I used to PURPOSELY use my cylinder heads to pivot on, for tight corners. The shaft drive, especially on the "air heads" caused something called "shaft reaction" which meant you absolutely had to be on the throttle for corners. If you came off the throttle in the middle of the corners, it would lift the rear wheel so the traction would drop. Timing it right, you could get a really sharp, low speed turn by tossing the weight onto the heads, killing the throttle, shift the weight then throttle it again for a 90 degree rotation in the parking lot! Find yourself an "old school" BMW rider who has fun, and let them show you what they can do. Oh, and the even the old bikes had gentle rev limiters, so I was taught to drive it at redline minus 500 rpm.
As an owner of a r9t (pure sport) hes on the money you gotta ride it different you can hit twistes with it i tested that and it can handle off road just fine it dose get real hot real fast if you aren't moving though. I normally do long rides with it eith 100 miles or i do touring with it 2,000+. Its able to do a lot but it dosen't excel at any thing particular. Also the passenger seat ist that comfortable. And the heated grips are amazing for long cold rides
I love the look of the Urban G/S and really want one, but I'm torn between a Ducati Desert Sled and this, the Desert Sled just seems better equipped as a Scrambler and has more character according to some, but the Urban G/S looks better and probably drives better on road. If it came down to cost, Ducati, but if I had free choice, I'd really need to ride both to decide.
I have the raw beast BMW R nine T scrambler, 2017 model, and it oozes character! unfortunately the later models are "tarted" up too much, with flashy paint schemes, and other unnecessary features, but the earlier models are very much a proper bike! I too love my R Nine T beast, what a perfect ride for twisty lanes!
An off road test (with off road tires, of course) and a comparison against your Desert Sled would be surely appreciated by the community of followers and those who aren’t on the boat yet. I laugh a lot with the comments on BMW riders 😂👍🏼
As someone who went to St. Stephen’s for high school (and no longer live in Austin), I loved seeing the drive along 360, past Cedar Lane…which used to be the only way in and out of campus.
Hey Yam, great review. Expensive bike, not great color, but do like overall look and shaft drive / boxer. Very heavy, and the basic specs beg for $$ add ons. Need you a good GSA. Got me one ‘in the mail’
Gettin' sloppy? 13:13 @ West Courtyard Dr. & Bridge Point Pkwy intersection, blew right thru that 3-way stop sign at 25 mph. Must be trying to make them precision-ridin' Bimmer boys look bad... No Lime Creek Rd. for you!
BMW's (in my experience) benefit enormously from using a Power Commander to rich up the off-idle. Makes them much less to prone to stalling during a light lug.
I believe that is from Euro5 emission bullshit, and not to do with the bike. Lots of cars have this also. Better check if it is legal before doing that kind of stuff to a bike. Or you can get problems.
The 9T series bikes sit in an odd space amongst the crowd. I don’t want to say it’s a fashion show bike, but I think most people are drawn to them for the style or the “idea” of owning a retro styled bike. BMW took the safe route with the motor to make it fun enough for the platform. I own the dedicated scrambler version, and while I DO have a blast riding it, there’s something’s to be desired. The small stuff like the tach, seat, tank, color, etc is all like Lego pieces amongst the line. You can customize these bikes to your liking. With that said, I’ve gotten more compliments on the scrambler than I can count. The sound, the looks, and the somewhat uniqueness to it makes it special. The quality is there, but I don’t necessarily think it’s worth 20k of fun. But then again, neither is a Rolex. Enjoy it for what it is, and push it hard (because it can take it). Note* I do think your chances with girls will drastically increase with a 9T, just park at a coffee shop and let them come to you.
I feel this bike would appeal to riders seeking an alternative to the cruiser style. I did meet one reformed vee twin cruiser owner on an R9T during an underground TT event. He was loving life. To each, their own. Cheers.
I really wish I would have watched your channel before buying my first bike. I bought an RnineT Pure as my first bike and now I kind of regret it compared to the other choices. Would have probably went with the XSR 900, 2023 that is. Anyways, great content!
Another great open-minded review. I loved this bike (spent 4.5hrs test riding it so far-definitely on the short list for the next bike). Can we have Witney’s opinion on it?
I had the opportunity to ride a friends urban GS last summer, and agree with most of your points Yammie. I was supprised with the comfort (compared to my ZX12R 😜) and the shudder on start up feels very odd, it's a nice bike but i won't be running out to buy one anytime soon.
The next level up version of an R-Nine T has dual clocks and radial front Brembo's . Plus adjustable 46mm adjustable front forks and better road tires. A bit more road focused version .
Watched a video of there manufacturing process. Well they put more into QC on the assembly line that is worth the few thousand dollar difference. Don't have a bike yet. But working on that!
No, they rank near last in Consumer Reports reliability surgery after 5 years of ownership. Yamaha and Honda would have much better quality control since they have less failures right?
Some notes, my KTM 690R and my BMW RNineT both have a hydraulic clutch and I do prefer the feel, you hardly have to pull on the lever. I wish that the RNineT had a quickshifter/auto-blipper. My RNineT has a very good sounding factory exhaust and I have never contemplated changing it. A tachometer is a very expensive option. For that matter, I wish the the 690R had a tachometer too. I have the opposite experience with mine, first gear is easy to find and neutral is a near mystery, same thing on my S1000RR. If fact I could say the same thing about the KTM, which can be quite a challenge to find neutral with. Heated grips are worth every penny. Here in MI, I've used heated grips even in summer months and I'll be adding them to the KTM. I would take the RNineT over a Harley any day of the week. I consider my RNineT to be my cruiser bike.
That is a really pretty bike. BMW succeeded at the looks, but I am a spec sheet loving speed demon so it isn’t in my taste. Looking at it I guessed about 135hp and $12,000 so I’m guessing I look at the big 4 to much. That said I would definitely get some tickets for a giveaway if you fall in love with it and decide to buy. Lol
Re: the cost, you can get one of these in good shape for ~10k now if you're willing to get used and the different paint scheme--a plus in my book. My 2018 Euro4 spec (minor mods to 5, some better some worse) was showroom clean with low miles, but get one with high miles to save some $$ if you can. These are very reliable and can handle the wear without issue. Not a lot of hooning happening on these so used = may not even be broken in. Maintenance is simple and easily DIY-able and break/fix genuinely uncommon (based on forums, not just my experience). I upgraded the gauge to electronic for the tach, so felt that was necessary. Disagree with the review on the transmission, but maybe that's just my experience, coming off Triumphs this is net neutral though not equivalent. Also disagree with the review on suspension; I get jolted pretty good from deep seams on the hwy or potholes and people typically factor in suspension mods front and back which can get pricey. The racer/classic has the good bits there but is a different riding position and not comfortable like the scrambler/Urban GS. But "total package"-wise, it's a fantastic bike for what it is, if the style suits your needs. It can handle as well as you can fling it, it's comfortable up to 80MPH (until the wind gets you), and you will never long for power.
Cons of the R90 Urban GS are: non adjustable forks, no RPM, no Fuel indicator and you really don't want to take it off-road other than that its an engineering masterpiece.
On the note of hyrdraulic clutches. I have experienced hydraulic brake failure and I've experienced mechanical brake failure. From a safety aspect I would much prefer hydraulic brakes. 9 times out of ten you will feel it going out unlike a mechanical one with a broken cable that just instantly goes out. I've (knock on wood) never had clutch failure. I'm a bit scared of it happening at speed to be honest. With a hydraulic clutch I would certainly notice that the clutch is acting funny. Instead of it just suddenly going out.
why would it matter if it happened at speed? Clutchless shifting is pretty easy and the brakes can override the engine power. I'd be much more worried about a clutch cable snapping while stationary, though depending on the power of the bike and the situation, you'd probably just stall it
On my last bike I didn't have a clutch failure per se.. But going hot into a corner I noticed that the screw holding my clutch lever rattled itself loose and flew away.. Believe me, it's not a fun feeling when you somehow have to decelerate for a tight corner without a clutch. Stomping on the shifter to slow down and finally stop is probably not that good for your transmission either.
Love watching irish tt racing... but to be fair if you put Guy martin or William dunlop on any brand of bike they still win. Saw a race that dunlop had rolled up on a s1k that was straight of the dealership lot no mods and still destroyed everyone 😳
Like a Harley, smoother isn't always better. This is supposed to be a tractor. So compared to the character of the engine, I think the transmission is too smooth like you said. I like the clunk with the camhead boxer in the R1200GS (same engine).
@@pouncer11 I much prefer the smooth and tight click of a Kawasaki transmission. Those Getrags are a little too unrefined for my taste. What did you think about your RS? I liked mine, but I hated how expensive the repair bills were. Lots of electrical gremlins too; the low beam didn't even work.
I tour on a GS with the the same engine. Once you are used to it, this engine makes touring more relaxing, not needing the brakes saves effort (and brake pads), especially on sweeping bends. If you really want to get on it - then it's a pain in the proverbial as it makes rev matching more difficult when revving 5k upwards. That was not what this bike was designed for, which makes the café racer iterations of this bike somewhat odd.
In the vid you mentioned that you were low on fuel, does that mean the 2022 version has a fuel and/or rev gauge? I know older versions don't and it's really a must-have for ya boy.
Still no fuel gauge that I'm aware of, at least my '21 doesn't. It has the low fuel warning light when you have like a gallon of gas left. And I believe they've always had the tachometers, just on the top model only or you can add it on. Still the same.
Funny... I test rode an R Nine T(the original) a few years ago and thought it was one of the most rowdy, ruckus bikes I'd ever been on.... All I wanted to do on it was rip around back roads and be bad ☠
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13:15 hi this is the PD you need to send me $50 for running that stop thanks
Would be awesome if they sent you a Moto Guzzi V100 to review when it's available.
11:40 Dual clocks are an option spec on the R9T. Most people like the single clock setup for a retro classic so that was made standerd.
Had a chance to stop out at eurocycle in Las Vegas in early December when I was visiting the west coast. Not one salesman in the new showroom even looked up at the computer to ask if me or the other two people I came with needed help or anything at all. Not one word was spoken to us! Would not buy from a dealership network like that. Only redeeming part was that the one guy relegated to the used showroom was absolutely awesome! Just happy to talk about what they had and cool stuff that they’ve had previously. I’d stay cautious of euro cycle when buying new. Customer service seems to be down to “get them a bike and get them out”
I have a 1998 R1200C if you want to test out. You just have to have it shipped from CA.
I started watching you years ago; while purchasing my very first bike... a BMW RnineT. It was way too much bike for a newbie, but I managed to not kill myself (yet). Still my one and only bike. I plan on keeping it until the wheels fall off. I love my RnineT.
How's the service/maintenance on it? Can you do it yourself? Is it expensive? Anything fail/brake yet? Recalls? Thanks.
@@cesartapia610 Bike has been tried and true. Zero issues. I have pay $400 a year for dealer Maintainence, that I’m sure I could do on my own.
@@jakelongleg That is awesome, dude. Good stuff. Makes me happy to see someone enjoying their bike.
I just traded my 2016 R9T for the 2021 R9T Urban G/S 40Ed.
It was difficult but I am loving all the updates.
I could have loved the 2016 forever. The ergo's on the Scrambler are better for me. It was a sad choice to let go of the old bike. I am glad I did. Now cuise control will help me plan for the four corners.
Peace...
and ride it like you stole it!!!
Im a newbie rider, taking the msf course, live in a small town, all highway.
Im wanting to go with the pure but everyone tells me not to since im new.
Think I can get away with it? Of course gotta respect the power and not be dumb on the bike doing fast corners and what not
"You don't have to lube the shaft, just ride it and have some fun with it"
-Yammie Noob 2022
Meme contest worthy for sure
That's what he said
came straight to the comments when i heard that
Awesome statement lol
I have an r ninet pure. I picked it up after totaling a bike and getting pretty jacked up in the process. It took a while getting comfortable on the bmw. Probably a combination of being hesitant to ride after a bad accident and how quirky the bike is. Now, I love it.
BMW has been making bikes before they made cars. They've been making bikes longer than anyone with the exception of Harley and Indian and look at those brands now lol I've ridden countless other brands and bikes, and BMW still blows most of the competition away in my opinion. RnineT especially, I've been in love with that bike since 2014, amazing machine. They get it.
The Japanese still do quality control, reliability, cost of maintenance, and price-to-performance better in my opinion. How has your experience been with reliability and repairs? Bad/expensive? Not trying to talk bad about your bike, but I want your honest opinion.
@@cesartapia610 oh no for sure, 100% agree. Even in the car world, no one does reliability better than the Japanese. But for all around "the best", I find BMW stands alone. And I mean like, say an H2 vs M1000RR (I've ridden both). Sure, H2 is faster in a straight line, but that's about it. The RR is a precision made weapon with high quality finishes and attention to detail. Where as the H2 looks and feels like it was bought at Walmart haha ANYWAY, I digress. I've had 2 BMW's and have 2 close friends who I ride with frequently one also has BMW's, the other has Ducati's. My two BMW's (2014 BMW F800R, bought in 2015, traded for my current bike in 2020) was the most reliable and rock solid bike ever. Put about 30,000 kms on it in the 5 years I had it, and only ever had to do regular oil, and scheduled service at 10,000 and 20,000kms. Each of which costing about 700 CAD. My current bike, 2015 BMW S1000R, bought used July 2020, with 14,000kms, has also been mega mega rock solid. Only have had to do oil and the 20,000km service which again was about 700 CAD. I've put about 7,000kms on it now, I'm obsessed with it. And this is a 7 year old super naked! And can still smoke 98& of anything on 2 or 4 wheels haha Buddy who has also had BMW's has more or less had the exact same experience I have. No problems at all. He also has a 2015 S1000R and an RnineT. Other friend with the Ducati. He has a 999 and a 848 Streetfighter, he's lucky to put 2,000kms a season on them cuz they're always breaking down haha 10-15 years ago, I would say BMW's aren't great, but the last 7-8 years, they have gotten SO, good. Can't recommend them enough.
Ha - I’m 52 and have had 21 bikes. Currently on a ‘22 1250GS and it’s brilliant. If you want to carry half of everything you own at twice the speed limit to cross a country, BMW has a bike for you. It’s unstoppable.
I've owned close to 11 motorcycles in 20 years, the 2020 R9T/5 is the only one I've actually kept.
close to 11.. so like, 10?
@@Alistair ha, 10 1/2. 2014 ural gear up
The original GS in that color scheme was a favorite of wasps. You’d stop at a light, the wasps would gather at the yellow stripes. The light would change. You’d edge forward and the wasps would end up in your lap. Always entertaining.
I had a yellow Ducati 748s and OMG ! it was a nightmare when it came to flying insects ! something that would never have crossed my mind before
Thought you meant wasp as in white Anglo Saxon protestants at first. Last thing I'd want is a bunch of Karen's swarming at me, I'll take the insects.
Wasps? Flying insects then I thought bees? maybe? But the Karen thing makes it all clear 😆😄😆. Good one👍 the bike is attractive but yo'all are artists the way you have expressed it.
Just saying, the BMW boxer engine has a longtitudinal crankshaft (as opposed to a transverse crank of a parallel twin) and the rotation experienced on startup is due to the reaction (Newtonian physics) of the spinning crank and flywheel. Happens with single engined aircraft too. The engine is smooth because the pistons move in opposite directions and do a good job of cancelling primary imbalance.
this, own a boxer, but its a car not a bike (vw beetle) and it has a similar jerking motion on startup, but very smooth once running. A longitudinal crankshaft on a vtwin like a motto guzzi or a honda cx should have the same phenomenon.
Got mine in Colombia 3 weeks ago. Everything presented is exactly the experience I have had w/ it. No electric radiator cooling fan, so it overheats easily in the chaotic traffic jams in Bogotá. It definitely is a head turner and talking piece, no way to go unnoticed. I am a 72 year old dude having fun all the way! (moved up from a F800R 1st production run which was the worst investment ever.)
I had one in 2018 and loved it, suspensions and oil consumption was the weak point (maybe they've improved since), the rest of the bike was really a blast to ride and sounded amazing even with stock pipe. Loads of torque from the get go.
To turn off cruise control as well while its active, just roll the throttle a little bit forward beyond its normal stopping point and it will disengage cruise control without having to engage the clutch or disable cruise control entirely
The bumble-beemer is approachable and well mannered with a few quirks. Might handle better with a milk crate, and a cupholder. This is my takeaway. Thanks for the review Yam!
This could be a legit review in a periodical, the visuals are great. Beautiful writing my friend.
Cupholder? On a motorcycle?
@@kokilimonke Hi, new here?
@@kokilimonke I've come SO CLOSE to mounting one on mine so many times.
Would be so convenient.
A milk crate. Huzzah a man of culture😂😂😂
The roadster BMWs have always been great bikes. The R1250R is a great all purpose street bike. It has all of the power you really need and will do about anything you want it to do. The BMW Rs that are not tourers or GSs have always been one of the better kept secrets in motorcycling. This bike falls right in line with that.
I have a r1250r. Technically one of the best bikes I ever had. Just lacks a bit of soul, kinda liked my Kawa z900rs better for the way it looked but this Bmw is really something special too. Hope you can do a review of one. Almost everything that found it a bit boring or wasnt that interested, changed their minds after riding one. So did I. Still dont find it a beautiful bike but it just does everything so well it is really a secret in the bmw lineup.
@@lapinobel I have an 04 r1150r. I have 45,000 miles on it. It has been bomb proof. Every time I think I need a new bike, I ask myself why and the only answer I have is that I am tired of looking at or I feel like I can’t just have one bike forever. It has been great
@@johnkluge3421 I had a '96 BMW R1100RS. Nice enough bike, but very top heavy and hard to steer in city traffic. Excellent fairing and comfort for freeway rides though; I really appreciated having that after upgrading from a small naked bike. I don't trust BMW reliability though, it's got to be one of the worst in the business. Complicated engine, dry clutch (not good for dense traffic), tons of electrical gremlins, and the earlier ones used to eat transmissions (splines needed better lubing from the factory), weak charging system. Super expensive to repair when something goes wrong. I liked it, but BMW isn't up to Japanese standards of quality control. I'd rather be riding than wrenching, and self service/repair on Japanese bikes is just so much more user friendly. They're better for my budget, but even if I were rich, I wouldn't want to have to spend so much more money on an already expensive vehicle. Just my two cents.
@@cesartapia610 I find my R to be very light and easy in traffic. And you just get used to the clutch. Since buying it new and putting right at 45,000 miles on it, a lot of that commenting in heavy traffic, I have replaced the starter, alternator, and the command unit on the left handle bar. That is pretty good reliability for that much use. I have ridden the hell out of that bike and it has never let me down.
@@johnkluge3421 That's great. I'm glad it's served you well, and that you've enjoyed it a whole lot.
Yep, us BMW riders are dorks. 😁
I'm ok with it. Have a '72/R75/5 and a 2000/R1100R. Love them both!
My best friend *Harley rider" sure is glad when all their gear fits in ny panniers and top case cuz their Sportster has no storage.
Thanks for reviewing and boxer Yammie. It was great seeing one on the show.
Ayyyyy r75 mate
@@fiestahimself9135 Love it!
Nice bike. Really wanted one when the 9T first came out but that urge quickly faded. Now I’m an old guy on a Adv. bike! Great vid.
The original NineT (black) is the best one... equipment wise (it includes the rev counter) and des not try to "fake" a off road capacity. and yes...at 20K, it should not do anything wrong.
my dad has a 2016 rninet that I've ridden once before and its so nice, very neutral compared to my sv with rear sets and clip ons and has the dual gauges which might be possible to swap onto this since its essentially the same motorcycle
It's not that it shouldn't do anything wrong for 20k. It's more that it should dedicate itself to perfection in its specialization
@@yuriteixeira5816 well it does: it really impresses other people at the local café.
@ but at that point is that all you're buying it for? To impress people?
That's a gorgeous bike. I love Beemers, having been brought up around them, but even I have to admit some of the recent ones are entirely soulless and lifeless. This isn't one of them. Much like the r18, it's not perfect, but it's FULL of character and charm. I'd solidly recommend you get an older air cooled boxer model from the 80s or 90s and rip around with that, compare it to the urban GS while you have it in the shop etc, if you really want to know what a beemer should feel like. Might be a whole new goldmine of hilarious content to explore for multiple bikes.
And the pre Euro 5 models have soo much more character and soul again than the Euro 5. The Euro 4's definitely don't feel smooth as an electric as described here - they shake and vibrate and feel more alive.
Funny you bring up EuroCycle. I almost bought a Triumph Daytona 765 moto 2 from them a few mths ago before getting my R6. They had it priced 4k below others. Issue was our insurance rates in Texas.
I've been canyon carving all my BMW Boxers for years and SHAMING Yammie riders in the process....!
AMEN.... and we are not dorks.... yammy-shammy-mammy-pajammy! lol
Years ago in Phoenix I rolled up to a light next to a gentleman on a R90S on a Kawasaki 900 and asked if he wanted to race…he said “sure, to Argentina and back”, smiled and turned right and left…
Hey I'd just like to say, I like the new editing style on this video. It's very quirky and fun and I like it alot!
"This bike is eliciting for me to perfectly behave."
Completely blows a stop sign without slowing down
Also, for the price, the R NineT Pure is a great deal. $10,995 and looks real clean
Came to say this - bought my 2021 RnineT pure with spoked wheels and both packages for about $12K - Simple, durable, amazing bike - with $6K left over for adventures, custom mods, etc...
You're an honest and good dude. Hats off to ya for trying the known unknowns.
Yes please! Do a dirt comparison between the R9T and Desert sled. Throw some 50-50 tires on the BMW to give it somewhat a chance.
Rninety has a dual instrument option with the tach. Great commute bike with torque and horsepower all below 8000 rpm. All you need for the street or fire road. Nice looking, unique bike. Not on every corner like a Yamaha or Honda. I almost bought one. It still is on my list
My 2010 BMW F650 GS 800cc parallel twin is sewing machine smooth with a great shifting trans. It makes going 40mph on dirt roads seem like 20mph. The electric/computer/ABS stuff still works, just wish parts were cheaper and dealer service was closer.
Yam dropping some wrist watch enthusiasm. I've always wondered what watch you wear in your podcasts? I have to admit this is an absolutely beautiful bike but, like BMW cars, not my personal style. Thanks for the content!
I wear a Tissot my dad gave to me as my first “Adult” watch. But I’m getting an Omega Speedmaster for my 30th
@@yammienoob Nice choice, stay safe
To be perfectly honest I do like BMW and I have owned several GS models and traveled around Australia and New Zealand . Currently, own a
Harley Iron 883, and like this bike for a ADV Light touring unit. We don’t had fancy high ways here the roads outside the CBD kind of stink and are kind of rough But that only me.
With the hookup you have at EuroCycles, it'd be cool to see more BMW reviews. I like the RnineT, but to see the new R1250R or have Spike do the R 18 B would also be neat. Not to even mention the S1000RR.
Or even a joke vid like the Ural.
yeah I am curious about the urals... for that price you can get many, many other things
they already had a R18 for weeks from eurocycles and made only a single video about it. what a shame
@@metalproofed3089 R18 riders are not motorcycle riders. They are beast tamers. Makes sense that they only did 1 video 🤣
I was able to ride the R18 during a factory demo this summer. It really was a beast. It pulls like no one's business with all that torque....not a bad thing at all!
It was a blast but I'll stick to my R 72 and 2000 bikes.
One thing you're missing with the BMWs and their boxer motors is their long life. No other motorcycle get the miles that these motors can. You often see BMWs on the second hand market with 200.000 and 300.000 km on the meter. That's insane on a motorcycle!
*"One thing you're missing with the...boxer motors is their long life. No other...get the miles that these motors can."*
Honda Goldwing: "Am I joke to you?"
@@JViello The Yamaha xj900's also gets up there.
Always enjoy your reviews and opinions. This is definitely one of my favorite channels on RUclips. Maybe I didn’t see it properly or hear it right.. did you say this bike makes you want to obey traffic laws as you allegedly blew through a stop sign😂
Shaft drive with low engine is a nice combination. I could be happy just with this bike.
I used to PURPOSELY use my cylinder heads to pivot on, for tight corners. The shaft drive, especially on the "air heads" caused something called "shaft reaction" which meant you absolutely had to be on the throttle for corners. If you came off the throttle in the middle of the corners, it would lift the rear wheel so the traction would drop. Timing it right, you could get a really sharp, low speed turn by tossing the weight onto the heads, killing the throttle, shift the weight then throttle it again for a 90 degree rotation in the parking lot! Find yourself an "old school" BMW rider who has fun, and let them show you what they can do. Oh, and the even the old bikes had gentle rev limiters, so I was taught to drive it at redline minus 500 rpm.
I own a NineT. Its a rider's bike. I have the pure. No rider aids outside of ABS. Fun bike. Alot of fun. Love BMW. I'm a shaft-luber from way back.
As an owner of a r9t (pure sport) hes on the money you gotta ride it different you can hit twistes with it i tested that and it can handle off road just fine it dose get real hot real fast if you aren't moving though. I normally do long rides with it eith 100 miles or i do touring with it 2,000+. Its able to do a lot but it dosen't excel at any thing particular. Also the passenger seat ist that comfortable. And the heated grips are amazing for long cold rides
The character is in that awesome BMW engine sticking out on both sides.
I love the look of the Urban G/S and really want one, but I'm torn between a Ducati Desert Sled and this, the Desert Sled just seems better equipped as a Scrambler and has more character according to some, but the Urban G/S looks better and probably drives better on road. If it came down to cost, Ducati, but if I had free choice, I'd really need to ride both to decide.
Take it from me: get the desert sled. It’s more fun to ride and 50lbs lighter
I'd like to see a desert sled vs. R9T comparison.
You can say anything about the specs, but It is a beautiful motor
The bad roll-out characteristics of the bike is due to the single plate dry clutch that the 1170 boxer engine uses.
Way to blow through that stop sign at 13:13 homie.... Your passion for Beemer Bashing is impairing your riding!
I have the raw beast BMW R nine T scrambler, 2017 model, and it oozes character! unfortunately the later models are "tarted" up too much, with flashy paint schemes, and other unnecessary features, but the earlier models are very much a proper bike! I too love my R Nine T beast, what a perfect ride for twisty lanes!
Is another sign of the apocalypse that Yam doesn’t hate a BMW?
Exactly what i realized 😂😂
I can tell you’ve never had a clutch cable snap when you were on the road. 🤣🤣🤣
An off road test (with off road tires, of course) and a comparison against your Desert Sled would be surely appreciated by the community of followers and those who aren’t on the boat yet. I laugh a lot with the comments on BMW riders 😂👍🏼
As someone who went to St. Stephen’s for high school (and no longer live in Austin), I loved seeing the drive along 360, past Cedar Lane…which used to be the only way in and out of campus.
I own a Scrambler Icon and a GSA 1250, I feel like I just watched Yammie ride their love child.
Hey Yam, great review. Expensive bike, not great color, but do like overall look and shaft drive / boxer. Very heavy, and the basic specs beg for $$ add ons. Need you a good GSA. Got me one ‘in the mail’
Gettin' sloppy? 13:13 @ West Courtyard Dr. & Bridge Point Pkwy intersection, blew right thru that 3-way stop sign at 25 mph. Must be trying to make them precision-ridin' Bimmer boys look bad... No Lime Creek Rd. for you!
Please try out an S1000XR, you will like it on the road and the track…
BMW's (in my experience) benefit enormously from using a Power Commander to rich up the off-idle. Makes them much less to prone to stalling during a light lug.
I believe that is from Euro5 emission bullshit, and not to do with the bike. Lots of cars have this also. Better check if it is legal before doing that kind of stuff to a bike. Or you can get problems.
The 9T series bikes sit in an odd space amongst the crowd. I don’t want to say it’s a fashion show bike, but I think most people are drawn to them for the style or the “idea” of owning a retro styled bike. BMW took the safe route with the motor to make it fun enough for the platform. I own the dedicated scrambler version, and while I DO have a blast riding it, there’s something’s to be desired. The small stuff like the tach, seat, tank, color, etc is all like Lego pieces amongst the line. You can customize these bikes to your liking. With that said, I’ve gotten more compliments on the scrambler than I can count. The sound, the looks, and the somewhat uniqueness to it makes it special. The quality is there, but I don’t necessarily think it’s worth 20k of fun. But then again, neither is a Rolex. Enjoy it for what it is, and push it hard (because it can take it). Note* I do think your chances with girls will drastically increase with a 9T, just park at a coffee shop and let them come to you.
I feel this bike would appeal to riders seeking an alternative to the cruiser style. I did meet one reformed vee twin cruiser owner on an R9T during an underground TT event. He was loving life. To each, their own. Cheers.
I really wish I would have watched your channel before buying my first bike. I bought an RnineT Pure as my first bike and now I kind of regret it compared to the other choices. Would have probably went with the XSR 900, 2023 that is. Anyways, great content!
Another great open-minded review. I loved this bike (spent 4.5hrs test riding it so far-definitely on the short list for the next bike). Can we have Witney’s opinion on it?
I had the opportunity to ride a friends urban GS last summer, and agree with most of your points Yammie. I was supprised with the comfort (compared to my ZX12R 😜) and the shudder on start up feels very odd, it's a nice bike but i won't be running out to buy one anytime soon.
About the RPM gauge: that was one of the first mods I added to my 2019 scrambler. It cost $1000 CAD though...
The next level up version of an R-Nine T has dual clocks and radial front Brembo's . Plus adjustable 46mm adjustable front forks and better road tires. A bit more road focused version .
I have a 2002 bmw r1150r…love it!
How's the reliability, cost of ownership, and repair bills? Cheers.
Watched a video of there manufacturing process. Well they put more into QC on the assembly line that is worth the few thousand dollar difference. Don't have a bike yet. But working on that!
Theres a reason that most bmws have 60-70-100-150k miles on them in the used market
No, they rank near last in Consumer Reports reliability surgery after 5 years of ownership. Yamaha and Honda would have much better quality control since they have less failures right?
@@cesartapia610 Stop saying that shit man, that report is based on a survey. No one owning a working machine is a subscriber to a reliability corp.
Some notes, my KTM 690R and my BMW RNineT both have a hydraulic clutch and I do prefer the feel, you hardly have to pull on the lever. I wish that the RNineT had a quickshifter/auto-blipper. My RNineT has a very good sounding factory exhaust and I have never contemplated changing it. A tachometer is a very expensive option. For that matter, I wish the the 690R had a tachometer too. I have the opposite experience with mine, first gear is easy to find and neutral is a near mystery, same thing on my S1000RR. If fact I could say the same thing about the KTM, which can be quite a challenge to find neutral with. Heated grips are worth every penny. Here in MI, I've used heated grips even in summer months and I'll be adding them to the KTM. I would take the RNineT over a Harley any day of the week. I consider my RNineT to be my cruiser bike.
I would welcome hydraulic clutch on my bmw, the dry clutch can be tiresome in town
"You don't have to lube the shaft, just have fun and ride it" nicee
Yammie Top 5 motovloggers. Facts. 🏍💨
I love your channel, way to keep an open mind about the old Bavarian beauts. One day I’ll evolve from my Suzuki bandit to gs of some sort lol
I own a bmw r ninet and love it so much thinking to buy another one
Great review, even if you were on the wrong side of the road🤣
All the best from Japan
The regular R nineT does come with a tachometer (dual clock setup)…wish they put them on all models.
That is a really pretty bike. BMW succeeded at the looks, but I am a spec sheet loving speed demon so it isn’t in my taste. Looking at it I guessed about 135hp and $12,000 so I’m guessing I look at the big 4 to much. That said I would definitely get some tickets for a giveaway if you fall in love with it and decide to buy. Lol
Loving the new review format. Keep it up!
The editing has gotten so good on your videos. 👍👌
Lol, Yammie found the stall button 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Re: the cost, you can get one of these in good shape for ~10k now if you're willing to get used and the different paint scheme--a plus in my book. My 2018 Euro4 spec (minor mods to 5, some better some worse) was showroom clean with low miles, but get one with high miles to save some $$ if you can. These are very reliable and can handle the wear without issue. Not a lot of hooning happening on these so used = may not even be broken in. Maintenance is simple and easily DIY-able and break/fix genuinely uncommon (based on forums, not just my experience). I upgraded the gauge to electronic for the tach, so felt that was necessary. Disagree with the review on the transmission, but maybe that's just my experience, coming off Triumphs this is net neutral though not equivalent. Also disagree with the review on suspension; I get jolted pretty good from deep seams on the hwy or potholes and people typically factor in suspension mods front and back which can get pricey. The racer/classic has the good bits there but is a different riding position and not comfortable like the scrambler/Urban GS.
But "total package"-wise, it's a fantastic bike for what it is, if the style suits your needs. It can handle as well as you can fling it, it's comfortable up to 80MPH (until the wind gets you), and you will never long for power.
Yes some more amazing content please don't ever stop the content coming :)
Cons of the R90 Urban GS are: non adjustable forks, no RPM, no Fuel indicator and you really don't want to take it off-road other than that its an engineering masterpiece.
Nice bike, loved the review Yammie.
On the note of hyrdraulic clutches. I have experienced hydraulic brake failure and I've experienced mechanical brake failure. From a safety aspect I would much prefer hydraulic brakes. 9 times out of ten you will feel it going out unlike a mechanical one with a broken cable that just instantly goes out. I've (knock on wood) never had clutch failure. I'm a bit scared of it happening at speed to be honest. With a hydraulic clutch I would certainly notice that the clutch is acting funny. Instead of it just suddenly going out.
why would it matter if it happened at speed? Clutchless shifting is pretty easy and the brakes can override the engine power. I'd be much more worried about a clutch cable snapping while stationary, though depending on the power of the bike and the situation, you'd probably just stall it
On my last bike I didn't have a clutch failure per se.. But going hot into a corner I noticed that the screw holding my clutch lever rattled itself loose and flew away..
Believe me, it's not a fun feeling when you somehow have to decelerate for a tight corner without a clutch.
Stomping on the shifter to slow down and finally stop is probably not that good for your transmission either.
Although they’re not in moto gp or won WSB, they are successful in others. Isle of Man , Irish road racing ect
Love watching irish tt racing... but to be fair if you put Guy martin or William dunlop on any brand of bike they still win. Saw a race that dunlop had rolled up on a s1k that was straight of the dealership lot no mods and still destroyed everyone 😳
The engine is three feet wide. I agree about the tachometer, well put Noob!
Proud of being a "dork" myself:-) Great review! Please give it away.
Pretty fun review of this bike yams
I’m awaiting the new one … apparently has a 21” front wheel- more off road oriented;)
really? that's interesting where did you read about this? im very interested
Like a Harley, smoother isn't always better. This is supposed to be a tractor. So compared to the character of the engine, I think the transmission is too smooth like you said. I like the clunk with the camhead boxer in the R1200GS (same engine).
I was a bit surprised when I first started out with my 1100rs, worried the transmission was bad, but you just have to preload a bit.
@@pouncer11 I much prefer the smooth and tight click of a Kawasaki transmission. Those Getrags are a little too unrefined for my taste. What did you think about your RS? I liked mine, but I hated how expensive the repair bills were. Lots of electrical gremlins too; the low beam didn't even work.
Hey Yammie get a pair of loaner Vespa GTS 300 from Eurocycle and have you and Spite review it. That would be fun! 😁👍
A side of the road walk around would be great since the shop was so dark.
When you're explaining the inertia mid corner it looks like you're throwing signs 🤣
I tour on a GS with the the same engine. Once you are used to it, this engine makes touring more relaxing, not needing the brakes saves effort (and brake pads), especially on sweeping bends. If you really want to get on it - then it's a pain in the proverbial as it makes rev matching more difficult when revving 5k upwards. That was not what this bike was designed for, which makes the café racer iterations of this bike somewhat odd.
The new 2021 air-cooled boxer was never in a GS
I will never be able to unsee the Whitaker s1000
I would love to see you Ducati Scrambler vs the Beemer.
I think the full fledge R nine T has the dual dial set up with an rpm gauge, and the older generation has it as well
In the vid you mentioned that you were low on fuel, does that mean the 2022 version has a fuel and/or rev gauge? I know older versions don't and it's really a must-have for ya boy.
Still no fuel gauge that I'm aware of, at least my '21 doesn't. It has the low fuel warning light when you have like a gallon of gas left. And I believe they've always had the tachometers, just on the top model only or you can add it on. Still the same.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed for a moto guzzi v7 give away motorcycle.
I'm sorry but i cant have a motorcycle with no rev needle, it's just ridiculous to me. I love seeing the revs climb and what point to shift at.
You get use to it with hearing, keep your eyes on the road :)
@Jean-Alexandre St-Pierre nope, i just can't get behind that. I have always loved my rev needles.
I can’t say I ever look at my rpm dial at all. Its all on feel…
Funny... I test rode an R Nine T(the original) a few years ago and thought it was one of the most rowdy, ruckus bikes I'd ever been on.... All I wanted to do on it was rip around back roads and be bad ☠
I may do some of that soon. Keep in touch and I'll let you know how this GS 40th Ed handles it.
Peace...
and ride it like you stole it!!!
The 9T is so much more fun the more aggresively you ride it. Knee down, keeping up with litre 4 cyclinders in the hills no problem and fun as.
Way to run the stop sign at 13:12 lol.
Nobody’s perfect no harm no foul
Engine braking drives me crazy. In an ideal world, I hope to use only brakes for slowing so I can actually control the brake application.
Bmw has nothing to prove , unlike the. Rap you ride 😂
One thing I've read about BMW is that they're really good about hospitality. Supposedly they will loan you a bike while yours is getting serviced
And, boy, will you need to use that loaner bike a lot lol
@@cesartapia610 damn dude whats your problem with bmw? 😂😂
I have a feeling you may enjoy one of the F900 bikes. Nice chain drive from a liquid cooled twin....