I also found that 1 or 2 years later the crank flashlights battery will not hold the charge. It is still useful in a emergency as it will light while you crank, so if you are in a situation where you do not need your hands, you can use the light and find your way around, but if you have to perform any action, then you are screwed. though again, in a survival situation, if you with family, I guess worst case you delegate somebody to hold and crank while you perform whatever action you need under the light.
This is the limitation of lithium technology at the moment. Most batteries have a life of 2-4 years. If you are looking for a solution not involving lithium....then its candles. And....also....hydrogen fuel cells: charged.io/10-alternatives-lithium-ion-batteries/
www.amazon.com/Horizon-FCH-020-Hydrofill-Hydrogen-Generator/dp/B00MONP8CQ/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_107_t_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=FB117Y8AXQARZGVK5QP0 + solar panel = true off grid
I've been using a Unicom Powerbeam daily for over three years and it's still going strong thanks to its old school and surprisingly small sealed lead-acid battery. Pics of the teardown www.bushcraftuk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=146520 should be good for another two years at least before storage performance noticeably degrades.
You need to do another review. There are many more handcrank ones on Amazon that need to be tested. The Secur product in the link is discontinued. Home depot sells it for $14.99 USD, as well as other handcrank flashlight products like MayDay. Test that one out especially all the new hankcrank products in comparison. I already found the longest Lasting Tactical Flashlight, it is Nitecore MH12 V2(1500 hours). Now i need a long lasting and waterproof handcrank one.
The 1500 hours trash you mentioned is on a setting that produces almost no light at all, its one of those tactical trash bullshit flashlights where the sole word "tactical" adds 60-90 dollar price to it, 25-35 dollar bicycle lights are better than that overpriced garbage, for a third of a price they're durable, bright, relatively long lasting, waterproof and even weight less.. Not to mention any water-resistant crank flashlight will beat that 1500 hour tactical turd when it comes light without recharging, meaning the actual recharging using power bank or similar which you either might not have or it may already be dead if you get stuck in like a forest or some similar survival-ish situation. Also it seems the secur light is now sold under other names like primalcamp or thorfire
Very helpful video. Thank you for sharing. Btw, have you ever used MECO emergency crank light? It is only like 10 bucks and I don't know how it performs.
Glad I came across this review! (Liked and subscribed.) I need a torch for my car. After years of unreliable battery torches that went dead in the glove box, I bought an early-model crank torch that cost dearly (around $50 from Brookstone). It had a standard bulb, so it didn't last as long as LED. It expired and now I'm ready for a new one. I do think I'd like to get the 2-in-1, since I needed a phone charge when I got a flat in a snowstorm and wanted a tow, instead of trying to change a flat on the highway. I would have preferred not to run the car for a charge, because I didn't know if I'd be there overnight. Very grateful, Steve
I wish I could show the one my school gave me because it didn't have a problem unless discharging after a moth of inactivity counts. it was just on and on and off and i have it on for a few hours and its just this small hand thing no bigger then a old phone. Its similar to the secure but I don't think the brand works anymore, it has 3 Blue LEDs and lights up the whole room and you can control the brightness cranking slowly while its on. It was blue and yellow and it and looked more like a kids toy. I remember the brand was on it but i don't remember what it was
He certainly got it right on the Cynergy product-it comes equipped with a cell phone hand crank charger that does NOT work. Good review and a deserved last place finish in this review. Tuning in for more from this guy. He called it right.
I bought one of the secures 3 and 1/2 years ago for 15,99,, awesome product, cranked it for a few minutes played with it for a couple of minutes and stuck it in a backpack. Then pulled it out 3 years later expecting it to be dead and it was as bright as the day I cranked it. I tried to get another one and the price has now gone up to $36.99 on Amazon. The product worked, so they cranked the price up, typical.
As I stated on other reviews these things have a max lifetime. They just don't charge anymore after a while. Had one in the survival kit that did crank but did not charge. That's not very helpful in an emergency... However the concept is perfect since we are all focused on 300+ lumens survival lights while all you need in emergency is something that does not discharge and keeps working.
I've had that same secur since the video. Just cranked it for a minute....still going. If you are using it as a day to day light....you may be cranking it too fast. I would advise not relying on this as an "after a while" use case, rather a last resort use case. static1.squarespace.com/static/517ff2fde4b0337a302a9c68/t/53a1f209e4b0b4f1b3a9cd57/1403122185987/SP-1001+instruction+manual.pdf Further, lithium has a guaranteed lifetime of 5 years max...but future tech could improve that: www.computerworld.com/article/3060005/mobile-wireless/scientists-can-now-make-lithium-ion-batteries-last-a-lifetime.html
Yes mine was a non-brand version but already the second one that died. I found it amazingly illuminating (hihi) how we used a mickey mouse light the whole vacation for everything from reading to finding the toilet on a camping place to emergency car trouble etc... It just kept going and the old-fashion soft bulb light was so much better than my powerful cree survival torch. It made me realize that a real proper emergency flashlight should just be like the Secur... Nothing fancy bright, nothing that charges your phone or has SOS strobe functions. Just something that works and can be cranked. And that you can use to read a book in the car because lets face it... The chance of winning the lottery is probably higher then getting in an emergency black out, snowed in, without phone etc... A modern day emergency light should just be something you always have in the trunk ready to grab when you need to walk through the woods to a gas station when your car brakes down.
Would be nice to actually know the type of battery and capacity. Also the raw output of the hand crank, although that would require a teardown. Personally I think these hand crank lights are no good using a battery. We have supercapacitors and those can run through a million discharge cycles, rather than a battery which will die. A handcrank light is something you should be able to depend on in an emergency, and a lithium cell might just be dead when you actually need it the most, unlike a supercapacitor.
Yes ,u are right :) i am looking for reliable flashlight dynamo crank or solar with about 5 ways to charge -dynamo ,solar ,battery ,ac /dc ,and usb or so ,,the yellow one of yours seem best in terms of duration for light performance :) and i think i ll take one of this model :)Great :)
I can speak for the Eton as I've had it well over a year and the USP port no longer works and the battery that recharges when you crank it is getting weaker and weaker
Is the Secur's crank easy enough to be cranked by a child or is there a better option for a kid? I may buy them no matter what since you can always strap the Secur to the outside of their pack and let the sun charge it. Can you do a video where you test it's claim of being water proof and how well it performs after being charge with the solar cell?
after watching this i looked on amazon and seen the other products secur has. Would you recommend anything else they have like the radio, spot lantern, solar power bank, and the secur auto emergency tool?
Thumbs up? No, sorry. Subscribe? No thanks. Maybe if the video quality didn't look like it was shot on a cameraphone from 2010. Please stop asking. (Yes, I know this video is from 2014. It's now 2020 and people are still shilling for subs.)
Wish there was another hand crank Flashlight showdown now in 2019
Dude, your'e really good.. Keep up the great work. Love your enthusiasm. You could become a big brand if you work it right.
I also found that 1 or 2 years later the crank flashlights battery will not hold the charge. It is still useful in a emergency as it will light while you crank, so if you are in a situation where you do not need your hands, you can use the light and find your way around, but if you have to perform any action, then you are screwed. though again, in a survival situation, if you with family, I guess worst case you delegate somebody to hold and crank while you perform whatever action you need under the light.
This is the limitation of lithium technology at the moment. Most batteries have a life of 2-4 years. If you are looking for a solution not involving lithium....then its candles. And....also....hydrogen fuel cells: charged.io/10-alternatives-lithium-ion-batteries/
www.amazon.com/Horizon-FCH-020-Hydrofill-Hydrogen-Generator/dp/B00MONP8CQ/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_107_t_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=FB117Y8AXQARZGVK5QP0 + solar panel = true off grid
I've been using a Unicom Powerbeam daily for over three years and it's still going strong thanks to its old school and surprisingly small sealed lead-acid battery. Pics of the teardown www.bushcraftuk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=146520 should be good for another two years at least before storage performance noticeably degrades.
You need to do another review. There are many more handcrank ones on
Amazon that need to be tested. The Secur product in the link is
discontinued. Home depot sells it for $14.99 USD, as well as other
handcrank flashlight products like MayDay. Test that one out especially
all the new hankcrank products in comparison. I already found the
longest Lasting Tactical Flashlight, it is Nitecore MH12 V2(1500 hours).
Now i need a long lasting and waterproof handcrank one.
The 1500 hours trash you mentioned is on a setting that produces almost no light at all, its one of those tactical trash bullshit flashlights where the sole word "tactical" adds 60-90 dollar price to it, 25-35 dollar bicycle lights are better than that overpriced garbage, for a third of a price they're durable, bright, relatively long lasting, waterproof and even weight less.. Not to mention any water-resistant crank flashlight will beat that 1500 hour tactical turd when it comes light without recharging, meaning the actual recharging using power bank or similar which you either might not have or it may already be dead if you get stuck in like a forest or some similar survival-ish situation.
Also it seems the secur light is now sold under other names like primalcamp or thorfire
Very helpful video. Thank you for sharing. Btw, have you ever used MECO emergency crank light? It is only like 10 bucks and I don't know how it performs.
Glad I came across this review! (Liked and subscribed.)
I need a torch for my car. After years of unreliable battery torches that went dead in the glove box, I bought an early-model crank torch that cost dearly (around $50 from Brookstone). It had a standard bulb, so it didn't last as long as LED. It expired and now I'm ready for a new one.
I do think I'd like to get the 2-in-1, since I needed a phone charge when I got a flat in a snowstorm and wanted a tow, instead of trying to change a flat on the highway. I would have preferred not to run the car for a charge, because I didn't know if I'd be there overnight.
Very grateful, Steve
Thanks for the Amazon link!
Any chance of a 2020 version? This review was well done. Thanks for sharing
2021 version???
@@dr.stephenstrange9208 2022?
excellent review ...sure saved me a bunch of time since im in the market for such a light...going w/ the secure..waterproof for camping/fishing Thxs
Yeah, the secur is probably the best crank light in the world at this point and time. And its under $20....they make a whole line of other stuff too!
I wish I could show the one my school gave me because it didn't have a problem unless discharging after a moth of inactivity counts. it was just on and on and off and i have it on for a few hours and its just this small hand thing no bigger then a old phone. Its similar to the secure but I don't think the brand works anymore, it has 3 Blue LEDs and lights up the whole room and you can control the brightness cranking slowly while its on. It was blue and yellow and it and looked more like a kids toy. I remember the brand was on it but i don't remember what it was
He certainly got it right on the Cynergy product-it comes equipped with a cell phone hand crank charger that does NOT work. Good review and a deserved last place finish in this review. Tuning in for more from this guy. He called it right.
I bought one of the secures 3 and 1/2 years ago for 15,99,, awesome product, cranked it for a few minutes played with it for a couple of minutes and stuck it in a backpack. Then pulled it out 3 years later expecting it to be dead and it was as bright as the day I cranked it. I tried to get another one and the price has now gone up to $36.99 on Amazon. The product worked, so they cranked the price up, typical.
As I stated on other reviews these things have a max lifetime. They just don't charge anymore after a while. Had one in the survival kit that did crank but did not charge. That's not very helpful in an emergency... However the concept is perfect since we are all focused on 300+ lumens survival lights while all you need in emergency is something that does not discharge and keeps working.
I've had that same secur since the video. Just cranked it for a minute....still going. If you are using it as a day to day light....you may be cranking it too fast. I would advise not relying on this as an "after a while" use case, rather a last resort use case. static1.squarespace.com/static/517ff2fde4b0337a302a9c68/t/53a1f209e4b0b4f1b3a9cd57/1403122185987/SP-1001+instruction+manual.pdf
Further, lithium has a guaranteed lifetime of 5 years max...but future tech could improve that: www.computerworld.com/article/3060005/mobile-wireless/scientists-can-now-make-lithium-ion-batteries-last-a-lifetime.html
Yes mine was a non-brand version but already the second one that died. I
found it amazingly illuminating (hihi) how we used a mickey mouse light
the whole vacation for everything from reading to finding the toilet on
a camping place to emergency car trouble etc... It just kept going and
the old-fashion soft bulb light was so much better than my powerful cree
survival torch.
It made me realize that a real proper emergency flashlight should just be like the Secur... Nothing fancy bright, nothing that charges your phone or has SOS strobe functions. Just something that works and can be cranked. And that you can use to read a book in the car because lets face it...
The chance of winning the lottery is probably higher then getting in an emergency black out, snowed in, without phone etc...
A modern day emergency light should just be something you always have in the trunk ready to grab when you need to walk through the woods to a gas station when your car brakes down.
Exactly. You light should be a light....nothing more, nothing less!
Would be nice to actually know the type of battery and capacity. Also the raw output of the hand crank, although that would require a teardown. Personally I think these hand crank lights are no good using a battery. We have supercapacitors and those can run through a million discharge cycles, rather than a battery which will die. A handcrank light is something you should be able to depend on in an emergency, and a lithium cell might just be dead when you actually need it the most, unlike a supercapacitor.
That secure awhile back was only 15 lumens at the time maybe its been improved the clipray I don't truly like its fairly tough to crank
Yes ,u are right :) i am looking for reliable flashlight dynamo crank or solar with about 5 ways to charge -dynamo ,solar ,battery ,ac /dc ,and usb or so ,,the yellow one of yours seem best in terms of duration for light performance :) and i think i ll take one of this model :)Great :)
fantastic job...you rocked that showdown
I can speak for the Eton as I've had it well over a year and the USP port no longer works and the battery that recharges when you crank it is getting weaker and weaker
Excellent review!
Thank you, Sir.
Oscar
The commentator while the flashlights are dying out sound like I'm listening to a sports commentator. "aaaand they're out!" lol
I usually don't comment but man this video was awesome
I found Durapro pretty good, comfortable winding.
Is the Secur's crank easy enough to be cranked by a child or is there a better option for a kid? I may buy them no matter what since you can always strap the Secur to the outside of their pack and let the sun charge it. Can you do a video where you test it's claim of being water proof and how well it performs after being charge with the solar cell?
after watching this i looked on amazon and seen the other products secur has. Would you recommend anything else they have like the radio, spot lantern, solar power bank, and the secur auto emergency tool?
I have one it's great! I bought it because of your review!
Very informative, thank-you...
Good job brother.
Have you tried the Goal Zero Torch 250?
How about the LJUSA LED hand-powered flashlight ?
thank you, this is a very very useful review.
Great review. Thank you.
How do you know the secur wasn't absorbing any light with that solar panel? that might have made it last longer
A++ video
Thanks right to the point ....
Besides a few dollars cost, what is the difference between the Secur and the Ivation? Both lights seem to be exactly the same.
+Christian L Secur is an American company based in NJ. Ivation is ungoogleable and probably a copycat. Go with the secur
Wow! Great video!
thank you!
great review thanks
Subd! Good job.
Thanks for liking my OCD side ;-)
Please how can i get one without batteries?
Thank you!!
My secur flashlight is WATER RESISTANT because water seeped in and destroyed the internals
Your links don’t work buddy
Get the esky 2018 update solar hand crank noaa am fm solar usb
Stop buying stuff on Amazon
Like the secur light online only tho, I never do online only I want a receipt
I see you rooted your phone and put a custom rom on it
Thumbs up? No, sorry. Subscribe? No thanks.
Maybe if the video quality didn't look like it was shot on a cameraphone from 2010.
Please stop asking.
(Yes, I know this video is from 2014. It's now 2020 and people are still shilling for subs.)
Waterproof to a degree huh? Never heard of that rating. 🤔