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I think the Time Machine could bring back team rainbow rocket as in ultra sun and ultra moon they were brought to Alola by a Time Machine. So that’ll be cool and perhaps Giovanni’s army would be the exploit of Pokémon terastallized
Iron Valiant is a fusion between Gardevoir and Gallade, so the beast trio and and sword of justice trio fusions are not unique in that way. I also question if the paradox Pokémon are even from the distant past/future at all. There are lots of clues that seem to hint that they are Pokémon created from imagination. How else would the imagined fusions from the scarlet/violet book become playable? Furthermore, the beast trio was only created "recently" by Ho-Oh; they did not exist in the ancient past. Slither Wing's Occulture entry also mentions how no records of Volcarona exist in the ancient past. The area zero journal entries also have Sada/Turo wishing for a clone of themselves to assist with research, and then suddenly an AI only made possible by the terra crystals and which can only exist in area zero appears, which the next journal entry implies Sada/Turo don't even know the true nature of. Lastly, Heath's partner was a Cyclizar, and one of the entries in the scarlet/violet book recants a mysterious episode of amnesia he experienced, where he encountered an unknown being and scribbled down a bunch of hexagons. It's very possible that Koraidon and Miraidon are figments from his imagination as well, based on his partner Pokémon, which were created similarly to the paradox Pokémon by the third legendary.
This theory is only proven true if those imagined Pokemon become playable. Because unlike the Paradox mon that have perfectly reasonable explanations for their existence, those two fusions are the only one clearly stated to be from the artist's imagination. And before you type what dataminers found, need I remind you of the stuff dataminers found that were never implemented not only in Pokemon but across many games. Gamefreak could easily not put them in and go with something else.
Just FYI: The Scarlet/Violet Books are available from the moment you enter the Academy, you don't need to reach postgame to read it. Unless more entries are added afterward, but I don't think they are.
I feel like the merchant was someone who travelled the Pokémon World’s equivalent of the Silk Road - which I guarantee the Ginkgo Guild originated from, too.
I am convinced that Glimmora is related to the spherical, hexagonally-plated 3rd legend, possibly in the same way that Koraidon and Miraidon are related to Cyclizar. Besides being a spherical, glowing crystal-like pokemon (reminiscent of terastallization both in concept and potentially in the latter's etymology) who can open its body up to become flatter, it is the only pokemon who greets you in the postgame quest to Area Zero who is not explicitly a paradox pokemon, it is the ace pokemon of the region champion, and Geeta even seems to be designed to resemble one. For me, there are too many connections there to not think that Glimmora has an intrinsic relation to the tera phenomenon.
Honestly agree, but as I was winding down the Area Zero mission, I was really convinced that Geetas connection with the Glimmora was going to come into play with the time machine stuff. I played Violet. Since the first time I saw Geeta I was convinced she was connected to the paradox Pokemon and the time machine because she is so thoroughly unnatural looking compared to everyone else in Paldea. I thought she would end up being from the future.
I find a lot of things about Area Zero odd. Currently the two most popular theories regarding our Disk Friend is that it has time travel based powers or it has imagination/wish based powers. If it can effect the area around it, sending out Pokemon of different times, that would explain the herba mystica and the paradox Pokemon being discovered so long ago. But, imagination is also possible. The Pokemon seem like something someone made up, possibly based on those strange descriptions in the other books. If I recall, the king sent people into Area Zero, regardless of the danger. Maybe they didn't die but rather they didn't want to go back to their king, they wished that something would keep them from going back to him. Thus, Disk Friend made a paradise from whence they never returned. Heath wanted to find something so the Pokemon gave him a Paradox Pokemon, Herba Mystica, and then eventually revealed itself to him. Sada/Turo wanted funding for their research and a world full of future/past Pokemon, so it gave them Terrastel energy and spat out Paradox Pokemon via the time machine. Ah, but that then begs the question, where did Sada/Turo go if not the future/past. I'm also curious about the dream Heath had. He got separated from his team and mentioned that he spoke to someone before writing down the symbol, which he doesn't remember doing. Of course, this is all pure conjecture. We simply don't know enough. I personally hope it's an imagination based Pokemon as I don't want another time based one but it could just be time based.
Something super interesting to be is that all the crystals in area zero have reflective properties, like a mirror. Even more interesting, when you enter a tera raid battle, the Pokémon you’re after is reflected in the crystallized walls. Perhaps this Pokémon can create Pokémon reflected by peoples desires, such as the desire to learn about the ancient past or future? Kind of a shot in the dark but I’d expect some sort of “be careful what you wish for” moral to be involved. In fact it already is, since the professor discovering the second legendary is what got them killed.
Since the machine could potentially bring fiction in to reality hence, why the book is needed to power the machine, it is possible if used to the other way around it could bring the person in a fictional reality
@@azunkor422 That would be a cool DLC story, although it's actually that the book was step one in shutting down the time machine, this then activated the self defense protocols and then the AI had to go through it to shut it down. Well, regardless of the book's purpose in the time machine, or whatever it is, I could see the story either transporting the heroes into a dream world, or a new layer is discovered in Area Zero that is essentially a living dream world.
@@bajanyaoikaizer6902 I would be perfectly ok with that, I loved that movie. And I mean, something has to prompt us into going down into Area Zero, seeing as how it's the forbidden zone that one can only go into if given permission. Maybe we get a mystery transmission begging for help or maybe crystals begin growing out of Area Zero, terraforming the land, prompting us into going down to investigate. After what happened in the main story, I accept anything as being possible.
The idea of Heath having a time machine does not make sense as his Team did not expect to encounter the Paradox Pokemon at all. This must mean that they were not the ones who brought them there.
@@squalleonkeneddyheart4191 Yeah, I personally believe it, I think they come from Heath and his team's imagination, then Sada/Turo imagined the same thing because they read the book.
@@squalleonkeneddyheart4191 The talking to someone and found unconscious makes me wonder if he might have gotten taken over and made to write/draw the pokemon of the past and future. Like a prophet.
There’s also the interesting geoglyph on the ground of the cave that you find Roaring Moon in. It’s the same symbol on the ground of the first station you go to before you go into area 0 for the first time. Surely that was there before Sada/Turo established their stations. Also, the Portuguese were a big trading force in Japan in the 16th century, and did a lot of commerce in western Honshu (basically, Johto). They would also hit China on the way back, which explains the Chinese names of the ruinous Pokémon.
Glad someone mentioned the connection with Portugal and its trade routes! The way the Paldean Empire collapsed also mirrors how the Spanish empire collapsed due to looking for treasure (albeit overseas and not domestically).
Did you notice in this cave the ledge at the very back you can climb onto? Climb up and follow it around and you come to a ledge that overlooks the very geoglyph you're talking about. I'm absolutely positive that this will somehow be a key part of any DLC or sequel game.
Really enjoyed how this game presents its region's lore. Especially in the new age of DLC, it feels like we have more of an idea of what to expect versus Sword and Shield. Excited for what comes next!
The Heath Expedition was said to be 100 years before the current time, not 200. Just semantics, but details like that, especially with how much lore they packed into the games for Paldea, are very important
Hi! I’ve been keeping up with everything Scarlet & Violet and just wanted to pop in and add a few more things!! - the ruinous Pokémon are based off of the four perils in Chinese mythology and it’s interesting to note that their names are the same in Mandarin instead of localised* - according to raifort’s history classes, they came to paldea via a merchant from the east who sold them to the king - people have been speculating that these things could hint to an upcoming Chinese region? I also noticed a number of Chinese dishes featured in the game’s restaurants myself (mapo tofu, hot and sour soup, etc) * I made a video on my channel that explains a bit on how to pronounce their names and while the names are p much the same for three of them (Jian Bao ➡️ Chien-Pao, Jian Wo ➡️ Wo-Chien, Ding Lu ➡️ Ting Lu) Chi-Yu is actually Yu Yu in Mandarin so it may come from “Chi You” a Chinese deity descended from the flames Otherwise the names are pretty literal translations as to what they are Jian Bao: Sword leopard Jian Wo: Bamboo slip snail Ding Lu: Cauldron deer Yu Yu: Jade fish I was really excited to see all this subtle cultural stuff in the game so sorry for the super long comment 😂 Hope this was a fun piece of trivia!
A youtuber LockstinAndNoggin covered the quartet and mentioned that onne of the reasons they kept the chinese names was because of the way the chinese language works. Essentialy, the context of words change their meaning, so the words used have several different meanings, which they couldn't do with english names
Id like to know what pokemon attacked Arven down in Area Zero. You never explicitly find out which paradox mon did it, and with his mabostiff being as a high a level as it is (and a weirdly strong mon if you check out its stats) with him you see all of your games mons, and he never says which species did it.
I could see it being an imagined Pokémon that did it. It would make a good story for the dlc. Arven going back down to see what the creature was or get revenge.
Zygarde was teased in the Pokémon Channel in the Legendaries video. He starts to transform and you can see the Hexagon circle that is referenced as a “disk” Pokémon in the scarlet/violet books.
You can also see like it's head at the top with star eyes, a shell back with a crown on it, and something that looks like waves or a tail with a ship on the back
I can get what your going at but its probably not zygarde because according to AI Turo/Sada the paradox pokemon will destroy the ecosystem and Zygarde as we know it is a guardian and protector of the ecosystem
The Mysterious stranger Heath met could be our Professor going back at the end of the game, thus closing the loop. This still leaves open the question as to where the Paradox Pokémon came from in the first place, and how the Terastal Disk comes into play at all. 🤔
It's a useful exercise to think of possible "third game" ideas. For S/V, instead of thinking of past, future, and then present, but I think the third game theme is likely, what once was, what will be, and finally what could be. This might explain why The S/V books mention "Imagined" Pokemon.
There's a theory that the Paradox Pokemon actually came from Heath and his team's imagination, and then Heath probably imagined that his partner Pokemon would have been super strong in the past or future.
Another mystery I have found, and I firmly believe has to do with the Ruinous Quartet, is that in the cave where you can find Iron Valiant/ Roaring Moon, is the circles on the ground that seem to correspond to the four shrines for these pokemon. In addition to that, this seems to be the only place in Area Zero where Greavard, Houndstone and Chansey spawn. This is notable because Greavard and Houndstone are obviously ghost type and have to do with death, and Chansey is drawn to cure sick people and pokemon. I think more will be to the cave in the DLC.
Especially since at the very back of that cave, there's a ledge that you can climb up onto and follow through an arch to end up on another ledge that overlooks and gives a brilliant view of that giant geoglyph on the floor. That ledge was put there for a reason. Something is going to happen in this area in the DLC.
Could be a descendent of the King. Got almost an obsession vibe from Raifort, even for a history buff. Maybe she feels the Treasure of Ruins belong to her because of her bloodline. Someone clearly went to great lengths to seal them away, but Raifort is pretty happy with you unlocking them.
Another thing I’ve thought of is that glittering cave in kalos could be related to area zero aswell as if the DLC is in kalos it could say something about this
I think there is a possibility that the "disk pokemon" is the time machine itself, and that the time machine, once created, existed at all points in time and so paradox pokemon came from it in all times, which is how Heath's team found them in area zero. The inside of the time machine is a bright, shining crystal that appears as a series of interlaced hexagons. Maybe at some point Heath was brought into the time machine, and that is what his episode in the violet/scarlet book details. Just a theory. Terastralization could just be a phenomenon of the crystals, and not of a pokemon in particular, unlike Dynamaxing was with Eternatus. Or, maybe there is a pokemon we are unaware of at the heart of the time machine. Hopefully DLC answers all that.
I’m really interested in the Legendary Pokémon mentioned in the Scarlet/Violet Book that’s more than likely responsible for the Terastal Phenomenon. When the games were first revealed and we saw that Poké Ball flying through those crystals, I thought the third Legendary could possibly be a Rock/Dragon covered in gemstones, but a World Turtle-inspired Pokémon seems interesting too. I wonder if it somehow has a natural ability to pull things from different points of time, since I don’t know how the Area Zero expiation team could have seen the Paradox Pokémon down there way before the Professor built the time machine. Either that, or maybe it can somehow manifest things from people’s imaginations into reality…? Also, like with every Pokémon game, one of the biggest questions I have is just who the heck is littering every region with various items? Are they being carelessly dropped by other trainers, or are they maybe planted by the Pokémon League for trainers to find?
I'm pretty sure the pokeball flying through the crystals in the trailer, was one of the pokeballs the professor sent through the time machine; the crystals in the background look very similar to the chamber where you fight the AI. There's the possibility that the time machine can not only pull things from other times to the present, but can send things to other points in time as well- like sending future pokemon into the past, or pulling ancient pokemon to the near-past. Or maybe the time machine itself can travel through time, with the AI helming it.
@@Zoreta Yeah, I figured the Poké Ball is meant to be Koraidon/Miraidon’s since they’re the only Paradox Pokémon Sada/Turo owned that was in a regular Poké Ball and not a Master Ball. I just thought that the crystals themselves belonged to the third Legendary somehow, which seems like it could be the case.
Regarding the Paradox Pokémon in the Scarlet or Violet book. My theory is that getting a Pokémon from the past or future had a lot of trial and error before it was a success. So what I'm getting at is that due to miscalculations the Pokémon were simple brought to the wrong time period
That hexagon turtle Pokémon may be in fact related to Zygarde and we know the face of it is on the emblem of any terastallized Pokémon and looks similar to Zygarde 100% form and the drawing has a face that looks like the 50% of Zygarde. You also should’ve covered what’s hiding in the northeast of the map as it’s blocked by mountains and has lines on the map.
The blocked portion of the map is actually very EASY to identify if you know some basic geography of Europe and the Iberian Peninsula. That's the shared border with France/Kalos.
I've heard that the Treasures of Ruin are inspired by a particular Chinese myth, that places them as the opposite of the genie trio of Unova (+Hisui). This, paired with a bunch of respect for Unovan Pokémon (including the Imagined Pokémon) , and the very recent reveal of Enamorus, makes me suspect we may see a Unovan remake that connects with Paldea. The imagined Legendary Beast fusion also makes me wonder about a Johto remake. I hypothesize we will be getting a Pokémon Legends Celebi game, and an open world updated remake of Unova some time soon. Maybe one of these will involve time travel to the future!
I believe the clearest indication that we will get a DLC is the unavailable area on the east side of the map. Hopefully that DLC includes a lot of lore and interesting new pokemons to discover.
That's the land border for Kalos, as the Iberian Pennisula of which Paldea is based on borders France, of which Kalos is based on, in the exact same spot. And on the Kalos map, its southern border is mountains. (These are the Pyrenees Mountains in France) If anything, by the way, I feel as though the DLC will be centered on the Balearic Islands.
You don't have to complete the game to read the Scarlet/Violet Book. I read it the first time I walked around the entrance hall. Two theories for the Imagined Beasts: First, it will be retconned or revealed that it was actually a vision of real pokemon that the art drew. Or, the Beast trio and Swords of justice will get new forms like the Bird trio did in SwSh. I think that they will switch types. Suicune will become steel/fighting, Virizion will become electric, etc. The Beasts and Swords trio will switch types with each other.
I think the paradox Pokemon are not from the future or past rather the third legendary made them based on the imagination of the explorers that went down. They give us clues in some of the dex entries stating that they resemble something mentioned in a sci-fi magazine. That is why they were around before turo and sada built the so called time machine what probably ended up happening is they awakened the third legendary and it started making those pokemon again.
When you brought up the paradox pokemon being seen 200 years ago but not having any Time Machine back then and not knowing how they got there, but if they get access to the Time Machine at any point they could theoretically exist in any timeline! That may actually be why they're called paradox pokemon o.o
I know one thing for sure. The treasures of ruins theme is an absolute delight. One of my favorite tracks from this game along with the final battle with AI and all the Aero Zero themes. It makes me hopeful that next gen we're going to China. I feel China would be a wonderful place to make a new gen on because of all the history, beautiful locations, and lore possibilities.
there have been theories going around that the paradox pokemon are in fact, not from the past/future. Instead they are created from imagination. All these paradox forms seem to have been known within old folktales long before turo or sada seemingly took them from the future. I think what is happenings is that this disk pokemon is capable of manifesting the paradox forms out of peoples imagination and that could be the reason heath saw these pokemon 200 yers before they were taken from the future.
It would make more sense, honestly. A paradox is, by definition, something that can't exist but does. Future forms and past forms do exist, and the possibility of Time Machines means their presence in present time isn't a paradox at all. The Legendary "Imagination God" then turned the Professor's dreams into reality, just like in the movie 3. And since the Professor's dream is to live with Pokemons from the Past or the Future, Pokemons from different times appeared. It all makes sense. But I don't think this will turn out this way. The way I see it, Game Freak had _originally_ planned for Paradoxes to come from imagination, but changed their plans at the last minute and came up with the idea of Time Travel. I mean, let's be real, a game that is barely even begun (and clearly unfinished) has likely had a terrible development. Who knows though, maybe the DLCs will prove me wrong.
The topic about the Treasure of Ruin you missed the fact that the History Teacher tells you about the 4 items of ruination and has you seek them out as a side quest and tells more about the story connection between them and the King.
My theory is that the Legendary Beast fusion was acctually one pokemon in the past, but it split itself up, creating the Legendary Beast Trio. Same thing for the Swords Of Justice fusion just reverse: in the future, the swords of justice fuse to create one stronger being.
I mean in the anime Goh does have a Suicune and one Goh's friends/rivals was revealed to have recently caught a Virizion. So maybe the anime's foreshadowing
If the DLC is just the Z game we should’ve gotten, I will be incredibly happy. However, this is Game Freak and I have treatment-resistant depression. So, I’m sure that’s what we will get nor will I be happy. 😂
We already know all about the treasures of ruin. My HC to explain the sightings 200 years ago as Pokemon returning too early/too far in the past. The 3rd legend is clearly the origin of the crater
@HoopsandHipHop Have you seen the upper right corner of the Map? (North East), above the icy mountains... A chunk of map is blocked off for future use/travel. Perhaps more Paradox Pokémon will be revealed to have escaped into the area between Kalos and Paldea?... Heath has remained alive for 200~ years, and kept the Paradox-mon from escaping further into the World at large.
Gen 10 likely brings a throwback to Gen5, explains the attention to the Swords. Gen2 could be a solid filler for the back half of Gen9 (loved your earlier video on that topic). Many theories I have heard say that Zygarde is the Disk Pokemon, which tracks if we truly believe Paldea to be bumped up against Kalos in-game. Hexagons, Ouroboros reference, the imagery of small being shaped like the cells you find throughout Kalos, yada yada yada. Would be an excellent tie-in.
I think we will be seeing AI sada or the violet one again as they traveled through the time machine and might encounter the king. He could be a part of the possible DLC or DLCs as a villian who uses the "imaginary" pokemon one in the first and the other in the second ( or as a version exclusive like dog trio in scarlet and swords of justice in violet). This might be very interesting and I would personaly love to see it and would connect some of these mysteries together. You might also have to catch the 4 sealed legendaries as they might be the manifestations of his items or talismens and could be the key to taking him down! Thats just my theory though.
3:53 to 4:11 Raging Bolt, Gouging Fire, and Walking Wake in Scarlet. In Violet, the Pokemon are Iron Crown, Iron Boulder, and Iron Leaves. 4:18 they have and we did.
For the first question I think they are hinting the next gimmick in generation 10 which is fusion evolution, Pokémon has hinted every gimmicks before they were announced like mega evolution was hinted in Misty's dream and Dynamax in the Giant Dragonite episode and Terastallizing in the Crystal Onix episode. Fusion evolution is also hinted in the Gastly episode where all the gen 1 starters fused together and in Black 2 & White and Ultra Sun & Ultra Moon. This is basically a hint.
so one big thing for me when viewing these games as a whole is that i think the time travel elements are a red herring - the points that lead me to this conclusion are: 1) Paradox Pokémon being sighted 200 years before the time machine was allegedly built. 2) That every Paradox Pokémon lines up with some obviously made up pulp nonsense in sci-fi magazines you find in the library. 3) The AI Professor can't leave the crater and has to remain close to the crystals at the bottom of the crater to continue functioning. 3-b) The real Professor being able to make the AI Professor in the first place. Or a time machine for that matter (with nary a reference or nod to the two Pokémon we know that can manipulate time). 3-c) The real Professor's motivations for doing what they did. 4) The presence of the imaginary Pokémon in the book, obviously setting up that they're going to appear later. 5) That the Disk Pokémon has its info redacted every time it gets brought up, in both the book (Arven mentions post-game that the book is blurred out in the exact same way in every single copy) and the Professor's Journals. 5-b) Heath details a dream he has scattered memory of and includes a page full of stuff he apparently wrote that he doesn't understand. 6) The Disk Pokémon is apparently the source of Terastallization, a phenomena which can change a Pokémon to any type. To me, all these little details point to this Disk Pokémon being some kind of reality warper/wish fulfilment type. Heath and the research team wanted to see strange Pokémon, it made strange Pokémon for them to find. The Professor was obsessed with ancient/futuristic Pokémon, dedicated their lives to finding them, and use the crystals in the crater to apparently achieve that, and then when they need another pair of hands that understands their vision of paradise, and build an AI and house it in an almost indistinguishably human-like chassis, once again with the help of the crystals. They have the impossible idea then somehow achieve it using elements derived from this unknown Pokémon (and Terastallization being a literal crystallization of that - 'wouldn't it be cool if X Pokémon was Y type?'). All information on this Pokémon is obscured because it doesn't want to be found. When this Paradox Beast/Sword appears that'll be the clincher that time travel wasn't what was really going on and we're dealing with something else entirely. Something that has had eyes everywhere this entire game, in the crown every Terastallized Pokémon wears.
The ancient hound is for the legends Celebi game we’ll be getting. Ancient Johto will be getting explored next. And the future swords of justice is for the Unova remakes
@@victordottaviano645 they’re not cats? They’re said to be reincarnated Flareon, Vaporeon, and Jolteon. Which all three are more fox like, canine, than cat like. I’m not sure where you’re getting your info. Plus they’re always listed as the legendary hounds, dogs, beasts. But they are dog like for sure.
@@PapaBilbo83 Sorry, mate. I meant they're big cats, but it seems that many people still refers to them as "dogs" and i find this very awkward since Raikou is a sabertooth tiger, Entei is a lion and Suicune is a leopard.
For the first mystery I have two takes: - the Person who drew them from the imagination was from Johto/Unova and used the Lewgendary Trio from their region as the basis, - there might be some bigger deal with those Pokemon indeed as in Pokemon recently Goh's friend Horace was revealed to own a Verizon which is kinda in sync with Goh's Suicune.
You can read the scarlet/violet book in the entrance at almost any time. You may have to take the second history lesson? Which gets unlocked after your second gym badge, I think?
I think it is important to mention that the tera crystals were the key to the appearance of the paradox pokemon. I think it would be safe to hypothesis that the time travel device just focuses the time abilities of the crystals and that potentially these crystals could organically travel past/future pokemon. The event of the collision could have transferred the energy to the crystals leaving the paradox pokemon there since the great crater and the professor simply increased the amount of them in the crater.
So, Tera Crystals could also play a role in Tera Types being a possible Type swap from ancestral blood reawakening or a possible Type change for future lineage (if that particular Pokémon's blood line continues on into the future)?
@@Knight41b i think that is a good possibility. When you find a pokemon thats dual type it will inherently have one of the two types as the tera. The tera shards however can change this type which could mean pokemon types are caused by these shards initially and then they bred into the wild and thats why squirtle is water. The ancestor pokemon mew is psychic so all pokemon came through psychic but developed other types
@@chandlergarrison7926 Mew is a Psychic Type naturally. Psychic typing tends to be a bit unstable, so I can see other types manifesting. Kind of like how Pyrokinesis & Hydrokinetic abilities are manifestations of Fire & Water, I can see the other Pokémon types spawning from the Psychic Type Mew. BTW, have you seen the Pokémon fan comic series called Mew & Mewtwo (Dub version is on YT)? Honestly, I think it would be a good watch.
What I'm hoping for is that we get a legends arceus set of games, only with one is in Johto and is in the past, while the other one is in Unova and is in the future or vis versa.
15:59 that crown might lead to a very specific conclusion! Perhaps relating to the four treasures and the fact that the four treasures are dark type and this disk pokemon is the reason terrastilization is so bright and shiny
I have a feeling we'll be seeing AZ again. With the talk of Kalos being DLC along with many talks in the game about thousand year history, I wouldnt be surprised if he waltzed on into the story.
They canonized that Pokemon Sword/Shield and Arceus are past life for our characters. Its said if you talk to a random npc by school. I think thats cool😊
14:39 Perhaps just like Necrozma, it's a pokemon that attaches itself onto other ones to gather energy from them for an unknown forme we are yet to see. That picture reminds me so much to SMT's Shaddai. I cannot unsee after losing so many times against it in Dx2 😛
What I'd really like for DLC content is to actually explore the behavior and habitats of the Paradox Pokemon. Their Pokedex entries state almost nothing about them, other than they are cryptids that have been spotted in the past. And it would be cool to make them breedable, as well as introduce what their pre-evolutions looked like in the past. I'm curious what Foongus, Bagon, Shelgon, Igglybuff, Larvesta, Magnemite, and Phanphy looked like in the distant past. It might even be cool to see a Flutter Mane evolution with Mismagius traits, and same thing goes for a Scream Tail evolution. Personally, I would like DLC to allow us to explore the past and future versions of Paldea (and for the record, I don't care if it takes 2-3 years to complete, because that would be awesome!). While some of the entries are fun (Iron Jugulis is speculated as being the offspring of a Hydreigon that fell in love with a robot), it'd be fun to actually gather real data on them.
Interesting video 👍🏻 I'm pretty sure that the mystery of the Treasures of Ruin is actually answered in the History class because she talks about a traveller from a foreign land coming and gifting the king with the 4 treasures and then they corrupt Paldea. The king was looking for Treasure in Area Zero, but not specifically Area Zero, he just wanted treasure in general. Also a little bit of creative feedback, the videos I have watched have great info but it always sounds/feels like you're writing an essay and trying to hit some random word count. A lot less could be said to convey the same information. But good work 💪🏻
i believe I heard in game that the Treasures of Ruin where gifts to the King of the Paldean Empire, I think the Asian inspiration is because the relics that became the Treasures came from an asian region, maybe Johto?
Mmm, their names are too Chinese. Arcanine was said to be popular in China in an old Pokédex entry. Of course they don’t name actual countries and continents now but there’s still probably supposed to be a China-based region out there.
The treasures of ruin aren't a mystery. It clearly states in the history lessons about the king that they were off a salesman or somebody from "the east". When people say from the east they usually mean East Asia / china, in this case the Pokémon world equivalent. This also confirms a Chinese region is canon.
I’m expecting the twist of “all paradox Pokémon are imagined” to happen tbh. Just like how emotions manifested the cursed objects into Pokémon I think the energy in the crater manifested the desires of those who entered and created everything they wanted. For example the professors wanted a Time Machine and they got what we are told is a Time Machine. Kinda like how Pokémon Movie 3 happened Edit: typo
I don’t see the fusion of the legendary trios as entirely different from other paradox Pokémon. Look no further than Iron Valiant. It, too, is a fusion. It’s possible we may have a Pokémon 3/Molly situation going on here where imagined Pokémon are somehow becoming real.
From what I can gather what makes the pokemon "paradox" is that the pokemon heath encountered were actually sent BY sada or turo by accident, meaning that the professors were inspired by pokemon that they themselves are responsible for bringing. We can see proof of this with the metal plate that Heath discovered which looks identical to those seen in the research stations
The merchant brought forth the four treasures to the King-Beads, Tablets, a Vessel, and a Sword. These treasures were said to be ancient and priceless, so the King showered the merchant in more gold than the merchant could've imagined. For years the treasures sat, within the Kingdom, and the greed of the people began to set in-the dark emotions and shadowy hearts filled the kingdom, as well as these artifacts, with ill-temptations... Until one day, when these dark memories had manifested within the artifacts and gave life to a quartet of equally powerful dark souls. They destroyed the Kingdom, and took through the land, leveling any place that reeked with ill intention... for ___ months/years. Until one day, a hero/the Merchant, returned to the once Paldean Empire, and helped the people battle and subsequently seal the ruinous quartet within 4 specially crafted chambers around the vast lands of Paldea. The Merchant was never seen again, and the Ruinous Quartet were left undisturbed for the rest of time... [The Merchant could've been cursed like the quartet, and has become Gimmighoul/Gholdengo...?]
Two questions that really stuck to me when playing the games, how did the Paradox Pokémon exist before Sada/Turo’s time machine and one of the caves in Area Zero, with the four symbols on the ground, where you find Roaring Moon and Iron Valiant. No one seems to be talking about it and it always stuck in my mind, especially when I’m shiny hunting or XP grinding. If you look at the Pokémon Scarlet/Violet title border, I’m pretty sure the symbol is on it.
You can actually access the Scarlet and Violet books from inside the academies at the beginning of the game, once you arrive to the academy. You don't have to wait till the post-game to access them and read all the entries.
Hear me out: he talked about the world turtle being somehow related to the secret legendary. Imagine if what they saw was a relative to an even BIGGER Pokémon- a Pokémon, say, underneath area zero? Maybe the entirety of area zero is the back of a giant turtle Pokémon that decided that Paldea was the perfect place to keep the ancestors/descendants safe. Idk just spitballing this just came to mind. Pokémon probably wouldn’t try anything that ambitious or big but I thought it’d be cool- also probably wouldn’t make sense in the lore of Paldea but still idk
Wouldn’t it be wild if at the end of the DLC, after dealing with Heath, the third legendary disc Pokémon, time travel, etc., the time machine lets us meet the ancient king of the Paldean Empire, and learn more about the Paldean legendary quartet, maybe even a connection to the Swords of Justice fusion Pokémon, and the king tells us before going back to his time period “by the way, give my regards to my brother, the king of Unova...” then BOOM we get Black and White 3
The first game we saw somekind of fusion between Pokémon was black and white 2, and according to the end of ultra sun or moon, colres and giovanni have a machine that alow them to travel between dimensions. My hypothesis is that we will receive the remake of black and white to connect the stories, and after that, a third game to close the scarlet and violet main history. And I also believe that all the games that are different after ultra sunmoon happened because of the ultra holes. Before that, all games followed a patern, that was broken after this event.
These four Legendaey Pokémon is basically a counterpart of the Alola Guardians, they all has a signature move that cut the enemy HP at 50% but one is Fairy and the other Dark, and if you see carefully: Fairy/Eletric < Dark/Ground Fairy/Grass < Dark/Ice Fairy/Water < Dark/Grass Fairy/Psychic < Dark/Fire
One problem though, they're supposed to be somewhat based on the four perils, the counterparts to the four cardinal directions. And the ones who represent the four cardinal directions are Tornadus, Thundurus, Landorus and Enamorus.
I’ve been thinking about this for a while now, and I’m not sure if this is a silly coincidence but the Scarlet/Violet Book, as they mentioned: the Disc Pokémon’s shell overlaps with hexagonal layers. Other than having a possible connection w/ Zygarde, has anyone noticed that our homeroom teacher Jacq, if I’m not mistaken, has hexagonal glasses? I don’t want to get into to much detail but I believe he mentioned that he was also a researcher alongside Clavell. He possibly also worked alongside Sada/Turo just how Clavell did. He therefore could’ve acquired the books & learned more about the Disc Pokémon, but who knows, I guess I’m just writing bs. I would find it hysterical if he was actually evil behind closed doors, and he never mentioned anything whatsoever that would make us suspect him for being evil. Also, seeing that photo of Heath, he had a slight resemblance to Clavell, imo.
Did you even take the history class?? Raifort tells you the whole story of the king that received the Ruinous beasts as gifts, it's not a mystery, it's right there in the game..
I think the potential idea of the combined pokemon is continent shifting, either from a Regi or natural movement Unova and Kanto crashing into another or having some form of combined game.
The legendary quarter/treasures of ruin is answered in the game. Raifort tells you the story. A merchant from the East sells the treasures to the Paldean king. That night the treasures come to life and start destroying the kingdom. They are then locked away. It’s clear the East region is meant to be China/Pokémon worlds version of China
I feel like that mysterious pokemon is related to the old king of paldea. It might even be the king himself, a result of coming in contact with whatever made the crater in the first place. It's got a crown, even. It's so kingly, the terrastalization it causes even gives OTHER things crowns.
When we look at Heath in one of his pictures, he has a Cyclizard but hear out my theory: what if Heath was in the expedition team and died in area zero to a Pokemon and the rest of the expedition Team ran away with the Information without telling everything. And Heaths Cyclizard was left behind with Heath in a rush for all these ages until it became the Koraidon/Miraidon of the area zero and attacked the Protagonist,Nemona,Arven and Penny cause that reminded the Koraidon/Miraidon of his owners death and the expedition team that forgot it for all these ages.
Just a theory of mine: The third legendary, the entity behind the crystals, is from beyond the stars. A being that similar to Deoxys (which also is often depicted with triangles) can travel between planets in a sort of hibernation form. In this form it crashed into a prehistoric paldea thereby creating the crater of Area 0.
I think the tera cristal like the big one in the room of the time machine make the present pokemon revive their old form so the tera cristals have the power about time and that why the time machine work with a enormous size tera cristals
I believe the treasures of ruin are Asian themed to hint to a China based region that will come later down the line maybe gen 10 or 11 As for why China themed Pokémon would be in a Spain based region could refer to the royal families of Spain collecting items and animal that may be common in their country of origin but virtually unheard of in Spain making them a grand and valuable treasure
Youre right on the second part. We're even told in game. I think you might be right about the first part too, its kinda like Gen 5 having the Swords of Justice based on a French story, then having Kalos
Couldn't paradox Pokémon appearing in the past be an attempt by AI to send some of them back? Just because they can pull things from the past/future, doesn't mean you can't send them back as well. That would mean it's entirely possible the paradox Pokémon still appeared through time travel to Heath and his team, although sent back at the wrong time. In a weird way would mean the professor's eventual goal to investigate the mysteries of area zero, could've been created by their own future ai after their death, in some sort of loop.
Legends Johto (a backstory regarding the burnt tower and ho-oh?) and Black 3/White 3 (a fusion of the 3 musketeers for number 3 and then they also introduced a new genie in legends)... that's my guess as to what they're hinting at.
Ive felt that these paradox pokemon are what they are because they arent originally from the Past/Future, but current pokemon caught into whatever time dilation of the location and having to adapt into those environments, thus why they are paradoxes.
I don’t remember where I read this or which character told me this in the game but there is a story about the King and it goes as follows; [START] A King was in search of only the rarest most valuable of treasures. A mysterious traveling merchant never before seen in the kingdom and not one of the usual merchants traveling through comes to the kingdom claiming to have brought 4 invaluable treasures to the Kingdom having heard of the Kings obsession with rare and valuable items. The King takes a look at the items and instantly sees their value and pays an unthinkable amount to buy them from the mysterious merchant. The four treasures were an ancient sword, a bowl, tablets with writing on them, and rare beads. But when the King brought them into his kingdom the “treasures” turned out to actually be extremely powerful Pokémon. Has he been tricked? Did the merchant know? The 4 ruinous Pokémon completely ravaged and destroy the kingdom destroying everything in sight. Some rare trainers of Pokémon tried to stop them but they were too strong. They destroyed and destroyed until there was nothing left of the once prominent kingdom except a few scattered what is now ruins. It is not known who the mysterious merchant was or if he knew that the treasures were Pokémon or if he knew exactly what he was doing and purposefully brought the downfall of the kingdom or to what end. Was he a spy from another waring region of Paldea or simply an innocent merchant. Unfortunately we will never know. [END.] I tried to write as best I remember it. All this was said in the actual game. I didn’t make any of that up. Ps. Regarding the story, I completely believe that this “merchant” from 2,000 years ago has got to be none other than Volo!
My theory regarding the "Disk Pokemon" is that it is the base crown piece that Terra Jewels are perched on. Consider the Terra Orb. It is shaped similarly to a pokeball. You toss the Terra Orb onto your pokemon to terrastalize it, almost as if sending out another "pokemon". Consider the Terra Jewel: it shines brightly no matter the time of day, and no matter the typing, the jewel always has a sort of crown or tiara base, and this base always has what looks like angry eyes on its hexagonal piece. Therefore, what if, to terrastalize a pokemon, you must apply a sort of parasitic creature: the mysterious "Disk Pokemon"?
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I think the Time Machine could bring back team rainbow rocket as in ultra sun and ultra moon they were brought to Alola by a Time Machine. So that’ll be cool and perhaps Giovanni’s army would be the exploit of Pokémon terastallized
dream up pokemon? reality warping bring dreams to life.
When you first mentioned Heath my mind went to the Heath in the Wings of Fire franchise…. (Too many books, didn’t read : BAD GUY!!)
The code for Paradox Suicune and Virizion already exists in the game. Their names are Hydro Steam and Supreme Blade.
Isn't there a heath in the ranger games lol. What about looker. Or volo.
Iron Valiant is a fusion between Gardevoir and Gallade, so the beast trio and and sword of justice trio fusions are not unique in that way. I also question if the paradox Pokémon are even from the distant past/future at all. There are lots of clues that seem to hint that they are Pokémon created from imagination. How else would the imagined fusions from the scarlet/violet book become playable? Furthermore, the beast trio was only created "recently" by Ho-Oh; they did not exist in the ancient past. Slither Wing's Occulture entry also mentions how no records of Volcarona exist in the ancient past. The area zero journal entries also have Sada/Turo wishing for a clone of themselves to assist with research, and then suddenly an AI only made possible by the terra crystals and which can only exist in area zero appears, which the next journal entry implies Sada/Turo don't even know the true nature of. Lastly, Heath's partner was a Cyclizar, and one of the entries in the scarlet/violet book recants a mysterious episode of amnesia he experienced, where he encountered an unknown being and scribbled down a bunch of hexagons. It's very possible that Koraidon and Miraidon are figments from his imagination as well, based on his partner Pokémon, which were created similarly to the paradox Pokémon by the third legendary.
Iv heard this theory and it makes so much sense
This theory sounds so spot on it's actually insane
This theory is only proven true if those imagined Pokemon become playable. Because unlike the Paradox mon that have perfectly reasonable explanations for their existence, those two fusions are the only one clearly stated to be from the artist's imagination. And before you type what dataminers found, need I remind you of the stuff dataminers found that were never implemented not only in Pokemon but across many games. Gamefreak could easily not put them in and go with something else.
@@blackmark2899 That's why it's just a theory for now. But the imagined paradoxes will 100% become obtainable
@@HackerAtesh maybe. We still don't know that for sure. Temper your expectations.
Just FYI: The Scarlet/Violet Books are available from the moment you enter the Academy, you don't need to reach postgame to read it. Unless more entries are added afterward, but I don't think they are.
I started a new save file to check. All entries are in the SV book when you first get to the academy, they weren't trying to hide it from you.
It’s not pointed out to you until you attend the history classes, but a keen eye can check it out from the beginning.
The Ruin Quartet were given to the treasure loving king by a travelling salesman. Being given to said king is what set them off in the first place
I wanted to say that but i did not knew how
Volo causing destruction yet again
Also to note the Ruinous Quartet destroyed the Paldean Empire the same night their relics were acquired.
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I feel like the merchant was someone who travelled the Pokémon World’s equivalent of the Silk Road - which I guarantee the Ginkgo Guild originated from, too.
I am convinced that Glimmora is related to the spherical, hexagonally-plated 3rd legend, possibly in the same way that Koraidon and Miraidon are related to Cyclizar. Besides being a spherical, glowing crystal-like pokemon (reminiscent of terastallization both in concept and potentially in the latter's etymology) who can open its body up to become flatter, it is the only pokemon who greets you in the postgame quest to Area Zero who is not explicitly a paradox pokemon, it is the ace pokemon of the region champion, and Geeta even seems to be designed to resemble one. For me, there are too many connections there to not think that Glimmora has an intrinsic relation to the tera phenomenon.
Honestly agree, but as I was winding down the Area Zero mission, I was really convinced that Geetas connection with the Glimmora was going to come into play with the time machine stuff. I played Violet. Since the first time I saw Geeta I was convinced she was connected to the paradox Pokemon and the time machine because she is so thoroughly unnatural looking compared to everyone else in Paldea. I thought she would end up being from the future.
And there’s so many glimmora at the bottom area zero it’s def suspicious
I find a lot of things about Area Zero odd. Currently the two most popular theories regarding our Disk Friend is that it has time travel based powers or it has imagination/wish based powers. If it can effect the area around it, sending out Pokemon of different times, that would explain the herba mystica and the paradox Pokemon being discovered so long ago.
But, imagination is also possible. The Pokemon seem like something someone made up, possibly based on those strange descriptions in the other books. If I recall, the king sent people into Area Zero, regardless of the danger. Maybe they didn't die but rather they didn't want to go back to their king, they wished that something would keep them from going back to him. Thus, Disk Friend made a paradise from whence they never returned. Heath wanted to find something so the Pokemon gave him a Paradox Pokemon, Herba Mystica, and then eventually revealed itself to him. Sada/Turo wanted funding for their research and a world full of future/past Pokemon, so it gave them Terrastel energy and spat out Paradox Pokemon via the time machine. Ah, but that then begs the question, where did Sada/Turo go if not the future/past.
I'm also curious about the dream Heath had. He got separated from his team and mentioned that he spoke to someone before writing down the symbol, which he doesn't remember doing. Of course, this is all pure conjecture. We simply don't know enough. I personally hope it's an imagination based Pokemon as I don't want another time based one but it could just be time based.
Something super interesting to be is that all the crystals in area zero have reflective properties, like a mirror. Even more interesting, when you enter a tera raid battle, the Pokémon you’re after is reflected in the crystallized walls. Perhaps this Pokémon can create Pokémon reflected by peoples desires, such as the desire to learn about the ancient past or future? Kind of a shot in the dark but I’d expect some sort of “be careful what you wish for” moral to be involved. In fact it already is, since the professor discovering the second legendary is what got them killed.
Since the machine could potentially bring fiction in to reality hence, why the book is needed to power the machine, it is possible if used to the other way around it could bring the person in a fictional reality
@@azunkor422 That would be a cool DLC story, although it's actually that the book was step one in shutting down the time machine, this then activated the self defense protocols and then the AI had to go through it to shut it down.
Well, regardless of the book's purpose in the time machine, or whatever it is, I could see the story either transporting the heroes into a dream world, or a new layer is discovered in Area Zero that is essentially a living dream world.
Its Mystery of the Unown all over again.
Crysral Entei, Crystal Suicune and Crysral Raikou when.
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@@bajanyaoikaizer6902 I would be perfectly ok with that, I loved that movie. And I mean, something has to prompt us into going down into Area Zero, seeing as how it's the forbidden zone that one can only go into if given permission. Maybe we get a mystery transmission begging for help or maybe crystals begin growing out of Area Zero, terraforming the land, prompting us into going down to investigate.
After what happened in the main story, I accept anything as being possible.
The idea of Heath having a time machine does not make sense as his Team did not expect to encounter the Paradox Pokemon at all. This must mean that they were not the ones who brought them there.
There is a Theory that Paradox Pokemon aren't Paradox at all, more like they are Imagined Pokemon that became a Reality according to the Users Wishes
@@squalleonkeneddyheart4191 Yeah, I personally believe it, I think they come from Heath and his team's imagination, then Sada/Turo imagined the same thing because they read the book.
@@squalleonkeneddyheart4191 The talking to someone and found unconscious makes me wonder if he might have gotten taken over and made to write/draw the pokemon of the past and future. Like a prophet.
Im pretty sure its the work of this disk pokemon which i belive its not even a pokemon but rather a living time machine
Dude the professors literally made a time machine, how was that suppose to be connected to "imagination".
There’s also the interesting geoglyph on the ground of the cave that you find Roaring Moon in. It’s the same symbol on the ground of the first station you go to before you go into area 0 for the first time. Surely that was there before Sada/Turo established their stations. Also, the Portuguese were a big trading force in Japan in the 16th century, and did a lot of commerce in western Honshu (basically, Johto). They would also hit China on the way back, which explains the Chinese names of the ruinous Pokémon.
Glad someone mentioned the connection with Portugal and its trade routes! The way the Paldean Empire collapsed also mirrors how the Spanish empire collapsed due to looking for treasure (albeit overseas and not domestically).
Did you notice in this cave the ledge at the very back you can climb onto? Climb up and follow it around and you come to a ledge that overlooks the very geoglyph you're talking about. I'm absolutely positive that this will somehow be a key part of any DLC or sequel game.
Really enjoyed how this game presents its region's lore. Especially in the new age of DLC, it feels like we have more of an idea of what to expect versus Sword and Shield. Excited for what comes next!
The Heath Expedition was said to be 100 years before the current time, not 200. Just semantics, but details like that, especially with how much lore they packed into the games for Paldea, are very important
100? Really? Wasn't the history class told that 200 years ago?
Definitely 200 years ago, that is inline with Hisui's (theoretical) time
Hi! I’ve been keeping up with everything Scarlet & Violet and just wanted to pop in and add a few more things!!
- the ruinous Pokémon are based off of the four perils in Chinese mythology and it’s interesting to note that their names are the same in Mandarin instead of localised*
- according to raifort’s history classes, they came to paldea via a merchant from the east who sold them to the king
- people have been speculating that these things could hint to an upcoming Chinese region? I also noticed a number of Chinese dishes featured in the game’s restaurants myself (mapo tofu, hot and sour soup, etc)
* I made a video on my channel that explains a bit on how to pronounce their names and while the names are p much the same for three of them (Jian Bao ➡️ Chien-Pao, Jian Wo ➡️ Wo-Chien, Ding Lu ➡️ Ting Lu) Chi-Yu is actually Yu Yu in Mandarin so it may come from “Chi You” a Chinese deity descended from the flames
Otherwise the names are pretty literal translations as to what they are
Jian Bao: Sword leopard
Jian Wo: Bamboo slip snail
Ding Lu: Cauldron deer
Yu Yu: Jade fish
I was really excited to see all this subtle cultural stuff in the game so sorry for the super long comment 😂 Hope this was a fun piece of trivia!
Thank you
A youtuber LockstinAndNoggin covered the quartet and mentioned that onne of the reasons they kept the chinese names was because of the way the chinese language works. Essentialy, the context of words change their meaning, so the words used have several different meanings, which they couldn't do with english names
Id like to know what pokemon attacked Arven down in Area Zero. You never explicitly find out which paradox mon did it, and with his mabostiff being as a high a level as it is (and a weirdly strong mon if you check out its stats) with him you see all of your games mons, and he never says which species did it.
I could see it being an imagined Pokémon that did it. It would make a good story for the dlc. Arven going back down to see what the creature was or get revenge.
I assumed it was the evil version of the box legendary.
@@johnbarney8748yeah, that's what I would have assumed as well. Didn't he like... not actually get a good view of it?
Zygarde was teased in the Pokémon Channel in the Legendaries video. He starts to transform and you can see the Hexagon circle that is referenced as a “disk” Pokémon in the scarlet/violet books.
Really? Which video was this?
Are you talking about the crown tundra
The disk in my head just looks like the tera raid shield and the actual pokemon is behind it, we can see some of it at the top
You can also see like it's head at the top with star eyes, a shell back with a crown on it, and something that looks like waves or a tail with a ship on the back
I can get what your going at but its probably not zygarde because according to AI Turo/Sada the paradox pokemon will destroy the ecosystem and Zygarde as we know it is a guardian and protector of the ecosystem
The Mysterious stranger Heath met could be our Professor going back at the end of the game, thus closing the loop.
This still leaves open the question as to where the Paradox Pokémon came from in the first place, and how the Terastal Disk comes into play at all. 🤔
It's a useful exercise to think of possible "third game" ideas.
For S/V, instead of thinking of past, future, and then present, but I think the third game theme is likely, what once was, what will be, and finally what could be. This might explain why The S/V books mention "Imagined" Pokemon.
Or just straight up alternate timelines. I could see it going either way.
Dude they've moved on from third versions. That's why we got DLC instead on gen 8.
@@Treasure-Awaits Hence the quotations they used…
@@purpleemerald5299 I know............ lmao
The mysteries in gen 9 is really interesting
certainly one of the games that left us with very little context at the end of the main story.
3:50 I wonder if there's any chance the original form of Zekrom, Reshiram and Kyurem could be revealed.
If we're doing fusions they have to throw in the OG form, right?
Not In another region. It will be in black and white remakes or legends kyurem
heath is pictured with a cyclizar, i wonder if he has anything to do with koraidon and miraidon being brought back or created
There's a theory that the Paradox Pokemon actually came from Heath and his team's imagination, and then Heath probably imagined that his partner Pokemon would have been super strong in the past or future.
the scarlet/violet books really are a treasure trove of fascinating mysteries, i would love to see these depths probed further.
Another mystery I have found, and I firmly believe has to do with the Ruinous Quartet, is that in the cave where you can find Iron Valiant/ Roaring Moon, is the circles on the ground that seem to correspond to the four shrines for these pokemon. In addition to that, this seems to be the only place in Area Zero where Greavard, Houndstone and Chansey spawn. This is notable because Greavard and Houndstone are obviously ghost type and have to do with death, and Chansey is drawn to cure sick people and pokemon. I think more will be to the cave in the DLC.
Especially since at the very back of that cave, there's a ledge that you can climb up onto and follow through an arch to end up on another ledge that overlooks and gives a brilliant view of that giant geoglyph on the floor. That ledge was put there for a reason. Something is going to happen in this area in the DLC.
I'm not sure where the games are going with the legendaries but I feel like Raifort has a big connection to the quartet or even the king of Paldea.
did you take the history classes in the academy?
@@roberthararisfadia2262 Yeah I finished the entire thing. I got the quartet too.
@@MrBoi64yeah it was for sure useful to know were chi-yu's shrine was
Could be a descendent of the King. Got almost an obsession vibe from Raifort, even for a history buff. Maybe she feels the Treasure of Ruins belong to her because of her bloodline. Someone clearly went to great lengths to seal them away, but Raifort is pretty happy with you unlocking them.
Another thing I’ve thought of is that glittering cave in kalos could be related to area zero aswell as if the DLC is in kalos it could say something about this
I think there is a possibility that the "disk pokemon" is the time machine itself, and that the time machine, once created, existed at all points in time and so paradox pokemon came from it in all times, which is how Heath's team found them in area zero. The inside of the time machine is a bright, shining crystal that appears as a series of interlaced hexagons. Maybe at some point Heath was brought into the time machine, and that is what his episode in the violet/scarlet book details. Just a theory. Terastralization could just be a phenomenon of the crystals, and not of a pokemon in particular, unlike Dynamaxing was with Eternatus. Or, maybe there is a pokemon we are unaware of at the heart of the time machine. Hopefully DLC answers all that.
FYI: You can read the Scarlet book at any time once you have free access to the school. It doesn’t have to be after you beat the game.
I’m really interested in the Legendary Pokémon mentioned in the Scarlet/Violet Book that’s more than likely responsible for the Terastal Phenomenon. When the games were first revealed and we saw that Poké Ball flying through those crystals, I thought the third Legendary could possibly be a Rock/Dragon covered in gemstones, but a World Turtle-inspired Pokémon seems interesting too. I wonder if it somehow has a natural ability to pull things from different points of time, since I don’t know how the Area Zero expiation team could have seen the Paradox Pokémon down there way before the Professor built the time machine. Either that, or maybe it can somehow manifest things from people’s imaginations into reality…?
Also, like with every Pokémon game, one of the biggest questions I have is just who the heck is littering every region with various items? Are they being carelessly dropped by other trainers, or are they maybe planted by the Pokémon League for trainers to find?
You may be on to something with the pokeball flying through crystals!
I'm pretty sure the pokeball flying through the crystals in the trailer, was one of the pokeballs the professor sent through the time machine; the crystals in the background look very similar to the chamber where you fight the AI.
There's the possibility that the time machine can not only pull things from other times to the present, but can send things to other points in time as well- like sending future pokemon into the past, or pulling ancient pokemon to the near-past. Or maybe the time machine itself can travel through time, with the AI helming it.
@@Zoreta Yeah, I figured the Poké Ball is meant to be Koraidon/Miraidon’s since they’re the only Paradox Pokémon Sada/Turo owned that was in a regular Poké Ball and not a Master Ball. I just thought that the crystals themselves belonged to the third Legendary somehow, which seems like it could be the case.
Regarding the Paradox Pokémon in the Scarlet or Violet book. My theory is that getting a Pokémon from the past or future had a lot of trial and error before it was a success. So what I'm getting at is that due to miscalculations the Pokémon were simple brought to the wrong time period
That hexagon turtle Pokémon may be in fact related to Zygarde and we know the face of it is on the emblem of any terastallized Pokémon and looks similar to Zygarde 100% form and the drawing has a face that looks like the 50% of Zygarde. You also should’ve covered what’s hiding in the northeast of the map as it’s blocked by mountains and has lines on the map.
The blocked portion of the map is actually very EASY to identify if you know some basic geography of Europe and the Iberian Peninsula. That's the shared border with France/Kalos.
@@maracaegrizzley8734 but if that was 100% acute then if you found the highest point you'd see Kalos. Which even on clear days you can't.
@@Treasure-AwaitsTHIS is definitely not the game to analyze based on its distance rendering capacity…
@@purpleemerald5299 All I'm saying is if something was there you'd be able to see .
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Get her [Game Freak], Jade! 😂
I think the Disk pokemon is the "time machine" or part of it atleast, like how team star used revavroom to make the starmobiles.
I've heard that the Treasures of Ruin are inspired by a particular Chinese myth, that places them as the opposite of the genie trio of Unova (+Hisui).
This, paired with a bunch of respect for Unovan Pokémon (including the Imagined Pokémon) , and the very recent reveal of Enamorus, makes me suspect we may see a Unovan remake that connects with Paldea.
The imagined Legendary Beast fusion also makes me wonder about a Johto remake. I hypothesize we will be getting a Pokémon Legends Celebi game, and an open world updated remake of Unova some time soon. Maybe one of these will involve time travel to the future!
I believe the clearest indication that we will get a DLC is the unavailable area on the east side of the map. Hopefully that DLC includes a lot of lore and interesting new pokemons to discover.
That's the land border for Kalos, as the Iberian Pennisula of which Paldea is based on borders France, of which Kalos is based on, in the exact same spot. And on the Kalos map, its southern border is mountains. (These are the Pyrenees Mountains in France)
If anything, by the way, I feel as though the DLC will be centered on the Balearic Islands.
You don't have to complete the game to read the Scarlet/Violet Book. I read it the first time I walked around the entrance hall.
Two theories for the Imagined Beasts: First, it will be retconned or revealed that it was actually a vision of real pokemon that the art drew. Or, the Beast trio and Swords of justice will get new forms like the Bird trio did in SwSh. I think that they will switch types. Suicune will become steel/fighting, Virizion will become electric, etc. The Beasts and Swords trio will switch types with each other.
That would be cool, getting Regional forms of more legendary trios.
I think the paradox Pokemon are not from the future or past rather the third legendary made them based on the imagination of the explorers that went down. They give us clues in some of the dex entries stating that they resemble something mentioned in a sci-fi magazine. That is why they were around before turo and sada built the so called time machine what probably ended up happening is they awakened the third legendary and it started making those pokemon again.
When you brought up the paradox pokemon being seen 200 years ago but not having any Time Machine back then and not knowing how they got there, but if they get access to the Time Machine at any point they could theoretically exist in any timeline! That may actually be why they're called paradox pokemon o.o
I know one thing for sure. The treasures of ruins theme is an absolute delight. One of my favorite tracks from this game along with the final battle with AI and all the Aero Zero themes. It makes me hopeful that next gen we're going to China. I feel China would be a wonderful place to make a new gen on because of all the history, beautiful locations, and lore possibilities.
there have been theories going around that the paradox pokemon are in fact, not from the past/future. Instead they are created from imagination.
All these paradox forms seem to have been known within old folktales long before turo or sada seemingly took them from the future. I think what is happenings is that this disk pokemon is capable of manifesting the paradox forms out of peoples imagination and that could be the reason heath saw these pokemon 200 yers before they were taken from the future.
It would make more sense, honestly. A paradox is, by definition, something that can't exist but does. Future forms and past forms do exist, and the possibility of Time Machines means their presence in present time isn't a paradox at all.
The Legendary "Imagination God" then turned the Professor's dreams into reality, just like in the movie 3. And since the Professor's dream is to live with Pokemons from the Past or the Future, Pokemons from different times appeared.
It all makes sense. But I don't think this will turn out this way. The way I see it, Game Freak had _originally_ planned for Paradoxes to come from imagination, but changed their plans at the last minute and came up with the idea of Time Travel. I mean, let's be real, a game that is barely even begun (and clearly unfinished) has likely had a terrible development.
Who knows though, maybe the DLCs will prove me wrong.
The topic about the Treasure of Ruin you missed the fact that the History Teacher tells you about the 4 items of ruination and has you seek them out as a side quest and tells more about the story connection between them and the King.
BW/B2W2 is set for a remake in a few years, then for Johto-GSC/HGSS, the only thing that makes sense is a Let's GO or Legends set IN Johto.
My theory is that the Legendary Beast fusion was acctually one pokemon in the past, but it split itself up, creating the Legendary Beast Trio. Same thing for the Swords Of Justice fusion just reverse: in the future, the swords of justice fuse to create one stronger being.
I'm hoping we get the virizion and suicune in DLC.
I believe their fusion
@@Boltofbrilliance122 but here main inspiration comes from suicune and virizion
@@keano1301 it looks more like Raikou with suicune’s headpiece to me
I mean in the anime Goh does have a Suicune and one Goh's friends/rivals was revealed to have recently caught a Virizion. So maybe the anime's foreshadowing
@@RoflCannon6 it's all 3 of them
Seeing that they fused the swords of justice trio gives me hope that one day we can see the fusion of the Tao trio into the original dragon one day
I can't help but notice that Zygarde is also made of hexagons and his region is right next to Paldea
If the DLC is just the Z game we should’ve gotten, I will be incredibly happy.
However, this is Game Freak and I have treatment-resistant depression. So, I’m sure that’s what we will get nor will I be happy. 😂
@@jarrodn.1279 Hey, another member of the treatment resistant depression gang!
We already know all about the treasures of ruin.
My HC to explain the sightings 200 years ago as Pokemon returning too early/too far in the past.
The 3rd legend is clearly the origin of the crater
@HoopsandHipHop
Have you seen the upper right corner of the Map? (North East), above the icy mountains...
A chunk of map is blocked off for future use/travel.
Perhaps more Paradox Pokémon will be revealed to have escaped into the area between Kalos and Paldea?...
Heath has remained alive for 200~ years, and kept the Paradox-mon from escaping further into the World at large.
Gen 10 likely brings a throwback to Gen5, explains the attention to the Swords. Gen2 could be a solid filler for the back half of Gen9 (loved your earlier video on that topic). Many theories I have heard say that Zygarde is the Disk Pokemon, which tracks if we truly believe Paldea to be bumped up against Kalos in-game. Hexagons, Ouroboros reference, the imagery of small being shaped like the cells you find throughout Kalos, yada yada yada. Would be an excellent tie-in.
I think we will be seeing AI sada or the violet one again as they traveled through the time machine and might encounter the king. He could be a part of the possible DLC or DLCs as a villian who uses the "imaginary" pokemon one in the first and the other in the second ( or as a version exclusive like dog trio in scarlet and swords of justice in violet). This might be very interesting and I would personaly love to see it and would connect some of these mysteries together. You might also have to catch the 4 sealed legendaries as they might be the manifestations of his items or talismens and could be the key to taking him down! Thats just my theory though.
3:53 to 4:11 Raging Bolt, Gouging Fire, and Walking Wake in Scarlet. In Violet, the Pokemon are Iron Crown, Iron Boulder, and Iron Leaves.
4:18 they have and we did.
For the first question I think they are hinting the next gimmick in generation 10 which is fusion evolution, Pokémon has hinted every gimmicks before they were announced like mega evolution was hinted in Misty's dream and Dynamax in the Giant Dragonite episode and Terastallizing in the Crystal Onix episode.
Fusion evolution is also hinted in the Gastly episode where all the gen 1 starters fused together and in Black 2 & White and Ultra Sun & Ultra Moon.
This is basically a hint.
so one big thing for me when viewing these games as a whole is that i think the time travel elements are a red herring - the points that lead me to this conclusion are: 1) Paradox Pokémon being sighted 200 years before the time machine was allegedly built.
2) That every Paradox Pokémon lines up with some obviously made up pulp nonsense in sci-fi magazines you find in the library.
3) The AI Professor can't leave the crater and has to remain close to the crystals at the bottom of the crater to continue functioning.
3-b) The real Professor being able to make the AI Professor in the first place. Or a time machine for that matter (with nary a reference or nod to the two Pokémon we know that can manipulate time).
3-c) The real Professor's motivations for doing what they did.
4) The presence of the imaginary Pokémon in the book, obviously setting up that they're going to appear later.
5) That the Disk Pokémon has its info redacted every time it gets brought up, in both the book (Arven mentions post-game that the book is blurred out in the exact same way in every single copy) and the Professor's Journals.
5-b) Heath details a dream he has scattered memory of and includes a page full of stuff he apparently wrote that he doesn't understand.
6) The Disk Pokémon is apparently the source of Terastallization, a phenomena which can change a Pokémon to any type.
To me, all these little details point to this Disk Pokémon being some kind of reality warper/wish fulfilment type. Heath and the research team wanted to see strange Pokémon, it made strange Pokémon for them to find. The Professor was obsessed with ancient/futuristic Pokémon, dedicated their lives to finding them, and use the crystals in the crater to apparently achieve that, and then when they need another pair of hands that understands their vision of paradise, and build an AI and house it in an almost indistinguishably human-like chassis, once again with the help of the crystals. They have the impossible idea then somehow achieve it using elements derived from this unknown Pokémon (and Terastallization being a literal crystallization of that - 'wouldn't it be cool if X Pokémon was Y type?').
All information on this Pokémon is obscured because it doesn't want to be found.
When this Paradox Beast/Sword appears that'll be the clincher that time travel wasn't what was really going on and we're dealing with something else entirely. Something that has had eyes everywhere this entire game, in the crown every Terastallized Pokémon wears.
The ancient hound is for the legends Celebi game we’ll be getting. Ancient Johto will be getting explored next. And the future swords of justice is for the Unova remakes
Johto beasts are hounds or dogs, but big cats.
@@victordottaviano645 they’re not cats? They’re said to be reincarnated Flareon, Vaporeon, and Jolteon. Which all three are more fox like, canine, than cat like. I’m not sure where you’re getting your info. Plus they’re always listed as the legendary hounds, dogs, beasts. But they are dog like for sure.
@@PapaBilbo83 Sorry, mate. I meant they're big cats, but it seems that many people still refers to them as "dogs" and i find this very awkward since Raikou is a sabertooth tiger, Entei is a lion and Suicune is a leopard.
For the first mystery I have two takes:
- the Person who drew them from the imagination was from Johto/Unova and used the Lewgendary Trio from their region as the basis,
- there might be some bigger deal with those Pokemon indeed as in Pokemon recently Goh's friend Horace was revealed to own a Verizon which is kinda in sync with Goh's Suicune.
You can read the scarlet/violet book in the entrance at almost any time. You may have to take the second history lesson? Which gets unlocked after your second gym badge, I think?
They're always there! The game just don't tell you about it unless you take the classes LOL
It could be the time machine missed it’s mark by a few hundred years and just dropped the paradox pokémon randomly in time
I think it is important to mention that the tera crystals were the key to the appearance of the paradox pokemon. I think it would be safe to hypothesis that the time travel device just focuses the time abilities of the crystals and that potentially these crystals could organically travel past/future pokemon. The event of the collision could have transferred the energy to the crystals leaving the paradox pokemon there since the great crater and the professor simply increased the amount of them in the crater.
So, Tera Crystals could also play a role in Tera Types being a possible Type swap from ancestral blood reawakening or a possible Type change for future lineage (if that particular Pokémon's blood line continues on into the future)?
@@Knight41b i think that is a good possibility. When you find a pokemon thats dual type it will inherently have one of the two types as the tera. The tera shards however can change this type which could mean pokemon types are caused by these shards initially and then they bred into the wild and thats why squirtle is water. The ancestor pokemon mew is psychic so all pokemon came through psychic but developed other types
@@chandlergarrison7926 Mew is a Psychic Type naturally. Psychic typing tends to be a bit unstable, so I can see other types manifesting. Kind of like how Pyrokinesis & Hydrokinetic abilities are manifestations of Fire & Water, I can see the other Pokémon types spawning from the Psychic Type Mew.
BTW, have you seen the Pokémon fan comic series called Mew & Mewtwo (Dub version is on YT)? Honestly, I think it would be a good watch.
@@Knight41b Sounds really good, i really enjoyed the pokemon manga and I mixed Arceus and mew for a split second.
Heath the expedition dude will most likely have some form of appearance in the DLC.
What I'm hoping for is that we get a legends arceus set of games, only with one is in Johto and is in the past, while the other one is in Unova and is in the future or vis versa.
15:59 that crown might lead to a very specific conclusion! Perhaps relating to the four treasures
and the fact that the four treasures are dark type
and this disk pokemon is the reason terrastilization is so bright and shiny
I have a feeling we'll be seeing AZ again. With the talk of Kalos being DLC along with many talks in the game about thousand year history, I wouldnt be surprised if he waltzed on into the story.
They canonized that Pokemon Sword/Shield and Arceus are past life for our characters. Its said if you talk to a random npc by school. I think thats cool😊
14:39 Perhaps just like Necrozma, it's a pokemon that attaches itself onto other ones to gather energy from them for an unknown forme we are yet to see. That picture reminds me so much to SMT's Shaddai. I cannot unsee after losing so many times against it in Dx2 😛
What I'd really like for DLC content is to actually explore the behavior and habitats of the Paradox Pokemon. Their Pokedex entries state almost nothing about them, other than they are cryptids that have been spotted in the past. And it would be cool to make them breedable, as well as introduce what their pre-evolutions looked like in the past. I'm curious what Foongus, Bagon, Shelgon, Igglybuff, Larvesta, Magnemite, and Phanphy looked like in the distant past. It might even be cool to see a Flutter Mane evolution with Mismagius traits, and same thing goes for a Scream Tail evolution.
Personally, I would like DLC to allow us to explore the past and future versions of Paldea (and for the record, I don't care if it takes 2-3 years to complete, because that would be awesome!). While some of the entries are fun (Iron Jugulis is speculated as being the offspring of a Hydreigon that fell in love with a robot), it'd be fun to actually gather real data on them.
Interesting video 👍🏻 I'm pretty sure that the mystery of the Treasures of Ruin is actually answered in the History class because she talks about a traveller from a foreign land coming and gifting the king with the 4 treasures and then they corrupt Paldea. The king was looking for Treasure in Area Zero, but not specifically Area Zero, he just wanted treasure in general.
Also a little bit of creative feedback, the videos I have watched have great info but it always sounds/feels like you're writing an essay and trying to hit some random word count. A lot less could be said to convey the same information. But good work 💪🏻
i believe I heard in game that the Treasures of Ruin where gifts to the King of the Paldean Empire, I think the Asian inspiration is because the relics that became the Treasures came from an asian region, maybe Johto?
Mmm, their names are too Chinese. Arcanine was said to be popular in China in an old Pokédex entry. Of course they don’t name actual countries and continents now but there’s still probably supposed to be a China-based region out there.
The treasures of ruin aren't a mystery. It clearly states in the history lessons about the king that they were off a salesman or somebody from "the east". When people say from the east they usually mean East Asia / china, in this case the Pokémon world equivalent. This also confirms a Chinese region is canon.
i wonder what eldritch horrors are hiding over at poke!china
Love that you used the Terry Pratchett version of the World Turtle in the visual. His books are epic.
RIP, Sir Terry.
I’m expecting the twist of “all paradox Pokémon are imagined” to happen tbh. Just like how emotions manifested the cursed objects into Pokémon I think the energy in the crater manifested the desires of those who entered and created everything they wanted. For example the professors wanted a Time Machine and they got what we are told is a Time Machine. Kinda like how Pokémon Movie 3 happened
Edit: typo
Or that all pokemon are extinct in the future and these pokemon robot is all that remains
I don’t see the fusion of the legendary trios as entirely different from other paradox Pokémon. Look no further than Iron Valiant. It, too, is a fusion.
It’s possible we may have a Pokémon 3/Molly situation going on here where imagined Pokémon are somehow becoming real.
From what I can gather what makes the pokemon "paradox" is that the pokemon heath encountered were actually sent BY sada or turo by accident, meaning that the professors were inspired by pokemon that they themselves are responsible for bringing. We can see proof of this with the metal plate that Heath discovered which looks identical to those seen in the research stations
The merchant brought forth the four treasures to the King-Beads, Tablets, a Vessel, and a Sword. These treasures were said to be ancient and priceless, so the King showered the merchant in more gold than the merchant could've imagined.
For years the treasures sat, within the Kingdom, and the greed of the people began to set in-the dark emotions and shadowy hearts filled the kingdom, as well as these artifacts, with ill-temptations...
Until one day, when these dark memories had manifested within the artifacts and gave life to a quartet of equally powerful dark souls. They destroyed the Kingdom, and took through the land, leveling any place that reeked with ill intention... for ___ months/years.
Until one day, a hero/the Merchant, returned to the once Paldean Empire, and helped the people battle and subsequently seal the ruinous quartet within 4 specially crafted chambers around the vast lands of Paldea.
The Merchant was never seen again, and the Ruinous Quartet were left undisturbed for the rest of time...
[The Merchant could've been cursed like the quartet, and has become Gimmighoul/Gholdengo...?]
I love how detailed oriented this Gen. I’m very happy with the product GameFreak put out
Excluding the frame rate issues and glitches, I agree
3:27
If this thing isn’t called “Iron Justice” I’m gonna be pissed. It’s badass and fits too well
I mean Iron Valiant is a Gardevoir/Gallade fusion, so the fusion for the imagined Pokemon isn't so Farfetch'd (if you'll pardon the pun)
What is wild is that the Scarlet Book was made before the Legendary beasts were revived by Ho-oh in the current form.
just a quick note. You can find the book at the beginning of the game.
You just have to look at the book shelves.
The scarlet/violet book is available from the very first second you enter the academy my dude, it's not postgame at all
Did you also not pay attention to any of Raifort's dialog or something? The quartet's backstory is literally all spelled out
Two questions that really stuck to me when playing the games, how did the Paradox Pokémon exist before Sada/Turo’s time machine and one of the caves in Area Zero, with the four symbols on the ground, where you find Roaring Moon and Iron Valiant. No one seems to be talking about it and it always stuck in my mind, especially when I’m shiny hunting or XP grinding. If you look at the Pokémon Scarlet/Violet title border, I’m pretty sure the symbol is on it.
You can actually access the Scarlet and Violet books from inside the academies at the beginning of the game, once you arrive to the academy. You don't have to wait till the post-game to access them and read all the entries.
Hear me out: he talked about the world turtle being somehow related to the secret legendary. Imagine if what they saw was a relative to an even BIGGER Pokémon- a Pokémon, say, underneath area zero? Maybe the entirety of area zero is the back of a giant turtle Pokémon that decided that Paldea was the perfect place to keep the ancestors/descendants safe. Idk just spitballing this just came to mind. Pokémon probably wouldn’t try anything that ambitious or big but I thought it’d be cool- also probably wouldn’t make sense in the lore of Paldea but still idk
Wouldn’t it be wild if at the end of the DLC, after dealing with Heath, the third legendary disc Pokémon, time travel, etc., the time machine lets us meet the ancient king of the Paldean Empire, and learn more about the Paldean legendary quartet, maybe even a connection to the Swords of Justice fusion Pokémon, and the king tells us before going back to his time period “by the way, give my regards to my brother, the king of Unova...” then BOOM we get Black and White 3
The first game we saw somekind of fusion between Pokémon was black and white 2, and according to the end of ultra sun or moon, colres and giovanni have a machine that alow them to travel between dimensions. My hypothesis is that we will receive the remake of black and white to connect the stories, and after that, a third game to close the scarlet and violet main history.
And I also believe that all the games that are different after ultra sunmoon happened because of the ultra holes. Before that, all games followed a patern, that was broken after this event.
16:30 Idk, probably has something to do with the massive crop circle inside the area zero cave where you get Iron Valiant.
These four Legendaey Pokémon is basically a counterpart of the Alola Guardians, they all has a signature move that cut the enemy HP at 50% but one is Fairy and the other Dark, and if you see carefully:
Fairy/Eletric < Dark/Ground
Fairy/Grass < Dark/Ice
Fairy/Water < Dark/Grass
Fairy/Psychic < Dark/Fire
One problem though, they're supposed to be somewhat based on the four perils, the counterparts to the four cardinal directions. And the ones who represent the four cardinal directions are Tornadus, Thundurus, Landorus and Enamorus.
4:14 the looks of paradox viridium and suicune are great
*Virizion
I’ve been thinking about this for a while now, and I’m not sure if this is a silly coincidence but the Scarlet/Violet Book, as they mentioned: the Disc Pokémon’s shell overlaps with hexagonal layers. Other than having a possible connection w/ Zygarde, has anyone noticed that our homeroom teacher Jacq, if I’m not mistaken, has hexagonal glasses? I don’t want to get into to much detail but I believe he mentioned that he was also a researcher alongside Clavell. He possibly also worked alongside Sada/Turo just how Clavell did. He therefore could’ve acquired the books & learned more about the Disc Pokémon, but who knows, I guess I’m just writing bs. I would find it hysterical if he was actually evil behind closed doors, and he never mentioned anything whatsoever that would make us suspect him for being evil.
Also, seeing that photo of Heath, he had a slight resemblance to Clavell, imo.
Did you even take the history class?? Raifort tells you the whole story of the king that received the Ruinous beasts as gifts, it's not a mystery, it's right there in the game..
Also not as big of a misinfo but I'm p sure you can access the S/V book from the get go
I think the potential idea of the combined pokemon is continent shifting, either from a Regi or natural movement Unova and Kanto crashing into another or having some form of combined game.
The legendary quarter/treasures of ruin is answered in the game. Raifort tells you the story. A merchant from the East sells the treasures to the Paldean king. That night the treasures come to life and start destroying the kingdom. They are then locked away. It’s clear the East region is meant to be China/Pokémon worlds version of China
I feel like that mysterious pokemon is related to the old king of paldea. It might even be the king himself, a result of coming in contact with whatever made the crater in the first place. It's got a crown, even. It's so kingly, the terrastalization it causes even gives OTHER things crowns.
When we look at Heath in one of his pictures, he has a Cyclizard but hear out my theory: what if Heath was in the expedition team and died in area zero to a Pokemon and the rest of the expedition
Team ran away with the Information without telling everything. And Heaths Cyclizard was left behind with Heath in a rush for all these ages until it became the Koraidon/Miraidon of the area zero and attacked the Protagonist,Nemona,Arven and Penny cause that reminded the Koraidon/Miraidon of his owners death and the expedition team that forgot it for all these ages.
Just a theory of mine: The third legendary, the entity behind the crystals, is from beyond the stars. A being that similar to Deoxys (which also is often depicted with triangles) can travel between planets in a sort of hibernation form. In this form it crashed into a prehistoric paldea thereby creating the crater of Area 0.
I think the tera cristal like the big one in the room of the time machine make the present pokemon revive their old form so the tera cristals have the power about time and that why the time machine work with a enormous size tera cristals
Every time I think about the crystal shell pokemon, I think of the room the time machine is in.
I believe the treasures of ruin are Asian themed to hint to a China based region that will come later down the line maybe gen 10 or 11
As for why China themed Pokémon would be in a Spain based region could refer to the royal families of Spain collecting items and animal that may be common in their country of origin but virtually unheard of in Spain making them a grand and valuable treasure
Youre right on the second part. We're even told in game.
I think you might be right about the first part too, its kinda like Gen 5 having the Swords of Justice based on a French story, then having Kalos
Actually if you take Raifort’s class even more, if is directly stated that the treasures of ruin were given to the king by a salesman.
Imagined Pokémon? Wow! A new set of Pokémon we never hesrd of! I hope they become a thing of reality someday 😊😊
Couldn't paradox Pokémon appearing in the past be an attempt by AI to send some of them back? Just because they can pull things from the past/future, doesn't mean you can't send them back as well. That would mean it's entirely possible the paradox Pokémon still appeared through time travel to Heath and his team, although sent back at the wrong time. In a weird way would mean the professor's eventual goal to investigate the mysteries of area zero, could've been created by their own future ai after their death, in some sort of loop.
It makes so much sense that the games are about time travel because the Paradox pokemon obviously and the Legends of Arceus pokemon
Legends Johto (a backstory regarding the burnt tower and ho-oh?) and Black 3/White 3 (a fusion of the 3 musketeers for number 3 and then they also introduced a new genie in legends)... that's my guess as to what they're hinting at.
Ive felt that these paradox pokemon are what they are because they arent originally from the Past/Future, but current pokemon caught into whatever time dilation of the location and having to adapt into those environments, thus why they are paradoxes.
I don’t remember where I read this or which character told me this in the game but there is a story about the King and it goes as follows;
[START]
A King was in search of only the rarest most valuable of treasures. A mysterious traveling merchant never before seen in the kingdom and not one of the usual merchants traveling through comes to the kingdom claiming to have brought 4 invaluable treasures to the Kingdom having heard of the Kings obsession with rare and valuable items. The King takes a look at the items and instantly sees their value and pays an unthinkable amount to buy them from the mysterious merchant. The four treasures were an ancient sword, a bowl, tablets with writing on them, and rare beads. But when the King brought them into his kingdom the “treasures” turned out to actually be extremely powerful Pokémon. Has he been tricked? Did the merchant know? The 4 ruinous Pokémon completely ravaged and destroy the kingdom destroying everything in sight. Some rare trainers of Pokémon tried to stop them but they were too strong. They destroyed and destroyed until there was nothing left of the once prominent kingdom except a few scattered what is now ruins. It is not known who the mysterious merchant was or if he knew that the treasures were Pokémon or if he knew exactly what he was doing and purposefully brought the downfall of the kingdom or to what end. Was he a spy from another waring region of Paldea or simply an innocent merchant. Unfortunately we will never know. [END.]
I tried to write as best I remember it. All this was said in the actual game. I didn’t make any of that up.
Ps. Regarding the story, I completely believe that this “merchant” from 2,000 years ago has got to be none other than Volo!
My theory regarding the "Disk Pokemon" is that it is the base crown piece that Terra Jewels are perched on.
Consider the Terra Orb. It is shaped similarly to a pokeball. You toss the Terra Orb onto your pokemon to terrastalize it, almost as if sending out another "pokemon".
Consider the Terra Jewel: it shines brightly no matter the time of day, and no matter the typing, the jewel always has a sort of crown or tiara base, and this base always has what looks like angry eyes on its hexagonal piece.
Therefore, what if, to terrastalize a pokemon, you must apply a sort of parasitic creature: the mysterious "Disk Pokemon"?