War Thunder player tries to fly DCS P 51 part2
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- This is part 2 of playing DCS. Sorry that it took so long to make, I was working on another project too during my free time. If you stick around let me know you enjoyed with a like.
Song used in cinematic shots: • Battlefield 1942 Theme...
I would strongly recommend Chuck's Guides for DCS aircraft. They are pdf guides that give a lot of information about everything having to do with the aircraft, and since they are pdfs you can keep them on a phone or tablet while in sim.
i recently got the F-16 and have the 762 page Chucks guide on my work laptop and phone and just browse whenever :)
@@Baerinho same with the A-10C2 for me. Chucks guides are legendary.... some great humour mixed with the technical stuff that you'd never find in actual flight manuals.
I’m also a War Thunder player going to DCS and I gotta say, flying the phantom is some of the most fun I have had in a plane game and would highly recommend it. Keep it up!
Ah yes, the F-4. Also known as the diesel powered flying brick. lol. It is fun tho.
The P-51 is easy. Now try the Mosquito. The top War Thunder Aces can't even take off or land in DCS. They end up going back to War Thunder and PAC Man.
Sure. I’ll search it up
Eh, I play mcfs and war thunder sim only
If I could play DCS I would, and due to my reading on real aviation I’d imagine I’d be fine
@@Davie-jx4rh sure you could but as you might know from msfs, anything is learnable with time so pretty much anyone could do it
@@Davie-jx4rh I'm sure you could, but it is a nightmare to take off. Both props spin the same way, so all the engine torque is going in one direction. Most two engine planes have engines that spin in opposite directions to off set each other.
@@ExploringSitkaAlaskausin-wj4wu haha, oh bs. took me a couple tries but after an hour or so its a piece of cake to take off and land even the bf109 with its narrow gear. I've read the Spit is really difficult but I dont have it yet so can't comment on it.
This shit was funny asf bro keep it up. cant wait to see how u fly the su 25
LAlt+C gets rid of the cockpit clicker and lets you use the mouse for looking around. Then LAlt+C will enable it again.
Also if you have DCS on standalone you can trial different aircraft and maps for 2 weeks then again after 6 months for each one you try. And you can trial more than one thing at a time.
Godsend
Heck yeah. DCS is so damn satisfying when things finally click and make sense. I haven't tried any of the WW2 craft with weapons yet, just the TF-51 that comes free, but I bet it's so exciting to play multiplayer with them and get kills. I've been playing DCS for 8 months now and it's still one of the only game sI have been playing since I started.
haven't tried multiplayer or the 51 yet, but goddamn the Spitfire is like riding a bull that wants you tf off of it lol
I picked up the P-47 when it came out. She climbs like a pig but once you get up to altitude it’s a monster.
It’s very satisfying learning each aircraft. Remembering all the switches between airframes is a bit tedious, but I like it.
@@yourearidiculouslunatic8435 What do you mean ? the current P-47 variants are really good at just about everything, you can even win dog fights against Kurfürsts if you really know what you are doing.
@@Tacticaviator7 it’s all about the energy tactics in the P-47 is all I’m say’n. And yeah you can beat 109 K’s.
Get yourself a headtracker and the flaming cliffs modules and you'll never wanna go back to WT
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nah, get vr and a full fidelity module, otherwise just stick with War Thunder if you want arcadey useless cockpits (fyi I play both)
VR isn't for DCS imo, unless you're willing to spend 20k on a setup. really bad advice for a new player lmao.
unless your pc or vr headset is a monster and you have enough buttons/control surfaces VR isn't good at all for dcs as you have to dump the graphics into the gutter to be able to run it on a quest 2. not worth the money. better off buying a good hotas and headtracking of any kind. once you're certain, then start upgrading and investing in VR.
(Full fidelity is a must imo even if its overwhelming at first, fc3 is perfect for vr but fc3 is meh)
get a cheap webcam, set up trackIR, buy a cheap throttle and pedals. see how you like it. then upgrade.
@@NuttyGore2039 20K is overly high. a "mid" set up in total, headset, PC, Hotas. should cost around 4-5K. however i do recommend to stay away from VR for now. (i find that VR gaming is still unstable, crashes often or does not work in areas) better to go with to go with track IR or Delan clip as it is cheaper
I just got into DCS and even with the tutorial guiding me, it took me like 45 min to get the F-16 started and taxiing. I have since found faster ways, but yeah, buckle up for the full fidelity modules.
Also, love the penguins clips spliced in. Good stuff.
F-16 was my first Module. Yeah that was a learning curve I knew was gonna be steep. Been flying vipers for about a year and a half now.
IMO, the best "starter plane" for DCS is the F-86. Simple controls, benign handling (as compared to P-51), but enough detail to pique your interest -- and, it's a blast to fly.
The polar opposite is the F-4E -- not only do you have two of everything, but there are some ops that can only be done from the front or rear cockpit, and it flies like a brick.
VR is a double-edged sword: it's more immersive and easier to fly in VR, but you have to have full HOTAS (and then some) because you can't just look at the keyboard.
I fly VR and use VoiceAttack to talk to ground crew / GIB, works surprisingly well, but it's a lot of work to get controls mapped.
always love to see wt players trying dcs, from my experience it is overwhelming but worth it after some time
I switched from war thunder to DCS 3 years ago and I don't regret it. OK, DCS is hard to learn but so satisfying when you master your plane
If you try any jet, I recommend the F18. You can do everything in a single plane. I can do the startup in that within 2 mins.
Also the Su25 does not have a clickable cockpit, so it’s more like war tinder.
Also also, I recommend to use that little hat on your joystick to set as your trim.
Also also also, there is a way to use the mouse. Try double clicking middle mouse as default, but I don’t remember the ingame keybind name.
Super helpful tysm
You dont play DCS for "meta" modules, DCS is a little aviation museum, you get fly the jets you love not the jets that are generally the best like most do in warthunder, if you like the F18 thats cool, but who knows, cold war or WW2 might be his jam, shit maybe even just dropping warheads on foreheads in the A10, thats also where the free trial system comes in handy, on the standalone version you can trial any plane for 2 weeks for free, might wanna have a look at that @headers3445
@@headers3445 supercarrier is a must with the F-18/14's.... such an atmosphere seeing the deck crew do their jobs, bonus points for beautifully bad weather. As long as you're not on steam you can trial the modules and maps for 2 weeks without buying.
Getting from WT into DCS will be an adventure. The realisation that WT sim mode is still just another arcade aahahahaha
The SU 25 is a fairly easy plane to both start and fly. It's a tricycle gear so it's also easy to land. As long as you don't come in to fast. around 300 is good for the SU25 that's what I aim for when I fly it.
I'm a ace combat player. When I finally get this game, probably take me awhile to get the plane off the ground😂😂
Keep it coming, my friend. I started with the unarmed P-51 Trainer that came with the package then. Just as catastrophic but not as funny. Then I decided I needed a jet trainer and bought a module. Came with a 25 page manual on just starting the engines. . .
That being said, the jets are generally easier. Prop strikes go way down, for starters.
You flew well considering you had no previous DCS experience. I hope you enjoy DCS. The SU 25 flies like a brick, I second the idea to get a flaming cliffs plane, or if you want a full featured jet the F-18 will let you do naval, air to ground, and air to air.
this is how i started with DCS, playing around with the mustang for about 20 hours before i tried the jetfighters, i used the mouse and keyboard for about 5 months before buying a hotas, most people say you need a hotas to play but with some patience it's not too bad. if you have not already, with the standalone version of the game you can free trial most aircraft for 2 weeks each. also to look around with your mouse, press "L ALT + C" that's how you switch from mouse look to clicking in the cockpit. great video man. exited to see where you go next in this game!
oh and a lot of people will recommend your first jets to either be the f-18, f-16 or the a-10 warthog. but honestly. the best advice i could give to learn a plane is to get your favorite one, no matter how "hard" or "easy" the game is more fun when you fly what you love. (if the f-18, f-16 or the a-10 warthog are your favorite that is cool as well. just don't buy something because someone else told you to)
@@BumpyDCS f3d-1 is actually my favorite. Simple, navy, and simple again
At least in war thunder XD
@@headers3445 if you like that plane you should probably consider trying out early - mid cold war airplanes. they are challenging but fun. like the f-5, AJS 37 Viggen, MIG 21, MIG 19, f-86-f sabre. those can be fun ways to get into the game. but try before you buy ;)
Later in life i hope to get my pilots license and one day own a simple jet. I’ll look at some of the jets dcs has to offer
If WT would make it harder to takeoff and land (like actually having to do 3 point touchdowns with close to stall speed) - It would help WT players with DCS alot. In DCS the Modules on Realistic Settings are all having their own tactic to take off and land. And that is also not simulated in WT. Not to mention Engine Management etc. It is like going from driving a Tesla to racing in a Dodge Viper. And you need a lot of time to train this in every WW-2 Module because they are all very different. And then comes realistic settings in multiplayer without autoheadtracking a enemy. Then you need to buy a HOTAS and at least Track-IR and get used to it. So many hurdles that it is almost a shame when people like that try something like DCS. Mostly a waste of their time and the same count's for people trying to help them getting into it! You need to be hardcore to get over this, and most WT players are Shooter People with no patience. I don't want to blame Shooter Fans, just that they have to understand that they enter a totally different enviroment with DCS. It is like climbing a mountain of pain to reach satisfaction. And for the most of them - This is not worth it!
Alt c switche the mouse to view mode instead of cursor mode (and back, when pressed again). Also there are bendable snapviews an a view Center bind
Has anyone here noticed the cinamatic music is Battlefield 1942?? Such great memories!
@@wertherland game was from before my time but some how i played it on my old home pc with windows xp. So much fun (i was terrible)
@@wertherland old brit cap voice lines live in my head… “Tallyho!!”
@@headers3445 Oh yes, I played that back in 2000's, bunch a friends in a "cyber cafe" where there was this huge LAN with lots of gaming rigs and we used to play in teams for hours on! Reds and Blues... El Alamein, Guadalcanal, Market Garden... it was amazing, we would end up well past midnight and then take the bus or a taxi back home.
Once I get a capable pc I am getting this game
the feeling when you get everything right must be amazing
best feeling i had in gaming. good luck man :)
I'm seriously flabbergasted that no one offered you any help yet. Well, here I am. First: it's nice to have you here, we are an awesome community here in DCS and most are friendly. If you want, I can help you trying and flying and maybe trying to fly a plane. We can go on my squadrons server and try a few planes, or fly a few. And if you don't want to fly, that's fine too: You can jsut take the Apache, or Phantom, or Strike Eagle and we can drop some bombs or fire some hellfires onto targets: I'd fly you around then^^
And even if you don't take up on that offer: Go ahead, have you fun.
Remember that on Standalone you can trial every module without buying it.
Pretty rewarding, huh? Everything in the cockpit functions like in real life, you can immerse yourself in how this beautiful warbird works. Just standard operation it is a challenge in itself, and then you haven't done any fighting yet. This is why I love DCS. Keep practicing and you'll get the hang of it.
any tips for a new Spitfire pilot to help with your campaign?
@@SA80TAGE I have some tutorials online, if you watch those, you're ready :)
I used a hat switch for view for about a year after getting into DCS. Used a modifier key for trim but it gets exhausting if you need to trim a lot. I couldn't imagine doing it now.
I use a modifier for trim hat too most of the time as i typically have that hat set for slew controls. Don't have enough hats on the x52, mapping the A-10 was a challenge. Don't have a problem with camera controls since i play in vr.
I have yet to start in the sim. this vid gave me some good laughs and some funny stuff to look forward to ;)
If you ever need tips on the mustang, id be happy to fly with you and teach you a thing or 2 about it.
War Thunder player finds out about ground effect.
It just surprised me ok XD
WT sim actually does have ground effect, but it's really toned down. It's still really arcadish.
Dude I would love to see you get into dcs and watch your journey through the sim and its modules. You earned a subscriber dawg, this shit is hilarious. You should watch idiots learn dcs.
Great to hear the Battlefield 1942 music in the middle of the video!
If you have a Webcam, you can use headtracking with open track. Don't need to buy the trackir stuff.
Can't wait to see what module you buy first.
Putting your flaps down after landing only increases the camber of the wing giving you more lift and less of a braking coefficient, significantly extending your ground roll
haha :D ..but he managed to take off :D
Bro keep it up W content. part 3?
Sooo funny to see this as it was ME last month !!! After thousands of hours in WT sim I caved to the summer sale and bought into some warbirds and map modules. I'm slowly getting better.....although I did land it after my first (successful) takeoff. LOL Love the vid.
Me about a year ago too as I started to assemble my setup (vr+Hotas+fight/racing seat). Got pretty competent in the A-10c, had some Maverick fun in the F-18 but havent started fully learning it yet, managed a carrier landing though, despite buckling my landing gear. Got the Spitfire and Normandy in the last sale too, that's a bitch to fly especially if you start airborne. A-10 being my first was hilarious though, took 3 attempts to get a proper landing... should've been 2 but forgot to map wheel brakes and ended up off the end of the runway and in a forest, wrapped round a tree. Can't play as much as I want to though, vr eye strain limits my session time.
Not a bad start. I died probaly 50 times takiing the 109. I use a couple buttons on the base of my stick for left and right breaks for now and it works alright.
Do you know how I can buy separate buttons for left and right brakes?
@@headers3445 I jhave them set on button 5 and 6 on the base of the joystick. Edit if you go into systems menu you will see wheel Break left and Wheel break right.
LoL! I play DCS and never knew you can walk around 😅
I discovered it day one, when I ejected in VR and made the mistake of looking down.... almost vomited as I approached the ground.... almost vomited again when I nudged the stick and moved forward. Was just starting VR gaming in general and hadn't got my "sea legs" yet. Though I was nowhere near as bad as my mate when he flipped a rally car 6 times at 100mph, bro was whiter than the quest 2 headset XD
It got floaty because more flaps generates more lift
I don’t think I extended my flaps. Someone else said it was ground effect which I think might be true.
@@headers3445 Oh really? The last landing I thought I heard you say full flaps, couldn't hear much my partner was asleep haha. But yeah probably ground effect otherwise
@@GapeGang I said that I forgot about my flaps. I might’ve put them down at that point, but I forgot it was a couple weeks ago when I recorded it.
If you get trackir now your flight sim career can begin
@@speedkiller3026 I have an air mouse that i clip to my hat lmao
@@headers3445 If you have a 1080p webcam you can use OpenTrack with AI Track and get similar results to TrackIR, without the $150 price tag. You don't get eye tracking, but DCS can't use that anyway, and I found it kind of annoying in the games I play that could (Elite and MSFS). DCS will pick it up OpenTrack as the headtracker controls in the bindings menu. I'm not sure how that would compare with the air mouse though, but it's what I use, because I don't like clipping anything onto my headset.
As someone else mentioned, skip the SU-25 and download the community A-4 mod. I'm learning to fly that over in a cold war server and it's a lot of fun.
You need head tracking. You'll get spanked
@@headers3445 If you already have a 1080p webcam you can use OpenTrack and AI Track to get pretty close to TrackIR's functionality for free, avoiding the $150 price tag that TrackIR charges. I borrowed one from my boss and comparing the two it was close enough to not buy the TrackIR. I'm not sure if that would do better than the air mouse, but if you already have a webcam there's really nothing to lose but the time to tinker with it. Also agree with other posters here, the A-4 mod is really nice, I'm somewhat new to DCS as well and I'm flying it around in Enigma's Cold War server.
@@headers3445 all the casuals use headtracking and utilise Supermans zoom vision super power.... real men fly in VR :P
Left alt and C changes from look to click mode with the mouse. I have mine set up so that i can press a vutton on the side of the mouse to switch between them.
as a dcs veteran just want to tell you good luck.......
Be kind to yourself... Get a Track IR5 and el cheapo creapo rudder pedals, rocking the tips of the pedals are the brakes and you can set sensitivity in axis settings... except the spitfire, and that ones brakes and steering are a real treat... Those things even work in WT,
I hope you can do a BF-109 or an F-16 y'know easy stuff XD
i'd pay to see him groundloop in a 109 :'D
i have a zero zoom+center view button on my throttle, something like that would would help with the re_centering of view issues, tho not the only solution. Youc an also search the keybinds list and filter for specific commands
Sounds like a brilliant idea
Never played warthunder, it looked too goofy. Took off and landed a warmed up p51 1st try but I fly IL-2 regularly. I'm working on the Huey right now in DCS. That will break your brain. Yes get a head tracker....
go get a VR headset like the quest 3. can't wait to see the SU25 vids don't forget to do training missions
@@rocketcityastro which headset do i buy? There are so many options and I don’t wanna buy one and didn’t realize it is not compatible.
Landing at faster speeds than jets…not so healthy.
Just a heads up, you want to put the wheels on the ground BELOW stall speed.
You look like you know what you are talking about
Definitely get cold war stuff, most fun
lol I knew this would be entertaining.
Part3, I bought a Warthog HOTAS!
Well I started with spitfire lol that thing is handful on the ground and in the air then I jump in to p51 and I was like pro lol difference in handling is day and night.
the irony being the Mustang is like a tamed ranch horse and the Spitfire is like a bucking Stallion that won't break XD
(for those that don't know: A Mustang is a "feral" free-roaming horse)
Gramp's will never be the wiser 🤣😂🤣
If you have the auto rudder de selected in the tf-51 options menu then your rudder game is budder. But if you haven't give that a go 😉
I am sorry. Because some censoring youtube feature I am not able to post you advices.
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you really know how to fly and land this thing but the camera and the control ruined it all
All the free stuff with weapons is low fidelity.
Flaming cliffs pack is all low.
All the good shit is $$$
You should really try Marianas free map, it's way more detailed ;)
keep going. i hope to see more DCS content from you
trialing the channel map rn, holy cow is it nicely done.
I don’t understand
@@headers3445 i am currently perusing the channel map for a 14 day trial and am very impressed with how much more detailed it is than marianas, caucasus, persian gulf or syria maps.
@@andrewjackson673 yes they are great
@@andrewjackson673 wait, channel or Normandy 2.0? Flying through the Eiffel in VR is a must for every aircraft game enthusiast XD
@@SA80TAGE presently the channel, will trial normandy next when this trial expires
Would love to fly with u :)
so theres a few things i can list for help you flying the p51... theres a way to brake one of the front wheels if im not mistaking is LSHIFT+W or something, and if you have a webcam try using ai track and opentrack, this two things record your face and replies on the game making you turn the camera without using a mouse, btw read the stupid manual of the plane... is not that long, love your vids 🤓
and the other models the ppl are talking about aint free... is around 60 bucks 🤓🤓
It isn't easy, is it? I got over a thousand kills in a day in WT, before I stopped playing any and all Russian games. Just recently got the F/A-18 airborne, still am a ways from shooting anything, even AI, down. It's a real learning curve, but i like to learn, and bonus, Putin doesn't get a single kopek. Watch the cockpit tutorials over and over, then fly the mishes where you start in the air, and go around the cockpit, clicking everything, until you get the hang of it. It's Okay to crash, until you learn it, durn it.
bro i'm pretty sure DCS devs are russian too, as is IL-2^^
if you want a decent plane sim theres like no way around it :
You land way too fast. Use flaps to slow down during the aproach. You can also slowdown with rudder by making the plane go sideways for a while.
i think he uses keys for rudder, so thats no bueno :D
War Thunder = checkers
DCS = Chess
Enjoy
UH-1 next
The ground handling of the ww2 planes is terrible and not realistic. I have 2000 hours in tail wheel and I have a hard time.
You actually have 2000 Hours in actual WW-2 Planes for real? Remember those aren't Cessna's or Pub's but high powered Racehorses with way too much power and way too small wings. Quite a difference from GA planes. Not to mention that the Me-109 killed more Piots in Training than in Combat should give you a hint how hard it was. And if you talk about the IL-2 Series then go back to your room, your classroom is down the stairs with the smaller chairs. Just saying - "Trimonaslider" should shut you up then.
hey if u have a web cam there is a free software called ai track and open track that u can use as head tracking
@@user-yb5ty3dg2q i could invest but i don’t have one
trust it’s worth it’s what i use for dcs
also hurry up n make part 3 this was the most i enjoyed a dcs vid in a while
Trial the F18 for 2 weeks and reach out to me and I’ll “make a man out of you” lol
Try the A-4E mod. It’s free and it is amazing.
@@USMCBEANS oooo I’ll look into that
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@headers3445 its worth the download. Also if you want to try the UH-60L, its a free mod (and has a weapons mod)
GET OUT🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣💥
At 9:11
If you ever want any tips or just someone to fly with I have over 2k hours on dcs and would be more than happy to help
LAlt C
do yourself a favor and get track ir
Who plays warthunder is a noob
Dude, that was funny AF. Keep up the stoopidity. I mean, good luck with the learning process!
Another tip: You can bind your individual brakes to axis, if you had rudder pedals with toe brakes. If you don't, you could use a controller with it's triggers so your brakes aren't either 0% or 100%. It'll make braking a lot easier on landing so you don't smash your prop on the ground.
You know the name of the keybind? I’ve searched a total of probably an hour through all the tabs(general, p-51, etc)
@@headers3445 Click the menu to the right of that, there should be one that includes the word "axis" in it. It will include everything that can be bound to an axis rather than a button.
These vids had me cracking up. If you really want some help in DCS there are a few discords links i could send you with really helpful people. If you want to try the A10CII or F16 I could help get you going.
What about a notification when the F-16 or F-18 goes on sale?
@headers3445 dcs has sales on their website all the time. I think the summer sale is going on now but I'm not sure what what is actually on sale
@@ArmChairPilot. bet
You may be able to rebind your mouse with a modifier key to look around. Example: You press a side mouse button and move your mouse to look around. If you're willing to spend the money, better options are either to get a head tracker just to look around, or fly in VR.
I have to look at my keyboard too much for vr lol. It sounds so much fun though. I clip an airmouse to my hat for wt sim. It works pretty well
@@headers3445 flight sims in VR truly are something else... (wt included), but very expensive and demanding on the body (i cant do it for very long), headtracking is definitely more user friendly.
i see you move the throttle with your mouse? doesnt your joystick have a slider at the base? should make things vastly more ergonomic. if its the logi xtreme 3d pro (from the pic you showed) it should also be twistable (for the rudder)