Definitely interesting. It makes more sense to me for this joint to be used in timber framing or when ordering longer material is not possible or feasible. Here in the states, we would order engineered lumber in the length we need, so that the member can be one length. Also, when hand framing rafters with a ridge board, the ridge is actually structural, IF there are no collar ties to keep the walls at the eaves from spreading.
Thank you for your comment. You are right a scarf joint is not a structural joint so for example if I was framing out floor and the joists were too short, I would have to either use a steel to break up the overall span of the floor or use a glulam beam ie engineered beams. In this case the rafters are picking up the ridge and I also used collar ties and wind bracing to stop any movement.
At 4:00 how do you determine what is the distance of the edge of the line to the start point diagonal line. Is equal, maybe, to the thickness of the board? Thanks a lot. I got the answer at 5:28. Τhe mark at the point of intersection of the beginning of the diagonal line and the inner mark.
If You Tubers are filming these types of technics they should use a narrow point Sharpie as we can't see the lines they draw. It is now like drawing an a chalk border in school with your finger.
It is difficult to see the lines because I’m using a 6h pencil. Also I don’t have a camera many to help get the close up shots I need. However you can see the end result. 😉
Ok - it is purely a mechanical joint that interlocks to hold it together. The question is why don't you put construction adhesive in the joint then put at least 2 cross dowels (one on each side of the wedge) to keep it together. They can be full wood dowels or big full length screws - something to keep them together. Everyone (including you) know that wood will continue to dry and shrink and the joint will loosen up because there is nothing to keep it together (see above to prevent this). The wedge will do the same.
Please edit your videos to speed up the process. Also your wearing ear protection but not eye protection. You can still build minus hearing but really hard minus eyesight.
Any reason behind this? Carpenters have used these joints for generations. When installed correctly and where appropriate there’s nothing wrong with the joint. You should however never use this joint on floor joists.
@@claytoncarpentry618 mainly because it's not as strong as a board that was never cut. Wood expands and contracts and if it does this could come apart. The reason it shouldn't be used on floor joists is because it isn't as strong.
They're not used on joists. He said in the beginning its only used where the board is picked up by others. This technique is hundreds of years old and almost all centuries old buildings will have one or more of them in it.
@@bushratbeachbum I understand that but the REASON why they aren't used on joists is the same reason it shouldn't be used on roofs...it's not as strong.
@@realtyrocks1969 see my comment above and the explanation given by the person making the splice. If you had experience in woodwork you would understand where it's safe to use and where it isn't.
hammer on your left side...you a switch hitter? good presentation mate. well done
Some people say 3x the width , some people say 5x the width.
We go 4x just to piss everyone off.
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Definitely interesting. It makes more sense to me for this joint to be used in timber framing or when ordering longer material is not possible or feasible. Here in the states, we would order engineered lumber in the length we need, so that the member can be one length.
Also, when hand framing rafters with a ridge board, the ridge is actually structural, IF there are no collar ties to keep the walls at the eaves from spreading.
Thank you for your comment. You are right a scarf joint is not a structural joint so for example if I was framing out floor and the joists were too short, I would have to either use a steel to break up the overall span of the floor or use a glulam beam ie engineered beams. In this case the rafters are picking up the ridge and I also used collar ties and wind bracing to stop any movement.
Might want to consider using safety glasses
There are other scarf joints arent there? Are there any that work well under compression?
Great job mate
Cheers matey! 👍🏻
At 4:00 how do you determine what is the distance of the edge of the line to the start point diagonal line. Is equal, maybe, to the thickness of the board? Thanks a lot. I got the answer at 5:28. Τhe mark at the point of intersection of the beginning of the diagonal line and the inner mark.
Outstanding Sir, 👍🔨🇮🇪
Thanks matey! 👍🏻
I tried my first one today, very rough, after watching yours, I want to go again :) thanks!!
If You Tubers are filming these types of technics they should use a narrow point Sharpie as we can't see the lines they draw. It is now like drawing an a chalk border in school with your finger.
It is difficult to see the lines because I’m using a 6h pencil. Also I don’t have a camera many to help get the close up shots I need. However you can see the end result. 😉
Thank you video,+1 subscribe👍
Talkative
How do you find the DeWalt flexvolt circ saw?
Love it mate 👍🏻 I’ve constructed four large European Oak balconies using the dewalt and I couldn’t fault it.
What model is the saw please? Thanks
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Cheers matey! 👍🏻
You don't lag bolt them together from top to bottom?
You do?
Are those beats? 😂
Good stuf👍
Thank you 🙏
Ok - it is purely a mechanical joint that interlocks to hold it together.
The question is why don't you put construction adhesive in the joint then put at least 2 cross dowels (one on each side of the wedge) to keep it together.
They can be full wood dowels or big full length screws - something to keep them together.
Everyone (including you) know that wood will continue to dry and shrink and the joint will loosen up because there is nothing to keep it together (see above to prevent this). The wedge will do the same.
Hoped he would have shown it put together. There has to be a better video than this.
A scarf joint should be a 1:10 ratio
Please edit your videos to speed up the process. Also your wearing ear protection but not eye protection. You can still build minus hearing but really hard minus eyesight.
Get a blade with a higher tooth count for your circular saw and you won’t have to use the handsaw so much to smooth it out.
That and have a sharp chisel at the ready, 👍🔨🇮🇪
The hand saw was taking out the radius left by the circular blade, not smoothing.
How to cut “Half a Scarf joint”
No assembly
Very disappointing 👎🏻
🤔 maybe I’m daft but you can see the full joint at the end of the video.
@@claytoncarpentry618 no you’re not daft but would be nice to see it assembled don’t you think 🤔❤️
I would not buy a house that used this technique on a load baring roof or floor joist.
Any reason behind this? Carpenters have used these joints for generations. When installed correctly and where appropriate there’s nothing wrong with the joint. You should however never use this joint on floor joists.
@@claytoncarpentry618 mainly because it's not as strong as a board that was never cut. Wood expands and contracts and if it does this could come apart. The reason it shouldn't be used on floor joists is because it isn't as strong.
They're not used on joists. He said in the beginning its only used where the board is picked up by others.
This technique is hundreds of years old and almost all centuries old buildings will have one or more of them in it.
@@bushratbeachbum I understand that but the REASON why they aren't used on joists is the same reason it shouldn't be used on roofs...it's not as strong.
@@realtyrocks1969 see my comment above and the explanation given by the person making the splice.
If you had experience in woodwork you would understand where it's safe to use and where it isn't.
Hopefully there is a better instructor than this one ..I have no idea what lines he was drawing