The Storm Took New Roof In Less Than A Minute?
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- Опубликовано: 11 фев 2022
- Roger follows Dan on another roof construction project. This one didn't exactly go to plan.
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I could watch craftsman like this all day long. One learns so much.
I absolutely love watching the confidence they have in sawing & chopping those very expensive lengths of timber!
I check my measurements 5 times and still get it wrong! 😂😂🤣
Said it before, I could watch Dan pitching roofs all day! Love all the little techniques he uses to manage the large timbers. Looking forward to having a go building my roof in a week or two using Dan’s square 😁
Thanks Big Sugs.
Watching from southpacific country Papua new Guinea. I am a self taught handyman...and just by watching the Englishman, Maaannnn!!!! I admire and appreciate and will find his invention of Ultimate square ...it is just absolutely perfect and almost 4 or 5 in 1tool kitt gadget! Protractor, ruler, tapemeasure,saw guide ,bevel slider....he masters his palm and phalanges !!! Skilled Builder' justifies. God bless you brother. We called such caliber in my team of duty handyman CHIEF OF CHIEFS! you deserve it
Always a pleasure to watch is Dan.
Quality work and top bloke.
Thanks Gerry. 🙏🏼
I’m from New Zealand and a broken down old builder. I built similar alterations over the years and it was great to see builders that knew what there were doing and all working together. Even due to the storm and (oh sh-t happen with the roof blown down) it was no blame game and just let’s get it sorted. Great job and well done. Colin Barnden
Love the speed of the roofing, but the editing is on point especially the fading in and out of the radio station, just like any UK building site. Top Marks.
Glad you liked it!
Dan, you are some joiner. An absolute treat to watch. Thank you.
🙌🏻🙏
absolute carpentry Pron! I'm a carpenter myself but don't touch much roofing alone. great to see
Lovely Job Dan, I bet your heart sank when you got that text.
Looking forward to the follow up video Rodger
Thanks 👍
Thanks Mark, it wasn’t the best text I’ve ever received..
all good now.
A good scarf joint is a thing of great beauty! A bad one is firewood. 😉
I quit framing full time about 25 years ago millwork and cabinets mostly now but I really enjoyed just hearing the tapping of the pieces into place and seeing the way you presented it Roger.👍🏻
Glad you enjoyed it!
A real master of the craft, like others could watch Dan all day.
Thanks Mark.
Great vid Roger. Always enjoy watching Dan. Proper tradesman.
Love that scarf joint. Been around since the 13th century, when something works...
I watch this and trades working and wish every one worked with the same professional attitude.
And the skill!
great video always love to see dan cutting roofs in
Bloody gutted for you Dan 😟 that must have been some storm 🌪🌪🌪.
Love how those scarf joints work and it’s a shame one got destroyed .
Always a pleasure to watch your work buddy 🤜🏻🤛🏻🧱👍🏼
It certainly was windy..
thanks for watching chaps.. 🙏🏼
See you soon.. 😉
@@Ultimate-roofing-square. . 🌪😳.
Looking forward to it 🤜🏽🤛🏽🧱👍🏽
As always great to see you back Dan and I hope you and Roger will be doing more videos now SkBr have lost James and Ian. What I like about you is watching how a site carpenter with your experience gets round problems using simple battens like your rabbit ears and props. It took a while to see why you use the skill saw for at 10.55 on the video, but it was the plate washer my guess. How many scarf joints was there and how did manage to keep them all straight all the way ? Sorry Gilbert had no respect for your work but we do. 👍👍👍
There was 3 joints in the ridge.
Thanks for your great comments Kevin. 🙏🏼
That's a nice Cut Roof right there
A Master at work!
Always amazes me that a lot of people don’t know how much work goes into a roof especially the dormer’s ,and it’s hard working everything is heavy,made a great job of that,👍
A roof is extremely tricky......you're so right: many people do not appreciate the intricacies of roof construction.
Awesome job guys .............
Absolute pleasure to watch a master work. Scarf joints always a favorite.
Thanks Robert. Scarf joints are always nice when they go together.
Lovely job, and a cracking video! The time lapse was nice 👍🏻
Thanks Ian. 🙏🏼
It’s like a big piece of fine furniture - excellent work.
What a treat, watching a skilled tradie work. Thanks for the video.
Glad you enjoyed it
I don't get to pitch big hand cut roofs too often maybe 2 per year, best part of the job. Don't tell the clients but I'd do it for free...
It’s certainly nice to admire a cut roof. Then the tiler covers it up..
@@Ultimate-roofing-square. can't beat a scarf joint, be nice to get praised for it rather than swinging a door. Like you say, its never seen by the clients
@@JamieVauxnut1 exactly, they don’t usually see what goes on.
This roof the owner had a good look, and helped me get the ridge up. Great for him to get involved.
Fantastic. I've got a miniature version of that roof to do in 9x2. Cathedral ceiling. Watching this inspires my confidence.
Amazing work as always Dan.
Another fantastic job from Dan and far play to him that the mishap wasn't edited out, things go wrong even too the most experienced tradesperson despite what some may say!
You are so right, Daniel said "Leave it in, people might avoid the same mistake" that shows class. Everyone makes mistakes except maybe ........Boris.
Top bloke even more respect to him 👍🏻
beautiful joints across the top, lovely :)
Really agood to see the skills you have
Love watching these. Shows how at ease he is with the work, having to admit it blew over and staying calm! I would have been a nervous wreck!!! Few nice new tools there? Will he go back to gas makita/paslode nailer? Great video thank you 🙏
Hi Henry,
I’ve just bought a paslode.. much lighter.
Thanks for watching. 🙌🏻
Big up the boys listening to radio 6 an all. Top work, love to see this craftsmanship
It’s the only radio station. Well spotted. 🙌🏻
Thanks.
I'm always telling my students "You can't have too many clamps."
Dan is the man
Thanks 🙏
Great video,Dan is a top tradesman,would like to see a video of Dan explaining scarfjoint and cutting one.
Robin Clevett has a video about it on his channel.
The only thing better than Dan would be having James bobbing around as a team!
Yes, we have those videos on our channel with James, Ian and Daniel working together.
There’s a lot to gleam off these videos if you pay attention. ‘How to cut a rafter’ videos are great, must have skills, but this shows the little tips and tricks on how to get the rafters in place with the ridge. How to position heavy lengths on timber safely key and get them accurate. Great content as usual.
Hi David
You are right, we thought the longer video was worth the watch for those kind of tips. Dan works mostly on his own and manages to achieve a lot by brain power.
16:45 So satisfying to see the nail compress that gap.
Crackin' vid, always a joy to watch Dan cast his magic.
Many thanks. 🙏
Nice work with the scarf joint .
Lovely and fantastic work
Regards
Faruk
Top lad Dan great to watch as always 👍👍
Thanks Brian. 👊🏻
That is seriously awesome skills. I am always amazed by proper craftsmen making jobs like this look easy. It isnt. If a roof could be pretty this is it.
Hi Roger, nothing to do with roofs but you are often asking us for suggestions and here's a Plumbing thing I could use more on the ground info on.
It's Pressure gauges to measure water pressure.
Weir cups I get, all good.
But pressure gauges seem to just come with fittings that expect everyone to have a Hose Union Bib tap in their gardens and lots of people don't.
I think possibly you can connect it where the shower hose fits to a fitting, if there is one, or a washing machine tap likewise. But that involves messing around with the washing machine and I know mine gets upset about that sort of thing.
What sort of fitting or adapter could you use just to fit it to a standard tap?
A little video on this would be very handy.
Cheers!
Nice job
Dan....you make it look easy, I really like the rabbit ears! Great stuff...let's see more!
Thanks Lombard. Actually the rabbits ears were Rogers idea after I was using a cramp after the ridge was slide in. Made it much easier this way.
Nice roof 👌 you either got or you don't, and he's got it good job mate.
Dan is a master!
Masterful work 👍🇧🇧
Nice hand cut roof Dan 🤟☘️🇮🇪👏👏
Makita cut roof you mean, handsaw just fo show 🤣
Dan is the man 👌
Thanks Paul. 🙏
Great vid Roger. I get the RC wall is designed to stop the spread but you are still relying on skew nails to restrain the rafters to the plate on what looks like a fairly big roof
coops 66
Well spotted you are so right.
According to the drawing the rafters all need truss clips to secure them to the plate and that is one of those jobs where a positive placement nailer makes quick work of it. The dormers will also be secured to the plate with long ForgeFast construction screws
@@SkillBuilder thanks for the response
I’m trying to watch this video in peace, but my dog keeps saying roof 🐕
That is some bad luck. Great to see you not letting it get you two down
I have no need to build that ridge jointery magic, but I am going to find a reason for sure.
Dan the man
Still think its the biggest skill on house building, well done guys
The biggest skill? You should see the cameraman
Wow, that’s a big roof! Is it apartments? Sorry you had to pitch it twice Dan! Fantastic work as always, you couldn’t get the fit on those dormers any tighter.
Roger / Dan…. Do you think it would have been more likely to stay up with a full set of rafters installed… or would the additional wood surface area have just caught the wind more?
That ridge timber looks like it broke where you might expect, on two close central knots. Do you think that C24 board was a bit of a wrong’un? I’ve had some ropey stuff since the timber “shortage”.
Amateur Hour
That is one house but, as you say, it is big. Dan and I discussed the wind load and I think the more rafters you have the more wind load. There will be more weight but I would spend 10 minutes nailing some diagonal brace across it.
Great video and hope you do more of Dan and his team. Two temporary braces from the middle of the ridge down to floor of each gable would keep it secure whilst constructed (easy to say with hindsight) Interesting to see what bracing the final roof has and or provided by the boarding. Ring beam concrete wall is interesting to get your head round. Is the upper floor that you were standing on also concrete? (Or what ties the walls together kin the middle of the building. Many thanks again for great video.
Hi John
That upper floor is concrete and it is the rebar in that floor that holds the walls together. I thought about what I said about the ring beam and the full length opening at the back breaks the ring beam so the floor is an essential part of the structure. I see so many steel ridge beams these days that it is suprising to see this one in a single timber. The double rafters on the dormers and matched on the opposite side.
@@SkillBuilder Thanks for confirming Roger the reinforcing in the floor. Look forward to more video with Dan.
@@johncoppock3823 thanks. Hopefully more soon. 🙏🏼
Top dog real pro keep it up
hey roger, any advice on if you need architects or draftsmen for extentions. love the channel. the best.
He had to take it down as he realized he was at the wrong address!!:)
😂👊🏻
I would guess rather than ring beam action preventing rafter spread, the wall is cantilevering up past the floor, with the floor joists tying the opposing walls together.
Tidy work by Dan as always, it's a joy to watch his efficiency.
Thanks.
As I understand it the doubled/trippled rafters at the sides of a dormer aren't really to hold the weight of the dormer, they're there to brace against the weight of the other side of the roof that would normally be held by the rafters you've "removed". The forces should be as balanced as possible, unless you're using a steel ridge beam.
And once again I think about my woodworking skills and quickly forget about them....
Is that an add on adaptor for the makita skill saw for the festool rail?
Hi Ryan, no the 36 v Makita sits on guide rails very nice. The festool guide rail was 1400, I cut it down to 900/500 and made the saw guide.
Nasty engineering, big ridge beam and hang the roof from the top!
A ridge beam that long would need very big lorry and a crane. The self weight alone would mean it would have to be huge. This roof is self supporting on the rafters. It has been done like this for over a thousand years. Just look at the roof on The Great Hall at Westminster where the Queen is currently resting. It is a work of art with not a steel in sight
Very good. Always makes it look easy. And no site radio, can't stand site radios especially when you're the neighbour. Not everyone wants to be forced to listen to a site radio all day.
Site or shite? Some of that awful music!
@@nickhickson8738 Site. As in "work site"
Site radios are only ever tuned to shite sites!
And they are always "off-station".... it's always just annoying the rest of the world! Stop IT!
Enjoy watching Dan, does it work out cheaper with a cut roof like this compared to buying ready made trusses?
They want the roof space to live in so a trussed roof would not work
Dan was roofless!
I think the power of the wind an be very hard to visualise. If it was braced up I don't think I would have expected the roof to blow over either. I guess if you add up the area of all the timber faces they catch a reasonable amount of wind.
We provide site specific wind calculations and designs for site hoardings and the forces in some locations can be quite surprising.
I have worked on hoardings in london near high rise office buildings and we was told how the wind gets stronger as it funnelled around them. Fixed to a 3.5 ton jersey block they stayed up.
What’s that black wire coming out the back of the circular saw?
This guys a top Chippie working with big timbers like this and doing that ridge alone it takes years of knowledge to do it and do it safely
No seriously it’s a pleasure to watch a proper trades person at his game like u we all know on site there’s always problems and it’s always different from job to job it’s not like working in a shop where uve got all the machines and everything is laid on and perfect it’s different on site and uve got to adapt to the circumstances u encounter and that’s where the years of doing it come to a fore it’s great to c it done proper and people that ain’t in the game don’t realise the knowledge and know how u need to to have to produce a traditional pitched roof trusses have there place but they’ve taken away the craftsmanship from pitching a traditional roof hopefully ur gonna pass ur knowledge on to younger Chippies coming in to the game it would b a crime not to this knowledge can’t b lost with u hanging up the eastwing
@@kendodd8734 thanks for the great comments.
Iv done so many jobs similar to this and they are full of steels. Overkill.
Yes it is interesting to see that the whole thing is on timber with no steel ridge. I think the reinforced walls are the reason.
Where can i get the hammer holder at 10:52?
Hi Wayne, my hammer holder is a occidental one, think it’s called 5 in 1.
I bought mine from TF Tools but I think you can get it from Amazon too.
I couldn't see a council worker doing the same top work'
Hi Dan, great work there. What's that pencil you're using please?
Tracer pencil
Hi Luke, it’s a bigger pica one. Similar to tracers. It has a rectangular shaped lead, and so far it’s lasted a year or so. Thanks.
@@Ultimate-roofing-square. Great Dan thanks, I'll invest in one. 👍🏻
@@LeeTillbury I think I bought it from TF Tools, or Amazon. 😉
@@Ultimate-roofing-square. Found one on eBay, £12.49. Cheers Daniel🍻
Gutted for Dan but at least it was in relatively early stages. Just gotta do what he does and get on, great job 👏 What a coincidence that ICF were used.
Yes it was good to see the ICF but I really would have liked to film the whole job from the cellar up
@@SkillBuilder If I hear of any ICF Kent/London projects coming I can give you a nudge if you like?
Gut wrenching when work goes over like that, and I had a truss roof blow over on me many years ago as I was just about to get my diagonal bracings on😩Lesson learnt not to put up trusses when its too windy. Great job on the camera Roger and always a pleasure watching Dan working😎
Thank you Del
Thanks Del. Not just me then.. 😬.
Perhaps we should have a new code, if it’s windy , raining or to hot then no roof work..
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@@Ultimate-roofing-square. I wont work in the rain Dan, if you wont😜Jokes aside, I will NOT put trusses up in the wind, and even cancelled a job that a crane had turned up to lift.😬
@@thetallcarpenter I think that’s a wise choice. I put some up a while back in strong winds, bit worrying at times.., Lucky I did have a great lad helping who knew when to hold them and brace them up.
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@@Ultimate-roofing-square. You need a good wingman if you're trusses are gonna take off🤪
There seems to be a lack of 4 & 6 inch spikes growled in good & proper & stitched on the scunt . No wonder the storm had the job down, the weedy Plasplode Brad nails are not really up to the job of fixing large timbers ..They are more for skirts ,archy & panels to save a bit of time .
Actually it was fixed with 120 mm timber lock fixings, which are stronger than any nails.
@@Ultimate-roofing-square. I spotted some rafters & dormer frame timbers being fixed by nail guns & skinny poor quality metric nails . Timber lock fixings ,stud iron plus plates washers,nuts & even coach bolts ,have their place in critical areas . Most of the work can be better secured with proper quality 4 & 6 inch round head spikes ,growled in or stitched on the scunt . A well nailed roof timbers are going nowhere in any storm or hurricane ..
What are the green safety glasses dan is wearing?
They are from tool station, just under a tenner. Think pyramex.
@@Ultimate-roofing-square. thank you
Nice job Dan 👏 bloody storm, solid job now tho, always nice seeing a roof being built from scratch 👌
Thanks Mark. 👍🏻
Great work but I am curious, do you guys not get the least bit worried using circular saws freehanded the way you do that you may someday get kickback and remove half your hands?
yes, you always have these things in the back of your mind. I have seen car smashes that I wouldn't want to be in either.
@@SkillBuilder I had a nasty accident with one. I lost focus for a moment as I was rushing to meet boss's deadline and I ended up with a nasty gash across my arm.
I build simple guide fence jigs for most cuts that I do now but I do know not everyone will want to do that. It did scare me a bit, not afraid to admit it
I wish my saw had a seatbelt at the time lol. Thanks for responding to me
What stops the roof from dominoing over without any sort of bracing?
bracing
@@SkillBuilder yes I mean usually with a truss roof you have bracing but a cut roof you don’t tend to see bracing going across. Is it the roof battens that eventually provide the bracing?
Great work. I am curious why a ridge beam wouldn't have been used? The wind blew the roof over because there was insufficient temporary bracing, not good guys! With a ridge beam this wouldn't have happened.
Yeah shit happens, they weren't thinking a big storm would whip up so suddenly. A lesson for the future
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Witchcraft as ever, can’t someone get Dan some sponsors if he’s going to be in the videos? I’m sure a couple of 40v skill saws would be handy up on the roofs rather than the corded ones.
That sounds good to me.
Thanks for watching.
Top quality work, I just feel sorry for whoever footing the bill for all that unnecessary extra timber with current prices, structural engineer over spec no doubt
From the vid I got the impression it was all salvaged apart from the scarf he had to recut and the broken bit he showed.
@@marquisdemoo1792 I ment the triple rafters everywhere and over sized timbers, a bomb proof roof !
@@Ben-in6qh Sorry yes, didn't read your comment properly, although isn't that needed if you are going to use the loft as you cannot put timbers across?
@@Ben-in6qh how can you say they a tree oversized? Think about the loadings it will need to take from, deadload of the roof coverings as well as supporting its own weight, live loads from wind and people needing access for maintenance and the possibility of snow loads.
@@richardaskham2154 look at a roof built 60 years ago, loads less timber, still standing
is america new house still mainly use wood..? why not use steel and concrete for main structure, way stronger and safer when storm hit.
I like the power of the Milwaukee framing nailer, but not the price here in the USA its $350 range...
That price is comparable with a Paslode and you save on gas. If they could knock a couple of kilos off the weight they would be able to sell it for $500
@@SkillBuilder I'm not ready to spend that kind of money yet, already have two paslode air nailers now.
What is this joint name please?
scarf joint
20:28 for those that can't wait for the suspense. The explanation of why he had to build it twice.
Thanks mate, 3 days filming and you want everyone to skip to the end
@@SkillBuilder 😂todays instant gratification society for ya
@@SkillBuilder Nah. Watching Dan at work is worth it!!
Thanks MrHunterseeker
@@gavincollins9376 thanks for the great support. 🙏
7:54 I hope dan sold a couple after that
What kinda square was that?!
The Ultimate Roofing Square
Details are in the description below the video
1:24, interesting dilemma.
I like Dan proper tradesman, like seeing his work roof's just look so awkward to me, I suppose like everything the more you do the better you get and the easier it becomes and he makes it look easy!!
It is not that easy but you just have to calm down and take it one step at a time. The worst thing is to rush it
Thanks Pistol Knight.
open structured gable roofs weakest point are the long sides or pitched sides because its parallel bild up. this cant be strenghtend with any bolt at its bottom regardless its strenght. that is why i do sink this case a peace of 1 by 4 on the lower side of the rafter all across the lenght in order to stabilize the whole structure. i do this prior installating the rafters. it acquires a bit of math, but it worth the end.
Anyways, great job Dan, very practical and efficiant work.
That dudes hair