Not sure why it is leaking, mine does not leak. Never has. I like the sound of the rpm increasing! The sound frequencies produced , even at low volume gave me crappy little subwoofer a good test! Great video, and I have the PA biodiesel supply 60 GPH unit I purchased almost four years ago. Works very well. Just need to replace the pressure gauge and ensure I don't leave oil in it
These types of fuges are bypass centrifuges, it takes many passes because of the small rotor capacity. THEY DO WORK, I can attest to 30K miles of trouble free WMO about 2000 gallons through my dual 55GPH PA Biodiesel supply units. As I feared though, they do leak a little from the brass seal at the top of the rotor. This video confirms my suspicion. Nothing that a multiple pass 8hr run on a 55gal drum with twin centrifuges won't cure though.
On big rigs this wouldn't be the main oil filter, Mack/Volvo engines use 3 regular screw on filters: primary/secondary/bypass, this is used as well but as a crankcase vent filter. Not every manufacturer uses them, mack/Volvo, paccar, newer Detroits. They don't get changed every time, Mack's can go 30,000kms, so every other oil change, not sure on the others
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a spinning "filter" is a bit of a misnomer. A spinning filter is a type of a Centrifuge. (Google that and understand the principle) this type of filter separates stuff based on its specific gravity using multiple G force. (up to 10K times the force of gravity, or more) in the applications here at this level of G force only particulate is left in the "Bowl", this is not spinning long enough fast enough to separate the liquid. I used a "Spinner II" brand on an over the road Big truck for 15years or more. depending on Model, and Pressure it is possible to remove particulate down to 0.007 of a micron (that is the size of particulate in cigarette smoke) the brand i used was www.spinnerii.com/
can you show taking fresh drained crank case oil and the final product? looks like you started with clean oil, it should come out clean, the real thing however...I'd like to see that.
so how do these rotors work? the dirt gets trapped inside them or where does it go? How does it extract the clean oil from that spinning area into a separate container without sucking in the dirt and grime ?
duggy788 There's no power to a centrifuge. It's purely mechanical - no electrics. The pump forces oil (or whatever) through tiny holes in the centrifuges base. As this jets out, it makes the centrifuge spin. So the pump is what drives the centrifuge. I hope this helps.
shylildude You've hit the nail on the head there... the water is trapped inside the centrifuge. Turn off the pump and the water fall back into the oil. I always advise folks to place a container beneath the centrifuge just before turning off. That way you can collect the falling water and debris rather than contaminate your oil.
This is a perfect thing for me, but I'm an student and these prices are kind of too much for me... Is there anyway that I can manufacture one by myself? I mean do you know any plans for manufacturing these devices? :)
steffankaizer It's the way centrifuges work. They usually recirculate the content of a container. So here the centrifuge pulls dirty oil from the barrel, spins and cleans in, then returns it to the SAME barrel. It is inefficient which is why folks talk about passes (the number of times the whole content is thought to pass through the centrifuge). Multiple passes are always required. Hope this helps.
Geoff at VegOilCar that cant be right. if it constantly mixes the cleaned oil into the dirty it would literally never be completely clean. for the prize of one empty barrel that can be awoyded. and why even have a bypass valve? the pump could have a pressure switch or a rpm monitor thing thats all better than doing the same oil over and over again. i thought it would be one of the great advantages of a centrifuge to clean with only one pass. the water is pushed against the inner walls with the rest of the havier stuff and then it runs back out when you turn it of? it sounds just wrong. i almost dont believe that it would be the solution to turn it upside down, because it sounds too simple but it could be a start. thanks for respond its nice to see the yt comunity is still alive.
+steffankaizer the pressure he is using is significantly less than the real operating pressures, I am guessing. when working properly the inside of the cover would fill with the filtered participates
They're not able to filter the tiniest particles. Some 5 um diameter particles accumulate erode the engine and that's why you have to change the oil after some mileage.
On heavy truck diesel engines, this would not be the main oil filter, Volvo/Mack use 3 main oil filters: primary /secondary/bypass, this centrifugal one is also used but as a crankcase vent filter. Not every manufacturer uses them, Mack Volvo, Paccar, newer Detroits use them, I've never seen one on dodge 6.7 cummins or duramax or power stroke, just heavy trucks
+Bob alloo to add to that question, -how often do you need to clean them out? and while i am at it, can you please let me know if washing WVO or converting it in to bio diesel is a must for never motors OM 642 that are on Sprinter's some Jeeps and other Mercedes e320 ml/gl320 gl350
Thanks for the demo! I'm going to put one on my 2015 Duramax
Been around for along time in the heavy equipment machines.
Great invention.
I use to drive a Mack and it had one on it from factory and it did a fine job don’t know who made it .
Not sure why it is leaking, mine does not leak. Never has.
I like the sound of the rpm increasing! The sound frequencies produced , even at low volume gave me crappy little subwoofer a good test!
Great video, and I have the PA biodiesel supply 60 GPH unit I purchased almost four years ago. Works very well. Just need to replace the pressure gauge and ensure I don't leave oil in it
Project23D cause the see through is a plastic bottle dum dum
@@shakiepete7782 I think it's plastic and he meant "if it breaks up and flies up in the air"
Mtz (Belarus) tractors have always used centrifugal oil filters they are very efficient and cost effective
+Tony Gifford that is so cool, I know that tractor, but didn't know this! do you know specs for it? and what model it comes on?
would be nice to see demo with dirty oil using the plastic bottle
I know they work on Big Rigs but this is the first one I've seen that was this small, well done.
That's a new look on showing how a centrifuge works, I wished I thought of that. :-)
What is the real set up like, is there a power source, a pump and what pressure?
We have more videos on our channel which cover the set up and operation.
Regards,
PA Biodiesel Supply
Great stuff so what are you going to do about that leak at the bottom
These types of fuges are bypass centrifuges, it takes many passes because of the small rotor capacity. THEY DO WORK, I can attest to 30K miles of trouble free WMO about 2000 gallons through my dual 55GPH PA Biodiesel supply units. As I feared though, they do leak a little from the brass seal at the top of the rotor. This video confirms my suspicion. Nothing that a multiple pass 8hr run on a 55gal drum with twin centrifuges won't cure though.
Can I mix veggies oil motor oil trans fluid brake fluid use that?
On big rigs this wouldn't be the main oil filter, Mack/Volvo engines use 3 regular screw on filters: primary/secondary/bypass, this is used as well but as a crankcase vent filter. Not every manufacturer uses them, mack/Volvo, paccar, newer Detroits. They don't get changed every time, Mack's can go 30,000kms, so every other oil change, not sure on the others
Very cool!!
Looks like the same cetrifuge filter used on the early e7 mack engines
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a spinning "filter" is a bit of a misnomer. A spinning filter is a type of a Centrifuge. (Google that and understand the principle) this type of filter separates stuff based on its specific gravity using multiple G force. (up to 10K times the force of gravity, or more) in the applications here at this level of G force only particulate is left in the "Bowl", this is not spinning long enough fast enough to separate the liquid. I used a "Spinner II" brand on an over the road Big truck for 15years or more. depending on Model, and Pressure it is possible to remove particulate down to 0.007 of a micron (that is the size of particulate in cigarette smoke)
the brand i used was www.spinnerii.com/
can you show taking fresh drained crank case oil and the final product? looks like you started with clean oil, it should come out clean, the real thing however...I'd like to see that.
Yes yes I'm thinking the same thing this looks like clean oil and clean oil out
Oil drops into the top? And air is blasted in or what?
It does seperate the water right, or would it still need to be boiled out?
I want to put one on my 92 dodge Cummins. Do you have a suggestion for what centrifuge I should buy and from whom?
so how do these rotors work? the dirt gets trapped inside them or where does it go? How does it extract the clean oil from that spinning area into a separate container without sucking in the dirt and grime ?
The dirt gets pinned to the inside of the rotor by centrifugal force. They need to be taken apart and cleaned out periodically.
Just curious so the inlet line is simply pressurized oil? Or do you use air and if you use air does it share the same port as the oil
The oil is pumped in
Guys can you recycle used motor oil on this centrifuge?
And can you use that recycled oil back to the engine? thanks in advance.
how do I build one? how can I scale it up to produce 300 gallons in a day or less??
What are you using to pump the oil to the unit
A gear pump. But any pump that can pump to 90-100 psi would work.
So this is running on pressurized gear pump oil, not compressed air right?
It's running on the WVO itself.
I imagine it removes water very quickly because water is so mich heavier than oil
hey, does it remove water?
Man I build a centrifuge and I got a pump putting out 80psi and the centrifuge is barely spinning. Don’t know what to do.
Does this run on air pressure? Or hydraulic pressure?
Excess Engine oil pressure
do you need an oil pump to drive this ?.
duggy788 There's no power to a centrifuge. It's purely mechanical - no electrics. The pump forces oil (or whatever) through tiny holes in the centrifuges base. As this jets out, it makes the centrifuge spin. So the pump is what drives the centrifuge. I hope this helps.
where does the water settle?
shylildude You've hit the nail on the head there... the water is trapped inside the centrifuge. Turn off the pump and the water fall back into the oil. I always advise folks to place a container beneath the centrifuge just before turning off. That way you can collect the falling water and debris rather than contaminate your oil.
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best luck
1:07 why does it leak so much?
because its a plastic sodapop bottle that was cut to fit over the base of the oil centrifuge so you can see it operate, it didnt have a good seal
This is a perfect thing for me, but I'm an student and these prices are kind of too much for me... Is there anyway that I can manufacture one by myself? I mean do you know any plans for manufacturing these devices? :)
Can this filter oil on a car or big rig
MTZ Belarus uses centrifugal filters in their tractors.
www.spinnerii.com/
why is it upside down? with the oil coming out at the bottom it drains the sudd everytime it stops spinning lol.
steffankaizer It's the way centrifuges work. They usually recirculate the content of a container. So here the centrifuge pulls dirty oil from the barrel, spins and cleans in, then returns it to the SAME barrel. It is inefficient which is why folks talk about passes (the number of times the whole content is thought to pass through the centrifuge). Multiple passes are always required. Hope this helps.
Geoff at VegOilCar that cant be right. if it constantly mixes the cleaned oil into the dirty it would literally never be completely clean. for the prize of one empty barrel that can be awoyded. and why even have a bypass valve? the pump could have a pressure switch or a rpm monitor thing thats all better than doing the same oil over and over again. i thought it would be one of the great advantages of a centrifuge to clean with only one pass. the water is pushed against the inner walls with the rest of the havier stuff and then it runs back out when you turn it of? it sounds just wrong. i almost dont believe that it would be the solution to turn it upside down, because it sounds too simple but it could be a start. thanks for respond its nice to see the yt comunity is still alive.
+steffankaizer the pressure he is using is significantly less than the real operating pressures, I am guessing. when working properly the inside of the cover would fill with the filtered participates
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Why would anyone need this? Engines have oil filters, right?
They're not able to filter the tiniest particles. Some 5 um diameter particles accumulate erode the engine and that's why you have to change the oil after some mileage.
On heavy truck diesel engines, this would not be the main oil filter, Volvo/Mack use 3 main oil filters: primary /secondary/bypass, this centrifugal one is also used but as a crankcase vent filter. Not every manufacturer uses them, Mack Volvo, Paccar, newer Detroits use them, I've never seen one on dodge 6.7 cummins or duramax or power stroke, just heavy trucks
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This is not impressive I want to see the dirty oil going in and the clean oil and dirty oil coming out
This video made me nervous, especially with how close the camera person was. Where do the particulates end up?
+Bob alloo to add to that question, -how often do you need to clean them out? and while i am at it, can you please let me know if washing WVO or converting it in to bio diesel is a must for never motors OM 642 that are on Sprinter's some Jeeps and other Mercedes e320 ml/gl320 gl350
periphery of the housing. they need to be taken apart regularly for extraction of particulates
I imagine it removes water very quickly because water is so mich heavier than oil