This is sort of unrelated, but I'm appalled that people genuinely expect Nintendo's next console having graphics considerably better than PS4 when the iPhone 15 Pro, a $1K+ device, can't even match the last gen console (as seen here). Sure, you'll get higher power targets while docked and Nvidia's superior GPU package, but at best it'll be somewhat comparable or slightly better than base PS4 (and below PS4 Pro), but only when docked.
@@leonro One benefit the next switch will have going for it is that it can draw more power, even in handheld mode. From what I can gather online along with some napkin math, the iPhone 15 Pro Max can consume up to around 5 Watts in total (all components) in a game like resident evil. The original Switch consumed up to around 9W in portable mode (again: all components). *IF* the next switch is a larger device, higher power targets might also be possible. Steam deck is around 24-27W after all, though I doubt Nintendo would go that far. The next switch will also have the advantage of having major games be specifically made for it (unlike the iPhone so far) and will support more modern rendering features unlike the PS4. So in short, it's not a straight comparison between these devices. A barebones port of a game from Ps4 might not do so well on a Switch 2, but it's also not entirely unfeasible for there to be new games that look better than a lot of stuff on PS4.
The PS4 in my personal opinion , looks to be a console that makes it harder for the uninitiated to easily see giant strides in graphical enhancements going forward in console power. The same wasnt true for its predecessor
@@Der-Kleine Again, I'm almost certain that the Switch 2 will beat the iPhone, even if the phone's SoC uses a superior process node (3nm TSMC) when compared to even the most optimistic Switch 2 rumours (4nm TSMC). There will be higher power targets and probably a larger battery to support them, plus a few other factors that will help in better optimising software for the platform. It's just that this is the class of hardware the console will be on. I've seen numerous comments on how it'll get close to the Series S, which is simply impossible.
Am I tripping? The difference seems massive. Like you couldn't even make out the grass and moss on the iPhone, it's just puddles and smears of green. The difference between the footage is like comparing a printed photo vs an oil painted rendition of the scene.
@@VariantAEC photo mode isn't exactly a good way to assess footage since it often doesn't resemble actual gameplay image quality. A lot of photo modes even increase graphical fidelity once you enter the mode to ensure that your shots look good. Photo mode is a great tool but not for stuff like this.
@@kadupse hmm I don't know. I mean I know what whats your point, but even on my phone screen it looks terrible. I don't have the direct comparison but I would say that the Games on the Steam Deck look way clearer.
@@BenyaminLorit Both version have photomode... So, I'm a bit lost as why it can't be used to close in on details to see if iPhone shows them at all. Speaking of... you do know the iPhone version is smaller than the PS4 version by several GB, right? Are you confident all that detail will miraculously appear in photomode?
Just recently, I finished playing Death Stranding on a 55" OLED-connected PS5 - I've spent around 100 hours playing. My question is - who on Earth would delve into this game and enjoy playing subsequent quests on a 6-inch screen?? Even on an 11-inch iPad?? You need a SCREEN to feel game like this !
If we had synced save games, I would love to just keep building roads and making random deliveries while traveling. Those parts of the game always felt like a huge waste of time when playing at home (since I'm not a teenager so I have a very limited play time), so it's perfect when you are waiting for your airplane connection and have to waste time anyway.
For anyone with both an iPhone and another compatible platform - buy on your other plaftorm, not your phone. DS was built for those giant, beautiful vistas and feeling of scale. Playing it on a phone must severely limit the impact.
He's being so generous to the phone here lol.. Viewing this on a TV, the differences are very noticeable. But the benefit of the phones being much smaller probably makes these blurry textures and things not as bad.
@@Crashed131963playing a game like Bloons Tower Defence 6 works pretty good and is only slightly less convenient than playing it on a PC. OSRS mobile works really good as well. Some games are genuinely worth playing on a phone, but I have no idea why anyone would want to play a game like Death Stranding on one though.
Am I going crazy? I am seeing low quality, low resolution, blurry image on the iPhone side and much crisper, detailed ps4 version on the right, yet I hear “they look similar, they look comparable”…
He's talking about the assets themselves used in the render, the render resolution is atrocious, the items being render between the 2 (3?) systems are nearly identical.
What Marik said. He does talk the resolution decrease, calling it "huge" and saying the iPhone seemed to average around 400p. For all the other comparisons, he was talking about the actual underlying settings and techniques.
The shading is similar and the rendering techniques are similar. Some of the compromises that are often made when porting down is simplifying the lighting and shading function, cutting down on atmospheric and volumetric shading, removing ambient occlusion, and also cutting down on offscreen buffers such as removing shadow mapping entirely. Of course once you do that, the image won't be recognisable as similar even from a distance regardless of resolution or how sharp or blurry it is or the LOD selection. This is what they have been able to avoid, and given the target is a phone, this is impressive.
You're not crazy. I left a very similar comment before I saw yours. The game doesn't look great on the iPhone, and the comparison shots make it look truly terrible, and the guy (I forget his name at the moment) keeps saying they look similar. Not sure what that was about.
@@ZeusTheIrritable You've got to be a little realistic about how you expect a high end PS4 game port running on a smartphone to look! Very blurry yes but it's still quite an accomplishment.
400p on a 6.7" screen is a higher pixel density than 1080p on a 24" screen and the same as 1440p on a 27" screen. The difference in viewing distance is made up for by the considerably higher pixel density vs. 1080p 24", and 1080p 24" is definitely the most common monitor choice. We are talking about ~110 ppi vs. 90ppi here, and that is if the phone is the 6.7" Pro Max and not the 6.1" regular! The gap gets even bigger there. If 400p on a phone is bad, then you better not be using a 1080p 24" monitor or worse...
The ai upscaling looks awful and is one of my biggest pet peeves about this generation. Majority of developers are using it at too low of an internal resolution and it looks disgusting even compared to 720p games on the switch
Kinda goes without saying. No phone now or for a long time is going to have PS4 level performance, given that the PS4 is GTX 980 equivalent machine. The only real way these kinda games are gonna look decent on such cutdown hardware is with the source code being revisited and changes to the geometry and whatnot. Still, it's interesting to see happen.
@@JamieChorleythe ps4 is absolutely not a gtx 980 equivalent machine, its a lot closer to the hd 7850 bruh (gtx 980 released as a flagship in 2014 mate) but thats still way better than any mobile igpu
I like how they say you can play this with touchscreen controls. Well yeah we CAN do that. We also can play Dark Souls with a Guitar Hero controller or DDR mat but why would anyone want to do that to themselves?
it's really impressive that we can literally run console level games on our Phones, technology has gone a long way we're literally living the future that was predicted 20 years ago
@@markusklein7222 You don't think a low power device with minimal battery & tiny thermal headroom runs the same game (way lower settings sure) than a console that using more than 10X the power?
"about the same"? DF are we looking at the same footage? The grass, details, text on the label, and general blurriness on the iphone is like day and night...
I’ve tried Death Stranding on my M3 Pro 12C/18C MacBook Pro. It runs 120Hz with medium settings, Metal FX quality, 2560x1440. The machine is silent running the game (no fan noise), total system power draw (inc display) averaged ~40W and the display and speakers provided an excellent experience (HDR on the XDR mini LED display is gorgeous, and MacBooks have amazing deep/rich speakers). The quality of life difference between a modern Mac and a PC gaming laptop is insane. Regardless of what you think about Macs, it’s pretty absurd how terrible gaming laptops are in terms of efficiency, heat, noise, weight/size etc., they suck to live with. FWIW, also tried it on an M1 Ultra 20C/48C Mac Studio and it had no trouble running it at 60Hz with everything turned up (at or below 120W)
@@logancollier1705 your comment prompted me try higher settings. If a basic GPU like 780m can manage these settings, then the M3 Pro must be able to do more. Turns out the M3 Pro 18C manages 60fps at 2560x1600 with the very high preset (all options turned up). Thanks!
@@Aaronage1 fr that's the only thing that keeps me away from macs is apple lack of support for gaming on them, like these devices clearly are capable but they just dont
you can change the settings of iphone and ipad version by throwing the cfg file from mac version in to the app folder. (You can do it with a Mac or pc.) I turned off motion blur and increased the resolution for better image quality.
The difference between the 15 pro and the PS4 is substantial, and you are being incredibly generous to the iPhone here. The resolution and performance are noticeably poor, and the LODs are clearly reduced in terms of textures and foliage . Specular details are clearly worse. Those differences are clear, even when watching on a mobile phone.
@@Winston-1984 he is absolutely right, it's a fact that the game looks like soup and runs like a grandma with arthritis compared to a 10 year old console, ollie is obviously downplaying the differences for whatever reason.
A deck isn’t fanless, weights about twice as much, and has half the battery life. It’s also not in your pocket all the time. It’s really a dumb comparison.
The iPhone version looks like Vaseline has been smeared across the screen. It’s a dreadful image. What a peculiar way to ruin an amazing gaming experience.
Digital Foundry should provide Oliver a new MacBook Pro 16” M3 ultra and an iPad Pro for testing this kind of content on the most powerful apple silicon devices !
RUclipsrs when there is 5 pixel difference between ps5 and xbox series X: there is a massive difference in quality and resulotion and performance. RUclipsrs when there is a massive difference in quality, resulotion, and performance on ps5 and nokia 3310: the foliage looks a little bit different.
Playing the game for a bit on my base M1 MacBook Pro I was quite impressed. It basically looked like how I remember the PS4 version looking back in the day, perhaps a bit sharper, at 30fps with default settings. I may tune the game to hit 60fps but I was quite happy with my fans not ramping up until about 10 minutes into the game. I have a custom fan curve that starts at 50% once anything on the chipset hits 50 degrees Celsius. Even once my fans started the temperature did not go above 60 degrees C. I found it impressive the the laptop was running that cool with the game output to 1080p with the upscale while the Steam Deck really struggles to hit that 1080p 30fps target while still looking good. I may come back to update this comment once I get to the second area of the game, since that location is more taxing.
Maybe I remember wrong but GPU wise the M1 should be in the ballpark of PS4’s but it has a faster CPU. So it makes sense. Cheers mate and happy gaming.
I think it might be more about thermals. This is a tiny ass device with no fans. If you look at MrMacRight videos you’ll discover that thermals make a difference on Mac as well. The 16’ MBP sports higher FPS count than the 14’ with the same hardware. Not to mention the MBA vs the MBP with the same base chip. Cheers mate. Edit: typo
Is it just me or are the differences massive? This channel usually calls out graphical differences that I can’t even perceive but in this comparison it looks like ps4 vs ps2 and they are acting like it’s almost the same lol
The rendered assets ARE nearly identical, the render resolution is atrocious. He briefly addressed this at 1:36 and 4:18. For some reason the average person can't see past render resolution, I even remember this trick being pulled by some wack console fanboy that would turn all the PC settings up to max at 360p to show how PC games looked worse than console 10 years ago or so.
@@MarikHavair Your efforts are wasted Everyone with more than two brain cells and who’s actually interested in what DF has to say could’ve understood this in 3 seconds flat The ones that don’t, or feign not to, are the ones who had a preconceived notion in their head about the company manufacturing the device and are just bristling at the idea, perceived or real, that that notion is being challenged and this is their way of trying to cope
they are and he did. just because he didn't use extremes like "atrocious" "horrible" or whatever you people use nowadays doesn't mean he didn't say it's bad.
Welcome to te club console gamers, you guys are finally experiencing what we PC gamers had to endure with for almost a decade, it's finally nice to be able to both agree when resolution, textures and fps matter But like you always say "30fps is more cinematic" right guys?
I'm impressed. I remember when iPhones were new and the selling point was that they had TellTale games on them. Kojima's games have always been well optomized, but the fact that Death Stranding can run on a phone now is amazing!
Say what you will about Apple HW, but to run a few years old great looking AAA on a 200g fanless device that’s under a centimetre thick is rather mind blowing.
@@NucleosyntheseI’m talking about the iPhone, not the M1 Max laptop. But I do agree with you, was expecting better frames from the M chip, considering what 2060 laptops can cost, it’s a joke.
I think it's great that new-ish AAA games are now on Apple Silicon. I don't know if it's financial feasible, but I think there are lots of older AAA games that would really rock on iPhones. Netflix brought three GTA titles to mobile, but I would love to see some of my older favs that are on M-series Macs, but not iPhones/iPads, like Batman Arkham City, Borderlands 1/2, Bioshock 1/2, Witcher 1/2. Apple also needs to lean on controller makers so that we can get side-mounted controllers for iPad.
CDPR recently, out of the blue, updated the Witcher 1 and 2 for Apple Silicon. They had a Mac version but it didn’t work on M chips. If they port Cyberpunk on Mac I swear I’ll repurchase it on GOG. Cheers.
The Iphone version doesn't look similar to the PS4 version. The PS4 version is way ahead. You keep saying you can barely tell the difference but that is not true. You can clearly see the difference. If we can see it we know you can see it.
@@RUclips-Censorship-Policeyour opinion don’t matter 30fps on modern games like death stranding ac mirage on. 200 grams phone with no fan is impressive maybe poor people can’t relate
@@ttghhgg1918 "maybe poor people can’t relate", you couldn't be more elitist after that statement, even if you tried... Sorry, I'm not paying for an overpriced Apple product just to play games on a tiny screen, also "poor people" can still get a decent PC or console to play, in better quality and cheaper than buying this phone.
@@Dante93k who is telling u to buy a phone to play games?its just the tech people are talking about that a modern aaa game can run on a 200grams phone with no fan n ofc its ebtter to game on pc doesnt mean there cant be options n even watching movie for most people would be in tv n laptop but i think watching movie in ipad with that quality n portablity is the best thing ive ever experienced even tho i have a good monitor i still watch everything on the pad same as iphone gaming
Really not sure why Ollie thinks the Iphone footage is comparable in the opening couple of minutes. It looks soft as hell. DF are usually insanely fussy and letting this slide is just kind of weird. Sorry Ollie
@@RUclips-Censorship-Police Nah they could probably push the phones a little more, but the issue mostly comes down to battery life. No one would care to play a game if they had to keep their phone plugged in/if their phone died in 20 minutes because it was using too much power. Until Solid State Batteries becomes a thing for phones, they're very limited on how much juice they can put into the device's hardware.
@sumairsaif2050 it's really sad tbh, even the snapdragon 8g2 has the gpu power of a gtx 1550 (according to geekerwan), which is a very entry level pc gpu, but you still could play most ps4 games in 1080p with max settings. the iphone 15 pro's gpu is probably quite a bit stronger than the 8g2, so imagine how these ports could look if the cooling was good enough. if they just made the phones a bit broader and add a proper vent...
Despite the tech still being early, it is still exciting being able to play on your laptop or iMac, and then take it on your phone with you in your pocket. I think it will be interesting to see where we end up in 5 years from now with games on mobile.
@@xubz Oh, what sad times are these when passing ruffians can say Ni at will to old ladies. There is a pestilence upon this land, nothing is sacred. Even those who arrange and design shrubberies are under considerable economic stress in this period in history.
ollie talks a lot of weird pointless stuff and seems to have not nearly as much clue of tech as alex, rich, john, or tom, one of the reasons why i often stop the video as soon as i hear his voice.
I mean when talking about resolution it always has to be considered what kind of screen you're viewing the game at. On a small phone screen a lower resolution (but similar other features of rendering) are much more tolerable than viewing it on a PC monitor or a TV in your living room. Out of context the sentence does sound weird but it's not hard to read between the lines, especially if you've been watching other DF content.
they can put the whole game on an iphone but not support anisotropic filtering above 2x on pc and support metal fx but not update any other upscaling techniques?
You can just force AF in the drivers (like you should already be doing for almost every game)... unless you're on AMD, in which case the AF setting is broken. You can also inject FSR2 on AMD.
Still mind blowing that this is even possible and runs as well as it does. This is a late generation game of ONLY the previous generation of consoles. Mobile chip sets really are catching up fast.
The other way of thinking about it is given the huge cutbacks in details and resolution it's hard to think that a 2023 1300$ phone can't match half the power output of a 10 years old 2013 400$ console...
@@BlindTrustProjectyou gave yourself the answer by not knowing the correct terminology. Power Output, I’d suggest looking up how much power consumption a PS4 has vs an iPhone 15. at full load. Your answer is there, it’s around 10w for an iPhone, and 250watts for the original ps4.
@@Nookie94 Yeah so more like power draw you mean? ^^ But what do I know I learned english at 25 yo. (Don't worry I know what you meant to say ;-) ) Still. I think it's not an impressive result given the price of the iPhone pro, its 2.2Tflops gpu, and the abysmal resolution the game is running at.
@@BlindTrustProject Yeah, that's exactly what I commented - 2.2 tflops? Really? Probably somewhere between 300-1000 Gigaflops and I wouldn't be surprised if it's on the lower end.
yeh I agree the phone is terribly overpriced, however I would say that the PS4 was a dedicated gaming machine, these phones aren't built to game. I'm sure if you pumped 250w into the chip it would perform better than the ps4 (assuming the chip supported that) . It seems to be an issue with most consumer chips right now from my limited experience. An anecdotal example I have would be the 3070 vs 4070 in rasterised performance, I believe the 4070 is only around a 10-13% improvement. I'd assume that's one of the reasons AMD / APPLE / Nvidia are moving towards resolution scaling solutions and ai frame generation. @@BlindTrustProject
This is the engine I would call next gen. Originally used and developed by the makers of Horizon. I still wouldn't play on a phone though, grose. What phones should be doing though, is become computers by attaching a dock.
I still don't think i'd want to play on my phone tbh. I'd rather still use a dedicated handheld like a switch or steam deck with built in controls than to kill my phone's battery and keeping a controller on me while i'm on the go.
I would love to know who these people are who have money for an iPhone 15 Pro but can't get their hands on a PS4/5/PC in order to play the game. Death Stranding is like a film, whether or not you think it's a good one. A phone screen is probably the worst conceivable way to experience it.
@@brunoutechkaheeros1182 I just don't see the experience enjoyable. You need to connect controller each time, the battery will drain fast so you need to have it plugged in, the screen is very small, etc. I don't see why would I use my phone for gaming if I can simply use Steam Deck or a similar handheld. Mobile phones are good for, well...mobile games.
I think if you buy it on the store you get it on every apple device, so I'd happily continue my game on a phone/iPad when away from main device if that was the way. Similar to Witcher 3 Switch version and cross progression with PC
iPhone is 200gms with no fan n it’s running death stranding ,ac mirage at 30fps while a 3kgs ps4 can’t run ac mirage with. 2kilo heatsink maybe god could spare u some iq in next life
@@ttghhgg1918 oh I know this, my point is apple clearly don't. As for your comparison, they run alot better on PS4 as you would expect. Clearly, apple need to be told 400p and 15fps isn't exactly something you should be shouting about iPhones can do lol. Maybe read my post properly, if your iq is adequate it should be pretty clear.
@@samhawkes6597 iPhone apu can run ray tracing on a 200grams product while a 3kilo console can’t n ofc it’s impressive even back 14years epic games made games for iPhone which android phones couldn’t come close to yet.N phones wouldn’t be any bigger but the apu will keep getting better n if one first gen they can outperform a ps4 with ray tracing n modern games like ac mirage in 2years even ps5 will be beat n also Apple runs on 3nm which is already miles ahead tech for any chip manufacturer
@@ttghhgg1918 your completely missing my point. Yes it's wonderful how fast apple chips can run given how small they are and in an iPhone and not a bulky console etc. that's all lovely. My point was, I dont care how small the chip is and how small the iPhone is, 400p graphics at 15fps is shit plain and simple. It's not 'console quality' graphics that they advertised about. It's crap. Either someone needs to tell apple to shop advertising console quality games because 400p at 15 fps ain't that, or, which is much more likely, they bloody know 300/400p and 15fps isn't even last gen console quality but there guna sell it like that anyway. Read my post properly!
@@samhawkes6597 u are seeing 1 game resident evil ran 40fps in 720p stable n fsr 3 mods are coming too with frame geenration apple can reach 100fps on this games in 2 years
@@VariantAECIts all tied to your apple account so unless they change their whole arcitecture again buying it on the app store should let you use it for years down the line.
Whoever thought mobile would kill consoles, is insane. The 2023 flagship phone performs as well as a Xbox360(2005) with more memory. I'm pretty sure the Switch could run this in a similar way.
@@oo--7714 This is a native port, to a chip made on the most advanced node technology(still to this day) running at 400p sub 30fps. The Switch chip is from 2015 and the SteamDeck is several times more powerful than both.
@@MaxIronsThirdEh not really it is just the mac port ripped out running on a 5 watt system with no cooling, it isn't going to do well. There isn't enough power for the chip to play this game comfortably, not to mention the cooling being non existent. Technology doesn't move so fast in 2 years to the point where you can play ps4 games well on a phone without cooling at 5 wattd, it doesn't matter what node it on it ain't happening for a long time. It will just throttle the heat needs to go somewhere.
@@MaxIronsThirdI am iphone to the steam deck. Both are trying to play gamesthat came out on 11 year old systems. The steam deck only does it at 720p and phones even 2 years after the steam deck don't really stand a chance.
It's wild you can get that level of performance in your pocket. The future is truly now. For me the point here isn't that this is the way to get the best experience, but an interesting novelty and a great way to be able to take one of the best games ever made with you wherever. Incredible.
Samsung phones have absolutely blown me away for that reason. I used to have nothing but iPhone until the Samsung S21 came out and I felt like giving a different phone a try. Within a week I had PS2 emulators up and running and playing San Andreas and Yakuza 2 from beginning to end with 200% resulting boost and nearly perfect 60 frames performance. Absolutely incredible what phones are capable of doing nowadays
@@thequinlanshow3326 Ha -- I just switched to the iPhone 15 pro after a decade on andriod (bc I wanted to play pocket death stranding). Somehow I never considered pocket yakuza... may have to switch back...
@@barberza you can side load apps if you want, I emulated windows xp on a 12 pro max at one point, can't imagine how much faster a 15 pro would be at emulating
Am I the only one that finds it jarring and super dissapointing that a very expensive M1 Max is beaten by an ancient, low-end RTX 2060? A last gen 3060 would destroy this thing.. We don't even have to talk about a price comparable RTX 4090 mobile
87% of Apple consumers are teenagers in us Only 5% consumers buy apple products for productivity Most people I know only use mac for email checking and streaming (youtube, Netflix etc)
Maybe should have held off until the iPhone 18 Pro Max and not billed the new iPhone as a CURRENT-GEN console instead as a PS3 Pro or a basde model PS4-like console experience, but that wouldn't look very Apple... so they lied and made themselves look less reputable.
On M3 Max I run the game in 120FPS mode though it doesnt always feel like it hits it, but the biggest gripe with the mac port is that the HDR feels busted with highlights becoming quite overblown. iPad (12.9 M1 pro) is kinda between the two - the image quality does get quite blurry but from what I noticed the performance is solid. Cant seem to play with a magic keyboard although it does read the inputs. Good port though, enjoying this game a lot as something to play in bed rather than a proper couch experience somehow.
@@petersagi275 My point is that it's really disappointing. I do'nt know if mac owners would like to see their exenpsive device be destoryed by relatively cheap, older PC stuff. But you are right, it would be interesting.
@@NucleosyntheseZero Mac users are buying a Mac JUST (or even primarily) for the gaming performance. That’s why it’s immaterial that an older PC will “destroy” it…that’s not part of the calculus. I have a Mac and an iPhone that I bought for 1000 other reasons each, respectively. The fact that they can play games likes this is simply a value add. In that context, it doesn’t matter to me if I could get a 4090-based system for $500…I very simply don’t want the extra hardware (and noise, power draw, etc) in my house to play a game at nicer settings.
@@ttghhgg1918judging by the current flagship android GPU benchmark scores (andreno750) they could easily play the game at the same level as the iphone15Pro. Also who would buy this game when you can stream console level graphics through Game Pass or GeForce now? 😁😁😁
I just started playing this game on Steam, and as impressive as it is on the iPhone, I can’t fathom anyone actually wanting to play through this whole game on such a small screen. I wish that instead of these AAA graphically demanding games, Apple would start to port slightly older games from the PS3/360 era, and do a lot of them. That would be a better start for proper mobile gaming because those games would run flawlessly without any compromise on the iPhone.
I am most interested in seeing what is the upper limit of Apple silicon gaming. M3 Mac currently would be the chip to test that with (Ultra series have issues with many games due to their SLI like nature). I know people are buying an M3 Max machine to play games, but that can be said for iPhone and M1 Max too. But for people that buy these machines to complete other tasks, it's nice to know what is already available to them gaming wise. The highest core M3 Max seems to be around a desktop 3080 or the fattest dedicated laptop GPU on the market. Would nice to see an in depth channel like this confirm.
I have it. Looks like mud, as the resolution is just too low. Cutscenes look nice, though. It’s possible it just doesn’t take advantage of the hardware, as it looks better on an M1 Mac.
It's either I'm blind, or you DF guys are blind, but the difference is MASSIVE. Repeat after me, MASSIVE. Don't want to believe you guys are paid to promote this nonesense, but it looks awful on iPhone. Not sure when was the last time an DF video seemed like a total bull**** to me, but here we are. To other people, do yourself a favor: play this game on any other platform and on a HUGE screen, it's visual masterpiece.
Death stranding is a technical marvel. I was blown away when i played it on my PS4. Then i played the remaster on PS5 and was still in shock on how good the game looked, especially at 60fps!
What if Kojims was allowed to take fox engine with him and develop it for these 10 years even further... MGS:V works on high settings and locked 60fps on Steam Deck.
@@oo--7714 no bother, ill whip out my xbox controller that I carry around in my pocket to no discomfort obviously, find something to prop the phone up and squint at my tiny screen and try immerse myself in this blockbuster experience whilst the framerate plummets constantly. ...ill stick to looking out the window
I am sorry, but how can you even say that it "comes surprisingly close to console experience" if it renders just 15% of PS4's version pixel count and drops constantly into teens?
using less than 10% of the power of the PS4 too. I'm not saying the iPhone version is worth playing, just that people need to come back to reality when they compare these very different things.
@Winston-1984 so? What's power efficiency has to do about how the game looks? Spoiler: it is not related. Of course, the iPhone is way more power efficient, but my point still stands: it is not "surprisingly close" to PS4 in terms of graphics.
@Winston-1984 just stop, I never said that graphics are bad for an iPhone. I am simply doubting the words that it is "surprisingly close" to the PS4 version in terms of graphical fidelity because it isn't. Efficiency has literally nothing to do with me disagreeing with what Oli said about the graphics.
@@asmodeusml I don't think the graphics are surprisingly close either. I'm impressed that a phone can (kind of) play relatively modern games. I'm not planning on playing these games on any phone, but devs working on low power systems and improving efficiency is a big deal. I don't like when people oversell how good this is or oversell how bad this is.
The power & thermal envelope of the iPhone (any phone) is a massive constraint, if the iPhone had better cooling & a much bigger battery, i bet it would run far better.
@@INFINITY-f1m Few android phones have amazing cooling, no one buys them. I guess you're right, why does apple want to sell so many phones, they should be making super niche phones and sell them at low volumes.
@@ttghhgg1918 what mirage hasnt even released on ios and runs at a rock solid 1080p 30 on ps4 while none of the tripple A ports like death stranding manage to run at a stable 30fps on iphone with much worse visuals
If someone from 2024 told 7-year-old me back in 2002, that a device the size of my GBA that I loved so much could render real time visuals designed for games consoles two generations ahead of what I was used to, I just wouldn't have believed them. Say what you will about the end result, it still blows my mind that games like this can run at all on devices that fit in your pocket.
Considering how fast advancements to mobile chipsets nowadays, I'm not surprised plus the cost of an iphone 15 pro at $1300 (512gb). Still impressive nonetheless.
I got it for the iPhone and despite the blurryness and frame drop it was still enjoyable, played it with a backbone during a flight. No matter what it’s to be expected to be a lesser version than the ps4 but at least they charged 20 bucks instead of the full 60 like what Nintendo did with mortal kombat. It’s only gonna improve from here, it’s still exciting to see Apple slowly embracing the gaming side. And now matter how you look at it, it’s still really cool that we’ve reached to the point where we can play console titles on our phones. It’s not perfect but this would’ve been impossible only couple years ago
Don't care what anyone says - I think this is still incredibly impressive to be running at reasonable framerate on a phone. And for all your FPS snobs, I say "reasonable framerate" meaning that the entire game isn't locked to 1 FPS with crippling audio stuttering and major graphical errors.
Nice job, Oliver. As a DF Patreon supporter, I have been enjoying getting to know you better as you have been on the team for a while now. And I feel like you’ve been consistently opening up and letting your personality shine through more and more. And I’m really happy to see that. Glad you’re here as part of the DF crew :)
Welcome to te club console gamers, you guys are finally experiencing what we PC gamers had to endure with for almost a decade, it's finally nice to be able to both agree when resolution, textures and fps matter But like you always say "30fps is more cinematic" right guys?
@@dzenacs2011 ? This comment is very stupid, all apple products are terribly overpriced, that shoudn't be even pointed out. And is isn't an argument on ANYTHING, since it WORKS and people made apple the most rich company in the world. And especially shouldn't be an argument against a device as little as a phone, with no cooling, no font, no fans, no size, running the game i played on my ps5 and my pc. It is impressive. I shoudn't have to draw it for you.
I’m playing on a M2 MAX MBP 14’, wide 1440p, MetalFX temporal ultra and max settings. While I left the Metal HUD on it was staying between 60 and 90 FPS. Although I saw it deep in the high 50s once or twice. Now I don’t have the HUD on, I played for around 40 hours on an external monitor with VRR. It’s been a great experience, as good as my 150 hours on PS5 and better than my 350 hours on PS4 Pro. (No kidding 😂) I also played 4/5 hours on Steam Deck and for some reason I didn’t feel compelled to go back continuing the game while I can’t wait to go back playing on Mac. 🤣 My 2 cents. Cheers and happy gaming.
Sorry but those differences are massive and obvious. The iphone is so low res conpared to the ps4 and the detail reduction is huge! And when you say simplified waterfall animation... what animation? Looks forzen to me. I like DF because they tell it like it is without biased or a leaning. Almost seems paid ad territory
He pointed out the low resolution, which is most of the reason for detail reduction. And there was the bare minimum of animation on the waterfall, you just weren't looking close enough
While there is a considerable difference, at least from what I can see, I still find it impressive to see it running on an iPhone, even though I don't own one myself.
It’s honestly nuts how good this game still looks on a PS4
I booted up HZD on base PS4 a while back and thought the same thing. Decima is such a beast of an engine.
This is sort of unrelated, but I'm appalled that people genuinely expect Nintendo's next console having graphics considerably better than PS4 when the iPhone 15 Pro, a $1K+ device, can't even match the last gen console (as seen here). Sure, you'll get higher power targets while docked and Nvidia's superior GPU package, but at best it'll be somewhat comparable or slightly better than base PS4 (and below PS4 Pro), but only when docked.
@@leonro One benefit the next switch will have going for it is that it can draw more power, even in handheld mode. From what I can gather online along with some napkin math, the iPhone 15 Pro Max can consume up to around 5 Watts in total (all components) in a game like resident evil. The original Switch consumed up to around 9W in portable mode (again: all components). *IF* the next switch is a larger device, higher power targets might also be possible. Steam deck is around 24-27W after all, though I doubt Nintendo would go that far.
The next switch will also have the advantage of having major games be specifically made for it (unlike the iPhone so far) and will support more modern rendering features unlike the PS4. So in short, it's not a straight comparison between these devices. A barebones port of a game from Ps4 might not do so well on a Switch 2, but it's also not entirely unfeasible for there to be new games that look better than a lot of stuff on PS4.
The PS4 in my personal opinion , looks to be a console that makes it harder for the uninitiated to easily see giant strides in graphical enhancements going forward in console power. The same wasnt true for its predecessor
@@Der-Kleine Again, I'm almost certain that the Switch 2 will beat the iPhone, even if the phone's SoC uses a superior process node (3nm TSMC) when compared to even the most optimistic Switch 2 rumours (4nm TSMC). There will be higher power targets and probably a larger battery to support them, plus a few other factors that will help in better optimising software for the platform.
It's just that this is the class of hardware the console will be on. I've seen numerous comments on how it'll get close to the Series S, which is simply impossible.
Am I tripping? The difference seems massive. Like you couldn't even make out the grass and moss on the iPhone, it's just puddles and smears of green. The difference between the footage is like comparing a printed photo vs an oil painted rendition of the scene.
Why didn't he use photomode to zoom in on stuff?
@@VariantAEC photo mode isn't exactly a good way to assess footage since it often doesn't resemble actual gameplay image quality. A lot of photo modes even increase graphical fidelity once you enter the mode to ensure that your shots look good. Photo mode is a great tool but not for stuff like this.
iPhone Version looks like a blurry mess in my opinion 😅
@@kadupse hmm I don't know.
I mean I know what whats your point, but even on my phone screen it looks terrible. I don't have the direct comparison but I would say that the Games on the Steam Deck look way clearer.
@@BenyaminLorit
Both version have photomode... So, I'm a bit lost as why it can't be used to close in on details to see if iPhone shows them at all. Speaking of... you do know the iPhone version is smaller than the PS4 version by several GB, right? Are you confident all that detail will miraculously appear in photomode?
Just recently, I finished playing Death Stranding on a 55" OLED-connected PS5 - I've spent around 100 hours playing. My question is - who on Earth would delve into this game and enjoy playing subsequent quests on a 6-inch screen?? Even on an 11-inch iPad?? You need a SCREEN to feel game like this !
you're def. right! +1
Exactly
Kids today play mostly on a phones, Tablets and PCs? Not consoles. You think they’re doing this for console gamers? What?
I think it's just fun as a proof of concept
If we had synced save games, I would love to just keep building roads and making random deliveries while traveling. Those parts of the game always felt like a huge waste of time when playing at home (since I'm not a teenager so I have a very limited play time), so it's perfect when you are waiting for your airplane connection and have to waste time anyway.
For anyone with both an iPhone and another compatible platform - buy on your other plaftorm, not your phone. DS was built for those giant, beautiful vistas and feeling of scale. Playing it on a phone must severely limit the impact.
What if the other platform is M3 Max? Then I can buy it once and have it 4k 60 on the big screen, and have the option of playing it mobile for free.
@@destructodisk9074 And the save carries over?
@@destructodisk9074same for PC and Steam - get it once, run it both at 4k@60 and on a mobile/handheld system running Steam.
@@kgotterit does
You can play on macOS then mirror to visionOS
He's being so generous to the phone here lol.. Viewing this on a TV, the differences are very noticeable. But the benefit of the phones being much smaller probably makes these blurry textures and things not as bad.
I thought playing games on a small 42inch 4k TV was the smallest screen I could handle.
Gaming on a tiny phone screen would be not fun .
@@Crashed131963playing a game like Bloons Tower Defence 6 works pretty good and is only slightly less convenient than playing it on a PC. OSRS mobile works really good as well. Some games are genuinely worth playing on a phone, but I have no idea why anyone would want to play a game like Death Stranding on one though.
I mean he owns the phone he is testing it on so this review is kinda tinged tbf
I think its mostly resolution, its much lower on iphone.
@@NoradNoxtusthis is a triple A game with incredible graphics running on a freaking phone. A PHONE
It’s pretty crazy to see how powerful the computer in our pockets have become. No matter if you are on Android or iOS it’s impressive.
You're or you are.
NOT your.
@@PSYCHOV3N0M oh snap grammar police……it has been fixed sir 🫡
@@PSYCHOV3N0M omg its the grandmar police 😦
@@imnotabearr lol
Am I going crazy? I am seeing low quality, low resolution, blurry image on the iPhone side and much crisper, detailed ps4 version on the right, yet I hear “they look similar, they look comparable”…
He's talking about the assets themselves used in the render, the render resolution is atrocious, the items being render between the 2 (3?) systems are nearly identical.
What Marik said. He does talk the resolution decrease, calling it "huge" and saying the iPhone seemed to average around 400p. For all the other comparisons, he was talking about the actual underlying settings and techniques.
The shading is similar and the rendering techniques are similar. Some of the compromises that are often made when porting down is simplifying the lighting and shading function, cutting down on atmospheric and volumetric shading, removing ambient occlusion, and also cutting down on offscreen buffers such as removing shadow mapping entirely. Of course once you do that, the image won't be recognisable as similar even from a distance regardless of resolution or how sharp or blurry it is or the LOD selection. This is what they have been able to avoid, and given the target is a phone, this is impressive.
You're not crazy. I left a very similar comment before I saw yours. The game doesn't look great on the iPhone, and the comparison shots make it look truly terrible, and the guy (I forget his name at the moment) keeps saying they look similar. Not sure what that was about.
@@ZeusTheIrritable You've got to be a little realistic about how you expect a high end PS4 game port running on a smartphone to look! Very blurry yes but it's still quite an accomplishment.
Oh come on. 400p even on a mobile screen is horrible. I watched this on my phone and the mobile footage was just blurry
Couldn’t agree more. It should be 720p minimum
Just be happy it even runs on your phone and you have a option
@@MrMariovideo13 Such a bad way to look at it. The option may as well not exist if that option is no good.
400p on a 6.7" screen is a higher pixel density than 1080p on a 24" screen and the same as 1440p on a 27" screen.
The difference in viewing distance is made up for by the considerably higher pixel density vs. 1080p 24", and 1080p 24" is definitely the most common monitor choice. We are talking about ~110 ppi vs. 90ppi here, and that is if the phone is the 6.7" Pro Max and not the 6.1" regular! The gap gets even bigger there.
If 400p on a phone is bad, then you better not be using a 1080p 24" monitor or worse...
The steam deck plays many newer games at that resolution.
Let's not kid ourselves, the iPhone version looks nowhere near PS4 quality. Looks like a significantly cutdown blurry mess!
The ai upscaling looks awful and is one of my biggest pet peeves about this generation. Majority of developers are using it at too low of an internal resolution and it looks disgusting even compared to 720p games on the switch
yeah, reminds me of one of these horrible looking and overhyped switch ports like doom 2016
Kinda goes without saying. No phone now or for a long time is going to have PS4 level performance, given that the PS4 is GTX 980 equivalent machine. The only real way these kinda games are gonna look decent on such cutdown hardware is with the source code being revisited and changes to the geometry and whatnot. Still, it's interesting to see happen.
@@JamieChorleythe ps4 is absolutely not a gtx 980 equivalent machine, its a lot closer to the hd 7850 bruh (gtx 980 released as a flagship in 2014 mate) but thats still way better than any mobile igpu
Not only that the ps4 gets full power will cellphone run fanless on battery and need to keep cool.
I like how they say you can play this with touchscreen controls. Well yeah we CAN do that. We also can play Dark Souls with a Guitar Hero controller or DDR mat but why would anyone want to do that to themselves?
Use your gaming controller?
This is not a game that really requires twitch controls
game doesnt need *that* good of responses from players. Also backbone and bluetooth controllers exist.
Do you really need kbm for a walking simulator? Ask yourselves
He says in the video that he doesn’t recommend using touch controls though? 6:26
it's really impressive that we can literally run console level games on our Phones, technology has gone a long way we're literally living the future that was predicted 20 years ago
Nothing impressive about it
@@markusklein7222 You don't think a low power device with minimal battery & tiny thermal headroom runs the same game (way lower settings sure) than a console that using more than 10X the power?
@@markusklein7222looser
@@Winston-1984nope, it looks and runs terribly.
@@brewski535nope what? I didn’t say it runs well.
"about the same"? DF are we looking at the same footage? The grass, details, text on the label, and general blurriness on the iphone is like day and night...
he said detail level, not resolution.
You know the Iphone screen is tiny compared to a TV or Desktop? You won’t notice it on an Iphone.
I'm literally watching this on my phone. Not even in full screen. I still see a big difference between the two
@@teehundeart Again. You’re watching 2 comparisons side by side so of course you’ll see the difference.
The guy said the same thing comparibg the steam deck to the series s.
I’ve tried Death Stranding on my M3 Pro 12C/18C MacBook Pro. It runs 120Hz with medium settings, Metal FX quality, 2560x1440. The machine is silent running the game (no fan noise), total system power draw (inc display) averaged ~40W and the display and speakers provided an excellent experience (HDR on the XDR mini LED display is gorgeous, and MacBooks have amazing deep/rich speakers).
The quality of life difference between a modern Mac and a PC gaming laptop is insane. Regardless of what you think about Macs, it’s pretty absurd how terrible gaming laptops are in terms of efficiency, heat, noise, weight/size etc., they suck to live with.
FWIW, also tried it on an M1 Ultra 20C/48C Mac Studio and it had no trouble running it at 60Hz with everything turned up (at or below 120W)
Try Razer gaming laptop
Or a $700 laptop with an AMD 780m integrated graphics can play at these settings and get playable framerate using 35W at the soc.
@@logancollier1705 your comment prompted me try higher settings. If a basic GPU like 780m can manage these settings, then the M3 Pro must be able to do more.
Turns out the M3 Pro 18C manages 60fps at 2560x1600 with the very high preset (all options turned up). Thanks!
@@INFINITY-f1mrazor is just a brand, you do know that right? They still get their gpu, cpus etc from other manufacturers
@@Aaronage1 fr that's the only thing that keeps me away from macs is apple lack of support for gaming on them, like these devices clearly are capable but they just dont
you can change the settings of iphone and ipad version by throwing the cfg file from mac version in to the app folder. (You can do it with a Mac or pc.) I turned off motion blur and increased the resolution for better image quality.
So you are telling me that I have to buy a MacBook to change graphics settings lol
Is there any way to contact you about that, I want to do some experimenting with the settings
@@OverkillLabs I can send this file to u via email，now the game running in 900p on my phone
I might be getting filtered so it's not letting me send it here
@@INFINITY-f1m no you can do it with a pc.
iPhone being literally blurry "very similar looking" I'm sorry but what?
He’s talking about visual features, not resolution 😅
@@rockothetaco95 he didn't even mention the completely missing foliage and texture quality.
@@mkb144p6that's just the 400p that's hiding the foliage and texture quality.
@@goncaloduarte4683 watch some ps4 footage @ 360p you'll still see foliage clearly
Digital foundry can't criticize Sony or apple, they need review codes
This is wild that we can now run a game like death stranding on a damn phone
uh... we are able to emulate GTA 5 Windows version on Android as well for quite some time... FullHD 30fps
@@brunoutechkaheeros1182 true windows and switch emulation on android have been quite impressive for some time now
@@brunoutechkaheeros1182 I Guess she was referencing to something like snake on a 3210
I'm still astounded we can run doom on a phone. Never been much of a mobile gamer
It really isn't.
HDR looks incredible in locked 4K 60fps on a Macbook display.
those macbook screens make everything look nice
The difference between the 15 pro and the PS4 is substantial, and you are being incredibly generous to the iPhone here. The resolution and performance are noticeably poor, and the LODs are clearly reduced in terms of textures and foliage . Specular details are clearly worse. Those differences are clear, even when watching on a mobile phone.
iPhone uses 14W Max
PS4 uses 150 - 200W+
Maybe you should temper your expectations with some perspective.
@@Winston-1984 he is absolutely right, it's a fact that the game looks like soup and runs like a grandma with arthritis compared to a 10 year old console, ollie is obviously downplaying the differences for whatever reason.
@@Winston-1984 No amount of victory gin will change the fact that the PS4 is a 10 year old console.
@@SimonStewart75 you’ve read a book with words, proud of you 🖤
@@RUclips-Censorship-Police a 5 year old game
kojima toked up in the crib going "put it on a phone"
also apologise to stellar blade's actress
It’s Apple silicon which is that good
Wait, what hapenned with Stellar Blade?
@@nabieladrian trust me that you're better off not knowing. It's terminally online gamer nonsense.
These iphone games should be compared to deck, check fps resolution and powerusage.
And battery life comparison would be interesting as well.
😂
The power usage is lower than the steam deck, digital foundry just runs the deck at its max wattage 15 watts.
@@oo--7714 i know its lower, i just want to see a proper comparison.
A deck isn’t fanless, weights about twice as much, and has half the battery life. It’s also not in your pocket all the time.
It’s really a dumb comparison.
iPhone version of DS look like PS3 version of MGS5 or PS Vita version of Uncharted/Assassin's Creed Liberation.
The iPhone version looks like Vaseline has been smeared across the screen. It’s a dreadful image. What a peculiar way to ruin an amazing gaming experience.
Digital Foundry should provide Oliver a new MacBook Pro 16” M3 ultra and an iPad Pro for testing this kind of content on the most powerful apple silicon devices !
RUclipsrs when there is 5 pixel difference between ps5 and xbox series X: there is a massive difference in quality and resulotion and performance.
RUclipsrs when there is a massive difference in quality, resulotion, and performance on ps5 and nokia 3310: the foliage looks a little bit different.
Playing the game for a bit on my base M1 MacBook Pro I was quite impressed. It basically looked like how I remember the PS4 version looking back in the day, perhaps a bit sharper, at 30fps with default settings. I may tune the game to hit 60fps but I was quite happy with my fans not ramping up until about 10 minutes into the game. I have a custom fan curve that starts at 50% once anything on the chipset hits 50 degrees Celsius. Even once my fans started the temperature did not go above 60 degrees C. I found it impressive the the laptop was running that cool with the game output to 1080p with the upscale while the Steam Deck really struggles to hit that 1080p 30fps target while still looking good.
I may come back to update this comment once I get to the second area of the game, since that location is more taxing.
Did you try running at 4k?
Maybe I remember wrong but GPU wise the M1 should be in the ballpark of PS4’s but it has a faster CPU. So it makes sense.
Cheers mate and happy gaming.
300 and 400p!? Wow. Never thought it would be that low. As "powerful" as the '15 pro chip is, it wasnt made for games.
I think it might be more about thermals. This is a tiny ass device with no fans. If you look at MrMacRight videos you’ll discover that thermals make a difference on Mac as well. The 16’ MBP sports higher FPS count than the 14’ with the same hardware. Not to mention the MBA vs the MBP with the same base chip.
Cheers mate.
Edit: typo
Is it just me or are the differences massive? This channel usually calls out graphical differences that I can’t even perceive but in this comparison it looks like ps4 vs ps2 and they are acting like it’s almost the same lol
The rendered assets ARE nearly identical, the render resolution is atrocious. He briefly addressed this at 1:36 and 4:18.
For some reason the average person can't see past render resolution, I even remember this trick being pulled by some wack console fanboy that would turn all the PC settings up to max at 360p to show how PC games looked worse than console 10 years ago or so.
@@MarikHavair Your efforts are wasted
Everyone with more than two brain cells and who’s actually interested in what DF has to say could’ve understood this in 3 seconds flat
The ones that don’t, or feign not to, are the ones who had a preconceived notion in their head about the company manufacturing the device and are just bristling at the idea, perceived or real, that that notion is being challenged and this is their way of trying to cope
they are and he did. just because he didn't use extremes like "atrocious" "horrible" or whatever you people use nowadays doesn't mean he didn't say it's bad.
Welcome to te club console gamers, you guys are finally experiencing what we PC gamers had to endure with for almost a decade, it's finally nice to be able to both agree when resolution, textures and fps matter
But like you always say "30fps is more cinematic" right guys?
@@Hhhh22222-w lmao I actually have said that before, I stand by that for certain types of games
I'm impressed.
I remember when iPhones were new and the selling point was that they had TellTale games on them. Kojima's games have always been well optomized, but the fact that Death Stranding can run on a phone now is amazing!
This looks like a Switch port
holy shit this comment section is brain dead but this is the most brain dead comment lmao
Say what you will about Apple HW, but to run a few years old great looking AAA on a 200g fanless device that’s under a centimetre thick is rather mind blowing.
Losing out to a cheap and ancient low-end RTX 2060... Even an old 3060 would destory it. I am kinda dissapointed to be honest.
@@NucleosyntheseI’m talking about the iPhone, not the M1 Max laptop. But I do agree with you, was expecting better frames from the M chip, considering what 2060 laptops can cost, it’s a joke.
@@denisruskin348 Oh apologies. The phone is fine.. I'm just very dissapointed in the mac haha
This felt like an Apple-sponsored ad; incredibly, astoundingly generous to the phone port in nearly every way. :\
I think it's great that new-ish AAA games are now on Apple Silicon. I don't know if it's financial feasible, but I think there are lots of older AAA games that would really rock on iPhones. Netflix brought three GTA titles to mobile, but I would love to see some of my older favs that are on M-series Macs, but not iPhones/iPads, like Batman Arkham City, Borderlands 1/2, Bioshock 1/2, Witcher 1/2. Apple also needs to lean on controller makers so that we can get side-mounted controllers for iPad.
CDPR recently, out of the blue, updated the Witcher 1 and 2 for Apple Silicon. They had a Mac version but it didn’t work on M chips. If they port Cyberpunk on Mac I swear I’ll repurchase it on GOG.
Cheers.
Thats the blurriest Ive ever seen an Iphone
Resident evil 4 is worse 360p on iphone
240p @@xtr.7662
Eh, need for speed unbound is just as blurry on a steam deck
The Iphone version doesn't look similar to the PS4 version. The PS4 version is way ahead. You keep saying you can barely tell the difference but that is not true. You can clearly see the difference. If we can see it we know you can see it.
Just because you can, doesn’t mean you should!
it's a cool idea as an experiment, but the final product is far from enjoyable, at least in my opinion.
@@RUclips-Censorship-Policeyour opinion don’t matter 30fps on modern games like death stranding ac mirage on. 200 grams phone with no fan is impressive maybe poor people can’t relate
@@ttghhgg1918that is the same performance as a steam deck so.....
@@ttghhgg1918 "maybe poor people can’t relate", you couldn't be more elitist after that statement, even if you tried... Sorry, I'm not paying for an overpriced Apple product just to play games on a tiny screen, also "poor people" can still get a decent PC or console to play, in better quality and cheaper than buying this phone.
@@Dante93k who is telling u to buy a phone to play games?its just the tech people are talking about that a modern aaa game can run on a 200grams phone with no fan n ofc its ebtter to game on pc doesnt mean there cant be options n even watching movie for most people would be in tv n laptop but i think watching movie in ipad with that quality n portablity is the best thing ive ever experienced even tho i have a good monitor i still watch everything on the pad same as iphone gaming
Deathstranding: Vaseline edition
0:13 I could see that lag spike even at 2x speed.
Specular highlights look flat on the iPhone. It's so drab and blurry.
Really not sure why Ollie thinks the Iphone footage is comparable in the opening couple of minutes. It looks soft as hell. DF are usually insanely fussy and letting this slide is just kind of weird. Sorry Ollie
like with with re village port, as soon as you hear "but on the little mobile display..." you know it's gonna look far worse than the "big" versions.
obvious cutbacks to be able to function on mobile?........who would've thought!!
@@sumairsaif2050obvious because of a lack of proper cooling, if the soc's wouldn't throttle all the time they could do so much more.
@@RUclips-Censorship-Police true
@@RUclips-Censorship-Police Nah they could probably push the phones a little more, but the issue mostly comes down to battery life. No one would care to play a game if they had to keep their phone plugged in/if their phone died in 20 minutes because it was using too much power. Until Solid State Batteries becomes a thing for phones, they're very limited on how much juice they can put into the device's hardware.
@sumairsaif2050
it's really sad tbh, even the snapdragon 8g2 has the gpu power of a gtx 1550 (according to geekerwan), which is a very entry level pc gpu, but you still could play most ps4 games in 1080p with max settings.
the iphone 15 pro's gpu is probably quite a bit stronger than the 8g2, so imagine how these ports could look if the cooling was good enough.
if they just made the phones a bit broader and add a proper vent...
Despite the tech still being early, it is still exciting being able to play on your laptop or iMac, and then take it on your phone with you in your pocket. I think it will be interesting to see where we end up in 5 years from now with games on mobile.
Oliver said "Shrubbery". Made my day.
FETCH ME A SHRUBBERY
@@anusmcgee4150Ni!
@@xubz Oh, what sad times are these when passing ruffians can say Ni at will to old ladies. There is a pestilence upon this land, nothing is sacred. Even those who arrange and design shrubberies are under considerable economic stress in this period in history.
Given the fact that iPhone runs the game at around 480p, saying that the hardware sits between last and current gen of consoles is a bit stretch.
I think this video is apple sponsored
240p upscaled to 480p and than the upscaled 480p is the base for fsr xD ..
@@INFINITY-f1m Yeah, very unpopular opinion, but I think some of the DF content is clearly sponsored.
ollie talks a lot of weird pointless stuff and seems to have not nearly as much clue of tech as alex, rich, john, or tom, one of the reasons why i often stop the video as soon as i hear his voice.
I mean when talking about resolution it always has to be considered what kind of screen you're viewing the game at. On a small phone screen a lower resolution (but similar other features of rendering) are much more tolerable than viewing it on a PC monitor or a TV in your living room. Out of context the sentence does sound weird but it's not hard to read between the lines, especially if you've been watching other DF content.
they can put the whole game on an iphone but not support anisotropic filtering above 2x on pc and support metal fx but not update any other upscaling techniques?
Yes
You can just force AF in the drivers (like you should already be doing for almost every game)... unless you're on AMD, in which case the AF setting is broken.
You can also inject FSR2 on AMD.
Apple most likely paid Kojima productions to port the game to Apple platforms. Majority of the devs are busy with DS2 and other 2 games.
Cause all those stuff are in house from apple not Kojima's game studio
You guys should invest in more powerful Macs to test on. Would be interesting to see how those machines stack up to more powerful PCs.
Still mind blowing that this is even possible and runs as well as it does. This is a late generation game of ONLY the previous generation of consoles. Mobile chip sets really are catching up fast.
The other way of thinking about it is given the huge cutbacks in details and resolution it's hard to think that a 2023 1300$ phone can't match half the power output of a 10 years old 2013 400$ console...
@@BlindTrustProjectyou gave yourself the answer by not knowing the correct terminology. Power Output, I’d suggest looking up how much power consumption a PS4 has vs an iPhone 15. at full load. Your answer is there, it’s around 10w for an iPhone, and 250watts for the original ps4.
@@Nookie94 Yeah so more like power draw you mean? ^^
But what do I know I learned english at 25 yo.
(Don't worry I know what you meant to say ;-) )
Still. I think it's not an impressive result given the price of the iPhone pro, its 2.2Tflops gpu, and the abysmal resolution the game is running at.
@@BlindTrustProject Yeah, that's exactly what I commented - 2.2 tflops? Really? Probably somewhere between 300-1000 Gigaflops and I wouldn't be surprised if it's on the lower end.
yeh I agree the phone is terribly overpriced, however I would say that the PS4 was a dedicated gaming machine, these phones aren't built to game. I'm sure if you pumped 250w into the chip it would perform better than the ps4 (assuming the chip supported that) . It seems to be an issue with most consumer chips right now from my limited experience. An anecdotal example I have would be the 3070 vs 4070 in rasterised performance, I believe the 4070 is only around a 10-13% improvement. I'd assume that's one of the reasons AMD / APPLE / Nvidia are moving towards resolution scaling solutions and ai frame generation.
@@BlindTrustProject
This is the engine I would call next gen. Originally used and developed by the makers of Horizon. I still wouldn't play on a phone though, grose. What phones should be doing though, is become computers by attaching a dock.
I still don't think i'd want to play on my phone tbh. I'd rather still use a dedicated handheld like a switch or steam deck with built in controls than to kill my phone's battery and keeping a controller on me while i'm on the go.
I would love to know who these people are who have money for an iPhone 15 Pro but can't get their hands on a PS4/5/PC in order to play the game. Death Stranding is like a film, whether or not you think it's a good one. A phone screen is probably the worst conceivable way to experience it.
so you dont want smartphones to advance even more and handle more console games?
also, its... kinda... your opinion, dude.
@@brunoutechkaheeros1182 No shit it's my opinion. Who else's opinion would it be?
@@brunoutechkaheeros1182 I just don't see the experience enjoyable. You need to connect controller each time, the battery will drain fast so you need to have it plugged in, the screen is very small, etc. I don't see why would I use my phone for gaming if I can simply use Steam Deck or a similar handheld. Mobile phones are good for, well...mobile games.
I think if you buy it on the store you get it on every apple device, so I'd happily continue my game on a phone/iPad when away from main device if that was the way. Similar to Witcher 3 Switch version and cross progression with PC
400p is unplayable for me .. and some complain about the 720p on switch
*there are SOME differences*
The two slides couldnt look any more different...
Clearly apple seems to think there iPhones graphics are more powerful than they actually are
iPhone is 200gms with no fan n it’s running death stranding ,ac mirage at 30fps while a 3kgs ps4 can’t run ac mirage with. 2kilo heatsink maybe god could spare u some iq in next life
@@ttghhgg1918 oh I know this, my point is apple clearly don't. As for your comparison, they run alot better on PS4 as you would expect. Clearly, apple need to be told 400p and 15fps isn't exactly something you should be shouting about iPhones can do lol. Maybe read my post properly, if your iq is adequate it should be pretty clear.
@@samhawkes6597 iPhone apu can run ray tracing on a 200grams product while a 3kilo console can’t n ofc it’s impressive even back 14years epic games made games for iPhone which android phones couldn’t come close to yet.N phones wouldn’t be any bigger but the apu will keep getting better n if one first gen they can outperform a ps4 with ray tracing n modern games like ac mirage in 2years even ps5 will be beat n also Apple runs on 3nm which is already miles ahead tech for any chip manufacturer
@@ttghhgg1918 your completely missing my point. Yes it's wonderful how fast apple chips can run given how small they are and in an iPhone and not a bulky console etc. that's all lovely.
My point was, I dont care how small the chip is and how small the iPhone is, 400p graphics at 15fps is shit plain and simple. It's not 'console quality' graphics that they advertised about. It's crap.
Either someone needs to tell apple to shop advertising console quality games because 400p at 15 fps ain't that, or, which is much more likely, they bloody know 300/400p and 15fps isn't even last gen console quality but there guna sell it like that anyway.
Read my post properly!
@@samhawkes6597 u are seeing 1 game resident evil ran 40fps in 720p stable n fsr 3 mods are coming too with frame geenration apple can reach 100fps on this games in 2 years
I played this on my iPhone and ps the fact these games can play on our phones is insane dude.
Considering how poorly it runs on a Steam deck in the later areas, that IPhone is gonna buckle hard.
Mostly excited to see how these games age and improve in performance in future iPhones.
Mostly wondering if Apple will ensure compatibility for such expensive software purchases into iPhone 19 line and beyond.
@@VariantAECits cheaper than the regular ones no?
@@VariantAECIts all tied to your apple account so unless they change their whole arcitecture again buying it on the app store should let you use it for years down the line.
Whoever thought mobile would kill consoles, is insane.
The 2023 flagship phone performs as well as a Xbox360(2005) with more memory.
I'm pretty sure the Switch could run this in a similar way.
No it is faster, a switch wouldn’t run this. The deck runs this but not at 1080p.
@@oo--7714 This is a native port, to a chip made on the most advanced node technology(still to this day) running at 400p sub 30fps.
The Switch chip is from 2015 and the SteamDeck is several times more powerful than both.
@@MaxIronsThirdEh not really it is just the mac port ripped out running on a 5 watt system with no cooling, it isn't going to do well. There isn't enough power for the chip to play this game comfortably, not to mention the cooling being non existent. Technology doesn't move so fast in 2 years to the point where you can play ps4 games well on a phone without cooling at 5 wattd, it doesn't matter what node it on it ain't happening for a long time. It will just throttle the heat needs to go somewhere.
@@oo--7714 2 years? don't you mean 11 years?
@@MaxIronsThirdI am iphone to the steam deck. Both are trying to play gamesthat came out on 11 year old systems. The steam deck only does it at 720p and phones even 2 years after the steam deck don't really stand a chance.
It's wild you can get that level of performance in your pocket. The future is truly now. For me the point here isn't that this is the way to get the best experience, but an interesting novelty and a great way to be able to take one of the best games ever made with you wherever. Incredible.
Samsung phones have absolutely blown me away for that reason. I used to have nothing but iPhone until the Samsung S21 came out and I felt like giving a different phone a try. Within a week I had PS2 emulators up and running and playing San Andreas and Yakuza 2 from beginning to end with 200% resulting boost and nearly perfect 60 frames performance. Absolutely incredible what phones are capable of doing nowadays
@@thequinlanshow3326 Ha -- I just switched to the iPhone 15 pro after a decade on andriod (bc I wanted to play pocket death stranding). Somehow I never considered pocket yakuza... may have to switch back...
@@barberza you can side load apps if you want, I emulated windows xp on a 12 pro max at one point, can't imagine how much faster a 15 pro would be at emulating
A test on M1 ipad would be great
you can set the resolution to 1950 by 900 through the mac version's graphics settings file, and the game performance remains stable at this time.
Am I the only one that finds it jarring and super dissapointing that a very expensive M1 Max is beaten by an ancient, low-end RTX 2060? A last gen 3060 would destroy this thing.. We don't even have to talk about a price comparable RTX 4090 mobile
87% of Apple consumers are teenagers in us
Only 5% consumers buy apple products for productivity
Most people I know only use mac for email checking and streaming (youtube, Netflix etc)
@@INFINITY-f1m Hmm, I did not know that. However, I myself have an expensive iPhone that I don't do anything special on either. 😅
@@NucleosyntheseI think you should try Sony or pixel phones for a change
This is where the M1 Max has always sat in terms of performance so this isn't surprising to me at all. The M2 Max and the M3 Max do much better though
How is it disappointing? M1 Max is first generation chip from 2021 that uses a fraction of the power of an RTX 2060.
I think Apple should’ve held off until the 16. RE Village on lowest settings is not great.
Maybe should have held off until the iPhone 18 Pro Max and not billed the new iPhone as a CURRENT-GEN console instead as a PS3 Pro or a basde model PS4-like console experience, but that wouldn't look very Apple... so they lied and made themselves look less reputable.
So, this whole thing gets a lot more interesting if/when Apple puts out an MX based Apple TV and it essentially becomes a console.
If they can do for the price of a $500 console hooked up to a standard 4k/TV.
@@Crashed131963 They can do it cost-competitively. But price-competitively? Lol no.
Im hoping Apple goes that route, I'd love an Apple TV with all the features and can game as well
@@Crashed131963no way $500, at least $1000
Quite a huge difference, but tbh, it works. Pretty much okay. Enjoying playing this on my iPad M1.
Why would anyone wanna play a game on a phone???
it's a cross-buy and cross-save thing, buy it for Mac and you get to play it on iPhone as well
On M3 Max I run the game in 120FPS mode though it doesnt always feel like it hits it, but the biggest gripe with the mac port is that the HDR feels busted with highlights becoming quite overblown. iPad (12.9 M1 pro) is kinda between the two - the image quality does get quite blurry but from what I noticed the performance is solid. Cant seem to play with a magic keyboard although it does read the inputs. Good port though, enjoying this game a lot as something to play in bed rather than a proper couch experience somehow.
M1 max is very interesting, however I think in 2024 it would be even better to see base M3 or M2 Max. Great work!
M3 max would be destoryed by a mid-range last gen GPU like the RTX 3060.. For the money you could get a 4090 mobile.
@@Nucleosynthese what is your point mate? I think it would be interesting to see how it runs on a fixed platform.
@@petersagi275ps5 and xbox are fixed platform
@@petersagi275 My point is that it's really disappointing. I do'nt know if mac owners would like to see their exenpsive device be destoryed by relatively cheap, older PC stuff. But you are right, it would be interesting.
@@NucleosyntheseZero Mac users are buying a Mac JUST (or even primarily) for the gaming performance. That’s why it’s immaterial that an older PC will “destroy” it…that’s not part of the calculus.
I have a Mac and an iPhone that I bought for 1000 other reasons each, respectively. The fact that they can play games likes this is simply a value add.
In that context, it doesn’t matter to me if I could get a 4090-based system for $500…I very simply don’t want the extra hardware (and noise, power draw, etc) in my house to play a game at nicer settings.
PS4 is not a weak machine as some may think it is.
good thing we are starting to get actual games on mobile
iPhones u should say android can’t catch upto this in 10years
@@ttghhgg1918 android use game pass and stream games full Xbox X quality. 😁😁
@@ttghhgg1918judging by the current flagship android GPU benchmark scores (andreno750) they could easily play the game at the same level as the iphone15Pro. Also who would buy this game when you can stream console level graphics through Game Pass or GeForce now? 😁😁😁
@@ttghhgg1918 you know the game wouldn't have been ported if Apple didn't pay them to do that
@@kvendy anyone can port the games to apple ios as its open source but u can never ever port any game like this to android as android has no software
A PC that costs half of an iPhone can run the game well over 140 FPS on max settings
How can You say it's close to ps4 when IP looks like blurry mess,
in fanboys eyes, it's close.
dude has no clue and talks a lot of bs, ollie mack is not suiting for df
Yeah to me the difference seems night and day...
He said the same thing about the steam deck and series s, honestly fsr and upscalling is terrible on a 720p screen.
@@oo--7714shilling for stadia happened here to on rthis channel
I just started playing this game on Steam, and as impressive as it is on the iPhone, I can’t fathom anyone actually wanting to play through this whole game on such a small screen. I wish that instead of these AAA graphically demanding games, Apple would start to port slightly older games from the PS3/360 era, and do a lot of them. That would be a better start for proper mobile gaming because those games would run flawlessly without any compromise on the iPhone.
I am most interested in seeing what is the upper limit of Apple silicon gaming. M3 Mac currently would be the chip to test that with (Ultra series have issues with many games due to their SLI like nature). I know people are buying an M3 Max machine to play games, but that can be said for iPhone and M1 Max too. But for people that buy these machines to complete other tasks, it's nice to know what is already available to them gaming wise. The highest core M3 Max seems to be around a desktop 3080 or the fattest dedicated laptop GPU on the market. Would nice to see an in depth channel like this confirm.
You should record this video in 400p and then try to brag about it.
Should test it on an M2 iPad Pro too. Curious to see how it looks on the go.
looks bad but its a smooth 30
just change the cfg file, game can looks really good on ipad.
I have it. Looks like mud, as the resolution is just too low. Cutscenes look nice, though. It’s possible it just doesn’t take advantage of the hardware, as it looks better on an M1 Mac.
@@loldoctor you can change the cfg file apparently
@@ahmeryaa865you need buy a MacBook to do this
It's either I'm blind, or you DF guys are blind, but the difference is MASSIVE. Repeat after me, MASSIVE. Don't want to believe you guys are paid to promote this nonesense, but it looks awful on iPhone. Not sure when was the last time an DF video seemed like a total bull**** to me, but here we are. To other people, do yourself a favor: play this game on any other platform and on a HUGE screen, it's visual masterpiece.
And i thought running GTA san andreas on my phone was impressive
10 years ago it was
@xtr.7662 10 years?? There's no way I could run something more than doodle jump on my Samsung a52
@@MrBraxgta san andreas was released on december 2013 on the play store
@@xtr.7662 woah that's wild, could barely run a proper web browser back then
@@xtr.7662 weird how the phone is painfully slow at times but can play games like that
Death stranding is a technical marvel. I was blown away when i played it on my PS4. Then i played the remaster on PS5 and was still in shock on how good the game looked, especially at 60fps!
ps4 relese date November 15-2013- playing on 1080p,iphone relese 2023 and playing on 360p wow iphone 15 pro is garbage🤣
The steam deck doesn’t run death stranding at 1080p. A phone won’t.
What if Kojims was allowed to take fox engine with him and develop it for these 10 years even further...
MGS:V works on high settings and locked 60fps on Steam Deck.
One word. Cooling
who would have the right mind to play this on a phone?!-that virtual button layout is terrifying
Use a controller 😮
@@oo--7714 no bother, ill whip out my xbox controller that I carry around in my pocket to no discomfort obviously, find something to prop the phone up and squint at my tiny screen and try immerse myself in this blockbuster experience whilst the framerate plummets constantly.
...ill stick to looking out the window
This is why controllers exist. Plenty of great telescopic and controller mounts for your phone
I am sorry, but how can you even say that it "comes surprisingly close to console experience" if it renders just 15% of PS4's version pixel count and drops constantly into teens?
using less than 10% of the power of the PS4 too.
I'm not saying the iPhone version is worth playing, just that people need to come back to reality when they compare these very different things.
@Winston-1984 so? What's power efficiency has to do about how the game looks? Spoiler: it is not related. Of course, the iPhone is way more power efficient, but my point still stands: it is not "surprisingly close" to PS4 in terms of graphics.
@@asmodeusml Hang on, so you don't get how a low power envelope & thermals would impact graphics?
@Winston-1984 just stop, I never said that graphics are bad for an iPhone. I am simply doubting the words that it is "surprisingly close" to the PS4 version in terms of graphical fidelity because it isn't. Efficiency has literally nothing to do with me disagreeing with what Oli said about the graphics.
@@asmodeusml I don't think the graphics are surprisingly close either.
I'm impressed that a phone can (kind of) play relatively modern games.
I'm not planning on playing these games on any phone, but devs working on low power systems and improving efficiency is a big deal.
I don't like when people oversell how good this is or oversell how bad this is.
The power & thermal envelope of the iPhone (any phone) is a massive constraint, if the iPhone had better cooling & a much bigger battery, i bet it would run far better.
No body stopping apple from providing better cooling like other Android phones
@@INFINITY-f1m Few android phones have amazing cooling, no one buys them.
I guess you're right, why does apple want to sell so many phones, they should be making super niche phones and sell them at low volumes.
@@Winston-1984 you know that $300 dollar Android phones have better cooling than iphone
72% of the total world population use Android
Impressive but shame its so much worse than ps4 they should have ported games like mgs5 and resident evil 7 first instead of games like these
It runs mirage at 30fps while ps4 can’t
@@ttghhgg1918 what mirage hasnt even released on ios and runs at a rock solid 1080p 30 on ps4 while none of the tripple A ports like death stranding manage to run at a stable 30fps on iphone with much worse visuals
@@xtr.7662 iPhone is 200grams while ps4 is 3kilos with a fan n sink which is 2kilo Apple is doing that in 2watts while ps4 does it on 150watts
@@ttghhgg1918 who cares its cool that its on iphone but the performance is terrible based on the iphone specs i expected better
So a 3.5k laptop has the same gpu power in gaming as a 2060 in a well optimized game . How is this impressive
If someone from 2024 told 7-year-old me back in 2002, that a device the size of my GBA that I loved so much could render real time visuals designed for games consoles two generations ahead of what I was used to, I just wouldn't have believed them. Say what you will about the end result, it still blows my mind that games like this can run at all on devices that fit in your pocket.
Considering how fast advancements to mobile chipsets nowadays, I'm not surprised plus the cost of an iphone 15 pro at $1300 (512gb). Still impressive nonetheless.
Give them 5 more years and iphones will outperfrom consoles.
@@TargaryenACEhh.. The next gen consoles should be out by then. But you never know.
lol no they wont. you know consoles get better too?@@TargaryenAC
@@Synthonize-p1s The technical gap betwen console generation will be minimal going forward, it already is btw.
I got it for the iPhone and despite the blurryness and frame drop it was still enjoyable, played it with a backbone during a flight. No matter what it’s to be expected to be a lesser version than the ps4 but at least they charged 20 bucks instead of the full 60 like what Nintendo did with mortal kombat. It’s only gonna improve from here, it’s still exciting to see Apple slowly embracing the gaming side. And now matter how you look at it, it’s still really cool that we’ve reached to the point where we can play console titles on our phones. It’s not perfect but this would’ve been impossible only couple years ago
can i use the hubble telescope to play on my phone?
Don't care what anyone says - I think this is still incredibly impressive to be running at reasonable framerate on a phone.
And for all your FPS snobs, I say "reasonable framerate" meaning that the entire game isn't locked to 1 FPS with crippling audio stuttering and major graphical errors.
Nice job, Oliver. As a DF Patreon supporter, I have been enjoying getting to know you better as you have been on the team for a while now. And I feel like you’ve been consistently opening up and letting your personality shine through more and more. And I’m really happy to see that. Glad you’re here as part of the DF crew :)
good job boy
Welcome to te club console gamers, you guys are finally experiencing what we PC gamers had to endure with for almost a decade, it's finally nice to be able to both agree when resolution, textures and fps matter
But like you always say "30fps is more cinematic" right guys?
It is so stupidly amazing seeing games like these running on a freaking phone. Damn
This Freaking phone cost fortune. Computer that cost 20 times less runs it better. So not really amazing
@@dzenacs2011 ?
This comment is very stupid, all apple products are terribly overpriced, that shoudn't be even pointed out. And is isn't an argument on ANYTHING, since it WORKS and people made apple the most rich company in the world. And especially shouldn't be an argument against a device as little as a phone, with no cooling, no font, no fans, no size, running the game i played on my ps5 and my pc.
It is impressive. I shoudn't have to draw it for you.
@@gabrielsemipro vr is impressive. This is not
@@dzenacs2011 bruh, you are impressive
iPhone : how much GB space needed ?
overhyped walking simulator. If an indie dev made it nobody would care but KoJiMa must be good..
iphone 15 A bionic completly destroy the weak tegra of the switch, its time nintendo
@@KarmaWillCatchEveryone but nintendo don't need to put a 5G modem, extra micros for calls, camera, and a lot of stuff, only a better cpu
@@KarmaWillCatchEveryonedoes 5 times the stuff as well. You will also use it far more everyday.
It is time nintendo for 300p aaa gaming. Naw man, even the steam deck is pretty bad at playing newer games.
Wow, that looks like sh!t. There's no other way to describe it. Even if you can, doesn't mean you should.
I was impressed... By then I remembered the PS4 is a 2013 hardware... Now this is impressive for the PS4, actually.
Hell no, 65 inch tv and console or pc is the way to go!
Or a 65 inch tv and a PC, don't forget us PC gamers.
@@Nucleosynthese sorry you're right! I corrected it👍
@@jack_knife-1478 haha :P
I’m playing on a M2 MAX MBP 14’, wide 1440p, MetalFX temporal ultra and max settings. While I left the Metal HUD on it was staying between 60 and 90 FPS. Although I saw it deep in the high 50s once or twice. Now I don’t have the HUD on, I played for around 40 hours on an external monitor with VRR. It’s been a great experience, as good as my 150 hours on PS5 and better than my 350 hours on PS4 Pro. (No kidding 😂)
I also played 4/5 hours on Steam Deck and for some reason I didn’t feel compelled to go back continuing the game while I can’t wait to go back playing on Mac. 🤣
My 2 cents. Cheers and happy gaming.
Sorry but those differences are massive and obvious. The iphone is so low res conpared to the ps4 and the detail reduction is huge! And when you say simplified waterfall animation... what animation? Looks forzen to me. I like DF because they tell it like it is without biased or a leaning. Almost seems paid ad territory
He pointed out the low resolution, which is most of the reason for detail reduction. And there was the bare minimum of animation on the waterfall, you just weren't looking close enough
While there is a considerable difference, at least from what I can see, I still find it impressive to see it running on an iPhone, even though I don't own one myself.