Stephanie Bohn That’s exactly why I said the school is good for some people while in other cases it isn’t. Just like any other university. Also no ones opinion or preference is contingent upon your approval.
@@Rachelvalee I went to PCC for one semester from September 2001 until December. I grew up in an extremely conservative and modest backgrounds. My family owned and ran a strict Christian School. I got so many demerits while attending there within a matter of 4 months that I almost had too many to continue going to college there. I am not rebellious and I'm extremely modest myself, and I would get demerits for my skirt "hugging" my backside too much or my shirts would "cup" up under my chest too much. I tried my absolute best to wear appropriate clothing, even had my parents send me new clothes because I was never able to find clothing that fit the requirements in Pensacola, which was extremely difficult anyway to do because we weren't allowed off campus very much. I'm glad I went, if even for a short time because the experience I had with other girls my age and the relationships that I bonded over meant so much to me. But I wasn't able to continue going and I reached that decision with peace, and so did my family.
I’m no student but I work there in the distribution center and me working in warehouses this is a unique warehouse this school is a cult and I literally just got off and something told me to look up the rule book these are grown people who can’t do anything let alone watch tv listen to music let alone wear what they want to wear OFF campus the students don’t talk at all they don’t even pull out their phones nobody cracks jokes or anything they even seem socially awkward Even the men that are over the warehouse seem to be men that use god and church as a ploy to be around young people I’m sorry that is not college that is a cult ain’t no way I’m 23 and you gone tell me what I CANT DO WHEN IM AWAY FROM THE SCHOOL
Now, opposite of when I was there from F90-S92, the rules are greatly relaxed. But back then, the school was definitely NOT preparing students to go out into the real world. It's like they assumed that everyone who graduated from there would work at Christian schools or be housewives. I know people who graduated from there who had a really hard time once they graduated and had to find jobs working with people who didn't know how sheltered they had been. I was used to being an adult before I went there, maybe that was my problem. I had a year of public college where I took 20 hours, a full time job, and was used to being responsible for myself. So when I went to PCC the rules were trifling to say the least. Like women being forced to wear hose anytime not in the dorm or in a pe class or at the beach (which we could only go to in groups of 5 with either a prayer leader or assistant prayer leader in the group). That was a HUGE waste of money for female students.
I’m not even a student there I just work in the distribution center but that place is weird it is a cult and there is no way those grown adults believe that controlling them and every aspect of their lives is the way to god lol
Current PCC student here. The social dynamic is so weird and you can’t do anything without feeling like you’ll “get in trouble”. I’d love to transfer somewhere else tbh.
I’m glad you found at least some redeeming value in PCC. I attended 3 semesters in 1988-89 (yeah, the dark pre-internet age😅). During those 3rd semesters & ever since I’ve described it as a hybrid of military boot camp & Jonestown without the cool aid! I’m sure the admin went crazy when mobile internet arrived since they couldn’t control everything students saw. FYI-about 25% of my freshman class didn’t return for the 2nd semester. Another 25% didn’t return for sophomore year. You could always tell the attrition rate by how quickly the balcony emptied. The admin takes for pride in the expulsion & drop rate vs the graduation rate. Pitiful😡
A parents perspective: my daughter got her nursing degree at PCC. She is debt free because of the low cost, she got a great job because of the schools excellent reputation, she was safe there because of their rules( tho I agree with the imbalance applied to men versus women when it comes to punishment for rule breaking!!)and the whole system is set up to help a student succeed. When rules got tough for her I reminded her it’s only 4 years and you can last to be out of debt and there are many times in life you’ll have to work in environment s you don’t like so by staying your building character.She saw the value in not having a 100 thousand dollar bill attached to her for years and I appreciate her willingness to see the sacrifices we all made as a family to get her the best education for the least amount of money anywhere. I do appreciate your acknowledgment about the good along with your complaints.
Totally agreed. Hated some of the legalistic views BUT graduated nursing school there in 1986. Was almost debt free. Have had a wonderful RN life ever since. I then became an attorney and now a Red Cross RN. I have gratitude for this. Donna, speaking as one of those girls who was so supported by their moms, thank you.
June Fox Thankyou! As far as the legalism goes I liked to remind my daughter that the school is not a church, it’s a business so rules are anything they deemed necessary to get things done with as little drama as possible. All the in all I highly recommend the school .
right? men are punished way more with more severity for way less important rules than women are. i was kicked out for not shaving and i knew a girl who was allowed to stay after having been caught sleeping with a dude off campus lol
Hey! Just wanna say I really appreciate your fair review. It was nice to hear someone voice things they didn’t prefer without bashing the school. I will say, though, having been a student there for the last five years, I’ve learned that just because it’s not announced that the college punished someone for inappropriate posts, doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. I hadn’t heard about that specific instance, but many times I find out later that there’s always another side to a story (not just in regards to PCC) and I realize it was handled without everyone knowing. ;) (also, idk who threatened you with demerits for your shoes, but I’m 90% sure that wouldn’t have held up in Student Life. Haha. I’m so sorry that happened!)
Hey y’all Jesus is coming soon please repent God bless, God loves you and has a plan for you. Here is a prayer that you can say to repent, I am sorry for all my sins, and I repent of them all. I give you my life today, and I confess my faith in your Son Jesus Christ that he is Lord. I believe that Jesus died and resurrected to give me eternal life; I confess my faith in him, and I accept him as my personal Lord and Savior. ❤️🙏🏾❤️🙏🏾Repentance isn’t a one time thing it’s a everyday thing💜
Sadly, the leadership of Pensacola Christian College (PCC) and their Campus Church (on the property of PCC) have a snobby, intolerant, unforgiving, hateful spirit toward anyone who dares to question their doctrine or policies. I live in Pensacola. I attended Campus Church for a few months in 2021, but learned quickly that their senior pastor Jeff Redlin is not a nice man. I kindly told Pastor Redlin that my former wife sadly divorced me 15 years earlier in 2006, and that after all these years of loneliness, I hoped to find a woman at Campus Church to remarry. He immediately condemned me, scolding me for daring to even consider remarriage. He told me in front of his own wife that if I did find a woman, he refused to perform the wedding. I felt so despised and unwanted as a new church member. In truth, I never asked him to perform any wedding. The guy freaked out about the issue! The sad truth is that PCC are out of touch with reality, and they don't know how to treat people (and sadly don't want to learn). People don't care what you KNOW, until they know that you CARE. There is no permissive will of God at PCC, you must live a perfect life or else you will be on the outside looking in at Campus Church. PCC are a bunch of academic types who woefully lack God's compassion for people. I came to Campus Church as a 54 year old divorced man with a broken life and a hurting soul. Jeff Redlin mistreated me in his self-righteous pride. The way that you treat people matters! I was very nice to everyone at Campus Church and PCC. At PCC you will need to walk a fine line if you attend their school, dotting your i's and crossing your t's, or else they will quickly reject and ostracize you. Pastor Jeff Redlin made me feel dejected as a human being. After I left Campus Church in frustration, I was sad and lonely over the next several months, missing the friends I had made at PCC's church. So in June and July of 2022, I wrote three separate letters, pleading respectfully for forgiveness from pastor Jeff Redlin, assistant pastor Timothy Zacharias, Campus Church and PCC for offending them in 2021. I humbly offered to do whatever they require to make peace with them. They waited six weeks to finally respond! That is how horrible they abuse people! And when Pastor Redlin did finally reply on August 2nd, 2022 to my June 17th, 2022 letter, he hypocritically said that I was forgiven, but since I had made "consequential" remarks against them on social media, they would NOT allow me to attend Campus Church anymore. I was heart broken. That is not God's love! That is not Bible Christianity. That is hatred, a religious cult, an institution that only cares about making more money, and doesn't care or have any compassion for hurting people. Mr. Redlin gets paid a very lucrative 6-digit salary! Religious crime pays well. Once you offend the gods at PCC, it's over, you're out! There are no second chances, no love, no understanding, no reconciliation, just the exit door! At PCC they offer a superficial type of forgiveness on paper (to protect their public image), which doesn't include actually forgiving a person enough to allow them to attend church services (which is everyone's right as a child of God). Even though I promised to remove all my criticisms from social media, with the understanding that they would let me come back to Campus Church, they still refused. It is shameful how Jeff Redlin and Timothy Zacharias hold grudges, discard hurting people and play God with people's lives. Pensacola Christian College is a religious cult! Campus Church finished the fiscal year 2020 with $1,200,000 left in the bank (their yearly income was $3,500,000). Yet, when I attended Campus Church they required church members to pay $10 to attend a meeting on how to more effectively share the Gospel. That is pathetic! With all that cheddar in the bank, they still want people to pay $10 to learn how to share the Gospel more effectively. That speaks volumes about PCC's horribly wrong attitude toward Bible truth, getting lost sinners saved and the love of money. I could go on about some of the problems with Campus Church and PCC, the worst being that they are arrogant and refuse to hear any constructive criticisms. They will chop your head off like a turkey on Thanksgiving Day if you dare to question the gods who run PCC. They have a false humility. I say this all kindly with Christ's unconditional love. I have been praying for the PCC camp, that they will see the errors of their horrible selfish ways, and welcome me back to attend their church (as I am still humbly begging them). I don't agree with some things doctrinally at PCC, but I miss my friends. Sadly, the Christian army is the only army in the world that kills its wounded. All I want is to attend Campus Church, but Jeff Redlin and PCC leadership still refuse. I don't recommend PCC for young people. The only reason I want to go back to Campus Church is because I still have some friends there, whom I miss and love. Leadership is hateful at PCC, who selectively only care about people with money. Dear prospective student, please search Google for the umpteen PCC students who have been mistreated, expelled, banned from graduating and treated like garbage by PCC leadership, before you end up a victim too. Look before you leap! If you want a GREAT Bible college, check out Commonwealth Baptist College in Lexington, KY (they are a citywide soulwinning church and Bible college, but PCC is not. Also, PCC denies that the King James Bible is inspired, but Commonwealth Baptist College teaches that the King James Bible is inspired). PCC can only train you to be a religious academic, but you won't grow into the soulwinning, people-loving, real human being that God desires for you to be. If you want to become a religious robot that hates, rejects and refuses to give a second chance to those who offend you, as they are doing to me right now, then PCC is your vice. I speak from the heart. People just want to be loved. I have four adult children of my own. Do you really want to attend a religious college with those kind of people running things? Do you want them influencing you spiritually? Do you really want to become like them? My name is David J. Stewart. I graduated from Hyles-Anderson College (1985-1993) with a degree in Pastoral Theology. I have no regrets and love my home college and Pastor Jack Hyles (1926-2001). But I wouldn't recommend HAC today, because they have horribly changed for the worse since 2008, now denying the inspiration of the King James Bible. The infamous atheist Voltaire said: “The Bible is not the inspired, inerrant and 100% historically true words of God. ...If we would destroy the Christian religion, we must first of all destroy man’s belief in the Bible.” -Voltaire (French philosopher, 1694-1778) It is vitally important that you only attend a Bible college that actually believes we have an inspired Holy Bible today. God only authored One Book, not hundreds! Dr. Hyles loved his enemies and gave people second chances, and third, and fourth, et cetera. Jesus called Judas (who betrayed Him), "Friend." Either you love everyone or else you love no one. You won't learn that at PCC, you will learn to hate those who offend you, and to reject them. Something is very wrong with the leadership at Campus Church and PCC. Hey, ask them about me at Campus Church and PCC. They hate my guts (although they won't admit it), but I love them with God's love. They're mad at me because I dared to criticize their pastor on social media (because PCC sinfully bids Godspeed to the Bob Jones University cult who preach Lordship Salvation). I'm only human. It doesn't matter that I am trying to make peace with PCC, or that I have apologized to all of them repeatedly at PCC, or that I promised them to do what I can to make things right with PCC, they still REFUSE to welcome me back. I will make peace with them anytime they choose. Please don't let them get away with their hatred, by rewarding them for ostracizing hurting people like me, forbidding me from attending Campus Church. They are behaving like a cult, not God's children. Something is WRONG with these people at PCC! There is no love in that place. I certainly don't blame anyone for leaving PCC. I too made friends there, and I had a few good times, but you are constantly overshadowed by an abusive group of intolerant leaders who have zero compassion once you offend them. They will turn on you in a heartbeat. God forbid you should ever criticize PCC leaders on social media, which was my downfall. They will not forgive you, even though they will say they do. They have banned me from attending Campus Church. That is NOT God's forgiveness. Thank you for reading. = -)
Their assistant pastor kicked me out of his church when he was the head pastor at a church in Connecticut. Why? Well, in large part because I got into a discussion with the deacon about Calvinism and I didn't agree totally with their views. Keep in mind that I am not a Calvinist, and have never been a Calvinist; and John Calvin was known to have been a pretty nasty character; but the lesson from that for we Protestants should be not to allow doctrine to override a sense of Grace for your fellow Christians. There is such a thing as right doctrine, but none of us can know it 100%. If we could, we could also save ourselves (but we can't). 'Anyway, this man, who is now assistant pastor at Pensacola Christian College, and his then deacon, were so focused on hating Calvinists (though they themselves subscribed to one of his doctrines: 'Once saved, always saved') and anyone who read anything other than the original King James, that they allowed under their 'watch', two really bad scandals to happen (in which I was not involved; thank God!). That was the situation when Tim Zacharias left this church to become assistant pastor to Jeff Redlin. But before he left, he kicked me out. No problem. I moved to another town in Connecticut and found another church home, too. Anyway, I know what you mean! Let's pray for Pastors Redlin and Zacharias. Imho, Independent Baptists, and Baptists in general, have the closest to what is right doctrinal views, but only God Himself (and His Son, of course) can be 100% on doctrine; and it's a trap to allow yourself to become rude and cruel and blind to wrongdoing over it. Let us all instead be more thankful for being (ahem) 'redeemed sinners' (through Christ, of course), and pray for each other to that effect. Amen.
So I went to PCC for a year in 2007 and I've been thinking about doing a video like this cause I've had so many of the relationships from there that have lasted and so amazing because what we went through. I'm officiating my freshman college roommate`s wedding. I hate the school with a passion but I love people, the people away from the legalism of the school are fine. The school itself should be illegal. I helped a girl get on the internet at Panera and got "socialled" because my speech teacher saw me talking to her. I went to my grandmothers funeral and they tried to kick me out....I have so many sour tastes in my mouth for this place
I graduated from PCC in 2019. There are definitely some things I agree with you about. 1: I loved prayer group, but my last semester there I worked at 5:30am as a cook in varsity for the breakfast shift on Tuesday and Thursday, so on Monday night I had to stay up until 11 and get up at 4:30-5. I wish I could have had an exception for that (of course I guess I couldn’t as an APL 😂) 2: I was affected by the attendance policy as well. I didn’t miss enough to completely fail the class but by the time the grade was deducted it was a D+ and I needed a C- to pass. So I had to retake it. 😔 What drew me to the school, though, was this: I went and visited as a high school senior during one of their college days events and I still to this day remember sitting in chapel and Dr. Shoemaker saying, “We are praying for all of you who are making the decision on where to go to college. We pray the Lord brings you here, but we know not everyone goes here. If He doesn’t lead you here, we still pray that God leads you where He wants you to go.” That really touched me because I could tell Dr. Shoemaker really cared for the students there and I felt appreciated. I loved my 4 years there. I know it’s not for everyone. But it’s a great school for those who can handle it!
I gotta say, I'm really pleased with how you presented everything. I was thinking it might be a bashing session, but I was pleasantly surprised. I'm a senior who took a year off, and am going back in the fall, and I'll be the first to say that not place is perfect, and PCC has cons for sure, some which are more severe in others. However, what you said is true, it's a place where you make some of the best memories you have. I think what makes the difference is whether someone is going because of money, beliefs, ease, location, rather than someone who realizes or believes that God has called them there for a purpose. If you attend and don't have a purpose, or equate rules to being a christian, you'll eventually get some high demerits 😂
they did a college advertisement thing at my school & tbh they seemed fun until you start reading abt them as a whole & they seemed cultish 😂 that’s coming from someone who went/goes to a christian school
Sameee they just did one for my school today it was some dude and his wife the school seemd great my my mom went to Christian schools and they took a trip there and she’s said the vibe was a little off but it was ok
I am not a student I literally started working there 3 weeks ago in the distribution center nobody talks nobody jokes around it is not the working environment I’m use to especially it being a warehouse and my first words were this seems more of a cult than a college and I literally jus got off and looked up they rules and that shit screams cult
Prayers group was rough. I was a nursing student and had to be up before 5:30am for clinicals. I would be so dead by 9:30pm and would have to set an alarm for prayer group. I liked it when PG was in our room so I didn’t actually have to leave my bed! 😂
i went to pca. if you are: black or person of color, a female, or queer you are not the priority for this company (remember it’s a company)i dropped out cuz it gave me a nervous breakdown where i would be crying till 2 am every night doing projects studying and homework (there were only a couple a honor roll and only a few a/b honor roll students in my grade on year, theres usually not many cuz it’s so hard there but jeez)
girl i’m glad you got out of there lmao i went to pca from k4-8th grade and i could not imagine being the same person i am today if i stayed any longer
God commands women dress in shamefaced modesty so men look upon them as sisters in all purity. We must help guard their thoughts. Praise God, Pensacola emphasizes this. When I was in Bible college years ago, you never heard of sexual harassment. This is horrendous. The guy needed to be expelled immediately and reported to the police.
I was homeschooled for 6th grade. So we drove to PCC to buy Abeka books. My mom, sister, and I had to wear skirts just to go in the bookstore. I thought that was crazy to require that off visitors.
i’m currently in the 7th grade at PCA and personally just from visiting PCC they are so overbearing and can’t take others opinions.They think theirs are superior and take it too far
thank you for your video; i am planning on going to PCC and this was very helpful. i really liked the way you presented it with both the pros and cons. :)
1. Prayer group (a couple of days per week, from 10:25pm to 11pm) 2. Priorities 3. Mixed groups/physical contact with the opposite gender 4. Attendance policy
I attended a Fundamental Baptist church in the early 90s when I was stationed at an Air Force Base in Louisiana. I was invited there by a very devout Christian. The people were pretty friendly overall, but some a little odd and socially awkward. I was raised Southern Baptist, green, and thought a Baptist was a Baptist. I was a little befuddled with all the women wearing dresses or skirts, the strange Stepford wife behavior with some of them, and nothing but King James Bible’s. Anyway, many kids from the church went to PCC. I had no idea they were this strict. Bottom line, a lot of the people in the IFB movement are great, but it’s very cultish in a lot of ways. Any church that imposes rules and legalism and a rigid is a red flag. We’re called to live in his love, grace, and forgiveness!
If you attended PCC, I am doing a documentary on the varying experiences of the students from the 70s through today. If you want to share your story, please get in touch by responding to this post. Thx - Maria
Christian colleges and universities have rules in place to protect the students both spiritually and physically. Some rules, naturally, are in place to protect the institution. Before attending any college or university it is imperative to read every word of their student handbook. Most schools require each student to sign a statement that he or she has read the handbook and agrees to abide by the institution's policies. Remember that rules can be a positive character builder, if we are willing to live within their bounds. God has allowed many different Christian college and university choices to exist because He knows we are different in our needs and desires. Spend time in prayer, seek the counsel of your parents, pastor, wise spiritual leaders in your congregation and most trusted friends when seeking out a place to receive academic and spiritual training by which to live out your adult life, as you serve our Lord Jesus Christ.
Oh, I'm sure that scrutinizing her clothes when she came back from the hospital, lowering her grade because she had cramps, or forbidding guys to escort their female friends to make sure they don't get raped _totally_ protected her _both spiritually and physically_ /sarcasm
Good for you. I went to PCA from ‘95 to May ‘06 and everything was so controlling. I loved the level of education I received, but the level of brainwashing far surpassed this. I don’t know how many times my parents had to correct instructors for trying to control me. I had a racist teacher in the fifth grade 🤦🏾♀️. I can’t imagine dealing with this at PCC.
@@Random_Fox628 yeah, there was a lot of sketchy stuff that happened over my years there that one could take as cultish. In recent years, they purchased the road that ran through a portion of PCC’s campus, blocking off their campus and surrounding houses into a compound. The education I got was great, but not at the expense of the things I went through.
@@Cloud9crown Wow that's crazy. I have pretty high tolerance, and might be able to stay there for a year. My parents just want me to go there so badly.
You confirmed my statements ive made about it being a cult see I don’t go to school there or nothing I jus work in their book warehouse and years before I can member that you were able to ride thru that section of the school and since it has been blocked off from one side I always wonder is those house behind belong to them or something but now it makes sense it seems as if they are making that a sacred ground that the outside world can’t come in and don’t want the outside world around them when I’m at work I literally be wondering why these people look so closed off from real life and seem socially awkward the girls don’t talk the guys don’t even joke around like they would in a normal warehouse setting I never knew much about this place bc I’m not from Pensacola but last 3 weeks working there have really been interesting just by observing and I’m a guy that is tatted up fully and they look at me like an oddball while I’m there I said it 3 days in that that place is a cult not a college
I was there one summer to work before starting the first semester. I lasted 2 weeks. My high school youth pastors drove down from Virginia and got me out of there. They thought it was a cult.
I have heard that about the late night requirement, it is not good when some students have to get up early. It’s not good for people to not get enough sleep and promotes getting sick. And the double standard of men is not right. They are to be leaders, not get a pass. The fact that they focused on the sweatpants at ALL when you had been hurt was absolutely ridiculous. I knew of a student whose brother was going overseas as a missionary and they didn’t want to let him leave for two days over the weekend to say goodbye. Crazy stuff like that, change it. It is not living by grace and promotes the law and phariseeical behavior. I know there may be many positives but an excess of control is just wrong, a girl should be able to ask for someone to accompany her in the dark and to think everyone has evil motives just because they are a man (or woman) is messed up. Praying for all.
I was there for two years and my second year I got suspended because I decided to make a microwave dinner after 11 because I was working all day and had not one to stop for dinner or else my computer would get taken away by someone else. The RA told me that it was fine and would give me only a warning and then found out that he actually wrote me up behind my back and decided to not tell me that I had a bunch of demerits till the end if the semester.
Saw your video I never been there myself but I have known many people who have studied at Pensacola Christian college and have led on in their life to do great things for the Lord Jesus Christ. Being a Christian is not an easy thing but the Bible says I can do all things in Christ with strengthens me. I do not disagree with rules and regulations because they are there for your protection from the devil who is constantly about his work of destroying a Christian. I respect your opinions God bless you greatly
Genuinely why do any of you go to a school that isn’t regionally accredited? You won’t find any high paying jobs, or get into any decent graduate schools because they don’t even see it as an actual college….
I am a current student at PCC and they have laid off on the prayer groups. Now we have to only go on Thursdays at 10:30. Monday and Tuesday are optional. They changed the shorts rule for guys and they have to wear longer shorts. They created a 3+ pass now so we can meet guys off campus.
I went to a high school like this and let me tell you I RAN out of there as soon as I graduated. The rules they have are not realistic and don’t prepare you for the real world. It’s also not a way you should be treating GROWN adults.
@@Rachelvalee yeah, my roomie is a prayer leader this semester, and bc of covid, we can set them any time of the week, and people are not even forced to come. Obv we end up with really small prayer groups...
@@jasonlabrecque8852 As much as I loved my small group, I'm really upset that it was optional. But then again, when I graduated, the following year they allowed headphones which was soooo upsetting. Lol
5:01 - I would have a HUGE problem with that rule. I am a hugger by nature, and I always greet female friends with a hug. If I would get into trouble for simply doing that, then that would probably be a showstopper for me. That is, I would choose a different college to attend.
I went to a school considered a party school. However, for summer bridge, we had the same rules you guys have. Summer bridge was a program where you took care of 2 classes during the summer. We were required to live on campus and we had rules such as; only girls on the 2nd floor, must attend all classes (attendance not optional), must attend cluster meetings, cannot eat with parents (not even at the fast food place across the dorms, parents may only visit you in the lobby), cannot go back to dorms during the school day, must attend residence hall meetings, cannot call significant other, cannot have computer, cannot have cell phones, cannot have your car (must leave car at home), breakfast is optional but free. The number of times I caught people doing things against the rules. I never told on anyone though. I believe someone even had a computer in her room. "Surprised pickachu face".
What’s wrong with eating with your parents??? And why couldn’t you call your SO? You’re just talking. Why couldn’t you have a phone or PC? Why couldn’t you bring a car? Was it a parking thing (hopefully)?
@@Agmolly I could not stop thinking about your questions about how come you couldn't go eat with your parents. I guess because you might say oh I'm gonna go eat with my parents right across the street and then go home, which wasn't allowed. I guess you could not call your SO because it was considered a distraction. And you couldn't take your car because you might leave campus (which was not allowed). I mean we had fun anyway. We knew what we were signing up for, actually I didn't but it went well though, it's not like we were tortured or anything.
I was just curious and started watching your clip. That prayer group thing? Bob Jones back in the 70s! You HAD to stay up for prayer group and you HAD to get up at 7, even if you didn't have class. I needed more than 8 hours sleep. It was a real problem, and I ended up with a medical problem and a term off. And pants? It was no pants except for gym back then. Dating Parlour. Yep. Yep. Yep. I stayed a few years. Great academics. Some great profs. BUT, nope. Didn't stay to graduate. Demerits? How about White Glove twice a year, too... FIVE people to a room. (Two and a half closets. Only 2 desks. A 3 bunk and a 2 bunk.) Finally got A/C just before I left. I think BJU has gone liberal, LOL; but it sounds as if PCC is like the OLD BJU. BTW, that monthly thing? If you were not in the hospital, you had to be in class.I actually passed out in a lecture hall. I had to pick myself up and get myself to "Barge." That meant lying on the skinny exam table at Barge Hospital from 8-dinner time. Oh, there was an epidemic once. They turned the entire Georgia Creel dorm into an infirmary. The sick people had to move in and the well people were temporarily displaced. And you couldn't live off post, except with parents or an adult sibling. Also, couldn't be a student, if you were married, until you were 21. How about them apples! My kids just laughed when they got the PCC application and that booklet about work on campus. I think they realized it was ridiculous and stopped using it! I love A Beka though! Best home school program ever! Thanks for sharing!
Attended from 2012-2016. Stopped singing the doxology 3 weeks into school because it was way to cultish. For the first time in 8 years, I allowed the words to leave my lips. Also. To those of you saying you can choose to go there and the rules are outlined and yada yada ... with so many rules and so many people allowed to police them, it’s IMPOSSIBLE to execute with ABSOLUTE fairness. I had been accused of doing something when in actuality, the individual had the wrong black girl. She even called me a liar. Meanwhile, her ignorance was the true and only problem in the scenario. Also, while it may be a choice, PCC is literally dirt cheap for an excellent education, so for some people, the price tag of other schools makes it near impossible to go with any other school but PCC. I highly associate with your priorities point. Also, sexism is literally everywhere. Definitely getting better, but not fast enough, considering I graduated 4 years ago.
I work there been there for 3 weeks I’m not into none of that stuff jus a man that was called about a job opportunity and I took it but since being there it really is cultish and I said that 2 days in I just literally got off and went to look up their rule book out of curiosity and it’s crazy and it is really a cult my first day I was wondering why are people color coordinated in certain areas etc nobody talks to each other at work or anything it is really weird and I get stared at everyday I come to work bc one I have a old school nice car that’s loud and fixed up then I have tattoos covering both my arms to where u see no skin and I’m sure they are not use to seeing a guy like me at all
Yo just want to check in here and say that if you want to go a conservative Christian college, but don’t want to deal with a lot of the aforementioned garbage at PCC, check out the Baptist College of Florida. I just graduated from BCF and I would recommend it so much more than PCC.
pcc is affordable, the only positive thing about it HOWEVER that’s what these people look for…. vulnerable people who want an education and don’t have the money. They prey on low income kids to go there for the fun surfing thing, rock climbing wall, and an affordable education. Would never recommend.
Great video! I grew up with a lot people who attended. More people should speak up so others don’t end up wasting their time and money and supporting them
my sister and best friend got demerits because they passed a boy. We had gone to school with since kindergarten and they said hello to each other. they were accused of conspiring to meet off-campus or some nonsense.
PCC has let up on some of the rules since I was there based on this (but not too much lol). Finished every semester with between 75 and 85 demerits, so I would be campused for exactly one day-the day we weren't allowed to leave until after we passed white glove anyway. Fun game for anyone who's thinking of going.
Honestly? I went for 4.5 years. The cool thing is, you don't have to go. If you choose to go, and it's not your cup of tea, then don't. Plus as she said, the pathway is given before you go. I totally agree with the prayer group time. I wanted to be in bed by 9 pm, especially if I had a 730 class. I loved PG, I just hated the time. Also when I graduate, I totally hugged all my guy friends. And def hugged them before Christmas vacation. Never had an issue, but as she said, it's who you're around. Some of them are def power-driven, while others were pretty chill. Not gonna lie, that attendance policy saved me because I am generally am a lazy person and like my sleep. But also agree because I had terrible migraines, but I knew that it would be gone within an hour, so it didn't make sense to go to the Graf clinic just for a one-hour migraine. The little rules, thank Jesus, were given to me by my senior roommate and when I became senior roommate, I made sure to help my freshies so they didn't fall into the silly rule loopholes. I wish some of my intense rule-keeping RAs would have popped in though with my one roommate though. At one point we found rotting ramen in her bed. It was vile.
I could NEVER go there because im a christian with asd and extreme sensory issues to clothing and I wear sweatpants 24/7 7 days a week and just the thought of wearing a skirt everyday would make me wanna turn into a boy. That dress code man, most christian churches today let women wear pants and sneakers to church but this college..it asks too much from ppl. Why make your life more ugly, uncomfortable and miserable than it has to be?!
As a R.N. AND A PARENT BALANCE IS ESSENTIAL FOR THE IMMUNE SYSTEM. The females ARE ALWAYS put last on the list. The fact that they DID NOT GO ABOVE AND BEYOND when you were sick. Makes me BEYOND ANGRY. You are precious. Godspeed.
b.rose oh I’ve already went it was so so so fun. Love the campus and everyone there. I know I’m only 13 but I’m low key thinking about going there for collage.
Savannah Brown 13? So you’ve got like a while left, but time rly flies tbh... continue to think/pray it over! The main reason I went to pcc was bc I got into their singing traveling group and was a work student so it helped me out
When did you go? I was just a freshman and I didn’t feel like it was a big deal to walk alone with someone of the opposite gender. Also I hate the attendance policy
I went in the fall semester of 2019. And I never actually got in trouble with student life for it but you definitely can’t walk around in unsupervised areas together.
I'll be honest, I'm a junior at PCC. They are slowly coming up to times, but the rules are a fair problem. Unfortunately, I think the issue here is they are the extremity of stereotypical naive Baptists. I have to give them credit for their intent, just the execution of it is a little much. They are learning though.
I know it's too late to tell you, and that you might say, "that's not the point" but for cramps what has worked for me is running daily. No, not light yoga, not aerobics, just running and running.
@@gioplanet8089 DO NOT go there. You’ll have absolutely no freedom compared to other colleges. Women and men are segregated, and they send chaperones if you go on a date if you are both under a certain age. Please don’t go to a religious school like this. Religion is something you choose to live by. You’ll be fine going to literally any other college. I beg you please don’t go
@@zellty423 So im a super social guy and obviously talk to all the girls and has a few drinks here and there for fun but then I read the handbook and it seemed like there was no way I was going to be able to talk to girls or do anything. Is that true cause everyone makes it seem like you literally have no freedom and all you do it pray and go to school.
@@Corporal_Jimbob You don’t know freedom unless you go somewhere else. They’re treating students like toddlers, completely isolated and no independence with all of those rules and regulations. If you want to be religious, practice it on your own, no need to stay in this college just because it’s religious. I’m trying to help others who plan on going to PCC, since it’s DEFINITELY not the right school to go to. **I’m not sure if you go there or you just read the handbook, just trying to make things clear
I went to this college for one semester in 2001. I was there when the planes crashed into the twin towers. We weren't allowed to watch any news sources or any television reporting. I didn't even see the actual footage until I went home in December. We weren't even allowed to call our parents. It made an already extremely terrifying and disturbing time be exponentially worse.
I understand where you're coming from and I feel the same way. Just get rid of the ridiculous rules and attitudes and PCC would be the best college to go to. I got along well with all but 2 of my roommates over 9 semesters and got along with my classmates and workmates at the distribution center and DC Annex and liked most of my teachers. But church attendance should not be required and men should be able to have longer hair and grow their beards anytime and women should be allowed to wear pants. And hold people in authority accountable for their words and actions. Then PCC would be a far better college. And allow human beings to touch other human beings. There's nothing wrong with a hug. And women's issues should be considered instead of ignored. I personally didn't like coming back from chapel to see that someone searched my belongings while I was out of my room. Very unChrist like.
I’m so sorry. It’s awful to feel like you don’t have a choice in something that could negatively impact you forever. Can you suggest another Christian college? Or perhaps a community college close by?
I am in the same exact situation. I hate the college already because the students are supposed to snitch on each other. There is probably no privacy or personal rights at all. It is barely accredited even.
There is no perfect college, church family is individual. We are all affected by fall- all sinned there is no good people, not even one Paul writes to Romans. Having said that means there are things P c c can Change but Is it Beneficial? Im sad to hear that you left college before graduation, like demas you left the good path for the world. . I hear the rules were too much for you. I went to a similar college abroad, and the four years in my Christian collage where the things i am most grateful for today 30 years down the Line, remember discipline doesn’t feel good at the moment but its for a our good. If you dont like discipline in life, you are headed the wrong road. I took my daughter to Pcc because i wanted her to learn life is about Christ not us. Listening to you i definitely feel you represent many young people who have been lied to and believed these lies. The lie being - do what you like and what’s comfortable, ma’am you’re a beautiful intelligent girl, i wish i could see you when you’re my age 54 and see what you became snd how your own kids turn out being a free style girl ,no supervision no rules no inconvenience no breaks lifestyle. Water and fire are powerful elements they teach us about need for limits and control and with these they are useful . Im young old now i still need discipline, we all need checks otherwise our fleshly desires will drive us away from the one - the overseer of our souls . Your story has made me very sad, i hope you get back on tract having tasted the water of life, im afraid you’re walking away from whats good. the Okay i just stumbled on your post and decided you had the courage to write so i may as well have you a honest strangers feedback
Hey, Rachel! I understand about the pros and cons of PCC. I attended almost three years. No college/university is perfect, however, secular schools/online schooling is not the worse thing. If you would like me to help you find a better choice of a school, affordable, and everything, message me. :) UoP College Grad '16 - Human Services: Management.
I didn’t want to explain what he said throughly in the fear that RUclips could’ve potentially taken the video down. It also could’ve been triggering towards people who have experienced the terrible things he had posted and I didn’t want to make anyone uncomfortable if that makes sense.
Hey I know another college if you want My best friend has shown Grove City College on LinkedIn. They a lot less strict The place you went to sounds Legalism . He & were discussing in a distant he is willing to pay for my education any Christian college. Yes he & I know this Place hurts Women. The Beach Thing I thought was crazy. I am a sweatpants girl. I d” start over with country college.
This is the same thing as a Christian school im a freshman in a Christian school. This is honestly life. Like okay yea we don't like things but cmon seriously it's just life. The Bible talks abt that in Proverbs about woe is me. Like I'm not being rude or anything but you know it's life
I think I would be ok with the rules, but I have one question. I suffer from colitis, so around 1pm, I usually get bloated. Are you allowed to wear sports pants everyday or do you have to dress professionally everyday?
You’re allowed to wear knee length shorts everyday except for Sunday. But it has to be after a certain time on weekdays. I think the time is 4pm? I can’t specifically remember. And all day on Saturday is ok to wear shorts. But you aren’t allowed to wear them to classes or church. :/
Lol don’t be “ok” with these wacky ass rules, college is the first chance you get to be a true adult, don’t let this weird school still treat you like a 5 year old
A complain channel😢 If u have. Liberated mindset, piercing all over u, not having rules then truly PCC is not for u…. That’s why it’s called Pensacola CHRISTIAN college.
Bruh that’s school sounds so boring and sad really, you can’t hug , kiss, and date. That’s what college is supposed to be about finding yourself and even love and all that jazz. This make it feel like your in high school or even middle school for goodness sake you can’t barley nothing without a chaperone and y’all are adults. I wouldn’t find this type of school fun to go to in my opinion they doing to much. I heard about Christians high school having these type of rules but I couldn’t imagine it’s that deep in a university. It’s a no for me 🙅🏽♀️
You can pretty much do anything as long as you’re married first. Then they can’t tell you squat lol. So a lot of couples end up engaged really quickly which is nuts to see. But yeah there was no way I was finding my soulmate there lol.
They don’t allow you to be an adult. Too many rules. The Lord is your guide and counselor. Too bad.
Stephanie Bohn That’s exactly why I said the school is good for some people while in other cases it isn’t. Just like any other university. Also no ones opinion or preference is contingent upon your approval.
@@Rachelvalee I went to PCC for one semester from September 2001 until December. I grew up in an extremely conservative and modest backgrounds. My family owned and ran a strict Christian School.
I got so many demerits while attending there within a matter of 4 months that I almost had too many to continue going to college there.
I am not rebellious and I'm extremely modest myself, and I would get demerits for my skirt "hugging" my backside too much or my shirts would "cup" up under my chest too much.
I tried my absolute best to wear appropriate clothing, even had my parents send me new clothes because I was never able to find clothing that fit the requirements in Pensacola, which was extremely difficult anyway to do because we weren't allowed off campus very much.
I'm glad I went, if even for a short time because the experience I had with other girls my age and the relationships that I bonded over meant so much to me.
But I wasn't able to continue going and I reached that decision with peace, and so did my family.
I’m no student but I work there in the distribution center and me working in warehouses this is a unique warehouse this school is a cult and I literally just got off and something told me to look up the rule book these are grown people who can’t do anything let alone watch tv listen to music let alone wear what they want to wear OFF campus the students don’t talk at all they don’t even pull out their phones nobody cracks jokes or anything they even seem socially awkward Even the men that are over the warehouse seem to be men that use god and church as a ploy to be around young people I’m sorry that is not college that is a cult ain’t no way I’m 23 and you gone tell me what I CANT DO WHEN IM AWAY FROM THE SCHOOL
You don't realize how messed up some of the rules and restrictions are until you leave that bubble.
Now, opposite of when I was there from F90-S92, the rules are greatly relaxed. But back then, the school was definitely NOT preparing students to go out into the real world. It's like they assumed that everyone who graduated from there would work at Christian schools or be housewives. I know people who graduated from there who had a really hard time once they graduated and had to find jobs working with people who didn't know how sheltered they had been. I was used to being an adult before I went there, maybe that was my problem. I had a year of public college where I took 20 hours, a full time job, and was used to being responsible for myself. So when I went to PCC the rules were trifling to say the least. Like women being forced to wear hose anytime not in the dorm or in a pe class or at the beach (which we could only go to in groups of 5 with either a prayer leader or assistant prayer leader in the group). That was a HUGE waste of money for female students.
I’m not even a student there I just work in the distribution center but that place is weird it is a cult and there is no way those grown adults believe that controlling them and every aspect of their lives is the way to god lol
@@christi8491 I'm honestly surprised they even allow women education.
Current PCC student here. The social dynamic is so weird and you can’t do anything without feeling like you’ll “get in trouble”. I’d love to transfer somewhere else tbh.
Hey can I ask you some questions about the school?
@@Corporal_Jimbob sure
Can I also ask questions ab the school
I have questions too
1. How do female students handle the winter season I pants aren't permitted?
2. Do female students still wear skirts/dresses to the sports centres?
How is it legal to not allow grown adults to leave when they need to. That's jail
That's not true, depending on your definition of "need to".
@@voicevitality7197 even if I change it to WANT TO, it's still wrong
@@ansnfbsknanssshshbsnsndnd5438 snowflake alert! I guess you grew up without parents to guide you.
I’m glad you found at least some redeeming value in PCC. I attended 3 semesters in 1988-89 (yeah, the dark pre-internet age😅). During those 3rd semesters & ever since I’ve described it as a hybrid of military boot camp & Jonestown without the cool aid! I’m sure the admin went crazy when mobile internet arrived since they couldn’t control everything students saw. FYI-about 25% of my freshman class didn’t return for the 2nd semester. Another 25% didn’t return for sophomore year. You could always tell the attrition rate by how quickly the balcony emptied. The admin takes for pride in the expulsion & drop rate vs the graduation rate. Pitiful😡
A parents perspective: my daughter got her nursing degree at PCC. She is debt free because of the low cost, she got a great job because of the schools excellent reputation, she was safe there because of their rules( tho I agree with the imbalance applied to men versus women when it comes to punishment for rule breaking!!)and the whole system is set up to help a student succeed. When rules got tough for her I reminded her it’s only 4 years and you can last to be out of debt and there are many times in life you’ll have to work in environment s you don’t like so by staying your building character.She saw the value in not having a 100 thousand dollar bill attached to her for years and I appreciate her willingness to see the sacrifices we all made as a family to get her the best education for the least amount of money anywhere.
I do appreciate your acknowledgment about the good along with your complaints.
Totally agreed. Hated some of the legalistic views BUT graduated nursing school there in 1986. Was almost debt free. Have had a wonderful RN life ever since. I then became an attorney and now a Red Cross RN. I have gratitude for this. Donna, speaking as one of those girls who was so supported by their moms, thank you.
June Fox Thankyou! As far as the legalism goes I liked to remind my daughter that the school is not a church, it’s a business so rules are anything they deemed necessary to get things done with as little drama as possible. All the in all I highly recommend the school .
right? men are punished way more with more severity for way less important rules than women are. i was kicked out for not shaving and i knew a girl who was allowed to stay after having been caught sleeping with a dude off campus lol
Well, that's one way to look at it.
Hey! Just wanna say I really appreciate your fair review. It was nice to hear someone voice things they didn’t prefer without bashing the school.
I will say, though, having been a student there for the last five years, I’ve learned that just because it’s not announced that the college punished someone for inappropriate posts, doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. I hadn’t heard about that specific instance, but many times I find out later that there’s always another side to a story (not just in regards to PCC) and I realize it was handled without everyone knowing. ;) (also, idk who threatened you with demerits for your shoes, but I’m 90% sure that wouldn’t have held up in Student Life. Haha. I’m so sorry that happened!)
I agree about the shoes! Seems pretty high for something, while (this shows when I went) when you were caught with headphones it was less then 20.
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Sadly, the leadership of Pensacola Christian College (PCC) and their Campus Church (on the property of PCC) have a snobby, intolerant, unforgiving, hateful spirit toward anyone who dares to question their doctrine or policies. I live in Pensacola. I attended Campus Church for a few months in 2021, but learned quickly that their senior pastor Jeff Redlin is not a nice man. I kindly told Pastor Redlin that my former wife sadly divorced me 15 years earlier in 2006, and that after all these years of loneliness, I hoped to find a woman at Campus Church to remarry. He immediately condemned me, scolding me for daring to even consider remarriage. He told me in front of his own wife that if I did find a woman, he refused to perform the wedding. I felt so despised and unwanted as a new church member. In truth, I never asked him to perform any wedding. The guy freaked out about the issue!
The sad truth is that PCC are out of touch with reality, and they don't know how to treat people (and sadly don't want to learn). People don't care what you KNOW, until they know that you CARE. There is no permissive will of God at PCC, you must live a perfect life or else you will be on the outside looking in at Campus Church. PCC are a bunch of academic types who woefully lack God's compassion for people. I came to Campus Church as a 54 year old divorced man with a broken life and a hurting soul. Jeff Redlin mistreated me in his self-righteous pride. The way that you treat people matters! I was very nice to everyone at Campus Church and PCC. At PCC you will need to walk a fine line if you attend their school, dotting your i's and crossing your t's, or else they will quickly reject and ostracize you. Pastor Jeff Redlin made me feel dejected as a human being.
After I left Campus Church in frustration, I was sad and lonely over the next several months, missing the friends I had made at PCC's church. So in June and July of 2022, I wrote three separate letters, pleading respectfully for forgiveness from pastor Jeff Redlin, assistant pastor Timothy Zacharias, Campus Church and PCC for offending them in 2021. I humbly offered to do whatever they require to make peace with them. They waited six weeks to finally respond! That is how horrible they abuse people!
And when Pastor Redlin did finally reply on August 2nd, 2022 to my June 17th, 2022 letter, he hypocritically said that I was forgiven, but since I had made "consequential" remarks against them on social media, they would NOT allow me to attend Campus Church anymore. I was heart broken. That is not God's love! That is not Bible Christianity. That is hatred, a religious cult, an institution that only cares about making more money, and doesn't care or have any compassion for hurting people. Mr. Redlin gets paid a very lucrative 6-digit salary! Religious crime pays well. Once you offend the gods at PCC, it's over, you're out! There are no second chances, no love, no understanding, no reconciliation, just the exit door!
At PCC they offer a superficial type of forgiveness on paper (to protect their public image), which doesn't include actually forgiving a person enough to allow them to attend church services (which is everyone's right as a child of God). Even though I promised to remove all my criticisms from social media, with the understanding that they would let me come back to Campus Church, they still refused. It is shameful how Jeff Redlin and Timothy Zacharias hold grudges, discard hurting people and play God with people's lives. Pensacola Christian College is a religious cult!
Campus Church finished the fiscal year 2020 with $1,200,000 left in the bank (their yearly income was $3,500,000). Yet, when I attended Campus Church they required church members to pay $10 to attend a meeting on how to more effectively share the Gospel. That is pathetic! With all that cheddar in the bank, they still want people to pay $10 to learn how to share the Gospel more effectively. That speaks volumes about PCC's horribly wrong attitude toward Bible truth, getting lost sinners saved and the love of money. I could go on about some of the problems with Campus Church and PCC, the worst being that they are arrogant and refuse to hear any constructive criticisms. They will chop your head off like a turkey on Thanksgiving Day if you dare to question the gods who run PCC. They have a false humility.
I say this all kindly with Christ's unconditional love. I have been praying for the PCC camp, that they will see the errors of their horrible selfish ways, and welcome me back to attend their church (as I am still humbly begging them). I don't agree with some things doctrinally at PCC, but I miss my friends. Sadly, the Christian army is the only army in the world that kills its wounded. All I want is to attend Campus Church, but Jeff Redlin and PCC leadership still refuse. I don't recommend PCC for young people. The only reason I want to go back to Campus Church is because I still have some friends there, whom I miss and love. Leadership is hateful at PCC, who selectively only care about people with money.
Dear prospective student, please search Google for the umpteen PCC students who have been mistreated, expelled, banned from graduating and treated like garbage by PCC leadership, before you end up a victim too. Look before you leap! If you want a GREAT Bible college, check out Commonwealth Baptist College in Lexington, KY (they are a citywide soulwinning church and Bible college, but PCC is not. Also, PCC denies that the King James Bible is inspired, but Commonwealth Baptist College teaches that the King James Bible is inspired). PCC can only train you to be a religious academic, but you won't grow into the soulwinning, people-loving, real human being that God desires for you to be. If you want to become a religious robot that hates, rejects and refuses to give a second chance to those who offend you, as they are doing to me right now, then PCC is your vice.
I speak from the heart. People just want to be loved. I have four adult children of my own. Do you really want to attend a religious college with those kind of people running things? Do you want them influencing you spiritually? Do you really want to become like them? My name is David J. Stewart. I graduated from Hyles-Anderson College (1985-1993) with a degree in Pastoral Theology. I have no regrets and love my home college and Pastor Jack Hyles (1926-2001). But I wouldn't recommend HAC today, because they have horribly changed for the worse since 2008, now denying the inspiration of the King James Bible. The infamous atheist Voltaire said:
“The Bible is not the inspired, inerrant and 100% historically true words of God. ...If we would destroy the Christian religion, we must first of all destroy man’s belief in the Bible.” -Voltaire (French philosopher, 1694-1778)
It is vitally important that you only attend a Bible college that actually believes we have an inspired Holy Bible today. God only authored One Book, not hundreds!
Dr. Hyles loved his enemies and gave people second chances, and third, and fourth, et cetera. Jesus called Judas (who betrayed Him), "Friend." Either you love everyone or else you love no one. You won't learn that at PCC, you will learn to hate those who offend you, and to reject them. Something is very wrong with the leadership at Campus Church and PCC.
Hey, ask them about me at Campus Church and PCC. They hate my guts (although they won't admit it), but I love them with God's love. They're mad at me because I dared to criticize their pastor on social media (because PCC sinfully bids Godspeed to the Bob Jones University cult who preach Lordship Salvation). I'm only human. It doesn't matter that I am trying to make peace with PCC, or that I have apologized to all of them repeatedly at PCC, or that I promised them to do what I can to make things right with PCC, they still REFUSE to welcome me back.
I will make peace with them anytime they choose. Please don't let them get away with their hatred, by rewarding them for ostracizing hurting people like me, forbidding me from attending Campus Church. They are behaving like a cult, not God's children. Something is WRONG with these people at PCC! There is no love in that place. I certainly don't blame anyone for leaving PCC. I too made friends there, and I had a few good times, but you are constantly overshadowed by an abusive group of intolerant leaders who have zero compassion once you offend them. They will turn on you in a heartbeat. God forbid you should ever criticize PCC leaders on social media, which was my downfall. They will not forgive you, even though they will say they do. They have banned me from attending Campus Church. That is NOT God's forgiveness. Thank you for reading. = -)
Since when was the King James Bible inspired? That’s literally a translation
Why would you ask for forgiveness, though or even want to go back?
Geez, Jack Hyles and PCC. You poor guy!
Their assistant pastor kicked me out of his church when he was the head pastor at a church in Connecticut. Why? Well, in large part because I got into a discussion with the deacon about Calvinism and I didn't agree totally with their views. Keep in mind that I am not a Calvinist, and have never been a Calvinist; and John Calvin was known to have been a pretty nasty character; but the lesson from that for we Protestants should be not to allow doctrine to override a sense of Grace for your fellow Christians. There is such a thing as right doctrine, but none of us can know it 100%. If we could, we could also save ourselves (but we can't). 'Anyway, this man, who is now assistant pastor at Pensacola Christian College, and his then deacon, were so focused on hating Calvinists (though they themselves subscribed to one of his doctrines: 'Once saved, always saved') and anyone who read anything other than the original King James, that they allowed under their 'watch', two really bad scandals to happen (in which I was not involved; thank God!). That was the situation when Tim Zacharias left this church to become assistant pastor to Jeff Redlin. But before he left, he kicked me out. No problem. I moved to another town in Connecticut and found another church home, too. Anyway, I know what you mean! Let's pray for Pastors Redlin and Zacharias. Imho, Independent Baptists, and Baptists in general, have the closest to what is right doctrinal views, but only God Himself (and His Son, of course) can be 100% on doctrine; and it's a trap to allow yourself to become rude and cruel and blind to wrongdoing over it. Let us all instead be more thankful for being (ahem) 'redeemed sinners' (through Christ, of course), and pray for each other to that effect. Amen.
So I went to PCC for a year in 2007 and I've been thinking about doing a video like this cause I've had so many of the relationships from there that have lasted and so amazing because what we went through. I'm officiating my freshman college roommate`s wedding. I hate the school with a passion but I love people, the people away from the legalism of the school are fine. The school itself should be illegal. I helped a girl get on the internet at Panera and got "socialled" because my speech teacher saw me talking to her. I went to my grandmothers funeral and they tried to kick me out....I have so many sour tastes in my mouth for this place
I graduated from PCC in 2019. There are definitely some things I agree with you about. 1: I loved prayer group, but my last semester there I worked at 5:30am as a cook in varsity for the breakfast shift on Tuesday and Thursday, so on Monday night I had to stay up until 11 and get up at 4:30-5. I wish I could have had an exception for that (of course I guess I couldn’t as an APL 😂) 2: I was affected by the attendance policy as well. I didn’t miss enough to completely fail the class but by the time the grade was deducted it was a D+ and I needed a C- to pass. So I had to retake it. 😔 What drew me to the school, though, was this: I went and visited as a high school senior during one of their college days events and I still to this day remember sitting in chapel and Dr. Shoemaker saying, “We are praying for all of you who are making the decision on where to go to college. We pray the Lord brings you here, but we know not everyone goes here. If He doesn’t lead you here, we still pray that God leads you where He wants you to go.” That really touched me because I could tell Dr. Shoemaker really cared for the students there and I felt appreciated. I loved my 4 years there. I know it’s not for everyone. But it’s a great school for those who can handle it!
Nossa guerra não é contra a carne, mas é contra todas as potestasdes, Deus seja louvado!!!!!!!!!
I gotta say, I'm really pleased with how you presented everything. I was thinking it might be a bashing session, but I was pleasantly surprised. I'm a senior who took a year off, and am going back in the fall, and I'll be the first to say that not place is perfect, and PCC has cons for sure, some which are more severe in others. However, what you said is true, it's a place where you make some of the best memories you have. I think what makes the difference is whether someone is going because of money, beliefs, ease, location, rather than someone who realizes or believes that God has called them there for a purpose. If you attend and don't have a purpose, or equate rules to being a christian, you'll eventually get some high demerits 😂
they did a college advertisement thing at my school & tbh they seemed fun until you start reading abt them as a whole & they seemed cultish 😂 that’s coming from someone who went/goes to a christian school
sameeeee
Sameee they just did one for my school today it was some dude and his wife the school seemd great my my mom went to Christian schools and they took a trip there and she’s said the vibe was a little off but it was ok
I am not a student I literally started working there 3 weeks ago in the distribution center nobody talks nobody jokes around it is not the working environment I’m use to especially it being a warehouse and my first words were this seems more of a cult than a college and I literally jus got off and looked up they rules and that shit screams cult
@@jacobyyoung5999 We got it man. Don't have to leave the same reply on every comment. Find another job.
I went to teen extreme the summer camp there
Prayers group was rough. I was a nursing student and had to be up before 5:30am for clinicals. I would be so dead by 9:30pm and would have to set an alarm for prayer group. I liked it when PG was in our room so I didn’t actually have to leave my bed! 😂
i went to pca. if you are: black or person of color, a female, or queer you are not the priority for this company (remember it’s a company)i dropped out cuz it gave me a nervous breakdown where i would be crying till 2 am every night doing projects studying and homework (there were only a couple a honor roll and only a few a/b honor roll students in my grade on year, theres usually not many cuz it’s so hard there but jeez)
girl i’m glad you got out of there lmao i went to pca from k4-8th grade and i could not imagine being the same person i am today if i stayed any longer
“PRAYER GROUP” is nothing more than “GATHERING INFORMATION” about other people.
God commands women dress in shamefaced modesty so men look upon them as sisters in all purity. We must help guard their thoughts. Praise God, Pensacola emphasizes this. When I was in Bible college years ago, you never heard of sexual harassment. This is horrendous. The guy needed to be expelled immediately and reported to the police.
I was homeschooled for 6th grade. So we drove to PCC to buy Abeka books. My mom, sister, and I had to wear skirts just to go in the bookstore. I thought that was crazy to require that off visitors.
Really??
I work there and it is weird as hell
That is not true. If you’re a visitor, you don’t have to follow dress code
@@hemofhisgarment8083 Yes, they did require it. There was a sign on the door.
Cultic.
i’m currently in the 7th grade at PCA and personally just from visiting PCC they are so overbearing and can’t take others opinions.They think theirs are superior and take it too far
thank you for your video; i am planning on going to PCC and this was very helpful. i really liked the way you presented it with both the pros and cons. :)
This year!? My friend needs to find you
1. Prayer group (a couple of days per week, from 10:25pm to 11pm) 2. Priorities 3. Mixed groups/physical contact with the opposite gender 4. Attendance policy
I attended a Fundamental Baptist church in the early 90s when I was stationed at an Air Force Base in Louisiana. I was invited there by a very devout Christian. The people were pretty friendly overall, but some a little odd and socially awkward. I was raised Southern Baptist, green, and thought a Baptist was a Baptist. I was a little befuddled with all the women wearing dresses or skirts, the strange Stepford wife behavior with some of them, and nothing but King James Bible’s.
Anyway, many kids from the church went to PCC. I had no idea they were this strict.
Bottom line, a lot of the people in the IFB movement are great, but it’s very cultish in a lot of ways. Any church that imposes rules and legalism and a rigid is a red flag. We’re called to live in his love, grace, and forgiveness!
If you attended PCC, I am doing a documentary on the varying experiences of the students from the 70s through today. If you want to share your story, please get in touch by responding to this post. Thx - Maria
I had a mix of good and bad experiences at PCC from 1994 to 1998 when the Hortons were still the President and Senior vice president of the college.
Still working on this documentary? I attended from 2011 to 2017
Christian colleges and universities have rules in place to protect the students both spiritually and physically. Some rules, naturally, are in place to protect the institution. Before attending any college or university it is imperative to read every word of their student handbook. Most schools require each student to sign a statement that he or she has read the handbook and agrees to abide by the institution's policies. Remember that rules can be a positive character builder, if we are willing to live within their bounds. God has allowed many different Christian college and university choices to exist because He knows we are different in our needs and desires. Spend time in prayer, seek the counsel of your parents, pastor, wise spiritual leaders in your congregation and most trusted friends when seeking out a place to receive academic and spiritual training by which to live out your adult life, as you serve our Lord Jesus Christ.
Oh, I'm sure that scrutinizing her clothes when she came back from the hospital, lowering her grade because she had cramps, or forbidding guys to escort their female friends to make sure they don't get raped _totally_ protected her _both spiritually and physically_ /sarcasm
Good for you. I went to PCA from ‘95 to May ‘06 and everything was so controlling. I loved the level of education I received, but the level of brainwashing far surpassed this. I don’t know how many times my parents had to correct instructors for trying to control me. I had a racist teacher in the fifth grade 🤦🏾♀️. I can’t imagine dealing with this at PCC.
Ugh I knew it! I was just waiting for some one to prove it is a brainwashing cult school.
@@Random_Fox628 yeah, there was a lot of sketchy stuff that happened over my years there that one could take as cultish. In recent years, they purchased the road that ran through a portion of PCC’s campus, blocking off their campus and surrounding houses into a compound. The education I got was great, but not at the expense of the things I went through.
@@Cloud9crown Wow that's crazy. I have pretty high tolerance, and might be able to stay there for a year. My parents just want me to go there so badly.
You confirmed my statements ive made about it being a cult see I don’t go to school there or nothing I jus work in their book warehouse and years before I can member that you were able to ride thru that section of the school and since it has been blocked off from one side I always wonder is those house behind belong to them or something but now it makes sense it seems as if they are making that a sacred ground that the outside world can’t come in and don’t want the outside world around them when I’m at work I literally be wondering why these people look so closed off from real life and seem socially awkward the girls don’t talk the guys don’t even joke around like they would in a normal warehouse setting I never knew much about this place bc I’m not from Pensacola but last 3 weeks working there have really been interesting just by observing and I’m a guy that is tatted up fully and they look at me like an oddball while I’m there I said it 3 days in that that place is a cult not a college
Horrible school…I was kicked out in early 90s
Same
I was there one summer to work before starting the first semester. I lasted 2 weeks. My high school youth pastors drove down from Virginia and got me out of there. They thought it was a cult.
I believe it is a cult as well most likely.
I have heard that about the late night requirement, it is not good when some students have to get up early. It’s not good for people to not get enough sleep and promotes getting sick.
And the double standard of men is not right. They are to be leaders, not get a pass.
The fact that they focused on the sweatpants at ALL when you had been hurt was absolutely ridiculous.
I knew of a student whose brother was going overseas as a missionary and they didn’t want to let him leave for two days over the weekend to say goodbye. Crazy stuff like that, change it.
It is not living by grace and promotes the law and phariseeical behavior.
I know there may be many positives but an excess of control is just wrong, a girl should be able to ask for someone to accompany her in the dark and to think everyone has evil motives just because they are a man (or woman) is messed up.
Praying for all.
I was there for two years and my second year I got suspended because I decided to make a microwave dinner after 11 because I was working all day and had not one to stop for dinner or else my computer would get taken away by someone else. The RA told me that it was fine and would give me only a warning and then found out that he actually wrote me up behind my back and decided to not tell me that I had a bunch of demerits till the end if the semester.
There are many other great Christian schools that uphold godly standards, while not being a total cult.
Saw your video I never been there myself but I have known many people who have studied at Pensacola Christian college and have led on in their life to do great things for the Lord Jesus Christ. Being a Christian is not an easy thing but the Bible says I can do all things in Christ with strengthens me. I do not disagree with rules and regulations because they are there for your protection from the devil who is constantly about his work of destroying a Christian. I respect your opinions God bless you greatly
Jesus Cristo é o Senhor
Glória Deus!!
Genuinely why do any of you go to a school that isn’t regionally accredited? You won’t find any high paying jobs, or get into any decent graduate schools because they don’t even see it as an actual college….
I am a current student at PCC and they have laid off on the prayer groups. Now we have to only go on Thursdays at 10:30. Monday and Tuesday are optional. They changed the shorts rule for guys and they have to wear longer shorts. They created a 3+ pass now so we can meet guys off campus.
I went to a high school like this and let me tell you I RAN out of there as soon as I graduated. The rules they have are not realistic and don’t prepare you for the real world. It’s also not a way you should be treating GROWN adults.
My sister goes to PCC and prayer group is COMPLETELY optional this year
You’re lying?! ugh that’s so not fair lol
That’s only bc of Covid
@@Rachelvalee yeah, my roomie is a prayer leader this semester, and bc of covid, we can set them any time of the week, and people are not even forced to come. Obv we end up with really small prayer groups...
@@jasonlabrecque8852 As much as I loved my small group, I'm really upset that it was optional. But then again, when I graduated, the following year they allowed headphones which was soooo upsetting. Lol
5:01 - I would have a HUGE problem with that rule. I am a hugger by nature, and I always greet female friends with a hug. If I would get into trouble for simply doing that, then that would probably be a showstopper for me. That is, I would choose a different college to attend.
i dont understand how any college student would want to go to pcc tbh
it’s SUPER cheap lol. But unfortunately it wasn’t worth it enough for me to stay :/
I heard it’s really cheap to study there
One time I had a doctors note and they still counted it as general because “ I need to make dr app. around my classes”
I went to a school considered a party school. However, for summer bridge, we had the same rules you guys have. Summer bridge was a program where you took care of 2 classes during the summer. We were required to live on campus and we had rules such as; only girls on the 2nd floor, must attend all classes (attendance not optional), must attend cluster meetings, cannot eat with parents (not even at the fast food place across the dorms, parents may only visit you in the lobby), cannot go back to dorms during the school day, must attend residence hall meetings, cannot call significant other, cannot have computer, cannot have cell phones, cannot have your car (must leave car at home), breakfast is optional but free.
The number of times I caught people doing things against the rules. I never told on anyone though. I believe someone even had a computer in her room. "Surprised pickachu face".
What’s wrong with eating with your parents??? And why couldn’t you call your SO? You’re just talking. Why couldn’t you have a phone or PC? Why couldn’t you bring a car? Was it a parking thing (hopefully)?
@@Agmolly I don't know. I never actually questioned the rules. I just followed the rules.
@@Agmolly I could not stop thinking about your questions about how come you couldn't go eat with your parents. I guess because you might say oh I'm gonna go eat with my parents right across the street and then go home, which wasn't allowed. I guess you could not call your SO because it was considered a distraction. And you couldn't take your car because you might leave campus (which was not allowed). I mean we had fun anyway. We knew what we were signing up for, actually I didn't but it went well though, it's not like we were tortured or anything.
If I hear that stupid doxology one more time I’m committing not-alive
I was just curious and started watching your clip. That prayer group thing? Bob Jones back in the 70s! You HAD to stay up for prayer group and you HAD to get up at 7, even if you didn't have class. I needed more than 8 hours sleep. It was a real problem, and I ended up with a medical problem and a term off. And pants? It was no pants except for gym back then. Dating Parlour. Yep. Yep. Yep. I stayed a few years. Great academics. Some great profs. BUT, nope. Didn't stay to graduate. Demerits? How about White Glove twice a year, too... FIVE people to a room. (Two and a half closets. Only 2 desks. A 3 bunk and a 2 bunk.) Finally got A/C just before I left. I think BJU has gone liberal, LOL; but it sounds as if PCC is like the OLD BJU. BTW, that monthly thing? If you were not in the hospital, you had to be in class.I actually passed out in a lecture hall. I had to pick myself up and get myself to "Barge." That meant lying on the skinny exam table at Barge Hospital from 8-dinner time. Oh, there was an epidemic once. They turned the entire Georgia Creel dorm into an infirmary. The sick people had to move in and the well people were temporarily displaced. And you couldn't live off post, except with parents or an adult sibling. Also, couldn't be a student, if you were married, until you were 21. How about them apples! My kids just laughed when they got the PCC application and that booklet about work on campus. I think they realized it was ridiculous and stopped using it! I love A Beka though! Best home school program ever! Thanks for sharing!
Attended from 2012-2016. Stopped singing the doxology 3 weeks into school because it was way to cultish. For the first time in 8 years, I allowed the words to leave my lips. Also. To those of you saying you can choose to go there and the rules are outlined and yada yada ... with so many rules and so many people allowed to police them, it’s IMPOSSIBLE to execute with ABSOLUTE fairness. I had been accused of doing something when in actuality, the individual had the wrong black girl. She even called me a liar. Meanwhile, her ignorance was the true and only problem in the scenario. Also, while it may be a choice, PCC is literally dirt cheap for an excellent education, so for some people, the price tag of other schools makes it near impossible to go with any other school but PCC. I highly associate with your priorities point. Also, sexism is literally everywhere. Definitely getting better, but not fast enough, considering I graduated 4 years ago.
Hi, Abby 🙏🏾❤️
I went there 26 years ago and I still won’t sing the Doxology!
I work there been there for 3 weeks I’m not into none of that stuff jus a man that was called about a job opportunity and I took it but since being there it really is cultish and I said that 2 days in I just literally got off and went to look up their rule book out of curiosity and it’s crazy and it is really a cult my first day I was wondering why are people color coordinated in certain areas etc nobody talks to each other at work or anything it is really weird and I get stared at everyday I come to work bc one I have a old school nice car that’s loud and fixed up then I have tattoos covering both my arms to where u see no skin and I’m sure they are not use to seeing a guy like me at all
@@jacobyyoung5999 exactly.
@@pastorxaviersmall8184 haha
Yo just want to check in here and say that if you want to go a conservative Christian college, but don’t want to deal with a lot of the aforementioned garbage at PCC, check out the Baptist College of Florida. I just graduated from BCF and I would recommend it so much more than PCC.
pcc is affordable, the only positive thing about it HOWEVER that’s what these people look for…. vulnerable people who want an education and don’t have the money. They prey on low income kids to go there for the fun surfing thing, rock climbing wall, and an affordable education. Would never recommend.
Great video! I grew up with a lot people who attended. More people should speak up so others don’t end up wasting their time and money and supporting them
my sister and best friend got demerits because they passed a boy. We had gone to school with since kindergarten and they said hello to each other. they were accused of conspiring to meet off-campus or some nonsense.
The control is why I a secular government is preferable to a religious government (theocracy)
PCC has let up on some of the rules since I was there based on this (but not too much lol). Finished every semester with between 75 and 85 demerits, so I would be campused for exactly one day-the day we weren't allowed to leave until after we passed white glove anyway. Fun game for anyone who's thinking of going.
Honestly? I went for 4.5 years. The cool thing is, you don't have to go. If you choose to go, and it's not your cup of tea, then don't. Plus as she said, the pathway is given before you go. I totally agree with the prayer group time. I wanted to be in bed by 9 pm, especially if I had a 730 class. I loved PG, I just hated the time. Also when I graduate, I totally hugged all my guy friends. And def hugged them before Christmas vacation. Never had an issue, but as she said, it's who you're around. Some of them are def power-driven, while others were pretty chill. Not gonna lie, that attendance policy saved me because I am generally am a lazy person and like my sleep. But also agree because I had terrible migraines, but I knew that it would be gone within an hour, so it didn't make sense to go to the Graf clinic just for a one-hour migraine. The little rules, thank Jesus, were given to me by my senior roommate and when I became senior roommate, I made sure to help my freshies so they didn't fall into the silly rule loopholes. I wish some of my intense rule-keeping RAs would have popped in though with my one roommate though. At one point we found rotting ramen in her bed. It was vile.
I could NEVER go there because im a christian with asd and extreme sensory issues to clothing and I wear sweatpants 24/7 7 days a week and just the thought of wearing a skirt everyday would make me wanna turn into a boy. That dress code man, most christian churches today let women wear pants and sneakers to church but this college..it asks too much from ppl. Why make your life more ugly, uncomfortable and miserable than it has to be?!
As a R.N. AND A PARENT BALANCE IS ESSENTIAL FOR THE IMMUNE SYSTEM. The females ARE ALWAYS put last on the list. The fact that they DID NOT GO ABOVE AND BEYOND when you were sick. Makes me BEYOND ANGRY. You are precious. Godspeed.
I just left too!! ❤️❤️
Jadyn i’m so sorry people are being so mean right now. :(
Rachel Jones you’re the sweetest 🥺🥺
Hey this might be a little late but can I ask you questions about the school?
I went to pcc for a church camp and it was fun
Bruh...
I’m going this year I’m leaving to go on the 13th of this month. I’m scared but excited
Savannah Brown I can help with any questions you might have bc I’m a returning student this year!!
b.rose oh I’ve already went it was so so so fun. Love the campus and everyone there. I know I’m only 13 but I’m low key thinking about going there for collage.
Savannah Brown 13? So you’ve got like a while left, but time rly flies tbh... continue to think/pray it over! The main reason I went to pcc was bc I got into their singing traveling group and was a work student so it helped me out
I still wish you didn’t leave 😭😭 I need you 😭😭❤️
When did you go? I was just a freshman and I didn’t feel like it was a big deal to walk alone with someone of the opposite gender. Also I hate the attendance policy
I went in the fall semester of 2019. And I never actually got in trouble with student life for it but you definitely can’t walk around in unsupervised areas together.
Hi!! Very good video!! Do you recommend it for a international student?
I’ve been watching a bunch of PCC videos💀💀Scary school
My mom met her girlfriend there
Wait huh?
Hold up🧐🤨🤔😯
Lolll😂😂
Love that
LMAOO
I wouldn’t want to go that college
I'll be honest, I'm a junior at PCC. They are slowly coming up to times, but the rules are a fair problem. Unfortunately, I think the issue here is they are the extremity of stereotypical naive Baptists. I have to give them credit for their intent, just the execution of it is a little much. They are learning though.
I know it's too late to tell you, and that you might say, "that's not the point" but for cramps what has worked for me is running daily. No, not light yoga, not aerobics, just running and running.
Thanks so much for the tip! I DREAD running but i’ll definitely have to suck it up lol because these cramps are no joke.
@@Rachelvalee hope it helps.
@@Rachelvalee also I forgot to clarify, it's supposed to be everyday of the month, not just on period days.
Boom!!! First 🤪 let me go watch this now cuz i commenting and I haven’t even watched it yet 😂
😂😂didn’t read the rule book then got upset at it funny
Who would want to take time to read that thickass book LMAO
GREAT NEWS KIDS, you can choose not to go there. The rules are not a secret. You are going to college, research it in advance....... duh.
my parents want me to go to PCC so if u could do more vids on it i would love it. thank you
me too
@@gioplanet8089 DO NOT go there. You’ll have absolutely no freedom compared to other colleges. Women and men are segregated, and they send chaperones if you go on a date if you are both under a certain age. Please don’t go to a religious school like this. Religion is something you choose to live by. You’ll be fine going to literally any other college. I beg you please don’t go
@@zellty423 So im a super social guy and obviously talk to all the girls and has a few drinks here and there for fun but then I read the handbook and it seemed like there was no way I was going to be able to talk to girls or do anything. Is that true cause everyone makes it seem like you literally have no freedom and all you do it pray and go to school.
@@Corporal_Jimbob You don’t know freedom unless you go somewhere else. They’re treating students like toddlers, completely isolated and no independence with all of those rules and regulations. If you want to be religious, practice it on your own, no need to stay in this college just because it’s religious. I’m trying to help others who plan on going to PCC, since it’s DEFINITELY not the right school to go to.
**I’m not sure if you go there or you just read the handbook, just trying to make things clear
I went to this college for one semester in 2001. I was there when the planes crashed into the twin towers. We weren't allowed to watch any news sources or any television reporting. I didn't even see the actual footage until I went home in December. We weren't even allowed to call our parents. It made an already extremely terrifying and disturbing time be exponentially worse.
I went there '04 - '10 and this sounds right lol. My friend group really got each other through. Definitely not for everyone.
I understand where you're coming from and I feel the same way. Just get rid of the ridiculous rules and attitudes and PCC would be the best college to go to. I got along well with all but 2 of my roommates over 9 semesters and got along with my classmates and workmates at the distribution center and DC Annex and liked most of my teachers. But church attendance should not be required and men should be able to have longer hair and grow their beards anytime and women should be allowed to wear pants. And hold people in authority accountable for their words and actions. Then PCC would be a far better college. And allow human beings to touch other human beings. There's nothing wrong with a hug. And women's issues should be considered instead of ignored. I personally didn't like coming back from chapel to see that someone searched my belongings while I was out of my room. Very unChrist like.
i went for a summer camp, loved it but my parents are really forcing me into this college and i really dont wanna go ;/
I’m so sorry. It’s awful to feel like you don’t have a choice in something that could negatively impact you forever. Can you suggest another Christian college? Or perhaps a community college close by?
@@Agmolly Honestly dont know where i want to go rn.
@@amazonbox1115 Knowing what you *don’t* want is good too. I really hope everything works out for you. 💜
@@Agmolly Thank you!
I am in the same exact situation. I hate the college already because the students are supposed to snitch on each other. There is probably no privacy or personal rights at all. It is barely accredited even.
There is no perfect college, church family is individual. We are all affected by fall- all sinned there is no good people, not even one Paul writes to Romans. Having said that means there are things P c c can
Change but
Is it Beneficial? Im sad to hear that you left college before graduation, like demas you left the good path for the world.
. I hear the rules were too much for you. I went to a similar college abroad, and the four years in my Christian collage where the things i am most grateful for today 30 years down the
Line, remember discipline doesn’t feel good at the moment but its for a our good. If you dont like discipline in life, you are headed the wrong road. I took my daughter to Pcc because i wanted her to learn life is about Christ not us. Listening to you i definitely feel you represent many young people who have been lied to and believed these lies. The lie being - do what you like and what’s comfortable, ma’am you’re a beautiful intelligent girl, i wish i could see you when you’re my age 54 and see what you became snd how your own kids turn out being a free style girl ,no supervision no rules no inconvenience no breaks lifestyle. Water and fire are powerful elements they teach us about need for limits and control and with these they are useful . Im young old now i still need discipline, we all need checks otherwise our fleshly desires will drive us away from the one - the overseer of our souls . Your story has made me very sad, i hope you get back on tract having tasted the water of life, im afraid you’re walking away from whats good.
the Okay i just stumbled on your post and decided you had the courage to write so i may as well have you a honest strangers feedback
I go to pca pensacola Christian Academy It’s the school for their college, basically
Hey, Rachel! I understand about the pros and cons of PCC. I attended almost three years. No college/university is perfect, however, secular schools/online schooling is not the worse thing. If you would like me to help you find a better choice of a school, affordable, and everything, message me. :) UoP College Grad '16 - Human Services: Management.
You gotta explain what the guy actually posted on his solcial media was.
I didn’t want to explain what he said throughly in the fear that RUclips could’ve potentially taken the video down. It also could’ve been triggering towards people who have experienced the terrible things he had posted and I didn’t want to make anyone uncomfortable if that makes sense.
@@Rachelvalee understandable have a nice day.
My boi big al💪🏼😩
I went here for camp this year I loved it but I didn’t like the dress code
Hey I know another college if you want My best friend has shown Grove City College on LinkedIn. They a lot less strict The place you went to sounds Legalism . He & were discussing in a distant he is willing to pay for my education any Christian college. Yes he & I know this Place hurts Women. The Beach Thing I thought was crazy. I am a sweatpants girl. I d” start over with country college.
Wow, that seems really strict.
Did u know the goforths
Do you know if PCC has clubs for different interests?
im glad you got out, i know you were trying to be as nice as possible about it but that school is super toxic
Great video! Thanks for the heads up! Sounds too legalistic for me, but hey, maybe that works for some people
This is the same thing as a Christian school im a freshman in a Christian school. This is honestly life. Like okay yea we don't like things but cmon seriously it's just life. The Bible talks abt that in Proverbs about woe is me. Like I'm not being rude or anything but you know it's life
It’s not life ... once you graduate and leave, you’ll realize how unlike real life it actually is.
can i get away with a nose piercing o_O
not at pcc unfortunately :/
Why would you have a nose piercing.
@Chicken Flavor why not? lol
Hey did you know Bailey go forth
Hey, a family with the last name of Goforth attend my church. The parents are Shawna and Mark. Possibly related?
This isn't a bash video, but I'm gonna bash.
You didn’t hear the pros I listed out too? Interesting
this aint lil tecca that small tecca
I’ll fist bump my future Girl every day! 🤣jk that’s sad tho
I think I would be ok with the rules, but I have one question. I suffer from colitis, so around 1pm, I usually get bloated. Are you allowed to wear sports pants everyday or do you have to dress professionally everyday?
You’re allowed to wear knee length shorts everyday except for Sunday. But it has to be after a certain time on weekdays. I think the time is 4pm? I can’t specifically remember. And all day on Saturday is ok to wear shorts. But you aren’t allowed to wear them to classes or church. :/
@@Rachelvalee thank you. Then I'm out! Lol. I'm ok with not been allowed to dress like I'm in a fashion show but my comfort is above all.
exactly lol
Lol don’t be “ok” with these wacky ass rules, college is the first chance you get to be a true adult, don’t let this weird school still treat you like a 5 year old
dang u used to be at pcc. pcc was okay for certain people though. not me
A complain channel😢
If u have. Liberated mindset, piercing all over u, not having rules then truly PCC is not for u…. That’s why it’s called Pensacola CHRISTIAN college.
Riiiight. Because Christians can’t have piercings. And I do recall having an entire portion on the things I liked about PCC🤔
@@Rachelvalee I loved my time at PCC (graduated in 2019) and would definitely recommend it to some, and I felt you were very fair in your response. 😊
Did your credits transfer to another college?
Unfortunately no. My credits didn’t transfer. :/
@@Rachelvalee Thanks for letting us know. I don't think I'll go here either. It does not even have the majors I'm the most interested in.
U presented your self very well..just be a Christian... Not be a robot
Bruh... 💀
My cousin who is more like my aunt went there. I had no idea this school was so opresive.
Deus no controle
Deus seja louvado
Bruh that’s school sounds so boring and sad really, you can’t hug , kiss, and date. That’s what college is supposed to be about finding yourself and even love and all that jazz. This make it feel like your in high school or even middle school for goodness sake you can’t barley nothing without a chaperone and y’all are adults. I wouldn’t find this type of school fun to go to in my opinion they doing to much. I heard about Christians high school having these type of rules but I couldn’t imagine it’s that deep in a university. It’s a no for me 🙅🏽♀️
You can pretty much do anything as long as you’re married first. Then they can’t tell you squat lol. So a lot of couples end up engaged really quickly which is nuts to see. But yeah there was no way I was finding my soulmate there lol.
It be racist AF