Shifter Surround Fix and Console Removal | BA-BF Ford Falcon & SX-SY Territory
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- In this episode we show options and how to fix old, wrinkle covered plastics such as the shifter/gear selector surround found in the Ford BA-BF Falcon & SX-SY Territory!
Plenty more to come on this BA Falcon including performance upgrades and a good tidy up as well as loads of other projects from the garage.
Hope this helps, thanks for watching and please consider subscribing for more if you enjoyed.
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NOTE: As always be careful when completing any work on your car, and if you have any doubts refer to a workshop manual or experts - we are not experts!
Cheers for the vids on the BA mate, it's made it a lot easier to fix some issues I've had on mine.
No problem mate, glad they have helped. Cheers for your feedback too, awesome to hear!
when painting plastic, its best to use plastic primer first, that will fill in that sanding gaps and then you can put the base coat on and it will be shinny and smooth
its good that you painted in original colour. When i see custom jobs on carsales i run away.
I get it from the perspective of a guy new to cars wanting to make it your own and do something cheap, it makes sense. That being said I'm glad I never did it, not really my taste.
Yep same!!!
Best channel I’ve come across on RUclips! Every video explained right down to detail. Really does help! Keep it up legend thanks for the hectic videos👌🏼
Wow thanks very much for the kind words mate, a lot of work goes into these videos so thank you very much. Hope you enjoy what we have coming up 👍
Cheers Browney, luv ya work mate, I ordered the stick on chrome option for my BA as it seems the way simpler option. Thanks to your vid I saved a lot of work as I was going to order the genuine replacement panel but honestly, I cbf doing all the extra work. Keep doin what ya do mate. :)
Definitely is the simpler option, I’d say most people who see what it takes to that way!
Thanks for watching and dropping comment mate 👍
Awesome upload Browney, saved me a lot of time and money. I had to replace the gear selector bushings for both the shifter and transmission ends so watched this video before doing the job. Cheers mate👍.
Nice, glad it helped mate 👍
Nice one! So much easier to see it rather than read it! Forums on this topic are varied. Til now I've only found one other vid on this, which isnt as good. Thanks for taking the time to make this. Hopefully this is one of many BA/BF specific vids you'll do? Subbed!
I find the same thing. Forums were such a go to for things like this before, it's a shame none of them seem to be as active as they once were.
Sure is, let me know if there's anything you'd like to see and I'll try get to it, plenty lined up to come on this car.
Thanks heaps for the support mate 👍
Thanks for posting this video! It has given me enough information to know this is too much work just to paint a little item like that. If I were to do this job now I'd make sure that I were to do other items too. Things like the radio surround and other items similar to justify spending that time pulling the interior apart. Again, thanks for posting.
Thanks for the comment mate and I completely understand, at least you won't discover that half way through the job now!
I painted mine with m7 2pk spray paint sprayed the spikes and top of gear shifter as well then cleared the lot matches the car and looks great
Im thinking of spraying mine too, wondering if you used gloss, does it look overly plasticie? Leaning towards a satin at the mo
Interesting video, as I have done this fix too. I painted mine, it looks good but I've noticed it scratches fairly easily now. Still better than those horrible blisters. Subbed!!
Can't be worse than the bubbly surround that's for sure. Thanks mate.
Yes scratches just looking at it and it looks horrible after a while have to.be cateful what polish or sealer you use too can react
Great tutorial, and good advice re roadworthy and globe. Thanks for sharing. Rob
That metal ring you found under your ssat is a Tiffany and Co ring.
Absolutely FANTASTIC CHANNEL!!!!
@Ben Pratt Legend, thanks heaps for watching mate 👍
Had been intending to do this repair for ages, thanks for the video wasnt sure on how to get at it without breaking stuff. After watching ya video decided on the vinyl wrap option first attempt showed up the defects in the plastic pretty well so tried again went down to a fine 2000 grit paper took a lot of work but end result looks fantastic. and by far the cheapest option. $8 for a sheet 1200x1000 went for a wood grain wrap
@Dave Westgarth Nice! Definitely a great option mate, sounds awesome.
Thanks for your video. Very informative, enjoyed it.
@Bernhard K Thanks mate, glad you’re enjoying the videos 👍
First time here and i instantly subscribed well done mate!
Just picked up my BA 2004 xr6 with stage 2 built gearbox, headers and full exhaust really loving it.
Thanks very much mate, sounds like a great BA you have yourself too 👍. Hope you enjoy
Thanks alot for the reply.
Oh and I forgot the previous owner had ported and polished the head,so Just wondering how much power do u think I might have?
And what does it mean by stage 2 gearbox it does feel a bit more harsh then a stock gearbox
@@ahmadabdurrehman528 I'm far from an expert mate so I'd only be guessing, and not sure if there's much restriction in the stock head without a lot more power but can't hurt. Probably up around the figure we ran before a tune though if I had to guess, 150-155rwkw?
The stage stuff people use is way too vague unfortunately, but if it shifts a bit firmer it may have just had an adjustment on the S5 solenoid (I believe, again I'm a hack!), seems to be a good go to mod for the BTR. May have to shoot the old owner a message for more details if you really keen though mate.
@brownet's garage Thanks so much,really appreciate the help,for sure ill get back to the owner sometime soon.once again really appreciate it.
(Ill have more questions coming up soon lool)
Excellent video bro i exactly needed to watch this explained what i needed to do. your a champion.
Glad it helps mate. Sounds like a lot but it's really not a bad job. Good luck mate 👍
Fantastic. Thanks 😊
Great video man, really well explained. I've just picked up a BA XR6 and the only two things letting it down are the shifter surround and the clear coat peeling off the spoiler (I've already fixed the stuffed bonnet struts). I'll probably go with the chrome plate option because I'm lazy and once I fix the clear coat it'll be sweet. I'm surprised you guys can fail a warrant for no selector lights, pretty sure that doesn't matter in NZ, could be wrong though.
I need to get to the bonnet struts too actually, thanks for reminding me! If I wasn’t running through all the options I definitely would have just gone with the chrome plate in hindsight.
It’s one of those horror stories I’ve heard is possible but you’d be very unlucky to find someone picky enough to fail you on.
Thanks for watching mate.
@@BrowneysGarage I had an E39 BMW fail a warrant because of a few dead pixels on the dash display meaning it was a bit harder to read odometer kms. It was still obvious what the numbers were but he failed it anyway. Turned out the guy's son had been giving easy warrants out to his mates, one of them crashed and it was partly due to something that should have failed the car. So this guy was being ultra picky on everything. That's fine on the safety stuff, but things like dead pixels and selector lights are pretty frustrating. Especially when they're a pain to fix.
Great videos mate, you're by far the most informative bloke I've found for all the common falcon maintenance I need. Keep up the good work
Hey wow thanks heaps mate, not sure I deserve that but glad to hear. Cheers for watching, more to come.
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Look out for the Gear Position Indicator Lamp when removing the Shift Surround, it's easy to pull the wires out of the lamp socket.
(ask me how I know)...
The Shift Lever needs to have the "trigger" removed to get the rear trim off for refinishing. there's a screw under the TOP of the lever inside...
It IS possible to remove the Shift Surround (SS) WITHOUT removing the console. I have just done this job today and am typing this waiting for the paint to dry.
You can lift the INNER console enough to get the SS out, but ensure you remove all fasteners and flex the "sides" of the rear console out of the inner console, removing six screws located under the console lid (and after the console lid has itself been removed there's a couple of scews as a surprise!)
Carbon fibre the xr series door trim moulds same issue but yet again another great video Browny
Thanks mate 👍
I didnt worry about the centre console little clips back into the body, I figured that the 2 x 8mm bolts that screw into the sides near the rear seat bolts is enough to hold the console firm.
You're right they're probably not very important. I was just kicking myself I forgot them!
@@BrowneysGarage well the 8mm tek screw should hold it, not to mention if you are like me and keep ripping out the centre console those plastic clips are the last things that I want to hold me up
I purchased one of the bling covers for my ba they scratch far to easily and are a cheap alternative to respray I instead chose to chrome tech spray mine with purple candy chrome way better option but involved a lot of fussy prep but was worth it
Good video 👍🏼
wondering if you could possibly modify the cover so next time for bulb replacement you dont have to remove every piece of interor 🤔
I must have the only BA falcon were the cup holder isnt broken
@Corn holio Didn't suss it at the time and it's been a while but looking back I think it would be possible. Would mean cutting sections of the center console that overlap/are bolted down by the shifter assembly. Likely all cuts would be hidden under the rest of the surrounding trim but I wonder how much this would effect the structure or any any noises and movement coming from the center console assembly.
Don't think I would do it but I sure as hell hope I don't need to do it all again any time soon as well!
And yes I'd say you do have the only one that isn't broken, wonder if that'll be worth big $$$ some day!
@@BrowneysGaragehaha yeh sorry im a step behind the world, im giving the interior a refresh,
At the stage of pulling the handbrake to do that cover, like on another channel i said im kind of worried, but it has to be done...
That cup holder's probably worth more than the car 🤣
Oh no, You don't have to take the seats out. Just slide them forward and use a 1/4" ratchet with 8mm socket will get those lower rear bolts out.
didnt realise how much work was actually in that job think i took one of the easy options
You may have mate, all fairly easy once you know where everything is but definitely a little time consuming.
Oh man I'm literally taking my territory in for a road worthy tomorrow and when you said that gear globe requires that much labour it broke me lost my job last week had to give my work vehicle back so I bought a territory thinking it would do for carrying my tools unbelievable for a tiny little light bulb
Sorry to hear mate.
I’ve heard of people being pulled up for it but I’m sure most wouldn’t notice it even if it is out. Good luck mate.
@@BrowneysGarage turns out that was the least of my issues have to get all the bushes done the trans is leaking a very small amount and that was only replaced in September according to the invoice in the glove box.aswell as the lpg duel tank being just on 10 years old that needed re testing the rear drivers door window isn't working and lock isn't working I thought it would be the actuator after looking up a few vids so I've ordered one of eBay but I'm starting to think it's something is the power window in any way connected to the actuator your other video had an earth wire ground and that had both the symptoms I have. I'm gonna try do the gear selector globe and the door lock and window myself I'm a carpenter by trade pretty handy with tools I just have a fear of breaking anything else on this. The rest is out of my depth getting done at the shop now. Sorry for the long message hope you have a good xmas I like your channel I'm a fan to think I came across looking for cool ways to spruce up the icc was looking at getting one the overview center console next Xmas I think
@adam odering Oh damn, bit of a list there. Nothing too major I guess but doing those bushes may hurt the wallet.
I’m sure you won’t have any troubles tackling those jobs you’re going to, there not too bad at all and they’re already broken anyway - how much worse could it get!
I don’t think there is any interaction between the power window and lock actuator other than perhaps the wires are ran together, maybe just check they are still there running into the door from the body? If they’ve been pinched/cut/not hooked up when replacing a door?
More than likely though just the actuator and window motor, shame cause I’ll have a video on diagnosing power window issues early next year hopefully.
Have a great Xmas to you too mate, let us know how you go and hopefully things will be on the up for you soon 👍
@@BrowneysGarage the power window for that is working from the drivers door control just not the rear driverside door so the window motor is working must be a wire break in between the door pillars yeah? Just got it back this afternoon new bushes and arms drive shaft replaced with a reconditioned one they cleaned up under the trans and can't see it leaking so I'll just keep an eye on that for now they cleared the check engine fault light but it came back on as soon as i turned the lights on I'm guessing from the gear selector blown globe. They did all that for 1500 which I thought wasn't bad it hurt like hell but I thought it would be more. Gonna try again tomorrow for a road worthy and hope they will let me fix those 2 faults over Xmas I have another concern that was raised today it's currently sitting on 265/45r20 factory for this model is 225/65r17 a couple of people have said there not road worthy the have brand new trends on them. I have to say I love everything about straya except road worthy process in nz we have to get a warrant of fitness every year twice if your car predates 2000 I thought it was awesome getting out of that but come to buying a second hand car at least you know they have been looked at by a mechanic at least once a year.
@@adamodering4330 If the motor is working from the main control then the wiring to that door will likely be fine. Will be the wiring for the rear button in the door, button not plugged in properly or no longer working. Easy enough to see if all the wiring is there and plugged in with the door card off, if it's the button itself you may be able to pull it apart and check that all the contacts are clean? Otherwise they're reasonably cheap to replace, could maybe swap the one from the other side in to test first but not sure if they are interchangeable.
Price sounds about right, hopefully you're not far off a RWC.
And don't encourage them to bring in any more laws, it's hard enough to enjoy our cars sometimes as it is!
Should of hit the chrome cover with 320 grit on sander until the stainless looses its polish. then etch prime then saturn silver. Then stick over. Yes that oem paint is actually a metal wrap of some sort and stabs through underneath your nails.
I got the chrome stick on plate from ebay instead. Perfect fit too.
It's a really good option, I quite like mine now too.
Thanks for watching the video mate, hope you enjoy.
Hell yea I got one too , and the chrome gear selector , looks great , had a BA G220 (5.4litre fairlane)
Can you just remove the gear lever and stick that on without removing the whole console. Thanks.
Jay Dee yeah gear knob comes off , chrome plate fits around selector and sticks straight on 👌🏼 I just did the bulb in the gear selector what a job 🥱
Jay Dee you have to take off the plastic surrounding the gear selector module, but it just pops off easy as pie 👌🏼
thank you so much brother
Thanks for watching 👍
what a mission. got a few rinkles on the shifter and looks like it’s not worth it.
Depends how much it bothers you I guess. It sounds like a lot of work but none of it is difficult really.
Picking the worst of the bubbling off and sticking the chrome plate on wouldn't be a bad option if you weren't keen on pulling it apart though.
Hi, I watched this video a while back now & a week ago I bought the parts you recommended. You show how to do the plate, but not the cover on the shifter knob. I was wondering if you could tell me how to dismantle the knob , so I can fit the new cover on it. Cheers
Carefully pry at the top of the shifter button, slightly down and out. Then there’s a Phillips head from memory holding the plate on.
Good luck and thanks for watching mate.
I would like to know too please
Do you need heat or just force
@Michael Chiverall Hey mate, answer is already in the earlier reply to this comment. Hope it helps 👍
Thanks, was thinking the button was the way in...
Good and informative, good job
@Sean Edwards Thanks mate and cheers for watching.
cheers mate this helped a lot
Thanks heaps mate, glad it helped and thanks for the support.
That’s perfect thank you very much awesome video subscribe and all
Thanks mate and welcome!
Awesome vid👍👍
Thanks very much mate, cheers
How do u get to the clips in the glub box didn't show how u got to that
@Hayden Reynolds Talk about this at 13:51, not much to show. You'll be able to see the top of them by lifting the lid and removing the carpet, clip is split in the middle and opens once they're in to grab hold so just close/squeeze these and lift the console away.
Hope that helps mate.
My BF wagon has that blistered rubbish on the door pulls. Hints for those? Thanks.
I have no idea how you managed to get it all of as i've tried with the scrapper and heating it and the only part that i can just remove is what is lifted but everything else is on there hard as rock. I have even tried to heat it up to almost so hot you can't touch it but nothing helps. 😞
My selector gear light has blown need to change it do I still need to do everything you did just to change the globe or can I just take out the gear cover have tried once to remove the cove but it would not budge you say there are tabs you need to squeeze in to take it out is that right
Any videos on a ef Fairmont
What spring and where does it sit inside the gear lever please
Well done mate, but how the heck do you replace the chrome piece on the shifter knob itself? I can see there is a screw there but NFI how to get to it!
Cheers, Browney.
And STAY AWESOME mate.
I worked it out.
Keep up the good work mate, I have found your channel very helpful.
Hey mate, thanks very much for the kind words and glad you sorted it! All the best 👍
I know this was 2 years ago so my chances are slim, but any chance you could tell me how you did it? I’m looking to replace the plastic piece on my shifter knob too.
G'day mate no disrespect but shifter light on b series isn't actually a roadworthy issue because there's a digital shift indicator on the dash.
Fair enough, hadn't really given it enough consideration I guess and have just heard it mentioned over the years. For the feedback and for watching mate 👍
Do you reckon these chrome plates are REALLY made of stainless steel as the ebay ad claims?
I’m disappointed I didn’t try to suss this out more while I was out but if I had to guess... no not a chance! I could be wrong though
@@BrowneysGarage Yes, I also have my severe doubts lol but I'll get one anyway one day, although I may repaint it silver before I put it in.
@Steve Mack I am glad it's out there still though, I like mine and it's a damn good option for a quicker fix if you don't want to pull it all apart. Would have been happy with the repainted version too, depends what your preference is really.
@@BrowneysGarage There are a few sellers but all the same price. Guess I'll see how it looks first, definitely don't want to have to pull everything apart just to get to it, although my seat base needs replacing, so it's inevitable...
Can you please help me??? I have a ba falcon all of a sudden I’ve got no back lights on my heater controls and gear selector please
Haven't dealt with it sorry so I'd just be searching online sorry. Checked the fuses?
Don't take the seat out, just slide it all the way forward and the bolt at the back of the console is easy to get at and there is no need to take hand brake out of the way .
The handbrake actually hooks into the centre console, although I have taken the console out before whilst leaving it in-situ.
I see the video is a year old. How did you go with the chrome? I've got an '03 Magna with a chrome gear selector surround like that, also wrinkled, and when the sun catches it, it blinds me! Happened several times when I bought the car. Then I put a 'cravat' on it,( in reality a tea towel) to stop the reflection- !!! 😂😂😂. Might have to upgrade to a paint job.
Chrome surround is still going strong and looking good, though the car is normally garaged so hasn't had the hardest time.
I have had a few instances of the blinding as you say! Really hasn't been too bad overall though so I'm happy with it so far. Well done on classing up the tea towel though, I'd run with it! 😂
Browney , In this Vid I noticed in one variant you had the chrome gear knob to match the chrome panel, How do you remove the screw that holds the plastic plate to the gear knob? I broke one thinking it was just clipped on. :(
Hey Rob, bugger but I’d be lying if I said I’d never done similar!
To replace the shifter plate carefully pry at the top of the shifter button, slightly down and out to remove the button. Then there’s a Phillips head in behind here from memory holding the plate on.
Good luck and thanks for watching mate.
@@BrowneysGarage Thanks for the fast response mate & the how to. Waiting with anticipation for the next vid. Cheers
I have done this but now When up I use my sports shift it only let's me shift up and not down would u know what it could be ?
@Hayden Reynolds Sorry mate not too sure on that one.
That sucks dude. Hope you can sort it out.
Hi Browney great video thank you. Have got to the point of removing drivers seat to start to get to bush connecting gear selector which has come adrift. A bit nervous of electric seat with airbag so any advice or precautions would be appreciated. Guess disconnecting battery is first move? Is there anything else before taking out seat connections. Thanks again.
Hi Phil, thanks mate.
Probably asking the wrong guy, I am a hack who often operates on a ‘safety third’ basis in the garage! But yes battery disconnect, not sure of any further precautions beyond this - would hope they’re a pretty well fail proof device and not be prone to just ‘going off’.
@@BrowneysGarage Hi Browney thanks for reply and have got seat out safely. I am just reassembling but can not get the handbrake unit to line up with the holes it seems too hard to pull forward to exactly where it needs to be. Did you have any problems? Any suggestions appreciated. Thanks Phil
@Phil Harris I didn't have any dramas and I may be delusional from lack of sleep but all I can think of - is the handbrake still 'on' and putting tension on the cables? May be really dumb but it's all I can think of right now sorry.
How's your roof lining going?
Still going strong, not sure if I mentioned it in the video but I recovered it myself about 2-3 years ago
Nothing a few staples can't fix. Thats what I did to my 2009 xr6😂
I got the chrome plate and gear shifter cap but I can’t seem to workout how to replace the shifter cover.
If you could let me know would be great 👍
Has been asked a few times in other comments but here's how: Carefully pry at the top of the shifter button, slightly down and out. Then there’s a Phillips head from memory holding the plate on.
Good luck and thanks for watching mate.
Can’t seem to find the stick on plate on eBay
@wayne casey Hey mate, here’s a link - ebay.to/3j4ywqF
My BF XT doesn't have the screw visible on the Shifter knob. Do I have to take off the panel covering it?
To replace the shifter plate carefully pry at the top of the shifter button, slightly down and out to remove the button. Then there’s a Phillips head screw hiding in behind here holding the plate on.
Good luck and thanks for watching mate.
@@BrowneysGarage Thanks for the help. Your videos are great to watch
mate, cant believe you had to dis-assemble half the interior just for the that.
Imagine doing it just for the gear selector globe!
You don’t need to at all haha have done this 5-6 times never touched handbrake or seat 😂
Lol or you could cut the black surroundings thats stopping it from coming out it doesnt have to be bolted in its already got weird clips that hold it in
Definitely could and sounds tempting but I hate weird vibrations and noises in cars where I can avoid it way too much, wasn't worth the risk. Thanks for watching 👍
Definitely no noise out of mine since the tab screws or whatever hold it it pretty firmly
Honestly this is why I try to prevent them - I'm useless at fixing them once they start. Unless you can find something loose then perhaps your solution will work but I don't think I'd want to be spraying those just for a rattle, could make a hell of a mess.
I think I'll just use wrap ? Maybe fake carbon wrap as I can install it in the car without removing anything
Did you even vacuum?
Can’t remember but maybe not... what are you my mum? 🤣
@@BrowneysGarage can't remember, maybe not 😂
Those quadrants are no longer available from Ford Browny, obsolete mate.
i cant find the shifter chrome insert can you post a link please
Links are in the description but here they are again for you:
Chrome surround: ebay.to/3j4ywqF
Chrome gear top: ebay.to/31ZEP5N
how the hell do i install my gear knob after everything i’ve done it just doesn’t wanna work 😂
"Really Ford!!!"
They can't hear you. Their engineers are waiting down at Centrelink :-(
Aww, that's cold man! 🤣
@@BrowneysGarage As much as I hate it, it is. I used to work in the 4 speed gearbox factory in Albury churning out the boxes for Ford. It was a great job, but we priced ourselves out of the market and failed to come up with a 6 Speed offering in enough time.
@MistahHeffo Damn sorry mate that’s a shame, at least those 4 speeds had a nice long life 👍. Very cool
Dude you don’t need to take the console out 😂
That globe is so easy to replace haha 5 minutes 💁🏽♂️
How?
I didn't even have to remove it all
I liked your vid mate but too much work for me:)
Thanks mate!
That's fair, it is a lot for something so small but at least it's all simple stuff.
Enjoy your BF!
Why are you taking console out?
All i see is you saying you can do it without the console out and then not replying to anyone that asks how
Lucky you didnt have to remove the common sense sensor sorry ford left it out
Least yiu didnt have to pull the engine out browny
I’ve just dropped a small screw in my selector while changing my icc it was the fucking last little thing I had to screw and now it’s a done job with a screw loose in the fucking price of shit I swear when I pull this dog box apart I’m selling the shot box ford and will never buy another one good motor shit car simple math so if anyone wants to buy a 99k on the clock shit box ghia it’s all yours
@Billy Olsen Oh man have I been there, not exactly that but similar 🤣. Best of luck with the car/soon to be bonfire 👍
Browney's Garage nah I’ve come to far now to burn it but I will sell it no insurance
what in the actuall fxxxk ford
@Tom 🤷♂️
i really hate this design and plastic rubbish , im thinking of a diy stainless or galv console. im sure there are aftermarket shifters too, the cable ends are not my favourite either not a quick fix patented little gromets that all went where it belongs in the bin. miss the days when things were built much more robust and much easier to repair without having to buy parts because theyre cheaply made to cut costs maximise profit and speed up assembly time at the factory just like the plastic pedal boxes what an abomination.. my next car will be a commercial ute something robust.
How to remove manual one?